Hey all! In the spirit of not misinforming people if there are any corrections/updates to this story I'll update it here! Edit: so based off what a lot of you are saying this game has been around in some form or another for 7 years not 2! Thanks for letting me know! Also for the love of God, DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS GAME Even if you don't plan on spending money, it can steal data from your phone. If you've ever logged into an account on your phone it puts your passwords at risk, if you've ever made a purchase on your phone it puts your financials at risk. A pretty animation you can look up on YT ain't worth getting your passwords stolen
I think I found the game under a new name, and now they seem to be abusing a fatal flaw of the play store's features, now it is listed as early access, what this means is that nobody can post reviews, therefore, you can't look through the reviews to find anyone telling you the huge scam it is.
Passion projects typically don't have microtransactions though. Profiting off of someone else's IP is a different beast from giving people a free fan game/romhack.
There are actually ads all over youtube of games using OFFICIAL POKEMON FOOTAGE. This seems crazy to me, seeing as Nintendo is normally so protective of their copyrights. I wonder how these people and TH-cam itself are getting away with this...
TH-cam has a clause in their ToS where they aren't responsible. It's why whenever anyone pretends to be a company and issues a takedown they just do it without checking if the takedown is from a legitimate source, so they can't be held responsible. With the sheer number of videos they can't catch 'em all.
Hell I got an ad for this scam game when I clicked on this video! It changes it’s name all the time. For a while it was pet impact, then pet compact, now god knows what
many small ad budgets from shell companys nintendo would have to call alphebit uncomplient in intent to remove them and sue them for anything to happen
Pokemon should be putting this much effort into there games instead of just the stock animation plug an play garbage. I'm upset pokemon doesn't do any of this.
Between this, your iceberg, and your pokemon cost videos, you might have some of my favorite Pokemon deep dives. This was extremely well-researched and I’m glad you’re doing your part to protect people who might’ve been tempered to try the game.
This is not a "fan made" game. It's a game by a scummy company that illegally uses the Pokémon IP. I refuse to lump this game with the community driven content made by fans for free.
@@gilldominicmendoza5202 I agree, this particular game is very scummy and even dangerous. I was referring to the fan made animations that the game was using. My bad if you thought I was supporting this game.
Probably helps they don't have a bigger cooperation above them giving them super strict deadlines with the absolute minimum to make a game. Btw I'm not talkin Nintendo. Pokemon Company is one of the probably worst companies in the world.
It's because while these animations look good, they are also simpler... they are also made over YEARS and put individually and then just gathered together.... Not to mention that with the exception of their base animations from previous gens, they have to be lore accurate. Honestly, it instead just shows that Gamefreak should probably use 2d and 3d in their battles...
its disgraceful to know that there are devs out there making scam apps like this... im glad i saw this when i did because i had the thought of downloading this game, good thing i didnt...
And there are some posts on IG that are comparing the z-move animation in sun and moon (or ultra sun and ultra moon) and this games animation attack saying that the bottom game did better and the fact that many comments are roasting or bashing Nintendo shows how complete idiots they are
The animations are really cool but I think its safe to assume they somehow stole them or grievously underpaid whoever made it for them. This is one of the few times I am glad that Nintendo is suing someone. May the Nintendo Ninjas show them no mercy.
I plan on doing more deep dives, to this day my favorite video is one of my first which is where I tally up how much each pokemon is worth in USD. There'll still be romhacks but expect one of these every once in a while :)
@@moopsten With that thumbnail you marked youself fisrt poketube for me to ask this from. Which one you'd rather have? Team of "feminine" pokemon (such as Gardevoir, Lopunny, Gothitelle, Primarina ect) but they're all MALE? or Team of "masculine" pokemon (Machamp, Slaking, Alakazam, Incineroar ect) but they're all FEMALE?
I was also enamoured by the Gardevoir animation when i saw it, i tried to find it and play it a bit even but it led nowhere for me. I'm rlly thankful that you made a video on this bcs i was still rlly curious abt this game! Edit: Jeez and i thinking it wouldn't do any harm to play it for a bit… At least i got informed about this!!
I remember playing one of those knockoffs games, there was that one guy who i felt so bad in the world chat losing over thousands of real dollars because he was trying to get a nonexistent mega version of mewtwo because the way to get it is by becoming number 1, By number one i mean becoming the number 1 spender of the week. He was on 1st but someone snagged the 1st place cuz someone spent more money at the last minute.
Pokémon cafe (an official Pokémon game) got some surprising facts too: -it’s a Gacha game -you can spend real money to get more in game currency -there’s a summer Vaporeon outfit and a maid gardevoir outfit. (I know a maid outfit isn’t necessarily sexual but it’s heavily sexualized on the internet and in for example anime series, something from Japan (just like the Nintendo company) and Gardevoir is also heavily sexualized by the internet and there’s simply no way Nintendo doesn’t know this.)
As a teacher in a SEN school, I'm making a real push for more education on gacha games and their risks for staff and students alike. I can think of so many students who absolutely love Pokémon (as do I!) who would fall prey to this sort of thing so easily... I'm a Genshin player myself so it's not like I don't understand, but education on the risks should be as necessary as education on any other type of gambling IMO!
I just searched this game on Google Play and the only thing I'm getting is "Pocket Arena", but looking through the comments it seems like it was originally called "Megamon", and the comments also confirm that the game is the same as Elf Fantasy. So yeah, they did it again
That whole thing about constantly taking the game down and re-uploading it under a new developer is something that they do for several other games like DragonBall Afk, or several one piece games
14:10 It's so obvious Moop has NEVER played a gacha game before, because usually in gacha games the first roll is always guaranteed to be the same character on EVERY ACCOUNT! This is the case for Honkai Star Rail with Asta, Genshin Impact with Noelle(if you decide to roll on the beginner banner that is), Solo Leveling ARISE with Song Chiyul, Wuthering Waves with Chixia, and etc etc. So this is not at all proof of them rigging the rates of the game, this is just a common gacha mechanic. And the whole cryogenal thing is just bad luck.
I remember playing a game fairly similar to this years ago. I got bored eventually and i left. Game disappeared, never showed up again, and now there are several other games like it. Its fairly impressive im ngl.
Really nice video! Wanna add a small extra detail on the gem prices section starting at 12:20, from the perspective of a former gacha player (not of the super known ones you mentioned, though still decently "reputable" ones - plus most follow a similar pattern): Those packs do seem disproportionate at first, but it's while at the initial purchase stage. That "firstX2" is pretty roughly translated but it's usual that the games offer you as a starting player double the gems/quartz/etc you buy for the first couple purchases of each pack. After those, the ratio of "extra gems" plummets dramatically. As an example, Magia Record from Aniplex would offer more than 100% bonus gems on the smaller packages - but for the big one, it'd go from the "One Time Only" 1000 Magia Stones (560 paid + 440 free) to 750 (560+190) for the same low price of... 69.99 Yeah the pricing wasn't very healthy there either. And that was 3-4 10x rolls lmao Just to mention the smaller one, it'd go from 50 stones (8 paid + 42 free) for 0.99 to 8 for the same price, no bonus. Small bonus starting at around the 15 USD packages, and even then a small one like the pack mentioned above.
13:00 This story hit me hard, and probably has traumatized me from ever spending money on games again. When I was like 5 or 6 I played this game that I think was called Shark Dash. I found out that if I clicked on the plus symbol next to the gold, and then click on another button, I would get more gold. Later on I would find out that that actually close real money and I probably ended up spending around a thousand dollars. It’s absolutely scummy how in game purchases didn’t need any verification back then and children could just spend thousands without knowing. Anyway that’s the story of how I’ll never spend any money on games ever again
1. Games asking for your contacts etc is common, just to prevent spreading misinformation.. 2. The animations are stolen from other games using rigs in blender, it only takes a few minutes to take the animation and insert another rigged model to it 3 is just my personal opinion but SwSh demake shows perfectly why Pokémon should've stayed in the pixel lane
Something like this happened to me: I started playing a free-to-play Pokémon game without knowing that it was fake. The game itself got me hooked at the time. It’s impressive how far the criminals go in order to fool people.
Thanks for this video I already knew about this game from some other youtubers and was thinking to download it but it's thanks to you that i get to know how dangerous it can be for downloading it thanks again❤️❤️👍👍
The animations are certainly something. But as soon as I saw the game I knew it was gonna be gacha. (A genre I do not care for) Now I know it’s sketchy, shady and predatory gacha.
The reason why there are other apps with the same ad or animations is because they all are the same game but they have more than 1 so they don't lose all their players. They can login or join all the same servers!
I'm an asian, the game i have seen lots of times in app store, but the name change again and again. the animations of gardevoir's skill I have seen a lot, too. and every time i see, they are completely different but still beautiful
Man, this makes me sad. I really enjoyed playing this game, and I was still enjoying it before I got completely locked out of it. It just scratched that one niche that I really loved, and it felt perfect: AFK style games. I have played AFK Arena for several years now, and when I found a freaking POKEMON styled AFK game, my excitement was immeasurable. So, uh..... could someone maybe make a non predatory AFK Pokemon collecting game? 😅
@@atomanni-k5m Don't know. It just kicked me out of the game and I couldn't log back in. And it won't let me install any of the games anymore either. I guess it targets free to play accounts too?
@@rakhmathadita3917 and love live somehow survive 10 years The second game only have short life but their third game somehow stay 1 year despite we never hear them before In short if your game is love live rest assured it have quite long life
About time someone made a video about this game 👍I've been a fan of Pokemon games since Red release so it's nice to see people pointing out scams like this, nice job 🙂👍
glad i found this video before even touching it on the play store! i've been gettings ads of this game (or at least something that seems similar) with the same stolen assets, gacha mechanic, cool animations. the title is in chinese but when translated it's also got something to do with its previous names. ironically, i got an ad for it while watching this video lol
So this game has been floating around for like 7 years and had no animations. I played what was probably the first iteration. It was fun but monetized to hell
I'm going to have to say that little research was done on the game and heavy overgeneralization was used. The game gets updated every month, at first there was only 7 s+ mons, now there's over 30, new S+ mons gets added every month, the game gets taken down from the store (Because of copyright), you are alerted ingame when it happens and where to download the game. This is a competitive game with team building, not a story based game, content has been pushed out every month for 7 years and will continue to do so. The discord does not "encourage" spending, infact, it does the opposite, with listing extensive guides on what to do, how to save, how much diamonds you can expect to get in a month, what to avoid doing. The game is F2P if you have time to put in the game, a lot of the top ranking players in older servers haven't even paid a dollar. "Stealing information and cash", when making accusations, provide proof. The app doesn't collect more data than your average app. And when it comes to "Stealing cash", the game does not steal your cash, sure, it asks for it, but It's also your choice to not spend it. You weren't forced to, take responsibility for your own actions. Be better Moopsten.
Yeah feels like the video was just not well researched enough and very badly put together. The only thing you need to actually know about this game is that it's not official or licensed and therefore you should not spend money on it. That's it. And as for the stealing data thing, Facebook and other huge social media apps already do that and on a much larger scale and I doubt it'd cause any real damage or harm especially since it's a very popular game in East Asia and if it caused a huge issue then a massive scandal would've come out by now, and if you're really scared just use a throwaway email lol.
Im SOO happy I found this video randomly! Ever since I downloaded the “Delta Emulator” on my iOS I have been getting adds for this game. Mines called “Battle Masters: Adventure.” At the moment. I have been wanting to check it out but just really felt the trailers were too good to be true, along with getting a second add shortly after the first one displaying “first person gameplay” and realized it’s prolly fake. Thank you for spreading the word man you are great for this video!! I want an open world Pokémon game that feels like gta and or a Pokémon vr game but until Nintendo say something don’t believe it. Edit: while watching this video halfway thru and while initially typing my comment I got yet another add from them.. just saying, they’re throwing their adds onto your video.
Gatchas are one of my favorite mechanics to see in a game for many reasons! No coincidence the arts and animations are amazing because in these types of games character creation is turned up to high gear because if you want people to pull gotta get em invested into the characters.
Would like to point out that usually in gacha games your first pull is always rigged to be one specific character on this case Geodude and honestly the same can be said about Cryogonal it's the classic highest rarity character they give you for free just so you feel good about it
As a person who actually plays these type of games, these games definitely are coppa violations. Nowhere in any of the games say "You have to be 13+" or something about gambling and ect. As soon as you get to play these games, its just advertising saying stuff like "Recharge to get to Vip level 2". There is so many of these games and you can find many by just selecting on new apps and you find so many. These games also hide their identity by using fake screenshots of other games and also block you from downloading the game from certain devices.
I forgot to mention, but this kind of practice is also on roblox (but way less scummy) which are pokemon brick bronze copies. They most of the time now have a roulette.. which is basically a loot box. And it requires robux, roblox's currency which requires REAL MONEY. They then reupload these games and gain more money and "DevEX" it which is exchanging robux for money.
Now that's weird,because when I did play it (for like a week no money spent, just grinded) I was never asked for any personal info nor did I ever get multiple duplicate pokemon everytime i drew 10. Maybe it's because I downloaded it when it was a bit new, IDK. But damn this game was so scummy. I was bored within a week wtf
you never get asked, using tos they steal your data with your unknown consent. every big app does it but this one may be much worse with valuable data being stolen.
I downloaded this game for fun, as a personal experience, takes about 3 months to obtain every S tier playing F2P, (except for the blazakin line) and it progressively grows more and more strategic, new pokemon added monthly or so and other gameplay are added on holidays
9:13 the thing i dont like about that argument is that this applies to every game, not just gachas. for instance, in every pokemon game you search (therefore wasting your time) for a random pokemon out of the grass. Or even popular mobile games like brawl stars or crossy road have rng rewards
The actual APK for the game is much safer. Been playing it for half a year and know people that have been playing for years. The global release version is extremely safe, not sure about the Chinese version though, that's much harder to find.
There At Least 2 Games Like This For Dragon Ball And 2 For Digimon, One It Looks Like 3D Assets And The Other Is Basically Like This One With 2D Art/Sprites? Whatever (The Only Thing I Remember Is The Knock Off "Susanoomon" Using His "Ama-No-Habakiri" And Cutting Earth In Half, But This One Game I Cant Actually Find It)
Since I was given free access to downloading any games I wanted as a kid I've been trying to see how long in a mobile game I can go without needing to pay due to the game it's self throwing a wall at me that extensive playing will not make easier. I've practically mastered 'speedrunning' to the wall in idle games as I learnt you can tap with all your fingers and it makes it go way faster every time. It can take just about an hour to hit a wall in most and in those same ones they throw the "BUY THE BONUS NOW!" messages at you when you open the game or run out of some rando currency they make. I've tried some tower defense, slight RPGs, rouge likes and some really unique style games that were actually pretty good but usually have an ending that makes it a short experience (the one with the robot trying to recycle rubbish after the extinction of humanity was so sad) However the games I've played the most long term have been gacha after my partner who has even more experience with those kinds introduced me to Hoyoverse games. The company who made Genshin. I hadn't had much experience with those games outside of AFK Arena but even then that was an on and off experience and felt more like an idle game. (Kinda is really.) I decided to play and I really liked the story of Genshin and stuck around. After learning about the gacha system I've stuck by my rule to play without spending real money and have done all the recent content and have progressed fine. Same for when I played Honkai Star Rail and Honkai Impact 3rd. I'd say Honkai Impact 3rd is more forward about the gacha element and paying but it's still completely doable. Those games I can respect because you really don't need to pay if you just time your pulls right by saving up and doing side quests occasionally. You even have a system that if you don't get something the first time you definitely do the next and a limit on how much you put in to get that to happen. You don't even really need to pull as you get given a lot of free characters over the course of events. I actually still use some free non banner received characters in the games. Then there are games that don't have that failsafe and literally make the game completely unplayable unless you get this random more powerful thing via paying them money to make it happen faster, or even worse make you *think* it'll happen faster. Either make people pay from the very beginning and give full access to the game and it's things, or at least give a more limited but still doable way of progression that doesn't force people to pay you and let the game's impression on them decide. And especially fuck these guys in particular for trying to bait kids because of stolen content. For once I hope Nintendo squishes this game as it's not fan content, it's just exploitation of easily tricked minors and others who may be unable to know the difference. Out of all the trash I've seen on the play store, stuff like this is always the worst.
If I remember correctly the Gardevoir animation got into my feed and many people in the comments were calling out the scam, the channel was promoting the game.
I think I found the game you were talking about but it has a different name and different company name but the previews are still the same the game is called pet tamer: evolve journey (early access)
It really sucks because when I saw the initial animation with the Gardevoir, I went “holy crap that’s my favorite Pokémon” (not for that reason you freaks), but just now, knowing this, it saddens me
ive been playing this game for a bit before seeing that video, yet it feels like the game you're describing is totally different from what ive been playing, even the name and discord is different
I actually play a gatcha game that being yugioh duel links (i still wish someone archived all the dialog from past events) and it not only follows cappa it's also a ko-money official game
The one thing i dislike about duel links is them removing duel quizzes and loaner deck duels. I know theyre still there but i thought it was nice to have a way for new players to explore new archetypes they might want to try or a quick way to receive gems.
I feel like there is much more to do outside of Nintendo's grasp to officially stop this "phenomenon". Devs like these, pushing their limits between legal and Illegal movements, that could lead to more limitations on other devs, and even future devs, on what they can or can't do. For example, this could lead to Nintendo making the Pokémon IP have a lot more heavy copyright, which would not only affect developers of fan games that utalize characters from the IP (for example, a fan game that adds fakemon as well as offical Pokémon in a new or reimagined region), but could also affect a lot of people, who either has a character as the theme of their online identity (like me), or utalizes a personal character that is highly based off the copyrighted character. These scummy devs deserve extreme punishment, especially when they take something, like a light-ish copyrighted IP (I'm saying light-ish due to the ammount of fan games and content that utalizes the characters under the Pokémon IP), and put their money predatory perspectives onto young children, who are most likely the only people who would fall for it due to the lack of scam education, and have the chance to ruin the whole IP access restrictions for everyone else, especially the ones who make their games out of passion and dont expect much monitozation; I was planning to use a more heavy and harsh descriptive than "scummy", but I'd rather keep things PG, ans would only go as high as PG-13 depending on the content.
They have added many new pokemon, it is updated just like any gacha game, ofc the game want you to spend money but like i said, it is a gacha game. I enjoy this game, i am F2P and I am far away from being like the other player spending money but still, i like this game, don't play it if u don't want to but, if children is playing a gacha game, anyone of them, then its the fault of the parents for not being careful of the doing of there children. Sorry if my english is bad, it is not my first language
I'm glad I mentioned this game to my friends after I found it last night because they sent me this video, it was the exact game under a different name, I thought it was neat but I was skeptical by how good the animations were, the second I found out they're asking to make phone calls on your behalf and steal your information, I deleted it, and the other app I played that was similar. Luckily for me, I chose to make my accounts with them with my side emails with passwords I use as link codes for dynamax adventures lmao! and I've never linked payment methods to my phone or the email account that I used, so they're SOL with me!
My little cousin is a professional PtW kid, and this is a very legitimate concern i have, as he has gotten crazy with it, and (kinda related, i think) has even hacked freaking Prodigy Math Game
I saw an add for the game a couple days ago while scrolling TH-cam shorts, and thought that it was pretty sketchy and if anyone else would notice that the game exists. I'm glad that it's being addressed as a giant scam now.
TBH i think Nintendo wants take down this game because of their karma and the fact the creators of this game arent doing for love but rather money which is a reasonable choice but they could tolerate more the fans works like theres fans that make fan games with this quality only to show their love and nintendo pay them back with bans which is stupid
Welp, I’ve been playing it the last two months. I figured this was the case. Thankfully I haven’t spent much, only a little bit. Good thing I know this now, I will not spend anymore and I will be watching my money carefully.
As i understand it, the only REAL downdside as a consumer playing this game is the risk of data being stolen, because the rest of the argument i see here is being a "Gacha Game", but as far as i know, Pokemon Masters is ALSO a gacha game.
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Hey all! In the spirit of not misinforming people if there are any corrections/updates to this story I'll update it here!
Edit: so based off what a lot of you are saying this game has been around in some form or another for 7 years not 2! Thanks for letting me know!
Also for the love of God, DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS GAME
Even if you don't plan on spending money, it can steal data from your phone. If you've ever logged into an account on your phone it puts your passwords at risk, if you've ever made a purchase on your phone it puts your financials at risk. A pretty animation you can look up on YT ain't worth getting your passwords stolen
would paying ethical hackers maybe work
I think it’s funny that he’s been so long trying to get one ralt and I have two and yes, I play the game
I can’t find Pokémon fan games
I think I found the game under a new name, and now they seem to be abusing a fatal flaw of the play store's features, now it is listed as early access, what this means is that nobody can post reviews, therefore, you can't look through the reviews to find anyone telling you the huge scam it is.
@@Jelly_shy_guy_man check youtube for one then google the name or look in the descriptions for a link, be safe
Nintendo really should be focused of more games like these instead of free rom hacks huh 😭
Tbf there isn't really any legal distinguisher between a passion project and a shameless cash grab
Passion projects typically don't have microtransactions though. Profiting off of someone else's IP is a different beast from giving people a free fan game/romhack.
Did... did you watch the video??? They're _trying_ to focus on it, but they haven't been able to take it down.
Real
@@JadeJuno yeah I know….I’m just saying they should leave free fan games alone when there’s games like this
There are actually ads all over youtube of games using OFFICIAL POKEMON FOOTAGE. This seems crazy to me, seeing as Nintendo is normally so protective of their copyrights. I wonder how these people and TH-cam itself are getting away with this...
TH-cam has a clause in their ToS where they aren't responsible. It's why whenever anyone pretends to be a company and issues a takedown they just do it without checking if the takedown is from a legitimate source, so they can't be held responsible. With the sheer number of videos they can't catch 'em all.
TH-cam is too greedy. Some of the ads here are basically softcore p*rn
Hell I got an ad for this scam game when I clicked on this video!
It changes it’s name all the time. For a while it was pet impact, then pet compact, now god knows what
many small ad budgets from shell companys nintendo would have to call alphebit uncomplient in intent to remove them and sue them for anything to happen
correction. protective of their Trademarks
Pokemon should be putting this much effort into there games instead of just the stock animation plug an play garbage. I'm upset pokemon doesn't do any of this.
Between this, your iceberg, and your pokemon cost videos, you might have some of my favorite Pokemon deep dives. This was extremely well-researched and I’m glad you’re doing your part to protect people who might’ve been tempered to try the game.
More on the way!
All jokes aside, it’s disgraceful that fan made games have so much better animation and quality than the mainline games.
This is not a "fan made" game. It's a game by a scummy company that illegally uses the Pokémon IP. I refuse to lump this game with the community driven content made by fans for free.
@@gilldominicmendoza5202 I agree, this particular game is very scummy and even dangerous. I was referring to the fan made animations that the game was using. My bad if you thought I was supporting this game.
@@gilldominicmendoza5202These guys paid for bangers with their money! Imagine what The Pokémon Company ™ can do with their budget!
Probably helps they don't have a bigger cooperation above them giving them super strict deadlines with the absolute minimum to make a game. Btw I'm not talkin Nintendo. Pokemon Company is one of the probably worst companies in the world.
It's because while these animations look good, they are also simpler... they are also made over YEARS and put individually and then just gathered together....
Not to mention that with the exception of their base animations from previous gens, they have to be lore accurate.
Honestly, it instead just shows that Gamefreak should probably use 2d and 3d in their battles...
its disgraceful to know that there are devs out there making scam apps like this... im glad i saw this when i did because i had the thought of downloading this game, good thing i didnt...
Thanks again moopsten for shining a light on this
And there are some posts on IG that are comparing the z-move animation in sun and moon (or ultra sun and ultra moon) and this games animation attack saying that the bottom game did better and the fact that many comments are roasting or bashing Nintendo shows how complete idiots they are
That's the sad thing about our society... People focus on making money instead of focusing on customer safety and satisfaction
Genshin is still there along with lootboxes in games like CoD or CSGO
The badass animations are also stolen
The animations are really cool but I think its safe to assume they somehow stole them or grievously underpaid whoever made it for them. This is one of the few times I am glad that Nintendo is suing someone. May the Nintendo Ninjas show them no mercy.
Still think that this is annoying because even THEN overworked animators BEAT animators at a billion dollar company
It may have been the company themselves which may have been a single person working on the game.
@@SonicKirby_069 Tf you on bud? That overpaid animator has a long time while companies rush their poor animators leading to lower quality animation.
Is Big Corp any better?
If Nintendo/Gamefreak wanted to do something about this, I would suggest just upscaling the quality of their games to the level of these knockoffs
This is my favorite video you've made. I love the rom hacks and the fan games but this informative one is really well made.
I plan on doing more deep dives, to this day my favorite video is one of my first which is where I tally up how much each pokemon is worth in USD. There'll still be romhacks but expect one of these every once in a while :)
@@moopsten With that thumbnail you marked youself fisrt poketube for me to ask this from.
Which one you'd rather have?
Team of "feminine" pokemon (such as Gardevoir, Lopunny, Gothitelle, Primarina ect) but they're all MALE?
or
Team of "masculine" pokemon (Machamp, Slaking, Alakazam, Incineroar ect) but they're all FEMALE?
@@moopstenisn't there a one tath dosent steal but has these animation pleaseeeee
This is actually a educational video because it shines a light on the atrocious side of bootlegs of famous franchises.
Nintendo only going for 72 mil?
The company really has changed being so gentle on the suit
I was also enamoured by the Gardevoir animation when i saw it, i tried to find it and play it a bit even but it led nowhere for me.
I'm rlly thankful that you made a video on this bcs i was still rlly curious abt this game!
Edit: Jeez and i thinking it wouldn't do any harm to play it for a bit… At least i got informed about this!!
If you want to play it, try to use an APK. I can't find it on the app store as well.
Came for Gardevior stayed for Moop
I came too
You ain't alone
Ofc your freaky ahh came here.
@@Justaphase69er....
*Came*
I still remember the time where mobile games are only there to to entertain people without stealing money
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You got the police’s attention
@@Kingklownmemes so they’ve finally caught up to me now… ashamed that they would’ve caught me 20 murders earlier if corruption hadn’t impeded them
What world do you live on? They’ve always been about making money.
@@teamofone1219 well not this desperate at least
They've never been good. Unless you mean like the literal one good mobile game that wasn't a cash grab while the other 99% was swimming around.
Respect Moop for creating awareness to such games... ❤
I remember playing one of those knockoffs games, there was that one guy who i felt so bad in the world chat losing over thousands of real dollars because he was trying to get a nonexistent mega version of mewtwo because the way to get it is by becoming number 1, By number one i mean becoming the number 1 spender of the week.
He was on 1st but someone snagged the 1st place cuz someone spent more money at the last minute.
I remember downloading one of them and i couldn't even play it it stuck on the loading screen
Oof
@@MasterReidxDsame
Summary of the story is that the devs aren't affiliated with pokemon in any way lmfao
@mizzix You forgot the part about using the ip to exploit children
📝👮♂️
@@viewer6152they're the true kings
They are stealing user data and changing the name to manipulate its mainly child audience
@@viewer6152i mean it isnt labled pokemon on google
Pokémon cafe (an official Pokémon game) got some surprising facts too:
-it’s a Gacha game
-you can spend real money to get more in game currency
-there’s a summer Vaporeon outfit and a maid gardevoir outfit. (I know a maid outfit isn’t necessarily sexual but it’s heavily sexualized on the internet and in for example anime series, something from Japan (just like the Nintendo company) and Gardevoir is also heavily sexualized by the internet and there’s simply no way Nintendo doesn’t know this.)
third time's the charm, they say. gardevoir was introduced in third generation
where to get maid and Vaporeon outfit?
"just ignore it" honestly that's the best advice you can give when something's trying to hurt you in the digital world
As a teacher in a SEN school, I'm making a real push for more education on gacha games and their risks for staff and students alike. I can think of so many students who absolutely love Pokémon (as do I!) who would fall prey to this sort of thing so easily... I'm a Genshin player myself so it's not like I don't understand, but education on the risks should be as necessary as education on any other type of gambling IMO!
I just searched this game on Google Play and the only thing I'm getting is "Pocket Arena", but looking through the comments it seems like it was originally called "Megamon", and the comments also confirm that the game is the same as Elf Fantasy. So yeah, they did it again
Is it called something different, now? Because I can't download it.
@@baalfgames5318 still Pocket Arena for me
Dragon Village Grand Battle shows up as the first suggestion when i looked
@@baalfgames5318Rise of Elf & SuperBeastShowdown on iPhones.
It was called pet impact recently aswell.
you're right i'm down bad with that Shiny Mega Gardevoir animation
That whole thing about constantly taking the game down and re-uploading it under a new developer is something that they do for several other games like DragonBall Afk, or several one piece games
the phone call access is usually asked to check if someone is calling and either "mute" or "stop the game" usually
Well thanks for the info, ngl that Gardevoir animation would have suckered me into playing it. But at least I know what this is about now.
14:10 It's so obvious Moop has NEVER played a gacha game before, because usually in gacha games the first roll is always guaranteed to be the same character on EVERY ACCOUNT! This is the case for Honkai Star Rail with Asta, Genshin Impact with Noelle(if you decide to roll on the beginner banner that is), Solo Leveling ARISE with Song Chiyul, Wuthering Waves with Chixia, and etc etc. So this is not at all proof of them rigging the rates of the game, this is just a common gacha mechanic. And the whole cryogenal thing is just bad luck.
Remember when mobile games where still...games?
Thats why I love Pokemon Go. One of the last survivors....
@@lemony4478 check out coromon
@@lemony4478 It’s official though
I remember playing a game fairly similar to this years ago. I got bored eventually and i left. Game disappeared, never showed up again, and now there are several other games like it. Its fairly impressive im ngl.
Gardevoirtini is not the fusion with victini i was expecting
pokemon fusion: “write that down! White that down!”
oh yeah, ooohhh yeaaaaaaaahhh
IT would BE A GOOD GAME IF IT WASNT SCAM
10:21 “we trust Nintendo” I don’t even trust my government 😂
Really nice video!
Wanna add a small extra detail on the gem prices section starting at 12:20, from the perspective of a former gacha player (not of the super known ones you mentioned, though still decently "reputable" ones - plus most follow a similar pattern): Those packs do seem disproportionate at first, but it's while at the initial purchase stage. That "firstX2" is pretty roughly translated but it's usual that the games offer you as a starting player double the gems/quartz/etc you buy for the first couple purchases of each pack. After those, the ratio of "extra gems" plummets dramatically.
As an example, Magia Record from Aniplex would offer more than 100% bonus gems on the smaller packages - but for the big one, it'd go from the "One Time Only" 1000 Magia Stones (560 paid + 440 free) to 750 (560+190) for the same low price of... 69.99
Yeah the pricing wasn't very healthy there either. And that was 3-4 10x rolls lmao
Just to mention the smaller one, it'd go from 50 stones (8 paid + 42 free) for 0.99 to 8 for the same price, no bonus. Small bonus starting at around the 15 USD packages, and even then a small one like the pack mentioned above.
13:00
This story hit me hard, and probably has traumatized me from ever spending money on games again.
When I was like 5 or 6 I played this game that I think was called Shark Dash. I found out that if I clicked on the plus symbol next to the gold, and then click on another button, I would get more gold. Later on I would find out that that actually close real money and I probably ended up spending around a thousand dollars. It’s absolutely scummy how in game purchases didn’t need any verification back then and children could just spend thousands without knowing.
Anyway that’s the story of how I’ll never spend any money on games ever again
I just remembered that game
1. Games asking for your contacts etc is common, just to prevent spreading misinformation..
2. The animations are stolen from other games using rigs in blender, it only takes a few minutes to take the animation and insert another rigged model to it
3 is just my personal opinion but SwSh demake shows perfectly why Pokémon should've stayed in the pixel lane
Something like this happened to me:
I started playing a free-to-play Pokémon game without knowing that it was fake.
The game itself got me hooked at the time. It’s impressive how far the criminals go in order to fool people.
I guess some Chinese Pokemon knockoff is trying to make it's own... *Impact.*
Thanks for this video I already knew about this game from some other youtubers and was thinking to download it but it's thanks to you that i get to know how dangerous it can be for downloading it thanks again❤️❤️👍👍
The animations are certainly something. But as soon as I saw the game I knew it was gonna be gacha. (A genre I do not care for) Now I know it’s sketchy, shady and predatory gacha.
Pokémon already has Masters EX anyways
I really hope we can find the animations original sources eventually. They’re really cool…
Reminds me of Super Robot Wars in a way.
@@CyberDagger003 you know what, I totally get it. I am a massive simp for both SRW and Pokemon and I can see some similarities myself.
Anyone got a link for the gardevoir animation?
Well, didn't know about this until now, and I'm wondering if there's a Lopunny/Mega Lopunny set of animations, or if it's even in this game.
"If Nintendo can't take this game down, what am I gonna do" 😂😂
The reason why there are other apps with the same ad or animations is because they all are the same game but they have more than 1 so they don't lose all their players. They can login or join all the same servers!
14:27 "Why was each of them getting a Cryogonal?"
I pulled a Qiqi...
Not my boy Cryogonal getting dissed😭
Still W content bro
Who tf likes cryogonal bro 💀
Cryogonal on hieno pokémoni. ❄️
@@ghosthegoatedhim/her apparently
I'm an asian, the game i have seen lots of times in app store, but the name change again and again. the animations of gardevoir's skill I have seen a lot, too. and every time i see, they are completely different but still beautiful
Surfshark hit Moopsten with a sponsor at the best time possible
pikachu sounds like the free 5* you get in gatcha games like this and squirtle is a 3* and becomes a 5* as blastiose
Man, this makes me sad. I really enjoyed playing this game, and I was still enjoying it before I got completely locked out of it. It just scratched that one niche that I really loved, and it felt perfect: AFK style games. I have played AFK Arena for several years now, and when I found a freaking POKEMON styled AFK game, my excitement was immeasurable. So, uh..... could someone maybe make a non predatory AFK Pokemon collecting game? 😅
locked out? why?
@@atomanni-k5m Don't know. It just kicked me out of the game and I couldn't log back in. And it won't let me install any of the games anymore either. I guess it targets free to play accounts too?
Maybe you should consider pokemon sleep.
you know it is a non-nintendo game, if blastoise fires the hydropump from its cannon and not its face XD
So uh... I'm sure you know right?
17:18 "there is expectation of longevity"
bandai and squarenix mobile game : "we dont do that here"
oof
R.I.P dq tact btw
@@rakhmathadita3917 and love live somehow survive 10 years
The second game only have short life but their third game somehow stay 1 year despite we never hear them before
In short if your game is love live rest assured it have quite long life
There are a few of them tho, they literally just changed their name, gancha each Pokemon have different rarity and offline rewards
About time someone made a video about this game 👍I've been a fan of Pokemon games since Red release so it's nice to see people pointing out scams like this, nice job 🙂👍
9:56 Elders have harder times than kids when it comes to technology
2:18
The way how you sentenced the list of reasons made it sound like a phone call access was strangely the least harmful out of the rest.
glad i found this video before even touching it on the play store! i've been gettings ads of this game (or at least something that seems similar) with the same stolen assets, gacha mechanic, cool animations. the title is in chinese but when translated it's also got something to do with its previous names. ironically, i got an ad for it while watching this video lol
1:05 Gen 10 animation leaks lookin crazy
fire
So this game has been floating around for like 7 years and had no animations. I played what was probably the first iteration. It was fun but monetized to hell
Moop: There's nothing we can do.
Napoleon in the back:
That was a smooth sponsor transition ngl
I'm going to have to say that little research was done on the game and heavy overgeneralization was used. The game gets updated every month, at first there was only 7 s+ mons, now there's over 30, new S+ mons gets added every month, the game gets taken down from the store (Because of copyright), you are alerted ingame when it happens and where to download the game. This is a competitive game with team building, not a story based game, content has been pushed out every month for 7 years and will continue to do so.
The discord does not "encourage" spending, infact, it does the opposite, with listing extensive guides on what to do, how to save, how much diamonds you can expect to get in a month, what to avoid doing. The game is F2P if you have time to put in the game, a lot of the top ranking players in older servers haven't even paid a dollar.
"Stealing information and cash", when making accusations, provide proof. The app doesn't collect more data than your average app. And when it comes to "Stealing cash", the game does not steal your cash, sure, it asks for it, but It's also your choice to not spend it. You weren't forced to, take responsibility for your own actions.
Be better Moopsten.
I suspect you work for this sham of a company, shame on you.
Whats the game even called i wanna give it a try but cant find it
@@takedatakehashi6021 you really don’t, the game is borderline malware
@@glitchyboi-nk1qv honestly just like the animations so if I can view them elsewhere I wouldn't try it either
@@takedatakehashi6021 not worth it, trust me
i like how a chunk of the video is about gachas targeting kids being scummy, while pokemon themselves has a official gacha lol
Yeah feels like the video was just not well researched enough and very badly put together. The only thing you need to actually know about this game is that it's not official or licensed and therefore you should not spend money on it. That's it. And as for the stealing data thing, Facebook and other huge social media apps already do that and on a much larger scale and I doubt it'd cause any real damage or harm especially since it's a very popular game in East Asia and if it caused a huge issue then a massive scandal would've come out by now, and if you're really scared just use a throwaway email lol.
The reasoning for Moop wanting to play this game is the same reasoning for how I got into One Piece💀💀💀
Damn! That Gardevoir animation is Stunning!
I won't download, I don't even play phone games, but I can admire impressive work.
So that's where that meme of some random illegal Pokémon game vs the actual one
now if you rephrase this video enough, you'll get hypnos lullaby, but hypno is just mugging the child for there parents money.
Currently called "Pocket Incoming: World". I got an ad for it while watching this video lmao
Im SOO happy I found this video randomly! Ever since I downloaded the “Delta Emulator” on my iOS I have been getting adds for this game. Mines called “Battle Masters: Adventure.” At the moment. I have been wanting to check it out but just really felt the trailers were too good to be true, along with getting a second add shortly after the first one displaying “first person gameplay” and realized it’s prolly fake. Thank you for spreading the word man you are great for this video!! I want an open world Pokémon game that feels like gta and or a Pokémon vr game but until Nintendo say something don’t believe it.
Edit: while watching this video halfway thru and while initially typing my comment I got yet another add from them.. just saying, they’re throwing their adds onto your video.
Finally Nintendo doing something about the app
Gatchas are one of my favorite mechanics to see in a game for many reasons!
No coincidence the arts and animations are amazing because in these types of games character creation is turned up to high gear because if you want people to pull gotta get em invested into the characters.
1:11 …bro did they skin that gardevoir???? its dress is part of its body 😨
haircut
nintendo needs to take notes from those battle animations!
Would like to point out that usually in gacha games your first pull is always rigged to be one specific character on this case Geodude and honestly the same can be said about Cryogonal it's the classic highest rarity character they give you for free just so you feel good about it
As a person who actually plays these type of games, these games definitely are coppa violations. Nowhere in any of the games say "You have to be 13+" or something about gambling and ect. As soon as you get to play these games, its just advertising saying stuff like "Recharge to get to Vip level 2". There is so many of these games and you can find many by just selecting on new apps and you find so many. These games also hide their identity by using fake screenshots of other games and also block you from downloading the game from certain devices.
I forgot to mention, but this kind of practice is also on roblox (but way less scummy) which are pokemon brick bronze copies. They most of the time now have a roulette.. which is basically a loot box. And it requires robux, roblox's currency which requires REAL MONEY. They then reupload these games and gain more money and "DevEX" it which is exchanging robux for money.
Now that's weird,because when I did play it (for like a week no money spent, just grinded) I was never asked for any personal info nor did I ever get multiple duplicate pokemon everytime i drew 10. Maybe it's because I downloaded it when it was a bit new, IDK. But damn this game was so scummy. I was bored within a week wtf
you never get asked, using tos they steal your data with your unknown consent. every big app does it but this one may be much worse with valuable data being stolen.
I downloaded this game for fun, as a personal experience, takes about 3 months to obtain every S tier playing F2P, (except for the blazakin line) and it progressively grows more and more strategic, new pokemon added monthly or so and other gameplay are added on holidays
9:13 the thing i dont like about that argument is that this applies to every game, not just gachas. for instance, in every pokemon game you search (therefore wasting your time) for a random pokemon out of the grass. Or even popular mobile games like brawl stars or crossy road have rng rewards
The actual APK for the game is much safer. Been playing it for half a year and know people that have been playing for years. The global release version is extremely safe, not sure about the Chinese version though, that's much harder to find.
There At Least 2 Games Like This For Dragon Ball
And 2 For Digimon, One It Looks Like 3D Assets And The Other Is Basically Like This One With 2D Art/Sprites? Whatever (The Only Thing I Remember Is The Knock Off "Susanoomon" Using His "Ama-No-Habakiri" And Cutting Earth In Half, But This One Game I Cant Actually Find It)
But it's so much better than the recent Pokemon games
Since I was given free access to downloading any games I wanted as a kid I've been trying to see how long in a mobile game I can go without needing to pay due to the game it's self throwing a wall at me that extensive playing will not make easier. I've practically mastered 'speedrunning' to the wall in idle games as I learnt you can tap with all your fingers and it makes it go way faster every time. It can take just about an hour to hit a wall in most and in those same ones they throw the "BUY THE BONUS NOW!" messages at you when you open the game or run out of some rando currency they make. I've tried some tower defense, slight RPGs, rouge likes and some really unique style games that were actually pretty good but usually have an ending that makes it a short experience (the one with the robot trying to recycle rubbish after the extinction of humanity was so sad)
However the games I've played the most long term have been gacha after my partner who has even more experience with those kinds introduced me to Hoyoverse games. The company who made Genshin. I hadn't had much experience with those games outside of AFK Arena but even then that was an on and off experience and felt more like an idle game. (Kinda is really.) I decided to play and I really liked the story of Genshin and stuck around. After learning about the gacha system I've stuck by my rule to play without spending real money and have done all the recent content and have progressed fine. Same for when I played Honkai Star Rail and Honkai Impact 3rd. I'd say Honkai Impact 3rd is more forward about the gacha element and paying but it's still completely doable. Those games I can respect because you really don't need to pay if you just time your pulls right by saving up and doing side quests occasionally. You even have a system that if you don't get something the first time you definitely do the next and a limit on how much you put in to get that to happen. You don't even really need to pull as you get given a lot of free characters over the course of events. I actually still use some free non banner received characters in the games.
Then there are games that don't have that failsafe and literally make the game completely unplayable unless you get this random more powerful thing via paying them money to make it happen faster, or even worse make you *think* it'll happen faster. Either make people pay from the very beginning and give full access to the game and it's things, or at least give a more limited but still doable way of progression that doesn't force people to pay you and let the game's impression on them decide.
And especially fuck these guys in particular for trying to bait kids because of stolen content. For once I hope Nintendo squishes this game as it's not fan content, it's just exploitation of easily tricked minors and others who may be unable to know the difference.
Out of all the trash I've seen on the play store, stuff like this is always the worst.
If I remember correctly the Gardevoir animation got into my feed and many people in the comments were calling out the scam, the channel was promoting the game.
I think I found the game you were talking about but it has a different name and different company name but the previews are still the same the game is called pet tamer: evolve journey (early access)
It really sucks because when I saw the initial animation with the Gardevoir, I went “holy crap that’s my favorite Pokémon” (not for that reason you freaks), but just now, knowing this, it saddens me
ive been playing this game for a bit before seeing that video, yet it feels like the game you're describing is totally different from what ive been playing, even the name and discord is different
that darkrai animation in the surfshark ad tho🔥
I actually play a gatcha game that being yugioh duel links (i still wish someone archived all the dialog from past events) and it not only follows cappa it's also a ko-money official game
And also they basically tell you the odds of pulling the SR/UR by saying how many are left in the box you’re buying from
The one thing i dislike about duel links is them removing duel quizzes and loaner deck duels. I know theyre still there but i thought it was nice to have a way for new players to explore new archetypes they might want to try or a quick way to receive gems.
This game looks like if dragon ball legends and pokemon had a baby.
I feel like there is much more to do outside of Nintendo's grasp to officially stop this "phenomenon". Devs like these, pushing their limits between legal and Illegal movements, that could lead to more limitations on other devs, and even future devs, on what they can or can't do. For example, this could lead to Nintendo making the Pokémon IP have a lot more heavy copyright, which would not only affect developers of fan games that utalize characters from the IP (for example, a fan game that adds fakemon as well as offical Pokémon in a new or reimagined region), but could also affect a lot of people, who either has a character as the theme of their online identity (like me), or utalizes a personal character that is highly based off the copyrighted character. These scummy devs deserve extreme punishment, especially when they take something, like a light-ish copyrighted IP (I'm saying light-ish due to the ammount of fan games and content that utalizes the characters under the Pokémon IP), and put their money predatory perspectives onto young children, who are most likely the only people who would fall for it due to the lack of scam education, and have the chance to ruin the whole IP access restrictions for everyone else, especially the ones who make their games out of passion and dont expect much monitozation; I was planning to use a more heavy and harsh descriptive than "scummy", but I'd rather keep things PG, ans would only go as high as PG-13 depending on the content.
Honestly it’s weird how Nintendo is specifically targeting really great Pokémon fan games that aren’t malicious, but these ones go unoticed.
They have added many new pokemon, it is updated just like any gacha game, ofc the game want you to spend money but like i said, it is a gacha game.
I enjoy this game, i am F2P and I am far away from being like the other player spending money but still, i like this game, don't play it if u don't want to but, if children is playing a gacha game, anyone of them, then its the fault of the parents for not being careful of the doing of there children.
Sorry if my english is bad, it is not my first language
now if they took that 72 mil and put it towards a pokemon game, i'd be on board
You didn't have to roast my boy cryogonal like that 😔
The data at risk is pretty much nothing at all most of the times, happens a lot with games off the Playstore
I'm glad I mentioned this game to my friends after I found it last night because they sent me this video, it was the exact game under a different name, I thought it was neat but I was skeptical by how good the animations were, the second I found out they're asking to make phone calls on your behalf and steal your information, I deleted it, and the other app I played that was similar. Luckily for me, I chose to make my accounts with them with my side emails with passwords I use as link codes for dynamax adventures lmao! and I've never linked payment methods to my phone or the email account that I used, so they're SOL with me!
My little cousin is a professional PtW kid, and this is a very legitimate concern i have, as he has gotten crazy with it, and (kinda related, i think) has even hacked freaking Prodigy Math Game
I like Cryogonal, he's a cute yet angry little fella. :(
I saw an add for the game a couple days ago while scrolling TH-cam shorts, and thought that it was pretty sketchy and if anyone else would notice that the game exists. I'm glad that it's being addressed as a giant scam now.
TBH i think Nintendo wants take down this game because of their karma and the fact the creators of this game arent doing for love but rather money which is a reasonable choice but they could tolerate more the fans works like theres fans that make fan games with this quality only to show their love and nintendo pay them back with bans which is stupid
Welp, I’ve been playing it the last two months. I figured this was the case. Thankfully I haven’t spent much, only a little bit. Good thing I know this now, I will not spend anymore and I will be watching my money carefully.
As i understand it, the only REAL downdside as a consumer playing this game is the risk of data being stolen, because the rest of the argument i see here is being a "Gacha Game", but as far as i know, Pokemon Masters is ALSO a gacha game.