Great looking car. Been mega impressed with Renault styling recently. Can’t recall liking the design of a Renault for years and now like a lot of the recent releases!
That red rock road really is special. Close to monaco ofcourse. And a car with a good 60 miles of real world range in ev only but still having that engine is the combination thats needed. Too many times these hybrids dont have enough full ev running range but this does and its a game changer. Welldone Renault.
I think a lot of VW Group's latest generation of plug-in hybrids have 100km of range and also fast DC charging - it seems to be the way they are all going.
@@davidy7004 but real world. In the cold and rain with the demister on and the heated seats on cruising at 70mph on the motorway into headwind and uphill majority of the miles. Will they actually do 60 miles of ev running only.
I don’t know if I’m being a bit of a grumpy old man here but, while this is undoubtedly a very cleverly designed car and I don’t doubt pleasant to drive, I’m left wondering about how all these clever systems will be operating 10yrs down the road??… Adaptive suspension reading the road ahead for bumps, four wheel steer etc etc….. all very good if you’re buying a super car and have the money to maintain it into the future, but this is ultimately a ‘middle of the road family SUV’ which in 10yrs time will be changing hands for £5k not £50k, and the person paying 5k is not going to be able to afford to maintain/repair these systems. Sorry Renault/Alpine but the wrong direction here over complicating a day to day car…
Peter. I drove that road in June unfortunately I had heat stroke and felt very ill so did not enjoy the drive. That Renault looks interesting but I would not buy one even if I had the money
Whilst all of that technology sounds amazing, it makes me think that the package will cost a kidney when something goes wrong! I guess in today's mental pricing, £45k to £50 is almost acceptable. However, in the final I would go for a diesel or a BEV estate car.
Thank you for another excellent video. That scenery! I think Renault are on one at the minute. Never thought I'd hear myself saying that. Got the new Clio which I'm blown away by for the price. Renault are on form and whilst I'm not the biggest fan of SUVs, these look pretty decent and I'd take one over any VAG offering these days that's for sure.
Hi Sir Pete what a beautiful location to shot at for this video! The car color is very eye catching. This seems like a great car and decent looking. But I’ll never get one as that brand doesn’t sell over here. But definitely glad to see a hybrid review
"styling" ( aka, teenage designers messing about with plastic) is the regular generic , faceless stuff - there's really nothing different here. the wheels are an appalling mess. Three engines ...really? Display "design" ?? Nobody, in the automotive world has this nailed . Unfortunately, all manufacturers have outsourced their software and digital design to ensure you're 'locked; into a dash facility and design that will be stilted, aged and inconvenient within 2 years. There's a reason Microsoft and Apple and a 100 fone companies change their software all the time - and that's because , digital life-moves-on ALL THE TIME. That's a nice road though - been on it - worth driving.
BYD is a Communist China dictatorship sponsored brand. It is probably built by some political prisoners , so for sure it will be much cheaper than European brands.
Yea, perfect PHEV. That 65 miles in EV will cover most peoples journeys/commute, the 600 mile is twice any pure EV for longer, hassle free journeys. A bit expensive, but it is high spec and quite fast.
The number of people who NEED 600 miles of daily range is tiny ! Even less people for doing this without stopping for a break. You could do this in many EV’s stopping to charge for around 45mins [600 miles is well over 10 hours of driving - range is limited by bladder size and refreshment requirements. rather than the size of your fuel tank or battery]
@@SDK2006b No, the people that need 600 mile is almost everyone. It's what they're used to. I don't want to have to fill up every 150 miles, that's just ridiculous. If that was the case, why don't ICE cars have 15 litre tanks? Yes, I may stop every couple of hours on a break, but I just don't want the hassle of having to find a charger to get going or make the return journey home.
@ - “almost everyone needs 600 miles of daily range “🤔🤣 Average UK daily mileage : 24 miles 🤷🏼♂️ You need to think differently, and not use an EV the same as you do with an ICE car. With an EV you charge it whilst it’s not being used - when it’s parked up, or whilst you are sleeping. Doing it this way means it’s actually more convenient.
Badges don't mean anything anymore. "Luxury" cars have a lot of cost-cutting in them, and at this time, it really feels like an almost level playing field.
@ - higher end badges still have value. BMW/Audi/Merc still have much higher quality interiors than the Ford/Kia/Renault etc..and they also have more power & performance. VAG restricts higher power to the more premium brands. This high end ‘Alpine’ Renault has less power, than entry level Audi/Merc/BMW offerings. My BMW iX interior is massively better over the lower level brands - glass crystal controls, metal switches, ‘leather’ lined door panels and it feels more solid. The infotainment systems run faster processors, so there is less lag when navigating through the menus. There is also more sound insulation used, so the cabin is quieter. Much of this can’t be realised by simply watching a YT video - you need to sit in them, drive them and use them for more than a couple of days to appreciate the differences.
@@SDK2006bIndeed if you sit in a Rafale, one of the first things you will notice is that its infotainment interface is extremely responsive with virtually no lag.
Just like with any German cars, you keep the car while it's under warranty and sell it before it is up. Or just lease the damn thing like most people do, who wants to keep the same car for more than 5 years anyway lol
here in hungary get thes renaults with 5 years warrantee which covers almost everything expect brakes,clutch which wears out by usage. so most of the owners dont have to afraid of problems.
@@Oklm23 lol... in hungary the avarage age of cars is around 15-20 years... 1990's susuki swifts, 2000-2004 opel astra etc...bmw e46.If you buy a new car here,people think you stole money or in the past you put somebody out of the way :D
@@Zero1k97lol yeah well maybe not in Hungary then, but in Western Europe this car fully loaded leases for the same price of a much smaller/crappier X2 so it’s a no brainer!
Very funky looking car, Renault are often a bit out there with their design. £50k is a lot of money for any Renault but each to their own. The technology just keeps getting better, makes me wonder where it will all end?
It has an engine, auto gearbox and three electric motors - ouch! Surely better to have one motor front and rear, with the front motor doubling up as the generator to run off the engine. Then fit a larger battery for more ev range. On longer journeys you are mostly cruising a roads or motorways where tou dont need full power or 4 wheel drive.
@@the_lost_navigator7266 You should check out Nissan's e-Power series hybrid then. Not the most fuel efficient on the motorway, but has this EV-like feeling
Currently driving an Akarna and enjoy that despite its 'Sheeps clothing' as you described. Really like the look of Rafale, it seems the next progression but its certainly pricey.
Love the colour change of the Alpine logo and door lighting in the different modes. The market has been screaming out for a car with the range and performance it offers
At 60000+ euros (this is the cost of the presented trim) there is no need to buy a PHEV and have more maintenance costs down the road. Just buy a BMW iX2 or an Audi Q4 Quatro Etron. I would consider it for this version if the price was around 40000.
Nothing comparable. I've been in a Q4 e-tron. It is way smaller with way less equipement. To get the same level of technology, performance, space and equipment you must give at least 20000+ € for BMW, Volvo, or Mercedes (I tested them).
I’m with you Ped, glad to see a hybrid with increased EV range and clever integration- I think people forget we are in a transition phase- Solid state / low impact batteries are probably 10years away from mass adoption, the charger infrastructure is probably 5 years away so why not make use of this combination- most of my inefficient car running is in town or traffic jams so EV for 80% of journeys and hybrid for the remainder- that is still a win in my book- interesting to see what Renault can produce for £50k compared to nearly £80k of Macan ( oh and you actually fit in the rear of this one) - I like French design but Renault is following Peugeot with to many fussy angles.
i also like what Renault is doing these days, both new style and retro, (pay attention Ford if you must keep resurrecting classic names just to put them on something that looks eff all like the old thing) plus the tech and comfort etc, hence why i ordered the new scenic Alpine EV to replace my Kona EV, roll on 29th dec to collect.
The only PHEV which has a sublime, high reliability, highly efficient drive train is on the RAV4. Having had a French PHEV in the past, plagued by reliability issues, there's no way I'd touch one again. Sticking with Toyota. It just works and it works every day. Toyota massively understated it's performance. French car manufacturer did the opposite.
Say, for instance, you want to drive from Bristol to London in one go, 125 miles. When the battery is depleted after 60 miles, I bet the fuel consumption is very poor. Lugging all that extra weight, to me that is the drawback of plugins they are great for shorter trips if you have home charging, but not such a good idea if you want to travel longer distances. I personally have a self-charging hybrid, now that is the best of both worlds-great economy all the time and no having to charge ever.
Renault is making some interesting, good-looking cars these days, as is Peugeot. The new 5 costs almost £30k in top spec, so perhaps £50k is not so bad. A Porsche with the same spec and technology would be north of 100k, I suspect. Red Rpck Road is the natural environment for a car with rear wheel steering.
It looks so much like the others but it does look nice not a lover of the wheels. The ice is to small to pull my caravan so still have my Mazda cx60 phev
Another good video Pete and nice looking car, but 50 grand for a Renault which doesn't even have a rear wiper!!. I believe depreciation would be horrific so maybe one for the used market.
Peter…a good review of a car with many surprises and not least how it rides and drives. I really like the look of the new Megane so will be interested to see this car in the metal. Yes £50000 for a Renault is brave but everything is overpriced and at least it is NOT made in China….support Europe and choose this instead of a cheap and nasty Yin Tong Ting Tong Superbird Extra Wave! P.S. Are you the next James Bond… I can see you in that role….suave, tanned, woman killer aftershave chosen by Tracey and set of steel dentures for the Petrol Pups…I’ll chose some music….cue Shirley Bassey and Matt Munro!!!😎😎😎😎R
That shot of the car coming towards the camera and the leaf blowing into picture 👌 great review. I do like this a lot, lots of French electrics to go wrong but I would give it a go, maybe an ex demonstrator or pre registered low milage and not new though, I can see the depreciation at that price being massive? Do we know the performance stats and also the tax bracket in the UK at that price with an ICE I am guessing rather a lot a year to tax?
Great video Pete. What a great road. Would love your thoughts on the comparison of the Renault versus the rav4 phev, both have 300hp. My rav4 charges up to 65 miles but real world on the trip is 52 miles tested by myself.
As a massive fan of the Alpine A110, all this Alpine badging on a 2.5 tonne PHEV SUV makes me feel so sad......with all this tech to go wrong no one will want to run these cars past the 3 year warranty.
I wonder if the EV range was designed to coincide with proposals for future ULEV zones in many cities. As I recall 60 miles was mentioned in a consultation paper about Londons zone some 10 years ago. I wonder if your next drive in this format car could be round your normal route to show off how well or otherwise it copes with UK roads.
Grumpy old me again having my reasons why I'm not a fan of plug in hybrid cars & especially one's that are 50k!!!😱 But I actually quite like it apart from certain preferences ie piano black around the dash & black wheel arches what is all that about soo many manufacturers are going black wheel arches!!🤔🤮 And the plug in Hybrid thing so its a no from me but awesome place for a test drive & a great review as ever PetrolPed !!👍🏻
Now try not to be grumpy but a Plug in Hybrid has a lot of merit when properly understood! I suspect you think the way many do in that you drive 30/40 miles then the battery is flat so you lug a mountain of dead weight around and hence get short EV running and a thirsty Tank to drive afterwards. Well that is NOT how to use them. A PHEV is a petrol car with electrical assistance at times. Charge it up…then choose the “ SAVE” option and you get a car that is electric at low speeds or when chosen, that pulls away using the regenerated and FREE electric from braking and that combines with the engine to give better fuel consumption and efficiency. My Range Rover Sport is a PHEV and I charge it maybe twice a week at home but my day to day mixed driving gives me 33/36 mpg and 40/44 mpg on the open road..motorways etc. it works brilliantly…no range anxiety…I can move it around or park without starting the engine and it is so quiet and refined everywhere else. Now I doubt you will agree or be convinced but for real world use, a PHEV is really good…just don’t run it flat then drive petrol only..that really is the worst way possible. Happy motoring! 🙂🙂🙂🙂
@HQBProductions WOW what a reply not from @PetrolPed tho?? I understand what you are saying but I travel a lot in France & Spain & that's the issues as when everyone pulls into a petrol station most times it's ramO & the queue is way too long to charge for my liking!!😬
Wow Renault are really delivering on new exciting cars at the moment. Is that real leather or a synthetic as I know they are going all out on sustainability at moment. It looks fabulous on the outside and the inside.
Looks like Renault will be inviting you to lots of launches after this live fest, but £50k, the cost of these compulsory safety features on new cars is insane, and in five years the screens and systems will be obsolete..
Thank you for sharing this test. In fact, the real alternative to the internal combustion engine would be closer to this superb Renault Rafale than to a 100ù electric car? I had planned to replace my PHEV with an electric car, but I think that this Rafale Atelier Alpine will do the job very well, with elegance and obviously a real pleasure to drive... And the video is perfect.
I have a Mazda CX60 PHEV and like it, except the ride is crashy and too firm. Please tell me this does better on bad roads, because otherwise I think this could be a contender for my next car. Also, can you charge the battery of the Rafale while driving like in my CX60, which is a useful function.
Nice car, I like the latest Renault range of cars...great colour too! Cost? Everything is getting expensive these days although Tesla's are getting cheaper so is it worth buying? I don't think so, not for me...I think it's time to go full Electric.
500mpg, my arse! We have a lovely A2 90 Sport on our small fleet which is now 20 years old and it still averages 60mpg. I expect it's going to outlive and cost less to run than any of these later PHEV's.
As others have said another lookie likie but from a practical point of view might be one of the better ones. It (and the others) dont fit my lifestyle however.
Must be a great way to get high depreciation.after watching Harry's garage latest video this car is exactly what most people don't want.all that technology, cameras controlling dampers won't last long ,it's a Renault.Alpine tuned , just a crap sales bullshit quote
Q. Pete. Did any part of the wheel block your view of the instruments. £50k car. Renault have a good 2-year deal on at the moment. The pain is the luxury car tax but a first world problem.
Starts at €53k and with all the options goes beyond €55000! €53000 for this. Something I honestly would NOT buy even for €30000. Look at that plastic interior. That's the lowest tier garbage materials for €53000. And look at the powertrain. It demands you to plug it in daily or else you're just lugging around a HUGE amount of weight using the miserable 1.2 l 150 HP ICE. Forget about any trips beyond 100 km in this. Your mileage will be horrible once that threshold is passed and the battery is depleted. Or maybe you want to sit somewhere for 2 h 55 min for every ~40 min spent driving at 120-130 km/h, to fully recharge the battery. Just the fact that this car exists is an insult. Massive bankruptcies cannot come soon enough and they are coming.
With regard to fuel consumption, assuming it is the same (unknown formula) as my Toyota PHEV C-HR, it is totally unrealistic. Let me explain, if I just run on EV I do not get a reading, just an infinity sign. Then if I drive all EV for 35 miles and then Gas for just 1 mile, I think the onboard computer looks at the 36 miles at the consumption of just 1 mile and states you are doing 300+ mpg or whatever. It does not take into account the kWh cost for the 35 miles and transferring it to money and then conjoining it with the cost of a gallon of fuel. The problem with the cars formula is if you do 35 miles on EV and then 1 or 2 or 3 etc on petrol you will get wildly different fuel consumptions. Listen the C-HR is a great car and by taking into account my EV consumption and Gallon cost the car is somewhere in between 150-200 mpg COST. Bust even this changes as the first 1000 miles took 5 gallons to top up, the same as the second 1000 miles but the third 1000 miles has only used 2 Gallons because a higher percentage of my driving is whin the EV range between charges Perhaps I have misunderstood how the “official” mpg are arrived at and if so can someone please enlighten me
Yeah, quite like that. Not so keen on the price though. Another thing I'm not keen on is this new COVID variant 🤮I'll soon be turning into that bloke on the Tunes advert...dottingham...
50K is no longer a premium car's pricetag. That starts at 70K+ nowadays... So for everyone telling 50K for this Renault is too much...no it isn't. It's even lower than i'd expected it to be. Really interesting and goodlooking car. The limited charging capabilities are a bit of a let down though.
Great car… again Renault !!! Wow are they upping their game! Great video as always Pete, and great choice of a road! Cheers, Tom
Thanks 👍
What a beautiful road! The perfect place to drive such a RED car. That colour is lovely. It's nice to see Alpine work their magic on an SUV.
It really is!
Great looking car. Been mega impressed with Renault styling recently. Can’t recall liking the design of a Renault for years and now like a lot of the recent releases!
Great looking car with interesting tech. However complexity is the enemy of reliability, and this appears to be a very complex vehicle.
Will be good value in a couple of years no doubt! Good review Pete, lovely camera work.
Thanks. I only had 1 GoPro as I left all my mounts at home 😬👍
Nice review Pete. Not my cup of tea but hey this should appeal to the tech nerds! 😜
Fair enough!
That red rock road really is special. Close to monaco ofcourse. And a car with a good 60 miles of real world range in ev only but still having that engine is the combination thats needed. Too many times these hybrids dont have enough full ev running range but this does and its a game changer. Welldone Renault.
I think a lot of VW Group's latest generation of plug-in hybrids have 100km of range and also fast DC charging - it seems to be the way they are all going.
@@davidy7004 but real world. In the cold and rain with the demister on and the heated seats on cruising at 70mph on the motorway into headwind and uphill majority of the miles. Will they actually do 60 miles of ev running only.
I recently bought a Renault Megane Etech Techno + in that Flame Red colour, with silver grey roof. Very eye catching, and gets a lot of looks.
I don’t know if I’m being a bit of a grumpy old man here but, while this is undoubtedly a very cleverly designed car and I don’t doubt pleasant to drive, I’m left wondering about how all these clever systems will be operating 10yrs down the road??… Adaptive suspension reading the road ahead for bumps, four wheel steer etc etc….. all very good if you’re buying a super car and have the money to maintain it into the future, but this is ultimately a ‘middle of the road family SUV’ which in 10yrs time will be changing hands for £5k not £50k, and the person paying 5k is not going to be able to afford to maintain/repair these systems. Sorry Renault/Alpine but the wrong direction here over complicating a day to day car…
Too much tech as per
I think 4Control exists since the early 2010's, so we should now have a good idea about the reliability of the tech.
Peter. I drove that road in June unfortunately I had heat stroke and felt very ill so did not enjoy the drive. That Renault looks interesting but I would not buy one even if I had the money
Top job again Ped, car looked great in that back drop, we aren't jealous at all 😂🏁
Thanks to you guys for the directions 😂
Whilst all of that technology sounds amazing, it makes me think that the package will cost a kidney when something goes wrong! I guess in today's mental pricing, £45k to £50 is almost acceptable. However, in the final I would go for a diesel or a BEV estate car.
What a fantastic location. Really enjoyed this and good to see renault really grasping the nettle
Thank you for another excellent video. That scenery!
I think Renault are on one at the minute. Never thought I'd hear myself saying that. Got the new Clio which I'm blown away by for the price.
Renault are on form and whilst I'm not the biggest fan of SUVs, these look pretty decent and I'd take one over any VAG offering these days that's for sure.
so 50k for a renault and the depreciation is? and the first year costs make this way more than it should be
I would still get this over an X2 any day of the week, plus most people lease their cars nowadays and this one is very competitive
hanging onto precepts from 3+ yrs ago isn’t going to serve you well
Great upload as usual.
Thank you! Cheers!
So glad to hear you call them dampers and not shock sbsorbers
Absolutely stunning and the car ain't bad either👌👌
Thanks 👍
The new MG HS Plug-in is £15k cheaper and has an EV range of up to 75 miles.
Difficult to compare a Rafale Atelier Alpine with an MG.
Great video stunning scenery and a very likeable car I think Renault are smashing it at the moment.
Totally 👍
I enjoyed watching the video, One of my favourite Coupe SUV’s 😊
Hi Sir Pete what a beautiful location to shot at for this video! The car color is very eye catching. This seems like a great car and decent looking. But I’ll never get one as that brand doesn’t sell over here. But definitely glad to see a hybrid review
A great second hand buy
For me, too risky with a 8y/160k km battery guarantee.
Great drive, the car looks really good, and having the extra large battery for around town brilliant, more car manufacturers need to get on board.
Couldn't agree more!
"styling" ( aka, teenage designers messing about with plastic) is the regular generic , faceless stuff - there's really nothing different here. the wheels are an appalling mess. Three engines ...really?
Display "design" ?? Nobody, in the automotive world has this nailed . Unfortunately, all manufacturers have outsourced their software and digital design to ensure you're 'locked; into a dash facility and design that will be stilted, aged and inconvenient within 2 years. There's a reason Microsoft and Apple and a 100 fone companies change their software all the time - and that's because , digital life-moves-on ALL THE TIME.
That's a nice road though - been on it - worth driving.
I like this one.Very good review.That road is stunning.
It really is!
Interesting to see how the BYD Seal U DM-i compares as its basically half the price, and has arguably more features, with similar massive range.
@@bigdhav the BYD at the same sport driving speed is going to fall into the cliff in this route .
BYD is a Communist China dictatorship sponsored brand. It is probably built by some political prisoners , so for sure it will be much cheaper than European brands.
Yea, perfect PHEV. That 65 miles in EV will cover most peoples journeys/commute, the 600 mile is twice any pure EV for longer, hassle free journeys.
A bit expensive, but it is high spec and quite fast.
The number of people who NEED 600 miles of daily range is tiny !
Even less people for doing this without stopping for a break.
You could do this in many EV’s stopping to charge for around 45mins [600 miles is well over 10 hours of driving - range is limited by bladder size and refreshment requirements. rather than the size of your fuel tank or battery]
@@SDK2006b No, the people that need 600 mile is almost everyone. It's what they're used to.
I don't want to have to fill up every 150 miles, that's just ridiculous.
If that was the case, why don't ICE cars have 15 litre tanks?
Yes, I may stop every couple of hours on a break, but I just don't want the hassle of having to find a charger to get going or make the return journey home.
@ - “almost everyone needs 600 miles of daily range “🤔🤣
Average UK daily mileage : 24 miles 🤷🏼♂️
You need to think differently, and not use an EV the same as you do with an ICE car. With an EV you charge it whilst it’s not being used - when it’s parked up, or whilst you are sleeping.
Doing it this way means it’s actually more convenient.
Nice looking car but 50k for a Renault!
This is the going price for such a car - want a similar BMW/Audi/Merc - they start from £70k. Skoda/Kia are from around £40k
Badges don't mean anything anymore. "Luxury" cars have a lot of cost-cutting in them, and at this time, it really feels like an almost level playing field.
@ - higher end badges still have value.
BMW/Audi/Merc still have much higher quality interiors than the Ford/Kia/Renault etc..and they also have more power & performance.
VAG restricts higher power to the more premium brands. This high end ‘Alpine’ Renault has less power, than entry level Audi/Merc/BMW offerings.
My BMW iX interior is massively better over the lower level brands - glass crystal controls, metal switches, ‘leather’ lined door panels and it feels more solid. The infotainment systems run faster processors, so there is less lag when navigating through the menus. There is also more sound insulation used, so the cabin is quieter.
Much of this can’t be realised by simply watching a YT video - you need to sit in them, drive them and use them for more than a couple of days to appreciate the differences.
@@SDK2006bIndeed if you sit in a Rafale, one of the first things you will notice is that its infotainment interface is extremely responsive with virtually no lag.
This could be a car from so multiple manufacturers......its so generic looking
Front, yes. Back, wtf?
This is the type of high performance hybrid drive train VW need to emulate for the next generation golf Gti
Red rock road baby!
Oh yes 🙌
Soon as you said 45k I moved on 😅
No it’s more like 49k !
I think your wrong I have the 200hp alpine version and drives very well and has some good grunt so don’t knock it
Imagine getting this service at your local independent garage in 5 years time.
@@bordersw1239 they won't know where to start WHEN it goes wrong.
Just like with any German cars, you keep the car while it's under warranty and sell it before it is up. Or just lease the damn thing like most people do, who wants to keep the same car for more than 5 years anyway lol
here in hungary get thes renaults with 5 years warrantee which covers almost everything expect brakes,clutch which wears out by usage. so most of the owners dont have to afraid of problems.
@@Oklm23 lol... in hungary the avarage age of cars is around 15-20 years... 1990's susuki swifts, 2000-2004 opel astra etc...bmw e46.If you buy a new car here,people think you stole money or in the past you put somebody out of the way :D
@@Zero1k97lol yeah well maybe not in Hungary then, but in Western Europe this car fully loaded leases for the same price of a much smaller/crappier X2 so it’s a no brainer!
Very funky looking car, Renault are often a bit out there with their design. £50k is a lot of money for any Renault but each to their own. The technology just keeps getting better, makes me wonder where it will all end?
It has an engine, auto gearbox and three electric motors - ouch!
Surely better to have one motor front and rear, with the front motor doubling up as the generator to run off the engine. Then fit a larger battery for more ev range. On longer journeys you are mostly cruising a roads or motorways where tou dont need full power or 4 wheel drive.
@@the_lost_navigator7266 agreed. Seems an awful lot to go wrong in the future. Most garages will be completely lost.
An engine, automatic transmission and three electric motors is the usual setup in every AWD hybrid Toyota and nobody's complaining
@@TfRsmokinmastaincluding Renault garages, I've heard
@@jmk9065 I've driven EV and Toyota hybrid CVT. I would much prefer the electric only drivetrain (with a range extender).
@@the_lost_navigator7266 You should check out Nissan's e-Power series hybrid then. Not the most fuel efficient on the motorway, but has this EV-like feeling
Currently driving an Akarna and enjoy that despite its 'Sheeps clothing' as you described. Really like the look of Rafale, it seems the next progression but its certainly pricey.
Same here :-)
Love the colour change of the Alpine logo and door lighting in the different modes. The market has been screaming out for a car with the range and performance it offers
Yeah. Didn’t spot that until I started editing 👌
At 60000+ euros (this is the cost of the presented trim) there is no need to buy a PHEV and have more maintenance costs down the road. Just buy a BMW iX2 or an Audi Q4 Quatro Etron. I would consider it for this version if the price was around 40000.
Nothing comparable. I've been in a Q4 e-tron. It is way smaller with way less equipement.
To get the same level of technology, performance, space and equipment you must give at least 20000+ € for BMW, Volvo, or Mercedes (I tested them).
I’m with you Ped, glad to see a hybrid with increased EV range and clever integration- I think people forget we are in a transition phase- Solid state / low impact batteries are probably 10years away from mass adoption, the charger infrastructure is probably 5 years away so why not make use of this combination- most of my inefficient car running is in town or traffic jams so EV for 80% of journeys and hybrid for the remainder- that is still a win in my book- interesting to see what Renault can produce for £50k compared to nearly £80k of Macan ( oh and you actually fit in the rear of this one) - I like French design but Renault is following Peugeot with to many fussy angles.
i also like what Renault is doing these days, both new style and retro, (pay attention Ford if you must keep resurrecting classic names just to put them on something that looks eff all like the old thing) plus the tech and comfort etc, hence why i ordered the new scenic Alpine EV to replace my Kona EV, roll on 29th dec to collect.
The only PHEV which has a sublime, high reliability, highly efficient drive train is on the RAV4. Having had a French PHEV in the past, plagued by reliability issues, there's no way I'd touch one again. Sticking with Toyota. It just works and it works every day. Toyota massively understated it's performance. French car manufacturer did the opposite.
I ran a RAV4 as a long termer and the Rafale is a much better drive 👍
Amazing road, was so much fun in a MINI. I want to go back!
Maybe they should have given him the new R5 hatch to try on the road. But as a MINI owner I’m thinking the same. 👍
It really is!
if I need PHEV and I have 50k I would rather get 2y old MB GLEde or 1yo GLC.... sorry, I love android automotive but cant stand the interior
Don’t buy GLE our has been so unreliable and terrible build quality
Say, for instance, you want to drive from Bristol to London in one go, 125 miles. When the battery is depleted after 60 miles, I bet the fuel consumption is very poor. Lugging all that extra weight, to me that is the drawback of plugins they are great for shorter trips if you have home charging, but not such a good idea if you want to travel longer distances. I personally have a self-charging hybrid, now that is the best of both worlds-great economy all the time and no having to charge ever.
But you wouldn’t drive the journey like that. You be best using it as a hybrid and getting excellent mpg 🤷♂️👍
People talking price....understandable. But... PHEV, 4WD, 4W-steering, adaptive suspension. Where can I get these four for cheaper?
Indeed 👍
I have zero interest in large SUVs, but this struck me as quite an attractive car and very well engineered.
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Renault is making some interesting, good-looking cars these days, as is Peugeot. The new 5 costs almost £30k in top spec, so perhaps £50k is not so bad. A Porsche with the same spec and technology would be north of 100k, I suspect. Red Rpck Road is the natural environment for a car with rear wheel steering.
Loads of rear headroom, well yes, because you’re literally squatting on the floor.
I tried the 200hp model and loved the cars design etc just to underpowered for me but this may be the game changer!
I totally agree!
excellent test
It looks so much like the others but it does look nice not a lover of the wheels. The ice is to small to pull my caravan so still have my Mazda cx60 phev
Great review but could you please show or at least discribe if there is storage space under the floor od the boot like in the 200HP version?
do you have any idea on why this kind of car is not available in Norway
It’s hard to understand why markets take some cars and not others 🤷♂️
Another good video Pete and nice looking car, but 50 grand for a Renault which doesn't even have a rear wiper!!. I believe depreciation would be horrific so maybe one for the used market.
What super Vista's and views from a really smart car 🚗🎉
Peter…a good review of a car with many surprises and not least how it rides and drives. I really like the look of the new Megane so will be interested to see this car in the metal. Yes £50000 for a Renault is brave but everything is overpriced and at least it is NOT made in China….support Europe and choose this instead of a cheap and nasty Yin Tong Ting Tong Superbird Extra Wave!
P.S. Are you the next James Bond… I can see you in that role….suave, tanned, woman killer aftershave chosen by Tracey and set of steel dentures for the Petrol Pups…I’ll chose some music….cue Shirley Bassey and Matt Munro!!!😎😎😎😎R
That shot of the car coming towards the camera and the leaf blowing into picture 👌 great review. I do like this a lot, lots of French electrics to go wrong but I would give it a go, maybe an ex demonstrator or pre registered low milage and not new though, I can see the depreciation at that price being massive? Do we know the performance stats and also the tax bracket in the UK at that price with an ICE I am guessing rather a lot a year to tax?
That leaf took some planning 😜😂
Interesting. I’m not clear, does the engine actually drive the front wheels or. Is it a range extender?
It had a six speed auto box, so not a range extender.
Yes the engine drives the wheels 👍
Great video Pete. What a great road. Would love your thoughts on the comparison of the Renault versus the rav4 phev, both have 300hp. My rav4 charges up to 65 miles but real world on the trip is 52 miles tested by myself.
As a massive fan of the Alpine A110, all this Alpine badging on a 2.5 tonne PHEV SUV makes me feel so sad......with all this tech to go wrong no one will want to run these cars past the 3 year warranty.
I wonder if the EV range was designed to coincide with proposals for future ULEV zones in many cities. As I recall 60 miles was mentioned in a consultation paper about Londons zone some 10 years ago.
I wonder if your next drive in this format car could be round your normal route to show off how well or otherwise it copes with UK roads.
A lot of VW Group's latest plug-in hybrids all claim >100km range so I wonder if it's a common threshold in the EU?
Grumpy old me again having my reasons why I'm not a fan of plug in hybrid cars & especially one's that are 50k!!!😱 But I actually quite like it apart from certain preferences ie piano black around the dash & black wheel arches what is all that about soo many manufacturers are going black wheel arches!!🤔🤮 And the plug in Hybrid thing so its a no from me but awesome place for a test drive & a great review as ever PetrolPed !!👍🏻
Now try not to be grumpy but a Plug in Hybrid has a lot of merit when properly understood! I suspect you think the way many do in that you drive 30/40 miles then the battery is flat so you lug a mountain of dead weight around and hence get short EV running and a thirsty Tank to drive afterwards. Well that is NOT how to use them. A PHEV is a petrol car with electrical assistance at times. Charge it up…then choose the “ SAVE” option and you get a car that is electric at low speeds or when chosen, that pulls away using the regenerated and FREE electric from braking and that combines with the engine to give better fuel consumption and efficiency. My Range Rover Sport is a PHEV and I charge it maybe twice a week at home but my day to day mixed driving gives me 33/36 mpg and 40/44 mpg on the open road..motorways etc. it works brilliantly…no range anxiety…I can move it around or park without starting the engine and it is so quiet and refined everywhere else. Now I doubt you will agree or be convinced but for real world use, a PHEV is really good…just don’t run it flat then drive petrol only..that really is the worst way possible. Happy motoring! 🙂🙂🙂🙂
@HQBProductions WOW what a reply not from @PetrolPed tho?? I understand what you are saying but I travel a lot in France & Spain & that's the issues as when everyone pulls into a petrol station most times it's ramO & the queue is way too long to charge for my liking!!😬
Wow Renault are really delivering on new exciting cars at the moment. Is that real leather or a synthetic as I know they are going all out on sustainability at moment. It looks fabulous on the outside and the inside.
Rear seat 👎🏻 good??
Companies should start making PHEV cars in India to reduce costs.
No one is going to pay 50k for this. Beautiful video though.
Fair enough!
In Germany, you currently receive up to 22% discount.
@@stephenlaw9827 count me in
Interesting car. Looks wise I like. Certainly would like the hybrid for the added range. 👍👍👍
Agreed!
Looks like Renault will be inviting you to lots of launches after this live fest, but £50k, the cost of these compulsory safety features on new cars is insane, and in five years the screens and systems will be obsolete..
Perfect road !
Yep 👍
Thank you for sharing this test. In fact, the real alternative to the internal combustion engine would be closer to this superb Renault Rafale than to a 100ù electric car? I had planned to replace my PHEV with an electric car, but I think that this Rafale Atelier Alpine will do the job very well, with elegance and obviously a real pleasure to drive...
And the video is perfect.
I have a Mazda CX60 PHEV and like it, except the ride is crashy and too firm. Please tell me this does better on bad roads, because otherwise I think this could be a contender for my next car. Also, can you charge the battery of the Rafale while driving like in my CX60, which is a useful function.
Yes 👍
Like you, I want a hybrid that does 50 miles in winter or summer. This is interesting. I wonder if it takes winter tyres?
Can’t see why not 👍
Nice car, I like the latest Renault range of cars...great colour too!
Cost? Everything is getting expensive these days although Tesla's are getting cheaper so is it worth buying?
I don't think so, not for me...I think it's time to go full Electric.
500mpg, my arse! We have a lovely A2 90 Sport on our small fleet which is now 20 years old and it still averages 60mpg. I expect it's going to outlive and cost less to run than any of these later PHEV's.
I am interested in that power train, but they need to put it in an estate then I would be more keen 👌🏼
As others have said another lookie likie but from a practical point of view might be one of the better ones. It (and the others) dont fit my lifestyle however.
Must be a great way to get high depreciation.after watching Harry's garage latest video this car is exactly what most people don't want.all that technology, cameras controlling dampers won't last long ,it's a Renault.Alpine tuned , just a crap sales bullshit quote
This is what my late grandpa used to say about cars with "all of these electronics they now put in" back in the 90s.
Hi Peds
Is this the AWD version? You made no comment about this
Yes and I did 👍
I like the four wheel steering however when it’s out of warranty it will cost a fortune.
Q. Pete. Did any part of the wheel block your view of the instruments. £50k car. Renault have a good 2-year deal on at the moment. The pain is the luxury car tax but a first world problem.
Lease it for 3 years and then turn it back!
First! Evening all! Hope everyone is doing well and have a great week. As it French it should be pronounced Refel rather than how it is spelt.
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Starts at €53k and with all the options goes beyond €55000! €53000 for this. Something I honestly would NOT buy even for €30000.
Look at that plastic interior. That's the lowest tier garbage materials for €53000.
And look at the powertrain. It demands you to plug it in daily or else you're just lugging around a HUGE amount of weight using the miserable 1.2 l 150 HP ICE. Forget about any trips beyond 100 km in this. Your mileage will be horrible once that threshold is passed and the battery is depleted. Or maybe you want to sit somewhere for 2 h 55 min for every ~40 min spent driving at 120-130 km/h, to fully recharge the battery.
Just the fact that this car exists is an insult. Massive bankruptcies cannot come soon enough and they are coming.
Lovley car , used a bargain ..2 - 3 year old @ prob 23 k with exrended warranty
3 electric and 1 petrol motors in a single car. Well i don't want to be the one paying for the service bills.
Sorry for being grumpy, I just see an overcomplicated, overpriced, generic average quality SUV, it's a big fat NO from me 🤷
Don't apologise dude, I've turned being a grumpy old man into an art form! 😜
Agreed. £50 grand FFS!
With regard to fuel consumption, assuming it is the same (unknown formula) as my Toyota PHEV C-HR, it is totally unrealistic. Let me explain, if I just run on EV I do not get a reading, just an infinity sign. Then if I drive all EV for 35 miles and then Gas for just 1 mile, I think the onboard computer looks at the 36 miles at the consumption of just 1 mile and states you are doing 300+ mpg or whatever. It does not take into account the kWh cost for the 35 miles and transferring it to money and then conjoining it with the cost of a gallon of fuel. The problem with the cars formula is if you do 35 miles on EV and then 1 or 2 or 3 etc on petrol you will get wildly different fuel consumptions. Listen the C-HR is a great car and by taking into account my EV consumption and Gallon cost the car is somewhere in between 150-200 mpg COST. Bust even this changes as the first 1000 miles took 5 gallons to top up, the same as the second 1000 miles but the third 1000 miles has only used 2 Gallons because a higher percentage of my driving is whin the EV range between charges
Perhaps I have misunderstood how the “official” mpg are arrived at and if so can someone please enlighten me
You could get a lovely X3 M40i for that price.
To get the closest same config : X3 30e xDrive 78000€
Yeah, quite like that. Not so keen on the price though. Another thing I'm not keen on is this new COVID variant 🤮I'll soon be turning into that bloke on the Tunes advert...dottingham...
Stays in electric and feels like an EV…. Only in the summer remember. As soon as you demand heat the engine will be running.
It's not a C segment car, it's a D segment car! Austral is a C segment car
50K is no longer a premium car's pricetag. That starts at 70K+ nowadays... So for everyone telling 50K for this Renault is too much...no it isn't. It's even lower than i'd expected it to be. Really interesting and goodlooking car. The limited charging capabilities are a bit of a let down though.
I would guess if that rear wheel steer goes wrong, the repair bill, will make your ears bleed.
It’s A-tel-ier not atilia Alpine..
Great review, fantastic location and a clever car, but with this much tech you’d really want a 7 year warranty like you get with a Kia 🤔
Fair enough!