Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes - Epimenides Boss Fight
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- ►Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes - Epimenides Boss Fight & Arval's Farewell
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I liked this fight. Get clones of different characters to fight, but felt his whole arc ended quickly with no real explanation lol. Maybe there's more in the secret route. Let's see. Enjoy!
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This... this is the actual secret route, then the game just ends with your normal route
Epimenides: (Forces them each to fight their own selves)
Dimitri: “Jokes on you, I’m into that shit!”
Dimitri really got a free therapy session out of this
Is funny to see arval is not either side, just personal hatred to sothis, and dont really care the future he sought to defend. Lol
SPOILERS
Arval doesn't despise Shez when they recruit Byleth.
Epimenides on the other hand despises Shez for recruiting Byleth since he hates Sothis, and by extension, Byleth as well.
Ive been wondering how and why those who slither kept their ambition running for over 1k years......their first leader preserved himself and his ideas, magic, and technology, for shambala to observe.
This make more sense then I'd like it to.
Oooh, good interpretation.
Was it because of the Nabateans oppresion and genocide? Isn't that enough reason?
Actually Arval paralogue Actually has Thales mentioned so apparently the Agarthans have had the same leader for at least 1000 years
"I vote we kill this thing and see what happens"
Damn, Claude let out his intrusive thoughts for once and it's refreshing as hell seeing him talks like that
From what i get is the Epimenedes is the true identity and arval was a different mind, epimenedes was dormant and awoke when byleth was recruited instead of killed.
Arval is a clone of Epimenedes that Epimenedes used to continue his concious after he was killed by Serios
So, from what I understand:
When a Progenitor God dies, their soul enters this "Sea" of souls. Epimenides (an Agarthan man) purposefully took the soul of a Progenitor God (Arval) from this sea and bound his consciousness to it, so that whenever his body dies and Arval finds a new vessel, his consciousness can hitch a ride to that body and effectively live forever.
I guess this is a fine explanation, but I still have a few questions:
1. Who is Arval, actually? Judging by the nature of their body inhabitation, they at least seem to be the same kind of creature as Sothis. Are they just some random dragon that Epimenides chose to use for his experiment?
2. Are there any conditions that need to be fulfilled for Arval to reincarnate into a new body? I ask this because for Sothis, there were some pretty crazy criteria that needed to be met for Byleth to happen (Crest of Seiros and Crest of Flames blood needed to be mixed, and Sothis' crest stone needed to be implanted into the resulting child). Is the same true for Arval, or do they just randomly attach themselves to a human whenever they're born? For a while, I was leaning towards Shez being an Agarthan experiment that had Arval forcefully implanted into them (as the opening POV shot from inside what is clearly an Agarthan facility seemed to suggest) but that can't be true since none of the Agarthans recognize Shez throughout the story. If Shez were created by the Agarthans, an argument can be made for Kronya not knowing about them, but there's no way Thales or Solon wouldn't know, since this is exactly the kind of project they would have intimate knowledge of.
3. How the hell did Epimenides know how to pull this shit off? I know Agarthan technology is advanced, but there's no way this is common knowledge there because otherwise, they'd abuse the hell out of it. Did he somehow steal this knowledge from the Children of the Goddess? Rhea at the very least seems to know the exact method needed to bring Sothis back, and Seteth seemed to be aware that it was possible as well, since he figured out early on that Byleth was Rhea's attempt at doing so. But I imagine this would be a closely guarded secret so, what the hell happened?
In any case, this just goes to show how lacking our knowledge on the early lore of Three Houses really is. I understand if this stuff is kept intentionally vague for the purpose of maintaining the mystery, but that doesn't stop it from being frustrating, lol.
Rhea/Seiros didn't know how to resurrect Sothis though. The only known way, was via the Chalice in the DLC chapter/story. But she didn't have the 4 crests she needed for it, at the time, and then it turned out to not function how we initially thought it would.
Byleth is a complete accident, Seiros tried several experiments and attempts to revive her mother, to no avail. I think Sitri was attempt 12? Byleth was the first child of an experiment, and had Sitri not asked to have the heart of Sothis removed from her, and put into Byleth, then Sothis would've never potentially awakened. Although it is interesting that in 3 Hopes, Sothis actually controls Byleth for a moment. Which is something Seiros wanted Sothis to learn how to do in 3 Houses, so she could fully reincarnate.
IF anything, I'd say Epemenides came from the time when Sothis first emerged on the land, and likely took over a decent swath of it, for her and the Dragons she then brought. Thus sparking the war and hatred. Epemenides was likely a leader or massive scholar during the height of their civilization, before the Agarthan war.
As for Arval, I wonder if he was a human God? We know Sothis is a Time Dragon, and is heralded as the Progenitor God for Nabateans (Manaketes) in that region as she descended seemingly from the moon.
Like I wouldn't be surprised if she was one of the 12 ancients or something (assuming it's connected).
But in the same vein, I wonder if Arval ever was some form of Dragon, or maybe just a Progenitor for human life.
@@phonicrose8395 Maybe Arval was some kind of Space dragon? What with all the teleportation powers
Arval is not a god, just a clone of Epimenedes.
Arval was created by Epimenides but your interpretation would have been cooler imo.
I seriously hate this comment. Like a lot. Because your version sounds awesome, and it really makes me think about what could have been.
I don't know why people are so determined to hate on Three Hopes. This is super cool.
People are just overreacting as per usual. Hopes is a great game.
@@nuibaba280 I've only seen the full Scarlet Blaze route (both routes) from Faerghast's stream. In my opinion Scarlet Blaze started really strongly with the coup in Enbarr, the fleshing out of minor characters like: Count Gloucester, Count Hevring, Lord Lonato, the alliance with Claude.
Then it just kind of fizzles out in the end. Like WTF was that ending? So anticlimactic for both routes. And the whole evil Arval arc doesn't even enter the main plot in a meaningful way, they just continue on like nothing happened, it feels like a side show. None of the Shez, Arval, Sothis backstory rivalry lore is fleshed out. If anything the "bad" ending was more coherent, despite being very anticlimactic. It feels like a missed opportunity. Hopefully the other routes aid the coherence better.
It doesn't help that some people don't like/prefer warriors or warriors style games
@@nuibaba280 I think it’s because a lot of things have to happen or rather not happen for this story to occur the way it does. Shez and Arval are, in my opinion much less interesting protagonists, that’s not to say I don’t like them, but I feel like the changes they make to the story aren’t a direct consequence of them being involved.
The second problem I have and the main reason why the story occurs is that Byleth is basically completely removed from the central plot, and Byleth is basically the most important person in three houses (besides maybe Edelgard) almost the entirety of the first game Revolved around him and Sothis just… EXISTING. While I understand that’s the whole shtick of this game (what if Byleth never came to the monestary) It’s not like they suddenly should go back to just being some mercenary, why does Sothis basically just vanish after you recruit Byleth? I don’t have a problem with making Byleth less important to the overall plot, if it’s done correctly.
I really like the game, but the story just feels a bit weaker in a lot of places this time around, plus no S supports and the messy Endings, it’s pretty easy to see why people are somewhat leaning towards negative.
It's cool yeah, but terribly unexplained or inconsequential. The story explains so little about Shez and Arval, and the changes from the main game occur from forces external to them, so it barely justifies their presence.
Don't get me wrong, the game is great and fun but it's not like it did much else to the overall lore or general story the main game does not tell already.
The most curious thing is that his tome is from Timotheos. Hapi mentioned feeling a strange sensation in one chapter relating to the slitherers..
Has Timotheos been a key part of Those Who Slither in the Dark since the very start? When the Chalice of Beginnings was crafted was the current host of Arval present inside the Timotheos crest-wielder? So many questions man, this game is packed to the brim with the lore
Plus the mention of a great flood and water again! Has the entire land been flooded in the past before?? Is this really a long lost Archanea?
It gave us so much in such a short span of time
Great flood = tellius
I think the slithers stole it
So many questions, but no answers. Boring.
@@moonmoon2479 It answers some things for sure, but I dont mind the new questions. Personally I like it when games leave mysteries, open ended stuff is more fun to think about
...or maybe Epimenides stole Timotheos' identity at some point, similar to Kronya with Monica, etc.?
I really really loved this fight!!!!
13:34 the music is perfectly in sync
It's a cutscene so yeah it is
I like how they got along just fine during this kerfuffle and then go back to war with each other
Epimenides nuts
Claude: "How do you know for sure they're not real?"
Last time i checked people needed sacrifices to be sent there. How'd you even perform the rite if you can't leave?
Epimenides also didn't kill anyone to enable the spell to work, so there's that.
Is this just for the Black Eagles route or is it in the others too?
It's in all routes, you just have to recruit Byleth
How do you get this route????? Can I get this through azure gleam?
You need to recruit Byleth
From my understanding is that if you don’t recruit byleth you kill her but if you do recruit her you end up killing him instead
Honestly Three Hope’s writing is all over the place, so some Agarthan miraculously turned himself into a surrogate progenitor god through some means. The Agarthans are aware of this and for some reason didn’t attempt to replicate it?
Even aside from all that then there’s the fact that Myson mentions “his core” meaning that not only did Epimenides pass down his consciousness through Arval but through some means his core was implanted into a human body. Potentially through the Agarthans but we also see Epimenides scorned by the the other Agarthans such as Myson. So he potentially went rogue? And the way Sothis is introduced in Three Hopes as viewing Byleth only as a means to and end to her own wishes and will and portrays her as more of a villain- She even straight up says that if Byleth attempts to sit on her throne she would have surrendered her body to her ENTIRELY! Honestly I love Three Hopes & Three Houses but there are so many plot holes and writing flaws TvT
I think it was more Myson belives that Shez was Epimenides because he had his core and powers so assumed he turned against them
Fire Emblem in TRON?!
I still don't understand Epimendes relationship to the Agarthans or who Shez is. Where was Arval in the original 3H? Very unsatisfying answers.
Epimendes appears to be the first and/or most important Slither who figured out how to reincarnate himself. Shez is just the most recent vessel.
Arval was either dead or in a new vessel during the course of TH since Shez was dead.
@@kylekraus6722 its a new vessel in abyss
she is a abyss gremory
Anyone know how the heck I'm supposed to use unlocked characters in fights aside from byleth?
Characters unlocked with renown can't be used in main missions. Only in some side quests. It's lame
@@Rubhen925 well that blows
@@Rubhen925 They can be used in main missions via the record battles. You just can't use them when you do it for the first time for canon reasons.
Ah fair enough. I always forget about record battles 🤣
@@Rubhen925 shame that we can't train there classes outside of recorded fights though, makes it more trouble to up their classes
Can someone please explain how the Agarthans are different from the normal humans?
They live underground, ergo their pallor. Some, like Solon, have big brains.
@@DarkAdonisVyers So basically, they are either nerds, murderhobos or losers.
Well it seems that all current humans on the surface were actually created by Sothis after the Agarthans basically started a nuclear war.
So in the eyes of the Agarthans everyone in Fodlan are nothing more then beasts made by Sothis and must be cleansed.
@@4wheal Where do you source that from? The only source for her creating anything besides her own family I have seen is Heroes and...I would honestly put it into the box of "Heroes once again misunderstanding something/making sh*t up"
@@lpfan4491 Nope Myson himself says that all humans on the surface are descendants of a beast and are of a different race.
Epimenides also refers to the surface people as Sothis spawn as well combined with Sothis calling herself the mother of all life in Fodlan
Myson actually says that's why the surface people can become demonic beasts is because of being made by Sothis
The way epimenides died isn't accurate.
What actually happened was that Shez used her ultimate skill known as:
*Epimenideez nuts*
This whole game’s Story feels so incredibly underwhelming, that I can’t be bothered to finish watching any playthrough of this Game, let alone play it. This whole Secret Mission is honestly the MOST underwhelming part of the Game (the fights are cool, the story part of it isn’t), as the Final Mission proceeds as if nothing happened. And apparently, only Scarlet Blaze’s Ending has any difference (if one could call it that) if Byleth is alive or not, but the Game doesn’t even try to explain how that’s possible. Three Hopes overall, feels like it gave us a Bunch of New Lore, but didn’t know how to tell a story WITH this New Lore.
Yeah Its a shame, I powered through Golden Deer story and feel nothing. Only thing I liked was seeing more of my favorite characters interacting. And its fun, guess.
It is Mental Omega-esque, that starts ambitious, goes out of control, ends in mess...
the story is good though.
@@jkarma3356 aww, did you need to cope some more. Keep crying.
@@moonmoon2479 you are the one who needs to cope.
What an incedibly dissapointing story. This ending is hidden behind something you can easily mess up. and the payoff isnt even worth it.
naw.
@@jkarma3356 lol, there’s some massive cope.
@@moonmoon2479 you keep on coping.
@@jkarma3356 hahahahahaha. Are you really crying that hard? That’s insane. Can’t even do anything except “no you” through that many tears. Lol. Game sucks. Get over it.
Oh, but wait, this mission changes a single sentence in Scarlet Blaze, that’s the reward for doing this mission.
is there even any challenge at all, cos it doesn't feel like it's even remotely hard in any way.
even on Lunatic, the game is just that simple.
Maddening.
Then create challenge within the framework of the game, iron weapons only, no overlevelling etc etc
@@hexmaniacciaran lol, that’s the biggest excuse I’ve ever heard.
Hey, my Claude died to the phantoms in Maddening... I had to do all the dirty work myself with maxed Shez so the kids didn't get 1-hit KO'd :(
too easy of a game with little to no challenge.
Increase difficulty.
Try Maddening Blue Lyons route, you'll have fun fighting lv.150 brawlers with your lv.50 Mercedes and Annete xd
Looks like someone played on easy mode
@@jesseyatento7406 there's just no challenge at all in the game, even soo called hard or Lunatic is still too easy