@@getyomoneyup I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS ITS LIMIT. I GOT GREEDY AND TURNED THE BOOST UP TO 15LBS AND KILLED THE STOCK VALVE SPRINGS. I SHOULD'VE TOOK IT LIGHT AND BUMPED IT UP TO 13.5-14LBS OF BOOST 1ST. I PROBABLY WOULD'VE HEARD THE SPRINGS START TO STRESS IF I DID. I ALSO HAD AN MDS DELETE, 6.1 CAM, AND 6.4 LIFTERS.(THE STOCK 6.4 LIFTERS ARE THE EXACT SAME ONES THAT ARE IN THE HELLCAT. DON'T OVER PAY JUST BECAUSE A SELLER IS SELLING THEM AS SOMETHING SPECIAL.)
@@patrickstrauss9800 that’s only if you’re going for high numbers you can literally slap a supercharger on an run low boost (under 6psi) safely and be putting down about 500 whp
Man you have more diverse, overall high performance knowledge than any other TH-camr that I've seen. I love how practical and funny your videos are. You're informative and entertaining which is the best combo for any content creator.
5.7 in general is a good motor. The crappy part about them is they come neutered from the factory. Simple Ported Intake Manifold, Headers and Exhaust, Drop in filter, and a tune and you got a nice setup. If you wanna get frisky, drop in a 3.09 gear with a tire and you straight
Get a 6.1. The 5.7 is a balance between power and economy. None of the internal parts are performance oriented, so you gotta swap EVERYTHING out to make power. Heads, cam, headers, intake, etc. It's all gotta be upgraded for airflow. The 6.1 was designed to kick ass. Everything in that motor was made for airflow. The heads, cam, and intake manifold are excellent out of the box. It even comes with stock shorty headers. Mine is a 100% stock motor with a blower on it. It makes 5.5psi and 507whp. I gained over 150whp from less than 6 pounds of boost. A stock 5.7 will never see those gains from 5 pounds of boost. You'd be lucky to get 100hp from that cuz the airflow is so bad in the motor.
@@just_a5.7 i'm not heavily built. I have a stock motor and a blower thats not even running 6psi right now. Of course i'd get walked by a fully built 5.7. That kind of proves my point actually. That you need to build the shit out of a 5.7 to match a 6.1 with a blower lol.
@@jacobdyer2291the older 5.7s takeoff is what kill the bigger hemis and the only reason i know is because i was undefeated racing those on mine. My hardest race was an old ass impala donk wit a 383 stroker turboed and supercharged. That bih jumped in the air like vin diesel car did on the movie and i barely beat it too 😂😂😂
I'm getting to revere the knowledge and research that you put in the issues that you discuss on your channel about different cars and motor set up. I would love to see you do a few shorts about what you would do with the transmission set ups that you would like to run in your ride to get the solid , ground pounding, really reliable, heavy duty daily driver tranny that you would put behind your own say Challenger 08 R/T with the modification that you so well describe in this short video. Thanks again for your time and effort with your shorts that are enjoyable and informative at the same time. Great evening to you and your family, Guru!
Thank you for speaking some serious truths! Too many people boring out their blocks, with thin cylinder walls, thin head gasket surfaces, long strokers putting a whole lot of side load on the cylinder walls, and with short stroker pistons! SMH! For boost, you need stout, And the 5.7 hemi is stouter than any other.
@@gullahgeechee2699 I saw that video of the tree crash, that wasn't a modified 5.7 hemi.( It didn't have the power !). When I say potential, I'm talking about modified )
Yup Lotta potential, but I've seen a few bone stock early 5.7 hemi drop a valve seat at the first whiff of slightly overheating. If you are gonna build one, ping the valve seats
I just got my eagle heads, exhaust manifolds from a 6.1. hell cat push rods, springs, and lifters, 90mm throttle body and I'm gonna true dual my exhaust. And your vid pops up 😭🤣🤣. I always listen and fallow . Great vid
Good price for that 300C - I sold my 06 last year with almost 190k for $2,800 with a little bit of body damage so yours sounds like it was a way better deal lol.
@@Stressless2023These cars aren’t even worth 4k, got my 300c 06 for 4600 only 100k miles. The owners never changed the transmission fluid and now I gotta sell it 😂😂
Thank you cuz you really can turn an R/T into a Hellcat. People hate on the 345s but don’t know you can easily tune them to be better than Scat Packs and I plan on keeping my R/T and mod it over time to make Hellcat power
The gen 3 hemi is from 03- to the present. All the 5.7/6.1/6.4/6.2 are all based off the gen 3 platform. The most slept on of them all is the 6.1. It’s a great motor from the start, and has a lot of potential. Plus, none of the lifter issues/ valve seat issues like the 5.7. The 5.7 is definitely the underdog of them all, but the most slept on is the 6.1.
The 5.7 is the benchmark, but that engine is built for longevity, reliability, moderate performance, but a hell of a highway cruiser in which this engine is better suited for cause HEMIs hate city driving.
I’ve always had this idea in my head. Mildly tuned 5.7 with the new Trx drive train would be a recipe for fun since ur not gonna pass the 400 hp mark your axles, transfer case and transmission aré overbuilt and would never be push to the limit 4wd donuts 🍩 would look amazing 🤩
Well my brother, I had a 2006 R/T dodge magnum. I kept the oil changes up to date and kept all the maintenance together. I blown 2 motors in a 3 year span. Blown head gasket and the other time a blown heater coil I believe. So off experience, The car didn’t like me! But keep doing good work bro, giving good info and positive energy!✊🏾
I have the same car. Overheated on me twice now for external reasons. 1st time fans quit, 2nd time the rad had a leak. After both of those it still has no head gasket issues and I drive it everyday. 180+k on it.
@@younkinjames8571 I've had my 2014 Dodge Charger RT off a salvage auction at 40k miles I just hit 80k miles without a single issue I'm pretty sure she's gonna hit 150k no problem
I’m subbing to you. FINALLY someone else with a brain is saying the same shit I tell any mf that’ll listen. Yes, the 6.4 is better STOCK for stock. BUT, you have to do hella shit to it to make it ridiculously faster. The 5.7’s have been around for ages now, they’re just choked out coming off the assembly lines. Because they’ve been around so long they have better mod support. There’s TH-camrs with R/T’s that have made some CRAZY power with probably half the mods than what a 6.4 would need to make the same insane #’s! Just my 2 cents…
@@jmhellison I have a 2018 Charger R/T. I wanted the extra 2 doors. It totally depends on what your preference is. The ChalIenger is like 300 lbs lighter though. I just wanted a badass daily V8 that I will eventually put work into mod wise. I have a 6.4 intake manifold that I still have to port out that I eventually want to swap the 5.7 intake for. Got a shopping list and I’m gathering parts as time goes by a bit to do most of the work myself.
You don’t have to do a tremendous amount of things to a 6.4. Literally buy the drop in forged piston and rods, a super charger, a more aggressive cam is optional the stock one is fine and you’re good to go. That should be good enough to get you in the ballpark of 700 whp safely before you have to do trans work. Then you can port the heads and add even more air with different air boxes and yeah 1000 hp isn’t hard to obtain
Good stuff. So much more available for the 5.7s. You can beef up the internals of the short block eagle 5.7s and push it even more also. I'll be there real soon.
I find the 5.7 is a lot alike gms vortecs. Oil pump on the front, pushrod engine everything real easy to access. Both engines are real similar that’s what I like about the hemi and the vortecs.
350s as a WHOLE are very iconic, and for good reason. The fact that it's a HEMI makes it even better; the aged, tried and true powerhouse, is this American staple 🔥.
@@demarcusbody9437 and STILL has a lot of potential better not to boost any gas engine if you want longevity and low cost of ownership. Love to keep my 2012 RAM 1500 HEMI 5.7 with near 140,000 and rather do tune up, upgrade air cleaner filter and free flow exhaust with 5 inch tips for increase performance, mpgs, towing power, highway cruising, and again longevity.
So far my build on my 300c . 3.09 LSD .220/330 hrt stage 3 cam kit . Ported eagle heads . 397 stroker kit . Hellcat injectors . Long tube headers . True dual exhaust with magnaflow performance mufflers without resonators . Mmx ported hellcat throttle body . Mmx hellcat supercharger adapter kit . Hellcat supercharger . 180 t stat . Diablo sport 93 octane/ custom tune TBH I'm just trying to be a sleeper idc if I can't outrun a cat I just want to shock people outside of Mopar because I know a lot of Chevy guys think that the 300s don't have v8s so I wanna have that sleeper status ....... even though my cam and exhaust might give it away lol😂
he speaks the truth. I have a 2021 chrysler 300s with a 5.7, i slapped a 3.0L whipple on it with a mild tune for daily driving and all stock internals and exhaust (sleeper quiet) . It dynos at 610hp crank, 515rwhp with only 7lb of boost. Once the warranty is up i am swapping internals and opening it up.
Just picked up my 2022 Dodge Charger RT It comes with super track pack not sure if it makes a difference .I’m new to the HEMI life , been having a mopar car as I got my 2015 Chrysler 300 . Nice video
When I was a kid I convinced my midlife crisis grandad to buy a 2005 ruby red magnum rt (but not the r/t two different trims). He put throttle body spacers, borla cat backs, and a cold air intake and a chip and for 2005 it was damn near Corvette quick
Agreed. They are the most cost affective to modify if you so choose. They also put out very good horsepower for the price they go for. In the 2500/3500 trucks specifically, I love the 5.7 hemi because it doesn’t have MDS, so it’s always a straight V8. As where the 6.4 hemi in the trucks have mds.
@@michaellarrick8881 “I love the 5.7 hemi because it doesn’t have mds so it’s always a straight v8” that statement implies you’re talking about 5.7 hemis as a whole not one specific model. But just sharing knowledge my friend it’s nothing major to debate about
The problem is this stuff isn’t cheap. Depending on what power you’re looking for you’re better off buying a scat or cat. The 5.7 is just for people who enjoy custom builds ❤
Did you not watch the whole video? Basically he's saying there's really no point in buying a scatpack because the engine is weak and will break. You will spend even more money on the 6.4 to get it strong enough to be boosted safely. Either go with a hellcat engine, or go with the 5.7 hemi. Leave the scatpack engine alone.
the scat pack 392 was made to be a boost off of the original 5.7 380 HP product. It (392) does not do well with higher RPM (past 6200) applications. The best option that I saw was a 6.1L off of a early Jeep Grand Cherokee (2008-2010) SRT that had simply a blower and injectors on it - made 600/600 (HP/TQ) and couldn't keep transfer cases and transmissions since the original 5 speed trans they had on those was weak..... As some of the earlier commenters also said - the early hemi (before MDS) was basically crippled - it could make 500 HP stock with the correct programming however to make it more reliable and streetable they "detuned" it to the 350 levels that you saw in stock form. Also isn't it interesting that it only had a compression ratio of 9.6:1 stock (ASKING FOR BOOST)......
I have a 2019 charger RT I thought about doing a v10 viper swap but idk. If I decide to keep the 5.7 I'm definitely going with a whipple supercharger & alot of hellcat parts 🤣 E85 & Slicks on the back. Tbh.. but rn I'm saving & in the middle of doing my awd k24 swap in my 2001 saturn sc2
U right on point my guy... ppl are sleeping on these 5.7 Hemis.... I own 2 of them ..a 2004 Hemi Ram 1500 & a 2014 Challenger R/T .. I love both of 'em
The ring lands on 6.4’s are to tight; the extra heat from boost will cause them to overheat, and once they overheat they will pop rings & pistons. That awesome that he mentioned Richard Holdener & MMX. MMX built my 394Ci 6.4l stroker in my truck💪🏻. Byron at MMX is the man!
I have a 5.7 RT just brought it, its a 2017 only had 26,000 miles on it. I love it. The problem with these dodge’s is everybody wants to buy one and everybody wants to go fast but these dudes can barely drive a Ford. They say with great power comes great responsibility, with a Dodge comes great responsibility, that’s why these hellcats and scat packs and demons you see on the back of a trailer heading to the shop because they all smashed up. all I need to do is just get in front of a bunch of slow knuckleheads. I ain’t trying to race Nobody, not trying to smash my car and I’m not trying to get my insurance rate to go through the roof or my license taken.
It just has a lower compression ratio stock.... I love how that 5.7 hemi was in heavy duty trucks. Day one was a monster... Thinking about the same power as an l q9
I been tryna tell people this ages but no one listens. Dodge restricted the 5.7l and squeezed the 6.4l for all it's got. In reality it's 345 vs 392, the gap is not that big it's .7l. That's like comparing a honda b18 and a k24 The stock hp gap is not that big and those are dohc engines.
Or to make it cheaper/easier, go ahead and get a 5.7 out of an 09-current hemi since they already have eagle heads. Trust me you can find them like candy.
@@erikbergstrom258 that’s easily fixed besides it’d take over 500 hp and some serious driving to break either one. Then supercharge or turbocharge and your good to go
Couldn’t be happier with my 2007 Daytona charger with the 5.7, I’ve only done cams and heads and at 325,000 miles on it it’s still smooth and clean. It’s been babied tho
There is a 6.1 here in my town at the local junkyard for $400. It’s in a wrecked SRT Magnum. I’m thinking about buying it my Magnum has the 5.7 in it. The 6.1 would be a nice upgrade huh?
@@mr84ttop34 You can get stroker kits for 6.1s up to 426. Someone else said it, the 6.1 is obsolete, but it's also horribly slept on. You still want to check cams and lifters, but that engine was nasty when it came out.
From the standpoint that you can buy a 5.7 for less than a 6.4 and throw a supercharger onto it and have more HP than a 6.4 for less money, yeah, its better. If you want to go NA and try to match the 6.4 in power, not so much. Unfortunately the 5.7 doesn't handle boost as well as others though. So if you want to go for 4-didgit HP numbers, you're going to have to build the shit out of your engine to get there without it blowing up.
Bro your like a car doctor. If I had extra bread I'd hire you just to get what I need. I know cars but damn I didn't know about these hemis like that. Most def need u to come up with a spread sheet for 2 cars I'm looking Into purchasing. Your the shit bro keep these videos coming
The problem is you have to disassemble the block and put new piston rings. That’s the flaw in the early hemis. At this point there’s no reason for me to tear apart the block unless it takes a dump on me. So I’m okay with my stock 345HP.
These 5.7 hemi engines are notorious for lifters seizing up due to oil starvation. Ultimately causing the camshaft lobes to have grooves in them. The reason for oil starvation is due to poor engineering by Dodge/Fiat. The camshaft sits to high inside the engine for oil to reach, especially during idle.
You nailed it. Mostly caused by engine idle. I've had a 2012 Ram HEMI with over 107,000 miles and it didn't tick. My 2017 Sport with 32,000 and over 150 idle hours ticks every time on start
Great info. I wanna find an old police intereptor Charger and slap a supercharger on it, but I'm tempted to do my 5.7 Hemi 4x4, now, with the hellcat upgrade.
I had a 5.7 hemi for just under 3 years, at about 35000 miles one of the pistons in the cylinders that turn off during highway driving seized up and blew up the cylinder. Ram said they would honor the warranty and fix it free of charge. Long story short I now have a Ram with the 3.6 Pentastar V6 and I've had it now for about 6 years and I haven't had one single problem with it. I must've got one the bad batch Hemis made in Mexico.
I’d take my 6.4 any day , I loved my 5.7 but it just wasn’t there if you want to dump 10k+ into the 5.7 just to make it “ as fast a 6.4 “ no point in my opinion I’ve seen plenty of 6.4 run just fine with boost
LMFAO 😅 won't take 10k to make it what a 6.4 is. If you put 7k into a 6.4 and 7 into a 5.7 you have a 5.7 that will be equal if not better and more reliable lmfao 😅 you missed the point of your weak drivetrain.
Not going to lie though. I really like that. 4.7 l power tech engine kind of slept on imagine they just made it bigger instead of making a 5.7 hemi and we had a single overhead cam I've seen those 4.7 l with lots of mileage. My friend has one with 310,000 mi in a Dakota... He is a mechanic and it also was on its second transmission
@@leopapio683 da hell did you do to get the T case to blow ?? 😬 im almost to 200k and it hasnt been stock for 135k. Granted its starting to act out but its still takin 472 TQ, barely though. I beat the shit outta this poor whale 🤣
This is good information to know and I've always wanted older models as project cars because it's easier to hook them up versus the newer beefed up engines that they have now in a lot of models cars.
built a awd police charger with a 5.7 and xs turbo made 780 awhp. Sold it and now building an 02 tahoe with a 6.0 turbo 4x4 leveled on 35s. Gonna be wild. hemi or ls both reliable with some modifications.
What’s up with the 6.1 Hemi? Would that be easier to build power compared to the 5.7? I feel like the 6.1 would see better power increases on low boost.
The 6.1 is an absolute monster when treated right!!!!!! I had a stroked 5.7 that started knocking reeeaaallyyy bad so I’m currently now looking for a 6.1 to throw in there with a 270 comp cam, longtube kooks headers, throttle body spacer, tune & some good ol 305s, possibly 315s in the rear!!!
@@hunterterrenceth The Magnum? I know there're some things you can do with them like upgrading the heads and probably even boost but there's not going to be as much support out there. Either way, it would be a nice upgrade from the 3.9 in my '88. I'd like to keep the 5 speed but I'll probably need a beefier one.
You save me alot of time an money with this message I brought a V6 2011 challenger just to play with as a stree car I was goin to get hellcat motor put in it an 😂 sneak on someone at the light but Im going to swap it for a 5.7 now
I've been a fan of the 5.7 Hemis because the potential these motors have. 6.4 block is the same as the 5.7 block. The cylinder walls on a 5.7 are thick to produce a lot of power and especially if you want to forge the bottom end for stupid power. The 6.4 is alright if your keeping it N/A and just doing a step up cam upgrade with bolt ons but not good enough for boost. I'm curious though.. What does everyone think about the 6.1 Hemi? I thought there's good potential with the 6.1 Hemi too.
Bro speaking facts my 2020 Laramie night edition with the 5.7 hemi and let me tell you I got my shit pushing 650 hp (at the wheels) with some turbos I’ve done put 90k miles on it zero problems I ain’t even got a transmission slip or anything love this truck if you get a ram please do yourself a favor and get the hemi you won’t be let down I promise
YOU AIN'T NEVER LIED. I RAN 12 LBS OF BOOST ON STOCK 5.7 INTERNALS, WITH GAPPED PUSTON RINGS, AND HELL CAT PUSH RODS. SALUTE
Sheesh
How reliable was this tho?
@@getyomoneyup I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS ITS LIMIT. I GOT GREEDY AND TURNED THE BOOST UP TO 15LBS AND KILLED THE STOCK VALVE SPRINGS. I SHOULD'VE TOOK IT LIGHT AND BUMPED IT UP TO 13.5-14LBS OF BOOST 1ST. I PROBABLY WOULD'VE HEARD THE SPRINGS START TO STRESS IF I DID. I ALSO HAD AN MDS DELETE, 6.1 CAM, AND 6.4 LIFTERS.(THE STOCK 6.4 LIFTERS ARE THE EXACT SAME ONES THAT ARE IN THE HELLCAT. DON'T OVER PAY JUST BECAUSE A SELLER IS SELLING THEM AS SOMETHING SPECIAL.)
Is it a ok idea to use boost with a mostly stock car? I got a torque converter and a slp intake in a 98 z28
@@joebuddensbeard6615 It's probs fine
5.7’s are for people who wanna build a fast car
6.4’s are for people who wanna buy a fast car
We’ll said👌
I have both
5.7 is already fast it's self a 6.4 only pushes 80mlre HP then a RT anyways so it's not that hard to make a RT just as fast or faster
@@patrickstrauss9800 that’s only if you’re going for high numbers you can literally slap a supercharger on an run low boost (under 6psi) safely and be putting down about 500 whp
@@kingmusic8774 that’s on paper wheel power it’s almost 100 hp difference which is a big difference
Man you have more diverse, overall high performance knowledge than any other TH-camr that I've seen. I love how practical and funny your videos are. You're informative and entertaining which is the best combo for any content creator.
You gotta watch some other channels then. A lot of really experienced guys on here that forgot more than this guy knows.
@@tl5108there’s always a cracker in the comments hating it never fails 😂
Get a room
@@fartdonkey8290he's not wrong
My 2016 cammed Ram RT hurts alot of feelings. Great video
Can u drop specs
5.7 in general is a good motor. The crappy part about them is they come neutered from the factory. Simple Ported Intake Manifold, Headers and Exhaust, Drop in filter, and a tune and you got a nice setup. If you wanna get frisky, drop in a 3.09 gear with a tire and you straight
Get a 6.1.
The 5.7 is a balance between power and economy. None of the internal parts are performance oriented, so you gotta swap EVERYTHING out to make power. Heads, cam, headers, intake, etc. It's all gotta be upgraded for airflow.
The 6.1 was designed to kick ass. Everything in that motor was made for airflow. The heads, cam, and intake manifold are excellent out of the box. It even comes with stock shorty headers. Mine is a 100% stock motor with a blower on it. It makes 5.5psi and 507whp. I gained over 150whp from less than 6 pounds of boost.
A stock 5.7 will never see those gains from 5 pounds of boost. You'd be lucky to get 100hp from that cuz the airflow is so bad in the motor.
@@SRTBOAT what type tune you would recommend for 6.1
@@yrntmoney3745 a 93 tune if you're N/A. E85 if you're boosted. My car made 570whp on e85, 60+hp increase. The 6.1 loves corn.
@@SRTBOAT u should race modern red HEMI lol your gonna get your ass kicked with all due respect brother
@@just_a5.7 i'm not heavily built. I have a stock motor and a blower thats not even running 6psi right now. Of course i'd get walked by a fully built 5.7. That kind of proves my point actually. That you need to build the shit out of a 5.7 to match a 6.1 with a blower lol.
The infamous black charger that outruns the Arkansas state police is a built up 5.7.
Oh really? Always thought it was a hellcat
@@jacobdyer2291the older 5.7s takeoff is what kill the bigger hemis and the only reason i know is because i was undefeated racing those on mine. My hardest race was an old ass impala donk wit a 383 stroker turboed and supercharged. That bih jumped in the air like vin diesel car did on the movie and i barely beat it too 😂😂😂
My Stroker 5.7 is definitely a fun build. The power is literally nuts. Now to get ported heads and free up more airflow
Love my 5.7 hemi kept it stock.kept up the maintenance.she runs amazing.
You have a Chrysler 300$
I'm getting to revere the knowledge and research that you put in the issues that you discuss on your channel about different cars and motor set up. I would love to see you do a few shorts about what you would do with the transmission set ups that you would like to run in your ride to get the solid , ground pounding, really reliable, heavy duty daily driver tranny that you would put behind your own say Challenger 08 R/T with the modification that you so well describe in this short video. Thanks again for your time and effort with your shorts that are enjoyable and informative at the same time. Great evening to you and your family, Guru!
Thank you for speaking some serious truths! Too many people boring out their blocks, with thin cylinder walls, thin head gasket surfaces, long strokers putting a whole lot of side load on the cylinder walls, and with short stroker pistons! SMH! For boost, you need stout, And the 5.7 hemi is stouter than any other.
I needed this info fam ! I’m building a 5.7L 300C and kinda been on the fence cause I’m hearing 6.4 this and 6.4 that . I appreciate ya !
I believe the blacked out charger in Arkansas the police can't catch l, is a modified 5.7. they have scary potential.
@@lasvegasotis6780I saw that video🤣 he smoked him and the cops chased a scat pack and made him wrecked into a tree
@@gullahgeechee2699 I saw that video of the tree crash, that wasn't a modified 5.7 hemi.( It didn't have the power !). When I say potential, I'm talking about modified )
Yup Lotta potential, but I've seen a few bone stock early 5.7 hemi drop a valve seat at the first whiff of slightly overheating.
If you are gonna build one, ping the valve seats
I just got my eagle heads, exhaust manifolds from a 6.1. hell cat push rods, springs, and lifters, 90mm throttle body and I'm gonna true dual my exhaust. And your vid pops up 😭🤣🤣. I always listen and fallow . Great vid
I just got a 07 300c with 97k miles for 3600 a few months ago. Definitely will keep this in mind. Always felt like it was being held back.
Good deal!! I just grabbed a 2010 Jeep Patriot beater with 107k miles for 2200 cash!!!
Good price for that 300C - I sold my 06 last year with almost 190k for $2,800 with a little bit of body damage so yours sounds like it was a way better deal lol.
@@Stressless2023These cars aren’t even worth 4k, got my 300c 06 for 4600 only 100k miles. The owners never changed the transmission fluid and now I gotta sell it 😂😂
Thank you cuz you really can turn an R/T into a Hellcat. People hate on the 345s but don’t know you can easily tune them to be better than Scat Packs and I plan on keeping my R/T and mod it over time to make Hellcat power
People really only hate on the SXTs
@@kid5042 yea...but that's valid though🤷♂️😂😂
The gen 3 hemi is from 03- to the present. All the 5.7/6.1/6.4/6.2 are all based off the gen 3 platform. The most slept on of them all is the 6.1. It’s a great motor from the start, and has a lot of potential. Plus, none of the lifter issues/ valve seat issues like the 5.7. The 5.7 is definitely the underdog of them all, but the most slept on is the 6.1.
The 5.7 and 6.4 are the same platform not the 6.1
The 5.7 is the benchmark, but that engine is built for longevity, reliability, moderate performance, but a hell of a highway cruiser in which this engine is better suited for cause HEMIs hate city driving.
@@brandedmcgowan9414 I do not want to know the gas mileage i am doing with my 5.7.
I just know its drinking like an Irish...
@@michaelgimenez4032 same, but I'm not parting ways from it 😁
@@elijahjames9412all these hemis are based off of the 5.7, the 6.1 and 6.4 are just bored out 5.7 blocks
Your info is priceless to the novice, probably to those who’ve been racing for years as well! 💪🏾✊🏾👍🏾
You are absolutely correct my man! If you’re looking for a project car on a budget the 5.7 can hold it down! It’s a great motor!
I’ve always had this idea in my head.
Mildly tuned 5.7 with the new Trx drive train would be a recipe for fun since ur not gonna pass the 400 hp mark your axles, transfer case and transmission aré overbuilt and would never be push to the limit 4wd donuts 🍩 would look amazing 🤩
Man you the reason why I have a 2008 Cadillac Escalade with 1150hp, much love ❤
You make a good point about the 5.7 hemi. A lot of untapped potential there. The 6.4 is what it is.
You can bore a 392 to a 454 that's 7.44l
Ahh...7.4 liters. I like the way you think.
Well my brother, I had a 2006 R/T dodge magnum. I kept the oil changes up to date and kept all the maintenance together. I blown 2 motors in a 3 year span. Blown head gasket and the other time a blown heater coil I believe. So off experience, The car didn’t like me! But keep doing good work bro, giving good info and positive energy!✊🏾
I seen these engines get 250k+ miles without an issue.
Your right That car didn’t like you.
I have similar story about the g body Buick Regal
@@trouble603 “My Man!” Denzel Washington voice!
I have the same car. Overheated on me twice now for external reasons. 1st time fans quit, 2nd time the rad had a leak. After both of those it still has no head gasket issues and I drive it everyday. 180+k on it.
@@younkinjames8571 I feel your pain bro!
@@younkinjames8571 I've had my 2014 Dodge Charger RT off a salvage auction at 40k miles I just hit 80k miles without a single issue I'm pretty sure she's gonna hit 150k no problem
Love seeing the 5.7's getting some love.
This is true. I had a 2013 5.7 R/T AWD. It's still my profile pic. Was a beast
R/T AWD is nasty bro 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you. I’ve been wanting to know what I could do with my 5.7 without doing an engine swap.
I’m subbing to you. FINALLY someone else with a brain is saying the same shit I tell any mf that’ll listen. Yes, the 6.4 is better STOCK for stock. BUT, you have to do hella shit to it to make it ridiculously faster. The 5.7’s have been around for ages now, they’re just choked out coming off the assembly lines. Because they’ve been around so long they have better mod support. There’s TH-camrs with R/T’s that have made some CRAZY power with probably half the mods than what a 6.4 would need to make the same insane #’s! Just my 2 cents…
Which 5.7 should you get if you want the Charger or Challenger? Is there a specific year? Because I want a face lifted version
@@jmhellison I have a 2018 Charger R/T. I wanted the extra 2 doors. It totally depends on what your preference is. The ChalIenger is like 300 lbs lighter though. I just wanted a badass daily V8 that I will eventually put work into mod wise. I have a 6.4 intake manifold that I still have to port out that I eventually want to swap the 5.7 intake for. Got a shopping list and I’m gathering parts as time goes by a bit to do most of the work myself.
You don’t have to do a tremendous amount of things to a 6.4. Literally buy the drop in forged piston and rods, a super charger, a more aggressive cam is optional the stock one is fine and you’re good to go. That should be good enough to get you in the ballpark of 700 whp safely before you have to do trans work. Then you can port the heads and add even more air with different air boxes and yeah 1000 hp isn’t hard to obtain
@@albanybestdrumline wouldn’t you need to lower the compression before adding the blower?
I agree. So much untapped potential. Also, forged internals would give you insurance for reliable boost applications.
I just gotta say thank you. Everybody scoffs at the 5.7 but it's not always about displacement. Sometimes it's about what survived the most boost.
Good stuff. So much more available for the 5.7s. You can beef up the internals of the short block eagle 5.7s and push it even more also. I'll be there real soon.
I find the 5.7 is a lot alike gms vortecs. Oil pump on the front, pushrod engine everything real easy to access. Both engines are real similar that’s what I like about the hemi and the vortecs.
350s as a WHOLE are very iconic, and for good reason. The fact that it's a HEMI makes it even better; the aged, tried and true powerhouse, is this American staple 🔥.
350's where'd GM's 5.7l come from?
That’s not a 350 it’s a 345 cubic inch man I tell u none car people
@@demarcusbody9437 and STILL has a lot of potential better not to boost any gas engine if you want longevity and low cost of ownership. Love to keep my 2012 RAM 1500 HEMI 5.7 with near 140,000 and rather do tune up, upgrade air cleaner filter and free flow exhaust with 5 inch tips for increase performance, mpgs, towing power, highway cruising, and again longevity.
@@brandedmcgowan9414 I have a 5.7 liter Chevy and I do the same thing for my truck like you do to yours..maintenance is the key.
@@brandedmcgowan9414 wrong
I’m a major 6.1 fan myself,had a 2500 ram with that motor and either hauling a trailer or ass,it did both equally well with no complaints
Thank you for using your voice and spreading this knowledge to the masses, I always said the 5.7 was superior lol
This stuff is pretty informational makes more sense then spending almost one hundred k on a car that won’t last long either way, props to you man.
I’m getting a 2020 grand Cherokee with the 5.7 hemi and man can’t wait to build it up
That’s crazy I was dead about to ask you to speak on the 5.7
I’m in the process of building my 5.7
So far my build on my 300c
. 3.09 LSD
.220/330 hrt stage 3 cam kit
. Ported eagle heads
. 397 stroker kit
. Hellcat injectors
. Long tube headers
. True dual exhaust with magnaflow performance mufflers without resonators
. Mmx ported hellcat throttle body
. Mmx hellcat supercharger adapter kit
. Hellcat supercharger
. 180 t stat
. Diablo sport 93 octane/ custom tune
TBH I'm just trying to be a sleeper idc if I can't outrun a cat I just want to shock people outside of Mopar because I know a lot of Chevy guys think that the 300s don't have v8s so I wanna have that sleeper status ....... even though my cam and exhaust might give it away lol😂
Is it stroker kit on a 392 or 345?
@@cg-pk5oz pre eagle 345 hemi
How much is it pushing ??
@@plutopruittI’d say like 820 to the wheel with everything he said lol
Finally I heard complaints to 5.7 hemi 🤣🤣 everyone since 6.4 came was modifying it and ignoring 5.7
he speaks the truth. I have a 2021 chrysler 300s with a 5.7, i slapped a 3.0L whipple on it with a mild tune for daily driving and all stock internals and exhaust (sleeper quiet) . It dynos at 610hp crank, 515rwhp with only 7lb of boost. Once the warranty is up i am swapping internals and opening it up.
all that money should’ve just bought a hellcat LMAP bruh c’mon
@@Username27288 I like the 300 platform much better and even after the mods it's still cheaper than a new hellcat
Just picked up my 2022 Dodge Charger RT
It comes with super track pack not sure if it makes a difference .I’m new to the HEMI life , been having a mopar car as I got my 2015 Chrysler 300 . Nice video
Awesome I got one as well bro if u need answers to any questions lmk
When I was a kid I convinced my midlife crisis grandad to buy a 2005 ruby red magnum rt (but not the r/t two different trims). He put throttle body spacers, borla cat backs, and a cold air intake and a chip and for 2005 it was damn near Corvette quick
I still like the exhaust notes of my 6.4 over the 5.7, especially at 4k RPM!
I love the body style of the old srt8 chargers, if I had money that would be one of my project cars and this would be a reference video for me lol
Agreed. They are the most cost affective to modify if you so choose. They also put out very good horsepower for the price they go for. In the 2500/3500 trucks specifically, I love the 5.7 hemi because it doesn’t have MDS, so it’s always a straight V8. As where the 6.4 hemi in the trucks have mds.
My 2015 2500 has MDS with the 5.7
05-07 Chrysler 300c has mds
@@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115 no it doesn’t. I promise you. The heavy duty 5.7 hemi didn’t have MDS.
@@Hiluyaseph sweet. My comment says “2500/3500 trucks specifically”… nothing about the Chrysler 300
@@michaellarrick8881 “I love the 5.7 hemi because it doesn’t have mds so it’s always a straight v8” that statement implies you’re talking about 5.7 hemis as a whole not one specific model. But just sharing knowledge my friend it’s nothing major to debate about
I been preaching this since high school everybody thought my 300 wasn't stock. I just let em think behind me in the dust
The 6.1 is the real forgotten goat in the hemi lineup
Yessir!!!!!!!!!
I got a 5.7 in my 2021 Durango … thanks for giving me some confidence against the SRT durangos 😂
The problem is this stuff isn’t cheap. Depending on what power you’re looking for you’re better off buying a scat or cat. The 5.7 is just for people who enjoy custom builds ❤
Did you not watch the whole video? Basically he's saying there's really no point in buying a scatpack because the engine is weak and will break. You will spend even more money on the 6.4 to get it strong enough to be boosted safely. Either go with a hellcat engine, or go with the 5.7 hemi. Leave the scatpack engine alone.
@@Eastsidegeorgiaboy it always struck me as a boring big block gasser truck engine
Yea lemme just go spend 80k on a cat 🤦🏽♂️ building a 5.7 is WAY cheaper
the scat pack 392 was made to be a boost off of the original 5.7 380 HP product. It (392) does not do well with higher RPM (past 6200) applications.
The best option that I saw was a 6.1L off of a early Jeep Grand Cherokee (2008-2010) SRT that had simply a blower and injectors on it - made 600/600 (HP/TQ) and couldn't keep transfer cases and transmissions since the original 5 speed trans they had on those was weak.....
As some of the earlier commenters also said - the early hemi (before MDS) was basically crippled - it could make 500 HP stock with the correct programming however to make it more reliable and streetable they "detuned" it to the 350 levels that you saw in stock form. Also isn't it interesting that it only had a compression ratio of 9.6:1 stock (ASKING FOR BOOST)......
Were early hemis blowing transmissions like nothing ??
I have a 2019 charger RT I thought about doing a v10 viper swap but idk. If I decide to keep the 5.7 I'm definitely going with a whipple supercharger & alot of hellcat parts 🤣 E85 & Slicks on the back. Tbh.. but rn I'm saving & in the middle of doing my awd k24 swap in my 2001 saturn sc2
Love my 5.7 dream of building it up the sound of the 5.7 is unbeaten
You for got about grand Cherokee
U right on point my guy... ppl are sleeping on these 5.7 Hemis.... I own 2 of them ..a 2004 Hemi Ram 1500 & a 2014 Challenger R/T .. I love both of 'em
I used to wonder why people didn't boost the 6.4, or why engines blow up in general. Now I know why lol some power trains can't handle the boost
The ring lands on 6.4’s are to tight; the extra heat from boost will cause them to overheat, and once they overheat they will pop rings & pistons.
That awesome that he mentioned Richard Holdener & MMX.
MMX built my 394Ci 6.4l stroker in my truck💪🏻. Byron at MMX is the man!
Never had a problem with a 6.4. I've had 5
@@lmjames33 have you twin turboed them?
No sir
@@lmjames33 good... don't do it. I've seen what happens up close and personal when they are boosted without doing the internals.
I have a 5.7 RT just brought it, its a 2017 only had 26,000 miles on it. I love it. The problem with these dodge’s is everybody wants to buy one and everybody wants to go fast but these dudes can barely drive a Ford. They say with great power comes great responsibility, with a Dodge comes great responsibility, that’s why these hellcats and scat packs and demons you see on the back of a trailer heading to the shop because they all smashed up. all I need to do is just get in front of a bunch of slow knuckleheads. I ain’t trying to race Nobody, not trying to smash my car and I’m not trying to get my insurance rate to go through the roof or my license taken.
I have a 5.7 base fully forged 392 stroker from MMX sitting in my garage for my 2012 ram 1500. Im gonna throw some big twins on it and send it
It just has a lower compression ratio stock.... I love how that 5.7 hemi was in heavy duty trucks. Day one was a monster... Thinking about the same power as an l q9
I been tryna tell people this ages but no one listens.
Dodge restricted the 5.7l and squeezed the 6.4l for all it's got. In reality it's 345 vs 392, the gap is not that big it's .7l. That's like comparing a honda b18 and a k24
The stock hp gap is not that big and those are dohc engines.
Not sure I got a race tune headers and intake I’m making 565-570 crank 504whp/523 torgue
@@brandonUwanawich954 5.7?
@@Tachyon836 no way lol 6.4
I mess with your content tough anyone watching these videos can tell you got the passion in the subject matter
Or to make it cheaper/easier, go ahead and get a 5.7 out of an 09-current hemi since they already have eagle heads. Trust me you can find them like candy.
if i remember correctly the crank is or rods or something is weaker in the new ones
@@erikbergstrom258 that’s easily fixed besides it’d take over 500 hp and some serious driving to break either one. Then supercharge or turbocharge and your good to go
I have a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7L and I'm about to do some things to it now. Thanks for the advice from you and the comment section
I still got the 5.7 in mine running low 10s and high 9 in boost weather. Posted a few if y’all wanna see what a built 5.7 will do
Just watched a couple of em, that thing is quick as hell lol. Sounds nice too.
Couldn’t be happier with my 2007 Daytona charger with the 5.7, I’ve only done cams and heads and at 325,000 miles on it it’s still smooth and clean. It’s been babied tho
Can you do a video on the newer model hemi’s? I have a 2019 hemi and Want to know what all it’s capable of.
No matter what you have to take care of hemisphere engine and give it lots of love cause it will love you more back to
I used to gap 6.4 owners with my 6.1 hemi with cai and few tuning
Please talk about the 6.1 hemi
There is a 6.1 here in my town at the local junkyard for $400. It’s in a wrecked SRT Magnum. I’m thinking about buying it my Magnum has the 5.7 in it. The 6.1 would be a nice upgrade huh?
@@mr84ttop34 You can get stroker kits for 6.1s up to 426. Someone else said it, the 6.1 is obsolete, but it's also horribly slept on. You still want to check cams and lifters, but that engine was nasty when it came out.
Dam imma try this on my 03 DODGE RAM HEMI 5.7 then thxs king 👑💯
Gap the pistons, grab a ported Redeye supercharger and a tune📝✅
Dude for reals lets not forget the tranny that he just mentioned on the video with all these things im guessing easily 668whp or more
Gaping the pistons means adding ring?
Thank you for this video bro because I'm tired of having this argument with people. 🎯💯💯👏🏽💪🏾
From the standpoint that you can buy a 5.7 for less than a 6.4 and throw a supercharger onto it and have more HP than a 6.4 for less money, yeah, its better. If you want to go NA and try to match the 6.4 in power, not so much. Unfortunately the 5.7 doesn't handle boost as well as others though. So if you want to go for 4-didgit HP numbers, you're going to have to build the shit out of your engine to get there without it blowing up.
Bro your like a car doctor. If I had extra bread I'd hire you just to get what I need. I know cars but damn I didn't know about these hemis like that. Most def need u to come up with a spread sheet for 2 cars I'm looking Into purchasing. Your the shit bro keep these videos coming
Finally found you ! A none bias guy who calls out how good a engine can be regardless of the platform !
The problem is you have to disassemble the block and put new piston rings. That’s the flaw in the early hemis. At this point there’s no reason for me to tear apart the block unless it takes a dump on me. So I’m okay with my stock 345HP.
Put some respect on the R/T 🤞🏽💪🏾😤😤
I know it ain’t no Chevy motor, but it’s nice to see these 5.7s get some love.
These 5.7 hemi engines are notorious for lifters seizing up due to oil starvation. Ultimately causing the camshaft lobes to have grooves in them. The reason for oil starvation is due to poor engineering by Dodge/Fiat. The camshaft sits to high inside the engine for oil to reach, especially during idle.
I'm glad somebody said it .
Im waiting for my cam to go bad so I can Camm my hemi 😂😂
You nailed it. Mostly caused by engine idle. I've had a 2012 Ram HEMI with over 107,000 miles and it didn't tick. My 2017 Sport with 32,000 and over 150 idle hours ticks every time on start
@@beast_mode_4200 just cus it ticks doesn’t mean it’s the lifters and cam. Hemis are notorious for broken manifold bolts that also cause the ticking.
Don’t idle for long periods
Get regular oil change
Penzoil platinum 👍😎
Thanks. I had. 2007 rt Daytona. Great engine just needed to replace other things. I’d love to get another 5.7 car or truck
Tho I love the hemis what about the v6s out there what should you do for them
Boosted Luckey V6 when he had it was INSANE.
Nun get a v8
Great info. I wanna find an old police intereptor Charger and slap a supercharger on it, but I'm tempted to do my 5.7 Hemi 4x4, now, with the hellcat upgrade.
I had a 5.7 hemi for just under 3 years, at about 35000 miles one of the pistons in the cylinders that turn off during highway driving seized up and blew up the cylinder. Ram said they would honor the warranty and fix it free of charge. Long story short I now have a Ram with the 3.6 Pentastar V6 and I've had it now for about 6 years and I haven't had one single problem with it. I must've got one the bad batch Hemis made in Mexico.
5.7 sound the best with a good exhaust too!
I’m seriously considering a r/t magnum. I love wagons and add a v8 I mean that’s just awesome.
I’d take my 6.4 any day , I loved my 5.7 but it just wasn’t there if you want to dump 10k+ into the 5.7 just to make it “ as fast a 6.4 “ no point in my opinion
I’ve seen plenty of 6.4 run just fine with boost
LMFAO 😅 won't take 10k to make it what a 6.4 is. If you put 7k into a 6.4 and 7 into a 5.7 you have a 5.7 that will be equal if not better and more reliable lmfao 😅 you missed the point of your weak drivetrain.
Also you can run more boost in 5.7 than you can a 6.4 while being reliable. But yeah again you missed the point. Living breathing wojak.
yeah but at that point if you waste your money on a scat you cant do much to the motor that's all you got
Not going to lie though. I really like that. 4.7 l power tech engine kind of slept on imagine they just made it bigger instead of making a 5.7 hemi and we had a single overhead cam I've seen those 4.7 l with lots of mileage. My friend has one with 310,000 mi in a Dakota... He is a mechanic and it also was on its second transmission
I’ve wanted a ‘11-‘14 charger with a 5.7 cause people forget, they came AWD!!! You could have a budged AWD hellcat killer easy 🤷🏽♂️
Until that transfer case explodes or the 5 speed transmission lol I used to have one
Trust me, not worth the trouble. Modding it is much more difficult. I can keep a scat at my fender though, and flat out embarass the RWD rt.
@@leopapio683 da hell did you do to get the T case to blow ?? 😬 im almost to 200k and it hasnt been stock for 135k. Granted its starting to act out but its still takin 472 TQ, barely though. I beat the shit outta this poor whale 🤣
@@mrhyde0705 never happened lol but seeing as to getting one built cost an arm and a leg I never pushed it 😅
@@leopapio683 indeed. Even finding a nice set of wheels was hard. And now that they're ready to be replaced i cant find a new set 😪
This is good information to know and I've always wanted older models as project cars because it's easier to hook them up versus the newer beefed up engines that they have now in a lot of models cars.
6.4 L naturally aspirated engine over a steroid 5.7. I’ll take the 6.4
6.4 is already steroid from factory pushing all it's got while the 5.7 is just limited from factory so I'd go with the 5.7
Me and my lil bro are about to hemi 5.7 swap our 3rd gen Camaros , I know but hey it’s Merica!!! And those hemis LOVE BOOST!!!
Can’t say this with Grand Cherokees though. A 6.4 SRT Grand Cherokee is a lot better then a 5.7 overland/summit.
built a awd police charger with a 5.7 and xs turbo made 780 awhp. Sold it and now building an 02 tahoe with a 6.0 turbo 4x4 leveled on 35s. Gonna be wild. hemi or ls both reliable with some modifications.
What’s up with the 6.1 Hemi? Would that be easier to build power compared to the 5.7? I feel like the 6.1 would see better power increases on low boost.
The 6.1 is an absolute monster when treated right!!!!!! I had a stroked 5.7 that started knocking reeeaaallyyy bad so I’m currently now looking for a 6.1 to throw in there with a 270 comp cam, longtube kooks headers, throttle body spacer, tune & some good ol 305s, possibly 315s in the rear!!!
@@MikeLowry488 did you put the hellcat oil pump in your 5.7?
You've got my attention. My first gen Dakota needs a V8 eventually. Holley even makes a kit to drop a gen III in there.
Drop a 5.9 in it never look back
@@hunterterrenceth That's most likely what I'm going to do. It would definitely be cheaper. It just depends on how crazy I want to go.
@@FUNKOfilms Yea My 03 durango has the 5.9l hemi great engine. But the 46re transmission not so great. What are your suggestions for that
@@hunterterrenceth The Magnum? I know there're some things you can do with them like upgrading the heads and probably even boost but there's not going to be as much support out there. Either way, it would be a nice upgrade from the 3.9 in my '88. I'd like to keep the 5 speed but I'll probably need a beefier one.
You save me alot of time an money with this message I brought a V6 2011 challenger just to play with as a stree car I was goin to get hellcat motor put in it an 😂 sneak on someone at the light but Im going to swap it for a 5.7 now
We coming mane 😂 god bless bro
I've been a fan of the 5.7 Hemis because the potential these motors have. 6.4 block is the same as the 5.7 block. The cylinder walls on a 5.7 are thick to produce a lot of power and especially if you want to forge the bottom end for stupid power. The 6.4 is alright if your keeping it N/A and just doing a step up cam upgrade with bolt ons but not good enough for boost. I'm curious though.. What does everyone think about the 6.1 Hemi? I thought there's good potential with the 6.1 Hemi too.
He drops these at the perfect time
I wish this guy was my friend!! He's just full of awesome ideas, I wonder what He could think of to improve the performance for my old beater..
Bro speaking facts my 2020 Laramie night edition with the 5.7 hemi and let me tell you I got my shit pushing 650 hp (at the wheels) with some turbos I’ve done put 90k miles on it zero problems I ain’t even got a transmission slip or anything love this truck if you get a ram please do yourself a favor and get the hemi you won’t be let down I promise
Very good analogy on the 5 year old and the laxative. 🤣🤣
Peeped the My Hero Academia shirt 🔥🤙🏾