Why Dooku Thought Dark Side Yoda Was MORE Powerful Than Darth Sidious

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  • @Tyrosine0910
    @Tyrosine0910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    If you think about it, Yoda was a legitimate rival of Sidious without even touching the dark side. That, to me, suggests he's definitely more powerful naturally.

    • @PG-wz9xs
      @PG-wz9xs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He did overpower him in their fight so ya

    • @mcshifter4138
      @mcshifter4138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The way that the force works in individuals is that they will be naturally more powerful in one side or the other, or an Anakin's case they would be more powerful in a neutral state of force

    • @hatsunited1088
      @hatsunited1088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'd say they where about equal in raw power. Sidious matching yodas 800 years of experiance as jedi with his mastery of the dark side. Now imagin if yoda turned to the dark side with his 800 years of experiance as a force user. Sidious would be fucked.

    • @Demowan
      @Demowan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dark side isn't more powerful than the light side, otherwise nobody could have beaten Sidious... But Windu did, Yoda overpowered him at some point, Rey killed him... The dark side is simply quicker, so it provides impressive results very fast. Learning to achieve power without taping into your emotion as a jedi, is a hard trick to pull off.

    • @Tyrosine0910
      @Tyrosine0910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Demowan The dark side is more powerful combatively because it's driven by an individual's aggression & desire to dominate, & it specializes in destruction. Light-side abilities do not compare in terms of their ability to dominate or destroy. Even though the light side confers some beneficial abilities related to combat, its strengths lie elsewhere.
      Yoda overpowered Sidious by way of his lightsaber dueling abilities. That's a matter of skill, due to the fact that he's had the opportunity to perfect his abilities over the course of over 700 years. Sidious was still dominant during that fight in terms of force abilities.
      The Windu vs Sidious debate is one of the most controversial in all of Star Wars. There are arguments to be made that Sidious allowed Windu to defeat him in order to manipulate Anakin. However, even if you subscribe to the argument that Windu legitimately beat him, that was through the use of Vaapad, a power which actually involves a user tapping into the dark side to augment their performance. As such, Mace did not exclusively use the light side in order to defeat Palpatine. It's true that they're siphoning the dark-side power of opponents to achieve this, but per the book Shatterpoint, successful implementation of Vaapad still involves a user tapping into their own "dark" emotions, such as Mace's love of a fight. Only three Jedi ever implemented the ability into their arsenal, & two of them ended up turning to the dark side. After that, Mace refused to teach it to anybody else.
      Rey..ugh. That's all I have to say about that. The sequel trilogies were following an obvious agenda with their storyline, & even beyond that, it's said that she didn't do it alone: the force-ghosts present at the encounter assisted her in some way. Look at how things went for her before the force-ghosts showed up: Palpatine easily ragdolled both her AND Kylo Ren at the same time, as if they were both children.

  • @brettwallace7687
    @brettwallace7687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Dooku after seeing dark side Yoda: "I have made a terrible mistake."

  • @JanPeverell
    @JanPeverell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    "The best of all would be the strongest student, yes? Wisest? Most learned in the ways of the Force? Best of all, Dooku would be! Our greatest student! Our greatest failure."
    ―Yoda about Doku
    I always loved Dark Rendezvous. The relationship between Yoda and Dooku, each trying to turn the other to their side... it's not the best Star Wars book ever written, but has a special place in my heart. Also provided one of my favorite quotes.

    • @Account-lu9ej
      @Account-lu9ej 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That book redeems Yoda a little in my eyes. He was truly sympathetic and his back and forth with Dooku (who was also fantastic) was amazing. Some of the best conversations come from that novel out of all Star Wars media; Dooku telling Yoda that he should allow himself to feel for the deaths of his fallen comrades, Dooku explaining the dark side to Yoda, Yoda letting Dooku know that there’s still light in him etc.
      Brilliant novel overall, with two great characters.

    • @countdooku1281
      @countdooku1281 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it is sooo awesome.

    • @brandonsnyder9950
      @brandonsnyder9950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanna like your comment, but it's at 66, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be the one to screw that up.

  • @Sigismund-von-Luxembourg
    @Sigismund-von-Luxembourg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If Sidious sensed that change in Yoda for a split second he probably felt true fear.

  • @denen404
    @denen404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    i mean think about the amount of time yoda has built his inherrent force powers think of the amount of suppressed anger that yoda had? think of all the rage he suppressed from the loss he felt.

    • @BigEvan96
      @BigEvan96 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I don't think someone of Yodas demeanor would even be able to embrace the dark side for long.

    • @denen404
      @denen404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hmmmm depends on how far his mind was pushed would he have fallen probably not but the argument is how powerful he would be if he did fall not whether or not he would fall.

    • @Aeluron
      @Aeluron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@denen404 I'd argue he'd be dangerous more dangerous then Sith Anakin pre immolation. Mostly due to experience(I mean 800 something years is a lot). Fun possibility to think about >.>

    • @kusaiashionamete220
      @kusaiashionamete220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Aeluron Sith Yoda would be force choking dudes across the galaxy into the Unknown Regions

    • @neilbrocklebank6539
      @neilbrocklebank6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wouldn’t have spent any time building them if they were inherited

  • @treystephens4490
    @treystephens4490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It broke Yoda's heart when Dooku turned to the Dark Side. 😭

  • @jmess003
    @jmess003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Yoda was strong in the force.
    You're welcome

    • @jmess003
      @jmess003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Bill The Bull Gates I didn't say the Jedi were right I just meant he was strong with the force. And FYI the grey Jedi were right.

    • @jmess003
      @jmess003 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bill The Bull Gates there is no darkness without the light. Just as there is no light, without the darkness

    • @jmess003
      @jmess003 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bill The Bull Gates grey Jedi are not regular Jedi. We use the dark and light sides of the force

    • @AJ-js4xi
      @AJ-js4xi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edgy boys

    • @treystephens4490
      @treystephens4490 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really?

  • @hycron1234
    @hycron1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    _"LUKE: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?"_
    _"YODA: You will know. When you are calm, at peace. Passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."_

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Yoda giving in to the Dark Side has a name: Gollum.

  • @justinwallace269
    @justinwallace269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    In terms of power, feel much of the EU's writings carry a misconception of the difference between the dark and light side of the force. The Dark Side was never intended to be more powerful than the Light, it was merely Yang to the Light Side's Yin - opposite sides of the same coin. I don't feel most writers understood this, and they never overcame their hardon for Force Lightning. The Dark Side is generated through emotions that are easily channeled, and at great cost to the user - but ultimately it is a shortcut to power, not actually greater power. Yoda wouldn't become greater any more than Anakin did. In actual fighting or scholarly pursuits respectively, emotions such as anger make you incompetent. Any physical or energy based advantage the Sith would have can be easily negated by a pure hearted Jedi who learned to channel their compassion: a genuine love for others and the selfless desire to protect them. The best visual of this would be Satele Shan's force wave attack, featured in the SWTOR trailer. She drew that power from a desire to save her friend, and the ability made force lightning look like a light show. Paired up with the disciplined mind of a Jedi, the Light sider would actually match or surpass most Sith - but the Jedi would be fewer in number because fewer people can achieve this state of being, Most writers couldn't get over their Sith fetish long enough to write interesting higher mysteries for the Light Side of the Force, so no wonder the misunderstanding has spread into most Star Wars lore.
    "Is the Dark Side stronger?"
    "No...Quicker, easier, more seductive."

    • @justinwallace269
      @justinwallace269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Indeed: The EU did a fantastic job when it came to dark side development and history. I only wish their level of interest wasn't so one-sided. I don't feel they elaborated on Jedi powers as much as they could have. For the most part, they simply left it at the default while they went to town on the Dark Side. And yeah it's weird how Sidious went from being a kindly old man 24/7 to a cackling rage monsters in the blink of an eye.

    • @FannyPackMan100
      @FannyPackMan100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justinwallace269 + Andy Delgado I am at odds with the both of you as far as what people can handle with the Dark side. For most people, it IS unrealistic to be as immersed in it as the most powerful of Sith are, but this can be said of Jedi, too. The most powerful, stable, and collected of either order acheive a kind of unison with their emotions - they either develop a powerful resovoir deep within themselves that they can drawn upon when desired, or evolve a completely different and transformative kind of consciousness that changes fundamentally who they are as beings. They don’t necessarily feel a particular emotion constantly, but know how to channell them more deeply and more effectively than most beings can manage. It didn’t seem to me that Sidious and Vader were constantly lashing out in bind rage; instead there were moments when that anger was harnessed and focused, but mostly they had more dimensions to their minds than anger. It is the same with the Jedi.
      They could simply harness and had a much greater reservoir than most beings, and as a result of this kind of development, had evolve a new state of being and state of mind that few beings, force sensitive or not, ever come to understand or tap into. Any emotion, anger or otherwise, cna make you ineffeficient in anything, untill you learn to channel and harness it. I mean, apparently people in the military are trained with a model consisting of unrelenting physical and mental abuse and stress, yet the ones who pass their training apparently did so because they learned to focus their emotions (whatever they may be) and thoughts on getting through such hardship. Many college graduates enduring extremely hard and complicated courses also seem to exhibit a similar effect.

    • @justinwallace269
      @justinwallace269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FannyPackMan100 Emotion doesn't work like that. It's not an MMO power-up that can be randomly activated to boost your power level, it's a naturally occurring reaction that you can either control or be controlled by. Sith don't hold back their emotions, and instead use this passion to harness and control the force more readily than the Jedi's more difficult and focused mind. This is similar to fighters who use aggression and sheer physical power to bypass the training and discipline needed to perfect combat techniques. Effectively a shortcut that trades short term gains for long term losses. When Luke defied Sidious for the last time, Sidious' frustration and anger with this defiance manifested in torrent of force lightning. Although he can use it on his own, its strength varies on the moment: He can't just click a button in his head "Activating Anger Mode!" and get pissed out of nowhere. That's just silly. Same thing with Satele Shan: She fought well and displayed impressive force powers with her disciplined mind, but only showed her true magnitude when her future husband was threatened with death. It was compassion that drove her power to such levels, naturally occurring compassion in the moment. Although Jedi prefer to not use emotion, they do accept compassion is an acceptable means by which to guide their actions. This is the core difference between the Jedi and Sith.

    • @FannyPackMan100
      @FannyPackMan100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@justinwallace269 Actually emotions can work like this with proper discipline and training. It is and can be more than a natural reaction. It is very much easy to work yourself into any emotion or feeling that you wish. You can think about and focus on thoughts, feelings, situations, and memories that evoke such a reaction to you, and then use it. It is not limited to the exxact situation at hand. Everyone has memories - good and bad. That was the point. You simply remeber those times, then harness the emotion and energy that this evokes. It doesn’t reduce emotion to some MMO power, but merely evokes the power of disciplined and focused recall to bring back the feelings of that moment for the benefit of using them in the current circumstances. Surely something has happened to you in the past that was so terrible, that thinking about it to this day evokes incredible anger and sadness? This is what I am talking about, and such a thing applies to happy, positive memories too. The case with Satele Shan demonstrates that new and different situations and awaken reactions and thus emotions that one was previously unaware of. Even if your are aware of them, such as the case secretly with Vader, new situations can result that can indeed cause unexpected and powerful reactons to subconcious and/or repressed feelings.
      Also, the Dark Side isn’t always a shortcut. It also doesn’t necessarily grant you more power more quickly at the cost of some long-term loss, though it can due to the intensity of one’s emotions and state of mind. If it were the case, then every dark acolyte and Sith would in theory be just as strong as one another, or very close in strength. But this of course isn’t the case. The Dark Side allows one to learn SOME things more quickly than others, and allow for the development and cultivation of some skills and abilities faster, but at the cost of the development of abilities and skills that more quickly come to the light. A common example of this are visions. Sith routinely struggle to experience Force Visions, because of their trainng and how they embrace the Force and the Dark Side - they focus inwards, on themselves. Whereas the Jedis’ focus is external, on the universe as a whole. Other than some peculiarities such as this, mastery of the dark side is just as much a journey of hard work and slow progress as is the case with the Light Side. The Light and Dark Sides of the Force are different, but not terribly different. Shortcuts are never a path to the finish line - only to a finite point along such a line. You’ll eventually have to finish the race yourself.

    • @justinwallace269
      @justinwallace269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FannyPackMan100 Nope, that’s just silly. That’s like saying “I can use certain meditation techniques to watch a movie 500 times and still have the same emotional reaction I did on the first viewing.” The brain simply doesn’t work that way, and intentionally thinking about the same thoughts that got you angry before, won’t get you angry this time because it’s forced. Same goes for happy emotions, you can remember all you want, but you won’t get the same reaction - especially in the heat of battle where you’re distracted. Are you going to think about other things during a light saber duel, or when the situation is out of control?? That concept is ridiculous. As for the part about Satele, that’s exactly what I said.
      The Dark Side is exactly that, and has been that way since day one. High risk, high reward, and faster, more seductive results. Which each new level you reach, comes greater danger. That’s the hallmark of the Dark Side. The Light is characterized by a longer learning curve but greater results in the end, even if that means the user dies in their corporeal existence and transcends to the cosmic force. They become a part of the very workings of life and causality, having the power to influence and change the fate of the universe from beyond death.

  • @BsauceyMichael
    @BsauceyMichael 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Because Yoda can match Sidious as light side and dark side is easier and more powerful

  • @MrHellsing76
    @MrHellsing76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dark Rendevous was a tragic book, if it wasn't for Anakin and Obi-won's interference, Yoda could have brought Dooku back to the light, he was literally scaring him straight and almost convinced him to rejoin Yoda's side.

  • @SntMighty
    @SntMighty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    if you view the Light and Dark side as like an RPG style buff system , you could say the Light side is a "reduced damage dealt" effect meanwhile the darkside is an "increased damage dealt" type of deal , so if Yoda while being surpressed by the Lightside already was close to Sidious then with increased power he would be insanely strong

  • @therogueadmiral
    @therogueadmiral 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember this book... and this scene, very well. It was an epic scene, I remember requesting someone who makes these types of videos to cover it, glad you did.

  • @JediAcolyte94
    @JediAcolyte94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dooku's relationship with Yoda and all his character development in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous is proof enough how good the novel was and how disappointing it is that we never got a Dooku-centric novel written by either Luceno, Stover, or Jude Watson. With Yoda's skill, long-lifespan, and potential he likely could have become the greatest Sith in galactic history more so than Sidious, Plaguies, Bane, or Krayt.

  • @thesenate9779
    @thesenate9779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Master yoda aka my little green friend

    • @EM-lz4rb
      @EM-lz4rb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not yet.

    • @thesenate9779
      @thesenate9779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EM-lz4rb Now you will experience the full power of the Dark side...

    • @EM-lz4rb
      @EM-lz4rb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thesenate9779 and then I will die.

    • @willpeur8360
      @willpeur8360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Step up bro you cant defeat me by yourself you need your little pet aniken

  • @RChase-su4wz
    @RChase-su4wz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Right for once, Count Dooku was.

    • @darthridic123
      @darthridic123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      R. Chase Dooku was 90% right when it comes to his core instincts. Just poor execution of his plans that failed him. Qui Gon wouldn’t have been as Grey/chill as he was if not for his Master Dooku. Dooku was right about the “Chosen One” that he’s no true Jedi, which Ani never was. He knew if Yoda turned or if he had an ounce of greed he’d be the true ruler of the Galaxy, either as the Champion of the Light or the Dark but either way Yoda would rule. Who’d be a better candidate to rule than the wisest Jedi Grand Master or the most powerful Sith Lord ever?

  • @Funkography
    @Funkography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think if Grievous became force sensitive he would ravage people. Sidious said himself the only Jedi that could defeat him even without being force sensitive was Yoda & Windu. ( Even though Obi-Wan stomped him)

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If not for me or you, FOR ANCIENT JEDI!

  • @ryansanico6539
    @ryansanico6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wanted to know what was Master yoda thinking in his mind when he was fighting Darth SidouisPalpatine.

  • @DaG.O.A.T.
    @DaG.O.A.T. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yoda with 900 years of experience would be more powerful with the Darkside of the force then Sidious but just a little but it be a great show between Darkside Yoda and Sidious tbh

    • @Tyrosine0910
      @Tyrosine0910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just a little? He stalemate Sidious without even touching the dark side. As said in the book, Sidious himself would be annihilated.

  • @EM-lz4rb
    @EM-lz4rb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video like always.

  • @Regis1603
    @Regis1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also believe that. Yoda is Sidious's equal without the Dark Side. So if he ever turned evil, he would be so powerful and dangerous, that only full power Skywalkers could've stopped him

  • @nickclark18
    @nickclark18 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    there was a REALLY well done video someone created that showed yoda using the dark side against sidious and he fried his ass in 30 seconds, not much of a fight, sidious got so overwhelmed, he said to yoda as he was dying, "i knew you were evil.... but i had no idea..." as his body liquified from the fire and lightning yoda shot at him, it was like yoda shot all of the power of the sun directly at sidious, it broke right through his shield like it was made of butter and literally melted his ass, i wish i could find it again...

  • @Drew2You
    @Drew2You 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did Dooku never have the yellow Sith eyes? I know simple explanation would be: "He never gave himself over fully to the dark side." But why?

    • @zerostrike3889
      @zerostrike3889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 possibilities, 1 he was merely learning both aspects of the force to get a better view of the force overall, but saw greatness in both aspects, or 2 sidious taught him how to hide the sigh eyes, since clearly sidious could do that given that until his fight with windu sidious didn’t reveal his sixth eyes

    • @Drew2You
      @Drew2You 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zerostrike3889 First of all THANK YOU for a real (non trolling) reply. So rare these days. I thought about those same possibilities myself. Not sure about the "sith mask" theory. Possible but I think it was more because he was mearly "dabbling" with the dark side. What is interesting to me is that if he truly thought the DS was *so much more* powerful why didn't he just go all in? Perhaps he was afraid. The way the character is written it seems like he's in that gray area leaning dark...

    • @zerostrike3889
      @zerostrike3889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drew indeed, i believe it’s because he was calm by nature, didn’t want to succumb to the power of the dark side since power corrupts, and didn’t want to stay with the Jedi because being passive at times makes people arrogant and therefore far too content with how things are making it harder for them to change, I believe he wanted to kinda balance the two, since he saw flaws in both sides, and their are various flaws in both sides

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He had lifetimes of teaching and learning, plus enormous access to the holocron collection the Jedi jealously hoard and field experience. The power was there, but Yoda spent a lot of energy holding back, choosing to prioritize duty over satisfaction.

  • @cyrusb1768
    @cyrusb1768 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    900 Years of experience, most shrouded with mystery, tells me Yoda definitely dabbled in the dark side at some point or another. The only reason he tapped into it at that point was out of fear because of the love and heartbreak he felt for Dooku.

  • @TwoFace123-f2n
    @TwoFace123-f2n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I know that type of book your talking about and I will soon get that book. Dark Side Yoda would be interesting, imagine if Dooku decided to serve Dark Side Yoda again, the two would become more powerful than Sidious as a team.
    Yoda has always been the most powerful in Galactic History. Wouldn't it be interesting if Dark Side Yoda went toe to toe with rather Mortis or full potential Anakin?

    • @thenbagreatteller1855
      @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SWLoreNerd55 this has nothing to do with what you are talking about but Stupendous Wave's lightsaber giveaway is fake! I spread this information to SO many people in his latest video today and his amount of subscribers dipped. My 2 comments caught his attention so he hid it. Spread the word if you want to. Read my other comments here so you could possibly get a full picture.

    • @thenbagreatteller1855
      @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SWLoreNerd55 it's in Stupendous Wave's which is called "The most DANGEROUS type of Jedi"

    • @fly672
      @fly672 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thenbagreatteller1855 Seriously who belived in that giveway ? How many Lightsabers would he need if it was real ? And his videos are pretty bad. He makes many videos about the same subject and changes title. He also repeats himself sometimes 3 times to make the video longer.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FULL potential Anakin. Might've been easily a match for Yoda of either side of the Force. Since at this said point he'd have been TWICE as powerful as Yoda. Even Sideous knew if he EVER got to his full potential Anakin wouldve been the most powerful Force user ever known or seen of either side which was why he wanted him so much for the Sith m before his crushing defeat at Mustufar

    • @countdooku1281
      @countdooku1281 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GM Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader are both more powerful than Yoda and Full Potential Anakin would stomp everything and everybody . But yeah Yoda is pretty powerful.

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    SWRC, will you do a video about Palpatine visiting Morriband?

  • @seebreeze0185
    @seebreeze0185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is that you Nicolas Cage? (5:31)

  • @jindrichsander9555
    @jindrichsander9555 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark side yoda vs full power anakin, who do you think will win?

  • @chriscarrete5303
    @chriscarrete5303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe it. Sidious was scared of him in revenge of the Sith.

  • @BennyEternET
    @BennyEternET 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a misconception since one important aspect of Yoda's power was his fully taping in the light side (force valor, cleansing of darkness, visions).

  • @kennyneally3662
    @kennyneally3662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he knew about the rule of 2 thats a dead give away right there

  • @crisoliveira2644
    @crisoliveira2644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:32 Why is Young Dooku Nicolas Cage?

  • @masterrserch3971
    @masterrserch3971 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    its stories like this (and of course great exposé's like this from the Non Canon Expert, N.C.E.), that makes me WANT the Yoda star wars story movie... so much exploration into his character and his damn near millennium of life. Of course, keeping it a mystery and left unsaid is also awesome and something I'd be fine with...

  • @jmess003
    @jmess003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It's bean around an hour and he still hasn't hearted and comments.... Where you at SWRC?
    😂

  • @unigaming9921
    @unigaming9921 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the promise of the dark side is illusory. It doesn't give you more power then you had the potential for, it just excels your faster toward that potential. So with the Dark side, you get stronger faster, but it doesn't mean you've gained more potential.
    So let's say your potential is 100%.
    Today, you are at 10%.
    In scenerio 1: You go dark and in 5 years, you've reached 50% potential.
    In scenerio 2: You stay light and in 5 years, you've reached 20% potential.
    Ultimately, your potential is still 100%. So what is the lights advantage? Mastery. At 100% potential, the darksider is powerful but not necessarily a true master of his power. The equivalent Light sider at 100% has mastery over themselves and their power, and therefore will be nearly unbreakable to the equivalent Darksider. Because this is potential POWER, not potential mastery.
    The Darksider who finds mastery over the power will be remarkably powerful, but not moreso than their light equivalent could have been (again, it just looks that way because they got the power quicker), such as Dooku or Sidious. Indeed, many Sith lords in the Rule of 2 had to wait years and years, despite growing so quickly in power, because their masters had mastery in addition to power.
    So no, Yoda wouldn't have gotten stronger, because he already had mastery and a high usage of his potential.

  • @soniascott4699
    @soniascott4699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R.I.P Sir Christopher Lee

  • @No_OneV
    @No_OneV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brighter the light, the darker the shadow gloom

  • @djsharky3822
    @djsharky3822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00 Dooku- I have made a terrible mistake.

  • @DarkLordofInsanity
    @DarkLordofInsanity 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna start this now. Can’t we talk about how great ‘Shadows of the Empire’ is? Original novel, comics, game, and an ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only Jedi that had more potential power then Yoda where the Skywalker Family Yoda dominates everyone else in force abilities

  • @bradleyhoyt3188
    @bradleyhoyt3188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Request fan made film.... Dark Side Yoda VS Darth Sidious. Or perhaps... Let's make this interesting, Dark Side Yoda versus light Side palpatine.... ????

  • @Inazarab
    @Inazarab 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what book is this from?

  • @thenbagreatteller1855
    @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Stupendous Wave's lightsaber giveaway is fake! It's been a rumor for a while but Stephen Amadio has confirmed it. He is actually legit. I have no reason to be lying about this. He also said he has no reason to be making this up. This is not right. Stephen wanted to let it go but he felt bad for the people commenting which lightsaber's they want in SW's comment section.

    • @MrClint1957
      @MrClint1957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still trolling? You are acting like a sad and lost person...

    • @thenbagreatteller1855
      @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Clint Myers I'm actually telling the truth. I'm not one of those people who will make a lie about someone so people turn against them. I know this news is overwhelming but it can't be secret information. DEAL WITH IT!

    • @utoresa5193
      @utoresa5193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice man.Happy I never begged for toys like an idiot.

    • @thenbagreatteller1855
      @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uto Resa 519 😉

    • @thenbagreatteller1855
      @thenbagreatteller1855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clint Myers I have no reason to troll

  • @KiraSakuya1
    @KiraSakuya1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm interested in this book where Yoda ask Dooku to teach him the dark side, can you give me it's title, and if it's a novel or a comic.

  • @Facade953
    @Facade953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know things are bad when Dracula himself acts like a scared schoolgirl!😮

  • @gamehame5080
    @gamehame5080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Even Light side Yoda was more powerful than Sidious

    • @PG-wz9xs
      @PG-wz9xs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly but people don't understand how he overpowered sidious in their fight

    • @unfadinggaming4322
      @unfadinggaming4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Game Hame Ikr that’s exactly why Yoda lost to Sidious in ROTS and there are many quotes about how he was bested by Sidious in that very fight... seriously stop joking around

  • @joegillespie4180
    @joegillespie4180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Yoda turned evil at this point and went on to go after Sidious?
    That Yoda would be the supreme Force God of the Galaxy

  • @pubcle
    @pubcle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe if Yoda had studied all aspects of the Force as Sidious for all his hundreds of years of life then I'd agree. I think Yoda would have had the potential to become as powerful, perhaps more, than Sidious himself did at the peak, if he invested himself within all of the Force as long and deeply as Sidious himself. However, it would not be immediate, and Sidious was not nearly at his peak at the end of RotS, whereas Yoda was at the peak of his ability by this time.

    • @Ryukikon
      @Ryukikon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was so bad that the author thought it made sense

  • @zaredsabretooth7980
    @zaredsabretooth7980 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own this novel, it's a fantastic read

  • @nickpezzolo297
    @nickpezzolo297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great book dark rendavou awesome

  • @willdaniels9420
    @willdaniels9420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dark side is just quicker to learn and more versatile in its offensive capabilities. If Yoda were to go to the dark side I don't believe he would necessarily be any more powerful in his power with the force more offensively capable of wielding it. And being how powerful his defensive use of the force is if he were to use say force lightning it would easily be greater or at least on par with sidious who was seen as the most powerful user of force lightning in galactic history. But ironically what sith such as sidious and Vader sought most is only attainable through the light. Immortality.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He probably would be.. hes about the oldest Force User known next to the Ancients that embodied the Force itself. Definitely the oldest of his kind of user.

  • @iamimpossiblekim
    @iamimpossiblekim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t believe the dark side Gollum we see in the clone wars is just a mental manifestation but is itself his icon of sith he would take the same as palpatine got horse nuts for a face and anakins icon was Vader, real things they become and take on. Imagine a 1,000 year old sith that used to be the strongest Jedi ever. Much like when palpatine in the sequels gets the dark side essence smoke after absorbing the force dyad yoga would just radiate smoke and the glowing eyes are his sith eyes just overflowing with power. That’s what I imagine.

  • @miquelcanosasanteularia1678
    @miquelcanosasanteularia1678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because it is clear to everyone

  • @dank3251
    @dank3251 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    can you please maybe try a different phrase at the end of
    the video. its driving me insane lol thanks

    • @ronaldscott2181
      @ronaldscott2181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dank I didn't like it at first when I subscribed back in the day, but it's definitely grown on me and I learned to tolerate it a little over and year ago. Now, I actually quite enjoy it tbh 💁🏽😂

    • @hycron1234
      @hycron1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      _If not for meeeeeeeeeee!_
      *_for driving Dank insane_*
      Personally, I like the ending. :)

  • @countdooku1281
    @countdooku1281 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a Dark Side Yoda who studied the Dark Side for a long time would even be able to defeat DE Darth Sidous "prime Sidious", but he would definetely lose to GM Luke Skywalker. Yoda is a very poweful jedi and as a Sith he would be more poweful.

  • @gamersinacontainer
    @gamersinacontainer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because Dark Side Yoda is terrifying

  • @trillkage70
    @trillkage70 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So wait, did dooku teach yoda the dark side? I’m confused

  • @rednecksniper4715
    @rednecksniper4715 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly 170,000 subs

  • @Parents_of_Twins
    @Parents_of_Twins 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that is another example to show that Sidious was not the most powerful Sith ever. Perhaps the most powerful since the Bane but I don't think he could have dealt with Vitiate at all. I'm not sure he could have kept up with any of the ancient Sith like Tulak Hord, Marka Ragnos, etc but definitely not with Vitiate. I believe a fight between Vitiate and Sidious would go kind of like a fight between Sidious and Dooku. Might be able to hold his own for a little while but not really because the former would just be toying with the later.

  • @rayruiz5871
    @rayruiz5871 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well in Revenge of the Sith Yoda fought city is almost to a even fight. A dark side Yoda would have definitely been extremely powerful probably more than Sidious

  • @erwinheisenberg8584
    @erwinheisenberg8584 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sidious > all, because only Vador defeated him behind his back..

    • @Reridged
      @Reridged 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sidious wasn't that strong compared to most

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well Yoda was as formidable as Sideous while serving the Light which is uausally weaker than the Dark, so if he let in to 900 years of repressed emotions he’d be very powerful.

    • @ZiGGi03
      @ZiGGi03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's not weaker, its just faster way to get power .

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ZiGGi03 its the other way around for Rey

    • @ZiGGi03
      @ZiGGi03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm just saying what pYoda mentions in the cloanwars or its the animation .either way shes the exception not the rule .if that is true.

    • @joegillespie4180
      @joegillespie4180 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Nitpicking Nerd that's pretty funny!!

  • @DarthMeteos
    @DarthMeteos 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if yoda had just given into the dark side in the senate chamber, sidious would be dead, and he could kill himself in penance
    he was ancient already, just do it, save the galaxy

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left a like for *Maybe he was onto something*

  • @TheFlash-yx4gw
    @TheFlash-yx4gw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yodas people never turn to the dark side!

  • @ebperformance8436
    @ebperformance8436 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Yoda gave into the dark side.....sidious would we fucked.....obi wan would be fucked.
    The Sith always had a apprentice....Yoda would either convert windu or take anakin for his dark apprentice” most likely it would be anakin” mace converting to the dark side would make windu weaker” . Luke and lai would exist....
    And might possibly be train by obi wan” If he survived the wrath of dark yoda”. Anakin would eventually take dark yoda’s place and convince Luke to convert.
    The Sith would prevail and the last Jedi movie would Cease to exist.....a big win for us and the Star Wars universe.

  • @pendragonshall
    @pendragonshall 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do most people and I mean Star Wars fans actually think the Darkside of the force makes you stronger?
    I mean I know it doesn’t and I know why the Sith think it does. But I’m beginning to think that most people think the Darkside is stronger.

  • @jdzspace33
    @jdzspace33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't that imply that the dark side is more powerful? Though Yoda clearly said it is not more powerful. Quicker, easier sure, but more powerful? He didn't think so in the OT.

    • @aacsmiles
      @aacsmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not more powerful necessarily. How I understood when I read the book, Yoda is already incredibly powerful, but because of his commitment to the light side, he holds himself back. The Jedi value peace and life and unleashing his full power would jeopardize the lives of others. If he went Sith, there’d be no need to hold himself back and he could unleash his wrath on anyone he felt like.

    • @jdzspace33
      @jdzspace33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aacsmiles - I suppose, I just wish we could've seen Yoda a LITTLE unleashed in episode 3. You know instead of crawling away on his belly for his life

    • @aacsmiles
      @aacsmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jdzspace33 yes, I would have loved for Yoda to have a “world made of cardboard” moment while going up against Palpatine. Alas, Yoda had to lose in order for the ot to happen.

    • @jdzspace33
      @jdzspace33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aacsmiles yeah, it's funny how until the prequels I never thought Yoda confronted Shiv, because I knew there is no way the emperor would ever come to be, and I just assumed he hid from Yoda.
      I like the prequels, but I wish Yoda didn't look so weak in that last fight

  • @colleenschmidt5063
    @colleenschmidt5063 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoda rules. Lord Yoda rules.

  • @Fred63205
    @Fred63205 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Yoda was a dumbass when he told Luke that the Darkside is not stronger?

  • @chrissnyder8415
    @chrissnyder8415 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a great idea. Let's all go camping! Who's in?

  • @timeparticles
    @timeparticles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoda: "Think you, I have never felt the touch of the dark? Know you what a soul so great as Yoda can make, in eight hundred years?"
    Dooku: "Master?"
    Yoda: "Many mistakes!"
    ―Yoda and Dooku
    Yoda knew and understood the dark side well, and chose not to use it.

  • @firstname8046
    @firstname8046 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark side yoda >sidious darkside mace=sidious dark side obi wan= vader dark side

  • @grandmofftarkin6415
    @grandmofftarkin6415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on.. darkside yoda can clash head to head with combined maul, dooku, grivous, vader and sidious and they will get annihialated in no time...

  • @msgtgalarza9946
    @msgtgalarza9946 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're talking about a 900 900 hundred-year-old Jedi who knows more anything about the force I'm just a simple Clone I've seen Jedi before just don't know how quiet to explain it interesting videos

  • @Mannyfreshkidd66
    @Mannyfreshkidd66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoda has less midoclorians but 900 years of life would’ve made him do sidious dirty with the force. The things yoda could do would be Indians but He would end up like nihlus body would deteriorate

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "The things yoda could do would be Indians" lol What?

  • @realerdealers1924
    @realerdealers1924 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @Jose-fl3lf
    @Jose-fl3lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think yoda would actaully be weaker in the darks side lol, the dark side does not automatically makes u more powerfull, yoda is mighty because he is in the light side

  • @sanyometer2746
    @sanyometer2746 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this video exposé.....

  • @calvinjohn1721
    @calvinjohn1721 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give me my rose

  • @borischan5252
    @borischan5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goku is a Sith

  • @alexanderkruger2482
    @alexanderkruger2482 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 500 year old light side Yoda would have anyway destroyed Sidious !!!!!!

  • @redMrCrayon
    @redMrCrayon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its pronounced "Vi-oon"

  • @csgo6191
    @csgo6191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24 seconds 15 views holy shit xDDD

  • @MultiversalMind3
    @MultiversalMind3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    as much as I would wanna see dark side yoda, well, I wouldn't...yikes

  • @ivionsterviper9605
    @ivionsterviper9605 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many times did you repeat yourself over and over in that video

  • @geopanpan
    @geopanpan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s with the silly tone of projecting voice?

  • @Afluffycookie117
    @Afluffycookie117 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still the chosen one

  • @-CrimsoN-
    @-CrimsoN- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's pronounced Vi-june m8 That's how it's heard in Jedi Knight Jedi Academy.

    • @Jim_Lahey101
      @Jim_Lahey101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one cares

    • @-CrimsoN-
      @-CrimsoN- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jim_Lahey101 Apparently they do, because Ive seen several comments indicating the same thing. Go space yourself.

  • @Amadeus8484
    @Amadeus8484 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well he almost beat Sidious without using the stronger Dark Side Powers. So its possible that if he was a Sith he could have.

  • @rockyramberg226
    @rockyramberg226 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So does this mean the dark side is objectively stronger? Because if the strongest light side user would suddenly become way more powerful as a dark side user that means the dark side is the most powerful

  • @christolupo7909
    @christolupo7909 ปีที่แล้ว

    You took a couple of liberties there… don’t make stuff up.

  • @marikmeinen9129
    @marikmeinen9129 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think yoda would die if he tapped into it. He got 900 years old because the light side of the force.

  • @utoresa5193
    @utoresa5193 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peak dark empire Sidious would still beat his ass.And so would grandmaster luke.The Ones would for sure.The Bedlam spirits no discussion.

  • @lordofsheetmusic6972
    @lordofsheetmusic6972 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark Side Yoda may be powerful but he can't beat THE SENATE.

  • @ajl1218
    @ajl1218 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second nvm 3rd :/

    • @shreyaspatil2321
      @shreyaspatil2321 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was 2nd , 4 secs earlier

    • @ajl1218
      @ajl1218 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rayden Darkus maybe you should read my comment again rather then commenting I didn’t see yours till I refreshed

    • @shreyaspatil2321
      @shreyaspatil2321 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajl1218 ok.