Nice Cycling #5 | Out of Danger
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- This series has now moved to this channel permanently. In today's episode we are looking particularly at the relationship between space and speed. All these clips were sent in by one viewer, so many thanks!
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4:49 I agree, it's good that the cyclist tries to help out larger vehicles who might be delayed and find it harder to pass than cars, but it does depend on the situation. Especially in 20 - 30 zones buses stop frequently anyway, so if you as a cyclist are going at 20 it isn't usually worth facilitating an overtake. However if the speed limit was higher and you know that the large vehicle could make quite a bit of progress if you let them past, then as cyclists we could consider helping them out.
8:15 good awareness from the van driver too with the "thank you" using the hazard lights 👍
This is the type of cycling all should follow, and that goes to drivers too. I'm happy to say that when I cycle I share some of the traits of this cyclist, always thinking ahead and planning my next move, top draw mate!
Great that you're highlighting cycling on your channel(s) now, Ashley. It helps to raise awareness of cycling and the needs of cyclists; plus the things cyclists need to be thinking about. It helps everyone!
0:02 can we also just appreciate the excellent 'pedestrianing' here, the lady with the buggy is walking towards the edge and not right down the middle whilst looking at their phone!
Lol. Add a pair of headphones so they can't hear your bell for extra eye rolling effect.
You have got a good, like minded , NON deluded cycling viewer, there , Ashley. When I was in the suburbs of Glasgow on Tuesday, I had , for as long as I can remember , or maybe for the first time , a cyclist coming up on the inside while I was slowing down to turn left at a junction, so , again , I had your two channels in my thoughts as I kept an eye on the cyclist to my left , but he passed the point I was going to turn before I turned ,anyway so a non event, which is what we all want.
*Excellent cycling, excellent commentary, excellent video, excellent channel.*
Nice to see the flash of appreciation from the van driver at 8:15.
0:10 which is one reason why cyclists are less of a risk than drivers, their speed is inherently limited.
As for the slightly goading Strava comment, it's unlikely any cyclist is going to be riding flat out on that recreational trail. If there's a segment on it, you can flag it for removal.
In general, some decent riding on display there, would have pretty much done the same.
Anything that encourages any road user to go as fast as possible is wrong
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I'll give you there are some places where strava segments are wrong and should be flagged for removal - but mostly, going as fast as possible on a bicycle is not actually that fast compared to motorised traffic. It has great benefits for improving fitness and enjoyment of sport.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCyclingsatnav out then
8:53 this last one, I normally think to myself "oh that car doesn't appear to have indicators!"
Or “Run out of indicator fluid again”
@@smilerbob yes or "what are them stalks near the steering wheel?"
"shame, brand new car and the indicators are broken."
or the latest, "BMW owner can't afford the indicator subscription."
@@kenbrown2808 🤣
I cycle often, used to do it daily. A few years ago I tried out a couple of groups to add a social aspect to it. The riding of others in the group was largely awful. Few shoulder checks, and generally inconsiderate and dangerous. Granted this is a microcosm view of cyclists as I didn't always see issues and it wasn't everyone in the groups, but it put me off group riding. I'd often move left and wave cars thru if I could see up ahead was clear. Other cyclists seemed too focused on Strava times as you've said
And the clip at 8:23 was brilliant. Slowing, adjusting position and allowing space. Just as any road user should do 👍
Just realized I wasn't fully set up to receive the notifications for these. I will watch this whilst on the stationary bike at home for an hour...where it's very easy to practice nice cycling!
7:38 another thing I'd mention about staying back here is that the cyclist isn't hidden behind the van as they go through the junction, meaning traffic turning right from the oncoming lane can see the cyclist much easier and makes it less likely that a crash will happen.
"Make it a non-event" is such a great mantra to have for any road user; motorist, cyclist, or pedestrian. This is a great video of excellent practices to use on the road.
It is a great philosophy but difficult to practice when you've been "cut up" for the umpteenth time during the one journey, whether in the car or on the bike. Sometimes it's good to have a serious swearing session, if only to the steering wheel/handlebars, just to let off some steam.
Exemplary riding, and proof to some of the very vocally argumentative types out there that it's perfectly possible to spend a fair amount of time in the saddle with minimal risk, and fairly low blood pressure.
More from Twickenham, Teddington, Sheen Lane, Sheen Road, Kingston town centre. Again, why nothing from Richmond Park (except the brief clip of the shared 10mph limit Middle Road/Quietway?). Weird, given how popular Richmond Park is with sports cyclists. Perhaps something to do with the 20mph limit - that sports cyclists say doesn’t apply to them, so they often undertake & overtake cars doing 20mph, invariably closer than 5ft and often into into oncoming traffic (i.e. shoot the gap).
What?!? Nice video of a calm, courteous cyclist sharing the road and showing how it's done. However, I'm in the U.S. and absolutely would have gone on the sidewalk (pavement) instead of waiting at roadworks in a cloud of exhaust fumes. It's odd that pavement riding is not allowed there, while here every child first learns to ride on our sidewalks. You drop speed to about 5 mph when/if there's any danger of pedestrians popping out. Then just use the 'have they seen me' methodology to navigate safely.
Let's face the truth. Anybody can buy any kind of bicycle or scooter today.Whether they have the knowledge or road skills to use it is a totally different thing. Many people buy a bike and because there isn't any registration,insurance or licence required feel like they can ris=de any way they want to even if their riding puts themselves or others in danger.
8:36 Nice Cyclegaz (minus the profanities) impression there Ashley!
Last clip: Mirror Signal Manoeuvre doesn't apply to BMWs - Ashley should know that!
Q: What would you have done differently in the last two minutes of this clip?
A: Taken 4 minutes, I'm not as fit as your viewer & suspect I have a heavier bike.
Excellent cycling from a very experienced cyclist confident to ride well within his ability's, Knows when to give way knows when to go fast, Bet you he never starts shouting at motorist. he spot problems and solves them with no drama. He should teach kids how to ride.
3:47 I think they did a good job (second cyclist a little less so), but as the first cyclist I think I would have stopped right there where they are at my timestamp. I tend to focus on being in the driver's right mirror, so I wouldn't have got closer when the van slowed and stopped. I would have made it a little more difficult for the car to go around me, but I would have been on the driver's side of the van for their entire reverse (especially if the van driver reversed around the corner instead). I'd have to move for the lorry, but that's fine.
7:18 I would have kept going and filtered, but not past the indicating van. Also, when I know the traffic light is about to change my aim is to arrive at a point where I am visible through the front windscreen of a vehicle stopped in traffic before it starts moving so I can keep rolling and save my knee from starting off again. I would have probably ended up just in front of the dark Citroën (that they poorly started indicating later is irrelevant, but I'd stay behind them had they indicated earlier).
Give that van driver his due. He put his hazards on as a thank you for letting him go.
I'm curious to know if this good cyclist is also a car driver. Because often, roadcraft via one method of getting around will carry on over to another. Also, this cyclist seems quite aware of how motor vehicle drivers see things. For myself, I even find that various parts of my own roadcraft carry over to when I'm a pedestrian.
5:30. You need to position yourself so the van driver has lots of opportunities to see you. You need to stop in the mirror zone where you can be seen.
Aother one with lots of parked cars. Yes, you need to be outside the door zone. But equally, and you see it with more nervous cyclists, they pass a car immediately move to the left, because its safe - right? Then up comes another parked car and they have to swerve back into the road. You are far better saying out, and only moving to the left if threatened by a car behind. Clear hand signals, when you are moving left, saying please over take now makes a difference as well as dressing like a lemon with christmas lights.
This is also why straight roads, and bus lanes are good. You are going faster, so longer to be seen.
In a situation such as at around 6:57 when filtering past a van or any vehicle that substantially blocks sight lines, I may be inclined to slow a little more, cover my bike brakes, as well as sound my bell. Especially for the possibility of pedestrians crossing. And unlike car horns where there's the possibility of others taking offense even when the horn is used correctly, I feel that the likelihood of a similar misunderstanding is considerably lower for a bike bell.
Lots of very polite cyclists along the Bristol-Bath cycle path when I was walking along it the day before yesterday.
8:20 The van driver also used his hazard lights to thank the cyclist, which deserves acknowledgement.
I do hope plenty of drivers watch videos like this, if they don’t cycle themselves it’s a great way for them to learn about the thought processes and views of other more vulnerable road users.
Very nice! The door zone clearance could be better here. It isn't so bad when the cars are faced towards you and fine if your speed is really low such that you could stop on a penny.
But do be prepared for "harassment" from drivers behind you in these situations, even if you are capable of riding at 20mph plus. A good example is the perimeter road of Sefton Park in Liverpool. Cars parked almost right the way round on both sides these days, especially in the summer months. But you'll still feel plenty of pressure to keep left as people try to force past. It's an occupational hazard of choosing the bike for fitness/leisure/commuting I'm afraid. ps Sefton Park is 20mph all the way round but few people drive at that speed.
I think you have a fair way of driving either bike or motor bike. Where i live it is almost totally different although using the same side of the road. If a one way street is empty they will go the wrong way on it also slip roads it is quite regular to see a motor bike coming towards you and not stopping so please enjoy your ride in Britain.
I proudly give pedestrians space on shared paths and slow down for them. And I'm a lycra wearing speed demon.
Question. Do drivers still need to keep 1.5 meters away if you are cycling on a painted cycle lane like at 07:21 ?
I prefer to position slightly to the right of primay in a queue as it means oncoming traffic can see me and don't think the gap is something they can potentially try to turn into and still lets me see the driver in their right wing mirror or central rear-view.
That was awesome. Watching these compilations is like taking a walk in the park - zen. 😁🙏
boy, the difference between the teaser on this one and the teaser on the last one.
and yeah, the second cyclist with the van did get caught out a bit.
I like these. Please, more nice Nice Cycling videos.
0:41 nearly got a bike parked in his buttocks like the old deceased partner joke.
4:54 yes I would have waited until after the parked cars to allow the bus by
Four mins in, I would've let the van go first as they were there before me.
If we make everything a 'non event' will it teach people that they haven't made a mistake and therefore keep doing it? What about learning from your mistakes? Discuss.
Tomorrows upload on the other channel addresses this
Viewer request: dealing with people wearing headphones
Strava is too woke so I gave it up.
Looking at the size of most of the cycle lanes makes me wonde why they set the distance you have to pass them at 1.5 metres as none of the cycle lanes look anywhere near that big
The cycle lanes are too small if just a painted line. Please still give at least 1.5m when passing in a car.
That's all around my local area! Is there a separate email to send cycling clips, or use the one on the main channel?
Use the same one. Thanks 🙏
I always filter to the front of the lights, like 95% of the time, I’d say a good 20% of the time the lights change as I’m trying to filter and I just squeeze myself in, just ignore them completely raging tbh, I live in Edinburgh we have the bay at the front at nearly every set of lights I’d be using on a daily, and it’s way safer being up there.
That's an interesting topic. Hope cycling infra changes how you ride from city to city.
I would love to send in a few of my clips in for you to take a look at, how would I go about doing this?
People usually upload their footage to Google Drive, and then send me a link to ashleysanalysis@gmail.com
Great riding
Strava more important lol
3:24 was this reported?
Are you censoring comments ? My one seems to have vanished
Nope
One thing I would add, if you are ever cycling and you 'let a' pedestrian cross, ALWAYS be very aware of what is going on behind you. Many cars will simply ignore the cyclist stopping in front of them and overtake leading to the pedestrian being hit (or possibility you being rear ended).
That's a beautiful path and park in the very first clip. Curious to know where that might be. Richmond Park in Surrey comes to mind but really it could be in any manner of places.
Hi Ashley, thanks for the great content and your very nuanced look at how we have to share the space we have and to create the best flow for everyone.
I've been watching your other channel for some years now but I do not drive, don't even have a license and no ambition to ever get one so it felt a bit funny watching your driving instructor videos. I'm a keen user of bicycles everyday and cycle through big parts of Europe (and a bit outside) every summer and not a big fan of cars, but we do need some unfortunately, though I can understand one's enthusiasm for these machines.
Also I've just been enjoying driving fail videos, but was very happy to see that someone can also upload nice driving videos. Very Positive!
I think you can always become a zen teacher if you would ever have enough of driving.
After you started to bring more attention to cycling it all became clear and I'm an even bigger fan, keep up the good work!
Glad to see "Advanced cycling driving" sadly, the law see cyclist as a pedestrian. I think we need put them in another level. And ask any cyclist have some training. Where I am living in West midlands, as pedestrian I have cyclist almost hit me frequently in the corners, other are clever and open the limit point of view in corners and inclusive ring the bell before. We need more education for cyclist and motor vehicle drivers. Very good footages an examples Ashley.
Slowing down is part and parcel of the gig. Especially if the peds are oblivious and not exercising good situational awareness.
That’s actually how I deal with roads as well, it makes a more pleasant ride. Tho the bus I would of speeded up and stayed out that little longer before moving over.
You should have a ride down the curry mile in Manchester that would be a fun video to watch 😂😂
Nice video nice riding. I agree its not worth getting wound up but to take a pride in anticipating and letting the situation sort itself out.
Strong cyclist with good decision making-you can learn from him!
7:10 I'm not sure if I would have done much differently, probably wouldn't have moved over to the left each time
Nice to see the van say thank you in the third from last clip.
As a pedestrian I sometimes hear a cycle bell, sometimes hear a cycle bell and not recognise, sometimes not hear a cycle bell, but when I'm with my wife, I know there is a cyclist as I am told. Thanks to cyclists for their patience.
My fiance is blind and I'm pretty sure he often hears the bikes coming before I do!
Thank you
5:13 there is the option of taking the side road to the left instead of just waiting at the end of the queue.
If you don’t express disapproval when people do things wrong, then I don’t think they will change. I think it’s usually better to point it out.
Think this is a bit naive personally. People dont always take criticism well and I reckon you stand just as much chance provoking road rage than someone reacting positively. And dont forget at least for drivers, licencing is a thing. If people arent obey rules they did to get through a driving test, thatll say a lot about their personality. I'd rather make something a non event, keep safe and be on my way quicker.
@@joncurtis199 I always warn via bell or verbal of my presence.
Approaching two women.. "good for you, you actually used a bell'' ,obvious sarcastic overtone.
Wasn't impressed but bit my tongue and carried on.
@@joncurtis199 they may not react well, but they probably still don’t like the feeling of being disapproved of. Obviously the chance of provoking road rage has to be thought about but normally I don’t think this is high unless you shout or swear.
@@QiuEnnan its still a chance, and its still more likely than somebody "learning" imo. It aint worth it. Leave it as a nonevent and get on with your day.
@donkavision8157 They may if they've done summat wrong out of laziness and in the mistaken belief that no one will call them out on it.
Nice one.
Love this. Might have to get a camera and record some London cycling clips for you. Any recommendations on a camera, or will any go pro type thing work well?
Please check out the links in the description 👍👊
2:06 Maserati GT 🖤
Have to agree with everything shown here, except… isn’t it about time we had compulsory safety training and expert assessment of anyone wanting to ride an electric scooter on the road (or pavement) ?
Personally they are no different than cycles for me as long as they have a limited top speed.
We have compulsory training and expert assessment of car drivers (and beyond) and look at how some of those behave 🤷🏻♂️😉
If someone is going to use the road / pavement in an unsafe manner they are going to use the road / pavement in an unsafe manner regardless of any training, assessment or other…IMO
@@smilerbob bear in mind many of the scooter riders are young adults who have perhaps never had any training in bike riding, never mind driving a motor vehicle.
I’d like to see compulsory retesting of car drivers every ten years too. I’m open minded and consider myself a reasonably safe and considerate driver but I’m still learning something useful every time I watch one of Ashley’s videos. They bring up points I’d never even considered.
Imagine if everyone on the road had that same opportunity and attitude.
I'd say compulsory training for all road users. about every three years in school ought to be about right.
An interesting ideas, but given that all the people riding privately owned e-scooters anywhere other than on private land are already breaking UK law, do you really think they'd bother with compulsory training?
I would happily buy one, if I could use it legally. They are a far more sensible way of moving one person than a tonne or two of car.
At 4:11 I would’ve most likely let the van go first after that little adjustment with the narrowing. Then again, I was never quick on a bike so would always try to let traffic go ahead whenever I could
And just like that the next clip is a prime example of allowing traffic to proceed ahead 👍 although I would’ve been a little further out and then tucked in at the end of the parked cars
I did think of that, but I think given the situation it would've put the cyclist at more risk if they'd let the van past, plus I think the van driver was more than happy with letting them get on ahead.
@@jakescustoms Agreed and not saying they were wrong at all, just my way of doing things when I was on two wheels. To be honest, I was usually panting and wheezing whenever I stopped anywhere on my bike so was always grateful for the break 😉
I do miss it occasionally and wish I could still be on them for a Sunday exploration somewhere but alas the body, or more specifically the legs, are failing me and wouldn’t be happy if I did
@@smilerbob I'm always grateful for red traffic lights on a bike, they give me a break!
@@smilerbob Haha! I get that too sometimes, I cycle on a very hilly area and have to constantly go up multiple hills so I'm grateful when I get caught up on a narrow road and have to let a car past.
Hello Ashley . When i'm filtering i try and make shure the last vehicle i passed can see me ,rather than go on and be stopped along side the next vehicle who can't.
Ashley, I think your content is top notch and we should all be making the roads a safer place. Keep up the good work.
I've added my comment also today to vent my frustration and question if more reforms are needed on the roads. So to my story.
This morning I was walking my dog with my young daughter (6). Our village is set a long a fairly busy road on a hill but there are no footpaths (It has plenty of visibility as it's not a windy road). As we walking around 2 parked cars a large group of cyclists (approx 20) in single to 2 abreast, came down the hill and all passed us closely (if I had stuck my arm out I would have hit them) at speed. My daughter was petrified and started crying. I shouted at them to slow down but was ignored. We carried on up past the car to get a bit safer and calm her down. Behind the cars is a speed awareness sign and the next group were recorded doing 41mph. Not 1 of them slowed down or even turned around to make sure everything was ok even though they saw her crying, saw them passing us closely and me shouting to slow down. The speed limit is 30mph.
I know there is no speed limit for cyclists but this just seems plain wrong. Our road is a hot spot for cycling groups and I've seen many a narrow accident as residents leave their driveways either by car or foot. I'm also fully aware that this is a vehicle issue also but should cyclists have to by law have a Speedo fitted and not exceed the limit? A bike can do a lot of damage at those speeds and feels so wrong to me that it's acceptable by law. I doubt it would stop people from breaking the speed limit but hopefully it would make people think more about their actions.
I think there is a great distinction that can be made here, and that is there are ‘people who ride bikes’ and those who are ‘cyclists’. The former generally being people who don’t wear helmets, on rented bicycles, wearing a delivery bag on their back, and/or illegal battery powered moped/“bicycle”. Generally speaking it’s these people who give cyclists a bad name, and the reason much of the public hate them. It’s these people you often see that don’t follow the rules or show consideration.
As you watch a fellow driver sitting in lane 2 of the motorway in front of you not overtaking anyone, or a driver on the phone, or a driver breaking the speed limit, do you think to yourself, that carist is giving me and all other carists a bad name? No? Why not?
Cyclists aren't some homogenous group. They're people getting around, and it doesn't matter what they choose to wear or how they carry their bags or whether they own or have rented their transport. Like carists and vannists and lorryists, some do it better than others, the fundamental difference is that the consequence of a mistake on their part rarely results in another's loss of life or extensive damage to property which you see with almost all motor vehicle incidents.
When I'm on my bike or in my car, I don't represent my fellow carists and cyclists, and they don't represent me.
I’d love see Ashley say “non event” when he’s mangled though his spokes
What is wrong with you?
@@AndrewStride as a proper cyclist I’m sick of our lives being so trivial to motorists
@@leenevin8451 as a proper cyclist I think it's over the top to wish death upon someone you don't know on the internet. You might not agree with everything he says but surely you must see he is trying to care about all road users - if you let the red mist fade, that is.
I stopped cycling a couple of years ago. As I'm now rich and can afford a nice car. However, whilst poor, in twenty years of cycling not one person ever passed me. Ever.
What nobody ever overtook you?
I find people who tell everyone they are rich generally aren't
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling 🤣🤣
Good on you if you have made some money. However, if you live in London as your name suggests you’ll surely know that in most cases driving is simply the inferior way of getting around. Not only is it polluting (both the air and in terms of noise) and ruins road surfaces very quickly, but it’s extremely slow and expensive. I have a car, but I almost always choose my nice E-bike, which gets me far more reliably to my destination!
Nothing but good physical and mental health can make you rich. Driving a car in London won't help with that.
A simple bit of common sense by everyone is all that's required 👌🏻