Mark Kidd Yes and No. You're already passed the Bad Wolf, so that isn't going to be anything real new. However, you won't fully understand all of Matt's quirks and the little things that return.
Part of the whole point of Bad Wolf was that it was specifically Rose who absorbed the time vortex, not just any old person. It's not like she's going to be some emotionless robot, you can see her smiling and waving in the trailer. And considering she absorbed all time and space she'll certainly know 10 and even 11.
This means that when Rose met #9, he already knew who she was. Unless this event was caused by her changing an event in the time stream. If that is the case, then everything since 2005 will come to a head in the 50th, including the Silence and the crack in time. Would not be at all surprised to see River do a walk on either.
if the "War Doctor" uses the "Moment" to end the Time War, there's a good chance it will cause him to forgot things...and i'm willing to bet he won't know Rose Tyler when the "9th" Doctor meets her
Out of all of the millions of people the Doctor has met - past, present and future - The Moment chooses to incarnate itself in the shape of Rose and get him through the hardest day of his life. Interesting...
Rose WAS an almighty goddess for a span of at least 1~2 minutes, so the following are all possible: a) The Moment coincidentally chose her b) Bad Wolf Rose possessed The Moment c) The Moment took a liking to Rose's form because she was an ultimate being similar to The Moment.
mega17 I'm choosing to believe it's because the Moment knew the effect Rose had on all three of the most recent doctors (not counting Capaldi), and knew that if anyone would be able to get him through "the day when it wasn't possible to be the Doctor" it would be Rose. And she chose to be the all-powerful, time-vortex-controlling Bad Wolf form because she's more powerful. Then again, that is because I love Rose and her relationship with the Doctor more than any character or pairing on any TV show...
clol159 That's a nice interpretation. I like her too. Rose did get the best outcome of any companion after all. She got her own personal Doctor clone. How can you beat that? XD
mega17 Exactly...she got locked away happily in a parallel universe to live happily ever after with her Doctor! and, if you watch Journey's End's deleted scenes, she even got to grow her own TARDIS to travel in...so essentially the role of the Doctor, protector of the universe, gets passed down generations of Rose/Ten babies... I can't think of anything more perfect! Also, if you look really closely in the 50th, she's wearing a wedding ring. I don't think this is lost on the Moment, I think she/it knows that she really is the true love of the Doctor's life! (or perhaps Billie just forgot to take it off...nah, i'm going with the first one :P)
clol159 They probably left it on as a nice nod to Rose's happiness, and so Billie can leave it on in general. :P And I say the deleted scene. Mathematically, they'd be 300+ before the TARDIS was grown to operable state, so... Yeah. Nice thought, but they stumbled on the math. I like to think the Doctor just became a private investigator. :P
BadWolf entity/God spoke how she was going to cast the words "Bad Wolf" across all of space and time and this would lead Rose a path to go to the specific point in time to help rescue The Ninth Doctor. I'm guessing and I'm not the only one who has come up with this theory. But my guess is that unbeknownst to Rose whilst being in the BadWolf state she inadvertantly sent herself a message all the way back to "The War Doctor". So that I'm thinking explains the fact that the BadWolf anagram is seen in "The War Doctor's" era. Plus "The last Great Time War" But what I don't get is a physical version of Rose Tyler present in "The War Doctor's" era. She could be an embodiment of "The Bad Wolf Goddess" who guides "The War Doctor's" choices in the "Last Great Time War"
OMG, I didn't think of this, but now that you say it... she could actually be the "Heart of the TARDIS" Rose changing the Doctor's past and future... Bad Wolf everywhere, even now! *-* I hope you're right...
goldenchest1 Clara in the sense because she has entered his timeline and inserted herself in every able point available to be able to save him. Plus I like Clara better compared to Rose, I dislike her with a passion I guess it's safe to say.
YES! That's what I thought! She had access to all of time and space, so it's perfectly possible:) I loved this aspect (if we're right) because it also means that Rose, who acted rather like a petualnt child when the Doctor had to leave her on the parallel world, perhaps finally appreciated what he did in giving his human counterpart to her and fixed the biggest regret in the Doctor's life.
Thank's BBC and Steven Moffat for lying to us and making us think that Rose was coming back, well at least he won't fuck with the actually Rose. Completely disappointed in this 50th, this and the sexualization of Elizabeth I is the last straw for me, I can't watch this show anymore.
Well, you don't have to watch it you know. People who judge a show without even watching the episode have no right to call themselves a fan :) If you're disappointed anyways, please keep those comments to yourself, its lowering my IQ ):
serlolol No I don't have to keep my opinions myself, I'm disappointed and have every right to voice my opinion that this show has just become a sexist, homophobic, classist, and racists. Time after time that's all these episodes have become. The fact there sexualizing a woman who spent 44 years of her life trying to not become a sexual object is utterly disgusting. This isn't the first time they've done it and it's just repeating a pattern. Plus the lying that Steven Moffat and the BBC do is completely unnecessary I've never seen a show where they lie so much to there fans and audience.
kaybbayyy2362 Do you even read the stuff you write? Doctor Who has plenty of characters that are gay/omnisexual so the homophobic part doesn't make sense; and I still don't get how Doctor Who is racist, classist or sexist either. Wait a sec, are you just picking random words and putting them in your comments so that you seem intelligent? That's sad to know. Also, if she is trying not to become 'a sexual object' all she has to do is reject the role. As you said, she's a mature(not like you) 44 year old woman, so I'm pretty sure she knows better.
I am so glad you are leaving. You are absolutely everything that is wrong with the Doctor Who fanbase that RTD created along with the Tenth Doctor & Rose Tyler.
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'Excuse me, war Doctor, do you have a Moment?'
'Yes, yes I do.'
That gasp at the end almost describes reaction perfectly.
Just a big bad wolf. (spoilers)
Mark Kidd Yes and No. You're already passed the Bad Wolf, so that isn't going to be anything real new. However, you won't fully understand all of Matt's quirks and the little things that return.
Mark Kidd Yes. Everything is a spoiler.
Mark Kidd Yeah, I really do not suggest you do that till you're done with everything. You will get spoiled by a lot of things.
NoName1462 Totally worth taking the long route though, seasons 5 and 6 are frickin magic:)
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS. SHE'S COMPLETELY BADWOLFED, I'M GONNA LOOOOOOOVE THAT.
Part of the whole point of Bad Wolf was that it was specifically Rose who absorbed the time vortex, not just any old person. It's not like she's going to be some emotionless robot, you can see her smiling and waving in the trailer. And considering she absorbed all time and space she'll certainly know 10 and even 11.
This means that when Rose met #9, he already knew who she was. Unless this event was caused by her changing an event in the time stream. If that is the case, then everything since 2005 will come to a head in the 50th, including the Silence and the crack in time. Would not be at all surprised to see River do a walk on either.
I think she comes from Pete's world
if the "War Doctor" uses the "Moment" to end the Time War, there's a good chance it will cause him to forgot things...and i'm willing to bet he won't know Rose Tyler when the "9th" Doctor meets her
Out of all of the millions of people the Doctor has met - past, present and future - The Moment chooses to incarnate itself in the shape of Rose and get him through the hardest day of his life. Interesting...
Rose WAS an almighty goddess for a span of at least 1~2 minutes, so the following are all possible:
a) The Moment coincidentally chose her
b) Bad Wolf Rose possessed The Moment
c) The Moment took a liking to Rose's form because she was an ultimate being similar to The Moment.
mega17 I'm choosing to believe it's because the Moment knew the effect Rose had on all three of the most recent doctors (not counting Capaldi), and knew that if anyone would be able to get him through "the day when it wasn't possible to be the Doctor" it would be Rose. And she chose to be the all-powerful, time-vortex-controlling Bad Wolf form because she's more powerful. Then again, that is because I love Rose and her relationship with the Doctor more than any character or pairing on any TV show...
clol159 That's a nice interpretation.
I like her too. Rose did get the best outcome of any companion after all. She got her own personal Doctor clone.
How can you beat that? XD
mega17 Exactly...she got locked away happily in a parallel universe to live happily ever after with her Doctor! and, if you watch Journey's End's deleted scenes, she even got to grow her own TARDIS to travel in...so essentially the role of the Doctor, protector of the universe, gets passed down generations of Rose/Ten babies... I can't think of anything more perfect!
Also, if you look really closely in the 50th, she's wearing a wedding ring. I don't think this is lost on the Moment, I think she/it knows that she really is the true love of the Doctor's life! (or perhaps Billie just forgot to take it off...nah, i'm going with the first one :P)
clol159 They probably left it on as a nice nod to Rose's happiness, and so Billie can leave it on in general. :P
And I say the deleted scene. Mathematically, they'd be 300+ before the TARDIS was grown to operable state, so... Yeah. Nice thought, but they stumbled on the math.
I like to think the Doctor just became a private investigator. :P
BadWolf entity/God spoke how she was going to cast the words "Bad Wolf" across all of space and time and this would lead Rose a path to go to the specific point in time to help rescue The Ninth Doctor. I'm guessing and I'm not the only one who has come up with this theory. But my guess is that unbeknownst to Rose whilst being in the BadWolf state she inadvertantly sent herself a message all the way back to "The War Doctor". So that I'm thinking explains the fact that the BadWolf anagram is seen in "The War Doctor's" era. Plus "The last Great Time War" But what I don't get is a physical version of Rose Tyler present in "The War Doctor's" era. She could be an embodiment of "The Bad Wolf Goddess" who guides "The War Doctor's" choices in the "Last Great Time War"
It's just a wolf... A Bad Wolf.
(Is this all happening when she is possesed by the heart of the tardis?)
OMG, I didn't think of this, but now that you say it... she could actually be the "Heart of the TARDIS" Rose changing the Doctor's past and future... Bad Wolf everywhere, even now! *-* I hope you're right...
Clara or Bad Wolf -- Who saved the Doctor more times?
goldenchest1 Clara in the sense because she has entered his timeline and inserted herself in every able point available to be able to save him. Plus I like Clara better compared to Rose, I dislike her with a passion I guess it's safe to say.
YES! That's what I thought! She had access to all of time and space, so it's perfectly possible:)
I loved this aspect (if we're right) because it also means that Rose, who acted rather like a petualnt child when the Doctor had to leave her on the parallel world, perhaps finally appreciated what he did in giving his human counterpart to her and fixed the biggest regret in the Doctor's life.
Billie's performance in this reminds me of Helena Bohem Carter
Is that Earth? Looks like a tractor tyre there...
That was quick! I just saw it a couple of minutes ago xD ♡♥
Its Just a wolf... a BADWOLF!
Is anyone there?
It's nobody. It's just a (bad) wolf.
Oh my god oh my God
HOLLY MOTHERFUCKING GOD
I wanted it to be the proper Rose :( ... anyways, Bad Wolf Rose also badass.. Still, this isn't all Rose Tyler.
it looks like the War Doctor let the Wolf free by opening her cage?
So a wolf = nothing? Also is that Dorium's head box that Rose is sitting on?!
Careful sweetie, spoilers!
I need transcript. Please.
Thank's BBC and Steven Moffat for lying to us and making us think that Rose was coming back, well at least he won't fuck with the actually Rose. Completely disappointed in this 50th, this and the sexualization of Elizabeth I is the last straw for me, I can't watch this show anymore.
Well, you don't have to watch it you know. People who judge a show without even watching the episode have no right to call themselves a fan :) If you're disappointed anyways, please keep those comments to yourself, its lowering my IQ ):
serlolol No I don't have to keep my opinions myself, I'm disappointed and have every right to voice my opinion that this show has just become a sexist, homophobic, classist, and racists. Time after time that's all these episodes have become. The fact there sexualizing a woman who spent 44 years of her life trying to not become a sexual object is utterly disgusting. This isn't the first time they've done it and it's just repeating a pattern. Plus the lying that Steven Moffat and the BBC do is completely unnecessary I've never seen a show where they lie so much to there fans and audience.
***** I was upset about it 3 years ago, and I'm upset that Steven Moffat has continued to make this woman the butt of joke.
kaybbayyy2362 Do you even read the stuff you write? Doctor Who has plenty of characters that are gay/omnisexual so the homophobic part doesn't make sense; and I still don't get how Doctor Who is racist, classist or sexist either. Wait a sec, are you just picking random words and putting them in your comments so that you seem intelligent? That's sad to know. Also, if she is trying not to become 'a sexual object' all she has to do is reject the role. As you said, she's a mature(not like you) 44 year old woman, so I'm pretty sure she knows better.
I am so glad you are leaving.
You are absolutely everything that is wrong with the Doctor Who fanbase that RTD created along with the Tenth Doctor & Rose Tyler.