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Kaido’s popularity comes down to his arc being incomplete, we yet to have his history his flashback which will put him over its unfairto compare him to completed arc villains
But we have villians like Enel or Crocodile who had very limited back stories. Crocodile was popular before his involvement with impel down.
Yeah
It’s less that it’s unfair to judge him based on his lack of backstory specifically and more to do with the fact that we know that Kaido’s role in Wano is as of yet incomplete. Enel and Crocodile both served their roles as main antagonists and therefore we are able to judge them based on how well they played their role.
we know for a fact that Kaido's role in Wano is incomplete and we know that there is more depth to his character than we currently are aware of. its hard to judge Kaido because hes not a complete product yet.
@@almostunliketea also, I don’t think Enel or Crocodile are popular because they’re amazing characters. They’re popular because they’re cool in appearance and attitude, and Oda had them serve a wacky comedic role in future arcs or cover stories.
we never needed a flashback for crocodile for him to turn out great, not everyone gets him, and we have had enough flashbacks in this arc, theres lots of fights to finish and shit to really hit the fan
Honestly ever since the Raid Oda has been adding layers to his character, I’m very excited for his flashback. After that his popularity might skyrocket
Just give us the flashback already oda sensei
His flashback is gonna have to be messed up or at the very least eye-opening because of his connections to others (like Rocks) and because of character from what we seen. A stoic yet emotional guy (when drunk) who has some moral code yet he wants to plunge the world into madness
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kaidos hair is black
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 So?
As soon as I joined the grand fleet all the ladies in my school suddenly became attracted to me and I’m not quite sure why
nani
You will be the next harem king
I don’t know man that’s something that happened to me as well so we winning RN
The can sense that legendary energy
Cause all girls want a chad that will never try to be their lad
"He feels like a side character that just so happened to get the role of main antagonist" is a pretty good way to say what I think of him. It feels so weird to me, all of this set up in the 100 chapters of Wano so far and careful positioning of characters and what not is all done with the goal of taking out Kaido. So why even after this many chapters does he still feel like a blank slate? Despite the fact that he will obviously be given some back story some time in the future, I feel like that isn't a replacement for a good old shining personality. Doffy could be on screen for just a few panels and you can instantly decipher that he's a maniacale bastard that tries to create chaos, with Crocodilw you could instantly tell that he's a suave Bond esque villan that carefully plans each move, even Enel you get the sense that he believes he's a supreme being and is completely full of himself. With Kaido? Uhhh he's strong and evil I guess? Like every single villain in existence? Idk, I've been missing something from Kaido so far that was present in all of the great OP villains, but I do have hope that once he finally ascends from feeling like a side character to an actual main antagonist he'll get more time to show what he's all about.
Very well said this is exactly how I feel
But i expected when i first saw kaido he's a characters like weevil but smarter, i think his characters is like luffy a guy who really naive and follow their intuitive instinct but apparently not, his characters is like crocodile but 3X worse
For how incredible of an introduction his first appearance was, when you compare it to Big Mom's ...... You get that Kaido is really tough, lost a bunch of times and wants to die but can't whereas with Big Mom you can tell that she is some sort of candy obsessed maniac who also is a massive mob boss.
Then add their first appearance during their titular arcs, Kaido is getting drunk and transforms into a rampaging dragon and then ..... sobers whilst doing so ? There's a start of a characterization but that's pretty heh. Meanwhile Big Mom is having a grotesque version of a Disney Princess song surrounded by uncanny animals and objects with faces singing about how much she wants to eat the wedding cake and you see her subordinates acquiring the ingredients for said extravagant cake with absolutely no regards for human life by slaughtering countless people for them. It's extremely creepy and unsettling and really gives you the vibes of the character.
It's actually insane thinking about it that you have two yonko, yet one has been clearly established from her first proper introduction (and you could already gather her big unique factor ever since Fishman Island) whilst the other, even when you enter the final battle against him, feels like a placeholder character. There definitely was a huge imbalance in terms of characterization between the two to say the least
Kaido will probably get more popular when we see him fight in future chapters in one piece and more character development.
Agreed
The thing I am most excited for is his flashback. If it's done well, he might be top 5 best One Piece antagonists.
I think Kaido will never receive any character development. It just doesn't seem to suit him to suddenly change his view of life or his morals. But indeed he will get a lot more popular after his flashback where his behaviour will probably get "justified"
@@john_kou2756 what u said is the the exact opposite..he knows way too much stuff including joyboy and rocks plus even has a reason to be in wano..ther should even be more to his reason to suicide tho thats my headcanon, but if it makes some effect on the story it will make a gud development
@@john_kou2756 I think OP just meant characterization, instead of "character development."
Kaido is Gilgamesh. A Gilgameah that took the immortality and regretted it. His motivation of war for the sake of war is likely to produce someone or something that can beat him. Maybe he wasn't present when Xebec was defeated or he was and wants that thrill of actually losing again.
I like this take. Oden is a sort od Enkidu to him (more or less...)
@@alessioarbustini5533 i didn't remember that Gilgamesh deep fried Enkidu
Kaido is seeking a glorious historic death, one to be remembered for the ages. He admires and covets the deaths of Oden, Whitebeard and Roger. That has been shown to be his obsession. He told Oden how they’d speak about him for ages to come. He mentioned how Whitebeard pulled off a great death.
@@TomimokaDiyuu This is the "less" part... but hey, who knows how ancient heroes used to sped their free time!
@@alessioarbustini5533 idk
6:51 i am watching a married man fight with 2 one piece figurines.
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Very realistic SFX👌
Kaido had one of the greatest introductions of any character in the series.
Kaido in Onigashima is getting more & more intriguing with each passing chapter. I'm getting mad MCU Thanos vibes from Kaido's recent development & I'm loving it. I can't wait for his backstory
Hear hear
69 likes..... nice
You just made sure Ill never watch OP again by comparing it to capeshit.
One piece went to SHIT after skypia and current fans also liking marvel puke confirms that the show is for literal retards now.
@@Togmot lmao did your mom hit you kid? Or did you have a break-up with your gal
@@Togmot you’re so cool dude
As someone who has been studying story telling for most of his life, I can promise you that Kaido is being written as an enigma for the sake of another story he takes part in which is either post-wano where strawhats have to take part in their final battle, or in a flashback. It also could be both, but Kaido as he is now is definitely a shell of a man who wants nothing more than death by honorable combat.
Please reveal to me how wano will end
@@zermanman9891 luffy will win and kaido big mom will lose
Wow you were right
it is almost scary how accurate this comment is now that wano is over
Bro has insane advanced observation haki
Kaido with every chapter I feel is growing on everyone.
Definitely a lot better than he was before wano
I'd say lots of people's interests in his character were based solely on his menacing introduction. Which sorta made you look forward too wano just that much more. But after seeing Oda flesh his character out abit more in the arc, my love for him as whole as decreased.
This can all change tho when we get his long awaited flashback 🔥😎
Yeah, he might probably get to a position amongst top 5 antagonists in One Piece by the end of the arc. But currently, I still think Doffy, Katakuri, Crocodile, Blacbeard and Akainu are the best antagonists
@@avalac7412 definitely agree with his introduction, he was terrifically terrifying. Especially being someone who just wanted to die and couldn't in a great way like WB and Roger made him more appealing. His thoughts have changed from that now cuz he's not as wild as he seemed earlier, but seeing what happens when--
*SPOILERS*
he takes on Luffy and sends him away into the ocean, he's just a very big man rn that can't easily be stopped. Most you can give him is respect for how he acted towards Oden in his final hour.
Hopefully with his flashback, including his past with Big Mom, WB and the Rocks Pirates, it will give us what we want and more with Kaido, because I really want something to happen for him
not really. Feels about the same
Hody Jones feels like a pre-time skip villian that ended up in post-time skip One Piece somehow which is why I don't really hate him at all, he was just used by Oda to show us how far the straw hats came during their two year training
I absolutely love Hody as a villain and I will never stop repeating how much I love him. People blast his look because he's just this potbellied guy, but that was part of his whole idea. He was this 'normal' guy who inherited the racist will or Arlong (playing off of a major One Piece theme) and used whatever advantage he had, no matter how cheap or underhanded to achieve his goals. I loved that he kept failing and getting back up and failing and getting back up to try to beat Luffy, in the same way that Luffy is defeated multiple times through an arc, only this time Hody failed at the end, all the powerups, all the sacrifices to achieve his dream, and he failed. And people crap on him for being a weak villain, but he still managed to trap Luffy underwater and almost bit his head off, so that's...something.
Petition for Oda to make Chris the final villain of One Piece
I accept my role as the final villain. I've even been working on my evil laugh. Heehuehuehue
@@SargeantDorito lol xD
@@SargeantDorito lol
@@SargeantDorito Needs more work. Something unique like Big Mothers mamamamama. Maybe chrischrischris.
Signed.
I dont take fan polls seriously honestly. A lot of data is skewed due to a design's sex appeal and recency bias. Carrot is rated so high because of her recent appearances and her design (You know what I mean). The best villians in the series are the ones who were fleshed out and had an impact on more than just their arcs. Characters like Arlong, Doflamingo, Crocodile (even if I dont personally like him), Aokiji, and of course Akainu. These characters have been prevalent for so long and have changed the course of the series significantly. I think its very naive to try and rate Kaido's appeal and popularity prior to his backstory and inevitable showcase showdown with Luffy.
Regardless I'd like to take the time to remind us that our boy WOOPSLAP made it ✊🏻
The poll was mostly rigged because of the war between the fans for the best girl spot (Nami, Robin, Hancock) and the new nakama spot (Carrot, Yamato) lol. Carrot is 8th but I almost never see fanart with her and such. Weird isn't it? Fans (especially Carrot's and Nami's) just found a way to boost their girls' numbers because they think it'll make Oda to change his whiting or something.
Kaido has been hyped up for almost a decade now, and it's no exaggeration to say that he's been the main antagonist of the entire Yonko saga and yet he's only at 65th position? While his own arc is underway? Come on now.
@@sammykent5752 hyping someone up for a decade is not the same as actually getting to know them you know? Like what do we know about Kaido? He was in Rocs, hes the strongest pirate alive right now, he wants to have a huge war, and he idolizes a proper fantastic death. He isnt compelling and is still juvenile in terms of character building because we dont know why he wants those things. Like Doflamingo, Katakuri, and Arlong are fantastic villians because we know their reasoning and their wants. The reason is what makes them fleshed out, not the desire.
@@tearzofthefallen6586 the issue here is Kaido's presentation throughout Wano arc. The way Oda's presented the character during this arc has been extremely poor in my honest opinion. Doflamingo, for example, was already far more compelling with how he was portrayed throughout his arc before we even saw his backstory. I mean think about it, the backstory isn't supposed to be what makes the character interesting, but with Kaido it feels like we're just waiting for his backstory to find him more compelling which isn't how it's supposed to work. For the hype his character has gotten, he's been really underwhelming to me. And certainly a lot of others think the same way too
I’m going to disagree about Caesar, yeah he poses no direct physical threat to Luffy, but I actually find him more sinister and intimidating then most villains in OP. He’s an expert in WMD’s who’s utterly insane and has no moral restraints, plus the backing of some of the most powerful figures in the world. He doesn’t need to be a threat through physical power, which also makes him a refreshing change of pace compared to other OP villains. He’s lowkey one of the best antagonists in the series and a core reason I consider Punk Hazard the most underrated arc in One Piece.
I mean his last name is clown.. I couldn't take him seriously
@@metranomon9662 our protagonist’s last name is “Monkey”
Plus he primarily hurt kids. The others may have hurt or killed kids indirectly, but Gangster Gastino directly experimented, hurt, and scarred children, among others, for years.
@@metranomon9662 that's literally a stupid reason.
Why didnt he bring back Arlong for the fishman island arc?
to me, pain from naruto is the greatest antagonist ive ever seen in an anime. he excels at every criteria youve mentioned: his design was great ( every character that wears an akatsuki cloak is bound to look badass) and his facial features ( rinnegan, the piercings, bright orange hair) were very intriguing. his motivations were relatable, so relatable that they made naruto look like the villain in his own show. the fear he generated was huge, he just was so powerful when he was introduced that it didnt seem like anyone could beat him. and finally, there certainly were alot of profound feelings about him due to his actions. i really hope that we will learn more about kaido in the future, because right now he just doesnt live up to his hype
And Pein is the only one to succesfully destroy Konoha.
honestly for me kaido is really compelling and i feel like he could become one of my favorite op villains. His suicidal tendencies, connections with rocks, and his idealization of an honorable death is all really fascinating for me. I think oda still has a lot of kaido story in store for us.
Kaido had a really cool introduction when he had the narrator explaining how he was captured and executed so many times and then we see him jump off a cloud right in front of Kid, Apoo and Hawkins. I still wonder if he tried to kill himself while also being fully aware that he was gonna smash their party.
It just looked so random at the time, only later when we found out Apoo was already on his side did we know that Kaido had every possibility to know exactly where their party was and that kinda made this moment pretty lame in retrospect.
I preferred the idea of Kaido just doing whatever he wants on a whim. That he gets drunk and tries to kill himself on a regular basis demolishing everything in his path.
The Kaido we have now tho is very calm and collected, plans decades ahead before doing anything and is very stoic. He's not living to my expectations so far.
It feels like a contradiction that Kaido wants to find the one piece and conquers the world but also tries to kill himself. I don't get him.
@@Broockle yeah to be fair his goals of finding the one piece and also wanting to kill himself are kinda weird. Maybe he just wants to bring a war to the world where he can have a honorable death that everyone sees.
@@cheetah2004
His suicidal tendencies don't even look all that suicidal anymore now. When we first saw him crash down from balloon terminal I thought it was sheer luck that he didn't hit the ocean and drown.
Since we now know this was calculated I also wonder about his marine captures. Maybe those were a lot more calculated too. He's just not nearly as erratic as we were lead to believe.
Maybe there is no contradiction and what is perceived by the world as suicide attempts are actually perfectly executed plans by a cunning, patient war monger.
@@Broockle Remember, he did say he envied Whitebeard for being able to die at marineford.
@@selfimprovement5873
Kaido could have died against Shanks but chose not to. Maybe it was not broadcast enough, adunno.
The explanation that Kaido didn't send all his forces towards MarineFord is even more depicting a character who is cool headed and calculated.
I don't know how to take that line that he envies Edward. I think WB proved to us who the most stubborn and erratic Yonko is during the paramount war.
Kaido by comparison does not want to die in battle just yet. He has plans and is not willing to show his hand until he knows he can get what he wants.
You're wildly underselling Kaido's motivations. He's clearly got some sort of interest in the history and prophecies of the world ("You couldn't be Joyboy, either") as well as an obsession with death and legacy ("Whitebeard did it right"/"Accept your death as a true warrior"). Throw in his opinions on people and their beliefs ("Without proof, they will just keep believing you could win"/"The problem with defeat is, so few people can accept it when it arrives") and you've got some fascinating deeper reason for his motivation to start a new era of war that's going to be explored even more still in the story.
Yeah his speech to luffy about him bringing the crew his head was some cold ass shit. He needs some respect because he can shit talk in a fight and still come out on top. I’m just hoping oda continues to write him as a villain and not a insurmountable wall that the strawhats need to overcome.
@@orbito04 then why didn't he just fly down and take Luffy's head? His words "sound cool", but his actual actions are so lame in that moment.
@@sammykent5752 fate. Just like with smoker, fate intervened and saved his life
I think you've injected a problem where there really isn't one and then created reasons to make the self-created problem make sense. From what I've seen, ppl actually love Kaido's design and it actually does make sense that he wouldn't be that popular yet seeing as he isn't properly fleshed out. Being the longest arc in the series doesn't mean Oda has spent enough time to make us "enjoy" Kaido yet.
He does have some good points though. 65th for the New World's primary antagonist is too low, especially after all these chapters. In comparison, Doffy was already a fan favourite before his final fight with Luffy. The design part might be an exaggeration, but I do agree that it's not on the same level as Doffy's or Katakuri's. And his motivation just raises question marks at this point.
bellamy was a good minor villain
But as GLR said in the video characters like katakuri and doflamingo were much more popular than kaido even before we knew much about them. Especially katakuri I loved him from the moment he was introduced
@@theturkey4018 wait a minute. Since when does popularity poll became an indication of quality of a character.
@@therightone5708 Lol, Carrot has more quality than Ace and Sabo.
Grandline: Kaido isn’t popular
The entire comment section: so I took offense to that.
Pretty much any time any form of critical One Piece opinion is brought up this happens. People get extremely offended because they disagree. I'm cool with opinions, though I'll say a lot of times (with this comment section too) people will hear an opinion like this that's supported with evidence and then respond to it just by saying they disagree and not backing that statement up with any evidence of their own. It's kind of hard for me to see different perspectives when so much discourse isn't suported by any evidence.
@@Cheesehead302 as useful as evidence can be to discussion of objective information it’s impossible to provide evidence for subjective things. If I were to say “I like Kaido” the only evidence I’d be able to put forward is my own word.
What is a good character? What is a good antagonist? What makes a good Yonko in the story?
Well that is going to be deeply personal, someone might think Kaido is a good character because they like his design, think dragons are cool, and like Yamato. Heck someone could subjectively like Kaido better than katakuri or doffy and they wouldn’t be wrong. They also wouldn’t have any way to back up their opinion with evidence.
Further the methodology used here is deeply flawed, a character not being the favorite of many people doesn’t mean much when you consider that most people voted for straw hats. It’s totally possible that Kaido would do much better if the poll was everyone’s favorite villain, or everyone’s favorite Yonko.
Further a good villain can be wildly unpopular while still being fundamentally good as a character. Indeed, making villains unlikeable is often the point and I’d say a character like Moria is a good villain in part because he isn’t likable.
So if the question is: is Kaido a disappointment?
The answer is going to depend on what you individually wanted from him as a villain. For some the answer will be no, for others yes.
Personally I’m on the fence about him, he has great potential in my opinion to be that ultimate wall which must be overcome in order for the straw hats to go from plucky underdogs to contenders on the world stage. In my opinion as long as he delivers on that front I don’t care if he’s a particularly sympathetic character, I’ll see him as a worthy addition to the story.
@@themecoptera9258 sympathetic character =/= good character. I don't want or need Kaido to be a sympathetic character, I want Kaido to be an actual impactful character and to live up to his hype narratively (not just to be a strong brute). So far he hasn't, and I'm losing my patience because this is already the longest arc and Oda's usually managed to deliver in much less time, but Kaido, as well as a lot of things in Wano, just doesn't live up to the hype.
I personally love Kaido, he’s my favorite emperor because he’s just such a beast (no pun intended) and his presence is so intense (plus he knows how to rock people’s shit) and I feel that with a proper flashback, everyone will come around to Asian Danny Trejo and say he’s a good villain
You lost me at Asian Danny Trejo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but I agree with ya lol.
Personally, Kaido doesn't need any more flashbacks. He's already a compelling villain and has already been developed through his own actions and through Oden's backstory. It puzzles me that people want more development from him when we know all that's worth knowing for this arc (his dreams and motivations). The only thing we don't know is his time at Rocks, and that's not going to do anything but develop a character that serves no current purpose for the plot at the moment (Xuebec/Quebec, I can't remember his name).
@@Manganization We definately want to see Rocks, but I think the flashback can help us understand why Kaido came to Wano, what he's ultimately seeking, and why he has this ideology of perfection in death. Overall it will only improve upon his character
@@scottiecurrie7927 naw, this can be acheived without a flashback. Flashbacks drives a story to a halt. Something that can be implied in real-time can sometimes have more impact than dragging out an event to reveal just one piece of information.
That, and we already know of his ideology. He's been talking about that for the entirety of Oden's flashback and current events. We already know it's because of Rocks' captain. I'd be surprised if we even get a flashback at all at this point that isn't Yamato's, because Oda doesn't utilise storied flashbacks for the endgame of an arc.
I have been thinking he looks like Danny Trejo too! (I also met Danny Trejo once, great guy)
I think that’s because Kaidos only been a prideful jerk.
kaido is my spirit animal
Doflamingo is mine
U may wanna get that checked
A perpetually drunk beast of a man... I'm half that so I half get where your coming from
Are.. Are you okay. Like, do you need someone to talk to? Haha
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Poverty devil fruits
Katakuri has a badass design and my favorite IMO bc he looks like a biker gang leader who instead of hanging out at bars, hangs out at donut shops instead.
His Va also voiced gintoki who loves sweets just like katakuri and is a protective figure to his people again like kata
@@yeet807 what anime is gintoki from
@@calvin9187 gintama
@@yeet807 they’re also voiced by the same VA lol
Unlike a lot of the antagonists Kaido really seems to be an incidental factor in the history of the location of the arc.
Katakuri is the reliable older brother and 2nd in command figure in an arc about messed up families. Doflamingo comes from a line of Kings who abandoned and reclaimed Dressrosa. Hody grew up in Fishman Island and learned his predjudice from his community and turned it up to 11. Kaido just sort of showed up in Wano for... some reason? Like I assume it will be a good reason but like we havent even seen the point in the story where he arrived in Wano yet.. it feels like Oda is putting the grander mystery of Rocks and "Joboy" before the pacing of the arc he's currently writing. It also doesnt help that Big Mom and Orochi have demonstrated more compelling motivations than simply "being fated to be there".
I feel like Rocks and Joyboy could be deeply intertwined with Kaido’s motivation and why he’s done/doing the things he’s doing (for example, we know Wano is significant to the return of joyboy, but we don’t know why), but Oda wants to keep it a secret until later in the arc, and I think that when we do find out, we’ll also get Kaido’s motivation revealed and it’ll make more sense to us. A flashback is the perfect tool for conveying that if you ask me
That's kind of bs. We have lots of hints as to why Kaido is in Wano, literally have gotten them since his introduction at the end of Dressorosa. His reason for being there is directly tied to Joy Boy and to his whole "I want to start a big war and die" plotline. I'm sure once we actually learn the reasons behind Kaido being there it'll all make sense and will cease to be less compelling than Big Mom and Orochi.
Pretty sure Kaido came to Wano because Orochi paid him to. He’s basically a hired gun who’s gone into business for himself because Wano’s a convenient base for him and has significant historical value.
@@sobokgaming8476 agreed
@@stefannotchev7209 That's fair, but like I said, we'll likely spend the "majority" of the arc without that context. I'm willing to say that I think Kaido and his presense in the arc beyond being a roadblock suffers for that somewhat.
At this point I have answered a staggering 56/59 of the starting guesses.... incorrectly.
Let's go me too
yea it’s kind of insane how many i get wrong lmao
Ur so wrong about him. He's fucking nuts in fights, looks insane, and he's used sparingly to increase anticipation for him. Every line he speaks is so insane for so many reasons, they can be intricately analyzed sentence my sentence. No one else does that. No antagonist has ever had such an effect where you are so fixated about what the guy is saying and the impact of his words. How do you not lock on when u see him on a panel? You don't. Kadio = best op villain
I think Big Mom is better than Kaido
Man kaido is probably my favourite villain...he's just literaly built different
hehehe
He’s my favorite easily
O_o
@@slippinshaurya bro everything they throw at him he folds them he's a villain that does not talk just does he don't play games, he dont waste no time...
When he cleaned up the mess big mom left after he shitted on luffy, he automatically became one of my favorites
The problem with kaido is not he's a bad character, but rather an incomplete character. The arc didn't go in depth why he's that nihilistic
Plot twist: Kaido's backstory reveals he's responsible for Rocs D Xebec's downfall 🤷 you never know 😂
Oh, you never know haha
Or...
Plot twist: Kaido Joins Strawhat alliance
@@VMrGamer This would be the worst lol
@@veruskatorres9276 I'd rather see Kaido joining Luffy, then seeing that theory of him dying and Bb takes his devil fruit comes true lol
i think that "he just makes me feel fear" is perfect for kaido so far. he will surely eventually reveal more personality but so far kaido isnt a person hes a force of nature and such. we are not at the point yet where we can be confronted with kaidos personality, that will happen once luffy or some other combatant will be able to compete with him but for now all of our protagonists and (with the way one piece tends to do things) the viewers too are not strong enough to stand face to face with kaido and have him reveal anything. so far kaido is big scary dude because nobody is able to get past that. maybe yamato will reveal something but definitely once luffy gets into a proper bossfight we will get more context about kaido. although i do hope that it wont be some overly sentimental crying children story, i would prefer if kaido remained in his essence a very confident self motivated villain and not a victim of society or of school bullying or some such cringe.
What?
kaido's issue really is how boring and bland the beast pirates are, he's pretty great in himself, but the beast pirates aren't much to talk about
Ye, he ll get more popular after we see more of king jack and queen, and probably more about kaido past and future plans. We truly have seen only kaido's strength.
bellamy was a good minor villain
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 bro I swear to god just post your own comment instead of replying to everyone saying that.
I don't know chief, Ulti, Queen, "Drake", and Apoo if you wanna count him, I wouldn't call them bland. If anything CP9 was "bland" but that didn't stop Lucci, so is just a silly excuse
@@patoshippuden7199 son goku would have gotten a power up from ace dying and knocked /decked akainu in the face
luffy just howled
His backstory is going to change how a lot of people feel about kaido. The hints are all there
What hints
@@TheGogosan the rocks pirates his relationship with whitebeard and maybe more on big mom. He also fought with shanks. There’s more that I cba mentioning but kaido could be one of the best villains in one piece after wano is finished
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I disagree with almost everything here, Kaido doesn't want to be bad just for the sake of being bad, and the last chapters have shown there is a much deeper side to Kaido.
You should let some time pass before evaluating him as a villain.
Thank you
How much more time needs to pass? Wano is already longer than Dressrosa and Kaido has been hyped up since Punk Hazard. For a character with this much hype, he's been extremely underwhelming.
@@sammykent5752 bro have you been reading the recent chapters?? Kaido has been far from “extremely underwhelming” he’s already a great character and antagonist so far also we haven’t even got into the Rocks flashback or his flashback to begin with. Wano has to be longer to finally judge his character we practically know nothing about him since the beginning was so focused on Orochi and the Shoguns. Lots of more time need to pass
i agree, he isn't a villain
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Maybe the reason why Kaido is so sad and depressed all the time is because he's aware of his own flaws as a villain. Poor big baby :(
For me out of all the villians I’ve seen in anime, 100+ chapters of this arc, and I still have no clue how luffy is suppose to beat kaido,. That what I love about kaido all he does is win. One shots luffy, defeat the scab burns, tanked 9sword style. Like how you beat this guy. Kaido is easily top 3 greatest villians in the series. The fan base just doesn’t know it yet.
He will be like doffy for a while, only appearing from time to time after his defeat. If kaido is defeated he's fate probably is that he will be captured by the marines. It's not like he will hide in wano or run to another place after his inevitable defeat, or will we see an image of a beat up kaido inside a prison in wano? I just can't see that happening. He better be captured by garp atleast, or it would be too shameful if he run away or got thrown in prison in wano
Ngl aizen gave me that exact feeling.Mans was stronger then nearly every other character and had a broken ability while also being a genius.It wasnt until he was actually defeated that I knew how he was being defeated.
You’ve actually missed with this one, didn’t think it was possible
But it’s facts tho?The polls prove that.Unless you’re talking about the reasons on why he ranks so slow.
the fact that kaido was not on top of the popularity poll has nothing to do with him as a character or a villian, for me he's like top 5 villian already.
Yep pretty dumb point from GLR as when the poll was done he wasn’t getting that much screen time like he is now, in which I am sure he would have ranked higher now
@@bashuggs1205 yea in general i have faith in Oda. He'll reveal some stuff about Kaido real soon that'll make him even more layered character.
Kaido has become one of my favorite villains tbh, the more info we get about him the more intriguing he becomes. He really doesn't seem like "oooo I'm evil" he's more like "I have had a tremendous amount of shit happen to me and I do not care anymore" and just the sure raw energy Kaido leaks out is just really cool tbh. It's also interesting to see when he actually is interested in opponents and not just bored.
Kaido is so boring to me. He has generic final boss vibes, both with his motivations and the "All powerful God like" unstoppableness. Honestly even if he does get the tragic back story we all expect I'm still probably not going to like him all that much. And then the fact that of all the wonderful characters and villains in One Piece, he is the one who gets the longest arc? Nah, I'd rather have had 100+ chapters with Blackbeard, Im and the WG, Dragon or Shanks. Wano itself is getting very close to the "being dragged out too long" point for me and Kaido hasn't helped.
Definitely disagree with your statement Kaido has made this arc far more enjoyable. I don't mind if this arc goes a little longer.
you are very much alone in your opinions, kaido is far more intriguing than black beard, not to mention that wano has been extremely fun and emotional to watch and read since ep1/ chapter 1
The other thing that's just so weird about Kaido beyond his boring personality is that he strangely almost goes against the rules of what makes an intimidating antagonist, and I don't mean from a technical power scaling perspective. On the one hand, he was built up as unbeatable in a 1 vs 1, but at the same time it was mention that he's been capturing multiple times before which already feels odd. Why have such an intimaditing sounding premise like that be followed up with the fact that he's already lost multiple times? In One Piece and basically any story, you want an antagonist that feels like a threat. Highlighting their defeats is a bad way to do that. Which brings me to the next piece of evidence, it feels so weird and unthreatening to me that in this arc we have literally seen Kaido essentially defeated by Oden. Sure, on one hand it makes the reader see Oden as even more of a legendary character, but on the otherhand it makes Kaido feel like a much a less legendary character. Someone that's supposed to be an unstoppable force until the protag barely is able to pull through by the skin of their teeth shouldn't be shown being defeated previously, it just makes the victory feel expected and the antagonist feel unintimidating. From a narrative perspective b Crocodile and Dofflamingo are much more intimidating based soley on their stage presence and actions. Kaido feels like a background character.
@@Cheesehead302 his presence alone is intimidating enough is it not ? he is the sole reason orochi was able to conquer wano, is that not reason enough to be intimidating ? he tanked every single one of luffys blows with 0 damage is that not reason enough to be intimidating ? he then took out luffy out in one strike, is that not reason enough to be intimidating ? he can’t kill himself even if he tried is that not reason enough to be intimidating? if kaido being the strongest alive including all his achievements is not enough to be intimidating for you, then that’s a you problem, not a narrative problem
@@charlesguillergan8759 ewww no. You're the one who's alone in that. Absolutely nobody finds Kaido more intriguing than Blackbeard. Wtf?
Seeing the word "Good" over Doflamingo is kind of insulting honestly
You brought up Thanos and let's not forget, previous to End Game nobody felt anything about Thanos. He was just a big bad guy hiding in the shadows. But then we get one movie and this completely changed. And this is by design.
This is similar to Kaido. So far he is supposed to be this "force of nature". I think, Oda actually doesn't want to give him many details, so that he stays a "force" and doesn't become human too fast. As soon as Kaido will be put into the ropes by Luffy, his facade will crack (properly through a flashback) and Kaido will become much more human.
I feel like Kaido should have had a motivation. Remember when he was introduced? He was specifically introduced as a suicidal person who wanted a place to die. But because of how strong he is, he just couldn't no matter what he does.
That is a really interesting motivation that he does still have. It's just that it's not shown enough in Wano. There are things that hint at it here & there every now & then, and maybe the reason why he wants to bring war to the world or have taken over Wano is specifically so that he could find someone who can take him down. But his motivation is just not showcased enough to know for sure.
it’s not fair to rank his popularity as a villain based off results from an over all, world wide, every character in one piece poll, yano? you should run a villain straw poll for a week or something and we’ll get the real results!
He did, though. And only New World antagonists, check his community posts. Kaido lost to Doffy and Katakuri. He'd probably have been in a worse position if he included pre-timeskip antagonists as well
@@theturkey4018 well those two and crocodile i understand i just meant when he said kaido was 64 or something he emphasized it super hard and made it sound bad cause katakuri and doffy were way higher like both top 20. 4th sounds way better than 64th LOL
@@sshowerss8780 the thing is usually in character polls, what you tend to find is characters ranking higher due to recency bias. The most recent antagonist and the most recent crews usually rank high. Kaido being a major antagonist that's being hyped up for about a decade and this being his arc, it kinda says a lot that he's ranked so low.
Lol this aged well
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I’m just some Guy-do who loves Kaido.
Lol this aged well.
Don't worry kaido will have his big moment when luffy fights him again
This aged like milk
It would be interesting to see you do an objective measurement of the antagonists of the story using those four categories, similar to your rankings of the devil fruit users. There's not nearly as many antagonists as DF users though, so it may be just not enough to do a proper list for...
Me: Sees Liam playing with figures like I do
Also me: This guy gets it *hits like button*
Wait, you didn't know narvals were real?
Are animal nature documents THAT unpopular? D: I loved to watch those as kid
It's surprisingly common I find, had multiple teachers back in my school days that didn't think narwhals were real
But did you know about house hippos?
also the narwhal song.
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I'm a simple man, i love dragons and big guys
Kaido is amazing to me, he's big, and brings fear into everything, he has the ability to turn into a dragon
he has a softer side which we know very little about, really hoping for some more backstory about Kaido, he's interesting
Great video Liam !
GLR playing with action figures and voicing the sound effects is something I didnt know I needed
10:22 best motivation
10:24 *racist zealot*
My cut on Kaido should get him more popularity. You are Welcome
When that gets animated it will
Or you could just make him cringe to death with this comment.
I love kaido he is boss, respect the top tiers of his crew like Jack and show respect to the strong
I honestly like the designs of queen king and jack, a lot more than Kaido
I like king and queen. Both of their design is like opposite of each other 😂
I'll never see kaido as a good antagonist but I do see him as a good obstacle for luffy
Haido looks like Kizarus long lost cousin
Who said Kaido's ambition is to plunge the war into worlds?
If you said drunk line review then you are correct.
I like Kaido's kinda simplicity. He feels like a slice of realism in this wacky world. Villains you can identify with or can find kinda funny are fantastic but someone just being outright powerhungry or just wanting to fight is kinda more realistic I feel. Kaido is just a death obsessed, fight obsessed madman lol
(No manga spoiler) i think kaido is flawed, bc at first he was this invincible beast who people legit thought was stronger than whitebeard IN HIS BASE FORM especially when he was first introduced jumping off a island, and then he has dragon form too which just made him even crazier. (The anime kinda spoiled it but yeah)
Then he started having issues like being a crybaby when hes drunk, and him hitting oden knowing he was distracted like a coward which totally goes against his character as the man who tried killing himself. I think it couldve been fixed if the clone girl was behind kaido, at least then it would be logical but he literally turned and ran towards the clone girl and kaido still hit him. After this fight it made it very clear that kaido wasnt strong at all and in a one on one he couldnt even beat oden WITH the addition of the dragon form, let alone the great whitebeard. I was hoping kaido and whitebeard would be rivals who were both beasts in their respective ways but kaido was only a apprentice. Honestly if kaido was a evil whitebeard strength antagonist it would be interesting as we already fought with whitebeard and now against one of his former crewmate rivals whos evil
I like Kaido, though...
Idk I actually like the air of mystery that surrounds Kaido, every chapter we get closer to seeing his backstory and I'm sure he'll jump up in popularity when we do
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I agree, I never thought Kaido was a good carrot.
If professor X can move anything from his mind so why can't he move his leg with his power
Because that's not Professor X' power. He does not use telekinesis but telepathy. He can read and control other people minds.
U were wrong from the jump thats not his power
A lot of Kaido’s problems ironically are why I like Big Mom such as the out there design. When you mention how bland his character is, I think the popularity polls are just against villains in general. Look at how low Blackbeard and Akainu are, even though both are complex characters with unique personalities.
All I want to see is Zoro and Luffy whooping his ass so we can go to another arc 😅
Same, I actually prefer Dressrosa and Wholecake Island... But I hope my opinion will change and Kaido will be a great villain.
I disagree, I think Kaido has the best antagonistic design in One Piece, and every new chapter I'm loving him exponentially, can't wait for the flashback
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what if Kaido is the mother of yamato and Bigmom was actually a man
To me it feels because he literally has done nothing to fear him. He is only “I’m Soo powerful I’m evil”
Yeah. He should kill the scabbards or something.
@@jcblazer0470 He should also kill a strawhat.
@@selfimprovement5873 Jimbei would make sense.
@@jcblazer0470 It needs to be a character that the audience is really a emotionally attach to...
@@selfimprovement5873 Then Robin would make sense.
you know those polls are off favorites? kaido isnt my favorite character, doesn’t mean i rank him #65. he’s only that low because he’s not the type to be someone’s favorite. Noone is gonna fanart him or kin him etc. But he’s still held in high regard afaik
Lol this aged very well
Well this aged. As of now people are calling kaido the best villain in the series. And we still don't know anything about him.
Those people don't understand anything ignore them.
Kaido is basically big mom when he is drunk
Idk what this guys talking about lol kaido is very popular
I believe Oda just didn't make kaido do anything. which I believe is a waste because to me the greatest introduction to a Villian in One Piece is Kaido, I still get goosebumps thinking about the narrator, saying, "he wanted to die". I would say even Imu Sama didn't have an introduction that good because it lacked anything from the person, but Kaido had this sort of thing which immediately brings out your empathy and makes you interested in him immediately.
So yeah, maybe Kaido will have the greatest backstory of the villian currently, I can see the potential. But I would say that it will be hard to compete against the masterpiece of the Joker Donquxite Doflamingo
So the big question is... did this age well? I'm genuinely curious because I'm not caught up on One Piece aside from videos like this on TH-cam. I've never cared about spoilers, as it's exciting to know what I have to look forward to.
yes, his backstory didn't revealed any shit
Is there a possibility of shanks being rocks's son and rouge being his daughter, Roger would hv taken shanks into his pirate group of he would obviously die and Roger falling in love with rouge married her and gave birth to ace
This is actually good theory
With all the twists so far I wouldn't dismiss it
I want him to be son to rock cuz that would make bb someone who inherited rocks will and being someone like some adopted child
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I'm really glad you brought this up
Another problem I have with Kaido (and the Wano arc in general) is that he wears his influences on his sleeves to a painful extent
He's an angry, giant Oni with a club and an almost permanent frown stuck on his face, and that's about it.
Ahh Chris: the true lurking legend of Wano
Kaido's goal are the equivalent of an 8th grade goth/emo kid. "I just wanna watch the world burn and die." I'm sure you do big guy.
I mean, this whole video just feels like a "why YOU yourself don't like him". of all my friends we all love kaido, maybe it's more isolated than you think... and the fact that he ranked low doesn't mean everything, yes it is somewhat representative but you've gotta remember that one may not vote for him because he voted for doflamingo. Not better than doflamingo doesn't mean in any way underwhelming, it's not a problem either
It feels like why HE doesn't like it even though he went out of his way to mark objective rankings in popularity polls and mention that Kaido-centric vids are his lowest performing? Cuz... that's kind of the exact opposite of what you're claiming.
It shows that maybe your circle of friends is the isolated group. Clearly GLR is pulling from a bigger pool than yours.
@@CyckOne i mean, I didn't say everyone should love him. It was to show that maybe he's not as horrible of a character as he makes him to be, not that he is the worst character because his videos rank less
'fear' Is exactly why after so many years, so many arks, so many villains, Crocodile is still talked about as being one of the best. He was the first villain to genuinely feel intimidating, the first one that felt insurmountable, the first that didn't go down with just the "punch him until he stops moving" tactic.
I think Kaido is one of the best antagonists we've gotten so far, with all the years building up to his arc we're finally here. We're just now starting to get to know Kaido, people need to be patient with him and what Oda plans to do with him.
The two things i feel make a great villain are being memorable and being a genuine threat.
For example, Dr Eggman is a hammy, over the top, comical buffoon who steals the scene but has also built massive robot armies, sky fleets, a giant space station multiple times, unleashed eldritch beings to wreck havoc, almost/has destroyed large parts of the world, etc.
Kaido is an embodiment of threat: while not pure evil, he still represents an unpassable obstacle that cannot seemingly be overcome. As a character he may not be that deep but his presence alone creates a danger, so he's impressive that way. Doflamingo also had that aura but his other characteristics were what made him so memorable, so compared to him Kaido feels a little one-dimentional - that's probably the reason why fans seem to "forget" Kaido. Let's just wait for his flashback.
This arc completely destroyed onepiece for me. Plot is just to physical for me. Its like plot is a character that physically moves characters where he wants them to go. Nothing can go wrong. There simply are no consequences at all. The strawhats are immortal gods. They will never truly loose.
Just look at it. Kaido is a monster. The scabbards challenged him and kiko lost an arm. Later they FKING DIED. What happened to luffy? Oh Kaido "forgot" to chop of his head. Ups. Lol!
LOL THIS DIDNT AGE WELL
Orochi overshadowing kaido....that's the prime reason kaido potential is lost.Orochi being despicable, selfish...and what not .....makes you hate him....(same goes for kanjuro later in manga)......
Whereas, kaido seems to have a sense of honor.....but orochi can go to any extent.....prime reason is orochi and kaido existing together... ultimately one is overshadowed ....
Best fight scene is kaido vs dolflemingo in action figures on the arc of grand line review
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I'm glad we're now getting to hear dub Kaido. Hearing him talk in English about how White Beard was lucky to have an easy death at the hands of the marines hit much harder than reading a subtitle on a screen. Even if I don't fully understand the mentality, I have a newfound respect for his sentiments.
Grandlinereview, how are you shocked that Narwhales exist when you are an Australian, you guys have Box jellyfish, plants that kill and 50000 species of spiders and snakes that somehow make their way into your homes.
he lives to his title
I think Kaido has a hard time gaining popularity is, because we have so many great characters in this wano arc.
We we're introduced to so many different unique characters like Killer, Oden and Yamato.
Also, like mentioned in this video, we nearly don't know ANYTHING about Kaido.
Concluding, I think that Kaido will gain popularity very fast once his complete story been told. When looking back once Wano is over, I think he will surpass Dofi and Katakuri (Even if I think, that this will be impossible. But as we know, Oda will do his job anyways.)