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U so fast
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Good job Darkdecideueye , you really Pinned the problem down.
Old Australian man yells at people for not dying
Good summation.
How?
@@GrandLineReview uncosmics your brownies
@@Kaiselof I'm using this , sir
@@Kaiselof unhoneys your buns
"I thought they were dead."
Oda: Their death was... greatly exaggerated.
Is that a MeGaMiNd ReFeReNcE?
I hope the live action keep them dead
So... You're that punk I've heard about.
From a certain point of view
@@samgarner36 man that is an old reference and I still hate that weaseling out of lying that Obi did.
I like how half of these characters only come back to life in the Coverpages so Anime only people get to keep their deaths.
I actually dont read cover pages so I thought some of those characters genuinely died lol
Untill the story gets to the point where those cover pages pay off
@@shirotako6249 A lot of what people think is anime filler is actually cover page stories. Like Buggys adventure after fighting Luffy.
@@yesterdayschunda1760 and coby and helmeppo's entire training arc from being janitors to being garps apprentices
@@yesterdayschunda1760 wait what, so they aren't?
"People live when they are killed."
- Oda, probably
3 years later: Ace and Whitebeard are revealed to still be alive
as Gecko Moria zombies
.
@LOGAN WEBSTER that would be ridiculous
And they were saved by Zombie Gol D Roger
@@SomeTexan who resurrected all flashback deaths with his devilfruit ability
Anyone remember that one time Luffy tells Jinbe "Even if you die, don't die"
Yeah..I do😂😂
Luffy knows what series he's in.
@@williamturner6192 lmaoooo
@@williamturner6192 I would give you another like but its currenty at the funny number so I cant
Oda: *writes death scene*
GLR: You’re not that guy pal, trust me you’re not that guy
Nice
What’s GLR?
@@MonkeyDNaruto12 grand line review
The Pound "death" really pissed me off. Oda needs to stop these fake out deaths. It adds nothing to the story, and only ruins tension for future battles, because now no matter how dramatic a Death, I won't care because that death will amount to nothing.
It also totally undermines a really emotional part of the story on retrospect and rereads. Now when I reread WCI That scene will just be meaningless while before I really liked it. Pound being alive retroactively made WCI worse for me.
And then when characters finally DO die we will have to be skeptical if it is another fake out making that death lose its possible emotional impact .
@@yanvorona2808 bon clay not being dead makes total sense I thought he was just being captured and being thrown in even worse torture and maybe being stuck in a level 5 cell like ace, crocmom and jinbe were
So I never got a vibe he was dieing
And any last words is a thing people say to people going to jail lol
As for the kinomon one that did make me mad I'm glad he is alive tho just they could have played off his liveing better maybe say he had law cut him in half again and the top half was just his devil fruit powers disguise placed on his legs and thats what was cut off
And all that time he was talking it was literally out of his butt lol
Instead of oh I guess you guys didnt put me back together properly and somehow they perfectly cut me at the exactly the same angle and spot that law did
Pound I dont even remember dieing so maybe it's just cause i figured he would be fine somehow so i didnt think much of his death so didnt even realize it was a "death" lol
I do remember yelling at them to go back for him cause i really really wanted to see him reunite with his daughters so I'm glad that thos cover storys are there I've been loveing them
This
Pound's death was one of the best scenes of Whole Cake alongside Katakuri's final question to Luffy l'd still rank it below the scene of Pudding crying in the alley because this one recontextualized the entire arc and was probably the single most gut wrenching moment of the entire series. Sanji and her better god damn end together).
The idea of a father happily sacrificing his life to save the daughter he never could take in his arms and the grandson he will never be able to see grow up even if said daughter don't know who he is and why he sacrificed himself but he's still happy to oblige. This is really powerful stuff and one truly wonderful scene which I actually believed because he was a character minor enough to let die ........ but no, no he had to survive and meet his daughters and live happily ever after. F you, this scene was perfect and made for a really good and touching arc, this post credit ruins this entirely
I tbink he needs to stop havibng luffy beat the villain the same way. Hell get beat up they say some shit he gets mad and then gets bigger and somehow faster and somehow the villain cant dodge then the villain does one final power up and luffy just makes his attacks bigger
If Pell doesn't do anything for the rest of the series. I'm gonna assume the Pell we see after his death is Vivi hallucinating.
As is bon curry being alive.
I actually love this theory, what if some of these death are hallucinations
LMAOOOOO
@@marocat4749 except bon clay is based so he gets to live
Pell deserves to die with all that heroic speech they did, even Kinemon deserves that death scene cause his speech were magnificent and totally make sense, idk what oda is planning with these characters and why his giving them more plot armour than the main characters, I swear the whole planet could blow and they suddenly survive on a another planet chilling. Mane I'm tryna see some deaths oda cmon
"Death has no presence in One Piece"
*Brook sips tea in the corner*
Yo ho ho ho
*sad yo ho ho ho*
Flashback land doesn't count
Honestly my biggest issue with this is that I never feel any tension or the feeling of something being at stake in this show, because I just keep thinking "yeah no, theres no way any major interesting character is going to die", and then when it does happen (fe Pedro), im just like "oh ok so he comes back in like 20 chapters" and just forget that he actually dies.
Pell in Alabasta, the dad in Skypiea, the dude surviving Big Mom. Those are the worst offendeds imo.
@Jrlokerfloorx How about Kinemon getting hit by a ACoC attack on the head by Kaido, and then sliced in half with a sword, but still surviving? Or how about Guernica, the CP0 member who Kaido "killed"? He is alive too because of the cover story in the manga, and the fact that he sent the G5 Luffy picture to the World Government.
It's literally every arc:
- Merry in Syrup Village (got killed by Klahadore, came back to life)
- Gin in Baratie (got poisoned to death, came back to life)
- Pell in Alabasta (survived a nuke)
- Pagaya in Skypiea (survived that huge lightning bolt)
- Spandam in Enies Lobby (robin snapped his spine, came back to life)
- Hogback in Thriller Bark (got stomped on by zombie oars, came back to life)
I could keep going.
"You didn't save my life, you ruined my death!"
Actually l, with what we now know.... Probably true xD
He ruined the perfect death Pell had
@@Jrlokerfloorx As Scott McNeil once said when recording his death scene for Dinobot:
"Do you mind!? I'm trying to die here!"
Brook: i have the power to revive myself
Everyone: Ok and so what
????????????????
You dropped that 👑
Brook: yohohoho
But couldnt moria theorethically to trick his shado in himself and become an undead a well?!
"I love One Piece, but I hate this."
You have my attention.
Bro he has said this hundreds of times..
@@MisaelMatute76bro... What if this is his 1st video watched?
@@Essex121514 Then he wouldnt be surprise that Grandline doesn't like a certain aspect of One Piece...
MisaelMatute76 he wouldn't be surprised if this is not his GLR videos
Our*
The one thing I'm glad I was spoiled for in One Piece is Ace's death. My first experience of One Piece was watching Punk Hazard with my sister, and to satisfy my curiousity about Luffy and Law's relationship, my sister told me that "Law saved Luffy after Luffy's brother died." So when I started watching from the beginning and eventually met Ace, I knew he was going to die for real. The reason I'm glad that I knew ahead of time is because I could cry in full heartbreak when the experience went down. I've had the exact same qualms about Oda and his "deaths" where my emotions are mute and skeptical, but luckily, I was able to feel the full weight of Ace's death right from the beginning.
Honestly same, because I knew for sure ace was gonna die (because I got that spoiled for me well before I started the series) I cried my eyes out at the death
Why is everyone writing paragraphs
I loved Pounds semi death. The concept of a character making a sacrifice that no one will ever recognise the reason or intent is so good.
Person: is introduces in flashback
Death: ah sh*t, here we go again
Yup here we go again
True
Pedro: I don't have such weaknesses
"Three Whole Cakes"
That's like, one short of an island.
But it ain't the whole cake.
To this day i'm still waiting for a Monet and Vergo cover story.
The Slimy adventures of Monet and Vergo.
(There's Slime too, even though its sole thing was dying)
About bon clay, I always thought magellan beat him and throw him on a cell in which he escaped to level 5.5.
At least is plausible unlike the others
The problem is Bon Clay was responsible for letting Luffy and ton of notorious pirates pass through the gates of justice. By doing so, he ruined the reputation of impel down and the marines. Magellan killed a lot of prisoners the day Luffy escaped. There’s no reason why Impel down and it’s staff should have allowed Bon Clay to live.
@@jaberwasp1925 i don’t really mind him living just because it’s bon clay and i see him becoming queen as a better end to his character
@@thighcrush3640 I don’t want him to die either because I like his character. It’s just me and many other people’s opinion that Magellan not killing him when he had the chance to off the man responsible for letting luffy and others go even though he has authority to execute prisoners is bad writing by Oda.
@@jaberwasp1925 it’s not that i don’t want him to die i just like the gag of him constantly surviving and making it to a kingdom full of people just like him
Emiya Shiro: People die when they are killed
Oda: No.
It was NEVER implied that Moria died, Mihawk didn't believe the news when he was talking with Perona, and Doflamingo himself said that Moria escaped, so it was implied back then that he wasn't dead
Plus moments after Moscato died mont d or said to go to retrieve hus souls back, or hogback being more of a gag scene
And Bon Clay was in Impel Down and it made sense for him to be taken in as prisoner again.
@@phelps6205 I've got two points for you.
1 It doesn't.
2 He isn't even a prisoner.
He literally helped cause the biggest break-out in the history of Impel Down. Magellan was more than ready to kill Luffy when he hadn't even done anything besides break IN. Not even OUT.
Why would Magellan not be ready to kill Bon after he was the sole reason the whole break-out even succeeded?
You know, forget all of that. Magellan fucking killed random no-name prisoners. That dude's a maniac. He no doubt wanted to kill Bon, because he has definitely killed for less.
Plus, Bon ain't a prisoner. He's the queen of 5.5, which wouldn't be anything that Magellan would allow. Basically, he may be a 'prisoner', but he's living free in prison.
So yeah, if Bon doesn't come back in the main series, he stays dead in my headcanon.
@@thomaspluijm4396 Bon is the one "fake death" I think has good possibilities for the future. Since it would be awesome to see New World Luffy casually break into Impel Down just to say hi to Bon Clay. But you are absolutely right that he should be dead, Magellan literally told Bon Clay to say his last words.
@@thomaspluijm4396 I feel like Magellan intended to kill Bon but underestimated his strength and didn’t use deadly enough poison. Probably left him for dead and that’s how he got away/got an antidote. It’s not completely out of the realm of possibility like with Pell, and Bon is still serving a purpose in the story in keeping potential allies within impel down.
I'm gonna be real here, I don't mind that Bon-chan isn't dead. He is just too epic to die.
Same , in fact I didn’t expect his death, I thought he would be captured by Magellan. He sacrificed so that his friend can escape, I don’t think his death will add more drama
@@donrog5035 Yeah but that's the point: Oda shouldn't turn it in an ambiguous way to make some people believe a character died yet that's what he does.
I also don't like drama for the sake of drama; in the case of Bon-chan, having to stay in Impel Down was more than enough, especially in a story where one of the main themes is FREEDOM.
So why leading us to believe he could be dead just to pull the "Haha no I was just joking" card later ?
Like GLR stated, it only hurts the story in the long run.
@@Falgor62 I don’t know why you thought he was dead, it never occurred to me that he will die. So I can’t really relate to this sentiment
Daz Bones was stated to be “killed” by Zoro according to Smoker (could just be English dub tho)
@@donrog5035 exactly they didnt show him getting shot,poisoned, or stabbed just captured and told "any last words" (somthing a prison guard or various other persons would say to a prisoner just before being locked away forever )
So there was no indication he was actually going to die just locked away in that hell and probably given a special torture treatment for a good couple years
The pettiness of that mini game is literally giving me life LMAO!
Fans: so I noticed that this character has been beaten and doesn’t look like he’ll live
Oda: yup
Fans: and you made a memorable scene where he theoretically died?
Oda: yup
Fans: then if that’s the case, then they have died.
Oda: that makes sense to me…
Fans: then admit it
Oda: bUt He DiDnT dIe!
I love this Spongebob meme format
Lmao
Bruh this meme is too accurate 😂💀
LMFAO 😭
Aarlong
I can’t stand the fake deaths! There’s no sense of actual danger and I know everyone will be safe all the time….
That’s why I stoped loving one piece as much!
I understand the Moscato death reversal, his "death" scene showed us how frightening Big Mom is, but also how her children maintain her empire. How does she lead an empire if she lacks the self control to not kill her own kids? Her kids fix everything.
That makes a lot of sense
It's shown that katakuri secretly hopes for big moms fall as she's a danger to her emenies and allies. Big mom is just a figure head of the big mom pirates. Kata is the driving force
@@richardtownsend3479 with whats happened in the manga thats honestly huge really and i cant believe i didnt realise
Ace: dies.
Oda: I'll just create blonde Ace!
Accuracy
Except that Sabo's existence was already foreshadowed way before Ace's execution arc. Ace's tattoo, as well as the third cup's shadow, were just 2 of the prominent proofs that Oda already had Sabo planned down the line.
@@bayekofsiwa5847 Yeah I’ll give you that but giving Sabo the Mera Mera and making him some big shot revolutionary working under Dragon, makes him sound like a complete fan character.
@@JustSomeGuyWithBadDirections How does that even go down the fanfic route? Sure, Sabo right now isnt that interesting as a character but the eating of Ace's devil fruit could easily be connected with one of One Piece's prominent theme of "Inherited Will." And working for Dragon couldnt be more perfect for a son of royalty who was able to comprehend the evil of his own people and the Revolutionary Army are exactly the faction that directly addresses that concern. The only faction in One Piece that asks the people to rise and free themselves from their cruel monarchy.
It depends on how Oda writes Sabo's conclusion and character development, I HOPE he dosen't make him a second ace or some shit like that, let's bee positive and hopeful
TLDR: "People die when they are killed."
Oda: "Well yes, but actually no."
Lmaooo 😂
Oda: "well yes, but they only *appear* to have died"
What does TLDR mean?
@@alvinzaman6417 Too Long, Don't Read :)
@@mikirapz1169 I always thought it was "Too Long, Didn't Read." The difference is kinda nitpicky do....
I think Oda doesn't like killing his characters in general. He only kills when it's a flashback and when it's important to the main story, like Ace, Whitebeard, and even Pedro.
Cases like Pell, Pagaya, Pound, Bon chan are only important for their own story, their death are not going to change anything in the main story, not even in their respective arc. So maybe Oda thinks that he prefers these people to have a good ending, because they don't deserve to die. It is just my opinion
In my case, I have been reading OP since 2009 and when I read Ace's death I believed it (we saw his body and also the vivre card disappeared) but yes, I remember some people thought it was not true. Probably because they have been watching / reading the series for the longest time.
Anyway, I think because of this issue, the alleged kills of Kanjuro, kiku, and kinemon aren't that shocking.
A part of me thinks they really died, but I still can't believe it 100%.
:(
Is Pedro really dead though? I just have trouble believing it.
I once heard a joke about how Pedro, monet, and vergo were going to sail in on the merry during the final war and save the strawhats somehow and its hilarious just how scarily possible it sounds.
As a writer, I get this. Not every story is Attack on Titan, and not every writer is George R. R. Martin. Death doesn't automatically make it mature, and in some cases, it can even harm the story altogether.
A lot of people like to use death as a means of emotion in fiction, but it's much more complex than that. In some series like Dragon Ball, death may not mean the end of their character arc, or even the story. Heck, for most of the isekai genre, it means the beginning. For one character (like Kaido), death could be their entire motivation, while being left alive with shattered dreams could be a fate much worse than death.
@@KirbyLinkACW I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. Maybe you should tell that to oda though. Because its clear hes using these death scenes for emotion but then wimping out at the last minute for no discernable reason. Dont pretend to be martin and then not have the guts to follow through, you know what I'm saying?
@@lesanon919 I can agree with that. There are characters that exist whose role in a story is, specifically, to die, for emotional reasons or to push the plot. If you don't have it in you to see it through, only to say "haha, nevermind" without a good justification, then what's the point?
@@KirbyLinkACW I remember reading an SBS during syrup village where Oda said “The straw hats don’t kill anyone because in the one piece world their dreams are viewed higher then themselves” and the last bit reminded me of that
1030 this is so relevant 😆
Facts😭
Biggest Plot Twist : Gol D. Roger wasn't actually dead , he had eaten the Copy Copy no Mi Fruit so he send his copy to the execution and he successfully retired and stayed in Garp's house . In order that simple Minded Luffy doesn't leave the secret out , he wasn't told about it and was sent away to be brought up by the Mountain bandits .
I really want to see clone clone fruit where you can make your clones 👍
@@unlimitedgaming9123 and not spam it like a certain shonen big 3 retired ninja
@@rohankishibe8259 nope there should be limit like 10 or 20 at a time also every clone should have their own will but act accordingly to main body also they didn't dissepear just after one puch like a certain shonen anime 🤡. That would make clone clone fruit a powerful paramcia 👍
so basically he used shadow clone juts and became a naruto?
@@unlimitedgaming9123 to give my man some slack, he did send a clone to deal with a raikage with unlimited chakra, the clones don't really disappear after one punch but the enemies are just that strong.
*Plottwist:* There's mysterious ultimate villain in One Piece who has eaten the undead undead no mi and can revive anyone at will and he has been pulling every strings.
So basically the ending of Naruto
I could totally Oda explain the lack of death like this in an SBS
@@kattyberg246 O shit, NO!
DON'T massacre my boy so badly.
Oda has soooo many characters and creates even more constantly… i don‘t understand why he refuses to let some of them go…
I totally agree. When Kishimoto kills off characters in Naruto, they stay dead. Thus giving the viewer/reader a genuine emotional impact. Where as Oda's deaths are just him trolling us. Cause when there's no stakes, I can't feel any tension or attachment to these characters.
Aaaand 15 chapters later it is confirmed we have another three fake out deaths
Yeah kinemon
Honestly the death fake out that pissed me off the most was pound's, It was a cover series ODA! It's not even like his dying would even affect the story onwards. it would have been just as satisfying to see him looking down on his kids from heaven, if not moreso
Yeah that was fucking bad, even for oda.. felt like a slap to the face when I saw him appear in the cover..
I guess oda have certian way with specific character he know that death would impact get everyone attention. Pound he like a lot wanted keep him alive. It been sad if could not see his daughter. Perdo death was great built sad at the same time
@@laquanlucas6953 pell could have considered a hero that helped saved alabasta and his death would hold so much more weight but now we have self convinced ourselves its the endurance of zoan powers.. smh..
@@RikXtreme4 that radiance of that bomb what pell hold should had kill him in the air. That would had made him hero of alablasta saving a lot people life.
@@laquanlucas6953 honestly, i would have enjoyed it way more if he died and they revealed at the end of the arc that vivi got his fruit
The scene with the scabbards still got me, ngl. Also, the whole Big Mom thing always gave me the understanding that such a thing was not uncommon in the Charolette family, which is just a whole other layer of tragic family drama. Sure he didn’t die, but how many times before that did he not die? Or any other member of the family? It’s a whole different sort of twisted in my mind.
may be he was given his soul back that could probably happen
Seems like a regular occurrence in the Charlotte family to me. 🤷🏻♀️
Because if Big Mom isn't out and about in the town, or even if she's out to sea, when she goes crazy the only people who are there she'll attack are her kids.
It seemed after they all saw Big Mom take his soul, it seemed like they weren't surprised. I mean, sure they were shocked for a bit, but not surprised it happened.
This has always been my biggest complaint with OP, it was so frustrating at first but at this point I’ve just come to expect it, which can remove the impact of their death, even Pedro, he literally already had a fake out death, then he actually died, and I wasn’t sure if that’s actually what happened.
Agreed. Which is why I have trust issues with Oda's character deaths.
For example, I was emotionally moved and saddened over Pell's sacrifice in Alabasta.
Now when I re-watch that arc, I will never feel those same emotions ever again, BECAUSE of Oda's trolling!
It's just another "boy who cried wolf" situation. Seriously! don't write character death scenes, if you're not following through!
I just subscribed, great content! Honestly this issue is so deep that when Ace's grave was shown before they revealed Sabo's return I thought Ace somehow survived.
Moria managed to escape, his death was never fake. Plus him being alive might prove a plot point
That's what I thought too.
And its reasonable, he could somehow die and revive himself, as zombie. With him there are actual possibilities how he could could cheat death.
Regarding the Moscato thing, in retrospect I feel like that may be the one fakeout death that is justifiable for the context it conveys. His death conveyed to the reader the idea that Big Mom is violent, ruthless, and willing to murder anyone, even her own children to get what she wants. The fact that his revival and recovery is left to Mont-d'Or could be intended to seed the idea that the Charlotte siblings are willing to go behind her back and act against her wishes for the sake of each other. Big Mom rules her crew and her children with fear, but the Charlotte siblings' loyalty is to each other, not to her; an idea that would later be more deeply explored with Katakuri.
Of course it absolutely could just be Oda want to have and eat all of the cakes, too. Who's to say?
I still don’t believe Pedro is dead.
I have watched about 25 ish videos so far and this was the first riddle to legitimately get me, so hello grand fleet!! I am now a subscriber
One day, Oda will be killing characters from right to left like there's no tomorrow... That day we will suffer because that line he was not willing to cross will be no more...
It's all fun and games until Oda pulls a red wedding. lol
I kinda wish that terror would happen ...
He's probably waiting to do all the killings at the Final war arc where all Luffy's allies are there
and i still won't believe it
@@fandomunites6414 That's quite possible
Ahh yes... Death. It doesn't happen but it sometimes does.
I’ve been watching for just about a year now and I FINALLY made an account to become a member of the Grand Fleet! Thanks for the great videos!
Yo GLR, this video is godlike. Very thorough explanation as to why it is the way you feel, the Oda edits are freaking hilarious, the Oda captions had me rolling in laughter, the examples you gave are great, the rebuttals you had were good, just all around quality. Absolutely loved this video. 👏
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
Until a person is buried in the ground they’re alive alive as far as I’m concerned when it comes to one piece
Yea sounds more like Naruto logic.
@@mohammadkhizar3464 nah, in Naruto they are even alive after they are buried XD
(Reanimation jutsu)
@@cooljo5881 well thats coz it brings dead people back to life meaning they were already DEAD in the first place.
Just wait until that happens and someone actually has a Buried-Buried no mi devil fruit that revives a person everytime it's 3 feet under
@@cooljo5881 fr hidan is still alive after he got buried alive
Could you imagine if during the Final Arc, Oda just went on a killing spree and murdered like 80% of every named character in some ultimate War
That would be epic
He would never pop off like that
Then fans would complain he killed too much
@@unknownvariable9239 only fangirls would do this lol
I REALLY doubt that
Thanks for the regular one piece content uploaded straight into my TH-cam feed!
You have by far the best "subscribe to me" bits on youtube, at least from those I've seen
Im still shocked that pound is alive the cover series was fun but it under cut the moment
I’m shocked you believed it. I was shocked to find out Pedro actually died and honestly sometimes I wonder if he’s gonna appear in a cover story down the line
How did it undercut the moment? Death wouldn’t have made that scene any better…:it’s his willingness to sacrifice himself that is worth remembering….he attacked oven knowing he would possibly die….why does it matter that he didn’t? Explain how death undercuts his sacrifice….lol that’s like saying for example….Jesus’ death was undercut by his revival 3 days later….we remember the sacrifice and the courage it takes to do it
@@mastergoku4321 I'd be ashamed of using such a dumb comparison if I were you
@@mastergoku4321 Pound being alive undercuts his death scene as it shows it cheapens it to a hollow attempt at an emotional scene which looses it’s weight on rereads
The staggering amount of death baiting in this series is something that will never not trigger me.
Hi I found this channel recently and I watched almost all your videos and you are already my favourite channel
@GrandLineReview I really enjoy your content keep it up! This video gave me an idea I would like to see you do: how many times have you thought somebody was going to make it out alive but ends up actually dying for good?
One piece keeps doing this so that you can keep making more content
Man it's true hey, now whenever someone's 'dies'. One thinks "they'll be back somehow"
"He serves no purpose being alive, other than to remind us he should be dead"
Cold as fuck LMAO
Love your videos man. Keep up the great content. Would love to see a video going over the theory of the will of “d” and everyone with the initial being decedents of joy boy’s crew.
Correction: Gecko Moria was never assassinated. He was ambushed, yes, but he can EASILY escape that situation with his Shadow, and it was said later that he disappeared, so the assassination ended in a failure. It was not a death, and it wasn't intended to be. We never saw him die, and it was never hinted at that he was killed.
Gecko Maria should have at least died to Black Beard and his men because Black Beard kicked Ace’s ass which later resulted in Ace’s death by Akainu killing him, so the very least even if Black Beard survived an encounter with Doflamgino then the very least he should be dead from his encounter with Black Beard and his men.
HOW. At that moment there was at least 5 pacifistas near him and there was DOFLAMINGO. We literally saw that man cut the leg of the possibly biggest giant of that era WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. What do you expect us to think. And i think that invisible guy saved him.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr what? Blackbeard invited him to join him in chapter 925
I think ppl jump on this, coz Moria has failed so spectacularly at getting over his merits as a powerhouse. It seemed bizarre that someone as pathetic as Moria could escape the killing intent of a mysterious badass like Doflamingo (who still had the full weight of his mystique at the time). Until Dressrosa Arc, I'd say most would regard being cornered by Doflamingo as an open and shut case for death at that point
@@tarikizgua1835 , Black Beard gave Gecko Maria the same ultimatum that he gave Ace and Bonny where if he doesn’t join his Crew then he’d either kill him like how he stole the Devil Fruit that turns people invisible, or he handed them over to the Marnies like he did with Ace and Bonny, so yes even if Gecko Maria survived an encounter with Doflamgino then he should have at least died to Black Beard and his men.
if the people that got the "death scene" like the one with the huge bomb at alabaster atleast had somekind of damage like missing a lim or two, realy bad scaring or someting like that showing that they got some serious damage would atleast make it feel more realistic atleast
Yeah, pell staying alive was actually frustrating
edit: after reviewing some of the scenes. All of them frustrate me, but especially Pell and Bon Clay because Pell was insanely unrealistic since the bomb with Pell was going to decimate part of Alabasta and I almost cried at Bon Clay
Yeah true he could at least do that
@@colinfranco3046 apparently pell was only kept alive cause a bombing happened at the time and oda didnt want to be insensitive
@@colinfranco3046 for me pagaya was the worst. He took one of enels strongest attack straight on that left a giant crater in the ground around him completely incinerating him. and then he shows up at the end of the arc like nothing happen. no scars or anything. and no one questions it.
Yasss longer grandline review videos appreciated
Monet and Vergos death weren’t really shocking since they where introduced in that arc. Its similar to flashbacks you only see those characters for a short amount of time so they can die I guess.
The only shocking thing with Monet's death was just the shock of "Smoker's gonna die ...... OH MONET DIED, of course Law double crossed them lmao, should have thought of that".
Arc enemies are a subset of characters that have a real shot at being dead for good so when one dies it isn't exactly shocking in itself
“My name is Liam, and I have opinions.”
Such a simple line, yet it cracks me up.
Kinemon definitely is not dead he has to atleast see his wife one last time before he goes.
Imagine we get to Elbaf And the kids Big Mom ate are alive and well. That would an oda Resu- Resu revive masterpiece lol
damn you finally got me on the quiz, been subscribed tho
Me realising the mini game is REST IN PEACE and not REST IN PIECE:
*Internal Screaming*
Oda is an evil genius. To this day, I still can’t believe that Pedro is dead. Literally, I can’t wrap my head around it, which sucks because I want to FEEL the impact of his sacrifice, yet I'm still expecting him to rock up in a cover story down the line.
Pedro is pretty set in stone dead
He gonna be like that blonde nazi from jojo bizarre adventure. Cyborg head ass
I feel the same. I wouldn't be surprised...
@@unknownvariable9239 So was Pele... and all the others and yet...
@@NOAH576 his name is Stroheim
There's this video that Artur did early this year where he talked about Luffy's true dream and that it is very likely to be the dream of having a huge party or whatever with everyone. maybe Oda wants every character that the straw hat crew has met during their adventure and has helped them to be present at this grand party or something. however, I still do think it's annoying that creates death scenes for these characters but maybe oda wants to make the readers very emotional like a death scene would but doesn't know any other way.
"My eyes are really sneaky" got me good 🤣🤣🤣, I totally understand how you felt about Ace, and I'd like to add Jack the Drought to the list of villains that should be dead but aren't. In his case, what saved him was a plot convenience instead of an off screen miracle, but it is no less frustrating to me.
'Crying wolf' and Jabura crying. I love these edits you do.
If there’s a strong potential for the character to have a purpose in the future, like Bellamy and probably Bon Clay (and maybe even Pound if Bege and the Firetank pirates make a comeback), this kind of thing is alright, not great, but not terrible. But yeah, a character who’s role and arc are at an end let them stay dead. For example, there’s no role Pell and Igaram can fill that can’t be filled by Chaka, who never “died” in the first place. let’s say Imu tried to have Rob Lucci assassinate Vivi at the Reverie, seeing that Pell, Chaka, and Igaram had been beaten by Lucci wouldn’t have any more impact than just Chaka being beaten, because we already know Lucci, or really any threat targeting Vivi at this point, is above the Alabasta guards’ level.
I think whether the character has a future purpose for the story or not, it's still bad. It's a cheap way of garnering emotion and if he wants his characters to be useful in the future, he should explain how they survived or just not have killed them off in the first place.
that minigame was wellplayed good sir
And here we are, unable to even trust flashback deaths, now....
Ya got me. I changed to none just before you revealed the answer but I'll still count it. Subscribed.
Ironic that Oda "cries wolf" about death when Usopp is literally the opposite of that entire concept. Everything he says seems like a fake out, only to turn out true in the end. We just need Usopp to say a character dies and then they actually will, even if it seemed like they survived.
Hasn't Usopp said something like "we are going to die!" ?
@@elekku7031 Everyone is going to die eventually.
@@wekashipo7507 I see. Usopp never lies
Usopp is the living death note
I can't find it but Usopp tells Sanji he will kill him
Everybody knows the most dramatic death scene was Mr. 11
This is why I have trust issues with Oda's character deaths.
For example: I was emotionally moved by Pell's sacrifice in Alabasta.
Now when I re-watch it again, I will feel absolutely nothing, because of Oda's trolling.
And the same goes for future arcs like Thriller Bark, Impel Down, Marineford, and etc. Seriously Oda, this NEEDS TO STOP!!!
It really ruins it for me.
This is definitely the biggest problem Oda has, if not the only problem Oda has. There's literally no reason to bring them back to life. Another thing that's bad is the pacing in the anime, but that isn't really Oda's fault.
@@KenBro05 Agreed. Kishimoto actually kills off characters, and keeps his promise. Sure some of them come back to life, but other times it's permanent. And he doesn't change his mind at the last minute like Oda does.
Using Pell as an example, Nico Robin snaps his neck, he's fine. He gets hit by a sniper shot, he's fine. He takes a bomb explosion TO THE FACE! he's perfectly fine! Seriously are you going to kill off this character or not?! MAKE UP YOUR MIND ODA!!!!
I’m a diehard OP fan, and I’ve been getting into a lot of comics/manga recently. It’s gotten to the point where I’m beyond shocked when even a minor character dies. Side characters send me reeling.
Also I guessed correctly in the opening game lol but I’m already subbed so it’s a win-win
I'm still shocked that he killed two characters off in one arc with Monet and Vergo.
I remember so many theories of monet still being alive and a possible candidate for future strawhat because she had books of astronomy on her shelf and those theorist wanted the strawhats to go to space.
I've seen a theory about Raftel being the place people go after they die.
That's why Roger said they where to early, and that would also be why Oda doesn't like to kill people that don't have a conection with the One Piece. Because he plans to show all the dead character once we reach the final destination.
That’s actually a really good theory, I would love for that to be the actual ending of one piece.
The fine art example was hilarious! You're funny ah! 😂🍻
Great critique too.. Though Ace's death crushed me personally
It's kind of funny bc if I could pick one character to have been brought back at the time, it would have been Ace. But in retrospect, I really appreciate his death bc it was prob the most poignant moment of the manga at least to that point, for me. Very insightful vid :)
Lol, kinemon is in chapter 1030
Reader : " oh shit there is no way they survived."
Oda : "hold my beer"
I honestly think he has these crazy "what if this character died" moments then instantly regrets it but I also think he purposefully does it so we actually don't expect characters to die and when they do we're all like ?????
Every actual death so far has had strong narrative reason, except for Monet and Vergo (so far).
Ace and Whitebeard obviously died for great world impact, Absalom was only confirmed to be dead because his fruit was taken by someone in the first place, and Pedro forms the backbone for Carrot's storyline, and died to have at least some consequences for the entire arc.
Vergos death had a very strong reason. Law taking revenge for Corazon. He always blamed himself for going to the wrong guy. And he made up for it by taking him out
@@deebo429__ Ok, and how often does revenge in One Piece end in death? The list of current timeline deaths is LITERALLY just five characters pre-Wano, your reason isn't exactly strong enough to merit being on that list.
@@tuvillo law has been one of the most important characters introduced into the story. Being a will of D holder and the conductor that has the story train rolling. He even has a straw hat style back story. Homie is basically one of the gang and therefore him getting his comeuppance on the people who has caused him strife is definitely worth adding to the kill count. Also, we're seeing more death in the new world. So much more. We literally watch all the donquixote execs die in front of us. Also Bellamy. If any deaths had narrative beats, it'd be those at the hands of law.
The „time after time“ bit got me
Mr. 2’s “death” scene still works for me, because he’s still sacrificing his own escape for Luffy. He’s still trapped in prison without his friends
Bingo.
he made new newkama friends
@@hikari62k yes but he will for a fact forever be trapped in the worst prison being subjected to torture and all other kinds of messed up stuff which is close to being dead lol, unless he writes some insane bullshit where they willy nilly rescue him for zero reason
@@shaqjuice420 isn't he on level 5.5 which is hidden from the rest of Impel down where Ivankov was. He basically took over Ivankov's position. remember when Ivankov refused to leave? it suggest that it wasn't that bad.
@@shaqjuice420 I have a feeling the Straw Hats are gonna raid impel down because of wtv is happening with Vivi and Sabo. I'm hella annoyed that Bon Clay didn't die, bc I rmb watching that scene and was like Bon Clay is a fucking legend. I also like Magellan's character and position. With Bon Clay being alive, both his sacrifice and Magellan's character became empty. But yeah ig they will meet each other soon enough I think.
The worst to me was Bon Clay. The characters was great, his sacrifice was great and Oda totally ruined that whole scene with the character suriving. Unbelievable.
true
I never thought he was dead though. The sacrifice was his freedom.
@@cosmoconkerjames i really tought he was dead,even tho i thought he was dead,that moment made me feel somehow i can't say in words,but now that i know he's alive i feel anxious for some reason,even tho i should be happy
Bon Clay's death made me cry and when I discovered his survival I was at first infuriated and then I decided to erase that information and keep him dead for me. I hope he will not appear later because it would be confusing at hell for me before I process back
@@nicolaschaigneau2001 i think he will appear in the last battle against the gv.
you are a master of your craft, and I highly appreciate your ability to bring audience members to your content.
One Piece covers a lot of themes in today's society, and it allows us to have permission to be ourselves, and your contribution is an integral part of that to the English speaking cultures. Thank you sir.
This was a great video. The only part I disagree with concerns Moria, I think it has been literally explained how he escaped (Absalom) by Doflamingo when the latter spoke the WG official in his office.
I personally don’t disagree with any of this but i do want to mention this strange thing, im recently rewatching one piece with a friend and he was so glad that pel didnt die, lol, i was like are you serious? So i guess some people like it
Oh and we’re 21 and 22 if that makes a difference
What why he’s not important to the story or interesting
@@jisunggoat960 some characters are just better with a good wholesome ending, not everything has to end dark and gritty. It feels like a relief sometimes.
1015? how long was this on the backburner we just finished the 2 week break for 1017
Whenever I fail the challenge at the beginning I like the video because I've already subscribed so I need a different punishment
It’s funny. I actually got your quiz right. Somehow I just knew that’s where you were going with it😂
Man, people thought that Bon Clay died? I didn't
How can you read/watch that and not think he died?
@@jose_prs you cant killa a god
@@-BlazeK- fair enough
I mean saying "say your last words" is usually only used for a character about to die.
Maybe Oda is one of those people who constantly second guesses themselves on whether or not the character they just "killed off" will SOMEHOW become important in the future.
Everyone seems to love Alabasta so much and even after I’ve almost caught up, the amount of fake out deaths ruins the arc for me and prevents it from being one of my top arcs. The characters were most invincible in Alabasta and it hurts the arc in my eyes too much
Listen, this video made me relive these “deaths” and now I’m not okay