Can I heal my torn ROTATOR CUFF?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2011
- Chad Madden, Physical Therapist, discusses the potential healing of a torn rotator cuff.
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Short and down to the point, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for making this video!
I fell on my shoulder years ago, and broke my collar bone. Never got the help I needed, and have injured it further since. Some times more pain, and sometimes less. Right now, because of pts like you, I'm understanding what's going on, and what I can do. So much better. It may never be totally right, but I might get by with exercises and self treatment. Thank you so much.
This is such a wonderful video. I have this and I am preparing to start looking for a good PT to help me!
Just a hunch, but I imagine stress would close the subacromial space too. Pressing one's elbow on a chair arm-rest would seemingly close the space as well. Story: About 4-5 years ago a sales rep told me he had an operation to repair a rotator cuff due to weight lifting. I remember the conversation, because I experience some pain in my shoulder as well as the infraspinatus of the clavicle. Just now I experimented stretching my arm downward and I sensed a bit of relief. Based on my experimenting just now, this type of physical therapy seems legitimate. What I always remember about the sales rep was that he said the rotator cuff can heal by itself. My personal belief is that if you can avoid the knife DO SO.
Thanks for this video. Well explained.
Amazing! The best explanation on this topic around! Short, comprehensive and simple. Thx.
thank u.great video and very informative
very good job at explaining thanks
thanks for sharing this video. your visual the drawing of the rotator cuff is helpful. i am learning about this part of the body and working on exercises to get my full range of motion back. the physio hurts but i do my home exercises and i can feel some changes. thank you.
The best explanation and the best exercises
I have this injury at the moment
Thank you so much for all the Information, thats was so useful. keep up Doc.
Thank you so much I loved it
This video is highly informative. Thank you.
Thank you, you're videos are a great help. Especially because i'm a PT student at the moment.
Thanks this helped me 4 years ago and now it’s the other side.
Amazing info that gives us hope. Than you so
Much!
thank you for your input - I will question my PT guy when next I see him. Been going twice a week for the last two and a half weeks. Might even carefully ask about my thoracic outlet as a possibility :) He isn't of the opinion that my thumb pain is of any consequence, but I have to say - hurts like the dickens anyway. Appreciate the options you've provided - now at least I have a direction to go with this!
thanks for the info. I visited my doc. today and also had x-rays done; and based on his evaluation, he said it seemed like a pinched nerve due to "not so good" posture and bad sleeping position. Hopefully it's not too serious but anyways thank you!
Great Video
On my 5th week back with weights seeing great gains muscle memory is awesome I'm actually almost back to where I was 5 months ago and only hit chest once but shoulder feels good been really working out the back rear delts side delts of course arms & legs then hit chest and feeling good. My injury is more of a muscle tightness & nerves little pinched I'm still stYing away from a few lifts like not doing presses over head but I don't need to hell u hit shoulders all the time I'm at the good sore level now
Thanks! I really appreciate it. hope others could learn as well.
I have a similar case as istra here. Pain comes from the back of the shoulder and whenever I do bench press or overhead shoulder workouts there's the clicks and pain hurts like stain.
I initially hurt my shoulder doing bench press.. And that was already 6 yrs ago. Went to a few physicians and trainers and none could identify and provide me with a solution.
I'll be grateful for any more tips I really want it fixed and not have it haunt me later down the road.. Thanks!!!
Thanks for the quick response! I will do that.
I really like your videos I tore my rotator cuff and I'm trying to avoid surgery..thanx for the tips👍
I tore mine initially about a year ago, but was able to deal with most limitations, then a few months after, I felt and heard it tear again while mountain biking. Then, about four months ago, I tripped going upstairs and hurt it worse than ever, but don’t recall hearing it tear again. It’s not my primary shoulder, so I can deal with the limitations. I think I’m ready to begin exercising again and want to strengthen the muscles around the area. I’m curious how you’ve come along?
My husband had the same thing with weakness and minimal pain. We thought it was rotator cuff tear too. After he had the EMG test, it turned out to be neck disc impinging the nerves to the shoulder. After the MRI, it was discovered the disc was rubbing on disc. He had an insertion of small round cadaver bone placed inbetween the discs and now he can move his arm without any weakness. Explore that possibility. In order to have the procedure, weakness and pain is the criteria.
Your video gives me hope. What's the name of the treatment/manipulation/manual technique that I should ask a physical therapist to do to increase the subacrominal space? Thanks.
A really good massage therapist with advanced training and experience can also help this injury, as I've done it with many myself. In other videos with PTs and orthorpedic surgeons state pointedly that any tear to the rotator cuff will not heal because it's not designed to do so. Thanks for stating a person can heal their RC tear, unless it's a severe tear. According to statistics worldwide, many rotator cuff surgeries fail, so I am happy to hear your version & I totally agree! {:D
Good information.....I just started shock wave therapy for my two tears. It has helped. I’m hoping with the therapy and physical therapy I will be able to avoid surgery. I pray for a miraculous healing everyday 🙏🏻✝️❤️
Saw doctor. Apparently my shoulder X-ray was fine. He wants to order an MRI next & some blood work. This video gives me hope that whatever is wrong with my shoulder can be repaired without surgery. My concern is that if I don't get treatment soon, it will worsen the problem. It's been three weeks. Sleeping, dressing, brushing my hair or teeth, cooking, doing dishes, driving, and so on, all are very painful. I'm older so maybe I've just worn it out. I don't know what happened to it.
Thanks for your answer :) I'll let the healing process do it's job !
I hope you can help me with my shoulder problem. Recently, I've been doing calisthenics, and after a month of it, I started doing wall-pushups specifically for a week. During the time, I use to sleep on my arms/ and at times in an abducted position. Soon, i started to notice a sensation that my right shoulder felt somewhat lower and imbalanced compared to the left, which felt perfectly stable. The right shoulder-joint area feels weird around the deltoids and the muscles connecting to the chest
Hi, my rotator cuff does hurt when i do the things u talked about, reaching overhead, driving etc. i also feel a pull when i turn my head to the right (injuried shoulder). sometimes i can feel it pull from behind my right ear, through my right trapezius, through the shoulder and further down my ribcage/lats. it is even visible in my neck, it looks like a tendon pushing through/out to the side. my neck is actually giving me more problems in daily life than the shoulder.
Thanks for this excellent video - i don't really condone self-diagnosis but it certainly helps to educate oneself!
Hi! Could you show us or refer to specific exercises we can do at home to open up the space between the two bones? I can't really afford to see a physical therapist but I can do exercises. Thank you very much!
Slight shoulder pain started appx 5 years ago while bench pressing, However, 2 yrs ago I was throwing a ball and started feeling extreme sharp pain in my shoulder and forearm.
Went to an orthepedic surgeon got an MRI it revealed no tears to my RC. He gave me a cortizone shot in my forearm and shoulder. The forearm pain went away but the shoulder pain remains. I can dig down and and feel the inflammed muscle / tendon below the cluster of muscles that connects the top of my shoulder to my arm.
That's made my injury really clear now thank you. I'm a martial artist with a background in boxing and javelin and a slight build so I've hammed my shoulders over the years. I'll be taking your advice and also visiting a physio.
Spent last few hours looking at videos & stretching.It hurts on top-outside shoulder exactly under acromium with "behind back" stretch. The hurt feels good & it stretches out. However, there is pain & 15 deg limitation on internal & ext rotation at any position & I can see that scapula move more for any arm position relative to unaffected side, so it seems like adhesive capsulitis, except I can raise arm almost vertically, w/ pain. Strength everywhere is good. Stretch int & ext rot = no change
Great video. I think I may have torn mine.
thank you
This guy is on point on everything!!!! Omg
This video has given me hope. Thank you!
Jordan Glenn . I had impingement surgery at 30. 2 years later doing everything by the book and I’m still in pain. Had a mri last week. And I have 2 rotator tears narrowing (to 5mm) and fluid on my bursa. Not sure what the surgery accomplished other than more pain. That surgery that’s being referenced in this video should be a last stitch attempt only.
what kind of exercises would you recommend doing to strengthening that area of weakness?
Can you show what those techniques are used by therapists and what exercises I can perform.
I know this is really old, but it is extremely encouraging and helpful. Thank you.
I was doing chest press with 60lb dumbells and my right shoulder pretty much gave out. Neck's not tight when I turn it to the right (injured shoulder) but i do feel a pull around my trap/neck when i turn to the left. Also that area cramps up when I run. Yes I am a side sleeper, and no my PT really just massages the area and goes over how im doing the exercises.
where do you work dear i want to visit for my shoulder. i feel like you are talking about the same issue i have
My injury prevents me from lifting weights, throwing or push ups can i rehab my shoulder to do these things again?
I did the same year of the injury, I wasn't in my country, I was in a foreign country.. so the foreign doctor said I had tendonitis. 5 years later my shoulder still suffers from popping thus bringing pain, and I try to stretch it, and my left shoulder just hurts right near at the Bursa area. I do workout with it and do use resistant bands for lifting and resistance for my shoulder. It hurts most when I straighten my elbow and do the resistance exercise, it hurts and my shoulder gives out smetims
I was doing the ab wheel recently when in full entension felt my shoulder give out. I have had discomfort since and at times it has been painful. I don't have health insurance so I can't go to a doctor or PT, so I have been trying to figure out what my injury is - At first I thought a deltoid strain but now I believe it to be the rotator cuff. I can still do pushups, and bicep curls but can't do the wheel or shoulder presses. Been using Ben Gay, ice & Alieve. Is it ok for me to continue lifting?
Good Video , Ive had an ongoing problem for quite a while , pain in the Rotator cuff area after weights sessions , and tendonitis ,
Last month or two it got worse , I rested it for a while , but the pain is still around , doctor told me I should look into a Cortisone shot , the guy that gave the shot under ultrasound a week ago told me I have a small tear . But said they dont repair and I may need surgery . I have not had any other opinions yet , but going by your video and reading the comments here , I may be ok with treatment ?
I tripped going up the stairs last week and I went to catch myself on a stair but my fingers brushed past the step I was going for and fell to the lower step. My arm buckled underneath me and bent in a weird way. it feels better now but not 100% still some pain in the front of the shoulder
Thank you for this useful information
Dr, can you kindly prescribe some medicines for these kind of symptoms, pls.
I have this issue since few months. Underwent x-ray, MRI & also eventually physiotherapy for a week. Ofcourse took medicines too. But yet no effect but for expenditure I had.. So kly help for the people like me plssss🙏🙏
I did the empty can, hawkins and I can't remember the other one... my rotator cup starting hurting 30 minutes ago... when I move it my forearm aches.. is this temporary or do i need help?
thanks for this very informative
I have partial thickness tear in supraspinatus ligament. Can i heal it naturally
Ok I found the pdf with the exercises but I would still like to read your opinion on which is the most likely injury that affects me, thanks
Sorry if this was already asked but any suggestions for type/brand of band to purchase?
is it a full tear if your arm dislocates abit while sleeping in that position you showed? at times i'll wake up with my arm asleep also but it hasn't happened since summer ene
*You can try programs like the one in **_Treat Your Own Rotator Cuff_** at Amazon - some can be pretty effective.*
Thank you very much...But do you think its worth doing any PT for now just to see if it works? The exercises I've seen online don't bother me to do, there is no pain.
You don't need hands-on physical therapy for a minor rotator cuff injury. I've learned this in my years. My first time I did it, did what the doctors said, and realized that after learning what to do and how to fix it, going into a physical therapist is useless when you can do the same basic things at home. Sure, if your insurance pays for it, go for it, but there is NO reason to pay to go to someone for stretching when you can do it at home. Plenty of youtube videos from doctors showing you the exercises to do at home. It usually takes 3 months of stretching (forward, sideways, behind the back) to get your muscles stretched out for full range of motion. Minor tears heal up in about a week, it's just painful after that. You need to stretch to get the muscles back into order.
james friel if it’s only a minor tear which is what I think I have would I be able to go back weightlifting after a week
I had a 50 percent tear with pt it began to heal after 8 months ..my pt tech was great..the best...
What's the update on it?
No issues anymore and no surgery
Do you have an opinion/good rehab techniques for a revers bankart lesion? I've had it for a few years and surgery is currently out of the question. It causes me a lot of discomfort in my shoulder and arm, any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Sir during gym my shoulder go back and a pop sound I hear after that. I have pain in my shoulder and what I do
Hi there, i've had this injury for nearly 2 years or so, i train alot with calisthenics and martial arts and i guess i must have done something a while back, the symptoms i have and today i must have slept on my right shoulder funny, i have a locked sternum and usually i can pop it back into place but today its sore on the right side and it wont click fully, i guess its inflamed. When i move my head to the left i feel a pull on my right back which is slightly painful coming from under my scapula
Can't find exercises for this problem in any of your videos
I have an assignment about rotator cuff tendopathy (RCT), while I am searching, I am confused between impingement syndrome (IS) and the RCT, are they related and connected? the RCT is caused by IS, is that correct? and Please if you can explain the key intrinsic and extrinsic risk factors for rotator cuff tendinopathies in biomechanics
I have a full thickness near complete width tear of my right rotator cuff. I've had 4 PT treatments which consists of stretching only.
Wrist curls, tilting my neck from side to side and back to front, dangling my arm from side to side with rotation, shoulder blade squeezing.
Manual manipulation from the physical therapist with a bend elbow extended straight, outward and above my head rotation.
The exercises are brutal and the following days I'm in so much pain that I don't want to return for next appointment.
The orthopedic Surgeon has recommended PT for 6 to 8 weeks if the pain does not improve then surgery. I'm a 65 yr. old woman.
Any recommendations? Thank you
Hi. I'd like to ask you a question about my shoulder and my rotator cuff « injury » / « inflammation ». I never had any shoulder or rotator cuff injury/inflammation in the past before. 3 days ago, I went to the gym and did my usual set of Pec Deck. I stretched a little bit too much during my set and after I had an unusual pain in my left shoulder. The pain is slowly going away, but when I do specific movement ( like the pec deck movement ), I can hear some noise in my shoulder ( cric/crac )
i have this and it looks like my collar bone is sticking up and to be honest i have just found out more about it here than i did at my doctors.
When you said you could go back to normal usage, i am a boxer and at the mo i have lost my power shot and the overhand right, is there anything i can do ?
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last month i had complete shoulder ligament trear, and doctors suggested surgery, can my problem can be treated without surgery ? i cant lift my arm . please reply
I have had soreness and a small twinge around where my side deltoid and arm meet when putting my arm in certain positions. This has been going on for 2 weeks. I did this while taking off my jacket really fast during a musical performance. Can this cause a tear in the rotator cuff?
If the studies show that I have the supraspinatus tendon broken by 1cm of the rotator cuff, is it possible that It can be healed with therapies and exercises? or I should necessary have a surgery?
I have been for an MRI scan on my shoulder after a injury from playing cricket, I am an opening bowler who over did it playing a 2day game & bowled more than 25overs. The MRI scan was inconclusive of a rotator cuff tear after comparing my right arm which i bowl with compared to my left arm. this was 2 years ago.. I haven't been to the physio nor have i done any recovery techniques/movements since the MRI scan.im 23yrs old, I know for certain that I've done damage that I fear is permanent.
I was using a resistance band when my injury occurred. I am feeling pain not only in my shoulder but my arm. My forearm throbs in pain and a painfil pins and needles sensation sometimes travelling to my fingers. I also experience pain in my lower back of the shoulder blade. I saw my doctor yesterday and I received a 5 minute (or less) diagnosis of an injured rotater cuff along RX for tylenol3. Any recommendations besides getting a new doctor (which I am going to do)?
I have been playing baseball nonstop for about 2 months, what do you suggest I do.
Is doing wall slides three times a day everyday of the week over kill? or is it ok to do some with impingement?
Thanks for the information. In my case the pain raises when I try bench press. I would appreciate if you can provide some details in my case.
Same here....I feel it in my right shoulder when I do dumbbell presses.
just went to the site and couldn't find the videos. Could you post a link? Thanks very much.
and back region. I also noticed that when I turned or rotated my right shoulder away, it makes a crackling sound. And finally I feel tension in my neck muscle/area connected to the right shoulder. There isn't any pain but this weird, imbalanced and lowered sensation of my right shoulder. Are these symptoms of a serious injury? And if yes, is there an approach to heal it?
its directly under my body. and i have no health insurance so the pt in my area will be expensive. i just do my own pt at my house. i do rotatoe cuff exercise and band pulls. and stretch out my shoulder. wish i had health insurance. also thanks for the info.
funny enough i been sleeping on my stomach for the past month and shoulder seems to have improved SLIGHTLY. hoping this success keeps on going! i get pain when i do towel shoulder stretch. thats the only thing that causes me ache
How are you now?
Madden, would appreciate any feedback you could offer... where you are pointing at 1:28 - this is where I have some pain, it feels tight/tender and if I push into that area, it is tender to touch, but just in that small area, however, I have full ROM and work on mobility/flexibility every day I train, any ideas what this is?
thank you for your reply! I have taken the last 2 days easy and focused solely on rotator cuff exercises and the pain/tenderness has dumbed down a bit. I will seek help from a physio if things do not improve :)
hey.... i had a injury in my shoulder while playing... the doctors said that i had a slight muscle tear on the cushioning muscle in the shoulder. is there anything you can help me with.?
I too have the same pain. Been a while. ried PT and cortisone. Minimal relief. Two MRIs . one says subscap tear 4mm and solid labrum. the other said labrum tear and solid sub scap. I will try your suggestions. I was leaning toward scoping the shoulder. I only goto sports docs because i am big guy. and normal ROM tests dont indicate as im strong as hell. the most pain is when hand on opposite shoulder and i raise the elbow up. stars
I have had shiulder pain for year it seams to me as if my shoulder is loos you can pull in it and it will feel as it is getting streched what hhould that be thanks
I hope you can give me some advice. i injured myself lifting weights like in december of last year. i still have pain when i workout. when i injured myself my arm was pulled backwards and when i stood up. my shoulder was popping out and i decided to put it back in place. tomorrow i will stop lifting weights and boxing. and see if acupuncture will help. hope to hear back from you.
What if once in a while your shoulder or torn rotator cuff makes a pop sound? As mine does
I am 16 and messed my shoulder by trying to land double front on my trampoline and opened up and after first front and the landed on the metal bars of the trampoline and killed me it was the worst pain ever I can barley move my shoulder and have serious problems and it's only been 2 days this sucks
Fell on my shoulder while skiing, hurt when it happened and my shoulder was swollen for 4 days, and it hurt to move my arm up, straight out, or to the side, all at a certain extent. And I couldn't pick up anything heavy. Now it is 10 days since it happened and there's no swelling, the front of my shoulder into the top of my right peck is yellow from healing broken blood vessels, but I feel a slight tightness in my shoulder when I'm not moving it, and I feel a slight pain now when I lift my arm up. It hurts also when I take my shirt off over my head. To test the pain I found that it hurts when I hold my right hand with my left hand and try to pull both hands apart. The pain is in the top of my shoulder up to my collarbone, and i feel pressure in the back of my shoulder. Is this where a rotator cuff injury would be? I just want to know what I did to my damn shoulder lol
This is so me! Omg! This happened to me after I worked out at the gym about a month ago and I've
Been in pain ever since. Went for xrays last week and still waiting for results. It hurts so bad. Especially when it's cold.
please let us know the results of xray ..thank you
what's the difference between a Torn Rotator Cuff and Tendonitis? thank you
My MRI shows a 90% tear and labral fraying. My doctor said I can try PT but I will probably need surgery in the future. My main pain is sleeping on my right side. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance and I really appreciate your video.
Great, thanks for the response
I too have the pain when throwing a baseball, I pitched from around the age of 8 to 17 then stopped for 10 years. Once I started again the pain didnt come right away but about the 3rd game in it did, without any pitching, just normal throwing to get my arm back in shape. It only hurts when making a throwing motion and if I lift my arm over my head. Should I stop throwing all together or will the correct stretches/exercises work?
ok rc tear signs include ffriction between shoulder bones, weakness in upper and lower humeral head and some amount of pectoral muscle pain i did surgery on mine about a year ago my supraspinatus still hasnt healed completely
if i have bursitis or tendonitis can it heal itself, i have been having pain for a long time, however you said before injection will help pain but not solve issue. the issue is mainly front part of shoulder and i suspect its from overtraining chest over the years.
Hi my MRI shows Thick tear for 1cm. Doc suggest surgery. Can I avoid surgery
can i safely increase my subcronial space myself by Gently decompressing my own ball joint? i can hold my arm with my legs and GENTLY stretch it apart. Once there, i would need to know which movements to make.........i am use to decompression since the 80's with an inversion table...........advice?