Are These Art Kit Brands Secretly THE SAME Company?! Pott'd, Sculp'd, Crock'd...
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Today I am doing a deep dive into the world of Crockd Sculpd and Pott'd. Are these brands somehow the same company? Something weird is going on here... why are they almost identical? Why did they release around the same time? Is there some sort of secret going on or is it all just a coincidence...? Crock'd Sculp'd Pott'd which is better? Let me know..
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This sounds like drop shipping you get wholesale and rebrand.
exactly what it is, it’s a base product that’s mass sold for cheap then you can slap your own logo on it for resale, clothing brands do the same
It seems that they are sourcing all their materials from the same companies in probably China, none of these creators are in the manufacture business so that does make sense.
From a pottery student please don't sand clay without a respirator!! The clay dust can damage your lungs!! Also clean any clay with water rather than sweeping!
The coasters turned out super cute!
These are quite normal pottery tools for beginners. It is strange that their identical through each packaging though.
Also if you want to carve anything you can wait for the clay to dry a tad and then do that it's a fun way to add more texture!
replyingy to this so hopefully she sees
its probably a dropship private label wholesale fulfilment that offer these pre-packaged craft with all your branding. im currently using vaiglamour
I came in to say private label. 100% I worked for a manufacturer of construction products and we did do private labeling. 😉😁
I wouldnt say these are drop shipped but they just all use the same manufacturer. As someone who has done research on making kits. its literally all available on aliexpress/alibaba/other manufacturer and they even do the branding stuff for you. Then you just package everything.
Next time you are painting with very transparent acrylic paints, all you have to do is add some cornflour to it. Ta-daa, opaque paint!! Fun video btw 🙂
I call bs on crockd founders not being able to find smaller quanty supplies. I'm australian, living in Aus. You can easily find craft supplies from a variety of places from spotlight, indie art/craft stores, lincraft, big w, kmart etc. A lot have both brick and morter and online stores.
I found that comment so odd too! I was talking at my phone like wtf are they talking about? Like officeworks and eckersleys are more options! I don’t for one second believe they couldn’t get their hands on some clay.
I found that weird too, I wondered if it's a country thing but probably not. I'm a cosplayer, so I actually usually have the exact opposite problem with clays and crafting supplies, the packages are usually too small for what I need.
I can't help but wonder if it's a case of white labeling. The different “creators” of the boxes are actually just the companies who labeled them individually, and perhaps they just picked different clay from a list of clay the manufacturers can include.
Definitely white labeled from the same manufacturer and had the same design team too.
Remarkably, they don't actually seem to belong to the same people. The UK government company records confirm the owners are different people (I won't DOX their names here).
Also Crockd was actually sued by Sculpd for trademark infringement and Sculpd won (WIPO Case D2021-0322)
This is just like the recall for waffles right now. 100 waffle "brands" but all from the same company/supplier. Sold as name brands and premium brands in many different stores but they are ALL the same.
Please be carefull with sanding clay, the powedered clay should not be inhaled, so if you do this more often, use a respirator mask.
I always love your projects, ❤❤❤!
You made a really cute coaster set!! 🥰 Some lettuce and tomatoes, and you could have a set of four! 🤗
I should've scrolled further down the comments, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking too! 😅
Put a skewer through the centre so they stack up nicely on the table so it doesn’t fall over or becomes a balancing game for display and to use them as coasters!
It’s crazy how similar they are! I would really like to see the other one but not enough to make you buy 5 kits. Lol. OMG I LOVE your burger coasters! Such a cool and fun idea!!!! 💜💜💜
add grill marks to the burger and it won’t be mistaken for poo! Lol
"it's so eco friendly, no single use plastic in sight!" they do realise right that a resealable tab on a plastic bag doesn't actually make it not-single use, right? what the hell else are people supposed to do with that bag once the clay inside has been used up?
Whenever we get a resealable bag with any purchase, my mom likes to use them for storing earrings or other small trinkets or clips and hairbands.
They've just been dup'd, that's all.
As someone who have done pottery and clay classes. The tools are mostly normally the same no matter where you get it especually when doing hand building. You can get better quality sculping tools yes but these are also what you see being student grade from any art store as they're extreamly simple to just order in bulk for stores and they're decent enough to be used. That's why the tools probably look all the same for all three. The sponge is also extreamly normal as well for both hand building *and* wheel throwing as it's a way to control moister as you're working.
I have noticed one clay does have a sligtly reddish hue so I wonder if it's an Adobe clay (as in the red clay, not the computer program) but it could be another type of red clay that just happen to look similar. Adobe Clay though is stiffer and harder to kneed in some cases and the softer clay looks to be slightly more moist as well, so that may be why they say you can use it in a kiln because it won't "melt" in said kiln (from my experienced apparently there are some clays that are high or low firing where if you put a low fire clay in a high fire kiln.... um... it melts even when you're glazing the pieces? I was so scared one class when I learned this was a thing as he showed what would happen when a ceramic melts and I was hoping I wouldn't murder anyone else's pieces as I wanted to glaze a bunch of high school cermaics. Turns out High School used high firing clay where it could take being glazed at higher tempatures.). But these are just going by slight visual differences and also I'm not focused in clay as an artist so I'm sure better clay focused people can clear up the differences far better with what they know of the different clays.
Is there an update on your disney castle? Looking forward to seeing the end result!
previously on her 2nd channel she said the video didn't do too well so she didn't feel excited about making a part 2 at that moment
@@sunnymeowcatthat really sucks, I really enjoyed it and was looking forward to the second one :( I’m not even a Disney fan I just thought it was really satisfying and beautiful!
@@sunnymeowcat thanks for the info! This is exactly why I'm not enthusiastic about multiple parts videos and usually don't watch anything that expressly says it's a part one -- bigger creators rarely finish those videos, they're too focused on analytics. 😔
@@thinkerdreamersketcherspysometimes i wish creators had the liberty to make something that interests them and they enjoy making it even if they only cater to a select group of ppl. 🥺🥺 But given the current YT competition i guess it is difficult if not impossible 😞
@SassySceptile yeah, that's the problem of going professional at what you love. And why I watch little of 'big' art youtubers -- they're youtubers first, artists second (or third or fourth).
Those are common clay tools. Sponge too. Most students starting a pottery class, start with those tools.
but tools can come in diferent designs. those are literally the same with different branding.
@@gisela_oliveira Yes. And if you go into any craft/pottery store, they have the same tools, different packaging. I have worked with Clay for a couple of decades. There are the basics and then there are specialty tools. The specialty tools are the interesting ones and that's where there are differences.
Yup, these are identical to some of the tools I used in my pottery classes decades ago, and to what you see as the first set suggested in any craft store or online clay kit.
It's not surprising that they seem really similar. It can be smart to be similar to the competition, you want to give people what they expect and with social media you want to do what works and not take risks. I'm not surprised the box and tools are the same, there are only so many ways to make a folding box and the tools for sculpting is pretty standardized.
Sounds like food blogs. Not much you can do to change the recipe, so they give us a story about how their meemaw used to make this for them when they were little.
So true 😂 nothing worse than trying to find the recipe and having to scroll past their entire life story first hahah
🤣😂
i read once that the real reason they do that is because they can't copyright the recipe, but they CAN copyright the story stuff. idk how true it is, of course, but it's an interesting hypothesis
@gwenhyfarbeati You absolutely can copywrite a recipe, but 3 small changes is enough to qualify it as a new recipe. (So swap nutmeg for allspice, double the cinnamon, and swap coconut oil for butter, etc).
Everything on Google contradicts that. It says a recipe can only be protected as a trade secret, so reese's recipe for their peanut butter would fall under that as well as other company recipes. If it is a printed recipe it can not be copyright protected. Hence the bloggers putting personal stories before the recipe. The personal story can be protected. Recipe books get around this by giving notes about technique, tips on what you should serve with the recipe.
So now that you have done them, you should take us to Michaels (or similar store) and show us the products in the store, compare them, and let us know which you prefer. :) There will always be people who prefer kits. I am not one of them. But I would be curious to see you compare with a local craft store.
I absolutely love the burger you made so cool. I think a lot of these craft boxes that came around during lockdown just pinch ideas from each other and that's how you end up with more than one company doing the same things
Thanks for reviewing these boxes. I took a pottery class earlier this year and I have wanted to do some more work but I can't afford to buy huge slabs of clay, nor do I have the space. The smaller blocks in these kits might be worth looking into getting a box and testing it out for myself.
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Advice for square or other rectangle where you want to keep the shape, the tips is to use a cardboard guide and to keep refering to it. Because everytime you move your clay it get slightly distorted and in the end a perfect square can end up all wancky. If you notice it got bigger or distorted just slighty squeeze/push it back ❤ also too much water can make the clay dry weird, croocked or craked
Really love your 2 foods creations ! Love from France
Really good idea x plus cardboard stencils for flat pieces can let you get almost identical shapes. I also like old cookie cutters as you can do a lot with a bell, bauble, rabbit…. The pound/dollar lol stores (sorry they need to change the names) and charity shops/op shops/ thrift stores are great places to find cutters.
I am going to add to your amazing advice, when making anything with air dry clay expect shrinkage, it unlike say polymer clay will not hold exactly the same shape, it’s this imperfection that I think makes it look expensive and artisan! It’s best to try and avoid using very thin pieces because they are more likely to crack on you. Like wise really dense pieces waste clay and take forever to dry, so use scrunched up tin foil with a generous thickness of clay, you can’t penny pinch the clay too much!
What you need to take in to account is these companies outsource their photography, their web building, their advertising, even down to product design! Even the manufacturers of the boxes would be the same outsourced company! Easiest way to tell if the companies are linked is to check out the company registration details!
I loved the buger coasters!
Burger needs a tomato coaster.
Congrats on the book! I would love to see a series of you coloring in the book ❤
Your sweatshirt makes me think of Paddington wanting to go to London. ❤Love this video.
Hi from London, sorry Paddington can’t come to the screen right now as his paws are covered in marmalade! Xxx it’s his bed time snack sandwich as it’s almost half past nine here! ❤
I’ve been to crock’d Neutral Bay location and it was an amazing time - they do pottery courses or one time things (booty mugs and Margie’s for example). Definitely recommend and that is at least a genuine company. I’d be curious about their kits now.
The fonts they use are also similar
Love this content! Super helpful, specifically before the holidays
I love the burger you made. I'm in Aus and have heard of the 3rd brand but never used it. It's easier going to a craft supply store and grabbing what I need there.
I do like the idea of craft boxes as gifts though. They make for a good hamper style gift if you don't know what supplies to get for a project. Or if you do, you can add to it.
17:40 ... Maybe not a coaster, but DEFINITELY a paperweight! We open our windows whenever we can so I would use that on my desk as a paperweight, for sure! ❤😊
the tools and sponge are identical to what you get in any beginners pottery tool kit online or at craft stores in the US, I think I've bought 4-5 different sets over the years and they've all been exactly the same
Looked online to see for myself (I’m in Europe) and saw for me that Figured’ Art is the cheapest and I couldn’t find Potter’d easily. 😅
Wohooo!!! New video!!!!!!!! Love it! Now I must watch..... *grabs popcorn*
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
LMAO I love how overdramatic this video was, I was really invested 😂😂❤
Love the coasters you made!!! 🙌😍❤️🙌xxx
I've made a coil pot before in pottery class in high school. I enjoyed it. If i had these kits theni probably would have done more than what was assigned. Makes me want to start experimenting with clay again.
Fun fact: in Germany, we have basically the same clay box. It‘s called Clayre (and I think I saw another one recently as a Socials ad, which confused me, because I thought they were exactly the same, but it also may just have been Pott‘d? Not sure though)
what the heck😭
Tbh this sounds simply like a air-drying/bakeable clay difference paired with target audience difference. (I wonder where Crockd comes in, but it seems like a local variation). They could very well be put together by the exact same people. There really is too many similarities for it to be a coincidence, so either they're the same owner different brand, or someone ripped someone off.
Why does this remind of the old 'party sellers' for companies but using different names/founders for different countries!
One Chinese Company: 3 different brands ordering their products from them to their Specs. Nothing Weird. it is normal.
idk if it means anything but the "about me" bios for pott'd and crockd have the exact same voice in the writing. Slightly quirkytone , multiple asides in parentheses. this is a fairly common writing style but they're so similar that its entirely possible that both were written by the same person
Literally one of the most iconic sponges 💕
Similar to the situation with these brands, I keep getting recommended "Fuppys" which looks very similar to The Woobles. I can never tell if they just use the same manufacturer etc
I think those are just knock offs. But woobles are so expensive and there isn't much about them that makes it different than any other crochet.
@@Skittl1321 You could very well be right. I only really know of Woobles from Chloe's content. It seemed like the instructional videos are meant to be the USP? If so, Fuppys do that as well which makes it an even closer dupe. Can't say I've ever attempted crochet myself to form an opinion of the kits one way or the other though
Yay!!! New reviews!! Burger looks great and yummy😊
I'd be really curious to know what type of clay the one that doesn't need to be fired is because most un-fired clay is very fragile. The one that says it can be fired to 1200°C sounds like it's a very common clay as that is the temp I usually fire my kiln at.
Yes sponges are common for pottery especially wheel pottery
Arvo is Aussie slang for afternoon
Oh my goodness, I love your burger coasters!
You could do a tomato and a bit of lettuce too!! 😅
I wouldn't count the box shape in this as that box is very common for sellers in general, but it does seem private label and just rebranded.
It seems to me that one company has made three brands as a sort of A/B-testing on what will sell best. Or they released different brands for different markets like you said.
Nice demonstration!
I’m making sculpd pottery while I watch this
I think your cheeseburger coasters are adorable!
BUY THEM ALL❤
I really enjoyed this video, I have another idea of things to do!!!
These are just your basic pottery supplies. It’s most likely not one company totally ripping off the other, or one company posing as two, or some drop shipping scam. The sponge and sculpting tools are the exact same, because they’re the exact same set EVERYONE uses. If you’re somebody just starting out, you typically use those tools.
17:51 Burger needs a tomato slice and some lettuce. Could even do a slice of onion!
The sponge is usually for cleaning off paint I think
I assumed it was for wetting the paint.
I'd say between those two Sculp'd is still the better deal simply because they give you more base coat and varnish plus a different more easily workable clay. Since you didn't like the paint from Pott'd if it ended up being the same paint, then it'd be better to get some cheap craft paint locally anyway or using any that were already lying around lol. I just assume the paints they give must be extremely cheap to be included in either box and not worth it. Like even apart from people recommending techniques and stuff to help with those paints, I expect this is the cheapest paint they can get away with including and that's usually not a pleasant experience in any kit for adults or children.
I'm kinda curious if the Sculp'd paint could've been a step up but regardless the Pott'd box is cheaper because they're trying to sell themselves on looking the same while being cheaper. Pott'd is selling itself as a better deal; a cheaper alternative that looks so similar and it's only a 5 dollar difference so it doesn't seem significant but when you consider the Sculp'd with paint is even more money that means it's GOT to be a worse quality in order to cut those costs AND make a profit. They're definitely making their sales on that alone which is kind of sad because I'd hate to think someone decided making clay things wasn't for them simply because the kit was worse. Because you wouldn't have bought the Sculp'd kit to compare the two if you weren't making a video on it and that's why they probably wouldn't try other clay.
I suspect Crock'd doesn't give paints at all because it would be a little too costly to supply everyone at a party with those extra materials. Also they expect you to make the item, then take it home to dry or leave it there to dry and pick it up later. It wouldn't be dry during the event so it would accidentally encourage people to try painting it too soon if they included any paint. That's my guess.
In all three cases I suspect the main benefit to buying any of these kits over the items individually as a beginner (who didn't want to look at recommendation lists) would be the box to store the supplies in so they hopefully don't get lost while reminding you what's in there and that they supply the useful instructions for getting started, ideas for what to make, as well as making it easier to read the info on the clay bags.
I'd definitely be curious to see a video of you and some friends who agreed to be filmed for the Crock'd kit, just because that could be fun to see if it's actually good as a party/event idea, especially if they had varying degrees of familiarity with clay, but obviously these kits are all so similar that I'd say any differences in the Crock'd would be slight. The only real point of interest would be what kind of clay they'd give you... if it'd be more like the red clay or the gray clay or something else (lol probably not but you never know.)
I'm confused... one of the company said that they could only buy clay in massive amounts? I can tell you in the UK air dry clay is VERY easy, affordable and comes in small bags... not sure why anyone would buy these kits. Tutorials easy to find online and the tools I'm positive you can get them quite easy too.
very cute. And yeah if its not just a megacorporation thing then its definitely just sourcing and duping
Don't they have a manufactory label on them? it can be the same place! but airplane boxes are very common for gift boxes, that's what I use for my advent calendars. The clay is very different if one is baked and the other air dry, and the consistency would be important depending on what you are making. The stuff included seems basic, so every box should have it.
Its probably just copycats who possibly use the same manufacturers as well. Its insane the lengths copycats will go to, to copy another company - they'll even rip off their video style. Copying doesnt only happen on Temu and Shein, it happens with smaller businesses too. I know this as a small artist and business owner. Its honestly everyone for themselves these days.
'Really nice buns by the way'. 😂
Your burger turned out so fun but idk why I'm so sad you didn't do a tomato slice and lettuce 😂
Maybe they all just repped each other off, i mean there is limited stuff u can add to a pottery box
Or like the way that there is one factory for high end and budget makeup where the product is identical, just the packaging changes. Except here, they’ve used the s1me packaging for bot( boxes too.
No pottd and sculptd copied from crockd
The boxes are the same as any other subscription box, nothing special about those ^.^
Happy birthdayyy
This is just like when I found out that petsmart and petco were competitors, and not joint companies
Fascinating
I’ve never tried pottery so it seems like it would be great for someone like me to decide if I even enjoy something like that. But it does seem a bit pricey but I’ve never really priced pottery products so don’t know! But good video thanks Chloe!
Definitely overpriced. You can get a 2lb bag of high quality air dry clay for about $8. Pair that with sculpting tools (or an equivalent) which you can find at the dollar store, some cheap paint/brushes, and a free TH-cam video on the basics of sculpting, and you're set!
You could add lettuce and a tomato level.
Looks like the clay difference is one looks like stoneware clay & the orange/ tan one could be terracotta clay. Person who works with clay is called a potter or ceramicist
They are all made by the same producer. I would not call it drop-shipping, tho. They don't buy an existing product as is and resell it with a big margin. They all have done a regular sourcing process, like nearly all wholesalers do. They had an idea, searched for a manufacturer online, designing the product within the given options of the manufacturer and ordered it. Technically, there is nothing wrong with it. And the idea of a beginners' clay crafting kit is good.
The questions tho is what they lied about on their website, is the information trustworthy (like ethical sourced materials?), and is the price reasonable?
Hullo Chloe, I do enjoy your videos ! You are a wonderful Artist and excellent creator of video content too! Being able to create videos of art that you create is no easy thing to do! I have had trouble getting paint to stay on clay that is not completely dry, could this have been your problem? Trapped moisture will not allow the paint to adhere to the surface, it must be dryer than bone dry, completely dry! I have a NerdECrafter box that came with clay, now that is a wonderful box and the only bad thing it is no longer available! Thanks for trying these boxes and I would rather buy my own paint, than just get it because it is cheaper. Excellent review and awesome video!
Sounds like one has air dry clay, and the other is actual pottery.
They’re both air dry but one had the option to use in a kiln :) it just didn’t sound like it the way I said it in the video haha
No waaayyy, I love the burgerrrrr
It is a funny coincidence, but I'm guessing they just source from the same suppliers.
I think your burger coaster set needs lettuce =)
You could have always have painted the sesame seeds on the top of the bun.
omgg I was thinking the same thing! I fought they're same company!!!!
You crack me up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For easily craft like for everyone even for children go for pottd without firing but for professional I would say sculpd because it seems they use different clay or one has more water/moisture & sculpd can use to fire in klin, pottd depending on size some dry faster some 2/3 days but I’m happy with pottd because of price & buying in bulk discount on stocking up also I don’t like to use clay that’s too soft it more likely to shrink while drying to get rid of all water in the clay also more likely to crack easily 😅 I do think all the brand is white label from same manufacturer but I don’t know if legal can copy similar designs & style😂
Yay!!!
This sounds lke 3 different chat gpt versions of the same brief to me😂
Very clearly drop shipped. Save your $$ and don't get crocked!
Wait wait wait one of the sets said it had to be fired? They are completely different types of clay if that’s the case, one is polymer clay and the other one is actual you know… dirt….
Rewatched and the one clay that talked about firing mentioned it being optional… interesting! I’m not at all familiar with air dry clay that you can fire in a kiln…. But still that should be the biggest indication that these are completely different products just a coincidence they are so similar
Yeah sorry if how I said it was confusing! It can be fired but doesn’t need to be :)
Maybe there was one company and the owner had someone start a similar brand in another company. I don't know but they all seem good.
Crock is another word in America where someone says something where you'd say this is a crock of poop.
Have you ever checked their contact us or their company information at the bottom of their websites? If it’s the same company?
Toothbrush for texture
I was looking into getting one of these boxes to make my partner a Christmas gift , i was wondering if anyone knows if you can use posca or anyother acrylic paint markers to paint your clay projects? ❤️
I mean you have opened a BUNCH of those suscription boxes and almost all of them have that same flap design so I am sure it is a manufacturer design. Same with the contents because "pottery tools" are not really diverse. I would hav expected maybe a darker wood stain or something other than the logo to different but tbe bags and the tools make sense.
As for the logos? It is very bizarre that they are similar and some graphic designer ncheckto check their contract and copyright