Mass Effect 2 - What Happens If You Bring Legion to the Quarian Migrant Fleet for Tali's Trial?

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  • @BigDanGaming
    @BigDanGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2890

    Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain"
    Quarian Captain: "Or what?"
    Shepard: "Or I take off this mask and breathe germs all over your nice clean ship..."

    • @nicosheppert2084
      @nicosheppert2084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      I Love this Dialog.
      One of the best in the game

    • @jxckedgell3821
      @jxckedgell3821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Keep the great content up mate 👍👍

    • @guillaumejoop6437
      @guillaumejoop6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      renegade shepard often has the best punchlines

    • @danielkrause1357
      @danielkrause1357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Your videos on the consequences of Mass Effect are very entertaining.
      Could you possibly do Dragon Age: Origins and explore the multiple choices throughout those games too?

    • @adam_bbing
      @adam_bbing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Roo Morgoo probably would have apologized and asked legion to go back to the ship.

  • @builder396
    @builder396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4165

    Tali: "I never brought active Geth to the fleet!"
    Legion: *exists*
    Tali: "I never *intentionally* brought active Geth to the fleet."

    • @TylerNOS386277
      @TylerNOS386277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +444

      Tali: "I never brought active Geth to the fleet!"
      Legion: *exists*
      Tali: "It was all Commander Shepard's idea."

    • @builder396
      @builder396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      @@TylerNOS386277 Shepard: *looks at Tali*
      *looks back at Quarian guards*
      "This one was my idea, just wanted to see what would happen, I had no idea about anything that happened before. Believe me."

    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      lol, a callback to "Geth don't 'intentionally' infiltrate."

    • @kylzepolaczkowaty2197
      @kylzepolaczkowaty2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I never brought active geth
      ...until now

    • @plaguemarine7767
      @plaguemarine7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Legion: exists

  • @igniskitsune887
    @igniskitsune887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3576

    I love the fact that when the admiral points out that Legion is in the audience of the trial, the rest of the audience gasp in shock and horror that a Geth is with them. Like did they not notice Legion standing with them when the trial started. It’s just too funny for me.

    • @Askhat08
      @Askhat08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +543

      I more like that Legion is also be like "Geth? Where?"

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +330

      @@Askhat08
      *Legion grabs a random desklamp of a desk.*
      Legion: "Attention suspect Geth spydrone, relinquish your comms protocol so we may find your masters."

    • @cjdziesiuta1995
      @cjdziesiuta1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

      "Geth do not intentionally infiltrate, but apparently we are really damn good at it."

    • @XxnamcoxcapcomxX
      @XxnamcoxcapcomxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Ok this is random but but it reminds me of the trial in Batman Forever where Harvey Dent gets acid thrown on him then Batman jumps in from the seats to subdue the attacker. But that implies that Batman in full costume was just sitting in on a trial in the audience seating, that always made me laugh as a kid.

    • @VitalHonet98
      @VitalHonet98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The Gerth are masters of infiltration!

  • @SpectreAnimations
    @SpectreAnimations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1739

    Tali: “But I would never send active geth to the fleet.”
    Legion: Creator Zorah. This is an awkward anomaly most organics refer to as a “Bruh moment.”

    • @aaron75fy
      @aaron75fy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite contradiction on the internet

    • @mrsejd3446
      @mrsejd3446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Tali: “But I would never send active geth to the fleet.”
      Shepard: "Well, I would."

    • @hugosinclair6798
      @hugosinclair6798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      someone should record that, mod it into the game and let the community use it XD

  • @Pine0wlple
    @Pine0wlple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1783

    Although, to be fair. Tali is still right in having never brought a live Geth onboard, it was actually Shepherd that did it.

    • @KalashVodka175
      @KalashVodka175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Sheppard flexing on the migrant fleet

    • @fuzzyhead878
      @fuzzyhead878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My bad…

    • @Redmanticore
      @Redmanticore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      technically fair*
      she still didnt resist that decision with tooth and nail nor send a message about if beforehand

    • @bignigga2238
      @bignigga2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@KalashVodka175 "get dabbed on lmao"
      -sheperd

    • @Primeditz
      @Primeditz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tripping more on the fact your name is “TheSuicider66”

  • @OneTwoMark
    @OneTwoMark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1601

    Most games would be like “you can’t bring this companion for this mission” to avoid all unique interactions.

    • @karabeansweet
      @karabeansweet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      I love that BioWare embraces it

    • @Sh0tgunJust1ce
      @Sh0tgunJust1ce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +283

      Or even worse, have Legion brought along and have the Quarians give no reaction.

    • @karabeansweet
      @karabeansweet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Sh0tgunJust1ce
      I mean.. but that's not the case. Hence why I said I love that BioWare embraces unique interactions.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or they allow it only to have it be just like bringing anyone else as if they changed races for the mission.

    • @atashgallagher5139
      @atashgallagher5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@karabeansweet yes, blocking you from bringing him is bad, but letting you bring him and having ZERO reactions to it would be far far worse because it completely ignores it.

  • @SuperWolfman9
    @SuperWolfman9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1504

    What Legion says: *"THIS PLATFORM IS NOT AVALIABLE FOR EXPERIMENTATION"*
    What Legion thinks: *help us Shepard, We're scared, get the scary lady away from us*

    • @anarmedrat8966
      @anarmedrat8966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      "Shepard-Commander? We wanna go home... :'("

    • @kainepeterson6638
      @kainepeterson6638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      “Shepard-Commander, this unit would like to return to the Normandy now.”

    • @FireBallZ24Gaming
      @FireBallZ24Gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Giving me feels man, sad feels for Legion Bro.

    • @redbasher636
      @redbasher636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@kainepeterson6638 I'm just imagining if Legion has access to Shepard's UI on their helmet, it's just a constant:
      "Help"
      "Help"
      "Help"

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The one Quarian feared by the Geth. Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh.

  • @mcmahon31619
    @mcmahon31619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2744

    On my first playthrough I did this without even thinking about it. when the doors opened and the quarian guards started pointing their guns at me I was like. Oh right I have a geth with me

    • @shampthedog
      @shampthedog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      Same, I thought they were gonna kill Legion.

    • @1rgam3r
      @1rgam3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      Did this also on a paragon run. Got curious to see if it could be done. What a reward! Timing is a bit tricky so you don’t get half your crew and squad mates killed. If you ignore the constant nagging about going and getting the iff, then you’ll be fine.

    • @karabeansweet
      @karabeansweet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@1rgam3r On a first play through, it's a real mind fuck if you go for the IFF early. Constant replays have been a huge benefit for me, and I NEVER get tired of it. And timing has to be right. You literally have to do everything else you wanna do, leave Legion and Tali for last, and then do Tali's loyalty mission DIRECTLY after getting Legion. (or directly after Legion's loyalty mission. I'm currently replaying 1 and finished 3 a few weeks ago, so 2 is kinda blending right now XD)

    • @KritoSkywaker
      @KritoSkywaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@karabeansweet
      In my Paragon FemShep playthrough, I did Tali's Loyalty Mission after getting Legion. Then I did Legion's Loyalty Mission. 😊 And I was still able to save everyone. 😊

    • @karabeansweet
      @karabeansweet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KritoSkywaker I just recently did this as well. So yup

  • @lorewalkermaohao4602
    @lorewalkermaohao4602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1696

    "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain."
    "Or what?"
    "You... can't see my level, can you?"

    • @alternative915
      @alternative915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      clearly he's not a shop owner 🤡

    • @welkingunther5417
      @welkingunther5417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      "Do you know just how many guns I've got, can use effectively, and carry?"

    • @nickdejager8873
      @nickdejager8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      It's ME2. Your level doesn't mean much if you don't have something to crouch behind.

    • @foofoo3344
      @foofoo3344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's OVER 9000!!!!!

    • @TactiClaus
      @TactiClaus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      "Ah, Captain, your name must translate to Able in english. Well, let me introduce you to my friend Cain"

  • @Greenley013
    @Greenley013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain"
    Quarian Captain: "Or what?"
    Shepard: "Or I'll use MY intimidate option, and I doubt your helmet can survive the impact."

    • @ktmyamaha01
      @ktmyamaha01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      "hahaha, I like this human. He understands."

  • @diamondinthesky4771
    @diamondinthesky4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    Tali - "I never brought active geth onto the migrant fleet!"
    Legion - *is there*
    Talia - "This one is on Shepard, not me"!

  • @andrewouellette1954
    @andrewouellette1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Tali: "I would never bring active geth to the fleet"
    Legion: *quietly beep boops in the corner*

  • @BurningEarthProductions
    @BurningEarthProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +644

    If you bring Legion with you during Tali's Trial and explore all additional dialogue options with the admirals, send Veetor back to the Migrant Fleet instead of with Cerberus, save Kal'Reegar, and ask both Veetor and Kal'Reegar for their help standing up for her on the Rayya, you can also get the option to rally the crowd at the end of the trial, keeping Tali safe from being exiled without having to use Charm or Intimidate. :)

    • @herbertschulz4313
      @herbertschulz4313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      That works regardless of legions involvement

    • @rizkisoekartono454
      @rizkisoekartono454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Nope works for all companions not only for Legion

    • @BurningEarthProductions
      @BurningEarthProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      You are both correct. My apologies.

    • @herbertschulz4313
      @herbertschulz4313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@BurningEarthProductions no Problem mate, nice to see that there are still civilised people left on the internet

    • @KrolPawi
      @KrolPawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BurningEarthProductions nah its not so strange. I imagine there is not many people that did not bought legion into a migrant Fleet. It is kind of an obvius choice

  • @justinboivin
    @justinboivin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +913

    This is why the Mass Effect trilogy is so great. They actually acknowledge all the different ways a player can go about things. Games like Skyrim will flat out ignore major player choices, let alone the details like this.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Skyrim is of course a very different type of game. Morrowind however was more prone to recognize your choices. The issue is how much choice the player has as well as the cost of voicing all those choices. Morrowind was text mostly so it was easy to record all the many choices you could choose from. When Skyrim came out it was almost entirely voiced which means you don't get as many choices.
      true is also with Mass Effect- It ultimately is forced to limit player interactivity to an extent and can't have as many missions as it would if it was not required to voice everything.
      Moral of the story is not everything needs to be voiced. Some of my favorite missions from the ME series were un-voiced side missions.

    • @justinboivin
      @justinboivin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrChickennugget360 True, not everything needs to be voiced, but sometimes acknowledging player choice is as simple as a tweak showing in game changes. Like in Skyrim, they could have simply have made the Forsworn not hostile after helping Madanach....but then again, mods fix most problems.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@justinboivin its funny to think about but Skyrim is older than Mass Effect 3

    • @ghorstbusters6238
      @ghorstbusters6238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Skyrim is as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle. Enjoyable but superficial.

    • @TonyPajamaz
      @TonyPajamaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justinboivin some of them aren’t hostile to you. He and his forsworn are friendly when they reach their hideout.

  • @vladimirratedr4409
    @vladimirratedr4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    In Tali's defence, she said "I would never *send* active Geth to the fleet". The decision to *bring* Legion is Shepard's alone, not Tali's. Having a Geth arrive with her, is superficial evidence, since it has nothing to do with the facts of the case.

    • @absurdpotato6562
      @absurdpotato6562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      plus this time, shepard and tali both promise to kill legion if it proves to be dangerous. it's different than "sending an active geth" to a lab that may not have been prepared to combating geth.

  • @The_Greedy_Orphan
    @The_Greedy_Orphan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +831

    Whenever Chrisjen Avasarala speaks you best listen to her.

    • @bullet2800
      @bullet2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Huh?

    • @Aurica34
      @Aurica34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      @@bullet2800 Admiral Raan is voice acted by Shohreh Aghdashloo who also plays Chrisjen Avarasarala on the expanse series (hard sci fi show on Amazon adapted from the novels)

    • @danielkerber8667
      @danielkerber8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bullet2800 th-cam.com/video/cmRQXpbeA-0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AmazonPrimeVideo

    • @commandermarc
      @commandermarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Aurica34 Shohreh Aghdashloo was also in the TV series "24." I was like: oh, Admiral Raan!

    • @xyr3s
      @xyr3s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Aurica34 the expanse is also basically like a spiritual live action adaptation of mass effect. XD

  • @darkusdudemedia
    @darkusdudemedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Tali: “I’d never bring live gets to the fleet”
    Admirals: “girl what you been putting in your suit filter, we can see that metal MF right there!”

  • @CRONNOS95
    @CRONNOS95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I always love the way legions head plates all flip up a bit when he walks into guns pointing at him, like “ahh, don’t like this”

  • @dextergrif1052
    @dextergrif1052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Tali and Legion are my favorite companions, mostly because of how opposite the two are. They have a great arc of learning to work together (if you make the right decisions)

    • @goratron1
      @goratron1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Shame legion didn't come into the story earlier.

    • @primarchvulkan4013
      @primarchvulkan4013 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@goratron1it's more shameful considering that early on development Bioware was thinking about getting Legion in team much earlier. AFAIK he had unique interaction on a Garrus recruiting mission

  • @chucklytell
    @chucklytell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    More emotionally charged line in ME3: "had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong" or "Does this unit have a soul?"

    • @danielm6049
      @danielm6049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Not fair! They're both great lines! I hate how they kill off both of them too.

    • @KingTylex
      @KingTylex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "My turn... heeeh heeeh heeh..."

    • @dreadpenguinlord340
      @dreadpenguinlord340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "Shepard... did I help...?"
      -Conrad Verner, dying words

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well Mordin is sacrificing himself to right his mistakes
      Legion says that when you opt to choose the Quarians over the Geth condemning them to extinction

    • @morgatron4639
      @morgatron4639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That's not Legion's best line. When he sacrifices himself to help save the quarians and the geth, tali says he does have a soul. He just says
      "I know"
      The only time he referred to himself in the first person. Recognizing his existence as a living entity only in the last moments of his life.

  • @SunBunz
    @SunBunz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    1:04 Awwww! Legion tilts his head like a confused puppy! He’s so damn cuuuuute and innocent. 🥰

    • @anarmedrat8966
      @anarmedrat8966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "Shepard-Commander? Why do they all hate me? :'("

    • @SunBunz
      @SunBunz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@anarmedrat8966 😢💔

  • @lambo2655
    @lambo2655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    It’s amazing how great Legion makes this mission when you bring him along and the amount of new actions & dialogue Bioware put into this encounter. It’s a pity he’s such a late addition to the story, would have loved to have him on more missions.

  • @zaneex4043
    @zaneex4043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    You just answered a question I never even considered asking

  • @jaypey8253
    @jaypey8253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain"
    Quarian Captain: "Or what?"
    Shepard: " I have COVID, and im itching to take this mask OFF!"

    • @Starcat5
      @Starcat5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I am not giving this comment an upvote, but you did make me laugh.

    • @BT-ob7ve
      @BT-ob7ve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      In a realistic context that would mean the complete extinction of the quarians on that ship

    • @a_llama
      @a_llama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Starcat5petty

    • @Starcat5
      @Starcat5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@a_llama You joking? I know folks who lost loved ones. In that context, simply not voting is *HIGH PRAISE!* Gallows humor is hard to pull off while the event is still going down after all.

    • @a_llama
      @a_llama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Starcat5 here's some blinker fluid for that virtue signal of yours.

  • @metalnerd3855
    @metalnerd3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    I purposely brought legion and Tali with me just to see what would happen its great.

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same. Was not disappointed.

    • @Kratosx23
      @Kratosx23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only problem is that by taking Legion with you, you have to do Talis loyalty mission last which means you lose conversation time with her.

    • @atashgallagher5139
      @atashgallagher5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is also why bringing Javik and Liara is amazing, she talks about the protheans and the goddess, and Javik just says "Bruh, I had lunch with the guy like two weeks ago" thats the vibe at least.

  • @kereamohau
    @kereamohau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    God this just makes this game series so much more deeper. Love it

  • @oidcheclaidheimoor
    @oidcheclaidheimoor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Dozens of playthroughs never even though of doing this, props to the developers and props to you for finding it

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You never once thought "I wonder what would happen?" I did this my very first playthrough. Honestly thought it would be an instant game over.

  • @AdmiralBison
    @AdmiralBison 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    “I never brought in active Geth in to the fleet” - Tali.
    She does now (well Shepard anyway)
    Incidentally, I find it to hard to be a complete renegade through in ME2 and 3, as the character ends up too much of an anti-social a##hole for my liking. Which is probably credit to the character and dialogue created.

    • @ThisIsANameBruh
      @ThisIsANameBruh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      There's also the little difference between ME2 and ME3 where in ME2 a renegade is an asshole whereas in ME3 a renegade is basically Space Hitler.

    • @ukmaxi
      @ukmaxi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well, in ME2 it is even commented on by Garrus that him [Shep] being killed by the Collector's merely pissed him/her off.

    • @davidday1110
      @davidday1110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Really helps if you play femshep. The deliver of the renegade lines come off way better with her VA

    • @LBCAndrew
      @LBCAndrew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. I had a hard time shooting Mordin in the back when i played ME3 as renegade.

    • @adrielic_
      @adrielic_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I find it hard to play 100% one or another. Full renegade is an asshole and you loose so much content, interactions and wholesomeness. Full paragon is too much of a pussy IMO and I think it's boring. Renegon is the best way.

  • @rburbr0171
    @rburbr0171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +869

    I mean let's be honest, if during your play through you had the opportunity to bring a geth platform onto the migrant fleet and chose not to, did you REALLY play the ME trilogy? 😅

    • @Dcraft_TNT
      @Dcraft_TNT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i did it too

    • @Dcraft_TNT
      @Dcraft_TNT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@whocaresguy my man

    • @GhostGamer799
      @GhostGamer799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I did it in my first playtrouth and lost half of the soldier in normady but its a great experience

    • @granmastersword
      @granmastersword 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@GhostGamer799 if I remember correctly, you can do both Tali's and Legion's loyalty mission and still be able to save the rest of the Normandy crew. I think the only requirement is that those 2 missions are the only missions you play before the last mission

    • @TBK7913
      @TBK7913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Renegades are out of line 😂

  • @drainglaive
    @drainglaive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Legion's voice so satisfying :>

  • @MrSpartanspud
    @MrSpartanspud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Oh that's Morrigan. Well, Claudia Black. And you can really hear it in the "indeed." 😄

    • @steveh84
      @steveh84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She'll always be Officer Aeryn Sun first and foremost 😊

    • @volcanolord100
      @volcanolord100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Nah, it's always Vala Mal Doran. SG1!

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its always "Yes mommy"

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean What?

    • @johny192able
      @johny192able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not only Morrigan but Loghain as well. A mini DAO reunion 😁

  • @Dead_Guy_Bob
    @Dead_Guy_Bob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    *THIS PLATFORM IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR EXPERIMENTATION*
    Savage.

    • @AlbinosaurusR3X
      @AlbinosaurusR3X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is what iPhones say when you try to repair them.

  • @jj_grabes
    @jj_grabes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Paragon Shepard stepping in to be Legion's human shield is heartwarming even in the current situation they find themselves in. He basically said "you want Legion dead? It's a two-for-one deal."

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I used to love modding ME2 back in the day. I thought it was amazing how legion had voiced and working dialog *for the entire game* despite normally you can only recruit -him- it near the end.
    Playing with -him- it from the beginning was fascinating.

    • @syveenwolf
      @syveenwolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Originally the story was the geth bring shepherd back and legion would take on Mirandas role. At some point this was changed to Cerberus but not before legion was fully voice acted and animated for the entire game even the first mission of me2 has legion dialogue.

    • @GamingMisthios13
      @GamingMisthios13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@syveenwolf that’s incredible!

    • @vitorfranca5635
      @vitorfranca5635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@syveenwolf thats dope

    • @MarceloZ2
      @MarceloZ2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@syveenwolf I would actually prefer this to what we actually got even though what we got was already amazing. To work with the geth throughout the game and learn their ways and motivations beyond simply talking to Legion would be a sight to behold.

    • @syveenwolf
      @syveenwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MarceloZ2 unfortunately the geth way would've been very difficult to pull off in a meaningful way. Cerberus are jackasses but nobody was at war with them. Meanwhile the geth we're at war with everyone in the galaxy at one point or another. It would've been difficult to justify working with them

  • @crazypomp927
    @crazypomp927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The fact that it impacts ME3 is the best part imo. That is an extreme level of care with storytelling.

  • @lenakingsleigh
    @lenakingsleigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I swear, I feel so much sympathy for Legion. The way he just turns his head or shifts nervously as soon as the Quarians "call him out" makes me just want to hug him.
    Legion is definitely one of the best characters in the game for me, including Thane, Liara and Mordin.
    I wish we could've chosen him as a crewmate in ME3...
    I recall really enjoying his first mission!

  • @ElladanKenet
    @ElladanKenet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Would this be considered the 'canon' version of events for this mission? There's so much unique dialogue, I'm tempted to try it when Legendary Edition comes out.

    • @MrSpartanspud
      @MrSpartanspud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Unlikely. There's just so much unique dialogue because it wouldn't make any sense for it not to be acknowledged.

    • @TheOnceandFutureJake
      @TheOnceandFutureJake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think you can even bring Legion to that mission without changing the game code.

    • @orrthehunter
      @orrthehunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@TheOnceandFutureJake Tali loyality mission can be done with Legion after you recuit Legion. The game gives you two Major Missions timer before the events that lead to the suicide mission happens so you basically recuit legion last and after you just complete both Tali and Legion Loyality mission after then the event where the crew is taken happens.

    • @KappaKiller108
      @KappaKiller108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@orrthehunter If you don't care about rescuing the crew you could do it so you bring legion on every loyalty mission, It's a wonderfully flexible game

    • @Zomdra
      @Zomdra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I mean, there's no true, single canon in Mass Effect (at this point anyway, we'll see what ME4 does) but even if there was I don't think bringing Legion here would be canon. It feels _really_ inexplicable that any version of Shepard would choose to take it there since it's so obviously a bad idea. It's like choosing obviously incorrect squadmates for tasks on the suicide mission; sure you _can_ do it but it's inconceivable that Shepard could be that stupid.

  • @colemims6977
    @colemims6977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember being in tears laughing when I first did this. I thought about this possibility one night years ago and redid an entire playthrough just to see if it was possible.
    "Tali you're being accused of bringing active get to the fleet"
    "What!? That's insane."
    Lmao!

    • @mikicerise6250
      @mikicerise6250 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd never do anything like that... before today!

  • @Empiro3
    @Empiro3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I already knew what happens if you bring Legion to the trial having played ME2 a whole bunch of times, but I'm most impressed that it has an effect on ME3. They took time to write in a line that maybe 1 in 1000 players would hear.

    • @Dark_Voice
      @Dark_Voice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think there are way more people that tried this than you think.

  • @jaroslavmihok740
    @jaroslavmihok740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    this is reason why Mass Effect is Legend and Bioware too despite all bad things ...

  • @takkarsasori8961
    @takkarsasori8961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Shepard Commander" i love that with the geth voice.

  • @dogegaming9036
    @dogegaming9036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    I hate that getting Legion is tied to how many crew members die in ME2, forces you to get him right at the end if you want the best ending.
    Edit: I am referring to your non-combat crewmates like Kelly Chambers and Dr. Chakwas, not the ME2 Squadmates that go with you on missions.

    • @orrthehunter
      @orrthehunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      you will have atleast two missions to complete before you have to make the choice to go after your crew once you recruit Legion. That is enough time to finish Tali and Legion loyality mission but yes you have to get Legion last if you want everyone to survive.

    • @TheNocturnal1
      @TheNocturnal1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      orrthehunter and to Romance Tali before mission start

    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      There's a mod called Mass Effect 2 Recalibrated, I just don't know how to install it. It lets you get Legion at any time after you get the Reaper IFF mission by giving you control over when to install said IFF and opens up Illium early so you can get Thane and Samara before Horizon. I'm pretty sure you can recruit Tali early too.

    • @jamesashlee1784
      @jamesashlee1784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AnimeShinigami13 it’s been a while since I’ve played mass effect 2, but I’m fairly certain there’s a mod manager similar to what dragon age origins had. It’s either in the games files already, or you have to install it separately.
      It’s either that, or I remember there being some very detailed installation instructions in the files of the mod itself

    • @johnnyboogalo4897
      @johnnyboogalo4897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      There was cut content where legion was going to be one of first squadmates you get in fact it was the geth who bring shepard back to life in that cut content.Would have been cool to see that

  • @ThrdSonofSparda
    @ThrdSonofSparda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I bring Legion on Tali's loyalty mission all the time. Just to piss off the other Quarians.

  • @JyujinPlus
    @JyujinPlus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Really makes me happy that Koris discusses peace with Legion. I wish he tried to make a more serious case for it but still

  • @healed1337
    @healed1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I did this for the fun of it on my first renegade playthrough, and I've done it every time since. Quite possibly the best extra squad mate dialogue in a loyalty mission in the entire franchise. Also always take Tali on Legion's loyalty mission. Best way to do that while still ensuring squad survival in the suicide mission, make sure you only save Tali's loyalty mission for after you get the Reaper IFF, do Tali's loyalty mission next, and then go straight to Legion's loyalty mission. Also make sure to get all of your ship upgrades and other hub planet upgrades before you get the Reaper IFF.

  • @mordha86
    @mordha86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I feel like I never get enough dialog with Legion because he’s always the last team member I pick up 😂

    • @lewismartin3430
      @lewismartin3430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same and that's because of the reaper IFF countdown. If you could choose when to start the install THEN the two mission timer begins it would be so much better

  • @liamclarke91
    @liamclarke91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Get that damn thing off my ship!"
    "When I take Tali aboard council stations, the customs guys sometimes call her 'that thing'."

  • @mikec4529
    @mikec4529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I played through this scene like 7 different times. I’ve never actually seen what happens if you DON’T bring legion

    • @YourCrazyDolphin
      @YourCrazyDolphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The intial step onto the ship is far more friendly, with the guard expressing sympathy for Tali's position.
      Koris objects to Shepard representing Tali, to which you can point out that he's the one who changed Tali's legal name... And thus the reason you're her lawyer.
      Background chatter is instead people questioning whether or not Tali is innocent, and commenting on Shepard's ability to handle the court.
      Admiral Xen still obsesses over experimenting on Geth, but just in general. Tali still calls her insane.

  • @jordanwilliams676
    @jordanwilliams676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tali'Zorah:I would never bring an active Geth onboard.
    Shepard:It's true, she wouldn't..........but I would, for the lols.

  • @rachellejanssen2655
    @rachellejanssen2655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was from the old glory days of bioware, how times have changed...I can't wait for the remaster to come out!

    • @rachellejanssen2655
      @rachellejanssen2655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @I.M. Shirley Rongh yeah I have to say, I bought the remaster. It's super awesome and all but the 11th time mass effect isn't going to be wildly different from the 10th time :/ I wanted to do a 100% back to back run, but I'm not even halfway in ME1

  • @Re.Configured
    @Re.Configured 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In this alternate dimension, Morrigan, Loghain, and Avernus are quarian admirals leading the remnants of a species trying to survive

  • @IDontKnow-lo2tu
    @IDontKnow-lo2tu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    At 5:41 Legion nods in agreement with Tali. A nice little detail

  • @battlesheep2552
    @battlesheep2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Last time I played, I planned it out. I knew after getting Legion, you could only do 2 missions before the Collectors abduct your crew and you had to go to the base immediately to get the best ending. One is Legion's loyalty mission, of course, the other is Tali's, which I saved just so I could bring Legion along :)

  • @ghostofdestiny3179
    @ghostofdestiny3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the daily upload can't wait for legendary edition

  • @DarKGameR177
    @DarKGameR177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now this was a fun video... Thanks for sharing this one Dan! Keep it up! 👍

  • @Flameville
    @Flameville 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like I’m playing this entire series again. My God what an incredible trilogy

  • @orwinbeane4171
    @orwinbeane4171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This reminds of when I brought Nick Valentine to the Prydwin in Fallout 4.

  • @deridionentertainment
    @deridionentertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I’ve played mass effect trilogy 6 to 7 time play through seen most of the video you have shown myself by playing it before but for the first time I never seen this or thought to do this as an option. Subscribed!!

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tali: I *never* brought active geth aboard!
    Legion: We judge this situation to be "awkward" Creator Zorah.

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember doing this cause I was like "what would happen". Glad I did and that they took into account

  • @garyghost7169
    @garyghost7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy shit man your channel’s growing like a Krogan, keep up the good work

  • @SirDonkle
    @SirDonkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Legion has some of the best lines of the trilogy

  • @idkkkkk5194
    @idkkkkk5194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This game is an absoulte masterpiece I don't think there is any other game with such passion and attention to details.

  • @dreamgoat28
    @dreamgoat28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was hilarious. Thanks again and keep up the great work.

  • @getrekt3983
    @getrekt3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    she says she would never "send" active geth to the migrant fleet. technically she isn't lying. she didn't send legion there, she brought him. there is a difference no matter how subtle

  • @bobyjoe493
    @bobyjoe493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man your videos made me go back and start a new game of me2

  • @cinders5305
    @cinders5305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Legions little head tilts, like a confused puppy are adorable. Like it genuinely doesn't understand why everyone is freaking out and scared of it

  • @alibeknurashev1954
    @alibeknurashev1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good luck, Dan! Just here to support

  • @ninachan8920
    @ninachan8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I strive for enjoying all the small details in the grand scheme of things when it comes to Mass Effect, Especially Mass Effect 3 which I used to feel differently about it's amazing how 10 years since you've played a game can change how you enjoy the game as you change as well.

  • @Joe-fq6bz
    @Joe-fq6bz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool thanks for sharing. One of my favorite games I played many times and had entirely no clue. Never even crossed my mind this was possible.

  • @roberttauzer7042
    @roberttauzer7042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Aaaand still, best RPG ever made.

  • @sprzedawcapaczy
    @sprzedawcapaczy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in awe. Seriously. I was not expecting anyone to dissect these things that much. Thank you.

  • @chunghinsun5899
    @chunghinsun5899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a constant for all my play throughs. Since there's an invisible timer of 2 missions from getting to Legion to the trigger of the potential end game event, I always do Legions and Tali's loyalty mission within that time.

  • @Hamoa
    @Hamoa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video, I never thought of it but it’s super interesting

  • @stevecolour8010
    @stevecolour8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That line at 1:20 never fails to crack me up, especially these days. It really sounds like Shepard is in Karen mode.

  • @mackerelle9789
    @mackerelle9789 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They many layers they put into this beautiful onion of a masterpiece!

  • @zataomm93
    @zataomm93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was a "no brainer" on the second playthrough. I had to do it.

  • @moontotem8090
    @moontotem8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another amazing video, thanks a lot Dan ! :)

  • @rollin340
    @rollin340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. The ME2 affecting that line of dialogue in ME3 was some great detail from the team.

  • @CKshouta
    @CKshouta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You thought Tali brought active geth to the fleet, BUT IT WAS ME, SHEPHARD!

  • @forceraider451
    @forceraider451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Somehow this makes my feelings towards the ending of Mass Effect 3 even stronger.
    There should have always been a way to destroy the reapers without killing all sentient AI and allow for Shepard to survive.
    The game was always about playing it your way and Shepard was right when he said reaper tech was too dangerous.

    • @ladyreverie7027
      @ladyreverie7027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is why I would never use the Destroy option. I'd rather die than genocide the geth. Ever since I heard their story in ME1 I sympathised with them and longed to broker peace between them and the quarians.

    • @realquestforgreatness
      @realquestforgreatness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The geth are alive in the destroy ending. At least in legendary edition

    • @Goremize
      @Goremize ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realquestforgreatness which doesn't make much sense "it won't discriminate" "also you have to sac yourself" "Also somehow the Geth are discriminated"

    • @lewismartin3430
      @lewismartin3430 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Goremize maybe their rebuilt. If the mass relays can be restored like the starchild says then why not the geth

  • @GabrielFatality
    @GabrielFatality 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11 years and I never thought about doing that

  • @kaza5608
    @kaza5608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:52 Technically Tali is still correct in saying SHE would never send active Geth to the fleet because Legion being their was Shepard's decision. Tali even protests while walking onto the ship at the beginning of the mission.

  • @nostalgiclamb7510
    @nostalgiclamb7510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BioWare went from "This platform is not available for experimentation" to "Anthem"

  • @ReinQuest
    @ReinQuest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your comment on how the interactions make this more immersive is why ME still holds a place in my heart that no other game can fill.

  • @GordonShemway1
    @GordonShemway1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos man, I don't think Bioware gets enough credit for planning for all the intricacies that can happen over the three games. Especially for scenarios that most players would never experience without doing it on purpose.

  • @MoonbornUwU
    @MoonbornUwU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love Geth, by far my favorite species.

    • @quesocoatl21
      @quesocoatl21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they're the most alien but also very relatable.

  • @jaysheriffe6292
    @jaysheriffe6292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    old bioware/ EA.....a time when they paid attention to details. We didn't know how good we had it back then :(

  • @Jesse12489
    @Jesse12489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you bring Logion they actually acknowledged him and treat him a lot better in Mass Effect 3.

  • @SnapshotNautilus
    @SnapshotNautilus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe I haven't done this before! Thanks for sharing!

  • @archangelgv2811
    @archangelgv2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When Legion said "Shepherd-Commander" on the Derelict Reaper mission, he was meant to be a squad mate.

  • @SERGIO5011gamer
    @SERGIO5011gamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    your mass effect guides are the best bro, keep it up 🤟

  • @NobodyHere951
    @NobodyHere951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This option is great fun, it's worth doing once despite the fact you need to leave Tali's mission until the end of the game.

  • @Kevin_2435
    @Kevin_2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Admirals: Tali we accuse you of sending some possibly active geth parts to the fleet.
    Tali: hold my beer

  • @tombardsley3081
    @tombardsley3081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m always scared to do the loyalty mission after recruiting legion cos have heard it might cost your crew that gets abducted

    • @winternet9478
      @winternet9478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think he made a video about that, you should check it out

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@winternet9478 oh ok. I’ll have to look for it. Just that when I’ve played through it and seen other play throughs they haven’t done that. Barring one when I saw Pete Complete do it and I was like “interesting. Might have to investigate for myself when I get to that point in the game”

    • @BigDanGaming
      @BigDanGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Here's a link to my video on how to save everyone th-cam.com/video/EPVP1K8Ti3s/w-d-xo.html
      You can complete Legion's loyalty mission and still save the crew so long as you do it before they get kidnapped by Collectors. Once the crew gets nabbed you have to do the final mission straightaway or you'll lose some of them

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigDanGaming yeah I got that part but wasn’t sure if you did both tali’s and legion’s loyalty missions after you recruit legion, does that have an affect on crew deaths following abduction? Ie does crew abduction trigger at any point before you do both tali’s and legion’s loyalty after recruiting legion or only afterwards?

    • @YourCrazyDolphin
      @YourCrazyDolphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tombardsley3081 I know this is late but if you have a few missions piled up, you can immediately do Tali's loyalty mission, then unlock Legion's, then do his before the collector attack since you get 2 missions.
      Alternatively... You can just do it after the suicide mission.

  • @Jayhawker2000
    @Jayhawker2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I never brought active Geth aboard! I Only sent parts and pieces," she says while standing next to Legion.

  • @Survivor_of_DMVdrivers
    @Survivor_of_DMVdrivers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I realize it's two separate universes / IPs, but can you imagine the banter between Legion and HK47 from Star Wars: KotOR? That'd be the best interaction EVER! 😊

  • @thomasprout9298
    @thomasprout9298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn game looks so good I didn’t even realize it was the og version.

  • @CameraObscure
    @CameraObscure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ha just at the point of recruitring Legion via IFF mission having recruited everyone else and all loyalty missions done except for Tali's and Legions OFC. Wanted to see what the Quarians reactions would be like. Been a tough slog getting to this point for me doing it on insanity mode. Its gonna be fun. will enjoy this (2 hrs ) after this comment was posted 🥇☣🔚.

  • @Whalewraith
    @Whalewraith ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how I have played this game multiple times and there's still stuff I've never seen.
    As I understand it to save Kelly you have only 1 mission to undertake after the getting the reaper Iff which pretty much has to be Legions loyalty mission. So it's removing a save everyone playthrough off the table. I always thought it was a shame I didn't get to hang out with Legion more. It didn't occur to me that Bioware would put the effort in for something so few people would see.
    ME2 is still my favourite game, I've yet to see anything like it for having all your decisions shape the outcome.
    New subscriber so I understand this is an old video, I just picked up the Legendary edition for a replay and my love for the franchise has come back as strong as ever.