New Push Mower First Look SCAG 30 Inch
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- New Push Mower First Look SCAG 30 Inch
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Military grade = Lowest Bidder Contractor lol... former marine here so... yeah, mil spec means almost nothing
With every video, every tip, every insight into yard work and life.. you bring it; you always bring it. Thank you, Pete. God bless.
Finally a SCAG on Pete's channel! I've been mowing with a 52" TT for 12 years. Absolutely a beast. The only downside I have is the weight of the machine. If the turf is soft you have to be a little more gentle. They are built like tanks!
Pete looks good with Cat's Eye Gold!
My Protene fert just arrived from you, can't wait to see the results coming up. Nothing beats the homogenous fert blends based on my experience with the xgreen 8-1-8 prior. That grass is shining wow. Thanks for all you do.
Hey Pete!
Hope all is well and your Memorial Day weekend was a great one.
Thank you for your business and thank you for taking the time to offer your feedback and suggestions on the SFC30. The video has gone around in house here and reviewed during our product development meetings. We appreciate this!
Stay well!
So is there a GCI Special Edition in the future ?
Where do you buy the lawn mower
@@ronthompson2366 hello
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
Wow an actual video that actually has a yard thick enough to mow
"This was on my radar..." Me too! I'm glad you're doing this review.
I trust your feedback because I know you paid for it and are going to tell the God's honest truth!
1st time watching one of your vids and you did a very good job on the review and I have to compliment you on your lawn ! Perfect green grass !
Thank you for this real honest review. Telling it how it is.. people get upset at me when tell it... I don't like the taps on the side.. Toro has welded bars in the same place they get caught on side walks.. when cutting Low . Every thing about this new scag is cool. I would have to try one in person... good job video review..
now you're talking my language, absolutely love my scag 48' hydro walkbehind
Is it scag’lish?
I’m a homeowner with a scag 61” zero turn. Been a few years with no issues. Been great but I’m not a commercial guy beating on it 8 hours a day. Mows great and use it to to haul a small dump trailer around the property. Also have a hitch on it for dragging a mat and doing other things yard projects.
Happy Memorial Day weekend Pete. After taking time to reflect on why we have this coming holiday, I was so excited to see the demo. Maintenance plays a big part in my decision when buying something with an engine. I use a fluid extractor to change the oil in all of my engines. No mess, no drain pan. Put the tube down the oil fill hole and suck out the old. Game changer in maintenance. Good luck with the new mower. It seems as if you were trying to talk yourself into keeping it. If you don’t feel it don’t keep it. Enjoy the hibachi tonight.
Oh my heavens! Your grass is so beautiful! Woo! Envious. 😊
Doing an awesome job and teaching others how to keep a beautiful lawn. Phil. 4:13
Good morning Pete! Great review bud. I appreciate the honesty.👊
Just bought a 22 model 3 weeks ago and really like it. Good power and good cut. I discharge and don't bag. Debating a big league lawn stripe kit.
Pete thanks for the review... I think it needs caster's on the front and as other's have said...it 'wheelies' to easily.
Call it "professional experience and verification" 😁
Love you Pete. One of these dnag days I'm gonna get an arsenal to be successful like you.
The issue with the difficulty putting the bagger on is when your bending over 20 times a day, it gets old quick. Ive had my sfc 30 for a few weeks now and that’s my biggest complaint. Great video as always Pete!
Thank you for the review. Very honest and humble.
The caster wheels on the new model help balance the mower much better. The added steel while extending the length definitely helped.
@GCI TURF SERVICES Thank you for your honest review. Look forward to your next review on this piece of equipment. Take care friend!
Perfect pete! I was just looking into getting one of these! Upgrading from my timemaster!
Idk if this is the upgrade tho
Old Timemaster owner here. That Scag looks like a Cadillac! Informative review, thank you Pete!
This doesn’t compete with a TimeMaster, but more a TurfMaster.
Nice review, Pete. Thank you for your honest opinion.
Being a Timemaster owner, I’d sure like the larger gas tank on this. I have no chance of finishing our 20,000 square feet on a single tank of gas. On the other hand now that I’m used to Personal Pace I’d have a tough time giving it up. For my money Kohler has it all over Briggs. Looks like the pulley access on this is way quicker as well.
Ty for review.
I am considering both:
Scag sfc 30",
Ferris fw15 32"
Not sure yet ( home residential, non commercial, I just want the best cut, even with wet grass )
I use a 32 inch Exmark metro for my small gated back yards. Thing is a beast
You got no business watching this video then, those little walk behinds even if they’re belt drive will destroy this mower any day of the week. These push mowers are too heavy to be steering manually tbh
What’s up Pete?
God Bless!
Okay. I've got a lot of comments today. I feel inspirational. So Pete, there was a man named Neil Peart, who some would argue was one of the best drummers in the world. That being said, he went to a cymbal company called "Sabian," and worked directly with them to design cymbals that fit his liking. Apparently sabian was obsessed with Neil, and catered to his every need and desire. They created lines of symbols that came out with his signature on it.
That being said, sounds like you could help be the designer of some lawn mowers. Think about it. Make the necessary contacts. You have enough influence now that they would listen to you.. 👍
RiP Professor.
Neal was the best!
Cats eye gold is paint color. We run all scag equipment and have for years after switching from wright and exmark. All scag is made in Wisconsin. I can put you in contact with the rep for our area if you want. He will help and answer in concerns. Appreciate the review!
Why did you switch from Wright over to Scag?
The big league kit will go on there. I personally used the TimeMaster kit. It has to be mounted extremely rearward due to the deck adjustment sliding back and forth. I ended up just behind the bagger tab, 7.0 inches up from the little ear on the bottom of the deck, and 3.75” back off of the center of the chrome handlebar bolt. This was the best that I found to make full use of the higher deck heights and still keep a fairly good angle at the higher cutting heights.
Disclaimer: the bag becomes hard to deal with, and the roller makes contact with the bag when it’s full. This gives potential to eventually rub holes in the bag for premature wear of the fabric.
The bagging system is a distasteful of a design and I will probably take the bag and throw it in the shed forever because it’s too hard to deal with.
Hey Pete. It looks nice and heavy duty. Yes there’s things they have to change to a bigger Bagger size , remove or update that piece that drags and rips turf , let’s get a 1” cut. What if any engine options ? Kawasaki ? How about mowing options mulching blades ? Wonder how trans will hold up. Let’s see they SCAG does with customers concerns for updates. Nice video
the parking brake should be mounted with a spacer small end towards handle My dealer put on backwards I fixed and the parking brake works it only locks one wheel though!
Your turf is so amazing wow that blue is beautiful
I use my friends xmark something zero turn mower it's not new but still cuts good sure needs springs in his seat though
I have this mower and I've found that anything under 2" is not happening because of that tab you're talking about on the deck. I mow only bermuda yards ands some of my customers don't have perfectly level yards. I can take my Toro Turfmaster and on the same yards mow at 1.5" which is the lowest the Scag and the Toro can both mow. Any little uneven spot I hit the mower drags and tears the turf. I'm selling my mower for this reason. Anyone mowing higher than 2" I don' t think it will be an issue and you'll get a great mower. Also, just be careful when changing the deck height if you've been mowing for a while. That pin gets hot because it's close to the motor. I've had mine get warm enough that it takes gloves on to change the cutting height.
I don't think you're parking break is set up just right. On my mower once you put that break on you can't push it one inch.
JD Martin or Pete, does that tab drag at all if you put the Scag on it's lowest height and roll it on the sidewalk or street?
I have this mower as well cuts phenomenally but I will be selling because on any uneven ground this thing drags in tears up the yards. I literally cannot mow at 2.5 inches unless the ground is completely even, It will even scrape the concrete when pushing it back to the trailer at 2.5 inches.
Looks like a great mower....I probably would buy one, only because its hard to find a zero turn thats a 36inch! but I like the SCAGE push mower!
Always keep what works. That’s my motto
Good looking mower! Great video!👍
Nice mower. Thanks for showing
We got one in our showroom but no one's been interested in it yet. Seems the Toro personal pace is the go-to around here
These are great if you’re mowing weekly i have turfmaster its good on short grass anything long it struggles. Im not sure i would buy again thr scag ones here in australia are over 5k bit pricey i think
Fixin to buy one Pete with the swivel front wheels. Nice review.
I like your video anyways. You seem like a really cool guy. Wish I was on your mowing crew. I mow alone and do a lot of yards per month.
Good afternoon Pete when you were ceramic Cudi I thought wow should have gone to the dealer before they put it together you could have gotten all the nooks and crannies but anyways what I had my landscape business I asked about bad capacity they said on mowers like this the reason they limit the bag capacities because the way the weight hangs off the back it will lift the blade up in effect the true cut of the mower he referred to it as the Seesaw effect keep up the great work sir love new toys that orange paint reminds me of the old Bobcats I do wish I had my old one you could drop that thing off of building it when it break that frame went off my trailer on I-4 at 70 spun around on the rubber wheels and went off in the grass
Great review!! I tested this mower the other day at my dealer. The reason I didn’t buy was the ergonomics of the handles. My wrists were over flexed the whole time making it so uncomfortable.
Great video love the new mower
Beautiful lawn
This mower is built in a way where it seems very reliable, but I returned mine the next day. I was mulching only ~1.5 inches of thick, dry St Augustine and I was getting random blades on every pass. Even if I took it at half speed (still full throttle of course) the issue persisted. Walk around with this mower before you buy it IN GRASS. If the turf is wet at all these small hard wheels dig in and it's back heaviness digs in a rut. I use a 30" Timemaster and it's .8 mph faster and like 100 lbs less and shockingly cuts way better. Considering briggs decrease in reliability I would rather buy it twice than this big bastard once. It may be right for you though.
Pete could you please tell me what the 3 kbgs are and which plots they are on they are looking amazing and also it would be really interesting to see a pass or two through the kbg maintained at a 3 inch height of cut until the fall to see how well it survives through the summer compared to the lower cut kbg. Thank you for all that you do.
Great review Pete!
SCAG still the best I was the first person to ever own the old Scag 3 wheel tractor when it came out back in the day
Good honest review
I own an exmark 30 commercial unit I love it
Hey mr. Pete so it just hit me that I've never seen a Toro on your channel that i recall.. which made me think... you do lawn care in the south and have a wonderful Lawn Care Channel that's A Cut Above the Rest in terms of doing everything like a true professional...
Now I prefer Toro over Exmark and I consider Timemaster the best push mower in the game.. but my heart lies with the newer Walker T25i and t27i and am I'm not writing this because I'm a fanboy of Toro by any means..
Toro, being the biggest name in the game I just thought it was wild we rarely see Toros on this channel ...
Toro aerator, timemaster, any of the Toro walk-behind hydros, Zero Turns models etcetera and your reel mower choice wasn't Toro either...(alett is excellent)
I may have seen a Toro walk-behind Hydro i cannot recall but you don't purposely avoid Toro eh?
Meaning did something happen in your past to make you stray from Toro or you just find other brands more preferable?
Edit Note: What you got is clearly leaving excellent results that don't need to be changed, and i darn sure am not pushing toro anything on anyone..not @ all, they're just so big it's tough to not have some Toro machines
This has the same mortar as toro turf master but the scag seems way better on maintenance I mean the amount of space you get looks nice no tight spots
The back rails on the deck are to keep the suction/air flow right so the grass goes in bag, doesn't blow out, also helps with striping. For a landscaper and this particular about mowers, this should have been a no brainer why its built like that! Who is really gonna cut a 1.5in? Not many people, and if they are the grass probably isn't that thick and tall if they cutting that low
I liked it. Got a demo unit from my dealer but I'm not a buyer because it cant replace my 32in scag sw Walk behind and i live Scag that all i own. Now if scag makes it in 21" or 22" then Im a buyer.
Have you heard about the ferris fw15 , very similar but better built in my opinion
Thanks pete, too bad on the price tag, enjoy dinner!
Good stuff Pete! 😎👍🏼👍🏼
That thing is a Beast Pete.
Which go pro did you decide to use? 8 or 9? The color is looking on point.
9
Could you please make a side by side comparison video with this and the Ferris model that competes with it? Thanks for the video Pete!
My Turfmaster Has the same it’s a strength skid plate
Righteous review.
Spartan makes the best looking mowers out there. To bad they have so many issues, or at least mine does!!! I learned a valuable lesson about buying a mower from a company that had only been on the market for a couple years at the time. Let them work the kinks out the first 4-5 years before trusting a new brand/product. Their new mowers are much better built than they were 4 years ago though!!
Thumbnail looked 🔥🔥🔥
That's wild, $2,300 only 2 years ago. Now it's $3,000. Cub Cadet did the same thing with their SC900, was $400 3 years ago now $629. They're all doing it.
They will drop when nobody is buying them. Same as new car prices right now.
Glad they gave this mower a decent review
They didn’t. I bought it myself.
Internet died through editing sorry
@@v8soarer1991 i see now LOL....i read it wrong....
Did you ceramic coat under the deck? Maybe a dumb question but I believe clean out would be extremely easy
Nice honest video brotha
Great video! Thanks!
I see Ford dually wheels at minute 4:35.....but I don't remember a video about it. From one Die Hard Ford guy to another, lets see this truck!
This will be my first commercial mower
Looks like standard style spindles, so keep the setting @2" and use spacers to drop the blades.
You should not have to do this quick fix for $2,350
You should check out the new Spartan mowers they definitely fit your color preferences and I can personally say they are the best looking mowers out there
Hey. Does the handle fold are lay all the way down flat?
I mow commercial in your local area. I'm a one man show that needed one "push mower" to do everything I run into. That Scag has a 224 CC motor. My Ferris FW 15 has a 390cc motor. The only time it bogs is if you hit metal with it. Handyguy2016 TH-cam Channel has covered every aspect of the machine for your convenience. When somebody makes something better I'll buy that.
I heard them ferris 30 are really nice I have an exmark commercial 30s and it's a bit underpowered but I love it
@@mattsfirewoodvideos738 the reverse feature alone makes it worth buying. I cannot stress enough how much of a back saver and energy saver it is. i have developed muscle memory of pulling my fingers back and try the same movement on my other mowers without reverse, it pains me not having that feature lol
Love the idea of ceramic coating, anyone have and suggestions?
220lb for a manual steer mower is headed in the wrong direction. The Timemasters we use at 140lb are heavy enough. 130-135 lb that actually pulls itself would be the limit on all day use for a manual steer mower IMHO
At least the SCAG will last as opposed to the time masters that aren’t built quite well enough to handle commercial usage. SCAG has a solid reputation for being built to stand the test of time. Cut quality is also superior to any other mower I’ve ever used. Personally, I’m looking forward to buying one of these 30s. Perfect for tight lawns and more versatile than the 32” stander (on hills, in other words)
@@MrBones2020 I have 2 rthat are on season 7. They really are fine. Typical wear items like drive belt and blade cable. less than $50 / year in parts.
We use them as trim mowers and on smaller lots, 158 / week. Theyre really fine
Yeah you’re right, I sold my fw15 after using it for like an hour. They’re way too heavy, I’d really suggest even a belt drive walk behind 32” than these push mowers and they’re only a couple bucks more
The term would be "Test and Evaluation " ...
Sounds like GCI, might want to get with a mower company. Write up a really good Test and Evaluation. Showing your findings, pros and cons.. suggest / come up with a GCI TURF EDITION mower. .. who knows. Good companies look for such opportunities.
What do you think about Spartan?? They’re grey! Sharp looking. I hear they’re a great economical version of the big heavy duty commercial brands but I haven’t really looked at them myself.
Thank for the video.
No reverse for a "commercial grade" push mower? Don't know if you ever saw a Sarlo BigMo 30" but it was pretty cool for a single 30" blade.... talk about getting some lift! Only problem with it was the front swivel casters wouldn't hold a side slope without wanting to nose dive.
This mower is definitely designed for healthy soil… ITS HEAVY.
Wish manufacturer would find a way to keep the bolts away from the chute like that.
It inevitably starts to catch grass and clump and make s mess right there. Keep it smooth in the discharge area people!
I’d never be able to push another push mower after having mowed with your Allett Uplift 86.... nope no way 😂
Hey, Pete, loved watching your video on the Scag 30 SFC. Definitely love your attitude. Since you have had the Scag for almost a year, what is your opinion of it now? Thumbs up or thumbs down?
I was considering a 30 push and spoke to my local Scagg dealer and he basically said they're too new and they're having a lot of conversations with Scagg trying to improve problems that customers are having. He said that it's pretty common for the unit to come back for service the very first week it's out. They've scaled back production because of low quality work. They're working on solutions to mechanical problems actually on the assembly line. It's unfortunate that a new product has so many issues. Don't be the guinea pig. I'm sure that next year they'll be a lot better mower.
Not accurate on the pulling back production. That said with this mower, like any product we come out with, we are always staying plugged into the customer base with feedback (this video being one of the great options) to improve our products.
@@ScagPowerEquipment What changes are happening? Why isn't this type of review sought prior to release? An incredible turf community is on YT. It seems you'd be wise to tap into it, not only for profits but input.
@@stephenfox3236 Stephen, we tap into all input from every social channel - Scag Nation, Facebook, Instagram, TH-cam, Twitter, and now even TikTok. Our product development team monitors these channels and is also made aware of any product feedback that may arise. We are actively working on adding caster wheels onto the SFC30, as well as an accessory to the SFC30. No additional information to give at this time, but stay plugged in! Appreciate your feedback!
@@ScagPowerEquipment Thank you for that. I see the monitoring occurs after product release. It seems before release some time with demo models would allow changes prior to production/release. I want to get one of these, but with some of the feedback... I'll need to wait and see. Thanks again.
@@stephenfox3236 We certainly do that as well. Just a fun FYI about our product lifecycle when we develop new models:
Each new machine (mower, blower, whatever) will go through a concept stage where we build early prototype units for in the lab testing and in the field testing. Those concept machines will be with landscapers all throughout the US so we can get them in various different cutting conditions and grass types. We will also get them with people that use our product already and those that don't. A good example of this is from our V-Ride II launch. We had the concept machines with Scag customers who ran the original V-Ride and also with customers who've never run a Scag in their life. All that feedback and test results make it to the next stage which is the pilot build.
For pilot we build quite a few more machines, sometimes in the dozens so our sales team can start showing dealers and end users alike. Pilot is done where we have enough time prior to full production to still make some changes prior to full production.
Your feedback is what absolutely drives our brand and we start getting customer feedback on new machines extremely early in the process and it doesn't stop after the product in launched.
I’d much prefer my FW15. One lever moves the deck up and down with little effort . The hydrostatic transmission goes forward and “reverse”. The front casters allows it to turn with one hand. The 390CC motor is a beast and you can tell the blade speed is high! The cut is exceptional!
yepppp me too 😁
the reverse feature is soooooooo freaking nice. it literally saves your body on the job. way less exerted energy on turns and places where you need to back up. i wish all my push mowers had that lol, i find myself pulling back my two index fingers from muscle memory and when nothing happens im like omg this sucks so much 😭
It's hard to say these are the same kind of mower given the costs? I'm picking up the Scag 30in on Thursday for $2k with .2hrs, justifying another $1700 for the features you're saying I'd hope it comes with a lot more than "reverse" and another 150lbs?
If the fw15 never bogs down; pete said the sfc 30 did on his recently fert'd lawn area. Then I say, why not have more power.
Please show how it does with 8AM wet grass
The only problem with the fw15 every dealer in a 15 hour drive radius has been on back order for 4 months and estimated to be on back order for another 3 to 6 months so the scag with casters is probably going to be my only option
That was one hell of a review .. thank you sir!!! You know your shit , exactly the man to teach me like a boss
checkout the Ferris FW15 32" hydro. I was debating on the Scag 30 too but ended up with the FW15 for a few reasons.
3500 for the ferris. Wow. That thing looks like a beast
That's one heavy beast.
When it’s dragging are you in the 1.5” setting with the pin or did you go beyond that? Cause obviously it’s designed to cut at 1.5” at the lowest setting so if it drags , that’s on you
Great review, thanks! Question, what kind of grass is that your standing on? Looks really nice.
@@normrubio thanks! This is the grass - gciturfacademy.com/collections/gci-grass-seed/products/gci-turf-blue-heat-grass-seed
sorry I keep commenting but I was thinking about putting a striper on it but then I mowed with it stripes excellent almost as good as your allett rotary I had to go over twice but owell
Grind That Lip Off So it can Run smoother on a 1" cut . Also Should have bin made with a ( Steel or Aluminum ) mesh catch bag in the rear Then it would have bin the King Of commercial Push mowers .