The BEST Design in Factorio | Main BUS Factorio Tutorial (tips and tricks guide)
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- Main BUS - Factorio beginner's guide (Tips And Tricks Tutorial)
Factorio tips and tricks for new players plus common mistakes that beginners might do in Factorio. It's a list of the most useful things for everybody who just starts with this awesome game. If you are more advence Factorio player you can still watch and comment how many of those mistakes did you make.
I'll make tutorials for other topics like Factorio speedrun or Factorio trains
if you have idea for other factorio tips and tricks video or factorio guide let me know in the comments :D
Welcome to the world of Factorio, where automation and ingenuity combine to create an addictive gaming experience! 🏭🤖 In this comprehensive beginner's guide, we'll dive into the essential tips and tricks that will kickstart your journey in Factorio. Whether you're a newcomer or a seasoned player looking for a refresher, this video has something for everyone.
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00:00 Intro
00:37 What is Main Bus?
01:18 Where to build Main Bus
01:57 Supply area in Main Bus
02:51 Main belt in Main Bus
03:45 Crafting area in Main Bus
04:55 What to put on Main Bus
06:30 How to balance Main Bus
08:00 Main Bus for fluids
10:28 Main Bus in modded Factorio
11:25 Outro
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One thing you forgot to mention is the importance of adding buffers to items being placed on the bus. (Did you know that just one stack inserter placing on the input side of a splitter can (almost) completely fill a yellow belt lane?)
Here is a blueprint string for a buffer setup to test it with: 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Cheers!
It'd be nice if you attepted to talk like a normal person. Seems like there might good information here but you're impossible to understand. Whatever that accent is, it is absolutely the dumbest accent in the world.
"You were the chosen one. It was said that you would destroy the BUS not join them"
I do a little bit of trolling :)
"I take part in a minor amount of tomfoolery"
Comment section is like:
Trupen: this design is good for your startup (first playthroughs)
Commenters: this doesn't scale to interplanetary levels of production, bad advice
what can I say, it is what it is
Actually you can scale this to a ridiculus degree but other options are way better for that. The funny things is that when you scale this to absolutely brutal levels the bus becomes wider, than long.
@@attilatorok5767 Instead I had the idea to inject items into the whatever width bus where it started getting empty. Thus effectively turning that bandwidth-starved bus into a train-based build. Not that I've ever built that :)
My comment is that is too big for new players not too small. Interpanetary scale requires separate factories, not the original (in my opinion).
I am disappointed that the diagonal bus did not get enough screen time :(
unfortunately it also not get a lot of time in the next smelting video...
The Factory Must Grow.
it is crazy the trupen's preferred mainbus setup is exactly the same as mine. This video makes me want to start a fresh run of factorio but i dont have 1000 hours left in my life.
You have one month and a half left to live??
thats the problem with bus bases i think
its like building lego sets vs just playing with legos^^
not for me
@@Maric18 it's more fun when you keep the bus more specielised and build a lot of things off site, like only having science intermediates on it.
@@Ghorda9 HELL YEA I'm gona put granades, walls and steel bullets on my bus.
Whenever I play Factorio I REFUSE to build my base with anything but city/modular blocks just to give myself an excuse to use a hundred trains and instill the fear of god on anyone who even dares to try and cross a train track
Sounds like you need the supersonic train mod
Everyone should learn to use a Spidertron or a jet if it's modded.
I see a high dedication if you are starting with city block from the very beginning
@@raptorjesus5488 Oh I have it. If at the end of the playthrough my friends have not developed a fear of trains then I have failed as an engineer
@@Trupen Hey! Can't believe the big man himself responded
Thanks for the amazing content you put out. It has helped my friends a great deal
More than dedication it's because I suck at planning ahead and creating an organized factory so I opt to just build city blocks with the LTN system
Having just about finished the AA/Bob's seablock challenge, I can say that the main bus is great up until a mall at the end. Once you need a megabase to continue, trains take over but are supported by a very efficient bus-fed mall.
What can i say.
Thanks for your work.
Because of you i've stopped making spaghetti from my belts and started making BUS.
It;s just so easy to grow and making just tranches to main one.
I think it was from your material or short but i've learned about item reservation in cargo.
Keep going :)
so glad your back, love the effort in your videos!❤
Hey Trupen, just wanted to let you know that your videos totally aimed me to accept this game into my heart and once I finish the tutorial I'm buying the game.
So both thanks and a screw you from future me, since I'm probably gonna disappear from my friends and family in the time I'm playing this.
well thanks for the advice, and contrary to all of it, ive now been inspired to start a new playthrough and make a main bus where I put every single item in the game on it.
watched some other tutorials but yours is clearer and you put it in a way your explanations makes sense! great work
Your smelting beacons are aligned with the furnaces, making them less effective. Move them one to the left or the right.
Personally I prefer the priority splitter approach. If I don't have enough resources, I need to add resources.
Consider adding a part about resupplying the bus in the middle.
A reminder that priority splitters are better than belt balancers, as belts with no gaps use less UPS.
I don't think UPS are big problem for early game main bus
Best solution is having all belts saturated at all times, then they use the least UPS regardless :P
Well, if we're talking building out to a mega-base, I don't think this series is for you, but it's a good tip to keep in mind when going that route later.
i have a hard time believing that main bus is efficient enough for a base that tanks ups. or maybe i just never tried lol
@@TrupenEarly game bus becomes the problem at later stages, when you need to rebuild it from scratch or just move away from it and pretend it does not exists.
This is a certified Trupen classic
4:55 hell yeah brother!
I put splitters AFTER taking items off the belt, not before. This ensures there is always a full belt one side. Just personal preference
Trupen god damn your editing only ever improves. love the videos
Fantastic video as always, Trupen! Love me a bus :)
I really like 3 tile gaps between bus lanes because it’s easier to put down powerlines, roboports, and balancers
transport drones
Huh, that's actually a good tip! I'll try using that next time!
for me it makes the main bus a bit too big to move around, but if you put some lanes for car it can be a viable option
I may have miscommunicated somewhat, the 3 tile gap is between sets of 4-tile wide lanes. 4 blocks between every belt would be wild
thanks man, appreciate it.
I like to put four tiles of space between my lanes so that there's space for roboports and extra belt shenanigans. I do recommend putting gears on the bus but not adjacent to gear wheels since they're often used together and pulling from both sets of lanes can get messy very fast.
I think that's valid every so often but not 4 spaces between every 4 belts.
Pretty helpful, thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Just so you know, we are a team of 8 factorio players in Iran, We LOVE your videos and we learn a lot from you. keep up the good work my friend. @@Trupen
i remember in my 3rd or 4th save i decided to do a spiral main bus for some reason.
i still go back to that save just to look at it sometimes
Thank you, great video! Are you going to make a video about city blocks in the future?
Played twice without a main bus and didn't finish, first time I tried it I went all the way to the end.
Its really worth it honestly, it helps so much in making you build things simple by having all you need in one area constantly.
Edit: 6:07 ahhh now THAT is what I have been looking for, thanks Trupen! To be honest when I tried out space exploration mod for some reason I decided to put every single intermediate product onto this massive gigantic bus that had nearly every item in the game on it to craft with, only to realise you can't even shoot most of them with the cannons anyway and I realised what a large waste of time I had done as it was very unbalanced xD
Not really sure on the recent comments here but wanted to say thank you again for this video and showing me how to belt balance. If not for you, i'd have never beaten the game with rampant settings.
You can stage your bus for different "levels" of recepies. For example, raw stone used directly not very offten, so there is little sense to put it on the bus and stretch it to the point where you turn it into rails and concrete. You can always designate some empty space for those assemblers in the begining and wave some spaghetti back.
recipes, the word is weird
You use it for rails and nothing. Therefore, you can build it at your cement colony, and just ship it back. Cement use the same sort of stuff as rails after all, so if you have a cement factory somewhere, put it there.
For building the main bus, I HIGHLY suggest ALLOTING space for 8 lanes of the main resources (iron and copper, even if you START with only 4 lanes from the supply area. This enables you to UPGRADE your bus later... just make sure you keep track of which direction you've alloted for the expansion of the main resources. Alternatively, you can reserve space midway into the factory deesign (on either side of the bus) for INSERTION balancing. this TOPS up buses that maybe have fewer lanees devoted to a resource that get partially depleted earlier on in the bus, but you do not want to devote extra lanes for (for the entire length of the bus).
or you could keep the high throughput consuming items off the bus and just import it, like with with all circuits.
Or you could design the bus to a predefined target production goal, safe in the knowledge that will be wide enough.
I demand a video for Krastorio 2 ;-) Thx for your video. Liked and subbed
Another trupen upload, another good day ❤
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I literally was looking for this video 2 days ago and here it is
Tank you.
grejt tutorial, gut dżob!
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dzięki wielkie przyda się
i love the way you say "lube" i just adore it it sounds so cute
Ah that 5 second intro perfectly encapsulates both playing factorio and programming.
Now this, I do like. Just comprehensible information chewed up and ready to be consumed by my smooth brain.
this man is a genius
Amazing video
Thanks!
7:22 Trupen, come on, you don't have to put an output priority to the splitter sending the materials from the bus to the crafting area. That's just silly I don't know who taught you that. You only put output priorities on the splitters on the bus itself, and you put them AFTER the extraction splitter in the exact other order you put them in. If you do it right, the priority method is much better than the 4x4 balanced solution.
Assume 4 belts of a material, belt 1 is the one you always take away from, belt 4 is the one furthest away from that. After the normal splitter that moves material to the crafting area, put a splitter on belt 1 & 2 with output priority to 1, then a splitter on belt 2 & 3 with priority to 2 and lastly a splitter on belt 3&4 with priority to 3.
That way, belt 1 will always be filled to the max, no matter how far down the bus you go (unless you use up all 4 belts of material, of course, but that's an issue for both designs). Nothing like "the first crafting area gets all the material" nonesense.
I prefer not balancing the main bus because building an efficient factory is all about handling bottlenecks. As the first assembling areas provide things for the next ones, if you don't feed them to their max capacity, they become the bottleneck.
Givining them the max input possible ensures their output is saturated by what consumes it, i.e. back pressure.
If your bus is not capable of providing to the last assembling areas, then your bus is the bottleneck, and it's time to upgrade it.
Note that I haven't played in a while.
Yeah, the lower level assemblers are usually the most important ones. Locomotives, mining drills or power lines are usually produces at the start of the bus. If you have a shortage, you don't want your few plates to go to the blue circuits.
I don't place sulfur on the the bus, because it can be made where it is needed with just one or two plants and with just liquid inputs.
Gears on the bus have some merit, because they need less space than the iron place they are made of, but they only need iron to make and almost everything that needs gears also needs iron, so you can just place another iron belt instead.
As for liquids, I place water, petroleum, light oil and lubricant, since we have established 4 is a good number.
Water is used in many recipes and so is petroleum. Sulfuric acid can be made from water, petroleum and iron, so I don't put it on the bus. The only thing heavy oil is used for is lubricant, so I might as well put the lubricant on the bus. Light oil is used to make train fuel, rocket parts and is great for flamethrowers, so it goes on the bus as well.
Instructions unclear: placed 6 full blue belts of production 3 modules on the bus and now my iron and copper consumption has risen from items per minute to patches per second.
I'm sorry, but its a skill issue
I can't help you :/
I've personally abandoned the main bus concept, myself. It requires too much planning and forethought that wastes more of my time and energy playing the game than I actually spend on playing the game. It also tends to require a LOT of contiguous space that I can't always find for it, as well. I've started moving towards using trains as my primary resource delivery system, and then a sort of mini-bus for the shopping mall. With trains, I can put manufacturing wherever I want to or wherever there's space, and then trains can just bring the input resources in and ship the output resources out to wherever they're needed.
I want Trupen to be the dictator of my country
Economic growth would be unprecedent
Hello Trupen, I've recently started factorio and really enjoy your guides. Was wondering when the smelting video is coming out?! It's been 10 days! I've gone through the other beginner guide and was wondering how to make smelting/belt/efficiencies etc. Thank you!
The smelting video was supposed to be published this monday, but subtitles took way more than they usually take
Video should go public in less than an hour.
@@Trupen you were right. I watched it and I've already set up my the smelting etc. VERY nice tips with the building fast part :D
Thank you!
well this is handy
maybe my base wont be spagetti this time
Thank you! I changed my viewpoint 360 degrees.
Glad it helped!
You mean you went full circle, and ignored the advice?
@@DRY411S I think this comment might be relate to what was said in the video...
I have found it's important to just let players spaghetti... I launched my first rocket from a spaghetti base after playing for 350 hours (not all in the same file). Tbh I had a blast making that spaghetti base. But i did it, and doing that let me reach parts of the game i hadnt reached before which helped to give vision on how i could make the base expandable in certain ways, learn about resource flow control, and also understand the key points in the game when you need stuff. So before i let myself do the spaghetti base, i would get caught up trying to plan ahead and leave space for new research, but then I'd start a new file and spend the first 8 hours setting up like 4 iron, 4 and 2 steel furnaces and then building an enormous bus, and then never make any progress cos it'd be 8 hours and i still havent reached black science. But now i build and i know where I'll need stuff later. I know how many iron/copper/steel lanes i need and when I i need them, so now i have reverted to building in my usual main bus style but it's 100x faster cos i know where I will or won't need stuff later.
So just let players spaghetti... Sooner or later the spaghetti will hit a brick wall cos you need to pull more out of the factory but you're at your limit cos of bad planning. People need to experience that for themselves
Lord Trupen is back
My orevious couple runs ive tried to be super orgabized abd efficient.
I just started a run lately with the intention of making my base as dense and spaghettified as possible. I want to feel like a tech priest of mars -- i dont know how it works after a certain point, but the machine god demands i maintain and grow the monstrosity. Its super fun so far
There's a huge downside to having a main bus.
You spend a lot of time splitting and merging into the bus. And you always end up with a deficit or excess on the bus, both are a waste of resources and building fatigue.
Sometimes it's better to specialize in a certain output from raw(er) materials in outposts, without necessarily going into spaghetti.
And you start doing that when you have trains, which you can get to rather quickly in vanilla factorio so there's really no point in making a super fleshed out main bus until you've also research railroads.
And then, there will be many smaller main buses for the bigger outposts. Where MANY trains feed raw resources into the outpost and fewer trains take the very compressed outputs of those outposts and they all converge into another outpost that makes even more advanced items.
In summary, make smaller and more specialized buses in outposts design for mass production of much higher end items. Don't split off iron plates from the main bus to make gears and then putting them back on the bus. Instead take iron plates and make gears into engine units and then two thirds of those engine units electric engine units. The raw resources going into that outpost will be Iron Plates, Copper Plates and Lubricant. The output is Engine Units which you feed into your science outpost and Electric Engine Units which are fed into your Flying Robot Frame outpost.
And once you get construction robots, it's better to make iron plates and their direct descendants at the iron ore patch instead of feeding raw iron ore into a central smelter array.
But not before you get construction robots!
Then you can strip out the making of gears and steel at the engine unit outpost, which reduces the amount of stuff you have to transport by A LOT.
2 Iron plates becomes one iron gear, so that's a 2:1 reduction. 5 Iron plates becomes one steel plate so that's a 5:1 reduction.
Overall, you'll be shipping 1/6th the number of iron plates around.
In fact, i hate main buses with a passion as the amount of extra work you put into making one could just as well be spend rushing science for railroads and construction bots and then you can make nice outposts and also reduce the amount of stuff you need to transport by doing the most of the processing closer to ore fields.
Another downside to main buses is that your base tends to be needlessly MASSIVE. Which means you are setting up base defenses for a HUGE area just so you can have some nicely defined spacings between your production sectors around your main bus.
If you make outposts instead, you will make compact built to purpose production facilities and have a tight wall around that facility for protection. Your defenses become tighter and more efficient.
That fucking killed me when you said us Americans want to put guns and oil on the bus 😂 i loved the delivery of that line
Nothing will stop me from going all SPAHETTI for the first 100 hours of gameplay!
It tastes just gudder! Gotta love an organic base. But nice tutorial nevertheless :)
My friends insist that every space in our factory must be covered by roboports so after that playthrough I just put three spaces between the belts by instinct. Really helps though if you want to snake something through the belts temporarily
But a roboport is 4x4?
Tbh factorio was more fun before I learnt what a main bus was. Now every play through is some variant of a main bus and I have to force myself to spagettify it a little so keep it interesting. Or try rush to trains and go straight into a train heavy base
Tank you
main bus is definitely best for starting but I prefer more modular stuff later on
YEEEES I am not the only BUS person, I even have main and side bus
But don't forget. Spaghetti are tasty and nutritious, while busses are really bad for your health.
A very good video, except for one small mistake. Trupen forgot the ultimate bus method... the inserter bus that also uses inserters to split🥵.
We may be a small community, but like the illumin.. I mean like Reddit, WE CONTROL EVERYTHING from the shadows and everyone shall eventually kneel before us.
You can definitely notice some Italian vibe with four "t" in spagetttti 😂
Thanks for the help! I was thinking about replaying factorio, I loaded my old base and I was so overwhelmed by my spaghetti design lmao.
I'm going to start a new game, any advice for the beginning? :)
harvest ROCKS at the start :)
When your new world eventually gets overwhelming and you want to restart, don’t start a new world.
Instead you should shove everything into a bunch of steel boxes and “restart” from there so you have access to more technology items.
Change the focus or goal of your game. The goal is not to launch X amount of rockets. The goal is to build your own blueprint library that fits your playstyle and is optimized by you. Try no to copy blueprints from the web, just get some ideas, otherwise is like cheating. Really, try to make your own custom designs, after yoy have completed your own blueprint library, the feeling is just amazing.
@@americankid7782two months after you commented this but I definitely need to take this advice lol
Great... now im confused even more on what to do.
Now I want a video with all type of spaghetti, other than Carbonara and Bolognese, maybe an amatriciana or scoglio
The best design for OUR factory, for spreading peace in the world
yes.
Have you thought about trying to achieve the "Finisterra" achievement? It's "simple", technically the map is finite (although as big as Australia), so you have to get to the edge.
An estimate I have heard is that a train from the center of the map to the edge would take 4 hours to make the trip.
Sounds awful!
I personally prefer an approach I like to call micro-modules. 2x2 or 2x3 chunks with dedicated trains, which specializes in the production of one particular component.
I think it's better known as City Block.
IMHO red chips, blue chips & low density should have dedicated copper, and dedicated circuit assemblers. Using trains to balance the ore or plates. Plastic should also be made just in time, as one belt of coal can make 2 belts of plastic, saving space in the bus. If you build your crafting on one side of the bus, you can then build rail stations on the other side to bring in more plates directly where they are needed.
Yep. Green and red chips are such copper hogs, and blue chips are such green chip hogs that you can narrow the number of lanes needed for copper and green (and red) chips once you've just got past the blue chip area. No point in buffering all that plate and chips that the rest of the factory cannot consume in the amounts that are sat there doing nothing.
I am going to binge these tutorials to figure out how to play the game since I plan to get it soon.
Did you get it get?
Why balance a bus? If you need to put butter on 4 toasts but you only have enough for 1 toast, does it matter if all 4 toasts are equally 25% covered? No, you should just go get more butter.
I only recently got into Factorio so I'm not 100% sure how you would work with the 1/2 stone and 1/2 brick bus line, so if anyone can explain it to my smooth brain that'd be great love your videos Trupen!
Don't just don't. Take the pain of of a belt dedicated to each. It's an extremely small pain, and much easier to manage.
i have a question, do i build a balancer for the bus after every single time i use one of the belts? like if i use iron for green science, and use a splitter to take it out of the bus, do i build i balancer right after it every single time?
Yaaa baby what is what we were waiting for that what it was all about yoooo
finally main bus fish lane
I’m more of a beautiful spaghetti chef myself but I want to try and get more efficient so I’ll try this
I would not say bus is THE best. But it is good, especially if you do not know all the recipes yet. But whatever you do, do not put copper cable on a bus. That is just a crime.
Good and fun video!
When are we getting the ultimate train guide and when if ever will I get the ltn train guide also great video
I will publish ultimate train guide when new rails/trains came out
yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee@@Trupen
спасибо
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Hmm, a bus.
Naw I'm gonna keep doing spagetrains.
I do kinda use busses early but typically 1 or 2 lanes iron 1 lane copper and 1 lane steel. In my dangOREus playthrough I'm adding stone coal and bricks making coal and steel on the same belt, then bricks and stone on the same belt.
Trupen? More like trooper!
:)
*I'm doing my part!*
Please make a video for train city blocks
thx bcus i am kinda new and always when i say to myself i can buit main bus! after 2sec i say idk what am i doin
THAAANKS for new video! Finally kurwa mać
:)
@@Trupen : )
i really really really want to see a base built around a diagonal bus.....
Thanks for this, my SEK2248K5Dim run was starting to get a bit messy
im 60 hours into my first playthru and ive been using 1 belt for iron this entire time, i had to demolish like half my base to upgrade my main bus lol
I recommend to build also a road along the main bus. With a road you may use a car to move around fast. But it's necessary to build walls on both sides of the road in order to avoid damaging stuff with your car.
I agree, it's very useful to have roads when your main bus starts getting big
It's a great option to add walls; I wish I did it before I crashed into steel chest full of accumulators while my base was under maintenance so I was left almost without drones xD
I honestly miss the days I didn't know about main bus. Now I can't spaghetti anymore.
bus = more efficient, spaghetti belts = art form. you know, im somewhat of an artist engineer so i use main bus and crafting area becomes spaghetti
spaghetti for life 💯🦍
when i watched i deconstructed my factory adn started over, also it was invaded by biters
Are you using 4K textures mod?
Next one about train-cityblocks
next one about oil :usa:
@@Trupen good idea
Carbonara ❤
С каждой новой игрой моя шина всё больше, но по итогу надо переделывать )
but there is something magical about spaghetti factory mister Trupen, wouldn't you agree? :D
personally I'm a big fan of spaghetti, but you know some people like main bus
I approve of guns and oil on the main bus!