DIESEL HEATER HEATING MY HOME
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2023
- PUMPING HOT AIR INTO MY HOME
I bought one of these for my garage, and then thought....... I could heat my home with this! So that's exactly what i did! It is working great pumping hot air into my home. It is keeping us nice and warm and super economical.
I have a carbon monoxide detector just in case, but you don't get any fumes indoors at all
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I hope this may help you in some way. Even if it just makes an idea pop up in your head, of how you can heat your home in cheaper way.
Thanks for looking at my videos cheers Andy..... If you can be anything, be Kind.....
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Better to pull cold air in for combustion instead of from the room you’re trying to heat. Otherwise you create a negative pressure, with the air being made up from leaks in the house envelope, drawing in cold air from outside. That’s why some folks upgrade their wood/pellet stoves with outdoor air intake.
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did you see my other heater vids,
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
Also, if the combustion chamber floods, then the excess diesel is pumped out of the combustion air intake!
You definitely do not want diesel dripping inside your house.
Would that pressure difference be anyhing meaningful? and of course the opposite would be true you'd be forcing warm air out,, interesting point though, but as I have 2 x 4 inch vent pipes in my living room becuase of a gas appliance in the fireplace, that blow a gale I guess it would be moot for me :)
I also have the combustion air intake from the outside for the above reasons. It also cuts down on the noise quite a bir.
The air in and out is an equal exchange and wouldn’t cause positive or negative pressure however the air inlet for exhaust is sucking air and would cause a negative this is extremely low and would almost be not noticeable. I wouldn’t understand why you would need this inside the property unless it’s what samples the air temp to turn the heater on and off
Lovely job, as the person said above, I’d try to cover up the 240v wires somehow 👍
thank you for your comment
true!
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
I have a similar setup. Drawing warm air from the living room is ok You need to put that "silencer" outside because it leaks Co2 from the drain hole in the bottom of it. Also, I use smooth bore pipe and not that corrugated pipe from the point where you have the silencer so as to aid gas flow out of the unit (corrugated pipe collects soot over time). I used to use diesel for 18 months but have used kerosene for the past 8 months with zero issues.
Mine is located under the stairs and exhaust vented through the main wall to outside.
please see the next video, i did just that!...
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I have exactly this setup in my remote concrete panel garage, the disadvantage I have is that I have to power it off of a generator. Otherwise these things work a treat and my garage has never got as warm as it does now and for a few pence a day on diesel. I think I might give this a go in my house as it is pretty cheap to buy and setup. Well done on the vid
thanks, yes these are a great little heater and cheap to run,
the one one that i had heating the house last winter was great.
did you see my other heater vids, www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
let me know what you think, cheers andy
put an old iron radiators on the exhaust 3/4 pipe fits, i did on mine and in a non insulated 20" container and it helps alot.
good idea cheers andy
Nice work andy :)
Thank you! Cheers! andy
Great work again Andy
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice one Andy, be careful with the air balancer from the burn chamber inside the house. If ever you get a blip in the power or power cut the fumes from the burn chamber will push a small amount of smoke (fumes) into your house.
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merry christmas
Great way to beat the negative pressure by keeping all the flow and returns in the same room. Doing a radiator connection to deal with the exhaust gases would capture more heat. Pipe and lag the inlet at the top of the rad and the outlet at the bottom to ensure condensate doesnt get into your heater and as you know, that rad is gonna get properly hot! Great videos and content!
thanks glenn, good idea. and thanks for looking at my vids
merry christmas andy
you can get fumes blow back into the house from the combustion air intake as its connected to the combustion chamber also the exhaust lets fumes out as there not air tight and should be mounted outside at the end of the exhaust pipe and not in between :)
thanks my friend, i think i will change this.
cheers andy
Looking good pal
hey, thanks cozzy, hows your going?
Id of thought you would have been better putting control/ thermostat in the hallway? The garage will be a completely different temperature to your hall so you may not get the benefit or control you want? Just drill a small hole and extend wire and pass through and mount on hall way wall.
Nice set up
thanks mate, cheers andy
Really smart set up and idea, What I like about a separate heating is can keep on top of the costs of the fuel, can see and understand the costs with steady payments.
Going too fit one in my workshop as chilly and damp, have Set the heater all together and parts just need to drill holes and fit it over next week or so.
Go steady Sam
thank you for your comment
yes , thats true.
good luck with yours.
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
@@andyfireblade ok thank you
Also will check that one out
Thanks Sam
I like the setup. I just had to get a new heater and the second one died within 48 hours. I am hoping the company will help me. I think condensation got into the burn chamber. Anyway, I have hear that cold air intake is better, but mine is also pulling in from the inside. I need a longer intake hose to put it outside. I will try that soon.
Your mufler should be outside, they tend to be leaky. I'd put a monoxide detector either side of the wall for belt and braces. Google fireball extinguisher, not necessarily something you need but great little things
thanks for the tips!
did you see my other heater vids, www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade let me know what you think, cheers andy
Nice setup, but I have two suggestions. 1) the large return should be lower on the wall to pull in the cold air by the floor. 2) the small air source pipe should not be pulling warm air out of your house. It is being wasted because it goes out the exhaust.
Thanks for the tips!
cheers andy
Only the exhaust gas is vented outside, the 'inside' air is incapable of being drawn into the exhaust side, I have 3 of these heaters. The biggest mistake to make with these heaters in too many bends in the exhausts, it will either choke up the unit with soot or shut down upon startup.
@merlin1346 you misunderstood. The air drawn into the burner and expelled through the exhaust should not come from inside of the area you're trying to heat. It will take your heated air and waste it out of the exhaust.
@@michaeldvorak5556 I mislaid the pills this morning...
Great setup!! Looks neat and well thought out. I would love if you could incorporate your exhaust heat radiator setup to heat the garage at the same time with the otherwise lost heat (I know you have a long exhaust pipe, but still) and I would drill a hole and get the display wired inside the house. You could also do some kind of pipe work inside your house so that the air intake would be getting the coldest air possible from a room far away from the air outlet, to stimulate circulation inside your house, but I completely understand if that is a step to far 😅 Great job. I have watched I think all your videoes on these heaters and have gotten one from Vevor myself for the garage with a 4,5m long straight aluminium exhaust pipe to get the most heat possible out of it, with inspiration from your videos. Greetings from Norway!
thank you for your comments, great!
yes display in the house was one , i was thinking of.
good luck with yours.
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cheers andy
Yes, taking hot air from the already heated room and drawing it into the burn chamber doesn’t make much sense if you are looking to run as efficiently as possible, which you suggested you do. You’re basically dumping/wasting heated air by doing that, as it will be coming out of your exhaust.
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Is it not better to draw combustion air from the cold ? It is probably marginal on this type of burner, but usually cooler air is preferred as it is more dense and therefore you get a more efficient burn🤔🎅😎
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yes, thats true . i learned this in motor vehicle training years ago.
you would find how your car drove better on a cold moist morning due to this.
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
@@andyfireblade Any of us with bikes or cars that have carbs know this .....they struggle to breath in hot weather but run well on cooler days .🙂after finding your videos im now after years of cold....fitting one of these heaters in my work shop . theres an awful lot to consider and get it right ....
It don't make any difference with this type of burner. The control unit speeds up the air intake if needed as it is computerised forced air.@@specialse
true fact
cheers andy
Put the control panel in the room, your heating it’s also the thermostat
yes, will do!
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I've setup very similar just need to block that drain hole on bottom of exhaust silencer otherwise it will smell and carbon monoxide inside your room. You can use the little potentiometer in the power supply to speed up and down the fan and pump speed to suit if on the non adjustable controller board 👍
hello michael
thank you for your comment , appreciated.
did you see my other heater vids, www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade let me know what you think, cheers andy
I think having the burn chamber air intake come inside is a unnecessary risk but uther than that 👍
yes, you arec orrect, i have changed it now please see the next vid.
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Hi Andy, you have inspired me to purchase a diesel heater to heat my home. I too have a garage which is where I intend to house the heater & pop a hole through the wall into to the hall. Like you my hall has all the ground floor rooms & the stairs off so it seems the best place to start. Why have you mounted the heater so high off the the floor? I assume that you have ducted the fan intake air from your hall to recirculate warm air rather than colder air from the garage? I also live in the Midlands & know of a Kerosene supplier I already use for my smokeless coal, logs & kindling. My heater has been delivered so thought I'd drop you a message, this is where my journey begins 👍
it looks higher, because the garage is lower.
thats great, have fun.
i think its getting colder now so you have just got it at the right time.
let me know how you get on
cheers andy
I spotted a problem with these, anyone using lifepo4's to run these and when the voltage gets too low the combustion turns directly off and reverses through the input manifold back into the house.
It was a surprise as I had to find a power source to charge the battery back up to cool the burner down. Be careful with these. (Not plug and play).
thanks , cheers andy
The silencer you mounted inside, does it not have a hole for fluids to drain? that could spew exhaust inside your garage? or did you plug that hole
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ANDY ....PLEASE PLEASE get rid of the "silencer" it will put CO into your garage . better off having straight pipe there and one of the upgraded silencers outside . Hope you have a CO detector too?
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yes your right, and i did realise and moved it.
i was just too exited to upload the video.
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cheers andy
OMG you people and your C0 worries. If someone has the knowledge to work a system like this, they should know that the risks of C0 poisoning is very minimal. As for gas boilers used in modern central heating applications is a total farce. unless of course you seal up all your windows and doors! The entire population of the UK would cease to have existed if it were that dangerous! We used to run off coal gas which was considered extremely poisonous throughout the 50's 60's and into the 70's with virtually no safety requirements! Yes be sensible but wow the safety net is ridiculous these days and the people that would install such system surely knows the risks and prepare for them. Or is this channel and all those that promote a cheap source of energy a scam?
yes, the old style diesel space heaters didnt use a cleaver heat exchanger. you would get the whole burn in your workshop.
thats why you would get runny eyes and a sore throat at the end of the day hahahahh
You may have excess soot buildup if running these on low all the time. Best to be running mid-way, or so. At least 4 on a scale of 6. Also, I'd suggest drawing combustion air from the garage, rather than taking away from the heated area to do this. Why heat some air, just to put it outside the living space for the burner?
i did this on the next video, you are right!
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That's a perfect setup! Great video Andy! Is your exhaust fumes being blown into the garage or outside?
I'm thinking I will just mount mine in the basement. There's already a chimney for my exhaust and I can just blow the air up thru the floor in my hallway which is a central location. I'm going to have to find a way to bring in fresh air for the combustion chamber because it is more dense and I don't want to burn warm air.
good luck with it.
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I heat my shop with this type of heater. I've made biodiesel from wasted veggie oil and the costs of heating are maintained very low. I posted on my channel my setup and also how I made that biodiesel without using methanol, but denaturated alcohol which is much cheaper and you find it everywhere.
thank you for your comment, thats interesting, i will take a look
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
Very neat …. Top marks! I took the plunge and went from battery to power pack. So much more convenient but I worry what would happen to the heater in a power cut. No one has made a video of this happening? And if heater indoors I just worry 😮
Like it looks neat , incase of power cut could you put a battery up to it too ?
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thats a good point thanks
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
Only thing is with that psu you will need to remember not to let any kids or grand kids that turn up alone in your garage area with those exposed wires.
Also you are using twice as much electricity to power them, perhaps as i said before a solar pa el connected to a battery would save you the cost of the electricity and which I'm sure is not a lot but it all mounts up.
I have used one of these PS units & the stray EMF going back to the mains supply is shockingly bad! It seriously affected anything close on same ring or radial circuits!!
@ Paul_SD I use the Megawatt brand for both my ham radio station and my work shop diesel heater and do not have any issues with them. Both are connected to batteries for power storage.
@@77impalaforums but the one in video & the one I had/have is the chinesium version and manufactured to indeterminate (if any) standards! 🫣🤔
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yes the savings all mount up, good point!
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cheers andy
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did you see my other heater vids,
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
Cold air for the burner is more oxygen rich, so hotter burn for the same amountbof fuel. As ithers have mentioned... There is a lot of heat wasted by the exhaust on these heaters too as in you other videos try to capture it through a radiator, maybe for hot water a shower or a just radiator inside you house
Thanks for sharing , good comment
merry christmas andy
Maybe lag the heating pipe or spray it white, I expect a lot of heat is lost to the garage. Black is the most efficient colour for radiating heat so wrapping it in rock wool would help.
Have you shelved using the exhaust heat for now?
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
Do you have any back-up to have a controlled shutdown of the heater should the 12v supply fail for any reason?
i have had a few power supply fails, but it has been ok ater.
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Move the thermostat into the hallway as you will not benefit from the warm intake to dsve fuel
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yes, i was just thinking about that!
did you see my other heater vids,
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let me know what you think,
cheers andy
The 12 volt from the heater to the supply needs an inline fuse
true!
cheers andy
@andyfireblade it's ok Andy I'm yam yam from the black country 🤣🤣👍
What internal vent have you fitted to direct the air? Thanks
it is a round turnable type, like this one.
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thank you cheers andy and happy new year
i would say if u want greatly increase the efficiency of that burner u need to exchange waste heat from the exhaust to heat up the fresh air (but the impeler seem to be make of bakelite maybe not better idea of the world; but basikly.. if u preheat intake air u go higger in temperature inside the device so the delta T is bigger so i will give off more power into the house heated air..
i freshly own one, personally i will go for distilation setup... 1 meter inox housing for freshwater on exhause, housing copied like chemistery simple path distilation (1 meter of water condenser will do the job to recover the waste heat.. and why a distilation setup? to recover the corosive condensat and be able to dispose of it properly or maybe use it for chemistery ^^
if u use it inside a van with waste heat recovery . let say u have 200 liter barrel u heat ur camping car to a nice cozy heat until ur waste heate had heated ur 200 liter to 60c .. then done shut the diesel of and let ur heated hot water tank not insulated act as radioator and keep the place nice and warm for u to sleep without that pesty pump noise...
How much fuel do the 2 diesel heaters use? I heat a 4 bed for less than a fiver gas a day, i also have a diesel heater on a boat and its no where near as efficient as my home heating
yes, need to look at cost.
cheers andy
How does it look on the other side, and is your house all hols now?
the holes are hidden by a chest
Hi Andy, just wondered if yourself or anyone else has suffered with a smell like burning rubber from the heat outlets. Thanks in advance.
to begin with , but after a few uses it goes away.
did you see my other heater vids, www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
let me know what you think, cheers andy
@@andyfireblade Thanks for your reply Andy.
I’ve watched most of your videos covering the heaters. They have been really helpful.
Keep up the good work and have a good Christmas.
@@Davesarsenal merry christmas andy
Hi, how many watts is the Regulated Switching Power Supply using ? Thanks
15
@@andyfirebladeI’m thinking about switching to one of these instead of the battery & charger setup but I’m worried if I get a power cut then the heater is fried
@@internetuser1183 there is a youtube video of a guy (stevethetransit) i think? killing his power to see what happens, and he did it many times and the heater was fine.
i have lost power a couple of times (my own fault) and mine was ok too.
but i dont have power cuts ever here , so i am ok.
i prefer the 12v power supply instead of the battery
cheers andy
I've got exactly the same set with the converter, but last month it let me down it will run for about 40 minutes and the it just turns itself off fills the room with fumes, it's saying error code 7, do you have any idea what this could be?
hello dean, i have known this before to be a wiring problem, or it could be mother board, at worsted mother board and controller replacement should fix it? good luck mate
Thanx Andy
Buy an oil burning central heating system....
The way you've set this up it's not safe two reasons one these Chinese heaters do not have very good connection with exhaust and does leak bad idea to have the unit inside your house. 2nd you are missing a back up Battery if you ever got that on full power, and you have a power cut it will damage or even melt the plastic housing another reason why it should be outside
i made a couple of changes on my next video.
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