Oh yeah - that would be much easier! For some reason, I thought you could only do that with chests and not wagons, but looking at 10:04, there's clearly a red X button on there. D'oh! Thank you for pointing that out 😀
@@LaurencePlays Nah, maybe adding a bit of explanation to the description. That's where I expected it to be when I watched the video. I'd also suggest adding these kind of small corrections / additions / new ideas for your tutorial series to some notes file. Then you can update everything in 1 go that needs to be updated when a sufficient quantity has accumulated (and/or the expansion comes out).
Another incredible tutorial, thanks for that! Currently working on my first playthrough with default biters, so I appreciate the direction on how to better handle the turret walls!
Thank you 🙂 Yes, making the walls self sufficient is very useful because then you can just ignore it while you work on more important things, like growing the factory!
It worked! It actually worked! Wow, now I have some smart train dispatching too. The game makes even more fun with such clever solutions. It's such a joy to watch how train leaves and arrives when they're needed. Thank you so much dude, you helped me alot. 👌
Awesome - I'm glad it's helped you out! Yeah, there's so much potential in the circuit networks for clever stuff like this. None of it's strictly needed, but it's so nice to have it working - useful and satisfying! Next step, LTN?
I'm glad it helped! Yeah, I like my outposts to be self contained and not require masses of cables to be run. Although if you make sure your rail blueprints include red and green cable from the start, then running it isn't so bad. 🙂
Awesome! Thanks for the support, there are various other tutorios on my channel, and if you want something a bit longer, perhaps check out the Space Exploration serieses.
You're welcome! Yeah, it's really useful having stuff just turn up when it's needed. We've done something vaguely similar, but more "on demand" with a lot of our delivery systems in our current K2SE game - check it out if you're interested!
That's a neat idea - as long as your wall bottlenecks fall close to an ore patch. I'd be a bit worried about the supply running out, but I guess you could make it summon a train anyway if it did run low on ammo. I tend to build my defense outposts on bottlenecks as much as possible, so they might be nowhere near an ore patch though.
@@LaurencePlaysi did that just to defend a single outpost, not for overall base defense. now i have a question, do i need a supply train running around between every mining outpost giving ammo and repairs, or is it just better to defend everything with large walls which are at the bottlenecks?
@@captheobbyist6434 I have tried both in the past and I reckon it's better to do the latter - have a perimeter wall that covers all of your interests, rather than defending each mine separately. The main reason for this is that I find biters tend to wander around a lot and sometimes get on the rails. Small ones, the trains can deal with but if they run into a group, they'll get slowed down and the trains get eaten. Which is annoying! Also, I think if you find good bottlenecks then you can get away with fewer turrets.
That's true, that is a possibility. If that does happen, your train will be stuck there until it runs out of whatever's being constantly used up, which isn't ideal. If you want to protect against that, you could tell the train to depart "after 5s of inactivity OR after 60 seconds".
@@kalacaptain4818 Yeah, that would work too. I think it's a bit more complicated to set up, but that's the wonder of Factorio - always lots of ways to do something!
Good advice. Bots will always find something to pick up, even if you think the area's clean, then they'll just float in the air looking sad. And nobody wants sad bots!
Handy stuff! Some thoughts: 1. I've stopped supplying my walls with repair kits, as 99.999% of the time, it is only a few (cheap) walls that are getting damaged and it is easier to just have the bot replace them as they are destroyed. It also keeps the bots, themselves, from getting damaged. 2. I place my roboports as far as possible from the walls so that when the bots respond to a destroyed wall, they don't get there until *AFTER* the horde has been destroyed. 3. The 'Filter Assistant' mod is an absolute *godsend.* It makes setting up & copying filters downright *trivial.* Cheers!
I've definitely considered whether it's worth repairing walls since as you say, they're probably cheaper than the repair packs! I just worry that one would break at exactly the wrong moment, and let the biters flood in! I've also put roboports further back (I guess you could place them so they can get to the lasers but not the walls, and then just repai the stuff you care about!), that would ahve been worth mentioning. That mod does look interesting! I don't tend to be setting filters all that often, so I probably won't bother, but it's definitely interesting - thanks.
@@JuddMan03 I think you're right (there's somewhere where copy/paste doesn't work and I can never remember where - pretty sure it's not here though!) - and that would be much easier 🙂
so i commented a problem on another video but i didnt know you could select certain items in a train wagon and its solved my problem, learn something new each day, thanks
I know this is an old video, but i am trying to use the method with a single inserter and circuits just to show off, but i am having trouble wiht a detail. If, for some reason, my train doesnt have enough material (for instance, when its unloading, the robots start to use the itens), the inserter will ask for more of that same item, but the train wont have it, so it wont pull any of the other itens from the list. Any way to fix that? My huge brain was thinking about setting the train to "inactivity 10 seconds - Go to main base to get more supply" and come back with more of the needed item.
Your way would indeed work, but it's not ideal because it means the trains are running around unnecessarily. You could use a non-stack filter inserter (the purple ones) because they have multiple filter slots, but that's not ideal because it would slow down the unloading. I asked on my Discord server if anyone had any ideas and got a rather nice answer! - Tell the station to "read train contents" and connect it to a decider combinator. "For each >0, output 1 of each". This will take the train contents and for any present items, normalise to 1 (ie, 20 turrets becomes 1 turret, 0 walls becomes 0 walls) - Take the signal that you were feeding to the filter inserter to another decider combinator with the same settings. - Feed both those signals from the combinators into a third decider combinator that's set to "For each >1, output 1 of each". This will mean that only signals which has both demand and supply will be passed through. Feed this to the inserter and use it to set the filter. Note that I set that to >1 instead of >0, this is important! If you'd like to discuss this further, you can find a link to the Discord server at the bottom of the video description. 🙂
I might have to try this. Recently got factorio and have 250 hours into it and 210ish in my main world and I just use a spidertron with robot to replace or repair. Only issue I have is I spent way to long clearing land and putting walls way out away from my base so it’ll be a lot of rails to make a loop sine I’ll probably send an artillery train as well to clear bitter bases near my walls
The good news is that rails are relatively cheap, and if you've cleared that much space out then I'm sure you're not short of stone or iron ore patches! It's very nice having all the defences automated and not having to worry about when to send the spider out though. Of course, if you've built out beyond the edges of your pollution cloud, you won't be getting many attacks, so you shouldn't need to do too much repairing!
@@LaurencePlays Finally got around and set this up in my new world I started and boy does it make a difference. In my first world i used Spiders to clear nest and build and would always have to go back for more supplies after about 20 paste of my wall. Now i build the laser turrets and anything else i don't have on my train to protect the wall and get the robots to build the rest eventually. Even started using artily trains to clear nest i feel like I'm going 4x faster this time around setting up my permitter
@@zanekubicek2186 Awesome! Yes, having your trains doing the hard work for you makes such a difference. And it means they'll all be kept supplied in the future, without needing any input from you.
For the extra credit scenario, what do you do when the inserter is holding more item than can be inserted into the train and freezes? I've come up with a way to control the stack size and change it to 1 if the amount required in the inventory is less than 5 (or rather, greater than -5). Is there a simpler method you use?
In this specific case, I've only used the single inserter system for unloading, so that isn't a problem - as long as there's enough space in the unloading chest to take everything you've asked for, and an additional inserter load (of each) besides. If I was trying to do that for loading the train as well, then I'd use the same idea - I'd monitor the train's contents and when it got to the level I wanted, I'd stop inserting, and I'd make sure that there was room for an inserter's worth of excess. That said, I prefer your system because it allows you to hit a precise total, rather than just stopping when it's just over what you want. It's more complicated, but it's cleverer, which is very much in the spirit of what I was talking about with the extra credits!
@@LaurencePlays I, Sir, am honored. If there's one thing I do well it's over-complicating things. I'm going to have work on framing it as clever though. Cheers 🍻
Is it possible to program the train that skips the next station if it's not available? So I could have one supply train supporting multiple front lines.
Yes - if a station is disabled, the train will skip it. If it has its train limit set to 0, the train will wait until the station becomes available. This means there are two ways to do what you want: - you can have all of your outposts with different station names, have them disable when they don't need a train and have all the stations in the train's schedule - you can have all your outposts with the same name and have them set their train limit to 0 when they don't need a train. I prefer the latter - it means you don't need to change the train's settings when you build a new outpost, and it means that the train won't visit all the stations which need stuff, even if its unloaded all its resources at the first station.
I feel like there is an (at least mathmatically) simpler way to set up the single inserter layout. Although the issue may just be on the fact that you can't filter out the bots and repair packs. then again, might as well forward it from the box to the roboport. I am not that well versed in factorio logistics yet.
Hi i have a question, I set up my train stations exactly like the video but since i had multiple outposts that were far apart I had to add multiple trains too. But the problem is that every train always tries to go to the first outpost station and since that station is not active (train limit is zero) it doesn't start and just says station is full, i want them to ignore the first one and just go to the rest
If it's saying station is full, it sounds like the near one is correct and the problem is with the other one. I'd suggest making sure the other one is named properly and has its train limit set properly. Oh, and that it's not disabled.
@@LaurencePlays all the train stations have different names, the first station is full and its train limit is zero, all the other ones are set to one... Right now one of my trains is ready to depart but when I watch its schedule list it is stuck on my first station and the train says "destination full" and doesn't move.
@@Sams-xi7xf That's where you've gone wrong then. The outpost stations should all have the same name; the trains will then go to the closest one that needs supplies.
Hey! Thanks for this guide! I just noticed something weird though, when I walk into a logistic network for my outpost station, I get random output signals (like wood and random power poles) that don't appear in the storage boxes at the train depot. Where are these coming from?
I suspect you've got another storage box somewhere in the robonetwork which has ended up with some random junk in it from you deconstructing things. I assume you're reading from the robonetwork, rather than from the chests? Have a look around, if you can't find it, maybe deconstruct and reconstruct roboports until you find roughly where it is!
@@LaurencePlays That's what I suspected, too, but nope. I think they're reading stuff from my "trash" spots in my own "inventory logistics". Is there some checkbox that would enable that?
@@corney8807 late reply, but your trash slots are acting like a mobile active provider chest. Construction bots will even come get your trash slot items if they can use them to build something.
Yes! There are a couple of differences. The biggest one is that if a station is disabled, a train will skip it and move on to the next one in its itinerary (unless there's another one available with the same name). If a station has its train limit set to zero, the train will wait at the previous station until the limit changes. These can both be useful depending on what you want the train to do! If the train just goes back and forth between two stations though, this doesn't apply. The second difference is more obvious - if you control the station through the train limit, you can choose to have multiple trains heading to the station at the same time if it's very short of supplies. This can be useful for mining trains going to a smeltery, for example.
@@coletraintechgames2932 that depends on the stage of the game you're at... It could be turret creep, tank, artillery nukes or personal laser defences!
@@LaurencePlays Thank you for responding. I am late stage. Just got nuke. I am not quick enough, the biters overwhelm the tank, I have to do this "battle box" where I move it out one or two roboport distances at a time and it just takes forever
@@coletraintechgames2932 It's been a while since I've played late game vanilla, but I think the tank is only useful for a little while. Once you have power armour 2, fusion power and exoskeletons, you're better off out of the tank running round at crazy speeds yourself. But also, artillery is great!
Hey, thanks for the great video! Exactly what I was looking for. Quick question, for an ore outpost, is it possible to use the same train stop for both the ore train and the supply train? If we redo your design, the ore train will be unable to go there since the station accepts 0 trains, but I'm thinking it might be doable with some circuit magic.
With this design, I don't think it's possible to make a single station work for both. With LTN, you could have it sort of work, but you'd be bringing a lot of the outpost resources in. I think the best way to do this would be to have two stations overlapping. Put your ore pickup station in as normal, then put an additional train stop a couple of squares behind the main one and use that for your outpost, with the inserters and chests on the opposite side of the rails. That way you wouldn't need a second line. Make sure there's room for both trains to wait though, or you might clog your mainline!
Hi very nice tutorial. I rebuild it without roboport and it didn't work. I was wondering why it doesn't work. Then I was thinking through the whole system and asked myself where does the combinator in your video know about the chest content so it can go to zero. Then I got it! The combinator knows it from the roboport logistic network. Maybe the fact that the roboport delivers the positive values from the logistic chests should be pointed out a little more clearly when describing the system. I solved it by just connecting the chests with a red wire to the inserters.
He says that he puts twice the amount of minimum in filter manipulators to avoid situations where a train would be departing to restock a single stone wall, but he doesn’t put twice the amount? I don’t understand this moment
I guess I wasn't clear enough - when there's no walls in stock, the signal is -100 because of the combinator. When the train comes to restock the station, it will unload until the signal reaches 100 walls, which means there'll be 200 in the chest (200 walls, -100 from the combinator = 100 on the signal). This is what I meant by having twice the minimum. "I'll set my numbers up so I have twice the minimum" meaning "I'll set the number on the filter inserter such that I get twice the minimum in the chest when it unloads". Does that help? 🙂
@@LaurencePlays Oh yes, thank you for taking the time to answer. I had given it some thought and figured it out after around 10 minutes, after which I forgot to edit my comment. Your answer is very clear at explaining it! It’s like an integer that goes both in a negative and a positive directions, so you should think from -100 to 100 all the way, giving 200 as a result. 👍 Great video!
I hope my videos help! I go through them from the basics of how they work, scheduling, this one for outposts and then the LTN ones if you want to go the full distance.
you can use the inventory limit on train wagons so you don't need the fish filters
Oh yeah - that would be much easier! For some reason, I thought you could only do that with chests and not wagons, but looking at 10:04, there's clearly a red X button on there. D'oh! Thank you for pointing that out 😀
Additionally, it also allows you to put the "Full Cargo" filter at the supplying station.
This should prevent the loop issue you mentioned at 10:41.
@@stevengeens3055That's a very good point! That's a much better way to do it. Do I have to remake the video now? 😲
@@LaurencePlays
Nah, maybe adding a bit of explanation to the description. That's where I expected it to be when I watched the video.
I'd also suggest adding these kind of small corrections / additions / new ideas for your tutorial series to some notes file. Then you can update everything in 1 go that needs to be updated when a sufficient quantity has accumulated (and/or the expansion comes out).
Such a comprehensive and smart videos. Thank you very very much!
Thank you! I like to try to spread some of my good ideas around, and help other people try them out too 🙂
Another incredible tutorial, thanks for that! Currently working on my first playthrough with default biters, so I appreciate the direction on how to better handle the turret walls!
Thank you 🙂 Yes, making the walls self sufficient is very useful because then you can just ignore it while you work on more important things, like growing the factory!
It worked! It actually worked! Wow, now I have some smart train dispatching too. The game makes even more fun with such clever solutions. It's such a joy to watch how train leaves and arrives when they're needed. Thank you so much dude, you helped me alot. 👌
Awesome - I'm glad it's helped you out! Yeah, there's so much potential in the circuit networks for clever stuff like this. None of it's strictly needed, but it's so nice to have it working - useful and satisfying! Next step, LTN?
Thanks for sharing that - a very elegant solution which saves stringing red and green wires for miles.
I'm glad it helped! Yeah, I like my outposts to be self contained and not require masses of cables to be run. Although if you make sure your rail blueprints include red and green cable from the start, then running it isn't so bad. 🙂
Hey Laurence! I was randomly recommended this and I like it a lot. Keep it up!
Awesome! Thanks for the support, there are various other tutorios on my channel, and if you want something a bit longer, perhaps check out the Space Exploration serieses.
super concise, knowledgeable and clear tutorial! thank you for saving me hundreds of hours 😭
My pleasure! It's a design I've spent quite a bit of time tweaking, so I wanted to show it off!
Fantastic tutorial! Always wondered how to make a supply train. Thank you!
You're welcome! Yeah, it's really useful having stuff just turn up when it's needed. We've done something vaguely similar, but more "on demand" with a lot of our delivery systems in our current K2SE game - check it out if you're interested!
A+ for the excellent pacing on this video! Too many factorio videos are a slog to watch, but this one is snappy!
Thanks! I try to keep them short and to the point because I know how annoying a long intro is when you just want to see the content 🙂
for my first outpost, i just added a few spaces for ammo inside the ore train, and then unload it at the outpost
That's a neat idea - as long as your wall bottlenecks fall close to an ore patch. I'd be a bit worried about the supply running out, but I guess you could make it summon a train anyway if it did run low on ammo. I tend to build my defense outposts on bottlenecks as much as possible, so they might be nowhere near an ore patch though.
@@LaurencePlaysi did that just to defend a single outpost, not for overall base defense. now i have a question, do i need a supply train running around between every mining outpost giving ammo and repairs, or is it just better to defend everything with large walls which are at the bottlenecks?
@@captheobbyist6434 I have tried both in the past and I reckon it's better to do the latter - have a perimeter wall that covers all of your interests, rather than defending each mine separately. The main reason for this is that I find biters tend to wander around a lot and sometimes get on the rails. Small ones, the trains can deal with but if they run into a group, they'll get slowed down and the trains get eaten. Which is annoying! Also, I think if you find good bottlenecks then you can get away with fewer turrets.
TRAINS HAVE ITEM FILTERS?! Dude you are a god send lmao 💙🤓 subbed
Hah, I'm glad I could help! Yeah, there's so many tricks and features in this game...
10:45 on a wall with constant attacks, esp. the fluids might cause the inactivity counter to never reach 5s.
That's true, that is a possibility. If that does happen, your train will be stuck there until it runs out of whatever's being constantly used up, which isn't ideal. If you want to protect against that, you could tell the train to depart "after 5s of inactivity OR after 60 seconds".
just set the condition to trigger when over a certain amount, eg you put a tank down and make the condition >20k
@@kalacaptain4818 Yeah, that would work too. I think it's a bit more complicated to set up, but that's the wonder of Factorio - always lots of ways to do something!
5:48 if you use red chests, you should add at least one yellow one as well. The bots tend to pick up stuff and don’t know where to put it otherwise.
Good advice. Bots will always find something to pick up, even if you think the area's clean, then they'll just float in the air looking sad. And nobody wants sad bots!
Handy stuff! Some thoughts:
1. I've stopped supplying my walls with repair kits, as 99.999% of the time, it is only a few (cheap) walls that are getting damaged and it is easier to just have the bot replace them as they are destroyed. It also keeps the bots, themselves, from getting damaged.
2. I place my roboports as far as possible from the walls so that when the bots respond to a destroyed wall, they don't get there until *AFTER* the horde has been destroyed.
3. The 'Filter Assistant' mod is an absolute *godsend.* It makes setting up & copying filters downright *trivial.*
Cheers!
I've definitely considered whether it's worth repairing walls since as you say, they're probably cheaper than the repair packs! I just worry that one would break at exactly the wrong moment, and let the biters flood in! I've also put roboports further back (I guess you could place them so they can get to the lasers but not the walls, and then just repai the stuff you care about!), that would ahve been worth mentioning.
That mod does look interesting! I don't tend to be setting filters all that often, so I probably won't bother, but it's definitely interesting - thanks.
That middle click trick is so clutch thank you
Yeah, being able to lock slots is really useful to let you limit loading.
Once you selected an item you can quickly copy that filter to other slots using shift + right click and shift + left click.
@@JuddMan03 I think you're right (there's somewhere where copy/paste doesn't work and I can never remember where - pretty sure it's not here though!) - and that would be much easier 🙂
you can also use circuit conditions on train schedules, might help with edge cases like fluid slowly draining forever.
That's true; it's something I've used a few times but I didn't feel it was necessary for the design here. 🙂
so i commented a problem on another video but i didnt know you could select certain items in a train wagon and its solved my problem, learn something new each day, thanks
I know this is an old video, but i am trying to use the method with a single inserter and circuits just to show off, but i am having trouble wiht a detail. If, for some reason, my train doesnt have enough material (for instance, when its unloading, the robots start to use the itens), the inserter will ask for more of that same item, but the train wont have it, so it wont pull any of the other itens from the list. Any way to fix that? My huge brain was thinking about setting the train to "inactivity 10 seconds - Go to main base to get more supply" and come back with more of the needed item.
Your way would indeed work, but it's not ideal because it means the trains are running around unnecessarily. You could use a non-stack filter inserter (the purple ones) because they have multiple filter slots, but that's not ideal because it would slow down the unloading.
I asked on my Discord server if anyone had any ideas and got a rather nice answer!
- Tell the station to "read train contents" and connect it to a decider combinator. "For each >0, output 1 of each". This will take the train contents and for any present items, normalise to 1 (ie, 20 turrets becomes 1 turret, 0 walls becomes 0 walls)
- Take the signal that you were feeding to the filter inserter to another decider combinator with the same settings.
- Feed both those signals from the combinators into a third decider combinator that's set to "For each >1, output 1 of each". This will mean that only signals which has both demand and supply will be passed through. Feed this to the inserter and use it to set the filter. Note that I set that to >1 instead of >0, this is important!
If you'd like to discuss this further, you can find a link to the Discord server at the bottom of the video description. 🙂
I might have to try this. Recently got factorio and have 250 hours into it and 210ish in my main world and I just use a spidertron with robot to replace or repair. Only issue I have is I spent way to long clearing land and putting walls way out away from my base so it’ll be a lot of rails to make a loop sine I’ll probably send an artillery train as well to clear bitter bases near my walls
The good news is that rails are relatively cheap, and if you've cleared that much space out then I'm sure you're not short of stone or iron ore patches! It's very nice having all the defences automated and not having to worry about when to send the spider out though.
Of course, if you've built out beyond the edges of your pollution cloud, you won't be getting many attacks, so you shouldn't need to do too much repairing!
@@LaurencePlays Finally got around and set this up in my new world I started and boy does it make a difference. In my first world i used Spiders to clear nest and build and would always have to go back for more supplies after about 20 paste of my wall. Now i build the laser turrets and anything else i don't have on my train to protect the wall and get the robots to build the rest eventually. Even started using artily trains to clear nest i feel like I'm going 4x faster this time around setting up my permitter
@@zanekubicek2186 Awesome! Yes, having your trains doing the hard work for you makes such a difference. And it means they'll all be kept supplied in the future, without needing any input from you.
For the extra credit scenario, what do you do when the inserter is holding more item than can be inserted into the train and freezes? I've come up with a way to control the stack size and change it to 1 if the amount required in the inventory is less than 5 (or rather, greater than -5). Is there a simpler method you use?
In this specific case, I've only used the single inserter system for unloading, so that isn't a problem - as long as there's enough space in the unloading chest to take everything you've asked for, and an additional inserter load (of each) besides. If I was trying to do that for loading the train as well, then I'd use the same idea - I'd monitor the train's contents and when it got to the level I wanted, I'd stop inserting, and I'd make sure that there was room for an inserter's worth of excess. That said, I prefer your system because it allows you to hit a precise total, rather than just stopping when it's just over what you want. It's more complicated, but it's cleverer, which is very much in the spirit of what I was talking about with the extra credits!
@@LaurencePlays I, Sir, am honored. If there's one thing I do well it's over-complicating things. I'm going to have work on framing it as clever though. Cheers 🍻
@@samwheller Call it "intricate", then it sounds deliberate. 😀
Phenomenal video!
@@mckni5 thanks 😀 let me know if you see other areas I should cover!
Great video. Many thanks.
I’m using a mouse without a middle mouse button. Is there any way to set filters without this middle mouse button? Cheers
Yes, if you go into the settings and controls, scroll down to the inventory section, you can rebind "Toggle filter" to whatever other key you want 🙂
Is it possible to program the train that skips the next station if it's not available? So I could have one supply train supporting multiple front lines.
Yes - if a station is disabled, the train will skip it. If it has its train limit set to 0, the train will wait until the station becomes available.
This means there are two ways to do what you want:
- you can have all of your outposts with different station names, have them disable when they don't need a train and have all the stations in the train's schedule
- you can have all your outposts with the same name and have them set their train limit to 0 when they don't need a train.
I prefer the latter - it means you don't need to change the train's settings when you build a new outpost, and it means that the train won't visit all the stations which need stuff, even if its unloaded all its resources at the first station.
I feel like there is an (at least mathmatically) simpler way to set up the single inserter layout. Although the issue may just be on the fact that you can't filter out the bots and repair packs. then again, might as well forward it from the box to the roboport. I am not that well versed in factorio logistics yet.
It's quite likely there's a better way to do something - I wouldn't be too surprised if I missed an improvement! Let me know if you find it 😀
Hi i have a question, I set up my train stations exactly like the video but since i had multiple outposts that were far apart I had to add multiple trains too.
But the problem is that every train always tries to go to the first outpost station and since that station is not active (train limit is zero) it doesn't start and just says station is full, i want them to ignore the first one and just go to the rest
If it's saying station is full, it sounds like the near one is correct and the problem is with the other one. I'd suggest making sure the other one is named properly and has its train limit set properly. Oh, and that it's not disabled.
@@LaurencePlays all the train stations have different names, the first station is full and its train limit is zero, all the other ones are set to one... Right now one of my trains is ready to depart but when I watch its schedule list it is stuck on my first station and the train says "destination full" and doesn't move.
@@Sams-xi7xf That's where you've gone wrong then. The outpost stations should all have the same name; the trains will then go to the closest one that needs supplies.
@@LaurencePlays thank you it's completely solved now
@@Sams-xi7xf Happy to help! 🙂
Hey! Thanks for this guide! I just noticed something weird though, when I walk into a logistic network for my outpost station, I get random output signals (like wood and random power poles) that don't appear in the storage boxes at the train depot. Where are these coming from?
I suspect you've got another storage box somewhere in the robonetwork which has ended up with some random junk in it from you deconstructing things. I assume you're reading from the robonetwork, rather than from the chests? Have a look around, if you can't find it, maybe deconstruct and reconstruct roboports until you find roughly where it is!
@@LaurencePlays That's what I suspected, too, but nope. I think they're reading stuff from my "trash" spots in my own "inventory logistics". Is there some checkbox that would enable that?
@@corney8807 late reply, but your trash slots are acting like a mobile active provider chest. Construction bots will even come get your trash slot items if they can use them to build something.
is there any difference between enable/disable and setting train limits to 1/0 respectively?
Yes! There are a couple of differences.
The biggest one is that if a station is disabled, a train will skip it and move on to the next one in its itinerary (unless there's another one available with the same name). If a station has its train limit set to zero, the train will wait at the previous station until the limit changes. These can both be useful depending on what you want the train to do! If the train just goes back and forth between two stations though, this doesn't apply.
The second difference is more obvious - if you control the station through the train limit, you can choose to have multiple trains heading to the station at the same time if it's very short of supplies. This can be useful for mining trains going to a smeltery, for example.
How do you clear the biters to make the outpost?
@@coletraintechgames2932 that depends on the stage of the game you're at... It could be turret creep, tank, artillery nukes or personal laser defences!
@@LaurencePlays Thank you for responding. I am late stage. Just got nuke. I am not quick enough, the biters overwhelm the tank, I have to do this "battle box" where I move it out one or two roboport distances at a time and it just takes forever
@@coletraintechgames2932 It's been a while since I've played late game vanilla, but I think the tank is only useful for a little while. Once you have power armour 2, fusion power and exoskeletons, you're better off out of the tank running round at crazy speeds yourself.
But also, artillery is great!
great tutorial thank you
Thanks!
Hey, thanks for the great video! Exactly what I was looking for. Quick question, for an ore outpost, is it possible to use the same train stop for both the ore train and the supply train? If we redo your design, the ore train will be unable to go there since the station accepts 0 trains, but I'm thinking it might be doable with some circuit magic.
With this design, I don't think it's possible to make a single station work for both. With LTN, you could have it sort of work, but you'd be bringing a lot of the outpost resources in. I think the best way to do this would be to have two stations overlapping.
Put your ore pickup station in as normal, then put an additional train stop a couple of squares behind the main one and use that for your outpost, with the inserters and chests on the opposite side of the rails. That way you wouldn't need a second line. Make sure there's room for both trains to wait though, or you might clog your mainline!
@@LaurencePlays Ah yes of course. Thanks !
Hi very nice tutorial. I rebuild it without roboport and it didn't work. I was wondering why it doesn't work. Then I was thinking through the whole system and asked myself where does the combinator in your video know about the chest content so it can go to zero. Then I got it! The combinator knows it from the roboport logistic network. Maybe the fact that the roboport delivers the positive values from the logistic chests should be pointed out a little more clearly when describing the system. I solved it by just connecting the chests with a red wire to the inserters.
thanks for the video laurence
You're welcome! I'll keep them coming 🙂
Hurray! very nice :)
Thank you 🙂
@@LaurencePlays It is very appreciated that you make these videos' after a request. Show you care about your follower :D
@@ZeGeeN Oh, definitely! And I appreciate being given ideas as well 🙂
Super!
He says that he puts twice the amount of minimum in filter manipulators to avoid situations where a train would be departing to restock a single stone wall, but he doesn’t put twice the amount? I don’t understand this moment
I guess I wasn't clear enough - when there's no walls in stock, the signal is -100 because of the combinator. When the train comes to restock the station, it will unload until the signal reaches 100 walls, which means there'll be 200 in the chest (200 walls, -100 from the combinator = 100 on the signal). This is what I meant by having twice the minimum.
"I'll set my numbers up so I have twice the minimum" meaning "I'll set the number on the filter inserter such that I get twice the minimum in the chest when it unloads". Does that help? 🙂
@@LaurencePlays Oh yes, thank you for taking the time to answer. I had given it some thought and figured it out after around 10 minutes, after which I forgot to edit my comment. Your answer is very clear at explaining it! It’s like an integer that goes both in a negative and a positive directions, so you should think from -100 to 100 all the way, giving 200 as a result. 👍 Great video!
@@sungvin Exactly! Well, I'm glad I explained anyway - if you were confused, I expect other people were too, and perhaps they'll see this explanation!
trains in factorio will be the death of me
I hope my videos help! I go through them from the basics of how they work, scheduling, this one for outposts and then the LTN ones if you want to go the full distance.
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"Now play the 'build' sound 100 times at the same time!"