Why Sidious Protected Tarkin From Vader and Was So Loyal to the Grand Moff! (Canon)
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The Non-Canon Expert explains why we've seen Darth Sidious come to the defense of Tarkin so many times within the current Canon as seen in the earliest years of the Empire, even appearing to take Tarkin's side over that of his own Apprentice Darth Vader. To answer this question, we look at the long history between Palpatine and Tarkin and why the Sith Lord found Tarkin to be a powerful ally in creating his new Empire.
This is a Canon story for Tarkin, Darth Vader and Darth Sidious with information from numerous Canon comics and novels, including the "Tarkin" novel by James Luceno, the Darth Vader Annual #2 and the 2017 Darth Vader comic. I hope that you enjoy it!
Sidius: _ vader, bring me the rebels and a beer.
Vader: _ yes, master.
tarkin comes in: _ hey pal. Whats up.
Sidius:_ hi tarkin. Vader. Bring me 2 beers.
Genius
Lol
Way to make badass Vader look like a bitch.
@@Lonarix1 he was the emperor's bitch
Vader: but
Sidious: I altered the deal, pray i don't alter it further
Vader: yes my master
"Boys, boys! Stop fighting! Can't you see, you're tearing this family apart!"
- Palpatine, probably.
Key word: probably.
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What the hell is an aluminum falcon?
Vader: I want to kill Tarkin
Palpatine: Don't dew it
Darth Revan teach me ways of the dark side
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Took me a few seconds to get it. 😂
One more aspect: by not allowing Vader to take his anger out on Tarkin, it would grow inside him. And anger is a key aspect for the use of the dark side of the force...
Not quite. All strong emotions give Smith strength, anger is just one of the stronger emotions. But anger also clouds judgement. By keeping Tarkin in a prized position and over Vader, Vader’s anger would keep him mailable and easier for Sidious to control. In truth, Sidious feared Vader. He was not only powerful in the force, but the Sith tradition of killing one;s Master made it only a matter of time before Vader would seek to end his subservience to Sidious. Tarkin was just another tool in keeping Vader emotionally of balance.
2300 Slatt any Sith that thought that only Anger and Hate were the only path to power we’re doomed to fail, a useful deceit that a Master can use to keep his Apprentice on the wrong track. In fact, that is what brought down the original Sith. They eventually thought only Anger lead to strength, because it was so strong, and it ended up almost killing their whole species with infighting, leaving them a pitiful remnant that was eventually wiped out. And that is why there is the Rule of Two. And that is why an Apprentice must kill his Master. And that is why the are eventually defeated. As well as the Jedi’s narrow view of the opposite.
I did say that Anger was one of the stronger emotions. Most ppl would understand that that meant it held much power. After all, it is the most enduring emotion. Love can wilt, joy will fade, Hope can be dashed, but Anger can simmer, burning like a well banked coal. And as Yoda implied, all emotion can lead to Anger. But it is emotion and instinct, in excess, by which the real Sith connected to the Force. And it was by being cold and logical; the Jedi.
But Anger is a wild and overpowering emotion that blinds and corrupts. One does not control pure Anger, but is controlled by it. And it is not Anger that makes an Apprentice into Master, but Greed and Jealousy. Sidious did not use Anger to gain power, well he did, but it was the anger in others he manipulated. When he, or any other successful Sith Lord used Anger, it was a tool, to enhance their power. It was not anger that allowed Vader to destroy Sidious, but love for his son( ok yes Anger, but anger tempered by love).
So Tarkin was a walking powerbank.
Tarkin still holds the official record for the highest k/d ratio in Galactic Empire history...
Demarius Henderson that would be held by people who have not died yet, as their kd ratio would be infinty, dividing by zero. You could simply say Tarkin held the most kills because k/d ratio would be inaccurate.
@@feiyu8817 aaaaand the joke is dead...
@@feiyu8817 in k/d ratio 0=1
Lol PtW.
@@feiyu8817 How do you know it is positive and not negative infinity?
Honestly, I think Palpatine kept Tarkin alive because it was like an Anger Vat for Vader. He could continuously drink from it, continuously be angry, continuously be unstable, continuously be loyal to Palpatine.
I know this is late but it was also takins usefulness, takin survived because he was smart enough to constantly be useful to palpatine (just like thrawne with palps and Vader) in order to survive and palpatine let takin survive because of how useful takin was. He might've failed a few times but it was never consistently and he'd always make up for it somehow. With the sith it's all about use, palps sacrificed dooku for anakin the minute dooku stopped being useful and palpatine had a chance to use anakin
i agree well said buddy .
Vader's anger was unstable to say the least, tarkin was far too important to sidious's planned construction of the death star and keeping the local governors in check to let Vader jeopardise it, tarkin had his pivotal role to play and Vader had his
Very well said here PS. The history between Tarkin and Palpatine in both Canon and Legends is always a fun one to look at; there's no denying that Tarkin was a vital component to the Death Star for Sidious. Thank you for watching!
If he killed tarkin he'd probably give vader another more thorough dip in the lava.
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@Slak Kap i know how that feels, I wish it on no man...
Because he knew Vader would be honored if we would join him.
The way he draws out the last syllables of each sentence drove me insane.
I would recommend speeding up the video when he speaks
Yesssss
I had to stop halfway through, drove me mad
Agreed
1.25x speed made it normal
I made the same comment on another video and had people freaking out on me for being ignorant about his "accent" lol
Sidious wasn't loyal to Tarkin. He just found him useful. The minute he stopped being useful, he'd be expendable. Darth Sidious was truly the expression of the dark side being very ambitious, evil and selfish.
I'm expendable I'm fired from every job I get.
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Agreed, Tarkin would have lasted maybe 15 seconds after Sidious thought he would be better off if Tarkin was dead.
So Loyal were Darth Sidious (the Tarkin-Friend) and Darth Vader (the Tarkin-Frenemy) to Grand Moff Tarkin that they murdered Tarkin's only begotten son...The Emperor Protects!
where did you get this info from
Palpatine knew how important Tarkin was and never humiliated him, even keeping him safe from Vader and giving him some authority over him. Takin was old but commanded respect and fear because he was one of the few people who could give orders to Vader and was even able to give Vader a challenge when Tarkin hunted him after a request from Vader. One of the few non force sensitives able to match a sith/jedi without any augmentations like Grievous.
Meanwhile, Hux is humiliated over and over again, basically becoming Kylo's underling once Snoke dies. What a contrast.
At 0:43 looks like Vader is playing Pac-Man. You can see the reflection in his eyes
oh my god yeah XD
I have you now 😆
And yet, Tarkin & Vader ended up gaining respect for each other.
Vader did a favor for Tarkin during a mission, and in return Vader (knowing Tarkin's past) requested that he hunt him...the result: Vader was left unconscious.
He liked Takin's foul stench when he was brought on board.
Because Palp had a harken for Tarken.
No doubt, he made a parken in his marken, and had him barken in the darken.
So secret this was, that neither would ever go narken.
Under rated comment.
So who spilled the beans then?
Narc not nark, but very well done
@Charles Bales is that how he fathered Rey's parents?
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So, basically, he kept Tarkin around because he was one of the few ACTUALLY competent people around.
Wilhuff Tarkin is a truly extraordinary character.
I wish some day "Tarkin" novel was made into a movie...
It's too bad Peter Cushing can't appear in it (for obvious reasons).
Never gonna happen, it would be too hard to make it PC.
Hope it would bebnot Disney
@@antichound4904 Exactly! But what a great damn flick this one would be!
Now imagine if Tarkin was Force sensitive. Darth Tarkin. It does make him cooler that he did everything without the Force.
Dirge Cry So true!
Dude, now I wanna write a Darth Tarkin Fanfiction
He could've been force sensitive...Carrion Spike was a formidable crucible.
Tarkin is a unique figure in Star Wars. He’s ruthless and brilliant, but has an ego the size of the Death Star.
Are we garrison? Deploy the blind!
Victor Bruant if Yoda took over “The Senate, I am”
We stand here amidst your achievements not mine!!
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Tarkin's way of thinking really was very similar to that of Sidious and Vader. No wonder that he was such a good pawn for the SIth.
“We have to bring order to the galaxy to keep everyone safe.” [creates planet destroying space station - twice]
Palpatine and Tarkin sittin’ in a tree...
Now we know why Palpatine "required him"
Killin everyone but thee...
Nice everyone! Lol!
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No, just no xD
Wasn't it Palpatine's plan to kill Tarkin for the destruction of the Death Star? I can vaguely recall seeing that somewhere... In any case, Palpatine was loyal to no one, and was only interested in preserving and increasing his own power. In fact, he became so powerful, the only thing he feared was losing that power... Which of course, he did. Ironic. He could save others from a fall down a reactor shaft, but not himself.
Tarkin died on the Death Star so he wouldn’t be able to punish him or plan to kill him
Tarkin understood 'victory or death'. If he failed to defend the Death Star he would go down with the station. Being a little bitch and running was unthinkable. He held himself to the same standards he held everybody else.
TJ347 he couldn’t save maul from the good ol huge bottomless pet
@throathammer1 That is not cannon. I'm glad to, these op powers should stay in other franchises were that is normal or fan fiction, it makes normal characters meaningless
Not Tarkin. But in Legends, Palpatine had chief engineer Bevel Lemelisk tortured repeatedly for his role in the design of the Death Star.
Tarkin and Anikin had a mutual respect for each other, Anikin was the only Jedi he respected. When did this change?
Probably when Tarkin pushes for Ahsoka's execution
You mean Anakin.
Star Wars Reading club, can we theorize Vaders reaction if Tarkin poured Sand on Vader?
hehehe
Or called him little orphan Annie...
It would be over for him Palpatine couldn't save him then💀
@@joengi6698 not if he did it infront of Palpatine
"I hate sand"
The last word of each of your sentences, respectively, are...disconcerting.
Sounds gay
What an odd interpretation.
I prefer the version where Vader & Tarkin had respect from each other & Tarkin knew Anakin was Vader. It goes back into the 2007 clone wars cartoon with a conversation between the two, it started off rocky, but eventually they came to understand each others beliefs. Which is why Tarkin is the only person besides the Emperor that Vader will listen to.
Only reason can think to exempt Tarkin from being at Vader's mercy unlike the rest of the universe was that Sideous needed a competent genius military general/admiral for warfare purposes if it became necessary as with the Rebellion or Vong.
Did anyone notice a resemblance between Palpatine and Bram Stoker's Dracula in the hair style ?
It's ironic that the actor who played Tarkin, Peter Cushing also played the vampire hunter Van Helsing in the old 1960s hammer horror movies; and years later Sir Christopher Lee who always played opposite him as Count Dracula, played Count Dooku in the prequels; and both were phenomenal world class actors! 😁
In the comics vader hates tarkin,but in the OT movies it seems like they are chill lol...
A powerfull ally he was
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One good thing about Legends is giving characters like Tarkin some spotlight- underrated in my books
Sad endings? I remember a big awards party with everyone smiling!
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He kept tarkin alive as a distraction just as grevious was a distraction for the Jedi. As soon as Vader killed tarkin he would turn on the emperor and the emperor knew it
Palpatine held Tarkin in such high regard that he was allowed to wear slippers on duty instead of his too small boots. 😁😁😁
That’s because the boots hurt his feet while the actor was taking those shots. Cool when you see how he acted because you’d never know this unless you were told
Palaptines family was very wealthy actually, also naboo had a massive amount of political influence, the queen alone was able to start the process to remove chancellor velorum
Palpatine been trolling everyone
So Piette was basically Vader’s Tarkin more or less.
The answer is the same no matter who served the Emperor: As long as you are still of great use, you will not suffer.
I'm just guessing but probably beecause he was the best strategist they got before Thrawn ?
So if Thrawn were to show his skill a bit earlier then I think Tarkin will be given as a chew toy to Vader.
I now for some reason picture Tarkin and Sidious doing finger guns at each other.
aaarrrghhhhh!!!! That sing song cadence of yours is so damned aggravating!!
Tarkin is the tywin Lannister of Star wars. Or vice versa
I was legit looking for a comment like this i was thinking the same thing
yes he is
This was my favorite Star Wars video explaining canon yet.
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Tarkin knew of Vader's true identity, he brought it up in episode IV when vader mentioned that he felt the presence of Obi-Wan. Stating "you my friend are the only thing left of that religion". It is also clear that he has a general idea of Vader's identity at the end of episode III. When Vader entered the bridge and stood next to the emperor, Tarkin looked down as if he would be embarrassed to ask, then turning away and walking off.
tbh Sidious could have found someone better then tarkin cause Tarkin was so overconfaden and stuck on his self Vader alone was capable of building the empire up and the deathstar
TRipleX nah Vader was mentally unstable. He repeatedly failed sidious during the building of the empire. Vader was blinded by his hate of the Jedi and desire for revenge against Obi Wan. Although, that’s mostly in legends, which I consider Canon because fuck Disney.
I've never seen overconfident spelt like that before. Was that accidentally or...?
@@gershomtan5879 tbh it doesn't matter what you think is cannon or not. The owner of the franchise decides and that's how the world works, because of rules
If Vader knew about tarkin grabbing ashokas face during her trial I'm pretty sure he would have ignored sidious order and kill him anyway for that.
God _damn_ you drag your words on and now I can't unhear it.
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I was hoping somebody mentioned it.
Funny story, imagine him reading some adult content and saying boobies....
😂
Yeah try getting that out of your head now.
Wooliepedia is a bit vague on the subject but the impression I got from the Tarkin families statues was is that they owned the whole Planet of Eriadu or at least the lands settled by humans
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Plot twist The Grand Moff was actually Snoak and controlled Palpatines thoughts to keep him alive
It would've been funny If Tarkin was actually the Imperial after him.
I have a question for you, non-canon expert. Was the destruction of Alderaan approved by Sidious?
In legends I believe it was stated that Sideous was shocked that Tarkin had chosen Alderann to destroy, he'd approved the destruction of a planet, but hadn't expected him to target such a high profile one
@@JamesGames101 Ah, I always wondered about that. That makes sense. Sidious was probably thinking he'd pick an obvious rebel base planet, not one of humanity's core worlds, a world second only to Coruscant in its importance to humanity and the history of the galaxy. I would love to have been there when Tarkin had to explain himself, if Sidious was even upset with him. Tarkin did kind of seem like Sidious' "golden boy". Never seen him get at Tarkin like he would Lord Vader. Even putting Vader beneath Tarkin at some points.
No it was not.
@@MetaSynForYourSoul sidious hated Vader after he lost to Obi Wan.
It was always hinted at that Vader was on the Death Star to execute Tarkin should he try to use it against the Emperor. Feeling safe in his position, Tarkin would never suspect that his executioner should he change loyalties was always close at hand. The Emperor cared about himself and power. That was it. They were useful tools, to be disposed of if no longer of use. See when Luke beats Vader. The Emperor had no problems telling him to kill Vader....no loyalty, he just wanted a younger, powerful new Dark Lord as he said when he first turned Anakin.
Darth Vader was like....
*Well, if I can't kill Tarkin now, then my son will kill him eventually. As well as a few million other Inperials.*
I have a theory that tarkin was part of palpatines inner circle
The members of the Republic that knew he was a sith lord
Like his advisor
And has been loyal to him for a long time
I suspect he was also in league with palpatine to frame ahsoka for the bombing of the jedi temple
I have a feeling palpatine knew barriss the one involved and manipulated her to bomb the jedi temple and then proceed to frame ahsoka knowing she would be dismissed from the jedi order
That would help anakins turn to the dark side and lose faith in the jedi council
Tarkin was never told that palpatine was a sith lord, but eventually deduced it.
Why do you sound like Dr. Zoidberg?
Where are the chancellor's ambassadors?
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So Loyal were Darth Sidious (the Tarkin-Friend) and Darth Vader(the Tarkin-Frenemy) to Grand Moff Tarkin that they murdered Tarkin's only begotten son...
The Emperor Protects!
Where do the drawings like at 0:10 come from? Such a high quality!
If Tarkin had survived Yavin, Vader would've gotten his wish.
Hey, here's an idea for a video.
'Did Sidious use the Tarkin Doctrine as a way to use the Empire to lure rebel factions into the open?'
Loyal...might not be the right word to use for a master’s feeling towards a subordinate. More like reliance.
Vader under his breath: teachers pet.
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What if Vader killed Tarkin how would Palpatine respond?
He'd be annoyed, little more. Palpatine would not kill his apprentice. Not until finding another...
My issue with the character of Tarkin is that when he first appeared in A New Hope he didn't strike me as a competent officer or anything special... Then recently they built his character so much that his current character contrasts too much with his ANH character.
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@Rule Whatever - you're probably using adblock and can't see how many ads there are.
@Rule That it was more than usual on a 12 min vid. We seem to be in agreement - all the best.
I don't think you should have used the word "loyal" when describing Sidious. That emotion almost certainly never flickered in his heart.
Because of his clever wit
Tarkin and Anakin had contact too yes? (If them animated StarW is considered canon). I thought Vader respected Tarkin, and the 2 even fought alongside one another.
You know what would be great? if you put it references for all these comic pages and book references. You know just place a reference note over the image.
do you edit the audio of these videos to give your voice a robotic downward inflection?
Yees! He would be a great asset. Vader you're his subordinate. Can it be done? "And then the death star was blown to smithereens."
11:53 Aww that made me sad boy D:
could you tell us why Luke in legends made/had a red lightsaber ?
thanks
Luke didn't have a red Blade in Legends? Not that im aware of.
*I have ALL the books from Truce @ Bakura to the end.
But more importantly is the 1990's young reader books where is most likely this originates from.
Books like "Glove of Vader" etc..
There we're 4-5 10+ book series that weren't very popular.
The Jedi Prince 'Ken'.
@J&N Gaming and More! ^^
Taken from a wiki
"Luke Skywalker once created and used a red-bladed shoto lightsaber during the Nagai-Tof War to combat the Dark Lady Lumiya and her exotic lightwhip.[1] Many decades later, Luke would use this shoto again to combat Lumiya during the Battle of Gilatter VIII while his twin sister, Leia Organa Solo dueled Alema Rar."
@@AtimusXanth did you just quote _the exact link that i already provided?_
Jay Fairless don’t see a link anywhere here
best video-exposè so far. Good job.
Wasn't Tarkin also one of the only people helping Palpatine use clones to attempt immortality in legends? Id say its a good idea to keep the guy who can fix your extra life tanks, and stay quiet about it alive.
W8 W8 W8, Stupid commenty but it BBY and ABY means Before battle of Yavin and After battle of Yavin, how would they measure years in BBY before switching to that system?
Interesting information, but weird quasi-Snagglepuss vocal delivery.
I was just thinking the same thing. A lot of extra emphasis and an upward inflection on the ending of words.
"Jedi orderrrrrRRR"
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palpatine would have probably made tarkin his apprentice if he had been force sensitive
Turns out that Vader still holded a grudge after Ahsokas' trial.
Tarkin: Emperor, Lord Vader threatened to Force Bitch Slap me.
Emperor: I will speak with him.
I'm starting a drinking game. Every time u reword the same thing you just said I take a shot. its been 9 minutes into this video and I'm drunk as fuck.
So would Earth be considered the outer rim
Tarkins death was what soften vader enough for luke too reach his good side:)),and by that i mean vader was happy that tarkin died ,so happy that his dark side went down a few procents
Because he gave the best damn foot rubs in the galaxy
I now wanna see an AU where Tarkin has the force
"I need Tarkin. A New Hope has already been released and I don't want to screw up the timeline."
Number 15. Why Sidious Protected Tarkin From Vader and Was So Loyal to the Grand Moff!
Answer this question for me. If everything had gone according to Palpatine's plan and Vader wasn't severely injured by Obi-Wan on Mustafar, what was Palpatine's plan for Padme if she had survived? Surely he wouldn't have let her influence over Anakin get the better of his plans.
SuperStrayz The Sith have to sacrifice the thing that means the most to them, in order for them to truly become Sith. He would have made Anakin kill her, like palatine killed his own family!
He'd have killed her horribly to push Anakin further into the dark side but with his full power Anakin might have been able to bring her back to life or make her immortal before Sidious could kill her
I kinda assumed they were friends as kids on their home world because of close age and mannerisms (comparing tarkin to Palpatine as a chancellor not Emperor)
Tarkin DID come from a known family. His father was a high ranking member of the Judicial Forces who had his own notoriety.
Tarkin was one of the few competent officers in the Empire
I always wait till the end of these videos to see who or what I “do it for “. “If not for me... do it for...”
What if Tarkin had used the Death Star to try to overthrow the Emperor?
I wonder what Tarkin thought of thrawn and vice versa