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Yes I love watching Australian man reacting to German man translating the Japanese man theory
Indeed.
"Its a constant cycle that can't be stopped"
- A wise englishman, probably
The Merrys soul was saying it was happy to be on the last adventure for the crew it was also telling luffy to look down at enies lobby 😧😧😧
How good is it
Lol
yeehaaa. grab your favorite kangaroo and watch this
How about the "Pangaea Castle" where the World Government is located. In science, "Pangea" means that the world was once a whole land. But because of the volcanic activities, it went separately. That's why if you look at the map of the world, South America and Africa and looks like they were pieces of puzzles fitted together if you get them closely (you could do the research your self)
- Meaning, Skypiea was once a part of the One Piece, one piece of a great world... My rough theory only
The stereotypical australian kangaroo name is "Roger". Liam is Australian and the pirate king's name is Gol D. Roger. Does this mean that Australia is actualy Laugh Tale?
@@user-dq9so8nq7t I’ll do you one better, ROGER IS A KANGAROO, EXPLAINING HIS UN-NATURAL PHYSICAL STRENGTH.
@@ImpatientPlatypus I strongly agree.
Do you speak Japanese or use some kind of transformations?
that fake theory at the end about Bellamy was class lol
Fax
Imagine it's actually came out to be true
We'll it turns out the theory is real And Luffy Unlocked Gear 5 hito hito No mi, this theory Is REALLY Good
was going to say the same thing lol
@@caleb9740 ..
Hello, Japanese guy here.
I just want to say that it's actually very easy to sneak double meaning in Japanese, much like how you demonstrated that it's very easy to come up with reasonings to make arbitrary numbers relevant. There's a form of joke called "nazokake", which has somewhat similar format to knock knock joke that goes something like this:
person A: "We write a word A,"
person A: "and cross/combine it with B."
person B: "Why?"
person A: "They're both "
where you basically force a connection between two completely different words/concept together using only puns that applies to both; some clever people can come up with one on the spot for 2 arbitrary words. There's just so little phonetic variety in Japanese language.
I'll say though, although majority of the word plays in this video didn't blow my mind (because they really felt forced to me from Japanese perspective), I found the last "soko" pun extremely clever/natural, and something I can see being true. I mean the exact Japanese phrasing is repeated so frequently that I can basically recite it word for word by memory.
Man u should be at the top of the comment section
A japanese dude is also the one who first created this theory. Ohara is just reporting on it
@@shmevanriceballz2857 I am aware. The Japanese person that uploaded this theory is known for his number based theories, to the point he has series of contents just making bunch of word play on every single chapter number.
I just wanted to quickly drop my thoughts on it as someone that understands Japanese because I know it's difficult to gauge the validity of the theories made in language you might not know.
Thanks for info! That was interesting!
I hope to see more of this Australian man reacting to a German man presenting the theory of a Japanese man.
Heck why stop there? The Japanese man wearing the mask of French men whilst the said theory has connections to Aztec men of the past and could actually potentially relate to a Greek word which passes off for a non-sensical English word instead.
In all seriousness, I always like to hear about your engagement with theories!
You have no idea how upset I am for not thinking of adding the French mask to that ramble >__>;
@@GrandLineReview The Merrys soul was saying it was happy to be on the last adventure for the crew it was also telling luffy to look down at enies lobby 😧😧😧
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@@battlecraft224 I wonder if Mary is still there!!!!
@@dokkandk Well she's ash now so that'd be a bit unlikely
He said the line!
“ONE PIECE is less planned out than people think”
Maybe I am. That's just how vague it is. Even when countering the point, it could still be interpreted at bolstering the point~
@@GrandLineReview chill with the words
@@GrandLineReview Hi this is random but we have the same birthday (August 17th)
@@GrandLineReview Oda sensai : cute
@@GrandLineReview Episode 51 Time: 05:53 (On Netflix) (On the background holding a chest) --- Episode 81 Time 19:16 (On Netflix) (Same carpenter working on a door) --- The same dude that Franosuke works for on wano is there... Im watching one piece again so it may appear even more lol
My theory? The one piece is inside the chest that he's holding. Shororororororo
Regardless of how the series actually ends, it'd be really cool if someday we had actual script translations of what each of the poneglyphs said. As it is we only get vague ideas based on what Robin comments upon finding them, but they were supposed to tell a story. Robin must know a lot of details about the ancient kingdom already.
Imagine we get an alphabet at the end of the series… we could then decode every poneglyph
I always thought the ‘D’ stood for Dawn. There’s a lot of Sun and Moon symbolism and the one shot (and subsequently the name of the first arc) is Romance Dawn. I also think they always talk about the dawn of the new age. I think it’s really just a way of saying these people are agents of change
Or the (D) evil to the gods. Commonly used in the show. Or D, the smile. You can keep going
or Dusk. maybe there's 2 factions. who knows?
Skypea was the most Pirate-like story in OnePiece.
Crew finds a treasure map of a place which was city of ancient treasure and leaves by taking it all.
Huh, you're right, maybe that's one reason why I like it so much...
Good call Ikr! It also makes a ton of sense for Skypeia to have been super significant, considering when it came out there was no way to know One Piece would run for so long. So I'm sold on the idea that Skypeia was giving us a lot of important foreshadowing and details whose significance may not have been immediately clear. :)
they didnt take everything
@@bryce2927 they did they just didn't took the pillar they offered and the bell they even took the gold that was inside the serpent
@@rdblocks5490 ok almost everything
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Omg I read this in Liam's voice 😂😂 Everytime i wish i wasnt subscribed just to subscribe when he says that.
I always thought that maybe Zou was the other missing "eye" city, and ended up on Zuneesha because she just went under it and picked it up and is still carrying it around to protect the city. It also goes with the sun/moon theme with the minks living there. And Minks are originally from the moon, right?
That’s pretty cool.
Wait what? Minks are originally from the moon i never knew that, i just know that shandora and other skypieans are only people from the moon
@@walterfritzzz yeah, that's a theory too I guess, because Enel encounters animal like creatures on the moon, very similar to Minks, during his space exploration storyline
To add further onto the connection between the moon theme and Zou, they are friends and supporters of the Kozuki Clan, and of course the full moon activates the minks' sulong forms.
Zunesha is 35 km tall while skypeia is "only" 10
What I really like about the conclusion of this theory (one piece/raftel being at the bottom of enies lobby) is that Going Merry tried to bring them to the final island right before she died. In the anime right before they're gonna be shot down by the marines they all hear Going Merry's voice say "Look down", back then we all thought that the ship tried to save them by telling them to look down and jump onboard. But after this theory it means much more. Merry actually tried to finish their trip then and there.
I’d love to believe that this is true so much
This is cool
So Blackbeard should have just dived ?
Oda: That's cute.
Opens box with 999 other alternatives
You missed a number. It's 999 squared alternatives
lol I think that is totally what this was.
True, I’m sure oda has alternatives lined up to crush any theory that would spoil the end of one piece
That would be some hilarious crap
I doubt that, that would be a quite terrible decision on his part
Bruh “The one piece roars like a bell”, “Bellamy has bell in it’s name”, “His nickname is the hyena”, The one piece island is LAUGH TALE”. Your joke theory legit makes sense.
Little did he know, he was playing into the theory that bellamy and maybe even dressrosa has significance
Yeah him also having connections with skypia.
This isn’t far fetched that sky island and alabasta basically hints towards the ending. Oda had no way of knowing he would be able to tell his story this long so it’s believable that earlier arcs would have ways to transition into more or less the ending. How crazy would it be for zoro to have a rematch against hawk eyes shortly after barate ( probably spelled it wrong) or the fact that shanks vagueness makes so he can jump back in the story logically at almost anytime oda wanted to end the show
@@danzeljohnson3341 so many wrong points you have that i dont even have time to explain that your theory is wrong
bellamy is the one piece confirmed ⁉️⁉️
How come no one is talking about how Kaido is currently just casually picking up and moving Onigashima? Yea you could use Oars but I think many fruits out there have the potential to move islands in different ways. The missing piece of Skypea could be moved in many ways + many ways not currently shown in the show yet
^^^^
I had never thought about that
But like, not only is it true that Kaido *can*…
Oda’s making it a key plot element in the story, which really underscores to me how open he wants to be about this idea
Fujitora's gravity fruit could probably do something similar too.
i dont if this is canon but also shiki devil fruit move islands
Or Shikis float float fruit. We have to remember Shiki is also kind of an enigma
@@ilyass2000jwd z movie is not canon but Shiki as a character is
I really like the theory that "D." isn't a letter D at all, but rather something else. Apparently, Oda was asked what it is and he said he's going to reveal it in time, but, and that's important, "to read it as D. (letter) for now". I swear, he better not have seen a smiley face emoticon back in the 90 and thought silly story to go with that... Ah damn, we're gonna get pranked with over 20-years-old brick joke.
A lot of people look totally sold on this theory, so it's nice to see a more nuanced reaction, like yours! I really agree with what you said: there are lot of very compelling and intriguing points, but also some circumstantial evidence that feels like reaching way too much. Definitely keeping those ideas in mind though!!
Glad to hear it! :D
@@GrandLineReview yeah. Tbh, I buy the first 90% of the theory up until he stated Enies Lobby.
@@GrandLineReview in case the comment gets lost, another use of words that I don't think is coincidence has to do with what he points out a the beginning of the video regarding the japanese word for treasure and One Piece. Look for the clip where the unsung hero asked Roger about the One Piece. What does he says? What are the exact words that Oda makes him say?
Exactly: "Hito-tsunagi no daihiho"
@@GrandLineReview i would really like to hear your opinion on TotallyNotMarks theory. I really like the concept of the story mirroring older arcs
First of love how you challenged some points that had been bugging me from the start but then I went😮 when you pointed out that Nolands right eye was shut the same way luffys was and that Noland found the golden city. The “right eye in this island……..
Luffy's closed left eye is just foreshadowing when he loses his eye at the end of the series, when he'll be the first pirate with an eye patch drawn by Oda.
Wait a minute. Where the f are the patch wearing pirates in one piece world!!!
@@jansenallensigaton6328 Oda has said that the Eyepatch is the biggest thing that identifies a Pirate as a True Pirate in his eye. So he has said he's saving the Eye Patch Pirate for someone extremely important in the story. So it's theorized that Luffy is eventually going to be the Eye Patch Pirate because in Oda's eye that's the quintessential Pirate.
Xdrake although he is a marine also a supernova haha
@@adgd what about BlackBeard? what if shanks took his eye for revenge of his left eye?
@@bolmike4045 That's not an Eye Patch, he still has his eye :P
I have to admit I do like the idea of all the "D"s being people of the moon. Descendents of whatever the kingdom of the moon might turn out to be.
This was incredibly satisfying to watch, thank you for all your hard work! The respect you had for this theory and the way you addressed your skepticism around it was so eloquently done, I loved every moment of it!
Are we not even gonna talk about how GLR literally came up with a theory on the dot that almost made sense…
Literally opened my eyes into not always buying the hype
Ngl i was pissing myself laughing at that because half of it he literally wasn't even tryinh for. It was such a good bit
@@l_l_l_l_l_l_l for real. He did the same thing ohara did and he made it fit insanely well, even better. My main problem with oharas theory was exactly his connection of random numbers to chapters and what was happening in them.
@@mambaforever9593 exactly. So many random ‘evidence’ that was pulled out on whatever part of the story
true, but to be fair-- The Noland Blanc part was actually reinforcing the original theory :p
This is why I'm glad you're around Liam everyone has lost their mind over this theory while some of it is pretty cool alot of it is just weird connections you can make with most chapters.
I don’t know in marineford whitebeard lost his left eye and then says the one piece is real seems way to similar to be a coincidence
Why is there a bunch of haters on this? It was great.
@@jdaniel602 Ohara stitched together a lot of coincidences and shared them as if they were real evidence of a hidden message. A series as large as OP is easy to take such advantage of, which is why like Liam, I'm usually no fan of fan theories.
I agree with Liam on this I hate these types of theories, I prefer simpler theories like how "how will Laffy beat Kaido"
@@berrisfordmartin1375 I love these kind of theories and I absolutely hate simple theories they are just boring.
I really like this theory. It would actually be pretty cool too because Enies Lobby was where Luffy first declared he would take on the World Government.
This video made me unbelievably happy.
I never even click on videos like these - I literally never did up to now and I only did because I knew the quality of this channel from NenWorldReview
Imagine how sad everyone would be if the one piece was actually the first piece of gold Roger stole and he had it framed and it's hanging on the wall of a shack like some businesses hang up their first dollar.
In spongebob, mr krabs had hung up his first dolar and framed it. But if laughtale sunk into the sea, and spongebob takes place in the sea.. then could it be possible mr krabs has the one piece? The framed dollar bill gold roger framed? And that is why he is so concerned it doesn’t get destroyed. Therefore the reason the one piece hasn’t been found yet is because the one piece is not in one piece, but is infact in spongebob.
Well no the one piece isn't Rogers it belongs to joyboy who left it there Roger just found it out
@@coreyphillips8352 SpongeBob X One Piece crossover 😳😳😳
@@g4fly4ever8 there’s already a spongebob anime soooo crossover is definitely possible :o
@@coreyphillips8352 I was just about to mention Mr krabs and his framed dollar lol beat me to it.
The problem I have with Ohara's theory video is that it starts out with a lot of interesting and believable points, but they get overanalyzed into absurdity. So much so that I get skeptical about everything that came before. I'm glad you pointed out how easy it is to create some big brain theory with chapter number math as long as you have an agenda. The same goes for his chapter name analysis.
The most intriguing points for me are definitely the use of the ancient language in Shandora as well as the sun and moon imagery present in Shandora/Wano.
Kinda far fetched actually, but I'm pretty sure there are small details that we didn't notice that might be relevant to the story
my third time watching reactions to the theory but after awhile those numbers do feel over-analyzed and it seems to overblown expectations about Oda's planning
although outside of that, the whole city of sun/moon, roger/noland's dichotomy, jaya being part of AK are interesting theories by themselves nonetheless
For me it's also the fact that he totally skips over Mary Geoise and it's significance despite the fact that it is quite obviously important.
Something like this May be possible. But Wouldnt jaya have been Buster called?. Correct me if im wrong tho
@@zealous404 ignoring the other over-analyzed number plays in this theory, the specific date numbers sure sounds promising.
Thank you for articulating my own issues with the theory much better than I can! There is definitely something here though, will keep this in the back of my mind going forward to see how well it holds up.
Another big hole in the "Luffy's wink" part of the theory is that it's more likely foreshadowing the Golden City being in the right eye of the skull island. That volume is part of Skypiea and at a point where that information hasn't been revealed yet.
Merry's dream was to take the strawhats to the end of their journey, Ennies lobby being the last island it delivered them to. and Merry tells luffy to look down...
God damn.
dope
Yeah to board the merry…. 😱😱😱
Chills, literal chills 🔥
Except it didnt deliver them to Enies Lobby, it took them away from it. Rocketman delivered them to it.
I’ve always like the idea that the “D” represents the smile that all D’s die with. Oda’s smiles are pretty much the letter D. Credit to my friend Xada
He might die with a smile too. Kai D O.
That's the good thing about it being so vague. It gives Oda the flexibility to play with it. D being the smiles, being half of the moon, being D)escendents of the ancient kingdom, the people that want to put things whole again as in the the 2 halves of the moon part of the theory, D as in Devils against the God's celestial dragons...
It's the Will of xD
It makes sense to me especially sing laughter was the first reaction to people seeing the one piece. They die with a smile. Joy boy’s name is Joy Boy. D is the shape of a smile. Just adds up.
When law was about to die from doflamingo stomping on him he never did that smile and he is a D
You asked all the questions I did, and then some more. Excellent analysis sir
WAIT A SEC. During Doffy's flashback, it did focus on his right eye and he's a celestial Dragon. Noland did have his right eye open, and he was looking at the city that would be in the "right eye" holy shit the criticism just sold me even more. Paired with the eventual eyepatch Pirate Oda talked about... idk man. I'm so sold.
Haha that only adds to my point. Everything can be framed as supporting evidence, even something designed as a strict counter argument ;D
@@GrandLineReview You're not wrong! but we're having fun.
@@GrandLineReview It could as well be that anything could be framed to support the evidence of this theory. But there being two sides to the aspects of sun n moon, skypiea n enies lobby, jaya n raftel, left n right, two pieces made to complete one...one piece. Its a crazy coincidence that literally everyone you named on the list of having something to do with their right eye is directly/strongly connected to everyone/everything he mentioned in his theory just on the corresponding side...the right. Idk, im so sold as well. its a very solid theory.
@@ajkalango10 i prefer the idea that the one piece is also the all blue, meaning that to create the one blue and unite the world into one sea or one piece, the destruction of the red line needs to happen
This vid is by far the best enhancement of the ohara/Judaron theory I have seen so far!
I love the fact that u ripe apart the lower aspects of oharas/Judarons theory so we can focus on the ones, which are actually valid making his vid an even better theory. Also your Style of Sharing your thougths (at least in this vid) is definetly the best among all my favorite YTers. Thumbs Up from Germany
Thanks from Australia! :D
Judarons theory
I agree with you that this video has been the best YT reaction and break down of this theory. I’d love to hear his thoughts on the symbolism of the Going Merry, If this theory is true.
@@GrandLineReview great video! Cheers from Brazil :D
🤣 imagine your bellamy’s over-reached theory turns out to be right… 😂😂😂😂
Please do spread the good word of Bellamy 416~
#Bellamy416 #GrandLineReviewWasRight
Just like Tekking joking about Kaido eat a fish devil fruit. 🤣
Plus the name Bellamy was actually derived from a real historical pirate. Seems a let down for someone to have a real pirate name then just become the side-est of the side characters.
So I'm in with the Bellamy theory. 😂😂😂😂
I’m so glad you’re actually giving it some thought and saying what you don’t agree with. The main idea of the theory is really cool and compelling, but some of the evidence seemed so ridiculous to me (the chapter math), and some I straight up had no idea what Ohara was getting at (his showing the last panel of a chapter and the Wano-esque cover page of the following chapter and deciding that the connection is so obvious and mind blowing that there is no need to even say what it is-maybe I’m just dumb, though…).
Anyways, this is the best reaction I’ve seen to this theory, by far, so thanks
That bellamy conspiracy had me going 😂 hilarious, great vid.
Now imagine if Onigashima is the left eye. Robin's only 2 real fights would've taken place in the eyes of the skull lol
Lmao
Dont tell her that, shes going to make dark jokes about it
The raid on onigashima might fail tho
Lol 😆
@@bruis1527 Morj is smiling somewhere rn
What breaks my immersion into theories, every single god damn time, is when they start adding random letters to random words and extrapolate a meaning from that. Adding a D to One Piece makes it Done Piece, wow, a new word, I'm convinced.
For real, it’s like they think creating a new word is intrinsically meaningful. What does done piece mean? Who knows! Who cares! It’s a new word! Even though it’s absolutely meaningless!
It's not a random letter though, "The Will of D" is a big Deal in One Piece. I agree with your overall point here, but if there's any letter in One Piece that is Not random and is actually important, it's "D"
@@alrightalright4585 No, I completely agree that D is significant, but it’s the same vein of thinking that GLR pointed out. Just because an idea is good at its core doesn’t mean it can’t be stretched to absurdity. If the original theory had provided some kind of justification for how “Done Piece” correlates to being at the bottom of the sea, or what “Denies lobby” means beyond a nonsense phrase, I’d be happy to hear it. I think he was really onto something with Oda’s Japanese wordplay, but it seems like the English application of D is not significant.
The reason why is cus Oda loves doing word play in general
dont watch theories then pretty simple most of them consist of that because oda has a habit of using letters and numbers hence why the letter D has such a big importance.
Ive always loved skypiea arc and wondered why people didn't look further into it since so much happened there
I don't think I've ever been bored watching any of your videos,this one in particular got me so hyped about the possibilities of the theories have some actual truth..👍🏽👍🏽
I absolutely love your approach to One Piece theories cause you always consider them and give them the benefit of the doubt while also being critical of superficial connections and info. Sooo well done, I love your channel (and the lil Chopper in the back) ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
I said this on another video:
Not to forget most of the One Piece we know today was created way after the fact. Oda had initially intended for OP to last 5 years. That means he'd have planned to plant seeds of the One Piece "treasure" in the early arcs to pay off in a couple of years. Makes sense for Skypiea to be that and heavy in old lore compared to anything we've gotten in last 10+ years.
Yeah I read your comment, but more than random growth cause of popularity I belive Oda underestimated his own story, he expanded a lot of detail, world building and characters.
Which makes sense with all the linking early on. Back to Rogers message, tying in with Skypeia and then the arc almost directly after. It all feels like a self contained theory. Dressrosa makes it flimsier.
yeah
Yep. If you look at it, they dropped quite a motherlode of info on us in skypiea directly relating to the treasure and void century history. They just didn't directly call it what it is. I don't think anything has come close since then. Or atleast to the extent of directly revealing the characters involved during that time. After that it almost stopped and we've only got new info in crumbs.
Yea this is a good point but oda could have changed the location of the one piece and many other things when he decided to expand the story
my favourite theory is that the "onepiece" is the destruction of the red line, bringing all the world together, also would create "all blue". maybe the red line was man made. idk where it would fit in with laughtale though. it would explain the arc noah
this is why GrandLine is my fav one piece you tuber bro i knew my boy wouldn’t go for all the reaching ohara was doing
The thing which is more ridiculous is Me , (An Indian ) watching GLR ( an Australian ) reviewing a German talking about a theory by a Japanese man about One Piece on an American site (American Headquarters) and going back to check some details on the Russian site where I watch it .
Wow ! I didn't expect to get the recognition of my favorite channel as it is quite a big channel.
God bless the internet
Here I am, a Romanian responding to an Indian man about a video made by an Australian man, reviewing a German talking about a Japanese man on the American platform.. What a world! And all thanks to some fictional pirates
And yes, I am in fact a Vampire. But no, we do not hate garlic here. We love it
Responding to an Indian
Me an arabic
In Britain
Watching an Australian reviewing
A German talking about a theory
By Japanese on an American site
My greatest theory is that your TH-cam feed gets consistently injected by grand line review content once you press the subscribe button
There's no way something that amazing is happening. Its unbelievable.
🤯 - don’t have any words except this emoji to describe my mind right now after reading what you said.
I can confirm the injection of one piece content in my TH-cam feed.
@@isdisgudnam Wait a second, I just hit a random red button and now my youtube feed, too, is being injected with one piece content. Its a miracle.
@@ripant4649 well son, we call that th subscribe button, make sure to tell all your friends to come over and subscribe to the grand line review.
I'm somewhat new to One Piece (just finished post enies lobby today) and when I heard this theory for the first time, it absolutely blew my mind and I thought "Could this be actually completely true?". But I didn't know that Oda wasn't planning on drawing for like 700+ chapters, so most of that number foreshadowing thingy started to sound extremely stretch as you said in the video.
Having a blast watching your videos.
What iffff, the map that Buggy found that was pointing at the water, (when he was still a kid), was actually pointing at the One Piece. Buggy didn't know that and when the map fell into the sea Buggy lost it due to not having the ability to swim. Buggy later told them about the map and years later when the Roger pirates finally reached Laugh Tale and found the One Piece thay laughed so hard because they could've reached it way, way sooner.
Noland looking for GOLD while Roger is looking for NO LAND
I was so hoping that a person already commented this here.
When he was talking about Noland's right eye as a disproof of the first, I was like @.@
That's the point
Roger was looking for No Land? so, looking for sea? i don't understand that part. what does it mean? English is not my language so I might be missing something here.
One of the things that Yuderon-san said recently that struck me was that if Luffy is the sun (日) the Kozuki clan (Momo) are the moon (月), then Luffy AND Momo are necessary to bring about the dawn (明け)
and personally the fact that Luffy is fulfilling some sort of prophecy purely on accident because he wants to become the Pirate King is hilarious
This was the best/funniest video so far! You guys should do a theory battle!!
Just caught up with the manga yesterday, I am so excited to finally watch this video!
That was brutally honest, Liam ....This video's underrated.
PS: The Bellamy part was very hilarious.
Enies Lobby is the only issue I find with the theory. Like how the missing piece of Jaya got knocked up the Knock Up Stream makes sense but how does Enies Lobby if it is Laugh Tale make it all the way to its location away from Jaya? Plus, Roger discovered it, if it was hidden there wouldn't the WG technically be aware of it? Roger made it sound like there was a special method to get there.
This^^^
There's probably many ways to move an island (without spoilers in case you're not manga reader, one way is going to be introduced in Onigashima) but I agree that Enies Lobby is tricky. One thing I could think of connecting it to Roger would be Reighley's words, saying that Strawhats need to see the world and make their own decisions. So for example, would you go and destroy or attack Enies Lobby and make an enemy of the WG? Most pirates don't, but Luffy and the gang did so over a friend, not even the greatest treasure of the Grand Line. So there's some connections that could be made....
And it's never been said outright that the waterfalls are bottomless, but the WG may think so, so there's still a chance that the treasure was under their noses all along, making Roger laugh ~ A reach, I know, but just some musings as to how Enies Lobby could work!
Knock down stream
I think the closed eye , coulx just a quirk of oda. But the idea the navy forgot and its a secret that the one piece or part of it is there denied. There could be an entrance that has to be found but maybe hd to wait or wanted to wait. What if you need sea kings. And it would be a great wtf moment of oda.
I keep it as possible. Also that shandoras. golden bell was part of it.
Also that it was indestructable and sunk in enies lobby.
Maybe roger laughed because he knew everything but was too early to see the weapons and luffy eh has now connections, franky, robin, ally of shiroushi. Maybe the ancient weapons are part of all that
I don't think laugh tale is at the bottom of Enies Lobby, but the ancient city might be- especially if the ancient city isn't exactly what we think it is
We gotta keep in mind there's some prophecy thing that Roger realized he was too early for, so there's obviously some more complex mechanics here about the utility of Raftel or the One Piece.
I think the ancient city that was in the other eyehole might actually have been Uranus, and that Uranus might be a spaceship the size of a city. It explains how the moon peoples got to earth, and if Jaya was the original location of the ancient civilization, then perhaps the reason that Uranus left the island was to flee from a world government attack.
In which case, the big hole under Enies lobby might be less of a sinkhole, and more of some sort of crater from Uranus crashing back down into the earth. Which, by the way, if Uranus can create that much destruction being dropped from orbit, it might be pretty useful for dropping on Marie Jois down the line.
I also think that's related to the D. thing, and also to Vegapunk's discovery of "lineage factors" aka DNA. I think Vegapunk is on Uranus studying the ancient technology, which is why he's so rapidly producing wildly advanced technology while the rest of the world is in the 1800's technologically. I think the lineage factor thing is a hint that the world government is still trying to figure out how to control/use Uranus, and that control of it might be restricted by some lineage factor DNA trait that only a few people in the world have, in combination maybe with some time element. Like some sort of ancient technology password lockout, some restriction maybe that Joyboy and the ancient people made to prevent the world government from taking control of the ancient weapon/city.
The other key thing here is that Vegapunk isn't only studying DNA or ancient technology- he's the one that invented artificial devil fruits. Which to me is an obvious tell that the three are all related- which seems to me like a hint that the D. factor thing is too. So what do we know about the devil fruits?
Any fruit can become a devil fruit- anywhere in the world, after a DF user dies, their ability goes back out into the aether, and into some random fruit. When it does, the fruits physical appearance, or make-up, changes depending on what DF power it's playing host to. In a way, it's a very clever method of trying to de-centralize power. It's incredibly de-stabilizing. If I'm the world government and the world is normal, I can keep track of all the world's armies and weapons factories. But if any fruit in the world, anywhere, could randomly make some normal pleb into somebody like Law or Luffy or White Beard, I'm going to have a much harder time controlling everything.
So if there's any historical intentionality about the devil fruits, I think it's clear that whatever party was involved in that was AGAINST the world government. And so the WG is playing catch up and trying to figure out how to make their own devil fruits, and it's not working super well- but it is based somehow on a person's DNA, as evidenced by Momo having a copy of sorts of Kaido's fruit, and all the zonked out designs of the gifters that basically make them look like mutant freaks.
(Btw, in terms of devil fruits working by altering your DNA, it makes a lot of sense that the first artificial ones would all be Zoan fruits, doesn't it? The WG might have no idea what genetic template to use for paramecia or logia abilities- but they could easily grab the genetic information of animals and try to splice it together into the DF delivery mechanism)
So all that says to me, that somehow devil fruits are altering your DNA, or your "lineage factor" when you eat them. It also says to me that those fruits are changing into devil fruits because their DNA is being changed somehow- and if that's the case, that implies some sort of power to modify the DNA of living creatures remotely. And all of this is tied into the ancient technology of the ancient people, through Vegapunk's studies.
So, what if the D. factor is being given out to people in the world by the same mechanism as the devil fruits? One D. dies, and someone random, somewhere else in the world, inherits that genetic factor for some reason. Maybe it's being selected on some basis, maybe something about some people makes them a more eligible candidate. It is, after all the WILL of D. Who's will is it? Joyboy's? The ancient people?
When liam started saying stuff about the eyes being focused on and he says Nolan’s right eye was closed in his introduction it just helped the theory out
Thank you for this. I enjoy my fellow German man’s analysis & found this theory very compelling, but I have a lot of the same gripes with the way it was presented and typical theory-craft in fandoms.
...though I recognize those were likely amplified by my general reservations about the shift in style of Ohara’s videos to make them appeal to a broader audience.
This is one of the only theories that feels like a spoiler.
Lol tru. Imagine Oda sees the ohara vid or any other vid about this theory and goes like: Ah sh*t, here we go again
half of it feels like a spoiler, the other half feels like a stretch luffy would be jealous of.
I was starting to watch the video when i read this comment. In that case i will stop right here. As much as i like watching his videos and hearing some crazy theories if this one has the possibility of becoming the truth i would rather keep watching the series without knowing a thing xD
Indeed...
@@sroura546 Don't worry, just watch. Most of what Liam agrees with is stuff that Japanese readers would have picked up on as a result of wordplay. Most of the conspiracy stuff is debunked by Liam
I always appreciate the way you approach research and evidence. Even in a world of fighting pirates and magical sea fruits, logical analysis is still very welcome
I follow both of you because your theory's and explanations are clear and interesting.
My birthday is 5/21 so hearing it talked about and potentially being a big important thing in one piece amazes me 😂
Its actually insane how through the years of the series existing, that the amount of interesting theories have come out. Like the world building Oda created just keeps you on the edge of your seat just waiting for each tiny or big reveal to happen. Just over the past few months I have binged his and Morj's theory videos just because it keeps my imagination on the series going. God I pray that every detail is revealed by the end of the series so I can get that brain orgasm from the sheer excitement
The Merrys soul was saying it was happy to be on the last adventure for the crew it was also telling luffy to look down at enies lobby 😧😧😧
Lol ye
So excited we use the wrong shear
Yeah just the sheer number and variety of theories is a testament to Oda’s skill in creating a story densely packed with references and foreshadowing
@@battlecraft224 my only issue with that theory is.... did a boat really find where the One Piece was, the legendary treasure, before anyone else did in 20 years... A boat.
17:54 I love he parodies op theories and cues dramatic music 😂😭
I can always count on your take of theories and chapters as the most critical and well thought out.
i loved this !! thank youuu, this all needed to be said tbh nice observation and thinking broo keep it up. i loved this video.
I was looking forward to your take on this.
You're by far the most rational One Piece TH-camr and its nice to hear an opinion that doesnt end up down 20 rabbit holes.
Well done. This is all of the faults I had with the theory wrapped up succinctly, while still acknowledging the compelling stuff. Now I can save myself some time on discord and just link this video whenever Ohara's inevitably gets brought up
One thing that's missed is that the kozuki text is only written on one wall. Plus, this text was specifically used to encode cultural info relating to Shandora, until someone like Roger(Oden)/Luffy(Robin) came along. Similar to how Fishman Island had one ponegliff about a location & another relating to its people (Joyboy's promise). The other hieroglyphs on Shandoran architecture, such as the sacrificial alter (a 1000 years old) & the stone memorial (detailing the city layout), were not written in this text.
In the anime (both during skypeia & Oden's fb) the wall is shown to look like a ponegliff (black). Whether it is one or not, the design is out of place compared to the rest of the city, which is probably why it catches Robin's attention in passing.
That said, its still a great theory.
I’d like to add another possible clue into the mix. When we learned about the Road Poneglyphs on Zoa, we learned they told us the locations of 4 places that, when connected, pointed to the location of Raftel. I like to think the symbol for the World Government looks a lot like that. 4 points connecting at one central point. This is purely speculation, but I think the Gates of Justice at Enies Lobby could be acting as a massive “X Marks the Spot” for the location of Raftel. This is just a thought I had while reading through the Reverie Arc and should be taken as such. Of course, there are three separate Gates of Justice, so it’s hardly proof. But I think this would be a cool detail if Raftel really is under Enies Lobby. Anyway, thank you for you time
There could also be the 4th gate under water for all we know
I like that these two creators are cool with each other and this is genuinely about the theory rather than criticising content
This theory genuinely blew my mind and also convinced me to subscribe to both grand Lin review and ohara for continuous and daily injections of top tier one piece content and more crazy theories straight into my TH-cam feed
Maybe in Nolands introduction his right Eye was closed as a hint that he was or will be on the right eye part of that island - the golden city
I've wondered about Enies Lobby forever, but I recall watching Enie's Lobby Arc and thinking "that must be where the knock-up stream starts".... I think I just dismissed it as "weird", but now that I think about it there were these two incredibly bizarre behaviors of the sea, and Oda brilliantly put them right on top of one another so we'd have an overload of weird elemental phenomena (Vearth, cloud seas, skypeia, etc...). I wonder if the final road PG will "overwrite" a log pose to surf the underground currents to go to Lafftel
Love this reaction video. Particularly like the distinction between Luffy's eye and the rest of the random eyes. Though I do think Oda might've just been making Luffy's face look like the Island. Closing his eye since it would be, well you know, disturbing if he put a hole in Luffy's face.
Do you have a reaction to the big popular theory about blowing up the redline and that creates the one piece? I suspect you have some similar criticisms for that theory.
and thats what i was thinking about that cover.
I really wanna see chapters 1122 and 1127 now, since those are actual given numbers rather than some achieved by math.
I am a French woman watching an Australian man react to a German man explaining the theory of a Japanese man. God I love the Internet for that kind of stuff.
@@TEDx-BelvedereCollegeYouth and I am a Swedish man that is replying to an Irish man who is replying to a french woman who is watching a video about an Australian reacting to a german man explaining the theory of a japanese man
@@TEDx-BelvedereCollegeYouth phew that comment was hard to write
@@Fiddy. And I am a Brazillian man replying to a Swedish man that is replying to a Irish man that is replying to a French woman watching a Australian man reacting to a German man explaining a theory from a Japonse man (that, by the way, is using a mask from a French man)
If you notice in one of the first pages where we first meet kid puffy, he makes that scar under his left eye to show how tough he is. I’m thinking he was trying to gouge out his eye so he could wear a badass eyepatch, but maybe just ‘taking out his left eye’ could allude to this!
A thing that came into my mind:
Were does the water of the enies lobby waterfall goes to? Using this connective theory I thought maybe it reappears as the knock-up stream. This would even fit into the inverted natures of Rogers and Nolands stories.
a lot of this is convincing. but as a Japanese native speaker, I’m most turned down by these numbers to japanese translations. as a disclaimer, I haven’t watched the video from the original Japanese youtuber.
But, 1122/05/21 = 一つにここにいる is a stretch. to break it down, 1 = hi makes sense. 2 = ni also makes sense. but 1 = to and 2 = tu/two is definitely a stretch. 5 = koko, and the last 1 = iru, these two are just bogus. while its not uncommon in japan to use numbers to represent a sound, like in phone numbers (eg. 37-0009 = minnna maaruku a phone number for a piano company), the mix of japanese and english pronunciations and the use of completely unnatural use of some numbers puts me off.
i think some stuff is surely some foreshadowing but these number/pronunciation theories, made by a non-speaking foreigner, is to me (a japanese person) really cringey, shouldnt be taken seriously and grasping at straws kinda like the left eye coincidences that Liam pointed out.
edit: 一つにここにいる doesnt really make sense as a sentence either. it would better translate as “as one, it is here” not “the one is here”
edit 2: his next example with inin as a bell sound is also completely false. ive never heard someone in japanese refer to a bell sound as “inin” or “iin”
edit 3: I wan’t to apologize by saying this theory was first presented by a Japanese person not Ohara and to call it cringey was a bit over the top. Still I find it farfetched.
tl;dr theres so much wrong with the japanese interpretations of dates and 1121/05/21 should not be interpreted that the one piece is in jaya
So I don't speak Japanese but I checked the original theory video and used TH-cam's automatic captions feature - in Ohara's defense, the TH-camr seems to be the one making these claims, including the one about the bell sound. How unlikely would you estimate this interpretation?
Wasn't this theory originally created by a Japanese TH-camr who I presume speaks fluent Japanese? Ohara just translated and shared with the English community. I'm not saying you're wrong or not just that being a native speaker doesn't disprove it as it originates from a native speaker I believe. So really it's a bit of he said she said on the translation/number stuff
Did you know the original theory creator is a Japanese? Ohara's just translating the theory..
Hey! I also thought similarly with my basic non-existant Japanese, but picked up on things like the number one having 3-4 different names/pronunciation??
Are you going to watch the original Japanese theory video? Because if so, I would love to know if you still think it doesn't make sense or that they are reaching for something that isn't there.
so I did watch the Japanese TH-camr’s video. And it is true he does present the theory before Ohara and Ohara just translate it for the most part but I still stand by that its quite an unnatural interpretation of the pronunciation of numbers.
I did misunderstand the “inin” part as Ohara was pronouncing it a bit differently. 殷々(いんいん) though uncommon, is a way to describe a large thunderous sound. My bad on that.
Nevertheless, my point still stands that I often see foreigners interpret Japanese in mildly to completely incorrect way and that blows up into these wild theories, from such a loose Japanese interpretation. I think theres not much to come from this.
I still think this pronunciation of numbers is very unnatural and unless there are other examples of Oda using similar unnatural pronunciation of dates/numbers, I think its just another example of bending the evidence to fit a story.
Also I don’t mean it in a condescending way at all; I really really really do appreciate the world becoming increasingly more excited and interested in Japanese heritage and culture but it upsets me how sometimes an amateur understanding of the language/culture disseminated and is taken so seriously by those who don’t have any reference or knowledge of the language.
This theory genuinely did blow my mind
Truly the greatest theory of all time
Fr
U might wanna check out the theory made by totallynotmark
Same
@@moodyhamadalla8195 that theory isn't made by him, i don't even think he had any imput towards making it. He just made the video. And it's one of the theories that relies to much on finding random stuff that fits the narrative. It is probably one of the biggest reaches I've ever seen.
This was the funniest video of TheGrandLineReview, it was amazing♥️✌️
You are by far my favorite One Piece channel. I put you up there with my favorite hosts/theorists/deep divers. Erik Voss (New Rockstar), Rob (Comics Explained), and THE KING Sean Evans (First We Feast). All that out of the way. They have been putting a lot of emphases on how vast Caribous swamp fruit is inside. Him also having a full belly in the cover page. Maybe a previous wielder was able to transport the ancient city within the swamp.
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GLR the entire video: okay I like this theory, nope this seems forced, now I like it again, this doesn't seem probable, okay it seems to make sense again now 😁
Pretty much! I like some parts of it but not others ;p
Welcome to One Piece theories
@@GrandLineReview hello liam
@@technickelknowledge4950 Why hello
@@GrandLineReview it’s ahh it’s a stretch... wait a minute... he’s on to something now 🤣😂
It's interesting theory but I think he is just overthinking it. Yes, Oda is great in foreshadowing and everything but the part with Enies Lobby and Laugh Tale was already a stretch. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think Luffy and others will take such a long journey back.
i feel the same way. it doesn't make any narrative sense for them to go back.
OP was initially intended to last like 5 years so the it's not unrealistic to assume the hints and foundation laying for the "treasure" would be dropped in the early arcs i.e. near Jaya/Skypiea. Most of the current OP we know was planned after the fact. Even if Oda changed his plans , he wouldn't push such major pre planned hints way later into the story. Maybe the theory is not 100% correct about enies lobby. But there's definitely something there. We were exposed to a lot of the clues very early.
Fr. The second part is reaching way too far.
Imagine it's true and Robin finds out and she's just like "goddammit guys, we gotta go back to Enies Lobby"
for the 'strawhats wont take such a long journey back', well the strawhats NEED to atleast meet shirahoshi again right? unless Oda wants to abandon the whole ancient weapon concept. And that's gonna be like half the grand line back to fishman island.
I just watched Ohara's video on this a couple days ago and it also became my favourite theory!
This is my favorite video out of all of your stuff.
Again, I don't think the theory matches the One Piece timeline. The island of Laugh Tale is said to be located by 4 Road Poneglyphes, which were created by the Kozukis. According to this logic, Laugh Tale would never have moved (being moved to enies lobby and sinked to the bottom), because if it were moved from it's original place (Jaya, according to this theory), Roger would have never be able to find it. However, Roger did find Laugh Tale through the 4 Road Poneglyphes, and thus the island of Laugh Tale is still the last island of the grand line (located in the new world obviously), as stated by Oda himself. btw Loestar is the second to last island and the last island that can be reached with a log pose. I also think every theory about the One Piece and the D will be wrong because Oda simply did not give us enough information to work it out, I firmly believe new, mind blowing information will be presented by Oda himself regarding these topics in the next 2 years or so, and only then will we be able to reach a sounding conclusio/theory.
I agree that the Enies Lobby part is a stretch. But it seems quite likely that the Ancient Kingdom had Island moving capabilities, possibly even several. Just look at Wano which seems to be several grandline islands moved right next to each other. We know the ancient kingdom was allies with Zou and Fishman Island which have Zushina and Poseidon respectively.
I agree with you, this theory messes up the fact that Laugh Tale is supposed to be the actual last island. In my opinion it is located under Reverse Mountain in a trench which coincidentally is one of the 2 centers of the world, the other being Mariejois.
Laugh Tale is the last island since Roger was the first to found it and named it as such.
But it would have been moved before the kozuki made the poneglyphes. Someone would have moved the island (maybe a dragon hum) and them the kozuki made the poneglyphes to say where they put it, since there would be no need for a map if the island had not been moved, everyone on that timeline around the lost century would know where their home place was. I don't know about it being at enies lobby, but that part makes a lot of sense for me.
And Roger laughing could just mean that joy boy put the island in a very obvious place. Plus there are a lot of reasons for the strawhats to go back to that region of the grand line, around eneis lobby, marejois and fishman island,, the finale will probably be there, while laugth tale is on the otehr side of the world. Roger says there is one more island and he thinks is after the last island, but he says that before knowing its location
Also in my opinion it would be very anti climatic if they found the poneglyphes and just went a little furter in the new world to find laugh tale, there is probably something more there.
There is no information about if or when it got moved. I guess it is assumed that someone, for whatever reason, moved Laugh Tale and then built the poneglyphs so the island still can be found.
The thing is, if the one piece was under enies lobby the world government would know it, it would know that Roger went there because it is a protected site, so that part does not make much sense, that is where the whole theory falls apart complete for me
I love how you analyze everything perfectly with a cool head
Edit 1: Also Enies Lobby was not destroyed by a buster call?
Edit 2: Thanks for all the likes ^^
U know a movie called drishyam
Well it is in hindi so I will say what happens
Those who intend to watch it dont see my comment below
So in the movie , the culprit in the end hides the dead body at below of police station when it was in construction so that police wont auspect their own land and at the end he escapes
Similarly who wonderful it would be if roger hided his treasure under enies lobby where world govt wont suspect and it would be more than tough enough for any pirate to paas through enies lobby even if he /she finds it out
what if Roger infiltrated Enies and that gave him his bounty ??
Unless another popular theory is also true, which is that the OnePiece is actually all of the oceans being combined into one (piece), also known as the All Blue and the destruction of the world government/freeing of the world.
So Laughtale might simply hold the key to achieving this, which was left there by Joyboy many many years ago and discovered by Roger, the world government/ Imu probably know this and thus decided to guard it by planting themselves right on top of it (or the other way around considering Laughtale might have been moved).
And yeah how Roger got to Laughtale isn't clear but it's not unthinkable that there's some hidden way to get down there and at least it's more believable than it being some random island, somewhere out in the sea that for years nobody has accidentally stumbled onto (granted Wano is a thing but hey weather be scary sooo).
Plus the pre timeskip Strawhats also literally raided Enise Lobby so it's not unthinkable that the freakig Roger pirates at their peak simply walked past/through the Navy to get down there for a quick look.
So the theory is not that unlikely as it might seem if you assume that the OnePiece isn't just a huge pile of gold but something much bigger that the world government can't simply get rid of but only hide from the world.
@@free4fire Bro Oda said one piece is a thing not a place
@@free4fire according to WB last word, when someone find One piece it would start a war, so what now? they start world war because someone find bunch fish in one location?🤣🤣 WB also mention One piece as "it" in "things" not something vague like all sea connected, this also supported by what oda said, about one piece, it something you can get not something like friends you make along the way or something vague but definitely a "thing".
edit : the theory of destroying redline is interesting and I believe that they would happen but calling all the sea that connected is one piece just, meh it maybe would be okay if someone else write the story and choose that, but this is Oda, One piece gonna be something that extraordinary.
Something cool is that on Rodgers death scene originally, we zoom out in the plaza of the loguetown center. There we see, as Rodger is talking about the one piece, two blue circles which could refer to the two islands
Hey Liam i am new on the channel so i am here to say hi! I am Greek and i never heard of the word enies means Ship in ancient Greek or at least a type of ship but i cant say was good in ancient Greek back in school or later! But the word Enies in Greek with different spelling actually means meanings!
19:32 Liam, you may not believe what you're saying but this is now a part of my headcanon
And yes I'd gladly watch an Australian man react to a German man who reacted to a Japanese man dressed like a French artist
I will say about Bellamy's scar, look how it wraps around the left eye? Almost like the missing outer edge of the islands left eye... the D represents a big smile like :D, a common time to be smiling like that? When your laughing.
I laughed the entire time you were presenting "706 symbolism" because it really goes to show how easy it is to say everything has a connection, you displayed that perfectly
That was hilarious when you chose a random number and started to make a theory . 🤣
Funny Aussie man and his funny words back his amazing One Piece content.
You should subscribe to him so you can get that amazing one piece content straight to your youtube feed
^ This guy gets it.
@@GrandLineReview do you watch my hero academia cuz u r being all might in 15:20.25
This video made my day. Thank you
5:11 is that a jjk reacton shot on our beloved grand line review🙀mr geto will be having words with new world review
I always mistrust people who phrase all of their conclusions as questions. Phrases like "wouldn't it make sense that..?" or "doesn't it seem fitting that..?" are not answers on their own haha - they just trick you into thinking they making a statement
Yea it kinda reminds me of the ancient aliens show which annoyed me with those phrases
Bruh it's a theory he isn't answering a question that a teacher asked he is theorizing it if he says it like yea you dumasses the one piece is here and it fell from skypiea the people would hate him this is a theory this isn't oda making his story
@@rdblocks5490 Nah.
In the real world, theory is NOT about coming up with answers through random connections.
For example, in science or history, when finding connections you must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these connections are related. Or remove reasons for why it can't be explained by something else, such as random coincidence.
You can't just say "wouldn't it be cool?", or "wouldn't it make sense if..."
You'd be laughed out of the room if you did that. Ohara's resons were... pointing out all the characters with scars on their right eyes, and vague word play from 800 chapters ago - back when Oda thought this was only gonna be a 5 year stoy. It's not a very strong case, and the way he talked about his points like they were big revelations was annoying. Especially because you have to look past all that fluff to find the actual good stuff. Liam pointed that out.
To convince people, you need to spend most of your time on WHY it's connected beyond a reasonable doubt, while disproving other reasons like coincidence.
Ohara didn't do that.
@@IbbyMelbourne ohara is just another fan sharing his thoughts. He ain't some professional theorist so cut him some slack
Oda watching this theory: "Fine. What's another 24 years. I can always start again"
I can always make a new one piece 😂
Oda did say if he wrote everything he wanted in one piece it would never end, so he probably has a lot more material than just this.
@@ARE.0 fr I remember that
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Dude now he shows laughter and Nika!!! Crazy the foreshadowing of Oda and they closely found it but didn’t delve deeper
Can you do more one piece theory reaction and response video? Like Law is a sword member or other strong theories, would really like to see what you have to say about those theories.