Wltoys 124019 RTR RC Buggy 1/12 2.4G 4WD, Rebuild & Modify - Pt. 2
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- I'm rebuilding the Wltoys 124019 RTR RC Buggy 1/12 2.4G 4WD to make sure it is reliable. It is the next gen 144001. I will be doing incremental modifications such as motor swaps, suspension changes, and advanced electronics. I may even be doing some speed runs with a slick aero body to see how fast I can make this car go. There will be numerous videos for this buggy!
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I've got this amazing RC car from WL toys it cost £110 and it came with 3 Li-po batteries well worth the money they are so funny to play with
These cars are a great way to get started in the RC hobby. It's a good place to start while you acquire the various tools, and skills needed before moving on to better kits. It's also a great place to start if you're not sure you want to make a larger investment or if you want to move on to competing in RC car racing.
Got this for my son, we love it, I've just ordered the 124017 v2 with 3 batteries for myself, need to find where to get spare parts to UK???
A few days ago I decided I wanted a budget friendly first Rc car that preforms well. So I googled it and found these watched a bunch of videos and ordered a 124018 the next night. I’m sure it’ll fast enough for now but I really like that it can be upgraded and faster later on and still be budget friendly.
I have not even finished the video ....had to stop and say thanks. I just bought me one and it's a blast. My 1st RC...car..no tools or anything.
Congratulations and welcome to the hobby! There are a lot of great and welcoming people in this hobby and you're sure to have a good time. Thank you for watching. And, feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'll do my best to help.
Regards,
CJ
Thank you for giving us newbies some good standards to follow. Very thorough & informative!!
Thank you! I'm glad you're getting value out of my videos.
Happy New Year,
CJ
Hey CJ, I can't thank you enough for these videos. I'm new to RC so I may not be as thorough as you, but I'm also a geek and I really appreciate how thoroughly you are going over every aspect of this car. I will likely watch every one of your videos and slowly repeat everything you are doing, although, being a beginner, maybe not to the same extent.
Hi Ian, Thank you for the complements. It's people like you and your gratitude that make doing all this work worthwhile. It's a great hobby and there is no end to the tinkering and creative projects you can enjoy as you learn and evolve. Please feel free to ask questions or call for help if you get stuck or need some info. I'll do what I can to help.
Regards,
CJ
sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot the account password. I love any tips you can give me
@Angelo Jeremiah Instablaster ;)
@Kane Henry I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im in the hacking process atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Kane Henry It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much, you really help me out !
The screws that go into the control arm is not a height adjustment, they are called droop adjustment screws, it limits how much the arm moves when the suspension is unloaded to control the attitude when leaving a jump, not ride height, ride height is adjustable by the shock spring collars.
Great video, man after my own heart. Hopefully mine will arrive soon and will strip it right back too. My first car but enjoy the tinkering.
I'm glad you liked it. Next video coming out today.
Thank you sir for youre sharing this video🥰🥰👍👍
I'm glad you enjoyed it! BTW, the new WLToys 101001 arrived yesterday. It's an improved larger 1/10 th scale version of this buggy. I think you'll be impressed with what they have done. Also, the new ZD Racing DBX 10 1/10 4WD 2.4G Desert Truck also arrived yesterday... felt like Christmas! It's more expensive, but brushless and really nicely put together. Videos coming out soon, so I hope you clicked the bell icon! You're going to want to watch these!
Regards,
CJ
This is a great series, really helpful im looking at doing some upgrades to my 124019 as a fairly newcomer to rc stuff like this helps massively. I may tap you up for advice at some point
Please do... my initial advice would be to NOT do upgrades right away and instead, invest in the tools you'll need to grow in the hobby... a good set of hex and socket type drivers, tools for suspension tuning, extra batteries, a 2-4 at a time battery charger... check out my video on the dangers of lipos... I'll put a link below. And, I'm going to include links to several sources on suspension tuning... This is the most important area of RC cars, especially if you'd like to try racing on and/or off road cars, trucks, & buggies.
Here's the battery video: th-cam.com/video/1HjSg_TeIq0/w-d-xo.html
Suspension Tuning Docs
img2.associatedelectrics.com/pdf/cars_and_trucks/shared/RC_HandbookV2.pdf
www.competitionx.com/rc-tuning-guide/
www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/708385-understanding-tuning-introduction-basic-tuning-racing.html
Feel free to send comments or questions anytime. I'll do my best to help,
CJ
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott thank you for the advice, really appreciate that. Oh I'll definitely be taking things slow and steady that's for sure
@@richsmith6810 Cool, again, if I can answer any questions or you need a recommendation for a vendor, where to find something, I'll do what I can to help.
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott Thank you for being so helpful. Really appreciate that! Keep up the great work 👍👍
I brought one of these can’t wait for it to come I have arrma losi 5ive t hpi truggy flux and more but this looks awesome for 80uk pounds
For the money, it's a sweet little buggy. A few upgrades build in a lot of reliability. You should definitely follow my lead and at least rebuild the diffs with silicone diff fluid. The 7000/5000 front/rear seems to work well. Start there and maybe go up a bit later, but I'd continue to run a bit of a stiffer front diff... but hey, it's your car so experiment and see what you like. Make sure to check your suspension setting: camber, toe, etc. before you do first runs. BTW, everyone who has commented about their diffs say theirs were dry to, so definitely rebuild them. If money it tight, just get a small bottle of 7000 weight silicone diff fluid and put in both diffs.
Happy New Year!
CJ
all the ESC all sitting in the same way
34:38 yessss would be really cool!
Hey great video....I am new to the hobby and this is my first car...I have seen most everyone says grease the diffs... well what nobody's said yet is don't over fill the diff cases because the bearings in the car are non sealed...it makes a mess...I am now looking into sealed bearings...plus you should make a basher...everyone has done the speed run version
Cool, thanks for the suggestion.
Great Video super helpful .
Thanks for watching. I hope you'll watch the rest of the series... there's lots of info on tuning and setup.
Didn't know Nicolas Cage was into RC cars
Hello have a question what size battery can I use in it, if you can you recommend some good batteries
I love ur videos. I'm so glad I found ur channel for my project in mind. My project in mind is to have a really nice rc car for a body of my choice and that's a 14 inch toy story rc car. The wheel base is exactly the same as the original toy story cheap car so I was very pleased when I found the wltoys 12- cant remember the rest atm, so fell in love with this project right away. U really know what ur doing and I'd love to pick ur brain on a few questions
Sure, ask away and I'll do my best to answer. BTW, it sounds like a fun project to make an RC version of the toy story car. I've been thinking about making a large scale model of the moon rover, but getting high detail models/dolls of the NASA suits is the really hard part. It would involve a lot of custom fabrication. Maybe someday. I got inspired during the 50th anniversary year of the moon landing.
I love ur idea on the moon rover. I have another idea with a diamond select 1/15 scale back to the future delorean and a sg1604 rc that I'll have to stretch a little bit to fit the wheel base. It's the best looking rc I could fine for the size I need. I dont mine a project so I totally understand ur moon rover idea and hope the best for you on it.
I ordered my 124019 about a week ago and can't wait to start working on that reeks of potential that ur talking about. I agree they should of made it a kit and not a rtr. I'm ordering two sets of the #2 and #4 along with the metal gear to replace the plastic one. I would like to replace the screws with Allen screws aswell. I found a few packs on banggoods stainless steel m2 and m3 flat top and a few others. My question is, what all kinds should I get to replace what can be replace on the car. Flat top, button top, etc. M2, M3 etc. Ty so much
@@johnstuart2268 Do you own or have you considered buying a 3D printer? For the kinds of custom projects you like, it would come in handy. I have an Ender 3 and it was money well spent. I've made all kind of things for the hobby and some handy stuff for the house. For example, we were propping things in the hallway to block the dogs from going back upstairs while we were cooking dinner... we wanted to keep them in the living room. I took one of the panels from a high end dog crate, wood frame with metal bars. I made a set of feet that clamp around the wood frame so it is free standing. When we want to block the end of the hallway, we just move it in place. Made the wife very happy. I even used a filament that has 20-30% wood pulp so the feet I printed resemble dark wood. On this buggy, the servo has a non-standard connecter and has 5 wires instead of 3 so I needed to use a different servo. I 3D printed a new servo mount so I could use the original holes in the chassis. You'll see what I mean in the next video... should be done tomorrow or Tuesday.
@@johnstuart2268 Having tried a few mods, and run into issues with some of their parts not fitting properly, I'd rebuild the diffs, freshen the shocks IF you think you want to go with different fluid, add the droop screws, tune/adjust the suspension, and leave it at that. At 34mhp, it's already plenty fast and unless you already have a better radio, I'd leave it at that. In my next video, you'll see what I mean. I had a ton of problems doing a motor swap. And because of the way it's designed, you can't change the gear ratios... the motor can't be moved in relation to the drive gear so the pinion gear can't be changed. The only way to make it go faster would be to put in a motor capable of higher RPMs and there is a limit to that... It's a nice buggy as is with those few upgrades. Make it reliable and save your money for a kit that's better to start. I wouldn't worry to much about the hardware since the car can only be molded so far. Some things are proprietary... for example the servo is not wired like a standard servo... it has 5 wires instead of 3 so when I swapped out the ESC/receiver, I had to put in a new servo. I had a micro servo with metal gears, but I had to design and 3D print a new servo mount. That's a lot of time, money, and work to put into a $115 car.
Did you upgrade the chassis
No, I didn’t know there was a chassis upgrade for this buggy.
I upgraded the chassis on the 1/10 scale 104001.
th-cam.com/video/w3nDG0x7fq0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott yeah I have the 104001 I should be getting the carbon fiber kit sometime next
Got mine, and my battery looks completely different. it's like branded? Taking the diff's apart to add grease now. Thank you for your videos. Are you located in Wisconsin by chance?
No, I'm in VA near DC. That's interesting that they changes the battery. I found a set of cheap wheels and tires that may improve general use of this buggy... video coming soon. I'll provide a link to the wheels and tires. I don't recommend doing a lot of mode like motor swaps. Better to save for your next vehicle and use this one as a learning experience.
Thanks for watching!
CJ
What's the difference in the two gear box dif sets you linked? One says -02 and the other says -04 in the link but the look to be the same link but I wondering what's the difference in the two
If you look below the price field, there are 8 little boxes. If you click on each, the product changes from bearings to gears, to diffs, etc. It's a weird way to sell... I was confused at first too.
Ok ty. I see what u mean. Ya, odd why of listing a product. Ty again
Will longer battery fit then in 144001? Would be great if this can hold 140mm length or so.
It's possible, you'd need to drill new holes for the existing plastic battery "blocks" so you can remount them further apart. Then there is the possible issue of width being a problem. It depends on the specific battery you are trying to use. Moding these cars is fine for bashing and experimenting, but you can only get so much out of this car without changing it to the point that it doesn't resemble the original. It's better to run it as is, or invest in a real car by a name brand. The tires are it's biggest problem and getting even a descent set of 1/10 wheels and tires costs about $70. It's just not worth it... I recommend enjoying the car as is... get an extra stock pack or two and have fun.
I live in China they have a full 5200kv brushless conversion available with a lot of metal upgrades on the gears etc with the purchasing the car its about 100$ extra. Do I have to upgrade the battery if I go brushless to optimize its power or is the standard battery fine?
The standard battery is fine. We race a lot of heavier cars and trucks on 2s batteries. If the ESC allows for it, you could go to 3s but you'll have to find one that has the same length and width as the stock battery. Or you could find a 2s with a higher Mah rating... that will last longer while giving the same level of power.
@MAD GRUMPYMAN Agreed, the problem is there aren't a lot of options in batteries that will fit in these buggies. The videos I've seen where people have done big upgrades, they have all had to hack the car up... Personally, I want to do more than just go up and down a parking lot for top speed. THey are also spending a lot of money into a $120 platform. Not worth it in my opinion. But hey, whatever floats their boat. Some people like to bash, some like to race, some some people build "shelf queens" that never get driven.
Should have made it brushless
I thought about it, but I'd already preordered the 104001 and wanted to save my budget for that buggy... I did a lot of updates and mods to that buggy including full electronics swap with brushless motor.
Here is a link to a playlist with all the videos for the 104001: th-cam.com/video/RNKN0IYBDG8/w-d-xo.html
Soon, I'll be uploading some videos of the 104001 doing laps at an indoor clay track.
Thanks for watching!
CJ
I know you advise on plastic wear and damage parts, but I'm planning on building out a 124018 to outrun my dog at the dog park. Since I'm building it with the occasional dog chomping on it, the more parts I have on it that are metal, the better, right?
Short answer, NO... longer answer, PLEASE DON't DO THIS!!! My wife and I have 2 dogs, so I know that some dogs like to chase and chew. But, RC cars have a lot of crevices in which a dog's tooth could get caught and broken. Small parts can be detached and swallowed causing internal injury or necessitating very expensive surgery. The worst case scenario would be the dog puncturing the lipo and having it explode in the dog's mouth.
On the surface it seems like a fun idea, but I strongly recommend that you don't do it!
Get a bunch of cheap frisbees, or build a pneumatic tennis ball gun to shoot balls down range for your dog to chase.
You'd also be teaching your dog that eating RC cars is approved behavior... the dog will see all fast moving colorful objects as owner approved targets. He/She might destroy some kids favorite toy which you'll be responsible for.
Dogs with extremely heightened prey instincts need extra training to limit that behavior and to limit the "menu" of things you allow them to chase and "kill". That menu needs to be specific and very limited so the dog understands that there are many things you don't want him/her to catch and kill.
On a positive note, you obviously like spending time with your dog and are looking for fun ways to exercise and entertain him/her. So, good for you on that! Get your pup lots of frisbees and tennis balls and work on your throwing arm.. save the extra money for a possible rotator cuff injury ;-)
After thinking about it more, it would be great training to make your dog stay in a sit position while you run the car around... then reward him with praise and by throwing balls for him to chase. Them repeat. That way you'll teach him/her to only chase things that you approve of
Regards,
CJ
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott well... I could probably keep it outside the fence when other dogs are around. My dog doesn't bite it at all... She will bark and herd it, if I stop. And run away from it, if I drive toward her. She's not ball or toy driven. She races cars and bikes to the back lot.
@@mrkimpham That's cool, I'm familiar with the herding instinct too. Maybe if you covered the body in heavy closed cell foam... like a nerf car. I'd go with a vehicle like a short course truck where the body covers the suspension arms versus a buggy.
I'm still not comfortable with the idea because it could teach bad behavior and lead to unintended consequences, but it's up to you. Plastic will be less likely to injure the dogs mouth than aluminum parts.
I'd also be wary of doing this at a public dog park where other dogs are present... again, unintended consequences. It's a litigious world and people love playing the victim.
How about setting up a motorized zipline with a stuffed furry toy hanging from a teather... you could use your radio to run it back and forth towing the stuffed toy across the yard and back.
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott maybe I'll just grab a cheap fpv cam and run it along the outside fence when other dogs are around. I'm not worried about my dog. She actually races cars and bikes. She runs ahead and circles back barking at them to go faster, if she's beating her "opponent" ... I actually let her run and race... But only at the park. I have an a959b that needs a new pinion gear, but she only jogs along with it, because it's slower than she can run...
The suspension arms are not identical. The rears are longer
There are already TOO MANY 124019's set up for speed runs....keep this a racer/road car.
Why not just buy a roller and build your own just saying
You gotta check out my channel more... it's full of long video series' where I build kits and cover the build bolt for bolt... many of them get mods as well. Check out the Slash series... I road race and the club has a class called "Truck"... anything goes as long as it started as a truck, runs on 2s and has rubber tires. I start with an LCG Slash roller and over last season, I modded it to the point where it is now an aluminum chassis, has 1/8 scale GT shocks, wheels & tires and has a street car body... ride height is about 10mm and all that's left of the Slash is the diffs, diff cases, center diff and driveshaft. I just finished building a 1/10 touring chassis and setting it up for VTA (Vintage Trans Am), I'm building a Associated RC10 SC6.2 and a RC10 B74.1d. I'm not into bashing as much as racing and that's the lense I look at my projects through. Here is the link to my home page... check out the Playlists tab for the individual build lists. There are hours and hours for each kit.
th-cam.com/channels/hb38m6f-uV_DL-LkGiD3NA.html
Thanks for commenting. Let me know if there is a kit you'd like to see, or if you have any questions.
If you read through the comments on my videos, you'll see that I'm always willing to help my viewers if they are looking for something in particular, or just need advice or direction. I try to help if I can.
Enjoy,
CJ
He's making a video to demonstrate for noobs like myself to learn, thankfully lol
Just got this car. Would like to get extra batteries and I don't know much. Are there discharge or maH limits that I need to know about?
I'd get the same size battery that the buggy comes with. You could go from 2S to 3 S, but you'll probably burn out the ESC and/or motor. You can go up in mAh (milli-amps), but you're changing the physical size of the battery and it might not fit. The battery area is tight.
Here is a link to a two pack of batteries that will fit and have the same connector... they are a direct swap.
www.amazon.com/OVONIC-2200mAh-Battery-Evader-Airplane/dp/B07CV9R5KY/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2GIZS0PEL2DHX&dchild=1&keywords=2s+2200mah+lipo+battery&qid=1624815258&sprefix=2s+2200+mah+lipo%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-7
Here is a video I did on lipo safety and best practices. I strongly recommend that you get a charger that has a "Storage" mode.
th-cam.com/video/1HjSg_TeIq0/w-d-xo.html
Good luck and have fun!
CJ
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott Thank you. I ordered the batteries qnd am shopping for a good charger balancer for 2s and 3s in case I run something 3s some day.
could you maybe link your grease and metal gears? It would really help me thanks!
Sorry for the late reply. I didn't see your comment.
The gears are the last link in the description... this is a strange page. There are little thumbnail images below the price. By selecting them, you're selecting different parts like the gears, or the aluminum diff housings.
The white grease is excellent. I've used it on many kits and swear by it. Here is a link to it on AMain Hobbies: www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-premier-white-friction-noise-reducing-gear-grease-lubricant-10ml-ptk-1412/p469153
Here's a link to their diff fluids: www.amainhobbies.com/diff-oil-grease-maintenance-cars-trucks/c1653
BTW, in the event you're looking for another car, WLToys has a new buggy similar to the 124, but it's bigger... in fact, it's a true 1/10 scale 4wd buggy. It's available now for preorder. I ordered one myself and will be doing videos on it as soon as it arrives. Here's a link: shop.makerfire.com/products/wltoys-104001-car?_pos=1&_sid=47c177d8c&_ss=r
Again, I'm sorry I didn't respond to you sooner.
CJ
Can you just install a new rx and tx with the esc that comes with it?
It’s been a while since I worked on this buggy. I believe the receiver and ESC are one unit. So to use a different transmitter you’ll need to replace the receiver and the ESC. The stock ESC doesn’t have any settings so it’s worth it.
Thanks for watching, Happy New Year!
CJ
@MyRCChannel-CJScott thank you! Great video. Also, have you tried 3s or just 2s on th3 original set?
Absolutely excellent commentary. Thank you so much for this video!
You are very welcome! Thank you for taking the time to leave me a complement. It's really appreciated.
Regards,
CJ
I just got mine 3rd day i had it i hit my mail box and the front left shock force of the impact pushed on my drive shaft and bent it slightly. If it bent it anymore id have to buy new drive shafts for it but. My car does the same with the shell leaning on one side do to the receiver being higher.. but one question I'm new to the rc world of things. But are the front tires supposed to sag in the front? Like bow inwards like that?
Sorry to hear about the crash. You should definitely replace the driveshaft! If it is bent at all, it will send vibrations into the connected assemblies and eventually damage them. While you are at it, get yourself some spare parts for the front end... they are not expensive and having spares will allow you to fix damage without having to wait for parts to arrive. A pair of axles is about $7, you can replace all the front plastic parts for about $10... I'd recommend getting a couple pairs of each piece. Note that the 124019 uses the same suspension parts as the 144001. I'll leave the links to the parts in another reply...
The front and rear wheels should have about 1 degree of negative camber... in other words, the tops lean in but it's a slight lean... you should watch the video where I discuss tuning this cars suspension. It's part 4 and here is the link:
th-cam.com/video/tnLdywZhtEc/w-d-xo.html
Since you are new, here is some homework for you ;-)
Below are links to manuals that will teach you about RC car suspension, how it works, and how to tune it. You'll need to familiarize yourself with terms like camber, caster, toe, oversteer, understeer, bump-steer, etc. You'll also need a few tools like a camber gauge, a ride height gauge, etc.
img2.associatedelectrics.com/pdf/cars_and_trucks/shared/RC_HandbookV2.pdf
www.competitionx.com/rc-tuning-guide/
www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/708385-understanding-tuning-introduction-basic-tuning-racing.html
Parts links:
usa.banggood.com/C-Seat-Set-1253-For-Wltoys-144001-124018-124019-1-or-14-4WD-High-Speed-Racing-Vehicle-Models-RC-Car-Parts-p-1599726.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
usa.banggood.com/Wheel-Axle-Base-1251-For-Wltoys-144001-124018-124019-1-or-14-4WD-High-Speed-Racing-Vehicle-Models-RC-Car-Parts-p-1599737.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
usa.banggood.com/Front+Rear-Suspension-Arms-For-Wltoys-144001-124018-124019-1-or-14-4WD-High-Speed-Racing-Vehicle-Models-RC-Car-Parts-p-1598097.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
usa.banggood.com/Metal-Drive-Shaft-1315-For-Wltoys-144001-124018-124019-1-or-14-4WD-High-Speed-Racing-RC-Car-Vehicle-Models-Parts-p-1596752.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott anyone willing to take that much time to help me out definitely deserves a sub thank you kind sir and looking forward to more videos from you 🥲👍
Great videos! I'll end up watching this a few times lol, would be great if you could point me in the direction of where to get parts delivered to UK please
You can find many parts for this buggy on MakerFire.com and Banggood.com. Which parts are you looking for?
Thanks for watching and have a Happy New Year!
@@MyRCChannel-CJScott hi, happy new year to you too, thanks for the reply, I'm looking to upgrade the shocks to all metal ones as I broke my sons shock on his 124019 at the top where it is plastic, super glued it back into place for now. Most shocks I'm seeing are universal and the same size for front and rear but the originals shocks seem to be different sizes. I would also like to replace the wheel hub to metal ones and the front bumpers and maybe have a few spairs here as I've just ordered myself the 124017 v2 for myself
@@raycorrigan7585 Here is a link to the front shock replacement... it's a single shock and front only. These cars are not the best quality... and that's an understatement. A lot of parts just aren't available.
usa.banggood.com/Wltoys-124019-1-or-12-RC-Car-Spare-Oil-Filled-Front-Shock-Absorber-Damper-1938-Vehicles-Model-Parts-p-1805807.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
If you're just looking for fun RC cars and you're not planning on doing any racing, I suggest looking at the RedCat line of buggies and trucks. If you're on a tight budget, go with the 1/10th scale vehicles... but I highly recommend going with the brushless versions... they electronics are better and many other parts are upgraded. It's better to buy a good car/truck up front than to try to upgrade something cheap. If you've got grassy areas to run in versus dirt, I recommend spending more on the 1/8 scale vehicles and go with the truck/monster truck options... they handle the thick grass much better. Again, better to spend more up front and have a good experience than to go budget and not have it work out well.
www.redcatracing.com/
Best of luck and happy new year!