The Kiloview tutorial will probably be up end of this week. Belabox will take a little longer, as a lot of things have changed lately, but it has gotten a lot easier.
I have a GH5 ii and I discovered that not all USB power banks can be used to power this camera. They appear to work but they are not powering the camera, they are charging the battery; however, the camera is using power faster than it can be charged. It shut down while I was shooting a dance show. I replaced it with a better USB battery and now it runs for a very long time without a hitch.
That's ok. The GH6 was never listed on those. Hence why I diid the tests, to ensure, they do work with the GH6. I've also located a dummy, that works with the GH6 when powered from D-tap now and added to the description.
Great vid. ut searching for an option with less wires and lesss a lot of everything. just want the dummy battery small chord plugged into a stationary power attached to the camera.
Your video is very interesting. I'm using a G9II. For having all video modes I understand that I need a powerbank 9v x 3A = 27W. I found an Anker 533 - 30W. I found a factice battery DMW-DCC17 with usb c... but I only have the restricted video modes. Nothing changes. I don't undersdtand....
Just because the powerbank is rated 30W, doesn't mean it has the 9V 3A profile. Check the actual specifications of the power bank to ensure, it has that profile. Very few powerbanks under 45W rating have it. 45W and higher generally have it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks very much for your answer. It is well rated on the battery USB-C Output : 5V 3A / 9V 3A / 12V 2.5A..... I also tested with a Charmast powerbank 100W with USB-C Output : 5V 3A / 9V 3A / 12V 3A / 15V 3A / 20V 5A.... it's the same it doesn't work !... I do not know what to think !... 🙄🙄🙄
I.m.o it is better to go for the dummy BLK22 than use the usb method for the gh6. In that way you have the usb free for recording to external memory bank, prommised by panasonic in a firmware update
We share a similar stable of cameras, save for the GH6. The GH5II makes me wonder if it is even necessary. When I thought the GH6 was going to be a $2500 camera, it was simple. The $2199 price tag turned it into a bit of a conundrum. However, the lack of battery grip sobered my thoughts. I use the grip on all my cameras. I also have the DC Coupler too. I liked the added security of having the in camera battery as a fail safe, should something go awry. From the battery grip, I tend to feed the cable through a sleeve and down a jacket or shirt into a jacket pocket or back pant pocket, where rests the power bank. I think it is a better solution than having the USB-C cable sticking out of the side of the camera. It seems more conducive for the connector to break, especially in run and gun situations… …
The link to the Anker website is broken, but it's not discontinued. You can also follow underneath the power bank to the official list of supported power banks. That's always the best source. Panasonic do list a few different ones there. The important key factor is, that the power bank needs to support the 9V 3A profile on USB-C PD.
The dummy battery I listed will operate on a 18W PD port, which is ok for a GH4, GH5 or GH5-II. For the GH6, you will need at least a 30W PD port. The same requirement, as if you powered it through the USB-C port. 9V 3A.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual So, if I get the dummy battery in description, can I use my 18w powerbank in my GH5 MK2 over usb? I mean, using both, dummy battery and powerbank to operate the camera.
Thank you for the video! Brother, could you help me, please? So, to use the GH6 charging it via USB I need 9v3A, right? I have a doubt about the dummy battery... how much volts and ampere do I need to charge it via dummy battery? I saw you put the USB-C at the same port, but, since that powerbank is a PD version, it may deliver 5V3A or 9V3A, right? So, Do I use the same 9V3A for the dummy battery or is it only 5V3A? Huge Thanks for your help!! Peace!
If you get a USB-C PD dummy, then the dummy tells the battery bank, what it is supposed to deliver. As long the USB-C port is rated 30W or more, you will be fine. Nothing to set by you. It is coded into the USB-C port from factory.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual thank you for your answer. I'm afraid that information will not help me at my level of knowledge on the subject. Let me try to tell you at my level of ignorance: I'm searching for a PD power bank to be used via USB-C or/and via dummy battery. The PD power banks I have seen offer some voltage options like 5V3A, 9V3A, 12V... Etc. They are not the same and they do not have the same specifications, those voltages and amperes change from one PD power bank to another. So, I'd like to know what are the recommended voltage and ampere to use on camera's USB-C and with the dummy battery. I didn't know the dummy battery might be PD too. Are there any voltage and ampere specifications you could share with me for the dummy battery? Is 5V2A ok? Or it must be 9V3A too? Sorry for my broken English...
@@NatanRufino The voltages are all uniform. Different ports support different voltage, but USB-C PD ports generally all support at least 5V, 9V and a few others. You need a power bank that can output 9V on USB-C PD and 3A output or more. No less and no other voltages. Otherwise it will not work. All the other voltages listed have no interest to you. The easiest indicator is to look at, if the port can output 9V and how many watt it is rated for. If it is rated for more than 30W, it's good. If it's only 18W, then you can not use it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Yes, I've learned that from you. Thanks a lot. My last doubt was about the voltage and ampere that would need to go to the dummy battery. I have read all your commentaries here and I think you've said somewhere that it must be the same 9V3A the USB port needs. Right? 🖖🏻😘
@@NatanRufino Correct. I've had some reports from people, that some dummy batteries don't deliver enough power. The camera then just behaves like you stuck a BLF-19 into it and doesn't give you access to all modes. The ones, I've linked give access to everything.
I bought this same dummy battery for my GH6, with the Anker PowerCore III Elite 19200 60W Power Bank Bundle with 65W PD, and the dummy battery doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Disconnect the connector between dummy and USB-C connector. Plug the cable into the power bank first and the dummy into the camera. Then connect that barrel plug last.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I tried that and still get nothing. This is the second of this same dummy battery that I've tried. I'll just stick with a regular battery and this power bank. Thanks for the quick reply!
Ehi man thank you for the fast reply! So I do have an npf 970 baxxtar (7.2 v) and I’m looking for a battery plate that can work for the gh5 mark 2 during recording. Do u have any recommendations? ( I saw the smallrIg plate but I’m not sure about that)
@@franzpi94 I sometimes use a NP-F to V-mount adapter, like the Protastic one ( amzn.to/3NEUPSe ), but that would require you to have a V-mount plate also. Andycine have a NP-F adapter, that has D-tap out and USB PD out. I have one ordered, but it has not arrived yet, so I have not tested it yet. The USB-C PD out may be enough for the GH5 II, it's not enough for the GH6. ( amzn.to/3MRhcnK )
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Ehi man it's me again! So I did bought the Andycine plate but it doesn't work during recording (there is still the message that ask to turn off the camera). So I'm gonna try another solution or maybe the v mount plate that you are using!
Yes, you can. The charger that comes with the GH6 actually only is 1.5A, if I recall right. Any odd USB charger will charge the battery, while the camera is off. Lower amps or voltage just means, it takes longer.
So 9v/3a is only important to charge whilst using the camera. But to deliver power when the battery is fully charged, you can use less (volt/amp) from my testing. Is it the same for you?
It depends a bit. You can supply less, but it will drain the internal battery then. Also, if you supply less than 2A, it will ask you to turn the camera off to charge it. So it is always wise to supply it with the correct power.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Hmm so far the internal battery hasn't drained but the power bank has. My issue is that my powerbank stays on even when camera is off (cannot switch off power bank manually), but when using the lower amp version (USB A), it switches off when battery is full. I will continue testing and see how it holds up. Thanks for the video.
@@kudobeats A lot of powerbanks turn themselves on, when the connected device negotiates USB-C PD. Also, even when you turn your camera off, it'll still request power to charge the battery. Your battery bank then not turning off, when the internal battery of the camera is full is something, Panasonic potentially can fix in firmware. You might want to send support a mail about that.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Yeah it's strange, because even when I take the battery out of the camera, it is still "requesting" power from the power bank. But the USB A method is working fine, the battery needs to be charged beforehand but it works just fine. Panasonic don't even want to fix Cinelike D2, I doubt they will fix anything else for the Mark II lol. Thanks for the help!
Hello, how do you manage to have all the recording profiles on your GH6 because when I put my DMW-DCC12 dummy battery from my old GH5 in my GH6 I no longer have access to 5.7k or C4k 100MBPS while on your video I see that you have access to it. Thank you.
That's very much down to, what kind of a dummy, you are using. The one I've linked in the description is a USB-C PD based battery dummy and seems to deliver enough current for the GH6 to think, that it has a DMW-BLK22 battery installed.
@@Nessaiepasfaisle I have now added links to another dummy in the description, that works of USB-A QC3 and also delivers sufficient power. I meant to test this before, but had not got around to it yet.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thank you for the link. It turns out that I tried with my 8 volt V-Mount Tilta plate and my FX Lion BP-160 battery + the GH5 dummy battery and I still don't have access to all the video codecs. I must have missed something somewhere.
@@Nessaiepasfaisle 8V is not enough. The dummy's that I use output somewhere between 8.4-8.8V minimum. Nearer to 9V anyhow. And that's probably the difference there. But it really also depends on how the dummy is coded. If it's an older dummy, it may have been coded as a BLF-19 battery, which is what was used in the GH4 and GH5 and that's why you don't get the extra resolutions. The voltage is not the only contributing factor here.
Hi. Thanks for this video. It was quite instructive. However, I'm having issues when powering my GH5 II with my Anker power bank (Power Core III Sense 20k). Each time I try to power the camera with the USB-C port (and also trying to charge the battery at the same time) it only gives me the USB warning. I don't know if I did something wrong but I was hoping if you could help me with that, please ? Thanks in advance and keep up with the good work.
Your battery bank only has a 18W USB-C PD port, meaning it can only supply 9V 2A. So you can either power the camera or charge the battery. That's why you get that screen. You need a battery bank with 9V 3A profile to both power and charge the camera, so minimum 27W.
Hi. Thank you for a very informative video. Just want to check that the F1TP DMW-DCC12 USB-C Power Adapter DC Coupler Charger Set (Dummy Battery) will work with the GH6 ?, and the voltage is correct for the GH6 from the DC to DC convertor in the cable.
Just noticed further in the comments that you have tested it to work. I have the same powerbank from Anker and that works fine with my Sony A7-IV. Many thanks.
Very interesting video. Clear explanations. Can you give the links to buy your Anker battery which is suitable to run the GH6 without its battery with the F1TP DMW-DCC12 USB-C Power Adapter DC Coupler Charger Set?
I have now added links in the video description to the 2 Anker Powerbanks, that I know work and deliver sufficient current. As it really varies from country to country, where and how you can obtain these, I'm not supplying direct links to sellers. Shipping is always tricky with Lithium batteries.
Hi! Thanks a lot for the video, really needed this information! One cuestion, can you use the FOTGA dummy battery to charge the camera with the wall adaptor from the Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD 45W? I'm sceptical about the amperage and if the dummy battery has an amp converter. Thank you!
It does work with that battery bank. It also works with the wall charger from the Anker power bank, yes. The Anker battery and wall charger do not have the 12V profile, so what USB PD does, it drops down to 9V then. That is still more, than what the dummy needs to drive the camera. And yes, the dummy regulates the voltage for the camera.
That's all part of the dummy battery kit. The way most USB-C dummy battery kits work, is that you separate the cable from the dummy, connect the cable to the battery, place the dummy in the camera and only then connect them. It has something to do with how PD (power delivery) communicates with the power bank.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I do have a dummy battery, but it has a short cable with a connecter and then would connect to a power source, usually a plug in power source. I am looking for a cable that would be able to plug into the dummy battery cable and have a usb-c at the other end. Thanks again
@@Roman3718 The issue is, that different dummy batteries are build up differently. You need to match up your dummy battery with the power source, that it came with. Otherwise you risk of damaging your camera. This dummy battery kit, that I've linked in the description, is fairly inexpensive and is a complete matching kit to power a Panasonic GH series camera from USB-C.
Similar to viewer Knutsen Lars Öivind, I purchased an Anker Power Core 3 elite (26K / 87W), figuring there was plenty of power there to run the GH6. The camera recognized the device, asked to select PC Tether, and once I did, it went into "please wait..." mode and has been there ever since. (I've let it run for 15 minutes, but nothing) Even after unplugging and shutting down and trying again, that's the only screen I see (while using the device). It doesn't even ask to PC tether anymore, goes straight to "please wait". I'm using the usb 3 cable that came with the device. Any suggestions? Please and thank you.
I am just looking for a dummy battery with an adapter to get power from a socket in the wall. Unfortunately my GH5 one is 2A and for the GH6 it's 3A right? What do I do? Thanks!
The dummies, I've listed fit the GH4, GH5, GH5-II and GH6. USB-A one even comes with wall-plug. It doesn't matter if the camera requires less. It's only a problem if the requires more ampere.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks! I’m sorry I probably explained myself wrong. I bought the GH6 and I am looking for a way to get power from the socket in te wall. That last link in your description is 5V 3A but that’s not enough for the GH6 right? I use my GH6 in my studio space and I don’t want powerbanks etc, just a cable from the camera to the wall. Thanks!
@@ThijsGoedegebuure It doesn't seem to need quite as much power, when powered through the dummy. Both the dummies work with the GH6 and with all modes available. Even when using that wall plug.
I bought the DMW-BLF19 Dummy battery you linked in your description, and it does not unlock all resolutions in my GH6, into a v-mount battery via USB. Does the GH6 need to use the 8V or D-tap in order to run off of a v-mount battery?
I assume, it is the USB variant you are talking about with the power brick. What ampere is the USB port in the V-mount rated at ? And is it a QC3 port ? There is a difference with these ports. A QC3 port can provide 9V. Have you tried it with the power brick that came with it and checked, if it unlocks all the modes then?
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I have a smallrig 3204 (v mount plate). It has a 5v/2amp USB, 8v DC, 12v DC, and 14.8v d-tap. The v mount battery is an swx neo 9, with a 5v usb and smart d-tap with 12vdc. I can see the USB isn't powerful enough from either unit. Would I need a d-tap dummy battery? I've only found one that says it can power a GH6 from Kondor Blue. But the spiral chord doesn't fit through the porthole of the dummy battery door on the GH6. It seems there are no viable v-mount dummy battery options available. 😭
@Bret Snyder I have the SmallRig 3497 and the Switronix Pro-X V-mounts myself. The dummy needs 9.5-9.9V to power the GH6 fully. The 8V port on the SmallRig does deliver enough current to power a GH5, but it won't allow for the GH6. I have two P-tap/D-tap solutions in the post arriving next week, that I will be testing with the GH6. If those are successful, there will be a V-mount follow up video. In theory, it would also be possible to rig something using a buck-converter and the 12V port of the V-mount, but if you're not electronically inclined, i'd advise against it. Anton Bauer make a Canon 9V P-tap cable for the Canon DR-E6C dummy and the Canon R5C, that outputs the correct voltage, but it doesn't have the correct connector to fit into the Panasonic dummy. That could be adapted and provide a solution, if all else fails.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I just ordered the D-tap to GH6 dummy battery from Kondor Blue: KB_DT_LS5GH5. It SHOULD work. I don't like the coiled wire as it won't fit through the porthole of the dummy battery door, but I can't see any other options atm. Looking forward to what you find out.
Thanks a lot. Now we have SSD-option for the GH6. Could you tell us what kind of dummy and battery option might work for that case? Do I need 9V3A as well for powering? Just in case you might know already, thanks again in advance
If you look at the bottom of the description of the video, I've listed 3 different dummies (one USB-C, one USB QC3.0 and one D-tap) that work for me and give me all modes in the GH6.
Thank you, I connected the anker powerbank (recommended) to the dummy battery (recommended) and it doesn't work, the device turns on fine, but it turns off when I activate the boosted dynamics or when I activate the "SSD" function is this normal?
It should most certainly not turn off. However, I made the video before USB-C SSD recording was available, so didn't get to test that then. I did receive another USB-C dummy this week that even has the extra connections at the top and have just finished testing that. It works in all modes and with USB-C SSD reliably. The description of the video has been updated and the link to that dummy added. It can unfortunately only be got on Amazon.com, but at least they handle customs etc.
Is there any problem if I power my GH6 (with a dummy) and monitor from the same NP-F 550 battery? I've seen people discussing it could fry the hdmi port, is it true?
Just make sure, that the HDMI always is the last cable to plug in. The reason, that people fry their HDMI ports when using the same battery, is that the camera or the monitor tries to use the HDMI as ground plane (draw power across it). Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Cameras are especially prone to it.
Hi Emerald boss, I have a question... I have GH6 markII and my AIM is to charge this camera VIA USB-C port in camera. Is that possible? Last time I did use the origan charger - but than camera shuts down after about 90min. I found here in text - that the original charger is not having enaugh strenght - just only about 1,5A - so if you would buy some stronger USB-C charger, you think that´s gonna work out? :) Thanks for your time!
GH6 ? or GH5-II ? Either, this applies to both. You need a USB-C PD charger, that can output 9V 3A. That'll work, yes. Most USB-C chargers rated 45W or more have this profile.
Personally, I've gone with the Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD 45W. Be aware, that there are 3 versions of the 26800 model (at the very least), so the the important bit is the "PD 45W" portion.
@@cyklzycia8814 The issue is, you need 9V 3A. That's 30W. Minimum. There is very little smaller, that will be able to deliver that. Most smaller battery banks only have 18W PD ports and that is not enough.
Hey man, I’m having an issue. I’m using Anker PowerCore III Elite 26k 87w pd, but everytime I plug in the usb c to usb c cable, the usb mode menu pops up. Any suggestions or fix to this?
Unfortunately it won't. The USB-C PD port on that battery bank is rated 18W. You need 30W. It will charge your battery, while the camera is turned off though. But the battery logo, while in use, will likely not appear. I'm actually not sure, if it might supplement the internal battery, but still drain it. I have an Anker 20000 mAh pack like that. I might test and see, what the GH6 says to it.
Hi, I checked it. Both the GH5-II and the GH6 will go into an infinite loop looking for a storage device or something, if you plug an 18W rated power bank into them. So you really only can use them to charge your battery inside the camera, while the camera is off.
I've also updated the description with Amazon links on the 45W one for US, UK and Germany now. They can be hard enough to find due to the shipping restrictions on batteries.
Disappointing that powering via USB-C doesn't work without the battery, I do a lot of streaming and I don't want to wear out the battery for no reason when I'm running off mains power.
As long as your USB power bank is powerful enough (PD 30W !!), your battery doesn't get used, so it should have no wear on your battery. But the system seems to need it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual if you have a dummy battery, can you connect your PD powerbank to the power the camera via USB-C instead of through the dummy battery cable? I'm asking specifically for the GH5 ii as I look at options to reduce weight of my rig (which is used to film sports on an extremely tall tripod). Thanks!
@@EmeraldAudiovisual thanks for the quick response, but perhaps I was unclear. I’m asking whether the GH5-II can be powered through USB-C port while a dummy battery is inserted (but not connected to the power bank).
Thanks for your guide on how to power GH6 by an external powerbank. I just bought a anker powerbank with max 87watt 9volt and 3 amp. Its also said that it have PD Power delivery. However I cant get it to supply power to the camera when operating. When I plugg in the USB C I get a menu up at the camera screen that tell me to choose one of three options. It asks if I plugged in a PC (storage), PC (tether) or Pictbridge(PTP) . I also never see the little symbol over the battery indikator that tells if camera is supplied by the power bank. It clearly say in the manual that the powerbank have PD. Please, what is missing?
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I already tried that without success! I also tried different cables. I just can't get it to work. This is the 4th powerbank I tried.
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Cool stuff man! Can't wait to see your video about Belabox setup and Kiloview!
The Kiloview tutorial will probably be up end of this week. Belabox will take a little longer, as a lot of things have changed lately, but it has gotten a lot easier.
I have a GH5 ii and I discovered that not all USB power banks can be used to power this camera. They appear to work but they are not powering the camera, they are charging the battery; however, the camera is using power faster than it can be charged. It shut down while I was shooting a dance show. I replaced it with a better USB battery and now it runs for a very long time without a hitch.
That is, when they supply less than 9V 3A. Check the specifications of the power bank. If it says 9V 2A, then it is not enough.
What is best power bank for GH7?
Was the first power bank 9V 2A? Or is it the same power bank (9V 3A)? This video is so confusing.
Hello I followed your link to amazon for the dummy battery for the GH-6.. I found all the other GHs but NOT the GH-6.
That's ok. The GH6 was never listed on those. Hence why I diid the tests, to ensure, they do work with the GH6. I've also located a dummy, that works with the GH6 when powered from D-tap now and added to the description.
Great vid. ut searching for an option with less wires and lesss a lot of everything. just want the dummy battery small chord plugged into a stationary power attached to the camera.
I would suggest the dummy with the USB-C PD connector then and straight into a USB-C PD charger or brick.
Your video is very interesting. I'm using a G9II. For having all video modes I understand that I need a powerbank 9v x 3A = 27W. I found an Anker 533 - 30W. I found a factice battery DMW-DCC17 with usb c... but I only have the restricted video modes. Nothing changes. I don't undersdtand....
Just because the powerbank is rated 30W, doesn't mean it has the 9V 3A profile. Check the actual specifications of the power bank to ensure, it has that profile.
Very few powerbanks under 45W rating have it. 45W and higher generally have it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks very much for your answer. It is well rated on the battery USB-C Output : 5V 3A / 9V 3A / 12V 2.5A..... I also tested with a Charmast powerbank 100W with USB-C Output : 5V 3A / 9V 3A / 12V 3A / 15V 3A / 20V 5A.... it's the same it doesn't work !... I do not know what to think !... 🙄🙄🙄
Very useful information, Thanks!
Lots of great info, well explained. Thank you!
Thanks for your patience and replies. Roman
My pleasure!
Sory ! Compatible and GH5 II Power Bank RivaCase VA1080 ? thank you !
I.m.o it is better to go for the dummy BLK22 than use the usb method for the gh6. In that way you have the usb free for recording to external memory bank, prommised by panasonic in a firmware update
When it comes, yes. But all down to your personal application. Hence I described both methods.
Best explaination I’ve seen. Thanks!
We share a similar stable of cameras, save for the GH6. The GH5II makes me wonder if it is even necessary. When I thought the GH6 was going to be a $2500 camera, it was simple. The $2199 price tag turned it into a bit of a conundrum. However, the lack of battery grip sobered my thoughts. I use the grip on all my cameras. I also have the DC Coupler too.
I liked the added security of having the in camera battery as a fail safe, should something go awry. From the battery grip, I tend to feed the cable through a sleeve and down a jacket or shirt into a jacket pocket or back pant pocket, where rests the power bank. I think it is a better solution than having the USB-C cable sticking out of the side of the camera. It seems more conducive for the connector to break, especially in run and gun situations…
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The only reason, I got the GH5-II, was that it had the streaming capabilities.
Could you add a link for the dummy battery. And how many volts does the battery eliminator provide? Thanks again Roman
It's already in the description. The last link. It didn't specificly say dummy battery, which I have fixed now.
This power bank seems discontinued. Do you have an idea for a similar product?
The link to the Anker website is broken, but it's not discontinued. You can also follow underneath the power bank to the official list of supported power banks. That's always the best source. Panasonic do list a few different ones there. The important key factor is, that the power bank needs to support the 9V 3A profile on USB-C PD.
Bear with me - one more question. To only use a dummy battery to power the GH6 what is the required voltage and amps to make it work. Thanks Roman
The dummy battery I listed will operate on a 18W PD port, which is ok for a GH4, GH5 or GH5-II. For the GH6, you will need at least a 30W PD port. The same requirement, as if you powered it through the USB-C port. 9V 3A.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual So, if I get the dummy battery in description, can I use my 18w powerbank in my GH5 MK2 over usb? I mean, using both, dummy battery and powerbank to operate the camera.
Thank you for the video! Brother, could you help me, please? So, to use the GH6 charging it via USB I need 9v3A, right? I have a doubt about the dummy battery... how much volts and ampere do I need to charge it via dummy battery? I saw you put the USB-C at the same port, but, since that powerbank is a PD version, it may deliver 5V3A or 9V3A, right? So, Do I use the same 9V3A for the dummy battery or is it only 5V3A? Huge Thanks for your help!! Peace!
If you get a USB-C PD dummy, then the dummy tells the battery bank, what it is supposed to deliver. As long the USB-C port is rated 30W or more, you will be fine. Nothing to set by you. It is coded into the USB-C port from factory.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual thank you for your answer. I'm afraid that information will not help me at my level of knowledge on the subject. Let me try to tell you at my level of ignorance: I'm searching for a PD power bank to be used via USB-C or/and via dummy battery. The PD power banks I have seen offer some voltage options like 5V3A, 9V3A, 12V... Etc. They are not the same and they do not have the same specifications, those voltages and amperes change from one PD power bank to another. So, I'd like to know what are the recommended voltage and ampere to use on camera's USB-C and with the dummy battery. I didn't know the dummy battery might be PD too. Are there any voltage and ampere specifications you could share with me for the dummy battery? Is 5V2A ok? Or it must be 9V3A too? Sorry for my broken English...
@@NatanRufino The voltages are all uniform. Different ports support different voltage, but USB-C PD ports generally all support at least 5V, 9V and a few others.
You need a power bank that can output 9V on USB-C PD and 3A output or more. No less and no other voltages. Otherwise it will not work. All the other voltages listed have no interest to you.
The easiest indicator is to look at, if the port can output 9V and how many watt it is rated for. If it is rated for more than 30W, it's good. If it's only 18W, then you can not use it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Yes, I've learned that from you. Thanks a lot. My last doubt was about the voltage and ampere that would need to go to the dummy battery.
I have read all your commentaries here and I think you've said somewhere that it must be the same 9V3A the USB port needs. Right? 🖖🏻😘
@@NatanRufino Correct. I've had some reports from people, that some dummy batteries don't deliver enough power. The camera then just behaves like you stuck a BLF-19 into it and doesn't give you access to all modes. The ones, I've linked give access to everything.
I bought this same dummy battery for my GH6, with the Anker PowerCore III Elite 19200 60W Power Bank Bundle with 65W PD, and the dummy battery doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Disconnect the connector between dummy and USB-C connector. Plug the cable into the power bank first and the dummy into the camera. Then connect that barrel plug last.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I tried that and still get nothing. This is the second of this same dummy battery that I've tried. I'll just stick with a regular battery and this power bank. Thanks for the quick reply!
Ehi man great video I’ve been searching for months these informations! How long can You record with the powerbank?
I have not ran out yet on a session, but I haven't measured it, to be honest. I'm likely to run out of space first.
Ehi man thank you for the fast reply! So I do have an npf 970 baxxtar (7.2 v) and I’m looking for a battery plate that can work for the gh5 mark 2 during recording. Do u have any recommendations? ( I saw the smallrIg plate but I’m not sure about that)
@@franzpi94 I sometimes use a NP-F to V-mount adapter, like the Protastic one ( amzn.to/3NEUPSe ), but that would require you to have a V-mount plate also.
Andycine have a NP-F adapter, that has D-tap out and USB PD out. I have one ordered, but it has not arrived yet, so I have not tested it yet. The USB-C PD out may be enough for the GH5 II, it's not enough for the GH6. ( amzn.to/3MRhcnK )
Man thank you again! I'll follow you on TH-cam! Thanks for the quick response and I think I'm gonna try the Andycine plate!
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Ehi man it's me again! So I did bought the Andycine plate but it doesn't work during recording (there is still the message that ask to turn off the camera). So I'm gonna try another solution or maybe the v mount plate that you are using!
Can you charge the GH6 with the powerbank when it's off?
If yes, can it be done with a powerbank with less than 9v/3A output?
Yes, you can. The charger that comes with the GH6 actually only is 1.5A, if I recall right. Any odd USB charger will charge the battery, while the camera is off. Lower amps or voltage just means, it takes longer.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thank you very much
your camera quiver is sick
So 9v/3a is only important to charge whilst using the camera. But to deliver power when the battery is fully charged, you can use less (volt/amp) from my testing. Is it the same for you?
It depends a bit. You can supply less, but it will drain the internal battery then. Also, if you supply less than 2A, it will ask you to turn the camera off to charge it. So it is always wise to supply it with the correct power.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Hmm so far the internal battery hasn't drained but the power bank has. My issue is that my powerbank stays on even when camera is off (cannot switch off power bank manually), but when using the lower amp version (USB A), it switches off when battery is full. I will continue testing and see how it holds up. Thanks for the video.
@@kudobeats A lot of powerbanks turn themselves on, when the connected device negotiates USB-C PD. Also, even when you turn your camera off, it'll still request power to charge the battery. Your battery bank then not turning off, when the internal battery of the camera is full is something, Panasonic potentially can fix in firmware. You might want to send support a mail about that.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Yeah it's strange, because even when I take the battery out of the camera, it is still "requesting" power from the power bank. But the USB A method is working fine, the battery needs to be charged beforehand but it works just fine. Panasonic don't even want to fix Cinelike D2, I doubt they will fix anything else for the Mark II lol. Thanks for the help!
Hello, how do you manage to have all the recording profiles on your GH6 because when I put my DMW-DCC12 dummy battery from my old GH5 in my GH6 I no longer have access to 5.7k or C4k 100MBPS while on your video I see that you have access to it. Thank you.
That's very much down to, what kind of a dummy, you are using. The one I've linked in the description is a USB-C PD based battery dummy and seems to deliver enough current for the GH6 to think, that it has a DMW-BLK22 battery installed.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Ok thanks. I understand.
@@Nessaiepasfaisle I have now added links to another dummy in the description, that works of USB-A QC3 and also delivers sufficient power. I meant to test this before, but had not got around to it yet.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thank you for the link. It turns out that I tried with my 8 volt V-Mount Tilta plate and my FX Lion BP-160 battery + the GH5 dummy battery and I still don't have access to all the video codecs. I must have missed something somewhere.
@@Nessaiepasfaisle 8V is not enough. The dummy's that I use output somewhere between 8.4-8.8V minimum. Nearer to 9V anyhow. And that's probably the difference there.
But it really also depends on how the dummy is coded. If it's an older dummy, it may have been coded as a BLF-19 battery, which is what was used in the GH4 and GH5 and that's why you don't get the extra resolutions. The voltage is not the only contributing factor here.
Hi. Thanks for this video. It was quite instructive. However, I'm having issues when powering my GH5 II with my Anker power bank (Power Core III Sense 20k). Each time I try to power the camera with the USB-C port (and also trying to charge the battery at the same time) it only gives me the USB warning. I don't know if I did something wrong but I was hoping if you could help me with that, please ?
Thanks in advance and keep up with the good work.
Your battery bank only has a 18W USB-C PD port, meaning it can only supply 9V 2A. So you can either power the camera or charge the battery. That's why you get that screen.
You need a battery bank with 9V 3A profile to both power and charge the camera, so minimum 27W.
That is amazing. Will the GH6 (blk22) battery work on the GH5s (blf19e) camera?
Yes, it does work with the GH5, G9 and GH5S.
Hi. Thank you for a very informative video. Just want to check that the F1TP DMW-DCC12 USB-C Power Adapter DC Coupler Charger Set (Dummy Battery) will work with the GH6 ?, and the voltage is correct for the GH6 from the DC to DC convertor in the cable.
Just noticed further in the comments that you have tested it to work. I have the same powerbank from Anker and that works fine with my Sony A7-IV. Many thanks.
Yes, it works for me with that power bank. All modes available.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks for confirmation.
Very interesting video. Clear explanations.
Can you give the links to buy your Anker battery which is suitable to run the GH6 without its battery with the F1TP DMW-DCC12 USB-C Power Adapter DC Coupler Charger Set?
I have now added links in the video description to the 2 Anker Powerbanks, that I know work and deliver sufficient current. As it really varies from country to country, where and how you can obtain these, I'm not supplying direct links to sellers. Shipping is always tricky with Lithium batteries.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks for the answer and the new links
Hi! Thanks a lot for the video, really needed this information! One cuestion, can you use the FOTGA dummy battery to charge the camera with the wall adaptor from the Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD 45W? I'm sceptical about the amperage and if the dummy battery has an amp converter. Thank you!
It does work with that battery bank. It also works with the wall charger from the Anker power bank, yes. The Anker battery and wall charger do not have the 12V profile, so what USB PD does, it drops down to 9V then. That is still more, than what the dummy needs to drive the camera. And yes, the dummy regulates the voltage for the camera.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks a lot for the fast response!
Thanks for the video. What do you call and where do you get the usb c cable to work with the dummy battery plug. Thanks Roman
That's all part of the dummy battery kit. The way most USB-C dummy battery kits work, is that you separate the cable from the dummy, connect the cable to the battery, place the dummy in the camera and only then connect them. It has something to do with how PD (power delivery) communicates with the power bank.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I do have a dummy battery, but it has a short cable with a connecter and then would connect to a power source, usually a plug in power source. I am looking for a cable that would be able to plug into the dummy battery cable and have a usb-c at the other end. Thanks again
@@Roman3718 The issue is, that different dummy batteries are build up differently. You need to match up your dummy battery with the power source, that it came with. Otherwise you risk of damaging your camera.
This dummy battery kit, that I've linked in the description, is fairly inexpensive and is a complete matching kit to power a Panasonic GH series camera from USB-C.
Similar to viewer Knutsen Lars Öivind, I purchased an Anker Power Core 3 elite (26K / 87W), figuring there was plenty of power there to run the GH6. The camera recognized the device, asked to select PC Tether, and once I did, it went into "please wait..." mode and has been there ever since. (I've let it run for 15 minutes, but nothing) Even after unplugging and shutting down and trying again, that's the only screen I see (while using the device). It doesn't even ask to PC tether anymore, goes straight to "please wait". I'm using the usb 3 cable that came with the device. Any suggestions? Please and thank you.
Are you plugged into the USB-C PD port on the battery bank ? The USB-A ports of your power bank will not provide enough power.
I am just looking for a dummy battery with an adapter to get power from a socket in the wall. Unfortunately my GH5 one is 2A and for the GH6 it's 3A right? What do I do? Thanks!
The dummies, I've listed fit the GH4, GH5, GH5-II and GH6. USB-A one even comes with wall-plug.
It doesn't matter if the camera requires less. It's only a problem if the requires more ampere.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thanks! I’m sorry I probably explained myself wrong. I bought the GH6 and I am looking for a way to get power from the socket in te wall. That last link in your description is 5V 3A but that’s not enough for the GH6 right? I use my GH6 in my studio space and I don’t want powerbanks etc, just a cable from the camera to the wall. Thanks!
@@ThijsGoedegebuure
It doesn't seem to need quite as much power, when powered through the dummy.
Both the dummies work with the GH6 and with all modes available. Even when using that wall plug.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Okay! Thank you! I will order it. 💪🏼
I bought the DMW-BLF19 Dummy battery you linked in your description, and it does not unlock all resolutions in my GH6, into a v-mount battery via USB. Does the GH6 need to use the 8V or D-tap in order to run off of a v-mount battery?
I assume, it is the USB variant you are talking about with the power brick. What ampere is the USB port in the V-mount rated at ? And is it a QC3 port ? There is a difference with these ports. A QC3 port can provide 9V. Have you tried it with the power brick that came with it and checked, if it unlocks all the modes then?
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I have a smallrig 3204 (v mount plate). It has a 5v/2amp USB, 8v DC, 12v DC, and 14.8v d-tap. The v mount battery is an swx neo 9, with a 5v usb and smart d-tap with 12vdc. I can see the USB isn't powerful enough from either unit. Would I need a d-tap dummy battery? I've only found one that says it can power a GH6 from Kondor Blue. But the spiral chord doesn't fit through the porthole of the dummy battery door on the GH6. It seems there are no viable v-mount dummy battery options available. 😭
@Bret Snyder I have the SmallRig 3497 and the Switronix Pro-X V-mounts myself. The dummy needs 9.5-9.9V to power the GH6 fully. The 8V port on the SmallRig does deliver enough current to power a GH5, but it won't allow for the GH6.
I have two P-tap/D-tap solutions in the post arriving next week, that I will be testing with the GH6. If those are successful, there will be a V-mount follow up video.
In theory, it would also be possible to rig something using a buck-converter and the 12V port of the V-mount, but if you're not electronically inclined, i'd advise against it.
Anton Bauer make a Canon 9V P-tap cable for the Canon DR-E6C dummy and the Canon R5C, that outputs the correct voltage, but it doesn't have the correct connector to fit into the Panasonic dummy. That could be adapted and provide a solution, if all else fails.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I just ordered the D-tap to GH6 dummy battery from Kondor Blue: KB_DT_LS5GH5. It SHOULD work. I don't like the coiled wire as it won't fit through the porthole of the dummy battery door, but I can't see any other options atm. Looking forward to what you find out.
Thanks a lot. Now we have SSD-option for the GH6. Could you tell us what kind of dummy and battery option might work for that case? Do I need 9V3A as well for powering? Just in case you might know already, thanks again in advance
If you look at the bottom of the description of the video, I've listed 3 different dummies (one USB-C, one USB QC3.0 and one D-tap) that work for me and give me all modes in the GH6.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual One question again. What kind of Watt-amount do I need for the PD Powerbank to power the GH6 at least? Thanks again
@Marcel Steuermann check for the 9V 3A profile (9V 2A is not enough). So 27W or more. All 45W rated PD powebanks usually have the 9V 3A profile.
GH5s can use with Powerbank delivery? and can poen with use powerbank on ?
No. The GH5 and GH5s can not. The GH5-II and GH6 were the first to get this feature.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thank you and i will change to GH5II and GH6 better ^ ^
Thank you, I connected the anker powerbank (recommended) to the dummy battery (recommended) and it doesn't work, the device turns on fine, but it turns off when I activate the boosted dynamics or when I activate the "SSD" function is this normal?
It should most certainly not turn off. However, I made the video before USB-C SSD recording was available, so didn't get to test that then. I did receive another USB-C dummy this week that even has the extra connections at the top and have just finished testing that. It works in all modes and with USB-C SSD reliably. The description of the video has been updated and the link to that dummy added. It can unfortunately only be got on Amazon.com, but at least they handle customs etc.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual could you give me the direct link please?
@@manix371 I already added it to the description of the video. It's the Fotga Dummy. Here is the link on Amazon: amzn.to/3ZsKyzj
Is there any problem if I power my GH6 (with a dummy) and monitor from the same NP-F 550 battery? I've seen people discussing it could fry the hdmi port, is it true?
Just make sure, that the HDMI always is the last cable to plug in.
The reason, that people fry their HDMI ports when using the same battery, is that the camera or the monitor tries to use the HDMI as ground plane (draw power across it). Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Cameras are especially prone to it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Nice! Thanks for your help!
Hi Emerald boss, I have a question... I have GH6 markII and my AIM is to charge this camera VIA USB-C port in camera. Is that possible? Last time I did use the origan charger - but than camera shuts down after about 90min. I found here in text - that the original charger is not having enaugh strenght - just only about 1,5A - so if you would buy some stronger USB-C charger, you think that´s gonna work out? :) Thanks for your time!
GH6 ? or GH5-II ? Either, this applies to both. You need a USB-C PD charger, that can output 9V 3A. That'll work, yes. Most USB-C chargers rated 45W or more have this profile.
YES. Sorry, GH5 mark II...yes, now I have in cart one which has 100W ... so that should do :) Thanks a milion!@@EmeraldAudiovisual
Hi buddy, I have a 20,000 mah Anker power bank, can I connect it to my gh5 camera without problems? it's by usb-c right?
GH5 ? Or GH5-II? Also, does it have the 9V 3A profile ? Because it would need that.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I have the gh5, can I directly connect it to my power bank? with a usb cable
@@FRAM3SDOCS No. The GH5-II (so the Mk2) was the first to feature that. The original GH5 does not have that feature.
Acogedor BLK22 dummy battery DC COUPLER for gh6 with power supply unit fot 8.4 volt 4 Amps
I haven't tested that. But the 2 battery dummies, that I have listed both provide BLK-22 coding and all frame rates and recording modes are available.
Hey what external powerbank you prefere for this camera ?
Personally, I've gone with the Anker PowerCore+ 26800 PD 45W. Be aware, that there are 3 versions of the 26800 model (at the very least), so the the important bit is the "PD 45W" portion.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Ok something cheaper smaller ?
@@cyklzycia8814 The issue is, you need 9V 3A. That's 30W. Minimum. There is very little smaller, that will be able to deliver that.
Most smaller battery banks only have 18W PD ports and that is not enough.
Hey man, I’m having an issue. I’m using Anker PowerCore III Elite 26k 87w pd, but everytime I plug in the usb c to usb c cable, the usb mode menu pops up. Any suggestions or fix to this?
Just select PC tether. Should work then.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual tried..it won’t charge
@@Zip-xc7tj Is this a GH6 or GH5-II?
@@EmeraldAudiovisual GH6
Is there a clamp to attach to a Smallrig cage?
There is indeed. SmallRig BUB2336. amzn.to/36d7bRI . I have not tested it yet, as mine is in back order, but that should work.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Looks really good. Thanks
Received my battery bank clamp today. The Anker PowerCore+ 26800 fits. So that's a go.
Do you know if the Rav power PD Pioneer 20000mAh power bank would work to charge my gh6 while recording video?
Unfortunately it won't. The USB-C PD port on that battery bank is rated 18W. You need 30W.
It will charge your battery, while the camera is turned off though.
But the battery logo, while in use, will likely not appear. I'm actually not sure, if it might supplement the internal battery, but still drain it. I have an Anker 20000 mAh pack like that. I might test and see, what the GH6 says to it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Thank you, ill look into the power banks in ur description then
Hi, I checked it. Both the GH5-II and the GH6 will go into an infinite loop looking for a storage device or something, if you plug an 18W rated power bank into them. So you really only can use them to charge your battery inside the camera, while the camera is off.
I've also updated the description with Amazon links on the 45W one for US, UK and Germany now. They can be hard enough to find due to the shipping restrictions on batteries.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual True... I'm trying to find any here in Brazil or in China, because it's easier to get stuff from China here than from USA.
Thanks you are the man!!
Disappointing that powering via USB-C doesn't work without the battery, I do a lot of streaming and I don't want to wear out the battery for no reason when I'm running off mains power.
As long as your USB power bank is powerful enough (PD 30W !!), your battery doesn't get used, so it should have no wear on your battery. But the system seems to need it.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual if you have a dummy battery, can you connect your PD powerbank to the power the camera via USB-C instead of through the dummy battery cable? I'm asking specifically for the GH5 ii as I look at options to reduce weight of my rig (which is used to film sports on an extremely tall tripod). Thanks!
@@aaronmcelhose Only the GH5-II and later have support for USB-C PD power.
The GH5 does not.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual thanks for the quick response, but perhaps I was unclear. I’m asking whether the GH5-II can be powered through USB-C port while a dummy battery is inserted (but not connected to the power bank).
@@aaronmcelhose No. That won't work. It needs an actual battery in the compartment to even start up. And yes, I did actually test that.
Thanks for your guide on how to power GH6 by an external powerbank. I just bought a anker powerbank with max 87watt 9volt and 3 amp. Its also said that it have PD Power delivery. However I cant get it to supply power to the camera when operating. When I plugg in the USB C I get a menu up at the camera screen that tell me to choose one of three options. It asks if I plugged in a PC (storage), PC (tether) or Pictbridge(PTP) . I also never see the little symbol over the battery indikator that tells if camera is supplied by the power bank. It clearly say in the manual that the powerbank have PD. Please, what is missing?
I would just choose PC tether. That should be enough. The logo may turn up after that.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual I already tried that without success! I also tried different cables. I just can't get it to work. This is the 4th powerbank I tried.
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Your putting me to sleep.