370 WHP Supercharged Porsche 928S - One Take
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This 1988 Porsche 928S is a higher-mile example that was used as a daily driver for 11 years before being configured with its current VCB Engineering Rotrex Supercharger Kit and tuned by ATS Racing of Denton, TX. It makes 370 WHP on just 5 PSI of boost. It features an updated suspension with Koni 3-way adjustable shocks.
Special thanks to ATS Racing of Denton, TX for having me out to drive all these great cars! If you have and oddball car that needs forced induction, give ATS Racing a call!
Special thanks to Eagles Canyon Raceway for the track time! For track rental or membership inquiry visit: eaglescanyon.com/
Special thanks to Mason Bleadsell and Thomas Le for the cover photos and drive-by shot assistance. www.bleasdellph...
Thanks for driving the car Matt, was a hell of a fun day hanging out at ECR and hearing your comments on the group we brought out. Looking forward to the rest of the reviews from the day.
Thanks for letting me have a go! It was such a fun day and you guys have a great crew.
Aren't you the Sean on the forums with the white track 928?
That belt is actually pretty awesome
STRGHTSXBNZ ehh, doesn't compare to mission belts
LOL, first time I've ever actually clicked on the link for one of his sponsors. I'm always stuck in between holes on my belt and can never get them to fit right.
Burt Sampson they deteriorate quickly...
Those MVMT watches are pretty legit too.
felt weird because this is the first time i was not annoyed the first minute
You can swap in the Corvette C5 or C6 6 speed manual into these cars. There are kits made to do this and some of us owners have already done it (not me). For anyone concerned, Sean is one of the most well known 928 mechanics in the US, he's based in Texas as you can tell and does great work. In SoCal we have Greg Brown at Precision Motorwerks and he is the king of making mods to bring the 928 up to date with modern GT cars.
Zero Cool yes. I would stick with the stock 928 engine though to keep the character and that the crank is forged (good for 900+ hp) and the stock rarst rods are good for 500hp boosted on daily driven cars. They are stout engines.
A 928 has a torque tube and rear transaxle stock, so a c5 conversion.....
..wonder if u could fab a fitment for an STi 6-speed manual gearbox? Would probably be a good transmission for this car..
Who would cheapen this car by installing a cheap ass GM pushrod V8?
This is by far the favorite car of all of the 67 cars in my life. Yes, I have had faster, handled better, braked better, better mpg; yet this car has a soul that not even my 02 911T does not have. It is that sound at start up that gets the hard on in the AM.
I love seeing these skyrocket in value, when I can't afford one (especially the GTS). One of my fav cars ever.
The same guy in WI, Carl Fausset, installed a C5 zo6 trans axel in my 1986.5. It's in a refresh right now, but the swap livens the car up and changes the final drive from 2:20 to 3:42 with an OD 6th.......much better gearing. If you ever get to meet him you'll be even more impressed with the 928. He owns 928 Motorsports.
Bought an S4 last summer and ordered some parts from him this fall.
Another great resource is 928 Specialists, they also have a number of 928 specific enhancements. I've ordered from them and Mr. Fausset and have an excellent opinion of both companies.
Did you say the 928 had 1:2.20 rear end gearing?! Wtf lol that’s crazy low
220k miles and it’s still performing after only changing the fuel pump. I’m getting one of these for sure!
That Zip-tie belt is my dream Car.
Ahmed360 the smoking belt
I miss my 928. She tore through road trips like nothing.
1983 S. Wish I still have it.
I had an 83.5 S and miss it too. Great car
First car I did over 150 mph in 😊
928 the best porsche ever made !
ive owned every yr of 928 from 78 through 87, the quality is unbelievable and remember the 87 broke the non aspirated prod. speed doing over 170 mph
Best P?
962.
Sounds like you've only driven a 928
Somehow, this is the only channel I almost never skip the sponsor bit !
I still think the exterior of these cars is very attractive and has held up well over time as a very classic look. I also love the sound of the 928 V8 as it is pretty fantastic.
Love this, to think this car was meant to replace the 911 to get rid of the rear engine stigma! Shame it never caught on as now porsche produce loads of front engined cars
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MONKY LONDON It never caught on because it wasn't as unique and the Corvette was much more affordable.
It was also one of the transaxle cars! That means it had the transmission at the back and the engine in the front, for great weight distribution and a very high polar moment of inertia (resistance to spinning out, makes them feel very stable at the limits). The 928 lasted as long as the entire 924/944/968 run, which were the other three Porsche transaxle cars :)
It did....it's called the Panamera now...;)...it was just that far ahead of its time.
MONKY LONDON fist bump :)
This is a car that deserves to be stick shift
I have a 1995 925 GTS Manual - UK Reg, she is the dream.
They're in texas it's just flat straight line highways so unless the guy tracks it a stick is kind of irrelevant. Basically it might as well be a 1/4 mile or highway pull car out there which automatics are best for anyways.
Kanaric sounds like you wouldn't understand!
@@kanaric You obviously have only been to far West Texas and know nothing about the rest of the state.
Rory Crisp-Jones my dad had a 93 gts. I was only 11 when he sold it but I still kinda drove it
The crazy thing is that the 928's body lines are as contemporary as any modern GT coupe offering. That engine sounds great!
It could easily be from the late 90s or early 2000s. Contemporary/modern ? No. Not enough unnecessarily weird angles and creases
It actually resembles a 911 from the profile view
@@dr.lyleevans6915 Indeed. The 911 has filled out quite a bit over the years.
YasumotoUS It sure has. I’ve been eyeing a 996 (I know they get hate, but for the money they’re amazing. Plus I’m 100% sure it’s a good investment). I’ve owned a 986 Boxter before. I prefer lighter sports cars; I love American muscle too. Corvettes are surprisingly light considering.
@@dr.lyleevans6915 Funny, I have been checking out 996 / 997 carrera 4's and 4S's... some interesting price points and AWD is very attractive for the US Mid-Atlantic
I have a 84 with a 85 4 speed auto ready for future ( soon ) turbo charger. It is very easy to fix that ( lazy ) feel of the transmission . Take the vacuum module hose off and plug the hose. Crank the T screw on 4 full turns OR MORE and tighten up the kick down cable as much as you can . It will shift like a race car. Higher rpm and each shift feels like you hit something. This does ZERO harm The shift hardness can be adjusted with the module t screw . this makes a HUGE difference BIG TIME. Mine also ALWAYS starts in 1st gear. I have a feeling someone did a valve body modification to make that happen.
I've spent some time in a 928 as well, they really are great GT cars. I'd agree, surprisingly quick and capable, and that one was stock. Would love to see how this feels, it sounds great and looks like it moves just as well!
TheSmokingPorsche, featuring occasional videos of other cars. :P
At least it is not another 911. 928 is possibly the coolest Porsche ever IMO.
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Back in the days, these cars came along like space ships.
I always think of Risky Business when I see these cars
..what about Scarface?
..i think there was one in of those "Brat-Pack" movies from the 80's also, not The Breakfast Club but i think in Adventures in Babysitting, if my memory serves me... bear the beginning of the movie someone gets dropped off at school in one i think.. always loved that car as a child in the 80's and tended to notice if it made any cameo appearances in films, as far as i was concerned it always stole the show. What a beautiful car!
I have wanted 1 since i show that movie in 86 😍
Risky busineas car was a proper manual ...remember Rebecca DeMornae knocking the shifter into neutral grabbing her purse sending it into the lake. Also the nice clutch dump right turn power slide by the stunt driver running from Guido the Killer Pimp!!
Ah yes ,the German U- boat...lol
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Iceland isn't real smh EARTH is flat
Yeah I've never met anyone from Iceland so it's probably a myth imo
I use to sell there jackets, very nice kit.
That belt is fucking awesome tbh
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Love 928's. Would love to see a sort of restomod where the V8 drivetrain etc from a Panamera would be swapped into a 928 or 968.
Insert "LS swap it" comments here
Pretty sure an LS has been put in just about everything already, including a 928. Know they are in 924's and 944's as well as 911's. Nothing wrong with it either, just think an all Porsche swap would be cool.
How can anyone fit an LS into a 924 that just had a 4 cylinder?.. This is giving me an idea that might just be stupid enough to work about finding one in the EU and trying to carb it to run in a Renault 12 shell :|
The engine bay is very Miata like (large for the cars size), and similarly, Porsche's 4 Cylinder is pretty big and heavy, while an LS is pretty compact and light for what it is. A quick google will show its been done alot. The weakness on the 924 swap is its transmission. The same with some 944's, I don't remember which transmission numbers it is though. Likely all older Porsche's have an LS swap version.
Where would the driver sit, though?..
Awesome review ! Love the 928 and would love to have one beside my 1994 ZR-1 . This one sounds absolutely wonderful and looks fantastic !
What a lovely sound from that engine!
Such a great looking car. A Porsche I would actually buy!
miss my 928. the breaks were an issue so I upgraded lines, fluid, breaks and rotors to 993 turbo rotors and calipers. made so much of a difference. no more soft feel after a few hot laps.
I have two 928s. One is a 79 euro and one is an 83 928s. Great cars in almost every way with or without the manual.
Not going to lie...I do love my Anson Belt...
That belt was the first promo you've run that didn't make me cringe at any point. More stuff like that.
Andrew Elias But what about your ball sweat?
Wonderful! LOVE the 928! Almost bought one a year ago.
I feel like this was the start of Porsche tinkering with V8s giving us the Cayenne the Panamera and later the 918
But the cayenne and the panamera are the least exciting porsches, too
Ever driven a Panemera? Especially the new one?
Mike Arredondo is
Panamera is a beautiful car, I'd put it over a 996 911 any day. And the other 911 are way more expensive
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Really love these 928s, I would kill to have one with less than perfect paint if it ran as good and sounds as heavenly as this one!!!! Cheers Matt from TX
The 928's were true GT cars and the build quality was exceptional in its time. Supercharged versions are not common, but the options has been around for many years. An amazing car and not many around anymore. Wish Matt would actually share the history of this platform, they were expensive to make and the power train wasn't the most reliable, but the aftermarket support today enables owners to rebuild the cars with modern day, high quality parts and the outcome is glorious! If you can find one, get one. Invest in one a bit and you'll be rewarded with a world class GT German car. Like most all Porsche's, these cars will be timeless.
What mods do you suggest i cant find any much that would suit the car. Just performance and stiffening mods which goes against the nature of the car imo
The various 928 models are some of the best kept secrets in the automotive world. Most are kept relatively stock, but there are some modded beasts out there.
A Rotrex S/C is always cool to hear about. Nice little set up.
It's quite amazing that this car originally came 1978 and this facelift 1987. Name another car that has aged so well and still looks as modern. Can't think of any.
One thing I don't understand though... those white turn signals. They make ANY classic look cheap and trashy. Just saw perfect Mercedes 560 SEC yesterday but it had ugly white turn signals that ruined the car. Why not keeping it all original? It might be just me though. Haha. Thanks for another cool video of a great car.
2:39 That's my Fuzzy's cup. Still salty about that.
Thank you to Eagles Canyon for letting us use your facilities.
RyanRants what ?
In the filter. That's my cup.
Well Shit. Should’ve stopped by my house and taken the 94 ZR1 for a spin.
pleas email him, people need to see the king of the hill.
Bro I hope it isn’t too late. You never see those anymore 😲
just wait until tomorrow.
ZR1 LT5 Chris would love to see that on a track.
ZR1 LT5 Chris nice ! Shoot him an email ! I spoke to Matt we were trying to organize some cars including my ZR-1 but were up here in Canada 🇨🇦 and it didn’t quite pan out last season !
Answer to "Hissing sound" brainfart at 6:17 is blowoff valve (bov) or compressor bypass valve (cbv). Same-same. Cheers from San Diego.
CalvinDoesThings Okay. Regardless of the bleed path (whether it be atmosphere or recirculatory) my previous statements still hold. I am not sure how, or if, your comment added any value.
>irregardless
RyanRants hydration is essential!!
If you guys aren't Certified TH-cam mechanics don't give advice
@CalvinDoesThings
Sure the technical term for it isn't compressor surge? Nowhere for boost to escape other than through the supercharger itself, hence the surging noise.
I'm going to miss the advertisements more than the one takes
West Senkovec lol
I usually don't check out the ads but that belt is bad ass!!! I just ordered one. 👍
Except for the modern Porsche supercars, 928s are my favorite Porsche. Didn't know they existed until seeing Risky Business in high school, then I even had a poster of one back in the day. The lines look fantastic in person and I like the engine sounds so much better than a flat 6.
Can Matt do a vape review and name the episode one vape
Ben Troy It has to be dabs tho
Call it the two toke..
Ben Troy no
Or conversely, can you just not
Cool vid, I love older Porsche. I had a 944turbo, that 928 reminds me of those to some extent.
Easily one of the first cars I would buy if I had money to start my oddball car collection.
Has a very sweet sounding exhaust note. :)
These belts are actually made from full-grain leather, which is really impressive. So many belts out there use "genuine leather" which is just that bonded leather crap that will just crack and fall apart after a few months of use. Full-grain is good stuff.
Super neat car! The pic is great... From some angles the car looks ungainly to me, but the preview pic is gorgeous.
Bought one for my dad for xmas & he loves it.
Beautiful car, and it sounds great!
This is literally the only track I've driven at yet because they had a free, open track day to one of the Texas car communities i was involved in. I didn't have a "fun" car at the time, just my stock, automatic Scion XA commuter with 185/15 tires. Drums in the rear. What a stupid, incredibly slow paced, wonderful day.
That belt actually looks great, I'm gonna order.
Kool idea loving them belts awesome 928 man love em
The car's pretty cool. Eagles Canyon leaves a lot to be desired for the casual track day enthusiast though, primarily in terms of price and availability.
Queque In the automatic haters lol. Beautiful car. Love the rotrex. Have one on my TL with a supercharger kit from the Andy, the guy with the 700hp tl you reviewed before
You should really go see Carl in Wisconsin to witness their beasts of 928’s
That was a great pitch on the commercial at the beginning.
I had a neighbor that 10 years ago I offered to buy his 928s that needed a little work (needed a trans). At the time its good was starting to rust from sap eating the paint as it sat underneath a pine tree, tires where flat, it was iffy but had good compression. It was still sitting there about two years ago rusted to shit with what looked like mold inside the windows.
I don't know why he didn't sell it so it could have a happy life.
The belts are a good product, Matt. Fair play.
Matt wish you was going to the project car challenge with the mustang would be amazing to watch that thing is beautiful.
Lol you trip me out Matt as such a heavy car guy you are.
When I was a kid I remember going LACR and seeing a supercharged 928 run 11’s on street tires. That car beat on 2 brand new at the time Cobra mustangs all night long. I got a soft spot for these fersure
Oh man my dad had 2 of these. 1 red supercharged and 1 black naturally aspirated. SO FUN TO RIDE IN but he sold the red one because he slid out on a corner and wrecked the rear right side and hid it from me and my brother for a while until he fixed it and sold it. Then in 2017 we sold our black 928 to buy a boat.
Unless he put an S4 body kit it's a 928 S4
Ok, imagine this car with the modern 8-speed PDK from the new 971 Panamera.
and up the boost..
Love Rotrex, smallish numbers for a V8. My k20 makes almost 400whp on 8 pounds of boost (looking for more by doing a return line and e85). But it’s a 928. I’d love to buy one some day.
That thing makes such a great noise.
That zip tie belt is badass!
Whoa you went to my spot at ECR! Damn challenging track.
Honest belt commercial.
SERIOUSLY time to rename this channel the porsche review show🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴
I've always wanted one because my father had one. That damn timing belt keeps me from seriously looking for one.
I like that the engine is in front instead of the trunk.
This was my dream car in the 90's, never mind the fact it was already 20 years old...
Such a good looking car
I owned a 968 in the early nineties and that had as standard exactly the same steering wheel as in the featured 928. If I remember correctly it was made by Momo. It may be worth looking at their website.
Pretty sweet 928! could use some help in the dampening department seems a little soft. I could swear I saw some under steer
I have a 1989 928 in the garage. Fun car. Tons of problems but runs strong
I must have the lemon version. Mint ones r great w good maintenance. If u bought a cheap lemon sample then different story
@Mattfarah, that is blow off to release the built up boost when you release the throttle. Im with the people, this car needs a standard transmission
Watching you mess with with the climate controls made me giggle a bit. I own 2 928s and love them both. My 89 just hit 200K miles as my daily, try doing that in a 328 (it's Ferrari competition).
I’d love a 928 to complement my 944T. Such a cool car, I’d pick it over any GT car today
I liked the 928 when it came out looked like a lot of potential, but I guess people weren't quite ready for it. With a manual this would be cool.. Would have been nuts to see that 1000 hp one....
Real talk that zip-tie belt is cool af.
been talking quite some shit about R53 coopers. I have 155k mile 03 cooper s and it drives amazing, too bad im from NY pretty sure youd be impressed by it
Nice looking 928
Really wish I wouldn't known you were in my area Matt. Although my Genesis is beat up (stupid drivers in Dallas) I think you might have liked a go in a 4.6L V8 Genesis sedan.
The 928 was a good clean looking car and a manual would have probably been a lot more fun. I think it’s aged well and still looks great and would be a great and enjoyable collector car for years to come....
The hissing noise is compressor surge, which is actually from a lack of a BOV.
Nope, there is a BOV on there, and that's what you are hearing.
Is the bov venting back into intake? I guess so. I have mag clutch so when backoff i bypass round supercharger and declutch. Gets rid of the very ordinary noise. Cool car! I do recall a turbo v8 in aus years ago..ca nt recall exact hp but north of 600. It was a beast but I always wondered what a rebuild with forget internals would run to on a porsche v8..scary I expect.
It's venting to atmosphere. I've got the plumbing to route it back to the intake (pre SC) but when the rad blew on the dyno and not being able to quickly modify the replacement to put the other intake snout on, I left it all off. Much louder this way and that's what you are hearing.
Compressor surge happens on throttle not off throttle.
Looks great.Sounds fantastic.Needs a manual trans.
I'm sorry but I too bough Anson belts and the bucket on 1 broke and the replacement was scratched. Next one came with part of the finish gone. The Kore essentials was better. Buckle isn't as lose and is smaller. Got the one that looks like a normal buckle E shape. The leather for Anson was fine and is interchangeable but the cloth ones I got from Anson 2 have completely fallen apart.
I can't imagine using an automatic transmission car around a racetrack - without a modern paddle shifter, that is. Sounds really good, though. Love the car otherwise. That noise is probably from the blow-off valve, not a wastegate (wastegates are on a turbo's exhaust side, rather than the compressed air side going into the cylinders) - sometimes supercharger companies put them on centrifugal chargers so they can use a smaller pulley and build power at lower rpm, then vent the excess pressure at high rpm so the engine doesn't blow. They are common on turbos, but not as much on superchargers. But centrifugal chargers don't have the linear boost of a roots-type charger - they really build in the higher rpm ranges. So to move the torque to lower rpm, mid-range is "over-boosted" and the blow-off valve vents the excess. He boosted very mildly - 5 pounds - so he probably did this to fatten up the torque curve by bringing in the 5 lb boost earlier.
TheSmokingTire I'm going to do my one take there for my truck, since I'm from Dallas anyways. I just need to do my ls swap into my truck and then bolt a 4 link cantilever kit on the rear.
Please review a 968!!!
Id love to see one of those in the show...
Yeah Matt u nred to do some history reading on the 928 it was made to to replace the 911 so it had to be good on the track
That belt was actually kind of legit...
928 auto's start out from a stop in 2nd gear if you leave shifter in drive, to get best launch/accel', you gotta drop it into a lower gear and shift it "manually".
Arguably my favorite "real" car of all time.
Nice car. I have also 928 with big turbo stick shift
Eagles CANYON Raceway, not Eagles Creek, for those interested in the track. eaglescanyon.com/
That thing has a rear transaxle, right? A torque-tube connecting the front-mounted engine to the transaxle in the rear, right? So you’d expect its balance to be pretty good, I would think... Especially with the engine being mounted with its center of gravity just behind the front wheels. I don’t know off the top of my head, but I’d bet it’s pretty darn close to 50/50 weight balance.