The Archetypal Structure of the Movie "Gladiator" | Jordan B Peterson
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- Part of the moral of the movie "Gladiator" is that it's better to be a soldier than a coward.
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Keeping you and your wife in our prayers, Dr. P.
Gladiator is what our family watches at home when we get together during the holidays.
Devin Bielejec ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
@@clxwncrxwn IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?
That's wonderful.
That's beautiful
One of the few movies that made me cry at the end. It gets me every time.
When the music builds up at the end always gets me, nearly getting me thinking about it now.
Clearly you haven't watched E.T. ... ;)
Dang it got an Indian dude from across the planet to get jordan to watch gladiator XDD
I could also imagine jordan watching the film with a studying gaze.
*mhhmm yes, structure*
no. The Substructure rules them all.
@@JakubFerenc1911 well it depends what you mean but substructure
It's not as deep a movie as the Indian dude thinks. He stated that he believes its archetypal substructure is crucially important and relevant to our culture today, but to be completely honest, if that were true, Jordan would have dug into its themes long ago.
He is not "Indian" He is a dutch born having parents from Surinam, of hindustani descent.
Nice to hear you again. You're just indispensable to us Jordan. A great thinker, a great man. That's so rare. Thank you!
Love his pronunciation of Joaquin lol
That's how a lot of people overseas pronounce it. It's just a difficult name to pronounce if you haven't heard it pronounced before.
Maximus wasn’t just a soldier, he was “The General” of the Roman Army who was known throughout the land.
What I found made him more likeable is that he never had the need to flaunt or even mention his status. In fact he shied away from it. Which means he never had the need for entitlement in thinking he was better than anyone. He never complained about how “this shouldn’t be happening to him”. Instead he beared his burden w/grace and still held his head high w/dignity even though being cast into slavery. He also chose to raise each man’s dignity that was imprisoned with him. This is what true leadership is. Amazing power, strength, grace and dignity who elevates and serves as a guide to those around him no matter the situation.
Also that and he was played by Russell Crowe who is a Badass @ that role and owning it. No one could’ve pulled it off like he did. He IS Maximus Decimus Meridius!
A true leader of people.
He was also known as Naughtius Maximus
Jonny Little , well analyzed !
To add to your statement, Maximus leads by example not by word or title. He never expects anything of his men that he would not do himself. As a counterexample, Commodious wants to be Emperor precisely so he does not have to do the things he does not want to do. He wants to be elevated over other men through use of power whereas Maximus is elevated by his comrades due to his competence and Maximus always seems uncomfortable with that elevation. Maximus is George Washington, the reluctant leader who consciously rejects absolute power because they feel no man is worthy of absolute power.
Beautiful comment
JP....really nice to see you! For those that contribute so much to humanity and our development. May all be well to you and your family. We need you my friend!
Fellow fighter for a truer existence!
Love it. I worked in a cinema when it came out and must have watched in 30 times, and much more since. Might take another look tonight!
Triumph of good over evil is very reassuring to the human spirit. Our admiration of heroes emboldens us who are weakened by oppression because it gives us hope.
JP Starts at 3:12
Thank YOU! This interviewer is the most disrespectful and hubristic. hogging the narrative , "yeah", and whatever he can do to insert himself. I'll try to chop him out an reissue this, unless someone else has done it.
I could never quite put my finger on why I watched Gladiator especially more in hard times. I knew the quotes were very inspiring from multiple characters, but the movie emboldens me.
It wasn't until my recent watching of the movie on my phone that I realized. As I watched this man Maximus on my screen, my wife kept interrupting me to show me funny videos of grown "men" do dance videos on TikTok.
This is when I saw it plainly. The film is about manhood and what it is to be a man. Everyone in the film serves as a foil to Maximus. Commodus most of all.
Maximus doesn't experience a character arc. He remains the same from start to finish. The setting, the plot, the scheming politics, the spectacular battles are just the vehicle in which to show the substance of the film which is what a masculine man looks like and should be.
Praying for Dr. Jordan's health
Hello Dr. Peterson. I'm a big fan, love your work. I have a question, do you by any chance have any plans to visit Nigeria? I may be wrong, but I don't think you've ever visited Africa. I feel you have a lot of silent fans over here who would love a chance to actually meet the man who have done a lot to help a lot of our young people rise up from the mire and improve their lives for the better. Would actually pay good money to see and hear you speak in person.
Ps...Welcome back JP!
Missed you man...❤️
You’re our Maximus in today’s world.
Johnny Little unfortunately this is a clip from an old video.
Glad to see Jordan, me and a work college we’re talking highly about your work today, we thought you were brilliant 🇮🇪👍
My dad's always been Mr quiet -construction-worker-tough-stoic- guy, and I grew up never-worked-out-didn't-even-know-what-hard-work-was kid. I found it difficult to connect with him growing up (not anymore👍) but I tell ya what, if ever there was a thing that helped eventually start bridging the gap, it was The Gladiator (and the Rambo movies)
Good shit.
Man I'd love to hear Dr. Peterson talk about Avatar: The Last Airbender someday
Lol, yeah well, Jordans just been through a level of hell with his wife being ill, I wouldn't put him through another dose by watching The Last Airbender...he doesn't need any more pain!
I'd like to hear his thoughts on Joker, but yea, not a good time.
@@anthonybrett Not the movie....
@@Enoughdata Ah, sorry, my bad. But I warn thee...dont watch that movie!...you'll never look upon M.Night Shyamalan the same way again!
@@anthonybrett Yeah I've already seen it XD the show, on the other hand, is an absolute masterpiece.
Praise our lord ! Prayers 🙏
Good to see Jordan back in good health
I might be wrong but I think this is an old video. I vaguely remember watching it before.
That was my initial thought, but I do think this is an older video. I hope JBP is doing better everyday and producing new material soon. He is definitely a treasure!
Luke Bostwick Hmm, probably right. I hope he is on the mend.
Olllld Clip
@@tom_olofsson Based on the video his daughter posted last week, hes getting better, which is great to hear.
JOOORDAAAANN!!!♡♡♡♡♡♡ the archetypal modern father
Gladiator is a movie of Biblical proportions. Everything in there is true and in balance. Maximus is the shit, even when all collapses he gets it right no matter what, mainly out of honor and competence.
"Everything in there is true and in balance"
No, its not. The way how Juba, the "numidian" is portrayed is not correct. The Numidians or Numidia is present day Algeria. North Africans are fellow mediterranean people.
Nice lecture Doc lol
Jordan, you forgot that Maximus is a farmer as well.
OH WHAT THE FUCK, THIS DUDE INTERVIEWS JORDAN PETERSON AGAIN?! FUCK YEAH.
Gladiator is a copy of Braveheart, they even wanted Mel Gibson to start in Gladiator. He was the first choice but he refused it saying he's to old for playing Maximus. He also didn't want to play Braveheart because he considered he was to old for the role, but had to accept because that was the condition to get the finance in order to produce the movie ... Peter Jackson said that the LORT trilogy was influenced by Braveheart, also 300 was. So the "real" idea of this kind of movies is actually Braveheart
jackwin feenix - lol - it's wakeen!
Please improve the audio quality
Hard to understand this because I forgot about the movie Gladiator's story. I loved the film though. To me sacrifice is important. It is the high ground that you go though when you need to sacrifice your life for others or country. I never did however, Jesus did for us.
An honerable and loyal soldier of high rank gets done dirty after a succession. He starts from the bottom with honor and revenge as a drive to exact justice and restore order while knowingly sacrificing himself in the process for the greater good. thats what i got from the movie.
Bio-Hazard Fallout well said
Don´t forget the Count of Mount Cristo.....
This is new Peterson!? Looking good! Hope your healing! Love you!
@@solaveritas2 damn
Is this video recent while Mr Peterson is in Russia whilst in rehab or prerecorded from months ago?
Well to be talking to an Indian like he actually knows something; proves Jordan had to be using Drugs lol
@@stewybaby4 Shut the hell up you ignorant fool
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Maybe try to improve sound quality a bit? This was literally painful for my ears to listen to.
Now that Dr. Peterson has finally watched Gladiator, he really needs to read Marcus Aurelius's *Meditations.* I hope he'll find out that the pursuit of truth and Western/European logos predates Christianity by many, many centuries. Besides, Christianity stole the four Cardinal Virtues of Stoicism!
In the book Revelation, chapter 21, it says that cowards (among others) will be sent to the lake of fire (hell).😨
Get a better microphone.
Peterson should be not asking what is logos, but who is logos. Look up the Gospel of John for the answer...
Maxiumus is noy nearly as well remembered as aragorn lmao.
ara who?
This guy saying gladiator and maximus is more relevant than lotr and a better archetype than Aragon is the biggest load of subjective BS I've heard in a minute. LOTR has way more cultural relevance to this day and maximus is by no means more obviously a better embodiment of the male archetype
Didn't Aragon run away from responsability?
@@sebsebseb1905 aragorn did. Thats the whole story.
@@AB-eq9mm so I remembered corectly that means op is wrong about Aragon being a better archetype than Maximus.
@@sebsebseb1905 you completley miss the point. Aragon did not "run away", he felt that he would be doomed to repeat the failures of his forefathers. So instead of holding onto the crown out of pride, he felt the greatest service to his people would be to cast it away instead as he felt his blood was no longer worthy. In fact, this is a perfect image of man as allegorical sons of Adam- as the biblical mythos is that we are all sons of a fallen father. And Aragons development is realizing that our strength and virtue, true righteousness cannot come from ourselves but through service and sacrifice for others.
Wellll...gotta disagree.
Gladiator is great but I'm unconvinced that Maximus "sticks" *more* than Aragorn, Leonidas or William Wallace. There's really no reason why that's obvious.
More than leonidas. Probably equal to aragorn or william wallace.
@@AB-eq9mm I think it depends where you are. Obviously, Leonidas and Wallace are national heroes in their respective homelands so they would resonate more in Greece and Scotland, respectively.
Yes to each his own, for me Gibson's William Wallace archetype "stuck" more in my mind compared to the other mentioned ones, there are many variables for a fictional (or real) character to have a lasting impression on one's mind, for instance your age, life experience...etc
@@Defsolid Yeah. There'll be a bit of variation depending of your relative circumstances. But what's important and interesting to do is try to figure out what are common traits among all of those guys. Those are the REAL archetypally heroic traits that we gotta pay attention to. The ways in which they're different isn't that important imo.
Dude hes Indian im surprised he didnt say Indiana Jones is better than Maximus
Aragorn is he King. Who do you think you're fooling worshiping some spaniard with a sword
mr. Peterson the carnivore diet will not sustain you. you need fiber (I use organic psyllium husk powder very important its organic), minerals, vitamins, probiotics in order of importance for you. Magnesium itself supports 300 different enzyme function. and you need to add in some super supplements like apple cider vinegar, maybe Ginger, turmeric would probably be very good for you just mix a spoonful with water add some black pepper to make it 10 times more effective, maybe an avocado a day for healthy fat content, creatine for your brain, juice some vegetables (celery beats kale very good choices) throwing in an apple for flavor. before I allow myself to learn I decided I need to have my diet and exercise in check so I can sustain a long life of learning and work at bare minimum you need 15 minutes of cardio a week or 15 minutes a day. you have enough money so contact Thomas Delauer a very strong scientific dietitian (also has a TH-cam channel) also Ben Greenfield could probably help you with your food sensitivities.
Collagen is also very good
I think JP is smart enough to educate himself on the carnivore diet before doing it.
then again successful people have horrible diets look at Warren Buffett