2023 Yamaha MT10 | V4 Beater??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 เม.ย. 2023
- I have not ridden the Yamaha MT10 since 2016 when it was released, last year Yamaha overhauled the bike and added many new features but the question is... Is it any good??
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Nice to see those girls helping you out in the garage, that bike sure is a hooligan machine
…just stunning work, John. I genuinely think your channel is the benchmark now. Really shows the effort you’ve put into it. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks buddy really appreciated 👍
This channel is really amazing. And the youtube motorcycle market is extremely competitive these days. Love your personality mate. Cheers from Norway.
Recently found your channel like the tone and humour, nice reviews. Really like this MT10 been watching loads of bike reviews but keep coming back to MT10. Engine sounds lovely.
That garage build definitely came with a few extras 🤣 Bought my MT10 early in 2016, still got it because its the most fun and reliable bike I've ever owned.
As an owner of the old model, I'm duty bound to say the new styling isn't so great. My bike was under £10K new, a proper bargain back then. Don't understand why the new model didn't have a bigger fuel tank?
Just a shame you can't publish on TH-cam what this bike does best.
I've really enjoyed having this bike for the last couple of weeks! So much so I've even been checking ebay prices! Can see why you love it 👍
@@LambChopRides Happy bidding
I agree on the styling. I had the gray 2017 and loved the looks and color combo. I'm wondering if the front brake change and electronics are worth the money difference over a low mileage used FZ/MT. I sold mine for a GSX-S1000GT.
@@Stclairm1 the front brake on the old model is helped with a change of pads. I don't personally use the limited electronics on the old model leaving it in minimum traction control and you don't need to turn anything off for wheelies! I don't see enough to warrant a change.
Old mt10 is best bang for buck for shure, new style is so so not so
Brilliant chops I have the 2019 and love it . Great video
Brilliant reviews Chopsie, your channel keeps getting better and I love your reviews. Keep up the great work, it's really appreciated 👍
Thanks Michael 👍
Best bike channel. Perfect blend of riding chops, presentation and humor.
Thanks Steven 👍
I just picked up a 2023 MT-10 here in the US. Simple decat and slip-on and ECU flash and you are cracking 150hp at the rear wheel and sounds as good as my Tuono V4 1100rr did. The CP4 will go down as one of the best motorcycle engines ever made. It's that good. The R1 is a blistering race bike with it, and the MT-10 is a brilliant naked brute of a bike...
I will be upgrading the shock and fork internals, but my mods are coming along nicely and its one of the best bikes I have ever owned, and that is a long list... 34 bikes long for me, personally. This one is in the top 3 with the latest gen Tuuno V4, and the Street Triple RS 765. An honorable mention would be the Ducati 1198 Superbike, just for being a mentalist with no rider aids that scared the crap out of everyone that rode it. haha
I picked up the MT-10 SP 2 weeks ago and its absolute insanity. You should definitely try it out! I love you videos! Keep up the awesome content :)
I'm buying one tomorrow. Excited.
@@TH-cam_Globetrotter You will not regret it!!
Brilliant review as always keep them coming
Great intro Chops. Very amusing. You are now clearly the pimp daddy of TH-cam bike vloggers. As for the bike, I've always liked the MT10 but struggled with the looks. However I think this one, while not pretty, is the best yet. Although maybe that's not saying much but either way I could live with it. As with the S1000R, GSXS1000, & CB1000R, I like that it"s got very good but not insane 200bhp power. It's still no doubt ridiculously quick but just seems a little more realistic & manageable to me.
I just love your channel, the beginning I thought was cracking ,Mavis is definitely not going to be happy. Cracking review review by the way look forward to the comparison test.👍
Hehe thanks matey 😁👍
Superb review Chopsy.
Great to see you giving it some beans and getting the benefit of that engine. Think the laughs say it all.👍👍😁
Completely agree with you, tested this last year. I also don't trust myself with this for everyday riding. It wants to go fast this thing :)
Brilliant start John...😊
I’ve had an MT10 since 2018, I’ve bought and sold other bikes around it but it’s still here. They are actually an easy bike to ride sedately. I can’t see myself selling it, if anything I’d buy a new one and have both.
Yet another honest and very informative bike review John, my only complaint was I got slightly sidetracked for the first couple minutes lol 😂 spot on mate 👍
Haha sorry 😁👍
Superb video. I also like the bit about the bike 😊 .. possibly the best type of Transformer there has ever been. Can't argue with that electronics suite. For the money, far better than anything from Italy for sure.
Really like the new addition to the garage Chopsy 😂 also love the sound of the MT10 👍
brilliant review of the Yamaha Mt10 i have bought myself a Mt10 2023 ex demo
Really happy to see the channel growing so fast, and looking forward to lots of yamaha reviews from you in future, I thought you just didnt like them! Can you replace the stripper with bonzi buddy for one video ? that would be hilarious
Another cracking review. Always love your enthusiasm and hooligan attitude! Not ridden for a while after a big knee op but hopefully picking up my new bike soon. Your vids always cheer me up! Thanks Chopsy.
Nice collection of beautiful machines you have, near to that pole
The intro made me laugh, im sure the missenden flyer will be jealous of your new assistants. That bike would get me into trouble. Thanks for making my day a brighter one.
Totally agree with your comment about similarities between v4 and this, ive got an MT10 and absolutely love it, and noticed the similarities when i test rode the v4 diavel, unfortunately i was 25 grand short of the 25 grand asking price for the diavel but I just had to test it. One word describes this bike though, weapon.
Love your garage Chops....plenty of hot rides there to keep you busy......if you know what I mean....😉😉 Lol.
Great review.....thats my Sunday morning viewing sorted 👍
Haha thanks Dean 😊
I just might have to test ride a new one and part in my 2016. Front brake just Brembo sintered pads makes a huge difference. I ride two up with the wife all the time and she loves the bike as much as me, never complains about anything. Thanks for doing the vid. MT10 is an awesome bike, best I've ridden.
Does your wife find it comfortable I'm thinking of buying one for 2 up with my partner as well
@@TrulyUniqueOne Yes she does although at 74 we have to limit distance before a break more often. We bought a Comfort seat from Yamaha just after we bought the bike, a real benefit. We also use an Oxford belt which I wear, it has handles for her to hold on. Sounds cissy but it enables me to wind on without the fear of catching her by surprise. It is such a fun bike we love the freedom it brings. It can be ridden steady or push on if you feel like it. So comfort ways, we only have noticed it as we get older that our personal "upholstery" is getting thinner, would be a problem on any bike for us. The MT10 is an easy bike to ride, try it and you will see what I mean.
i now have one sat in my garage...happy days:-)
That was brilliant👍🏻
I remember your original review. You made some comments about school children noticing you (and the bike), then quickly realized what you said. Good times 😳. Nice review, may get another one someday. Cheers. 👍🤪🇨🇦
Haha wow must be something about this bike! 🤣👍
Hello, long time no see ;). I test rode a 2022 SDR today and was thinking I should give the MT10 a go so this came out at just the right time. Hope you're well!
Great video, thanks! What you said around the 13.00 mark is exactly why I didn't buy one, I do love my wheelies and the MT10 is one of the best bikes I have ridden for them. Within 5 miles of my test ride I was hoiking up fat 100mph+ wheelies, top fun but not if you get caught! The really amazing thing about modern bikes like the MT10 is how user friendly they are, they are basically as bonkers as you want them to be. Were any of the girls Mrs Chops, or possible future Mrs? 😀
Oh boy.. The intro was .. finger licking good.
Hope the bike was the same :).
A happy Sunday morning - thanks Chopsy 👍 I think I could live with that bike, the styling is a bit 'individual'.....but very nice. So kind of you to give those poor, young ladies somewhere to practice 😂
I'm all heart 😁👍
Good first look video Lamb Chop
Love your Vids LCR! I would love to test ride this bike but our local dealer is not keen to it.
I miss my MT-10 and now know the ‘23 has full IMU and electronic package of the R1 I’m in full withdrawal!!! OH THE SOUND!!! I’m telling ya Lambchop, I put Termignoni De-cat pipe replacing the cat and the sound sounds legitimately Moto-GP. It’s insanely beautiful to the ears. I remember watching you test the the MT10 when it first came out and you wheelie the entire video lol helped me decide to buy one lol.
"K1600..afternoon sir....miserable" 😂. The MT10 is punching with the big boys on price : performance ratio, fab vid as always Chopsie.
Looks like an amazing bit of kit ! I get the 'wooden feel' about the brakes. I bought Goodridge hoses on my previous purchases. I've owned a Fazer 600 and more recently 1000 (also had an R1) I think Yamaha get it spot on with the 4 cylinder machines they produce. Excellent work, good review ! I look forward to the group review ! I'm a Suzuki man at heart (First bike AP50) but I've had brilliant bikes from Honda and Yamaha ! Never got into Kawasaki though. Thanks for sharing 👍
You have clearly missed out on some all time classic bikes then by not owning some Kwaks. I have owned many bikes [since the 70's] from all the Jap manufactures and I can tell you Kawasaki have produced some of the very best. Z1/900, GPZ's, GPZ900R, ZXR 750's etc.
My first bike was a 1978 Suzuki AP50 red/maroon color when I was 16 back in 1978.
Have you still got the Fazer 1000?
@@inked-96 sold it back to the guy I bought it off ! He reluctantly sold it a few months back
@@bunnydaduk what you riding now?
Thank you.
Looks good. 👍
Awesome video Chops , lots of damp patches. Hopefully none on the bike . Going to have to take one for a spin to see what this cross plane crank is about. I love straight fours maybe this is the next generation ?. Look forward to the comparison video. Thanks again for the ride .
Thanks Alan 👍
The crossplane Yamaha has been around for almost 15 years
@@luisdetomaso867 agreed but I still haven’t tried one ☝️, hope that’s OK with you.
Love the intro absolute quality the mt10 isn't bad either 😂😂
Personally I am not happy choosing this over the V4. I would definitely prefer to have both 😅
Haha 😁 👍
Yes yes I think that's the right way to go...
I am happy to choose the MT-10 instead of the two Italian V4s with worse reliability and expensive insurance/services (the cost of the big service on Ducati V4 was double the price of the MT-10 big service). However I think Yamaha screwed up the looks on this new MT-10 🤮.
It was never a beautiful bike but at least the 2016 - 2021 model looked brutal. Are the design people over at Yamaha having a competition on who can design the worst looking bike or what is happening ? 🤯
@@mathias6423 i miss the dual headlight look the fz1/mt10 used to have. So iconic and highly visible
@@panrak123 You and me both, and apparently many others. I have yet to hear anyone that thinks the new bike looks better than the old one :P
The old look matched the sound and engine character of the bike much better. I was hoping the new look would grow on me like it has with other bikes that had a look I first was not sure about. But in the new MT-10s case it never did, still ugly after one year :(
Great review as per usual Chopsy .👍 look forward to the wee group test with you and Greg and the nakeds .😮 sounds like a badly named punk group from the 80s 😮 😁
The brakes aren't too bad on my 23 SP. It has the braided lines but I think i'll still go for different pads when the time comes. Oh and the suspension is next level with the Ohlins. I've never ridden a bike that lets you take the piss so much! Great work with vids mate and the garage looks brilliant. 👍️
Yes, go for a brake pad upgrade and your are ready for the mountain passes and the occasional track day😃🏁🏁
Did this to my 2020 MT09 SP (incl. the upgrade to braided brake lines) - works like a treat.
@@SirMountainpass yeah I'll get some brembo sintered pads on her. I'm lucky that on the new 10sp's it already comes with braided hoses this year 😁
Love the bit of banta, think you could of used better music with the ladies preforming,,😊
Great review,
That's my gripe, too many manufacturers are cutting back on costs and keep chucking out boring two cylinder engines 😢,
The flashing light is a settable shift light. If it's coming on at 6k then it's still set in running in mode. Mine's set at 10k now. It's easy to change it in the menus.
Lovely video mate - I need to get one of these in to test. I even like the looks... argh
I was never a fan before Tim, but since having this it's really grown on me! It's also brilliant for taller and larger riders. It's like a Tuono which fits me! 😍
Thanks John, very naughty that. Now that they're putting average speed cameras in around Loomies and the Meon valley area, it s a right bore for a bike like the MT10.
One of the best openings of a vid I’ve ever seen 😂
Haha thanks 😁👍
Very good! I need to see a test on the r-1 please
Great vid as usual! When you going to get out on the new street rs waiting for that video 👀
Yes not until end of May though 👍
Great opening Benny Hills Angels are Back 😁 How far can you go on a Full Tank on the MT10 ? Some say 90 miles
Others 140
Love the mt10. Had one briefly and spent most of the time trying to behave myself.. 😅 Great bike that left me with a big grin most of the time . The mode thing is a bit silly and quite annoying.
Mrs Chops looking good on that pole Chops! 😂😂
With a different front, I would have seriously considered this bike as my next acquisition
The last bike was an absolute beast but it got a bad rep with the throttle and brakes but honestly a cheap ECU flash for £150 and some Brembo pads and the last bike was sorted for about £200
100%.
Brilliant review as usual chopsy, I ride a '16 myself. Can't see myself getting another bike unless the insurance decides to be as cheap for a R1. Also what is the chest harness with the pockets you have on? It's not listed in the description. Cheers
Yamaha cross plane engine sounds glorious especially with a full exhaust system
nice video chopsy looks like you enjoyed it i once rode one i shit myself i sneezed and the front end came up . wouldn't mind a test ride of those other models 😂🤣👍me thinks you need an MT10 in your new garage .
Awesome bike 💯
Brilliant stuff future of bike stuff as now magazine's seems to be slowly disappearing,,😢😢😢but your channel is great for loads of reasons,, glad Yamaha are on board 🛹☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
Thanks Cecil 👍
About time I've been waiting months chopsy
Nice vid as usual! My ,2€ coming from a 2020 Tuono Factory:
+ Better ergonomics (190Cm tall, 95-ish kg's)
+ easier to go on a leisurely pace, i felt the Tuono was a bit too race focused
+ I got the faster Icon Blue one ;)
+ Dealer network is heads and shoulders better than the Aprilia
- Rearview mirrors a bit shite, i have no need to admire my shoulders and elbows
- Brakes, as you noted as well. They do stop the bike but feel more "remote" than the Ape
- Mine's a little bouncy in the rear, it almost feels like the wheel gets airborne over ripples and sharp jolts. Can probably/hopefully be dialed out.
- Seat gets uncomfortable faster than the Tuono's did. Expensive solution - comfort seat.
All in all i like it very much!
Cheers.
I'm seriously considering the Tuono over the MT. I'm 170cm (short af I know) but haven't sat on either in years - which is better for us shorter guys?
@@melburnmt7320 The Tuono feels surprisingly high considering how compact it is. Both it and the MT feel ok for me. The MT has the more relaxed ergos of the two IMO. I got neck and knee pain on the Ape, but "only" a bit sore bum on the Yam.
Hey, what about the engine between both ? What is the one you prefer?
I think the biggest benefit of the inline four over the V4, is it won't cook your legs in traffic.
I live in Western Australia and anything in a Vee configuration is awful in summer time.
That's a very good point! 👍
Of course the cheeky thing to do is to set the speed limiter, then adjust your wheelie control to chil at about 12 o'clock, and just roll through town like that ;)
Very good review, defo my next bike later this year.
May I ask you seem to be appearing a type of body harness with pouches could you provide me with the details please.
Looking promising for an SP next year! 👍
Good honest review, as ever. Would love to see a review of the SP version? I keep looking for a an honest group test with the either the SP against Tuono factory OR standard MT10 against basic Tuono.
Most people use these bikes on the road and the feedback you give is invaluable. One second a lap faster around Cadwell (just buy a track bike!) ….so what in the real world?
Review of the SP coming soon & a comparison with the Superduke Evo 👍
You are a hooligan Sir. Plenty of room in that Garage/Gentlemens Estabilishment for a SP 😜
Hey chopsy could you review the mt-09 sp?
Seeing as you’re now able to ride yamahas again
Come on Chopsy, a wee dab of clutch in 3rd coming out of those corners and get her up 😉 I had a 2017 MT10 and it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. Currently on an S1000r and loving it too, we are spoiled for choice
When you were going round those corners I was looking for Ruth to appear hanging off one of the road signs. 🤣🤣🤣Drier roads are not far away mate!
I'm picking the standard model up in the coming weeks and sticking an additional 6 litre tank on the back in a top box. That way, im comfortable for touring and but have maximum satisfaction!
MT 10 always very good machine , you got me for a second with the first girl.
Manufacturers have to buy break pads by the palette to fulfill their work flow. Sometimes that means they can't get the best set. Its is an easy upgrade to change them out at the 1st tire change and can make a big difference. After that braided lines.
If you want to transform the front brakes get a set of the new Brembo LA compound pads. i put them on my MT-09 and I am blown away. Ther is nothing that compares. They transform the Yammi brake to a one finger brake.
Picked mine up on Saturday and this video was the sole reason i even considered the MT10, as I was overlooking it prior! Go collect your commision chopsy!
Haha good to hear! 👍
A bit sweaty after that intro, as well as feeling a bit guilty for not having to pay a cover charge. At least where I live you have to pay for that kind of entertainment. Okay okay back to the bike review😂👏 That’s a Yamaha I’d like to give a go at. Although out of all the MT’s the MT09 I think is the one for me. Might change my mind if I ever get a chance with that MT10 though, and from all accounts/reviews the SP is much much better. Chops you’ve ridden both the mt10 and mt09, two questions… Which one do you like better, and which one do you think is the better bike, overall? Great content👏
Haha thanks Dukie, unfortunately not ridden the MT09 since the first version so long ago. Will get on the lastest version soon hopefully
Nice bike my perfect bike is the m1000R but I can't afford 24G I'm going for the Suzuki GT I think.
That light might be the "break in warning" light. Kawasakis have an obnoxious one that constantly flashes when you go outside the "break in range"
Wow love the mt10....
Mate, if you like this version, put a link pipe on and have the ecu flashed, it only gets better.
Had a 2018 MT10 for a season. Definitely a hooligan bike. My biggest grip was how light the front end felt when smashing it. I found myself having to lean over the tank to calm things down. Otherwise the front tire was barely on the road. 😂. Fun bike for sure. Sold it because pillion comfort was miserable and it just wasn't for me. But man that crossplane sound is truly intoxicating. Now riding a zx14r and love it.
I did the same. Was an 2018 MT10 owner and own ZZR1400 now. Different bikes but happy with ZZR now.
@@krzysiek.80 Definitely a different bike but in a good way. Hyper Sport. Just great all around with big power.
I started on a 21 MT09. Was considering a ZX14R as a second bike, then I switched it to ZH2, now I'm set on a 23 MT10. ZH2 will be next.
@@user-qi8zj6kd3c can't tell you how much I love my zx14r. It's just an incredible hyper bike. Definitely a straight line monster that still handles well in the corners. The power is relentless. It's almost too easy to go well north of mid triple digits without much effort. But it's definitely not a wheelie monster like the MT was. The MT was much lighter and shorter hence the hooligan effect. Lol. The h2 is a crazy machine also. But heavy like a zx14r.
@@gelley46 ZX14R is still attractive to me but I am a young hooligan. Can it be made faster than H2? If they drop a 3rd gen I'll def pick one up
Wow what a fantastic new edition to the start of the show hope this is the way forward to the start of every video hehe Mmm?? 😂😱 Anyway on to the review of the MT10 great review as always Chopsy I just wish it looked a lot better as I think it looks absolutely hideous I've been waiting to buy one for yonks but not when they look like that!! 🤮 Nice one Chopsy!! 👌🏻👍🏻😁
Finally working with Yamaha, let’s get a review of the 2023 mt07 👌🏻
Great review chopsy ,,,, but it ain’t no Tuono or superduke
Very unique sound to this machine. Not my cup of tea, but clearly a very capable piece of kit.....
Nice Eye Candy! Now what kind of bike did you just test?!!!
Rode the SP version today, our head always argues a lot with all these variants, why not just make one bike the best you can. I would say the M1000R Competition we rode just prior(once again you have an S1000R, S1000R Sport, M1000R, M1000R Comp!) we rode before is a hard contender, the MT-10SP is a lovely bike I think it comes down to preference now, if you like Yamaha you'll by the MT10, if you like Aprilia you'll get a Tuono, if you like BMW you'll get an S1000(or M1000, recommended!) you're not going to go badly wrong with any of them, but if you want the Streetfighter or M1000 you're gonna be getting your wallet out that's for sure, even more so if you starting playing with the spec sheet we specced up a £40,000+ Streetfighter V4S on it!)
"miserable" 😂 Great vid, weird how they don't think it through on what you can and can't adjust on the fly?
Streetfighter v4 or the MT10 if you’d to choose?
Funny start to your video chopsy, would have liked a look around the bike as don't know much about it, what size is the engine? and what sort of range, enjoyed it all the same😂
Yes will do a follow up ride Ray with walk around if weather plays ball this week 👍
I'm looking at getting a 2017/18/19 tuono factory OR 2020 v4 streetfighter base model, is this worth considering? (all can be had for similar money in Oz - $25K)
Owning the MT-10SP since february, I agree with pretty much everything you've said here!
Brakes: Yeah, they are a bit dissapointing. With the SP version I have the braided lines, but 12th of May I'm going to do my first trackday, and I'll probably swap out the brakepads there. That should improve the feel a bit. Stopping power is enough for sporty road usage, though.
Fuel economy: well.... Despite Yamaha's claims, I average about 7,4L/100km. Converted to UK MPG it's around 38mpg, and 31 US mpg.
And now the sporty riding season will begin with the weather clearing up, so I expect it to go up a bit more as well. So assume 200km (120-130 miles) for the 17liter tank.
But hey, it's all about the smiles per gallon!
The extra sound from the airbox is wonderful. Before I did my test on the machine, I thought it would probably be some meh gimmick, but I really really enjoy it. With all the sound regulations lately, bikes will end up quieter and quieter, and this is actually a great solution to still have a love engine sound for yourself, without waking up the entire neighbourhood. This needs to be implemented on way more bikes.
But damn is it fun, and comfortable fun. I would suggest the comfort seat for longer distances, the regular seat is rather thin. But I assume pretty much every manufacturer makes a meh regular seat to sell us the comfort seat. Especially with the more upright seat position, more weight rests on your ass.
The engine is wonderful. Powerful enough for a lot of fun, the character is great, and on the public roads no bike will outrun you. On the track the 200hp hypernakeds will obviously be faster. But will they be more fun? I don't know.
The SP version has the best paint scheme IMO, and with the underbelly pan, and the nice gold öhlins it actually looks great. I wasn't a fan of looks in the beginning, but it does start to grow on me. Probably because of the fun it provides.
Coming from a 2019 Tuono, I agree with the comparisons as well. I've switched to the MT-10 because of the more comfortable riding position, and after 34.000km the Tuono started to get some electronic niggles.
All in all, I'm very happy with it. I hope to keep it until I become an old person needing a BMW Touring bike.
Fantastic feedback Rutger, I didn't know you had one! I'm absolutely loving it
@@LambChopRides Jep, having it since february! It even has the LCR sock on the brake fluid reservoir :D
@rutgersmets4283 oh spot on sir! 😁👍
A Couple of Liters Bigger Tank
Would not Hurt , most owners will accept the Bike uses Fuel
Suzuki gave their 1000 a 19 litre
Tank
Is Mrs Chops okay with your garage being more of a multipurpose space than just one for your beloved bikes? Lol JK. Great content as always Chopsy and like usual, I can’t wait for more! 👍👍
As you know Chopsy I love the MT10 as had the SP since 2017 and still have her. We have not ridden the new one yet to compare and still awaiting Yamaha on this. I don’t understand why on this bike it still has rubber brake lines, and only having the stainless ones on the SP version. The price of stainless lines are not that expensive so should have them on as standard IMO. Even the RE Interceptor we are testing atm has them 😮
I do wonder how intrusive the electronics feel compared to my 2017 SP, need to test back to back.
The electronics on the new one are great, on the old one I guess you have to turn everything off for some wheelie action?
Thoughts on this vs the S1000R?