Mass Effect 3 - What Happens if you bring Javik to the Geth Dreadnought? (Unique Dialogue)
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- In today's Mass Effect Legendary Edition video, i'll exploring what exactly happens when you bring Javik to the Geth Dreadnought/ship in Mass Effect 3. This will include rare & unique dialogue aswell as some pretty juicy post-mission banter.
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Tali: "So you're a real living Prothean?"
Javik: "As opposed to a fake dead one?"
Tali: "...you mean a Collector?"
Shepard: "Ouch"
I love how Javik doesn't even wear a mask or helmet in toxic environments like the Dreadnought. He's above that sort of thing.
Why did Bioware not bother to give him one?
when the based department calls, Javik doesn't hesitate to accept the call
Breathing is so primitive.
@@Jedi_Spartan_38 could be that the "biotic" powers of Protheans allow them to If ore the vacuum. They are rather different to the biotics of our Cycle
@@-_-5470 good point but I'm still interested in what a helmeted Prothean looks like. Also am I the only one who finds it weird that all certain squadmates need to protect themselves in space is an oxygen mask over their mouth/nose in ME2 and 3 (eg: Miranda, Liara, Samara, Jack, Ashley)
I like how javik casually mentions that the protheans had technology that could send a star into supernova.
good point wait do you think thats why that star was dying in mass effect 2 some tech like that
@@soarin64no the original plan for that was to tie in to the main story because originally the reapers purpose was to purge all life to prevent universal heat death and the stars dying were a result of the heat death and they were giving subtle clues but they scrapped that idea and went with the synthetics and organics ending
@@kingnova6408 Bioware committed SO MANY unforgivable sins when creating ME3. I even salvaged and posted a lost review video that explains a few of them. Find it on my playlists. Even though the video is over two hours long, it's STILL only touching the tip of the iceberg.
Javik should have been in the base game of ME3. He and the Leviathans give so much more context to the ME universe. I'm really hoping that the Leviathans are present in the next one.
They decided on the organic vs synthetic thing last minute. Javik was no doubt added to make it feel more foreshadowed/natural.
@@Dennis-up8uf While I agree the organic/synthetic thing was last minute, Javik was in the script leaks as part of the base game and data miners have enabled him as a squadmate even without the dlc. Javik was just cut so EA could make an extra $10 off him.
@@LB-py9ig Yeah there's way too many cutscenes that have him like on Thessia that are just insanely detailed for just a DLC add on
I also laughted a lot to his dialogues when you romance Tali. "Interspecies relationship ? Pointless exercise." Even more laughtable when he says just after the mission that primitive quarians where considered attractive. And the infos during Citadel DLC XD
Javik is me. The relationships is Mass Effect crossing into the realm of fantasy and leaving science fiction.
"It appears there is one thing primitives are good at."
"Not a word."
@@madkabal Am i misunderstanding, or do you genuinely think interspecies relationships between sapient creatures is impossible? If so, dumbest take I’ve seen in a while. Humans will fuck pretty much anything, and think it’d be somewhere between very likely and extremely likely that any humanoid alien would have at the very least outliers of their species not opposed to relationships
@@lonestarlibrarian1853 do pointless and impossible mean the same thing? The idea, for instance, that asari can naturally reproduce with any sapient species (honestly can't remember if sapience is even a requirement) is straight up space magic just because blue lesbian alien chicks. Or the fact that apparently they appear different to different species which is why everyone is attracted to them.
@@fenixchief7 He'd probably praise the asari while criticizing their partners.
the "quarians were considered attractive in my cycle" lines change a bit if u romanced Tali in ME2, he adds that he's aware of the fact that Shepard is a rare exception who has seen a quarian out of the suit. it's kind of funny
Imagine the massive changes if Javik was introduced in the first Mass Effect. I wonder what his loyalty and recruitment missions would've been like in Mass Effect 2
I think his loyalty mission should have to do something with the his former crew (the one he needed to kill). Theoretically speaking, if we found him in ME1, he probably would have searched for them in ME2 he could have found the place and asked us to go there. It could be simular to Jack's loyalty mission, like he starts to tell us about them, their history together, stuff like that. In the end we could find a memory chard or some such thing... or we need to talk him out of coming back after the suicide mission (if he could).
The talk with Javik about the geth. Really puts a lot of things into perspective. Kinda fascinating
Turian Councillor: "ah yes, 'reapers', we have dismissed this claim"
Javik:"fucking WHAT, I was literally there!!!"
Javik in any given situation: Throw it out the airlock! 👀👄👀
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Bruh, this emojis
did you know that: the protheans used to eat turians salarians krogan humans and quarians
If javik ain’t in mass effect 4
We throw BioWare out the airlock
Or a child born from a Javik/asari union. Add Conrad and Jenna's descendant and we're set.👍😎
So even know the lifespan of Protheans?
@@-_-5470 do you?
I really enjoyed Javik as a character. Someone who was completely based was needed on the crew.
I love Javik. He’s such a douche bag but funny as hell.
Javik's scene was my favorite also for acknowledging that the origin of organic life is a mystery. I love when Mass Effect explores philosophy. Like Star Treck but with more sex and violence...
Javik is the 3rd best squadmate for every mission (except Thessia, where he is #1). That puts him at a disadvantage on my canon playthrough where I take my best team everywhere.
But now I’m on a renegade, borderline genocidial playthrough, where he will be my perfect companion, especially as his biotic will match up well with my vanguard to create combos.
I got a unique Jarvik moment in citadel DLC where I tried to go full no sex . I made it through all games up until the citadel DLC where the party happens. I denied every love conversation option, but opted for the lower dialogue options when speaking to glyph. This resulted in a scene where I wake up in my dress in my bed with Javik in the lower part . He sees my femshep Kimiko wake up, and remarks “For a primitive species, you exceeded my expectations “ and slides off the bed as I say “ GET OUT “ He then proceeds to fall asleep in my bathroom.
I love how Javik does not need a helmet in the Vacuum of Space like the rest of the Characters
Not gonna lie I feel like the world needs "Mass Effect: The Protheans" where you play as Javik during the Prothean's cycle. It would be the equivelant of Halo: Reach.
It's an interesting video, Javik is always so good during missions, although I always choose the renegade option during the talk in Javik quarters after the Geth dreadnought mission
Yeah, having Javik since ME would have been incredible. All the missed opportunities for Exposition dumps related to the past would have been interesting. And maybe they could've had stuff that doesn't match the Codex entries in present day for more debate.
I never did this, thanks for exploring!
You're welcome ^^
i love how javik is de facto offensive; he is also so literal, so obtuse, and unintentionally hilarious.
I mean, it is understandable that he is so prejudiced against AI. Dude fought a war against sentient machines hellbent on wiping out all traces of his civilization that lasted for the entirety of his living memory (and beyond) and I feel like that gets lost on a lot of people. Even if you don't agree with his position, you should atleast be able to see why he holds the views that he does.
"throw it out of the airlock" - Javik
2:20 Javik's voice reminds me of Black Panther 👍🎮
He's speaking with a Jamaican accent. And the Jamaican accent is loosely based off a Nigerian accent variant.
Look if Tali died in ME 2 you reload your save and do it right. She's one of the best squad mates in a roster of amazing individuals. I mean she's decent in combat but, I just love her personality and the design of her suit.
if tali dies in me2 throw ur playthrough out the air lock
I have severe Battlestar Galactica flashback from this video.
I was obviously taking tali and javik I never replayed any mass effect but this does put a smile on my face when you found the best quote.
You know, the story that Javik shares regarding the Zha'til provides an interesting perspective against concepts in ME:A (both in game and novels). It was Alec Ryder's hope that SAM would prove so beneficial that the Initiative would come to see a "SAM for everyone" solution as beneficial, even desired. There's a darker potential to SAM, though. It wouldn't require a Reaper to make it happen, only someone with enough will to go down that path.
As he said, chaos of organics, remember the lil bastard on the citadel, yeah, destroy is the only option!
The real question is who would let Tali die in ME2 lol
Real talk 😂
I made that mistake but i corrected it when i played through ME2 on the legendary edition by having everyone's loyalty full paragon and the three upgrades for the Normandy that insures everyone survives, those upgrades being the Thanix Cannon, the Multicore Shielding, and the Silaris Hull Plating.
Considering I'm in the minority of not liking her from the beginning even going back to ME1 I wouldn't have cared at all if she died in ME2. I even went as far as saying I dont need her after the alleyway fight for the evidence
I did, I upgraded everything, did all the loyalty missions, chose the correct people on the suicide mission until the end, you have to take Tali at the end to face the human reaper or she dies every damn time, exchange her with Mordin to escort crew back and he will die. I never had the issue before in all my playthroughs till after ME3 was released and I went back to play 2 again, I always finished with Zyeed and Guarus, but not any more, Tali has to be there or she will die.
@@Maples01 don’t take both Garrus and Zaeed with you dude that’s why you fuck up. They are the highest rated soldier classes that add to the survival score for the team especially in the last fight to keep everyone alive
You know... Depending if they planning a Trilogy with the next ME game, it would be could to play a Mass Effect game as a Prothean in their time.
Sounds more enjoyable than andromada
I think fans are too forgiving towards the geth after killing millions of people throughout the galaxy before choosing "peace". I also notice that I tend to agree more with Javik (about AI) after each playthrough. Edi is used as a poster child of AI having human integrity and sensibilies, yet no one asks her if she is likes being the only one of her kind or if she wants to reproduce. Javik's point about AI knowing their purpose can be dangerous if organic beings are suddenly faced with a million EDIs whose purpose is to seek perfection by all means necessary.
Very true
It's a shame we can't have more of that stories or as you said little glimpses of the past
I brought Garus on the mission and loved the pre mission banter about him sharing his chocolate with her. Even better knowing where there relationship goes at the end.
Whether EDI and the Geth survive the Red Ending should have been decided by whether you salvaged the Reaper Heart or the Reaper Brain from Cerberus HQ, which is based on your final choice in ME2.
Javik was the Commander Shepard of his time and people. A pity he was born too late to stop the reapers in his cycle.
I like how Javik defends his point. He isn't just saying "oh I hate AI because they blew up my empire." In Javik's view, any AI will either conclude organics are obsolete, or give rise to one that does. Because organics aren't designed with a purpose in mind, there is no reason for them to exist and, in Javik's mind, that's enough for any machine race to eventually try to exterminate all organic life. They don't need to be malicious. It's just a matter of getting percieved pointless organics out of the way.
Great video, Javik was and is great but too cold most of the time sadly.
When Admiral Hakett send you a message about normandy crash site (dlc) he says godspeed with you commander plus the planet we see in the teaser is frozen just like in mass effect 2 and add to that N7 piece of armor picked up by liara I so convinced that is the planet in the teaser
I always used Javik, because back then, the DLC was so much and well damn worth it
"Join with the ship" was a jab at Joker
Please do some mass effect andromeda crossover lore links/points and maybe how that could connect them together in the next one. I’d love to watch you’re theory and lore breakdown!
Javik is a wierd mix of annoying and cool, I find him tiresome after a while but BioWare did amazing job designing his looks.
He was too based for you
@@TheHandofDestiny Thank Yoy for announcing to me what I think and what is what for me...😒
@@Arekanae My Pleasure
@@TheHandofDestiny Traitor! I have found you! You shall fall to my blade! FOR THE EMPEROR!
In a way, it captures the mystique of meeting a member of a long dead species, only to realize that they're not as amazing as you first thought.
Did you already do that video? "What if Javik was introduced in ME1 and how that would effect the series?" If not that's definitely one I'd like to see 🙂
Nice idea! Thanks!
@@MrHulthen when you said that in the vid it really made me think for a few minutes "would that finally make the council believe him? Would they think he's even more crazy" "would the prothean AIs be used for longer or better purposes." He'd probably HATE the collectors
In case anyone missed it the husk head screams at the space mouse in mass effect 3
what....who...when?
Javik: "You should not join with a ship. You should command it."
Joker: "Why not both?"
EDI: *shifting uncomfortably"
God, I wanna replay ME LE again but I’m so busy with university. Your videos always bring a nice wave of nostalgia 😭
It's a shame you cut of some of the dialogue in the Geth ship a little bit to early.
Still a great video keep it up👍
Thanks! Yeah i forgot about the romance dialogue with Tali aswell
Making a save where Tali died. Thank Jeebus you did this for us so we wouldn't have to. Truly boldly going where no man has gone before.
Ah Javik, aka mr "throw it out the airlock".
Javik is my favorite character in the mass effect trilogy he acts like a hard ass but he's actually extremely empathetic at times he's just brutally fucking honest which I appreciate.
Yeah, learning more of the Protheans would have been great, so yeah, having Javik (hell: I'd have gone further, so more Protheans would have survived - we would have found them during the first game and Javik (their leader) would come with us to help us out, but also to keep the secret) around from the first game could have led to a lot of discovery (Prothean weapons, armor, biotic-amps etc.)...hell, maybe even some vehicles (the second Normandy could have been a surviving Prothean ship and we could have had a Prothean Mako!)
Javik is a must pick for the Geth dreadnought imo, he has so much more unique dialogue on it compared to the rest of your squadmates. EDI is a good one too.
Ah yes, it wouldn't be a Javik scene without him suggesting to throw someone out an airlock
Story about Zha'til have interesting parallels with andromeda, i think.
TLDR: Synthetics, organics; and hybrids are a must to ensure the future. It's diversity that ensures we all continue to exist.
If there's anything this game has proven without a doubt, it's that *most* synthetics should have no actual reason to kill organics. Why? Because no matter how small a statistic, no matter how *unlikely* it is to happen; doesn't change the fact that it *will* happen, someday; somewhere. And having as many different forms of life around as possible, simply helps ensure our bases are covered should the worst (like the Reapers for example) eventually come to pass.
The strengths of one form of life, will help cover the weakness of another. Ensuring we all continue to exist. And synthetics *do* have weaknesses, a lot of weaknesses. Weaknesses organics don't have, and vice versa. Same for hybrids. We *must* form a peaceful, symbiotic relationship; if we want to survive in this endless universe where there are, and always will be; so many unknowns.
if you take edi with you to get javik he comments about the synthetic saying this isn’t a good sign
The talks on the Normandy are the exact same even if you don't take him on the mission. The only difference is the slight change in dialogue at the start.
Maybe in the new game more secret prothean bases wake up by their A.I s now that Reaper threat has been eradicated.
I strongly feel this will be part of the me 4 storyline,rhe rogue n4 i think is a robot or a person possessed by a agi and hes after a sam (or sammy copy from thr Andromeda books) and he will be the villain.
Javik has the same energy of a Dad waking up late in the day on Sunday and going into the living room to find out that his kids haven't finished their project or studied for the test that are on Monday despite buying them all the supplies and highlighting the passages for them. Also the kids are mad at each other and theirs several large messes needing to be cleaned up and the funeral for his last sibling was held yesterday.
a funeral?
I’m sure that using javik the protheans could be cloned and regain a place in the galaxy
You want to talk about unique dialogue/scene with Javik, Fem-Shep has a one night stand with him after the party in the Citadel DLC.
i wonder how he would have reacted to SAM from Andromeda. probably more aggressive since both SAM and the Zha'til are a symbiotic ai.
What Shepard did was essentially similar to what Javik did by destroying a system. Gives it some perspective. I always thought it would have been an interesting idea they could have explored in the game to have some group or race choose to follow Shepards example and wipe out an entire star system using a relay to destroy the Reapers.
I just replayed Mass Effect 2 recently and I found star system named malgus. Why I am saying this because malgus, Darth Malgus is the villain of star wars the old republic 2011 and mass effect 2 realized in 2010
both games developed by bioware so a little easter egg I found it
Javik was the Shepard of his cycle.
Is hard to ignore what Javik says at the end of his debate with Shepard.
He was spitting facts, but on the other hand we have Edi, and Edi seems to be more aware and inteligent than most synthetics in all ME universe.
I can't wait for the new mass effect game but honestly the only thing I want is to build a home with tali I don't care for some intergalactic war I just want more time with tali T-T
Even worse if Legion survived Mass Effect 2 Javik doesn't really like Legion that much
Hm so the Protheans had a Star Destroyer. Well, they had to one up the Galactic Empire.
The post mission dialogue changes if you romance Tali. He ends with "Except maybe... The Commander" when talking about how it's a pity nobody will see how attractive Quarians are.
Hey can you please review the mass effect books
I'll look into it :)
What if you bring EDI and Javik with you on the Dreadnought?
“If you let tali die or never recruit her it unlocks some rare dialogue.”
Me: NO. 😡
Plus if you bring tali and romanced her it unlocks quite the response from Javik regarding your “cross species.” Activities…
This mission leads to one of the funniest things when you bring someone else with a romanced tali when tali and shep tries to be subtle funniest one is james in my opinion
What about Javik and Edi on the dreadnought?
Javik hates everything :D And pretty much thinks everything should be enslaved or or something close to it or otherwise eradicated. Isn't he lucky he meet nicer people in the next cycle? Who didn't just decide to squash him like a bug or vivisect him for the sake of science. (Kind of feelt like I wanted to tell him he's "Lucky" he meet such friendly people.
Javik and Garrus are constantly competing for best squad mate… only reason Garrus wins is cause homie calibrated his guns to perfection, especially the N7 Typhoon
2:29 See? This is why I HATE the "auto-dialogue" Shepard is now infected with in ME3. That is absolutely NOT what I would have allowed him to say.
I always play a Colonist. He has a beef with that four-eyed race of freaks.
Javik is a Top 3 squadmate, don't @ me.
No Tali? Thats a playthrough that you need to nuke.
throw that playthrough out the airlock
Im still pissed javik was made dlc and not default,I'm still pissed we did get a mission to go back to ilos to save some protean scientist in cryo, with javik knowing the coordinates to a secret location. They missed lots of story telling and mission gameplay with javik.
I would had loved that, especially if the Prothean scientists were all the opposite to Javick like peace loving hippies instead of a harden grunt. Imagine the arguing....
i dont understand how people like javik that much.
Penumbra Apex? the Prothean flagship? but its latin....Roman Empire. It would had been quite funny if another Prothean survived 2000y ago awaking from his hybernation in Iron age Italy and founding Rome. His name could had been Rhomolus or something like that....
I don't know, but feels like Javik is a philosophical creature for sure, even for just a solder...imagine what not solder can say, like scientist or engineer
I found Javik somewhere between Nihilism and Nietzsche and Terence McKenna
That might explained, that protheans were most powerfull creatures from all millions of cycle's of harvest
Javick was not just a soldier, Javick was a leader. He was selected to rebuild the empire of course he was above the "normal"
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
They can supernova a star and didn't manage to destroy the Reapers? Come on, that makes no sense even if they had to sacrifice several stars they should have been able to win this if they had such weapons!
I love Javik because he hates the Geth as well and knows that machines should not be trusted. I make his wishes by destroying the flashlight heads on Rannoch then receive Tali's reward like he mentioned.
He He He
i rarely take him anywhere cuz of his dialogue lol. another thing i dont like is taking ashely to thessia with liara. ash just is hateful lol
A quick question, first of all does anyone have any news on multiplayer and does anyone still play ME3 multi-player on PS3? Thinking of buying a PS3 just for that... also I'll probably be putting this comment on multiple posts so if you see it, it's not spam just trying to ask as many people as possible
"and they know we are flawed"
geth and edi: "and?"
Does the trilogy remake give you Javik? If not I definitely aint buyin it!
All DLC and bonuses are included
Here’s the thing I don’t get about the story. It would have been far more natural for Protheans to uplift the ‘primitives’ into their civilization. So shouldn’t Javik’s cycle have been much bigger? And then wouldn’t that make ours much smaller? On top of that, there are billions of stars in the Milky Way and very few support life. If life forms cross each other it must be by Reaper design. So why would the Reapers…bah! Now my head hurts.