Yamaha MT-10 SP Review MC Commute
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Motorcyclist Magazine test rides Yamaha's 2023 MT-10 SP ($17,199) naked bike in this review.
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I'm not buying any motorcycle until I've seen Adam review it.
Exactly how else will I know how acronyms/Initials/Letters it comes with or how much bold new graphics is included
A lot of bikes your missing out on but more for me 😌
YES and Michael Gilbert is very good also.
@@NudaMan how many motorcycles did you buy this year?
@@Fee.1que NÃO VOU TE LIGAR PRA VOCÊ
Love your energy and knowledge Adam!!! That bike is a spaceship. Ride safe out there 😉
So I'm thinking Adam really likes this bike. Anyone else get get the same idea? Nice honest review Adam!
I love my MT10SP 2023 ❤
same here!
@@RutgerSmetsI just bought a 2024 2 days ago my god what beast!
me too! love mine.
Great review, enthusiasm and knowledge from my favourite vlogger stateside. All the best from the UK. Ride safe!
Great review Adam, I always enjoy your videos. I just bought the same bike 2 weeks ago. It is nothing short of amazing.
Picked up mine three days ago and OH MY GOD🤩😍🥰
Sweet!
I'm planning on getting one next week..
Is it out of control and comfortable at the same time?
@@blindspot1987Do you mean like savage and comfy at the same time? Definatly. There`s a mode for every occation and bumpy twisty backroads is where it shines. And riding that wave of torque out of corners is just WOW. I took a BMW M1000R out for a test ride before getting the MT, it`s a great bike but it doesn`t have a crossplane engine. If the BMW is a scalpel the MT-10 is a meat cleaver. They both get the job done but the meat cleaver is so much more fun. You won`t regret getting one
@@EVILSPAWN1003 kind of what I was hoping to hear! I’m excited I’ve got a bunch of bikes that I’d like to rotate and as I may have previously mentioned, I recently bought a triumph speed Triple. Don’t give me wrong. Great bike but not too comfortable so I’m looking forward to a nice addition.
Always love your videos Adam. Great thorough review. Also that canyon shot at the end was nice. I miss the roads in the Texas hill country. Obviously they don't compare but now I live in Fl. Yeah.
Excellent review and I own one! The best review of at least 20 I've watched of the MT-10SP
Great detailed review Adam!
Great review as always, Hi from the UK 😊👍
Awesome review of an awesome bike. I love listening to Adam talk about bikes. I tried to trade my FJ-09 in on one a few years ago and the saleman never responded to my request. I bought another brand's super naked and I'm happy. I think I'd have liked everything about the MT-10 but the looks.
Wow 😍 I think I found my new dream bike! The latest rendition of the MT-09 SP held that spot until I heard that cp4…amazing. Nice review as always, Adam!! 👋
I just got one, so I’m still riding it fairly gently. The engine sound is AMAZING, and I love the suspension already. My only complaint so far is that first gear seems pretty tall. I cruise through some pretty small towns (Hershey PA) at 30-35 mph, and that’s first gear on this bike with factory sprockets (2024).
Adam Waheed will always be the best at these reviews.
Really . He rides like a grandma
I really love your reviews. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great review, just got one and love the bike, still not the pretty Italian supermodel but works better on streets than others and has the best engine!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Adam. I'm a little surprised that you thought the foot pegs were a touch high. I think that's countered out by a relatively high-ish seat to make it more comfortable. I'm thinking the MT-10 base will be my next bike. The electronic suspension isn't worth it to me (just my opinion of course). Any way, thank you again for your thoughts on this bike!
Got the MT-10 yet? :D
I think the footpegs on most superbike-derived street fighters are "high" compared to their smaller cc counterparts - i.e., the seating position on the MT-10 is a bit more sporty and aggressive than on the MT-09/07. Same with the GSX-S1000 vs the GSX-8S. I think the logic is that more people are going to take the liter bikes to the twisties and track and want a bit more weight over the front wheel, meanwhile the smaller cc bikes are more likely to be used as pure or mostly urban bikes, so comfort takes priority. In my opinion high pegs aren't uncomfortable, the most important thing is the tall and wide bar to avoid too much forward torso lean!
Those gloves are great summer gloves. Own a pair myself. Just need an MT-10 to go along with them
What gloves are they?......I tried on a pair of rev it and they were most comfortable glove I've ever put on my hands, should have bought them right then
Nice review Adam
I love you Adam!!!
The only thing I wish about the MT 10 was it had a little slimmer gas tank on it. I’ve always found their tanks to be a bit wide, and it gives the bike more of a “cruiser” feel.
What's the 26,600 mile valve clearance inspection and adjustment like for a do-it-yourselfer?
More reviewers need to do a little section on maintenance demands. Especially in comparison tests.
Great review
Thing I've found owning mine since it's release in Australia.
As a tall rider, the wind buffeting sucks and the touring screen made it worse.
I find the seat hard and angles forward too much, apparently the comfort seats fixes this.
The UI / controls for the display are fiddly.
It's far too quiet even with the induction venting.
The Ohlins suspension is awesome though.
Awesome, Mark... great points that Adam left out. Wind buffeting/noise is a huge problem for anyone who does more than light day-tripping. My FJR1300 had terrible wind roar, 'til I fixed it.
I looked at all of the super/hyper nakeds and ended up getting a good deal on a 23 Z H2 SE for almost the same MSRP as the MT-10. Combined with low financing offer from Kawa sealed the deal. MT-10 still a very good naked.
I have a 2020 z900 and am looking hard at the ZH2. What do you think about the bike so far? How’s the gas mileage? I demoed the 1000sx while good im not convinced.
I wish lots more bikes had adjustable speed limiters. It's a great feature. Especially with all the money grubbing law enforcement in Australia.
the amount of stops sign you guys deal with is insane.
a great in depth, detailed review, my question is while riding those twisting bends, near the end of your review, with hammering the Motorcycle in first and second gear, did you experience any over heating issues? did you see what temperatures the engine was running at? was you engine fan coming on often? Only we had a guy join us on his MT10, who said he never got his MT10 out of first and second gear, 2021 model and was complaining of his bike overheating! due to us riding too slow! his fan was coming on often? running temperatures of 111c! according to him!
Awesome bike! All that performance with Yamaha reliability! Easy to give up a few horsepower against the Italians. Spending time riding rather than visiting the shop is what it's all about. Adam, was that the road to Palomar? Just did 54-94 from SD-Campo today.
Amazing all the bikes that are made that I have NEVER seen at a dealership.
They should have ponied up for the magnesium wheels on the SP. The MT-10 is indeed Boss. I like the styling of the old MT-10 better, but this one still looks cool.
Love the R1/MT10 motor, PLEASE Yamaha, offer it in a Tracer 10!
Like what you did with your hair, LOL great review I bought one partly based on your review
I'd probably just get the base model but frankly my 2020 z900 is already more than enough bike for me!!!
I went with the base, had my suspension set to my liking and couldn't be happier.
THE ONLY QUESTION: Is that stupid Transformers decal UNDER the clearcoat or OVER?
Haven't watched in a while... my man switched out weed for some Redbull. Loving the new energy, haha
My dream bike. Shame it’s not sold in Brazil. I own a Tracer and would love to be able to upgrade to this.
Side view mirrors suck, see my shoulders well, that’s it. Nice review, I can tell you like riding it.
Motorcycles kick ass.
Excellent video, what road did you say you're riding???😁
Thinking about MT10 SP second bike to go with my R6. Perfect bike it seems.
You can get a GREAT old gen for cheap! I picked up a '18 late last summer with 1kmi on it for $9600. 3/4 yoshi's decat system and a 2wdw flash and you've got yourself a machine that will leave that restricted $17k so in the dust.
I like the neighborhood u r riding in
I was looking into the mt10 but the mileage killed it for me. Going barely 100 miles and already looking for a station is wild. Settled on a tracer 9 gt which can go almost twice that distance. Still plenty of power.
but you comparing two complete different bike tho.
Yea I know what you mean I was looking into the 458 Italia but the mileage killed it for me so I Got a BMW X5 M 😂😂😂😑
@@zhantheman translation: I own a Tracer 900 & I never had any real inclination to buy an MT10 but here’s one thing the tracer does “better” anyway so afaic my bike is better
@@Fee.1 Tracer 9 gt and yes I did look into the mt10 since it's in the same price category. Mpg was only one factor that pushed me into the direction of a sport tourer.
MPG 😅🤣😂 who cares it is a toy.
The CP4 engine that is used in the Yamaha MT-10 today does in fact have a lineage that starts at the original crossplane crank bigbang r1 motor. However it's quite the far stretch to say that it is actually the same exact motor, but built with different valves constructed of steel as opposed to titanium. The truth in all reality, is that the motor can indeed be traced back to the very first crossplane crankshaft bigbang r1 engine and it's "humble" beginnings. And while it has not completely been fully redesigned ever. Instead,, the engineer's at Yamaha have continued to improve the engine yearly whilst listening to their customer base. as apposed to starting fresh from scratch
The talk is about steel connecting rods. Titanium valves have been in the game for a looooong time. But thanks...
Cool review as always ❤ (and more enjoyable to set the speed to x1.25 as always 😊)
Why do you feel the need to many that speed Comment every time?
If a round headlight conversation was possible, I'd have one.
Aren't the front signals designed to breakaway in case of a drop like on the 07? If that's the case it's just a matter of locking the clip in properly from the back. You have to work from both sides of the mount. Other than that, you may have convinced me to get a 10 SP.
I love my R1 ❤
It's so quiet. First thing I'd do is put a full exhaust system on it and let that cross plane sing.
suspension DAMPS not dampens ...unless it makes uou wet your pants maybe? Or it quirts suspension fluid all over you then it might be "dampening" something just saying a pet peeve of mine
Shame about the look, I prefer the older 'transformer' look. Looks a bit too tame for what it is now.
The MT10s have always been severly aestethically impaired. It's a shame really
I think the reason the brakes could be more of an issue on the R1 is simply because the R1 is always going to be going faster... more power while lighter and with WAY better aero. Having owned two and three of each and ridden both models on track, the R1 is working the brakes harder, especially when there is a substantial straight and it may see 160 MPH or more. It is hard to even enjoy a naked above about 130 MPH due to the wind blast. Also, moving to a more upright position on the naked when slowing down from speed should provide a more substantial "parachute effect", if that is desired.
You spoke about getting more hp out of it...i thought these had 160+hp...how do you achieve more hp/torque gains? I also heard these mt10s get like 25 mpg...looking into one after selling my 2013 fz1
i heard fuel consumtion crossplane is way more unefficient than 4 or 3 cyl inline , is that true ?
Yes, owners are getting 35-40 mpg just babying the bike, lower if you ride aggressively
for informational purposes. You do not need to change in the settings manu in minute 30. You should be able to change the settings on the fly within the same mode with the switches on the left hand.
Next Christmas I'm gonna send you a comb.
Such a tough choice now between the SP and the new Speed Triple, still surprised the MT isn't keyless yet. Anyone ridden both the '22 SP and the '22 1200RS Triple?
Yeah I have. MT10 sp has better electronics and the active suspension is boss on the road while fixed mode is also good on track. The RS has better brakes and more lean angle but the fact that you can’t separate wheelie control from tc killed it for me.
I had a current gen MT10 and was a bit let down by the power, particularly in the lower gears. Seems like some electronic F'ery going one. It felt noticeably less powerful in the lower gears than my previous gen MT10. And it is a pretty large/wide and heavy motorcycle. Now I am riding a current gen XSR900. It also feels like there is a lot of computer restriction taking place in the lower gears. But out on the roads when letting her eat on twisty roads, I am thinking the lighter and more nimble (but still very stable) XSR 900 is a better experience. That said, I miss the sound note of the CP4, though since Euro5, the sound experience (and power delivery in lower gears) is not even close to as good as pre-euro5.
I dont know if i should get an mt 09 sp or an mt 10 sp ... damn its hard to chose
Bang for Buck in the Super Naked Class
What would you say the best bike for a good price would be for someone moving up from a sv650 would be from the Middle weight class ?
10k Triumph Speed Triple 765R (120hp) the new gen
12k Triumph Speed Triple 765RS (130hp) the new gen in yellow
12k Aprilia RS 660 in Apex Black (100hp)
12k Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory (95 to 100hp depending on model)
12k Kawasaki Z900 (125hp) nice linear inline 4 sound
12k MT-09SP (119hp) with 45liter top case
10k MT-09 (119hp) the new gen not old gen
12k XSR900 (119hp) the new gen not old gen (the MT-09 in retrolook)
12k Z900RS (retro style 110hp but higher torque down low than the Z900)
Try to bikes before buying (so you can see which one you like best).
Personally in 2023 the new yellow Speed Triple 765RS is stunningly beautiful, light and plenty enough power for regular streets (and track day possible).
How about a comparison test between this bike the Suzuki GSX-S-1000GT?
Has the engine changed from the previous model ?
i get mine .. nest week.. yyippieeee
Have any insite to the rumor the mt10 is being discontinued after 2024 and replaced by a 3cyl engine for a R9?
I was looking at this bike but the Kawasaki ZH2 SE is still a better buy. Same price and features except about 30 to 40 horses more. Amazing bike though.
Hey certain Japanese segments of the old rumor mill is fairly adamant the NEXT gen R1 engine will be a TRIPLE! Not only that but a TURBO charged triple! At first blush adding a turbo seems a needless addition of weight and bulk BUT if done to a TRIPLE? Pretty sure the weight/bulk savings of one less cylinder/head/piston/crank segment/pipe/throttle body etc should more than make up for it! Now just plug in the fact that an 890 CP3 is churning 117hp without any titanium bits that could easily up that to 170 THEN add 110cc which has to be good for another 15? hp at least? and we are at 185 yes as expected less than an RR type inline 4 but NOW add a turbo charger! And lets be conservative as we want smoooth boost and lets just go with plus 40% (even though it COULD be 65+%) 40% of our 185 is SEVENTY FOUR HP! IS 260hp! Now drop it another 10% for euro whatever and to make it sane and it is STILL way WAY over 200hp and the most powerful non supercharged sportbike in existence! And I believe still could weigh less than ANY production 1k sportbike today! Now that will be in the 400 pounds wet R1 but the 2024 0r25 MT10 wont have the titanium bits so will likely be only 200hp but WAY more powerful than current MT10 which I figure there will be a fire sale to purge that obsolete inventory
Have to update lift control to allow for gentle drop downs to preserve fork seals because THAT bike is going to spend an awful lot of time on one wheel with many splash downs on the forks after each loftmg
Missing the list of gear used🙂
Imagine how cool it would be if Yamaha made a naked version of the MT10.
I had a 2021 mt10 and now have a 2023 R1. I want a sp though.
I like the MT10 but wish Yamaha would make a better version with the R! engine and a small faring
Hey as for the suppsed adjustability on the Tracer9gt? I own one and I can tell you it is mostly gimmick. Like the two position handlebar option you are talking maybe 10mm a bit over an 1/8" is what it appeared to be when I rotated my risers 180 to move them forward ...it was a pain getting to the nuts and Ima say it was not even worth the trouble. Likewise the foot pegs have TWO mounting positions again 10mm which is hardly anything ....I guess if you were barely scraping the feelers it would make a difference i went ahead and moved mine up they feel the same The seat does lower about an inch so at least that is the only really significant adjusment which I chose the lower simply to lower my mass and because the seat rocks on the upper postion (poor engineering) Im just saying I dont think MT10 owners are missing out on adjustability compared to the Tracer like he suggested. If footpegs were a real issue I'm sure there are complete aftermarket rearsets that ARE adjustable...(Ive seen em on other models) and of course one can always change the bars pretty cheaply as well as the risers
Adam gets his haircuts from the GTA barber
I'm absolutely divided.. Should I get the MT 09 sp or MT 10 sp?! Yamaha has my heart that's for sure
I prefer the CP3 engine slightly over the CP4, plus the MT-09 is about 40-50 lbs lighter, and quite a bit less expensive too. Both are great bikes, but I went with the MT-09.
MT10 sp if cash isn't a problem for you. 25% less gas mileage for MT10. Also if you live near a major 4-lane highway system or interstate freeway then definitely MT10...go for it.
The main man 👍👍👍👍👍
The 2009 R1 engine is different from the current R1 engine. They just both happen to be plain in line fours.
I like it, but I'd rather get a Tuono or super duke.
When I lived in Switzerland, there were speed cameras everywhere snd they will ticket you at 3kph (1.86 mph) above the speed limit. Ridiculous
Same in Australia
@@LTLT900 Terrible. More reason to ride ADV!
@@ryanmalone2681100% agree with you on that.
How would you compare this to an 890 duke r?
The 890 may have 20ish less hp but it weights 100lbs less. That being said the mt10 can get to 11.5krpms while the duke falls short of 10k.
More like 40hp less…
@@yenchilai86
Chris Moore tuned it to 150 whp which is plenty on the road. And despite its 210+ kgs wet weight, it feels quite flickable. Also, the S22 rubber do the sporty nature of the bike justice 😎🏁🏁
@@SirMountainpass There is never enough HP and torque regardless of where you ride it. Just get a 1290 SDR and be done with it.
@@Lex-Rex
Congrats on the 1290 SDR! However, in the 0-200 Km/h sprint, both the SDR and MT10 clock 8.0 secs.
In the end, it is a matter of personal preference 😉🏁
@@Lex-Rex SDR varients are definitly the king of hoolaginsims. But at 20ish grand, the MT10 is at 18ish and the Duke R is 13k. there is deminishing returns on hp on back roads.
Troy said he found the suspension to be constantly playing catch up in the canyons. I would assume during aggressive riding. He basically said deciding to spend $3000 more is up to you.
Who?
@@Fee.1 troy siahaan.
Omg master torque 10 by Yamaha how nice is this rich man toy
I'm buying a -22 in 3 days. Exited.
A great bike but a mere year warranty is a little disappointing. Also, I expect the Oriental manufacturers may well soon turn out full fat engine nakeds, to directly compete with BMW's new supernaked offering.
SP version but no brembo? Come on Yamaha
What is "LED Halogen bulb:?? I assumed halogen is an incandescennt genre or tech and LED is totally seperated new tech? No? Really surprised me you used both terms together like it is one thing??? I also assume the turn signal stalk issue is the identical signals Yamaha is putting on other motorcycles too. Once reinserted RIGHT after coming loose they stay quite well unless really knocked....I understand the purpose as it is really hard to brek these signals compared to so many others it is just the cost of that feature is that when they DO get knocked loose it is hard to really get them back installed RIGHT....it is easy to stick em back in not right where they might stay for a few days but WILL eventually fall loose again so the trick is to take the time and massage the signals all the was around and bck into their fully secure spot again ....its funny on a yamaha showroom you might see several signals dangling or cockeyed lol ....I actually fixed a couple the last visit to a showroom just cause it annoyed me so much the sales people ignored it ....my guess is children not watched by parent? Or maybe lot boys or custodians working around the bikes knock them loose? Mine never come out on my Tracer 9 gt but I am careful to not knock into em!
Great bike but it just looks like it’s been slid down the road and put back together with salvaged parts off different bikes. Looks only a mother could love.
So MT10 or Tmax 560? Age question :DX
This or a Tuono??
That small tft cmon Yamaha it’s not iPhone 6 days!
You wanna watch a movie on it or what? Look at the road instead.
Those of us who can afford this bike would benefit from a larger font on all the data.
Analog tach and speedo is still best, dunno why all oems keep pushing these displays
Real nice, but for that price your close to Super Duke 1290R territory.
"OHLEEEENS"
1.5x speed for those that are frustrated
Needs blacked out Ohins...
I love power wheelying my2017 MT10...too much gimmicks on later models.
heated grips? This old bike is almost 20K out the door so it needs some extras. Just a GOOD guess Id say but my money is on this being the LAST year for the current gen R1 and since the M10 IS a dumbed down R1 then this may be it for this gen MT10 also. What happens when a model is cancelled? Well the Tracer 9gt was canceled and the price has plumeted $2k! so this could easily get hit like that also shortly after EICMA here in a few months....therefore I am afraid to buy this bike as great as it is. There are dumb rumors the 2024 R1 will be Turbo charged but I dont see that happening unless it is two spin off models for bragging rights alongside of normally asperated new gen R1 and MT10 ....or hey Yamaha COULD leave the MT10 as is one more year to eat up parts inventory like they did with 2021 XSR900 the only cp3 powered bike that didnt get all the new stuff the Tracer 9 and MT09 did but then it finally got it all in 2022 so who knows a new gen MT10 might not be till 2025 year model
Check this one too.
"YAMAHA MT10 RAW SOUND AKRAPOVIC FULL SYSTEM"
I think this is it for motorcycles lol
MT10 = JAILBAIT!😮