Why Zero 3 Is a Perfect Mega Man Game
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Halfway through the marathon! This time we a taking an in depth look at Mega Man Zero 3, showing how it refines and perfects everything the Zero Series has done up to this point as well as showing how it comes out on top of the entire Mega Man franchise as my favorite of all time!
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Clearing up some things in this video.
1. I had no idea about how to pronounce Weil since these games don’t have voice acting, I just have to make it up on the spot.
2. I said I thought the final boss was easy, not because of cyber elves, but because the weapons were just that powerful as is, like charging up a recoil rod and bouncing on Omega’s Head.
3. Does it really make a difference if Zero’s mind is a copy or the same? Either way it boils down to the fact that he has MMX Zero’s personality, and not the body which means nothing since the mind is what matters which is all I cared about, not the tiny details.
4. I wish the game stated that the Guardians died, would have closed their book more conclusively.
5. I have seen the fan made Zero vs Omega video, it’s excellent!
6. All these official remixes are from “Mega Man Zero mythos” or just Mega Man Zero remastered ost.
Well, the pronunciation of "Weil" is considered by most to be a German pronunciation based on Japanese naming trends and conventions. The actual Romaji is "Bai" "Ru", which immediately demonstrates the usage of the "B" sound in Japanese speech to mimic the "V" sound in European speech. Additionally, it's actually quite common for Japanese naming conventions to gravitate toward the European pronunciations of words shared throughout Germanic and English languages. For instance, if you see a character profile of a European or English character with a "J" name in English, you can almost guarantee that the Japanese text featured alongside the English text will present a "Y" pronunciation; easiest and most relevant example I can think of is "Julius" from Castlevania, with the Romaji for his name coming out to "Yu" "Ri" "Asu" I believe.
Anyway, I think the conversation more important to the average fan is: does this characters name imply anything about either Wily or Vava/Vile? While the similarity between the Japanese pronunciation of Weil and the English rename of Vile is almost certainly negligible, it's still at least a bit possible that "Weil" could be an intentional combination of "Vava" and "Wily". That being said, I would also have to say if this is the case, it's almost certainly more for storytelling purposes than any sort of literal implications. Although, if we take the idea of Wily's spirit using Repliroid bodies, as suggested by Isoc in X6, which is also the game that contains the first official part of the Zero series storyline, as well as looking at all the situations and contexts provided in just the first three Z games alone, it's not even a stretch to fit in a scene of ghost Wily finding a broken Vava, etc. I would add that the implication of the Zero series presenting the mirror image to the relationship between Light and X throughout the X series is certainly compelling. I think, ultimately, from a directorial standpoint, it was an intentional decision to present an element within the story that would inspire the sort of conversation I've tried to represent here amongst the fans.
i'd say the difference between zero being the original or a copy is important, after all you kill copy X in the first game, while X is still around, and they're fairly different personality wise, pretty much different characters.
plus it'd open the horrible horrible doors of "there may be a million copies of zero laying around" (memories of shadow the hedgehog intensify)
If you don't know, ask yourself; "How do you pronounce Dr. Wily?" And now, take away the "y"!
I guess this is a tiny detail for you and probably for everyone but I wanted to say this. It was said that Zero mind or brain was transferred away from his body cause they didn't want anything to go wrong with his mind and did that as a security measure while they were researching why the Sigma virus was acting differently for zero while analyzing his body for a possible anti-bodies which eventually lead to the Mother elf's creation. Skip forward during the elf wars Ciel's ancestor eventually made a copy of zero's body to help X fight Omega and end the war which after that Zero tried to seal himself again.
@@trentrider5985 Neat!
Id like to remind everyone that EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPEND IN THIS SERIES is a direct or indirect result of 1 scientist not being able to let go of a grudge
More like one MAD SCIENTIST thought that it would be fun to unleash unstoppably violent and psychopathic killing machine and cackle like a maniac when it kills everything it sees.
@@vksasdgaming9472 two mad scientists*
Uhh anything to do with what Wily wanted was stopped by the mother elf when it eradicated the maverick virus. Everything after had nothing to do with Wily.
@@lukaanderson8281 I think they were referring that this all started because of Wily, though true once the Mother Elf was created and the Maverick Virus was completely eradicated, it was because of Wily that this happened. Not sure if that makes sense but hopefully it does.
"Omg no those are my robots"
Japan Megaman Box Art: Manga
American Box Art: Anime Adaptation
European Box Art: Netflix Adaptation
Code Blaze Fate 4kids adaptation*
i dunno the castlevania adaptation is pretty fucking awesome
haven't watched season 2 yet though
+D MAS It's more of a meme that originated from criticism of the Death Note live action remake.
@@SQGReviewShow: so that would be some good and bad
-never watched death note but i still can't believe they turned his last name to turner but kept his first name as light-
@@dmas7749 Castlevania isn't an adaptation of a manga though, so that doesn't really contradict the pattern, although I would change "Netflix Adaptation" to "Live-Action adpatation" in general, as that would include the movie adaptations of Attack on Titan, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Bleach as well, which were equally atrocious.
"Make the final boss more powerful to accommodate how overpowered I am"
- Elf Murderer
Thank you XD I mean, I have never really done Fusion Elves (outside Save Files that I promptly reset and Zero 1 due to curiosity), and fine, I have the cheat I’d Save Files in the MyBoy emulator. But still.
EX Skills still destroy omega tho
The cyber elves come from enemies so they're probably technical enemy souls.
I love how the fight against Omega really closes the book on Wily once and for all as his final creation is not destroyed by one of Dr. Light’s creations but by his own rebelling against him
Weil and wily are completely different characters (shocking I know)
@@Sageknot they mean the body omega has being zeros
@@birdboy16 oh mb
It technically does not since Zero( the copy we use) has the original memory chip so eveb if his body is a fake, he still is Zero. After all when Zero was put back together in x2, that was a new body. It wasn't the original. Wily( aka Serges) created a new body for hin
@@Yokai_Yuri Yeah but Zero acts nothing like how Wily intended. The Zero Wily made was a psychopath as shown in x4
I have a secret to tell you. I didn't have a GBA so I... well... I really wanted to play the Zero games so I downloaded an emulator with the five games in their respective folders. So I played the first, liked it, then the second, liked it. The third one was amazing and couldn't wait to play the fourth. It was also incredible and that ending... Oh boy! I needed to see the conclusion to the epic story, so I finally open the fifth folder... just to find porn. I've never been so disappointed in porn in my life.
Mantosasto RIP
games >>>>>>>>> porn
lol
Ooooohhhhhhh....,that must’ve been so dissatisfying....and gross...
XD
The guardians actually die by the explosion caused by Omega's death, that's why they aren't on zero 4
It's just believed so. It may or may not be true.
@@thaneros It seems to be implied, but I don't know if it was confirmed or not.
Given the circumstances, it seems odd that they wouldn't stay with Zero considering that they just took a stand for him, and their absence from the next game seems *highly* coincidental if they aren't dead.
Wasn't X the only reason Zero survived?
@@thaneros Inafune confirmed it.
@@thaneros no it is confirmed in MMZ official complete works.
It's surprising how good Mega Man works when it basically turns into a Devil May Cry 2D platformer.
Wouldn't it be awesome if the made MMZ game in the same vein as DMC on the RE engine?
Ironic becuz zero is very much like sparda, both turned on their race, and sided with the humans,
And also zero has so much synergy with jam session and rapid slash in UMVC3 game, i kinda think weil stole sparda’s soul and used it as the basis for zero’s creation
And half of the time people wonder why I love the zero series compared to the x series, which I despise it's age of control.
... It appears I was spoiled
So kinda like DMC 3 for mobile.......... *but accually good*
Nobody will see this but my first megaman game was zero 3 and it was because of it that I grew in love with the whole Megaman franchise. I played it so much that I can consistently S-rank no damage every missions (except the final one because it's too damn long) and find every secrets by myself without any guide.
wow ur so cool
I have no idea how to avoid Cubit Foxtar attacks
I remember getting this as my only Christmas present one year and I was not disappointed.
I feel like the reason why Zero 3 lacks the star system (aside from the system being a bad gameplay mechanic), is because now that Zero has a stable place to be, he can just maintain his skills. In Zero 1, you could use the hyper sickness excuse Ciel mentioned to where he had to relearn his moves. Zero 2 could be explained through how tired he is and how he gave up everything to fight in that desert for a year. It's not a great explanation, but it's something I think about.
um, maintenance. That's why the star system existed. Zero had been asleep for 100 years, and machinery doesn't work at 100% at first after booting them up in a long time. Especially in a cold environment, which I'm assuming an underground lab with some water in it would be. And in Zero 2, he had been fighting for 1 whole year alone without undergoing proper maintenance
why i cant find this game on ipad :c
Slender gaming, because its a gba game and on iOS you need to download a gba emulator and use the ROM file of the game to play it, idk if there is an emulator on the appstore( last time i knew it was impossible without jailbreak to install any emulator) but you might check.
On android is as easy as it gets
I think it's more of a gameplay design, that the star system isn't really any necessary anymore with all the things you can obtain in the game (elves that don't degrade your rank, various chips, etc.)
@@slendergaming6651 lol because it would suck on IPad.
"Looks at video tittle" Ah a man of Culture
Did you just assume their gender
@Ian Lohan And the first use of the "man of culture" meme was 2015. Yet you chose to comment on mine, probably due to personal insecurities.
Is not true megaman zero is máster piece but megaman x5 is too much
title*
@Ian Lohan damn man get fucked lol
The European Megaman zero 3 art is there XD OMG I THOUGHT YOU WERE KIDDING
And its still there
Still... still there...
Still there
@Charicole10 Gaming MS PAINT
Still there
You know, there's a strangely poetic beauty to the way things worked out in the ending. Zero started as a force that far surpassed X who sacrificed himself so X could move forward, and if you got the best outcomes in X2 and X3 then Zero was revived by X and Zero again put himself in harm's way for X's sake. This back and forth between them was a constant theme up all the way to X6. Now we've come full circle with X having used whatever energy he had left to ultimately sacrifice himself for Zero to move forward.
Great video but you got the whole zero body a little mixed up
The Zero we play as IS zero, the same as the X series, when he first sealed his body so he could help stop the sigma virus his "mind" was removed to protect it (coud be considered the X6 ending route) then eventually around the Elf wars, Weil obtained the empty body and placed a new consciousness, Omega, inside it and then built the giant omega body around it. Zero's mind was placed in a new spare body (built by Ciel's ancestor) and helped X defeat Omega and banish him and Weil, after that. Zero decided to seal himself again, forever, this is how he ends up in the lab in the gba era, still in his spare body but with the very same soul inside him
I was just about to comment that, thanks for saving me the trouble.
I was just about to comment that, thanks for saving me the trouble (2)
But in the end, I did it anyway. xD
I was just about to comment that, thanks for saving me the trouble (3)
I was just about to comment that, thanks for saving me the trouble (4) (Hey I got the final game :v)
The game is designed to discourage you from using most of the powerups though. Any fusion elves you use permanently incur a penalty when you finish a level, so it's pretty clear they don't want you to use them. They're there if the game is too hard for you otherwise, and the result of using them is that the final boss becomes a pushover. This game has a lot of optional ways to make it easier and taking them really does do just that.
Yeah, this series as a whole designed around the speedrunning minimalist, as opposed to X where it was basically all but required for you to get some upgrades to survive.
I actually think you're just plain wrong there. Zero 3 *ENCOURAGES* the Elves. Why? Because all of those Fusion Elves you complain about not being allowed to use? You can still use them. A lot of the Fusion Elves that aren't one-time effects can be upgraded into Satellite Elves. All of the Life Up/Double Life ones, extra projectiles, move alterations, all that stuff can be tacked on and swapped out at any point.
You're only penalized if you just absorb all of the upgrades permanently. But when you can decide on a longer life bar or extra versatility *at any point* you have no excuse to dump them all on your body unlike the first two games unless you REALLY need those extra subtanks or the max double life bar (which is beyond overkill in any Zero game).
Final boss is a push over even without the upgrades. First 2 forms are jokes barely above the first Omega fight and Omega Zero just gives you too much room to run around considering the boss doesn't have a lot of moves for controlling space or enough movement to quickly and unpredictably get to the player. He's a lot stronger in Megaman ZX since they drastically reduced his recovery between moves, allowing him to more relentlessly attack and fill the screen with projectiles while rushing you down.
In my opinion that is one of the major problems with Zero series design. There are two mechanics in the game that completely conflict with each other: ranking system, and cyber elves.
The game features an expansive system of upgrades in the form of cyber elves and makes it a major selling point, yet at the same time promotes getting a high rank, which means not using cyber elves at all. Game basically says "here is a new cool system to play with; however, I really don't want you to use it and I will slap you if you do".
In Zero 1 at least because ranking gave no direct reward one could kind of ignore it and just use whatever (though because cyber elves were grindy as hell one wouldn't be able to use a lot of them anyway). But the problem became more severe in Zero 2 when they introduced EX skills. One system of upgrades negates access to the other one, the other one requires not using the first one... borderline idiotic. Zero 3 continues the same problem, although the nice addition of satellite elves which do not damage the ranking slightly circumvents the problem. Though we still have this ~woo cyberspace woo, look how cool it is~ which the game added, yet punishes the player for using any of those (also, data discs can't be found while in cyberspace, which is silly)!
In my opinion, Zero 3 handled this as perfectly as it could. Taking the easy way out and using methods to permanently use upgrades or temporarily become a friggin' god chipping away at your rank being balanced by being allowed to always swap out which ever abilities you wanted at a certain time. It's like DMC's ranking system, only a less lenient in that it's more temporary boosts like healing items that damage your rank instead of permanent upgrades.
My personal opinion, though...the fact that permanent upgrades keep a permanent mark on your Elf score does counter-act the system. If you wanted a high rank file, actually using the permanent upgrades bricks your run just because you wanted the bigger health bar or sub tank.
Hell, I forget if these two are still in 2+3, but there are two 3rd level Elves in one that, on top of the Nurse double HP gives you permanent double defense and a permanent spike blocker to cover up many spike traps. That's QUADRUPLE HP and removing spikes, but if you dare use them, you can't New Game Plus a full set of S Ranks.
I mean, I guess it's fair to not have Ultra Easy mode let you get S Ranks that way, but it's an equal punishment to just having 4 more HP as it is the double HP, which seems unfair. If they were gonna have permanent upgrades hurt your rank all the time, *let us turn them off* and give us a measurement of how many points we lose with them on. Heck, as a totally random comparison, Forza Motorsport tells you exactly how much bonus or negative credit you get by turning certain assists on or off or adjusting the difficulty. We should know ahead of time how much we lose going in with certain upgrades and be allowed to turn them off without having to start all over.
Although the funny thing about all this is despite seriously NEEDING them in Zero 1 more so than the other games and despite grinding them being so much of a pain in the ass that finally getting to wreck everything might not even feel satisfying...Rank does nothing but let you get the single useless Elf behind Ciel in the mission room. All that effort for the ranking system and that first game just makes it bragging rights.
02:58 That is one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a long while.
10:03 You know what I wish they did in this scene to make it heavier? Make the named reploids other that the transporters come into the scene. Imagine how terrible it would've been to have Servo and Andrew raise guns against them, or even have Alouette come in to denounce them. Man...
13:56 Dammit. I love this story so much. Tears come from my eyes anything anyone adequately summarizes it.
15:37 Die. The word you're looking for it "die". They apparently died in the Omega Explosion. I know. It's a copout. I forgot the reason why the writer did that.
23:56 Yeah, cyberspace negatively affects your rank. Except in the phantom situation.
Team Dusk They wrote out the guardians because Zero 4 wasn’t going to be a thing, but when fans demanded it, they didn’t have any ideas for what the Guardians would even DO.
The three guardians die 0_0 well fuck
Also the ultimate mode of this game is just the best power fantasy where you can keep your rank compared to zero 2 which only gave you it as an armor.
If i remember correctly the 4 guardians were killed in the omega explosion, the lore reason was that with Neo-arcadia in the hands of Dr. Weil they could stage a coup against him knowing all the backstage action that hapenned with him. Also Zero himself only survived because the mother elf escaped with him.
The Guardians allegedly survived Z4 and helped the evacuation, but by ZX the rule that every Biometal holds the original Soul/Cyber Elf of every one of the 6 heroes killed them off (and confirmed Zero's death) be default.
I would like to take the time to mention that back when Zero 3 was in development, the team had every intention to give Omega Zero the X series body, but due to time constraints from Capcom, this never came to be and we were left with a recolor of Zero.
Really? This answers things. Can you give the source?
@@loispasion6839 Yeah I have heard the devs say it was an art style change. Not saying anyone is a liar.
The Zero 3 ending brought tears to my eyes.. after so many eons, after being on the edge of our seat waiting for X to make a psychical return.. but because he used so much energy protecting those he cared for and the longevity of mankind.. we see what we all feared would happen.. X's time fighting has come to an end. In my headcannon.. i wanna believe that X Continues on in the Cyberworld, unable to communicate out of it due to him using so much of his remaining Psychical energy. For now.. until ZX comes into play.. X Can finally rest.. knowing Zero has the heart and strength to continue fighting this battle not just for X but for humanity and reploids alike, fighting for everlasting peace.
I enjoyed this MMZ series and it still sits as one of my top favorites.
That being said, I think back and laugh at Weil trying to make Zero hesitate destroying Zero because if you think about how often Zero throws himself into danger and winds up wrecking his body just give his allies an opening through out his career. "Attachment" to his original body would be the last thing on his mind vs the thought of being his actual self and allies.
zero series is hands down th BEST megaman series, and zero 3 is perfect!
Rockman X is the best Rockman series.
tie between X and Zero and maybe the original zx (ZX advent was a let down)
I’m one of the rare fans, I prefer the classic series over them all.
@@justawhiteman.8550
X1 is good. It's cool. Others are bad.
X2 is a letdown.
X3 is a cash grab.
X4 is a nursery rhyme.
X5 is a walking simulator.
X6 is an endurance test.
X7 is barely functional.
X8 is not a Mega Man game.
@@mohdadeeb1829 it's more like:
X1 is a masterpiece
X2 is a good game, but super easy and short
X3 is flawed but enjoyable
X4 is great
X5 is a two pack of ass
X6 is terrible
X7 is horrible
You're right about X8, but I'll take it over X5-7
Yes. Yes. YES.
Yes it is.
Zero 3 is so wonderful, such a shame that not a lot of people played it.
>Not a loot of people have played it
Zero 4 would have never existed if that was the case. The serie as a whole was and is still is pretty popular.
I see a Zero Collection re-release on the 3DS and HD remastered on consoles. So far we got the Classic and X collection re-release. Maybe the Zero series is next
It's pretty weird seeing so many console purists considering it's freaking uncomfortable to play on console and I just don't have time to deal with consoles. MMZ being portable and focused around speedruns is super neat 'cause as a kid I could boot it up between classes or during lunch.
Mega Man as a whole is now a cult following nowadays all these people nowadays only care about fortnite and shooters... shame to they are missing out on classic series, X Series, Zero Series, ZX, Legends, Battle Network and Starforce. I mean Starforce wasnt amazing but it was still okay
I played it and sitll prefer Zero 1 and all X games. Bosses in Zero 3 are boring, no charismatic chars like the guardians. reused bosses from past games, Copy X the exact same boss, just 2 fortress stages , 2 times baby elves as bosses , one of the worst bosses ever. The game is too easy, the only thing I like is the final boss Omega with 3 forms.
Meanwhile in ZX
*mavericks attack again*
Vent: Wheres the mother elf when u need her -_-
lol
But vent, you don't have a mom.
I'm sorry.
@@shade159 oof
@@shade159 🚪
I heard that they wanted the final Omega fight to be this really epic battle, especially the second stage where he was supposed to be fought as this gigantic mecha sized boss instead of just a torso sticking up through the floor. Unfortunately, gba limitations resulted in what we got.
Everyone buy 100 copies of Luminous Avenger iX when it comes out so Inti Creates has the money to independently license Zero from Capcom and remake the entire series on Switch
@@GastricProblemsHaver I like the way you think lil gay person in my screen
@@crazyfistx2502 dam right im gay...
@@GastricProblemsHaver I'm gayer, boom I win
@@GastricProblemsHaver sadly it won't happen, Capcom dropped the ball really hard on Megaman Series that it will be extremely costly to recover (make a AAA Megaman game with DMC5 tier gameplay and graphics)
Just a quick recap. Zero's new design is canon. Dr. Weil stated that he upgraded Zero's body. And in that timeline reploids had been streamlined to looked more human then they did before. Also it Ceil's ancestors had managed to finally figure out how to analyze Zero and X's body which was something that couldn't be done in the X series.
I think Dr. Weil did not have expertise enough to upgrade Zero's original hardware, but certainly had enough skill to repair its damage and restore personality to its default setting: KILL. Maybe to add some safeguard just to stop it from killing him as well. Ciel had enough skill to replicate X's hardware, but it happened after Elf Wars which are perhaps most
@@vksasdgaming9472 according to weil himself he did have the expertise and all he did was upgrade Zero's body which is true because enhancements had to be made to be able to sync with the mother elf. But Weil and Ceil's ancestors where the ones who finally figured out how to scan X and Zero's bodies completely and figure out how they worked. That was actually what made Zero and X so difficult. But Zero's new copy body was stated to be a near perfect copy. Due to the energy crisis Zero probably lacked Bassinum which was an infinite energy source so they probably couldn't make an exact copy. But yeah Zero wasn't a mystery anymore.
also they do explain why there is a boss rush weil is a scientist who specializes in reploid resurrection so he just worked his magic on the bosses from this game and from zero 1
superior rhyperior
And again, necromacess resurrected himself for I think the 6th canonical time.
@@xuanathan TBF, his whole thing is being a necromancer mummy.
The Zero 1 boss rush is still a mystery, though
Ware wa Meshi a Nari! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GODDAMN IT!!! YOU TOOK MY LINE!!!!
People that play zx start freaking out
ITS JUST MESSIAH YOU WEEB ITS AN ENGLISH WORD.
I AM THE MESSIAH!
@Some Guy They would’ve made it sound more like messiah if that was the case.
I had the biggest grin ever when I read that title. Glad to see that the zero 3 appreciation train is still going strong.
Harpiua is actually a great character. His design and character growth is awesome.
Haven't watched the video but I wholeheartedly agree with the title.
Maverickblackzero Same here. This game is so under appreciated.
Zero 3 is definitely the best of Zero games, and is one of my favorite Mega Man games, up there with the first X game, Mega Mans 3, 7, and 11, IMO. It just gets so much right, and the stuff it gets wrong can be easily overlooked.
Hub Pie Couldn’t agree more, zero 3 is a masterpiece and while not my favorite megaman game (megaman X5 and megaman 7) it’s story and gameplay made me happy I experienced this.
Haven't played it yet, but is Mega Man 11 really THAT good? If so, I'm really looking forward to it.
@@Yuxkta I believe that while looking at Mega Man 11 from a critical stance, it's the third best one out of the classic series, surpassed only by Mega Man 7 and Mega Man 9, respectively. The music, the gear system, and the 2.5D effect might turn some people away, but it more than makes up for it in its well crafted levels and its nicely done mechanics.
Also, the boss fights. Hands down the best set of bosses from the entire classic series. There's not a single bad one in the entire game (Block Man might be the weak link, but he's still not bad at all).
I certainly recommend getting Mega Man 11 if you enjoy the classic Mega Man series or 2D platforming games in general.
@@pmorken6162 I've added it to my "to play list", thanks mate
Q&A excerpt of the Zero 3 remastered tracks CD
Sound crew interview:
Suzuki (Character Designer): Up till now, we've been answering the questions, but now we have one for the sound team. What you tell us about the speech of Omega's third form?
Yamada (Sound Director): It's "Ware wa messhia nari!" ["I am the messiah!"] It certainly sounds like that "I am God" kind of speech, something a terrorist or anarchist or someone like that would say, doesn't it? I think that's the kind of impression we we're trying to give. It's not the speech by itself alone that holds significance, however, if you could express Omega's brutality and ferocity and everything into one line, that's what it would be, right! By the way, what's the creation story behind the personality of Omega form three?
Yabe (Background Designer): Omega form 3's personality program (cyber-elf), was programmed by Vile to be his messiah. Though, as to Omega form 3's...Original Zero's personality being completely Vile-made, I couldn't say that.
Ito (Series Director): I can't deny the possibility that the original personality that "a certain doctor who tried to take over the world innumerable times" created for Zero was remaining in the body, and that side of the personality having won over.
Yabe: I guess we're entrusting everyone to use their imagination (he laughs).
Just going to add that Vile is the Japanese name for dr Wiel
His name was changed to avoid confusion with that other Vile
These reviews have something special. Everytime I see J review a Mega Man game... A certain sense of happiness hits me. This review alongside some of J's other reviews are so well made that by the time I reached the end of the video... I was crying tears of joy!! And if J's video can make me cry like that on multiple occasions... Then that says how talented he is at making videos. You are an AMAZING storyteller J! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the heart J!
🔥
Can’t wait to play this bad boy when the collection comes to the Switch
Out of all the Megaman Zero series games, Megaman Zero 3 is the best.
It got me fully invested that it made me
-get all S ranks in all missions(that means no fusing any Cyber Elves until the final stage to ensure that I get that sweet S ranking)
-collect(and evolve) all cyber elves(Pokemon style)
-collect all abilities(which is easy because getting S or A rank grants you the ability of the boss of that stage)
-collect all secret disk(the secret battle against Phantom though, whack!)
I still remember my favorite set up
Quick Charge Head chip(Auto charge ruins my momentum whenever I just wanna dash and slash enemies)
Normal Body chip(to keep that nice red color)
Ultimate foot chip(obviously, the most broken part of all)
And the final Boss Omega, ohh its a blast to go against him.
Omega is more aggressive and annoying in ZX though, he is faster, always trying to get close and if you manage to get some distance, he fucking heals himself!
Nevertheless, Megaman Zero 3 is the best of all 4 Megaman Zero games.
I hate Megaman Zero 1 though, its full of grinding in a game that shouldnt be focused on grinding. I was forced to take on and clear the final stage with literally no enhancement on my body parts nor any cyber elves to aid me. I did beat Copy X but with only 1 hp left.
Ironically, the X chip was the counter against Omega Chip in ZX.
Kinda was short range fighters have a hard time against omega in ZX but he's more fun to fight thanks to the speed buff
I also beat Copy X and with it Zero 1 without any elves and A rank in every stage. I still have a photo of the screen as well as some nightmares.
My favorite body chip is the one that removes recoil, since it is not only the most useful in my opinion but also turns Zero dark gray, which I view as Zero 3’s version of the Black Armor.
In hindsight, Copy X wasn't actually very difficult even with no upgrades. The main issue was the amount of pressure from the design of the boss stage causing you to mess up a lot. It's super trivial in comparison to Gunvolt's final boss, especially with the conditions for the true ending.
Also I found that Model ZX was the easiest to beat Omega with. Mostly because I got REALLY good at pressing any combination of buttons at any time so I was prepared for anything he could dish out and could kill him faster than he could kill me.
I finished this series when I was around 7-11 years old. Only MMZ3 gave me that eerie feeling. I am still determining how I went through this series without using elves and extra stuff at that age. It was the JP version, and I couldn't understand anything. I even had trouble figuring out how to save the game.
Inafune's attempt to make Zero the coolest hero as much as possible, at peak at Z3, is just criminal. Especially when that body is just a copy yet able to kick so many butts, that's skill.
Correction, we play as the real Zero just in another body, they made a replica of his body not his mind
Tecnically the first and real Zero's mind is the crazy one who wrecked Sigma, so yeah, Omega IS the real Zero
Da Maverick Blast nope
The cognitive program is pure zero.
Zero body .... how many time did he blow those up :))
But set the joke aside, no, omega zero is not zero. Weil stole the body and write a different cognitive progam names Omega. Omega is less talking, but after his elf wars battle, he was defeated by zero, this is why in the game, the word he could say is zero. Also he has god complex.
What a cheap copy.
Also, in elf wars, zero cognitive part was remove from the body, ancestress of ciel study from it to create Mother elf. She was also the one rebuild zero body...... lel
Their heritage: always looking for zero when they have trouble :))
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Omega thinks he is the Messiah, not the god. The one with god complexes are Not!Spider and Albert from Megaman ZX
Zero wasn't talkative too, he just scramed and laughed while fighting with Sigma, just like Omega does fighting against Resistance Zero
Keji Inafune stated that Omega is Zero
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"Dr.Wily created Zero and Weil used Zero, but ultimately it was a copy of Zero's original body with a different mind that defeated him"
Also in the CD drama, Zero says "after fighting against myself..."
@@maverick5169 "A copy of Zero's original body". Yeah, everyone knows that the body Zero uses in MMZ is a copy of his original body, but his mind it's still the original one. It was removed from the original body while the scientists start to study it and created the Mother-Elf. And then Ciel's ancestor to make a new body for him to fight on the Elf-Wars.
@@GiroTakamishi
Zero's original mind is the crazy one (Mmx4 flashback) and Zero states that he fought against himself, referring to Omega. Also Keji Inafune said that Dr Weil used *Zero*
It's the creator's words against yours.
TITLE IS PERFECT
*Ten-thousandth (and six-hundredth) viewer*
Other Mega Man games than can be considered the strongest (or even close) are Mega Man (normal series) games (excluding Mega Man 6-8), Mega Man X games like the original and Mega Man X4 and the Mega Man games for the DOS (I couldn't kid more).
At least we can agree on something about Megaman franchise. I'm in the minority who doesn't like MM2 and MMX
@@kieranstark7213 battle network is also good
@@TheMegaultrachicken IKR!
From all of the Zero 3 cover artworks, TH-cam Gaming had to choose the worst one, no wonder why it has been shut down.
Almost a year later and the TH-cam gaming icon for Zero 3 STILL hasn't been repleced.
I see TH-cam's still as incompetent as ever.
The title of the video is saying what I was saying for years. It even beats Megaman X IMHO.
Btw. the Guardians canonically die at the end of Zero 3, because the Mother Elf didn't save them for whatever reason (Zero 3 was supposed to be the last game of the series and that's sort of a plothole).
Also, it isn't official that Omega (the new personality in Zero's old body) is actually the Zero Wily intended to create all those years ago. It would make sense, but it's still a fan theory, he could as well be a new creation by Dr. Weil
Zero 3 most likely has the best stage tracks, but as much as I ADORE Cannonball, Judgement Day, My Fellow and Everlasting Red (Credits Track), Theme of Zero - X, the Legend - Area of Zero, Departure/Awakening Will and Straight Ahead - Falling Down - Esperanto/Holy Land in Zero 1,2,4 are also absolutely amazing, so they don't stand out that much.
Going to Cyberspace pretty much ruins your rank, yeah (except that one time when you can fight against *******). But do you know what doesn't effect your rank? Satellite elves! One health bar extension and one regenerator made A rank SOOOO much easier than in Zero 1 and 2.
That's stupid.
Why the fuck would they just "die" like that?
Because Omega explodes. Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense. Some fanart showed the Guardians as Cyber Elves watching over Zero in Zero 4, but Inafune officially stated not even that is canon, so they basically disappear. IMO the one big flaw in the narrative of Z4.
It even beat X4!
And for while Mother elf didn't save them....Well the Guardian protect Zero from explosion, so they take the full force while still heavily damage after their first fight with Omega. In audio book , it say that both Fafnir and Leviathan are in coma for the entire story until near the end when X wake them up and sent them to help Zero.
Zero 3 was going to be the end of the series. It was essentially gonna be left like the classic and X series essentially incomplete. But Zero 3 was so huge, its story was so popular even if it didn't sell and Dr. Weil was so hated that the public demanded that Dr. Weil be killed off and the Zero series reached a conclusion. So Capcom was forced to create Zero 4 as a grand finale.
I finally have context for that "Zero vs Omega Zero decisive battle" video from years ago! The story for MMZ1-3 review has been pretty good so far.
Also: CANNONBALL!!!
Thank you so much for voicing just about EVERYTHING I love about the Zero series so far, especially Zero 3. It brings me so much joy to see someone bringing some exposure to this series, despite its infamous flaws. I look forward to the 4th game's review :)
Z3 was my first entrance into the mega man series, I loved it.
And cannonball is my jam
I’m rewatching these reviews to get me more hyped for the zero zx legacy collection
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Me personally, I can use both type B and C with no issues. I think it’s more natural to use type B since you don’t have to click a separate button to change the weapon. It feels like a permanent move for Zero that way. But I can use type C too.
By far, my favorite Megaman game! Great story, fantastic gameplay, and the peak of Zero as a character. No joke, this game inspired my life. Those of you who have been through hard times and had that one video game know what I'm talking about.
Mega Man Zero European Cover Art : *exists*
J: *DELET THIS!!!*
man dude benching your zero playlist, as someone who played the games as they came out way back in my elementary school days, I keep being surprised how recently you played them, but again overwhelmed with joy that people are still enjoying these great games even to this very day! Amazing job on the videos man.
This video gives me such chills because you absolutely nailed this review. You did such a great job and this is literally my childhood game. I still play all of the Megaman Zero series till this day. Everything about it was absolutely stunning.
Bruh I love mega man zero 3 for real :) it was so hard and amazing bro.
I don't think it's entirely fair to complain the bosses are easy when you went out of your way to make them so by using elves, which the game already punishes you for. They are balanced towards players trying to always keep a high rank, not brute forcing.
Good review still, just think sometime you should try playing with an A or higher rank on each stage (Or on hard mode). It's a very different exeperience.
I’m sure it is, but that’s just the experience I had. Mainly bosses were made easy by EX skills and chips, with or without elves backing me anyway.
To be fair it's very counter-intuitive to give you so many ways to power up and then punish you for using said power-ups with low rank and bosses that weren't balanced around a strong player character.
You don't get punished for equipping Satellites. Only Fusion activations or permanent boosts from said Fusions.
(I think Cyberspace hurts your Average rank, I forget)
@@UltimaKeyMaster Yes, I meant fusion elves. Cyberspace reduces your score by 10 (or 15, I forget too), except in the stage where you need it to fight Phantom.
@@Martial_Autist It's not so counter-intuitive if you actually understand the type of game you're playing. This is an action platformer, a game that rewards skill, not an RPG. The game even makes it clear that killing elves is bad.
This is one of the VERY FEW videos where J never grunts painfully
but of course, that's because this is that MASTERPIECE
What I like about MMZ's story is that it's dark, but never to the point you stop caring about the setting or characters.
No mention of the combo system? It was one of my favorite things Zero 2 introduced, and Zero 3 expands on it to make the bosses so much more fun to fight than in the previous games.
Your in depth reviews are awesome! I also have awesome memories of this game. All those little details you mentioned made me fall in love with this game. Looking forward to playing it again.
Something you missed out on, especially notable because you talked about the bosses being somewhat lackluster, is that literally all of them gain new moves if you have an A rank or over. It's a pretty major deal, and massively encourages replaying for higher ranks on top of the already awesome EX skills.
Yup, omega in this game isn't up to the difficulty standard. But man, wait till you find him in zx
Zero 3's image is cursed hahahaha.
YESS IVE WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG I appreciate all your commentary on my favorite game of all time
they still have the EU artwork for the game in the description, never replaced it. Why??
I'd have to disagree with the music, Zero 2 definately takes the cake for me. I feel the composition, arrangement and groove with Zero 2's music was just on point. Silver Wolf, Sand Triangle, Ice Brain, Passionate, Flash Back and of course my favourite, Gravity. It just triumphs the more midi flat sounding songs of 3. I do love Old Life Space and Reborn Mechanics of 3 though, they're more groovy and have a good sound but I don't think even those compare to 2's gold.
Love your work fam.
Intermission >>>>>>
It's hard to beat Departure and Awakening. The way I've always viewed it is 2 has some of the best songs in the series bar none, but 3 is the best overall soundtrack.
@@ZeroX7649 Each to their own, I find 3 has some good tracks here and there but I always come back to 2 as a whole. A lot of 3 just lacks groove in many places where 2 would've delivered.
All of 2's First, second and third set of stages slap hard where most of 3's like WaterCity, Volcano, Endless Fight, Pandemonium just often feel like they could've been developed a bit more.
Will give it Cannon Ball tho, that does seal the top of the can nicely but I can't say what I consumed beats 2.
Amazing review! This brings back so many good memories I had when I played this game... Thanks J!
This is my favorite Megaman game of all time. Great story, great gameplay, improvements from Zero 1/2 all around, great soundtrack, Just great.
CANNNNOOONNN BALLLSSSS
These reviews enlightened me on the series. I've always had hate for these games because of how hard they were. I played 1-4 years ago and it just wasn't anything like the X series. But now that you cleared up what these games are truly like, I'm all for it! I need to play these with a new light.
2:58 You got me on the floor with how you went "theydidntevencomeclose"
pretty good video, it made me want to replay the megaman zero series yet again, will see the rest of the videos since I started on this one
You're making me want to play the DS complete collection again... Will you be covering Azure Striker: Gunvolt since it's by inti creates and very similar to MegamanZero?
Admit it, you just want to hear J sing that song.
The first GV game is inherently very different from MMZ in a ton of ways sadly, but the second adds Copen as a playable character, who is the Zero to Gunvolt's X, except more adversarial I guess
Copen even gets a few melee sub weapons
@@GastricProblemsHaver copen is more like megaman x as he gets to copy his dead enemies power while gunvolt is more like Zero, he inproves on his skills rather than copy his defeated foes abilities.
@@sethrenegade3533 As far as I remember, copen don't copy every enemy septima he fights.
SPOILER, look if you already played the Gunvolt games or just don't care about spoilers.
If I'm not wrong, copen made the Spark Stellar by "looking" the azure striker septima after fighting Gunvolt and Asimov. I don't think he could replicate everything since he lost the fight and got out before Asimov fights Gunvolt.
because if that was the case, he could actually even use the azure striker against gunvolt since he said he had some data from him. Greeding snatcher is kinda an example I think. He uses a bullet fused with carrera's septima.
The Mega Man Zero series had some of the best music capabilities of a gba game
Geesus, I keep coming back to your Megaman reviews, they're just so great to listen/watch! Keep up the good work, dude! =D
I can't ever unsee that box art. Thank you, J.
Loving these Megaman Zero reviews, see you next week!
When I’m listening to any version of Cannonball it makes me cry.
Just hearing that song makes me think of X’s death scene wich is in my opinion the saddest moment in the Mega man series.
X is my favorite character in the series and one of my favorite video game characters of all time so seeing him go was just heartbreaking.
R.I.P Megaman X
MMZ3 is also the one i would go to.. the challenge of not using the cyber elves apart from the ones that give you abilities.. The Omega battle is a lot harder when you do a no elf run.. it not only helps with the odds of unlocking all EX skills and the saber EX skills are just worth studying the bosses and trying a no damage run to get them..
MMZ games made me get attached to inti created for life.
I have a biased towards Mega Man zero 2 as that's the one that I've owned for the longest and put endless amount of hours into so I remember more but watching this, I can see why so many loved 3 so much and I have to agree. The gameplay is a step up, the soundtrack is on par with 2 and exceeds it in some areas and the story is once again fantastic. The new customisation is a great addition as well. Great review J, looking forward to what you think of 4. Also, for anyone who hasn't done so already, look up "Zero vs Omega: Decisive Battle". It's a fan sprite movie of the ending of MMZ3 and it is well made. It even has the best rendition of Cannon Ball as well.
Yes it was a very cool fan made scene
i remember zero 2 more because of the hard mode, and the mental damage it caused.
@@thefool8224 I still haven't tried hard mode this entire time. I think it due to the fact that I took a break after going for an 100% run with only playthrough (except for getting the Ultimate Form and maxing out all elves). I planned to come back and do those but I guess I just forgot
I find it funny how Megaman Zero 3 and Megaman Battle Network 3 all share the same let-downs and amazing ideas. They even both have a dissapointing final boss and were both intended to end their respective series.
Also, Starforce 3 has the best final boss out of any game. Fight me.
I preferred 2's final boss personally. It didn't have the spectacle of 3, but it felt more like a conclusion to me.
I have so been enjoying these reviews of the Mega Man Zero games! I can't wait to see the next one in part 4 and I REALLY can't way for ZX!
One of the best childhood games I have ever played, and the ending is extremely epic
My head canon is the star system was Zero reacquainting himself to his Z Sabre after 100 years of inactivity, by the 3rd game he was as adept as ever.
Ahhh my all time favorite game. Another great review. Now for some more comments:
Cyber space docks out mission points from your score.
For the most part, in this game the bosses dont flinch from being hit with element weakness. The recoil rod charge attack however knocks them back a bit and takes that role regardless of element so you can make the other no element robot masters flinch.
As much as i love the lore it covers, fuck Volteel Biblio's RNG of madness stage. The sunken library is way too short and finding the rooms is kind of a chore with the locator computer not being reliable enough to pinpoint the exact room.
Cyber elves and subtanks make all the games very easy
One thing i realy really wished was touched on, though i dont blame you, is the combo system in the game. It is a major part of what drastically spikes the difficulty up and down in the series aside from elves and subtanks.
I disagree on the boss designs. They are probably among the most fast and consistently active bosses ive fought in the series, forcing you to dodge in a variety of ways.
Combos are more streamlined in this game and onward. You can for example combo charge saber slash into rod 1000 slash ex skill or combo the rise slash into down slash after a saber combo. All if these can instantly make short work of the bosses when done right. On top of elemental weaknesses too? Oof. They are satisfying and part if why i love this game. That is why in this game, your low health is kinda fair. Just as you can die in a matter of seconds so can the bosses. Example. I can kill Childre, the rabbit ice boss within 8 seconds just with 2 combos and flame chip.
The guardians are confirmed in the mmz official complete works to have been killed in the explosion.
You do in fact play as the real zero but with his mind being transferred into another body until the issue with the maverick virus creeping in his old body has been dealt with. Weil (pronounced Vile) stole it and placed his own created Omega AI to take control of it as he was alway interested in his body.
Omega's ginormous body was made for the Elf Wars to contain the dark elf and mind control all the reploids. It made him sturdier but slower.
Omegas second form is gundam sized while zero is just an ant in comparison. It wouldve had more attacks like using its colossal saber but the GBA could not handle it due to hardware limits.
The creator of the Dark turned Mother Elf was Ciel's ancestor. And if people still dont know , Cyber elves are enhancement programs designed to help humans and reploids but with a personality and some sentience.
As for the soundtrack i find it hard to judge them by game. I rather feel they deserve to be rank by individual tracks. MMZ one is probably the weakest in that department while having some memorable pieces, but 2-4 each have ones that rank all too similarly that i cant just pick one game.
What i kinda like is the detail where Ciel move away from the transporter when Zero is about to do his mission
Great review J, I was especially excited when you put Sunken Library on the best songs list. I love that song
Something I found frustrating about the cyber elves is how they lower your rank when you use them, meaning you are getting punished for using power ups that are a core element of the game. And also, the fact that they die after getting used is pretty cruel.
The satellite elf system in Z3 allows you to use certain ones with no penalization at all. And the cyberspace system implies that elves don’t truly die, they retire to another dimension after not being physically tangible anymore. That’s pretty much what happens to X until his AI gets stuffed in Model X.
Sorry for commenting to much. I just had a lot to say about the game.
And now the Zero Legacy Collection should be coming out in 2020! Good timing since I bought MegaMan X Legacy Collections 1-2 yesterday
Good for people who dont have the Games. I have all at home Soo... I dont care
This... this was my intro to megaman.. this amazing piece of art, I loved every single moment of it
What a wonderful and satisfying review. I really loved your enthusiasm about all the concepts of this amazing game.
And I agree about the final boss phases, I like the concepts but the nostalgia overload didn't clicked but I recommend to everyone to try this series... (My favorite is MMZero 4 doh, I can't wait for the review :3)
Who else got zero vs omega zero decisive battle vibes
Someone else found out about the terrible MMZ3 box art!
To me It sucks being a Megaman fan in the UK, it feels like people have this 'What are you talking about' expression when i mention how great the series is. I guess that's reflected in the box art, the artist drawing Zero had this 'What are you talking about' expression.
Loved this game as a kid and it still holds up
Zero 3 is what got me into it. This game is amazing.
yeahhh i think you got the zero body story plot point mixed up. pretty sure his mind was taken out of the original omega body and placed in the new zero body we play as in the game meaning we are playing the original zero but in a copy body not the omega body
Yeah that's what actually happend in the story. Zero didn't succumb to the virus, Weil stole his body to make Omega but his conscience was recovered and was put in a copy of his body so he could fight beside x one more time in the elf wars
@@xFer9 His conscience was removed so scientists could study his body to create a cure for the maverick virus since Zero's body was the source of the original virus (hence why the Maverick/Zero Virus never turned him maverick and only made him stronger). Once the elf wars started and Zero's body was stolen, scientists created a copy of Zero's body to put his conscience back in.
@@DuskChill yeah i kinda got the details mixed right there, sorry about that
I would like to disagree on ONE point: Megaman 3 was really innovative in comparison to Megaman and Megaman 2. Not only do you slide, but also skull robots with redesigned levels.
I have never seen someone talk about megaman zero with such passion. God, I loved those games so much, they made my childhood back in the day.
Your videos have improved a lot over the year.
I wouldn't say omega zero as the last boss is easy. Sure, you can use every cyber elf and sub tank to beat him and make it really easy, but this is like beating the elite four in any pokemon game with the legendary you catch. You can make it easy or hard in your own choice. (omega in zx is a beast with almost the same attack patterns)
Although, Omega is way worse in ZX. He is way more aggressive, constantly dashing until he is near you and likes to close off the screen with projectiles. He performs his 7 hit combo attack more often and rekohha heals him.
@@NovaBlazerZX pls, I try to forget about those nightmares...
I mean, pokemon leagues are exploitable with certain non legendary mons
@@Timcool306 i don't, because man are those nightmares cool. his low double dash scared the hell out of me.
Omega!Z still takes a lot of damage from the triple slash, though.
Not sure how he fares on hard mode. I still haven't finished the second set of bosses (and I'm S-ranking the game so yeh).
this is easily my second favorite Megaman game behind X4
Sean Reviews They’re both my favorite. I can’t pick one over the other. They’re just that fun
God I love that ending theme, and I'm glad you do too. Just wanted to say that I loved the review, keep up the good work man
Excellent review dude! Can't wait for the next one and hopefully one of these days you'll do reviews on the legends, battle network, and starforce series