Forgotten Lore: Urza's Saga (Part 2: Impact)
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Urza's Saga is "the lowest point of development in the history of the game." The most busted set ever made other than Alpha, this thing is nuts! Learn all about how the wheels fell off.
* MISTAKES:
- It's "Lilting" Refrain, not "Lifting"
- There were 16 total "hidden" enchantments, not 15; 6 in Green, 5 in White, and 5 in Blue (not 4 in blue)
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Urzas block is so good. So much flavor and powerful cards.
I was completely ignorant to how many insanely powerful cards were printed in this set. Almost every card that you listed as powerful I recognized, either from Commander or Legacy...I just can't fathom that all these cards were in the same set. That's just crazy. Thanks for the informative video Evan! Looking forward to the next one.
+Spartacus321 Hardly any of the cards are legal in Modern.
Okay.
Great series!
Every episode you release makes me more and more proud to have my name in the super patrons list in big bold letters. Money well spent.
Incredibly entertaining. As someone who's enjoyed historical/documentary style shows since I was a child, watching one on my favorite tcg was an easy choice. My only regret is failing to find this series sooner.
Also, as an added bonus, your voice is quite pleasant and very well suited for this type of documentary-style video, which always makes the watching process that much more enjoyable.
This series is the best thing you can watch on TH-cam. Cannot get enough, thanks Evan!
Agreed
A one-sentence summary of Urza's block: "If you're going to have power, might as well go overboard with it."
+Jordan Randall McKendrick Limits? Those are for other people.
One of the best magic sets ever.
People usually ask the question: "If something isn't broke why fix it?"
But I like more the idea of : "If something is broken why not breaking it even more?"
Oh god, the raging nostalgia boner I have right now. This is the most fun I ever had in Magic. I built such crazy nonsense back then, but the cool part was that everyone else did too. My friends and I had SO many cards, because hell, we were teenagers with crappy part time jobs and living at home. What else did we have to spend our money on? The owner of our LGS sold boxes for $65! SIXTY-FIVE DOLLARS! I bought box after box after box of these sets. I would sac Cradles to Crop Rotation to put Cradles into play, untap them with Cloud of Faeries, and have zillions of mana to do crazy shit. I loved it. I just utterly loved my high school period of Magic, Ice Age through Urzas block. It's part of the reason I find modern Magic design so dull and uninteresting. It doesn't feel "magic" anymore. It's part of the reason I'm working on an "Old Frames Only" format. The decks! Holy crap, the old frame only decks! Necro, Stax, Sligh, Ponza, Sui-Black, "fair" Sneak Attack, CadBloom, Astral Slide, U/G Threshold, Tendrils, oh man, oh man oh man oh man, this is going to be awesome. Nothing newer than Scourge, and it's going to be glorious!
I would implore people who are only familiar with the modern age of Magic design to familiarize themselves with this old stuff. It was amazing fun times. Even "bad" sets like The Dark were COOL.
Sadly, Mercadian Masques came out after this, my LGS closed it's doors, and my interest in Magic went kaput until Ravnica.
My interest in Magic is now going kaput again though. :(
I was one of the many people who quit playing during Urza's Saga. It was not fun at all to try and force drafting black every week, nor needing to play one of 2 decks in constructed (else you lose every game). I didn't return to the game until 2010, when I met my future wife and we talked about having played MTG back in the 90s. We were lucky to have kept our cards from back then since they had gone from maybe $50 total spent by both of us back then, to being worth well over $10,000.
great work Evan! thanks for keeping the series going!
urza block super busted. Thank you Evan, it helps me make my cube even more super busted and broken.
Evan I just want to say I really appreciate all the work you put in to making these videos. They are awesome keep it up
Video is soo great it doesn’t feel 4 years old
Another AMAZING video Evan! These videos are so in-depth and entertaining. They will/are become the visual history lesson of each MTG set or story line.
good stuff evan. keep it up
Great video, I love that you cover so much of the set + a lot of background knowlege! - you forgot one card "lifeline" :)
I think "all-time low point" still belongs to Mirrodin. I don't think the game has seen, or will ever see, a greater mass exodus of players from the game. I'm looking forward to those episodes of Forgotten Lore.
awesome series, good work
That was actually bloody great to watch, I'm glad to be a patron.
Again, awesome job!!
I started playing Magic around the Invasion block, but there were still a decent amount of Saga cards being used around where I played. In all honesty, I had a blast playing with them and regret to this day I didn't get more when they were cheaper (50 bucks for one pack on ebay?!). It blows my mind that the people who made the cards of my childhood almost got fired just for making powerful cards, but maybe thats just me. I mean, there are still plenty of broken cards and combos in Modern today, but I haven't heard of anyone getting sacked.
My fourth time watching, you have such a great reading voice and I love these videos please make more
Brilliant stuff Evan
Lol i bet Evan was so satisfied to make that GOT reference at the beginning
Great videos!
Awesome job. Thank you.
Thanks again for these, My wife loves the lore, and I love the history, So it was kinda nice having them divided up here.
Awesome vids as usal Evan
I like your work! Good video. Did you say "lifting refrain" rather than "lilting refrain"?
you know, even tho Urza was broken, it sure as hell seem alot more interesting than today's magic, I wish we would have those cool interactions
To think - in the history of this game, there was such Banlists. This game uses the Banlist sparingly - but when it is used, wow... does it ever get used. Oddly enough, only ONE Emergency Banning? Memory Jar?
YuGiOh always have a timely ban list, and something ALWAYS gets hit. WORSE when the deck win the World Championship (until that streak was broken this year.) And there were THREE Emergency Bans in the game's history... I just let this ENTIRE video do the talking, and man... I find myself amazed that this game is as... Balanced as it could be - to an extent.
Woah, this set was totally broken!
There's a part of me that wishes I played through this block. >.
this makes me fell young again =)
unlike Eldrazi Winter, Combo Winter had different combo decks.
It's LILTING Refrain, not LIFTING.
19:37 Masques was the all-time low of development in magic, not Urza's
"Feldon's Cane is UNBANNED"
what?
These days those set designers would be fired for making underpowered cards.
I think I was maybe 2 when combo winter happened, but it sounds like a lot of fun honestly
+Brony2onDA yeah I agree.I think modern day cubes show that many magic players to this day like what wizards was thinking in this set, and that even if having all of them together might have been a mistake, not printing those power level of cards one or two at a time also seems like a mistake to me, possibly a bigger mistake than the printing in the first place.
+tombulous I agree. The biggest mistake of the broken cards from this era isn't that they exist, it's that they all existed in the same Standard format at the same time and that creatures of the day were more or less weak compared to the other spells. It made it nearly impossible to play seriously at the time unless you were running mostly non-interactive combo decks. Another thing that rarely gets discussed about the time are the nearly mono-blue decks that could beat nearly anything but did literally nothing but counter and/or bounce everything you tried to do and wrathed away what it couldn't. Having access to Mana Leak, Counterspell, Forbid, Rewind, and Miscalculation, and Capsize meant that the blue mage could take control of the game from turn 2 or even 1 if he was running Lotus Petal. They would just sit there doing nothing but saying no or bouncing stuff and eventually beat you with a Morphling, one of the "free" creatures like Palinchron, or even just a Stalking Stones or Faerie Conclave. These things were nearly impossible to play with or against without the match going to time or very close to it.
Wow, I didn't mean to start in depth discussions...I just was stating how cool it would be to be able to play such broken combos
+Brony2onDA Those combos are cool the first time you play against them. After that, it quickly gets boring and if it is all that's ever happening you start losing interest.
I can understand that, but the deck builder inside of me admires how people used cards for purposes never intended for them. Also, it would make me want to be a counter combo deck :)
So as it turns out releasing a set full of powerful broken cards...results in players leaving and making the game worse. A truth which has been proven at least twice (if not more) it would seem over Magics History.
No wonder things are less powerful these days.
+BladedEdge123 Not really less powerfull, just more balanced. They did print treasure cruise after all. Deathrite Shaman, Dig Though Time, Supreme Verdict. Development just does a better job and is more focused.
only crap this was released so quickly, does this have to do with the fact you are no longer working with SCG?
Dude 20 min video is wayyyy to long for yt video.