New 27-Inch iMac (2020) VS iMac Pro! Is It An iMac Pro KILLER?!
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- The new 27-inch iMac 5K (2020) is a tempting machine. It sports a lot of changes over the prior gen, making it more inline than ever with the aging iMac Pro! We compare a $5,000 build of each machine to see which is a better buy!
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Cue the pros returning their 2020 iMacs when they realise how loud they are all the time, how unreliable they are on long renders without Xeon chips and the bottle necked single TB3 controller. Pro stuff isn't about specs and tests it's about real world heavy use and for that the 2017 iMac Pro is still better because no amount of mild increase in speed is worth the sacrifices you have to make for it. For hobbyists it's a different situation.
Absolutely agree here. People don't understand what a Xeon 8 cores CPU is - how many desktops comes with this CPU? That's a CPU you find in rack servers!! It's have 10 gig ethernet, 4 thunderbolt ports and 4 USB 3.1 port without the need to connect a display. If you consider that Thunderbolt 3 ports can be daisy-chained, that's up to 12 devices (!!!) + SD card and headphones that you can connect to this computer at a time... Why would you ever need more? Plus it comes with a 5K display, which in itself, cost around 2 grands. The GPU is 1500, the CPU is still going for 700... you don't have to troubleshoot HDMI/DisplayPort issues, which might actually save me from suicide. You don't have to buy any dongle, external GPU, or whatever. It you consider the separate cost of workstation with the same CPU + 5K display + PCie extensions to get to the same number of ports + having to deal with a massive tower and tons of heat... that's a no brainer. They discontinued the iMac Pro because it's too good and people who got it won't have to switch for the next 5-6 years at least.
I edit 4K video on the iMac 3.6 10-core with the Radeon 5700XT very smoothly. After Effects post effects as well.
It's a slick machine. I'm really glad I specced it out.
i swear your videos have improved in quality drastically in the past few months.
Thanks!
How the hell did 10,388 people watch this and only 317 people like it? Thanks dude.. appreciate the time and effort to make a review.
Extremely helpful, thank you. Would have maybe loved some practical translations as to what a higher graphics card enables me to do for example editing up to 8K video etc.
The iMac Pro was introduced at a time between the two generations of the Mac Pro. Apple simply needed to offer a “Pro” desktop which eventually became available last year. Now in the twilight of the Intel era on the Mac, the iMac Pro as a product line is simply redundant.
I heard "apple cider" :) Great video, thanks!
I've been experimenting with Hackintosh and KVM, but the level of complexity and compatibility (sleep & TB3) have me 2nd guessing this path. And now these monster 27" iMac's with 5700XT have me thinking that a new iMac is the best option. I just miss upgradability so bad...and choice of monitors. I hate that Apple only offers this at insane prices (Mac Pro)
Actually the iMac Pro has two TB3 controllers so it has more lanes on TB3. It’s not just ports.
Antonio Zamudio thanks! Yes. I’m guessing autocorrect got me. Fixed now.
@@JBManos-gg2zm The Mac mini has it too. Why don't they do that to the iMac considering the Pro hasn't got an update since early 2019 which were an option for more RAM and higher end graphics. The CPU hasn't got an update at all.
Quarantine made me do it 👍😀
Hello guys, I currently have a pretty standard 5k iMac 27'' 2015. I need an upgrade badly for my graphic design work. Should I wait until next year for the next gen iMac Pro? Or pay £2700 for a brand new current gen iMac Pro. thanks! My Mac is driving me insane just so slow when I need to work
I prefer my Mac Pro 5.1 with Vega7 Pixlas Edition and full NVME support via IO Crest dual PCIe Bridge card 😁
Great video! What is the screen behind you (the biggest one)? I'm looking for an external display to connect my MacBook Pro, similar in size... Thanks!
Doesn’t the new iMac have a 10-bit display?
I had the iMac Pro 10-core and it sucked. I got lots of lag and skip with rendering.
Apple need to use Zen+ or Zen2 processors
Belated feedback if this hasn't been commented previously. A "ton of external..." (3:28) devices daisy-chained to a single Thunderbolt 3 port is jussst a slight generalization.
First, as most are aware, iMac TB ports are limited to one controller for both TB ports. Depending on the external configurations, devices, etc. TB3 device linear progression ("daisy-chain") could and does result in throttling by placing heavy demands on the ONE iMac TB controller. Some have commented on bandwidth latency using less than the 6 maximum recommended daisy-chained external TB devices with large redundancy configurations and requirements (one professional videographer commented that using only two, multi-bay enclosures containing large 4K files, he experienced some sporadic but consistent latency).
Conversely, we can go over to the base Mac Pro (2019) and, with a far-greater price than the 27-inch iMacs, also only have one controller for the USB ports (referring to the back-plane of the Mac Pro only).
Just a word of caution for those of us still considering the Intel-base Apple line-up (listen up Cook) for their compatibility with not-so-legacy applications. If looking at these "little" iMacs consider your external device needs, configurations, etc. and possibly consuming large bandwidth for these single controller TB ports.
The new 27inch imac fan..is still louder then the imac pro..... i own an imac pro and a mac pro. But im waiting now for the new imac pro that will come in 2022 !! Mets hope !
My 27” 1 TB iMac won’t upgrade anymore 😭. It is one of the first 27” models, and I suppose it IS amazing to have a computer last over 10 years.
But still..... I completely filled it and now live off my iPhone and iPad.
Upgrading those every few years is expensive enough.
Do I really need a home computer anymore?
Boot linux on it, if it is really that old.
@Gerrit Harteveld nah if MacOS can't run smoothly.
The heavy thicc windows will suck on it.
I am a computing & game development student, with only a 13" 2012 MacBook Pro 😭 I reeeeally want the 27" 2020 iMac, but I'm too broke!!
I feel ya Lea! I just switched to web/mobile development and I'm still on a 2012. It's a dependable machine but definitely outdated. You can get a 2018 Mac Mini maxed out at 64gb of RAM with a quad-core i5 Coffee Lake for about 1200 bucks, which is not bad, but nowhere near those. Having said that : if you ever have the budget, get the iMac Pro. It's much better for development : you have a Xeon 8 cores chip you can almost only find in rack-mounted servers, and more ports than you'll ever need : considering you can daisy-chain thunderbolt 3, that's up to 12 potential devices connected at a single time + SD card, 10 gig ethernet and headphones :O
The Xeon-W 8 cores chip runs quiet, cool, stable. It's a real pro chip, one you won't find in a lot of desktops even.
@@jas_bataille I actually ended up getting the M1 MacBook Pro! I love it SO much, it's a massive upgrade! There's a few small bugs but they're worth it. 😍😍😍
The new 27 Inch I-Mac will have more processing and graphics power, it has the same SDXC card slot, and can be upgraded to 10Gig Ethernet, and you can upgrade the Ram yourself, (which you can't do on the I-Mac Pro). It has True Tone, the T2 Chip and all SSD up to 8 GB (the I-Mac Pro only goes to 4TB). Also the new I-Mac has the awesome Nano-texture Glass, and an Radeon Pro 5700XT with 16GB of GDDR6 graphics memory. Apple ought to call this one the I-Mac Pro and the smaller one the I-Mac.
'awesome' nano texture glass that reduces the picture quality to a flat blur which will could cause eye strain overtime; only people in very bright places with lots of glare should pay $500 more for what in normal light and darkness is a considerably worse picture
I’m buying the £10.5k iMac Pro later this year and I hope it will be better than this 2020 iMac. 😅
Is that an iMac Pro 18 core 16gb video?
Can you do a review on 21.5 inch iMac. 😇
Hasn't been updated for 2 years
@@sriramsundar8388 oops
Great review. I really appreciate this. I still have my mid-2011 27" iMac running on High Sierra. I just recently used a OWC upgrade kit to put a 1TB SSD and 2 TB HD inside and maxed it with 32 GB of RAM and this thing is running better than it's ever run. I'm just stuck on High Sierra. I just may do this thing you've pointed out. I use Davinci Resolve and Adobe CC and believe could still be highly effective with the new 2020 iMAC 27". Thanks again for your review.
THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME 💰 MONEY I WAS GOING TO BUY THE I MAC PRO
Didn't apple update the iMac Pro to a 10core I would like to see a comparison with the newer iMac Pro not a 3 year old computer. by the way the thunderbolt ports on the iMac Pro have two buss so each pair of ports are one there own buss that could be important if you have two really fast hard drives. I do think the new iMac is a great deal but I think that you didn't review the iMac Pro I'd like to see it against the new iMac Pro
Hey Thomas!
Apple didn't really "update" the new iMac Pro as much as remove the 8-core version and dropping the price on the 10-core. So nothing really changed on the iMac Pro other than the price tag. We took that into consideration here, since we are comparing the 10-core iMac to the 10-core iMac Pro with both at $5K.
And yes, the Thunderbolt 3 limitations are due to the separate busses -- you need two for four ports. It will perhaps make a small difference, but at that point you may be looking at the higher-end iMac Pro models anyway if you need additional graphics or RAM.
@@AppleInsider so when you get the 10core imac 5k and your comparing the 10 core iMac Pro you should also compare the 12 core Mac Pro with the w5700x too ;) I haven't seen a lot of tests of that config. I happen to have bought that Mac Pro config (i'm thinking if adding another w5700xgpu so I have two)
too mad iMac doesn't come in Space Gray
Next month new iMac Pro’s haaaa that’ll be funny
No chance!
Rodney Dangerfield Never say never :)
Thank you, Andrew, for the great review!...Was planning to purchase an iMac Pro; however, by Apple NOT upgrading like the iMac, decided to purchase a Mac Pro instead!...Goodbye, iMac Pro!
im trading my mid 2017 for the 8 core with the highest graphic and upgraded ethernet. So ill be good
Yeah, this video is clueless, 5 grands for a rack server processor, a 5K display and enough connection for 12 devices at a time with daisy-chaining + SD card and headphones, runs quiet and stable, that's a actually a sweet deal. Apple stores have like 12 different models of refurbished iMac Pros everywhere lmao
People don't understand what a Xeon 8 cores CPU is - how many desktops comes with this CPU? That's a CPU you find in rack servers!! It's have 10 gig ethernet, 4 thunderbolt ports and 4 USB 3.1 port without the need to connect a display. If you consider that Thunderbolt 3 ports can be daisy-chained, that's up to 12 devices (!!!) + SD card and headphones that you can connect to this computer at a time... Why would you ever need more? Plus it comes with a 5K display, which in itself, cost around 2 grands. The GPU is 1500, the CPU is still going for 700... you don't have to troubleshoot HDMI/DisplayPort issues, which might actually save me from suicide. You don't have to buy any dongle, external GPU, or whatever. It you consider the separate cost of workstation with the same CPU + 5K display + PCie extensions to get to the same number of ports + having to deal with a massive tower and tons of heat... that's a no brainer. They discontinued the iMac Pro because it's too good and people who got it won't have to switch for the next 5-6 years at least.
To be honest, a base iMac Pro is a bad comparison. If it was maxed out and the price reduced close to that 5K then it would be a better deal for professionals. Having said that, I wish the iMac Pro can be upgraded to 256 GB instead of paying for 5K for memory from Apple to get that memory. That is robbery.
Apple is getting rid of the iMac Pro line because now they have the Mac Pro.
unlikely, it just needs an arm version. as little units as it has sold, it’s a gem in the lineup.
I was wondering why Apple is so hated... now I know why....
iMac Pro can do 18 cores and 512 GB of RAM and would eat the i9 for lunch especially at video rendering.
I turn true tone off as well as night shift. It will screw you up if you are a photographer
Right!? Very true! That's why I said creative pros don't use it, but normal users will. Hell, I use it all the time when I'm *not* editing photos or video. Reading and writing it is much easier on the eyes.
How about the nano texture screen?
@@arvinsim only worth it if you need to greatly reduce glare / reflections in very bright conditions; otherwise, welcome to blur and flatness that reduces picture and text quality
iMac pro is only worth of you need 18 Core version. Even 14 core isn't worth
*AppleOutsider*
Its not the iMac Pro killer. I sent back my Mac Pro last week for an iMac Pro after this announcement. While their are benefits to the new iMac, real professional workflows would fry it. The iMac is good for most people, but cant handle real workloads.
@Antonio Zamudio the 18 core iMac Pro was almost the same benchmarks as my 16 Mac Pro. Just allows you to have a bigger video card. Given the change from Intel, I would probably buy a refurbished 18 core iMac Pro on Apples website if you can do the 128 gb ram and 16 go x video card. You’ll save tons of cash and get a 5k screen with it.
Would $7K toward a powerful and speedy iMac Pro separate it from the normal iMac? (Primarily for professional editing/motion graphics type production; at-home setting)
13th
First.
Яблоко того не стоит.
Нету последовательности у компании, забивают на свои продукты и медленно все обновляют.
Я перешёл обратно на PC=)