Latte Art Cappuccino with Delonghi Dedica stock steam wand
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2022
- Many complain that you can't froth milk properly with Dedica's stock steam wand. However, by switching between "cappuccino" and "hot milk" modes at the right time you can actually get very close to what commercial steam wands do. Here is my take on making a cappuccino with Dedica EC685 in stock.
Great video thanks for sharing! Trying to get my dedica dialed for proper extraction! Will definitely need a scale since It seems like a very important step!
👏👏👏 Мои аплодисменты! Вот увидел, что хоть у кого-то получился кофе-арт на этой любительской кофе машине. Думал это не возможно.
причем тут кофемашина)
Hi, what is the granulation of the coffee? And since you are using a different, non-original wallet, what is it called, where can you buy it?
Я тоже так хочу научиться.
Спасибо за работу. Удачи.
Hi Yevgen. Looks amazing. I’ve some questions. What is fat percentage of milk? Is steam wand setting set up on “cappuccino adjustment”?
Sorry for not responding right away, I missed your question. Actually as for the fat percentage I use anything between 2 and 3,2% as it is not fat that matters but protein. Look for the milk with higher protein as it is easier to froth. Usually barista milk editions come with higher protetin content.
How much milk did you take for 1 cappuccino?
Good making
Привет. Где покупали бездонник, если не секрет?
Hi, what portafilter are you using? Thanks!
Евгений, подскажите, какой холдер вы используете? Буду благодарна за ссылку или название :)
Удачи вам и побольше подписчиков каналу ☺️
I have the same, the coffee is going everywhere.... not really in the cup.
How do you manage it?
Great video! What measurements do you recommend for a single shot? Is it just half what you did in this video?
Hi! I think it all depends on your preference. Traditionally single shot was 7-9 grams and double shot was 14-18 grams of ground coffee. However a single shot dose was never enough for me so I always brewed or ordered in coffee shop a "double espresso" as my base drink. The single 7 grams shot is just very little coffee for me 🙂. So 14-18 grams of coffee is my "normal single shot", I don't do less than that.
You are Great
Hi Yevgen. Great video. You really can make good latte art even with the panarello. Quick question, when I run the milk frother, it doesn't froth as long as your machine. Is there something wrong with my machine? It just barely gets warm before the lights flash and I have to release some of the hot water.
Hi, thank you! The steamer should run for as long as it's on. Try intentionally turning your steam knob all the way into the "steam" section with a little bit of force to make sure you really active the steam mode. I had similar issue to what you described for several times until I realized that I didn't turn the steam knob all the way down.
@@yevgenshatalov Thank you so much!!! You were absolutely right it wasn't activated the whole way!!! I finally have proper foam!!!
Great
Hi! I always use high temperature setting. I think thermoblock in such a small machine does not provide for a good temperature stability, so brewing on the high king of gives you more flexibility.
Your video is very useful. Do you recommend to use cold milk o just at room temperature?
It is recommended to use cold milk (from the fridge). This gives you a more control over the frothing process.
Wow 🥰
Beautiful.
Евгений, спасибо!
Подскажите пожалуйста, никак не получается толковый латте арт на этой кофе машине.
эспрессо и молоко подготавливаю правильно (визумально все как видео уроках), а вот в момент влития молока, даже когда почти прислоняю пинчер - все равно рисунок сверу не формируется, а уходит вниз. Сверху остается только когда в конце остатки более взбитые из питчера доливаю..
В чем может быть дело? Думаю может чашки маленькая.. у меня на 180 и 200мл..
Если честно, сложно сказать. Если уходит вниз, то скорее всего молоко слишком тяжелое, т.е. недостаточно взбитое. А в конце как раз остается сама пенка. Может быть слишком рано выключаете стимер? Попробуйте дольше покрутить молоко.
what is your portafilter?
Hi where did you buy your bottomless porta and what brand , as here in philippines the brand reveiews here doesnt fit the machine it leaks , hopefully your brand is avail here , thanks for this video about frothing the milk will definitely try this 😊
Hi! This one comes from China 🙂I not sure it has any brand, you can try getting it from Aliexpress. Many sellers currently sell these. Just look for "51mm bottomless portafilter for Delonghi Dedica" at the website, you find the option that suits you best.
@@yevgenshatalov thanks😊
How did you insert the portafilter into the machine with one hand? My machine needs to be held with another hand for it to stay at one place
This is a third party portafilter which fits very smoothly. The original portafilter pretty tough though, I wouldn't be able to fit it one-handed.
Nice work great video. Where did you get the portafilter from please?
Thanks! This is a bottomless portafilter from AliExpress.
@@yevgenshatalov Ahhh looks like it dispenses differently, going to check them out.
Can you remember the item description please?
@@Skijumptoes I’ve got mine from MTL HOMES STYLES, it was called “Bottomless portafilter 51mm Delonghi Dedica”
@@yevgenshatalov thank you so much, very kind of you to look it up. 😊
Where did you get the portafilter from?looks great.
I got mine from AliExpress, but from I see they are now being sold everywhere - eBay, Amazon. Just search for “delonghi dedica bottomless portafilter”. AliExpress will offer cheapest price though
Thanks. Just wondered if you’re machine is modded to 9 bars to be able to pull a shot with a bottomless
Hi there! No, it's not modded to 9 bars so I have to compensate for it with finer grind.
You definitely can use bottomless portafilter
Hi! Is there really a difference between the hot milk and cappuccino setting on the steam wand? I get the same result either way.
Hi! Yes, there is a difference. In the cappuccino mode you mostly inject large bubbles of air into the milk. You can't really swirl the milk in cappuccino mode. In the hot milk you basically inject air (micro-bubbles) and it is good for swirling your milk. The main idea is to start with cappuccino mode in order to stretch the milk by injecting the bubbles of air, and then to switch to the hot milk in order to swirl the milk turning into the micro foam. The timing, as well as the angles, are very crucial.
@@yevgenshatalov thanks for the tip!
How many milliliters of milk do you steam?
Do you need to steam milk separately or together for two portions of cappuccino?
Hi! This is a good question. I use a smaller 350 ml pitcher and fill it about half way (around 160-180 ml). I was never successful with the larger 600 ml pitcher and more milk (it takes too long and I just can’t make a good vortex) so yes, I steam milk for each cup of cappuccino separately.
Thank you very much! I'm still a beginner and I can't make a nice shape. :/ Congratulations on yours.
How long do you steam the milk and when do you do the switch? Also what does switching from cappuccino to hot milk do?
Hello my friend, I do everything by eye. I start with little bit over half of the jar of milk. After the milk “expands” to approximately 4/5 of the jar and I start hearing that paper clipping noise I switch to “hot milk”. Hot milk mode is basically spinning the milk to better integrate bubbles from “cappuccino” mode.
Thanks. Is there like a rough time estimate? Like at 30s or something @@yevgenshatalov
Wow not bad
Did u used the hot milk Option?
I start with “cappuccino” mode to stretch the milk to about 30% and then switch to “hot milk” to make it swirling and incorporate the bubbles.
@@yevgenshatalov ah ok interesting will try this approach next time
greeeat!!
How fine is your grind with the bottomless ?
It all depends on beans, but usually somewhere between 1 and 3 of extra-fine.
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Yevgen , could you tell me please where I can buy the same Portofilter for my Delonghi , Thnaks in Advance.
Hi! I've got mine from AliExpress. Check out "delonghi dedica bottomless portafilter" at their site and you will find plenty of options.
@@yevgenshatalov Thanks a lot 🤝
nice 🙂
Здравствуйте. А какая, у Вас кофемолка? Тоже купил такой рожок и ничего не выходит, брызги во все стороны... из-за помола
Добрый день! Nevona 130 с доработкой, дорабатывается очень просто (подкручивается болт).
The milk looks so nice!!! I have a similar wand but cant get my milk to froth like that 😫
It all depends on technique and, which is also important, the milk itself. I found it that only high protein milk (like above 3g or protein) turns into micro-foam easily with this wand. Everything below 3g (like 2,6-2,8) tends to turn into large bubbles. Keep refining your technique with proper milk :-)
same here😔
@@yevgenshatalov how much fat content should have in the milk for this kind of latte art.
@@painpeace3619 it's not fat but protein that makes a difference. Look for milk with higher protein (3g or higher). Over here it's usually 2,5-3,2 fat milk. But again, sometimes I see a low protein 3,0g fat milk. Fat alone will make big bubbles. Look for milk with higher protein.
@@yevgenshatalov I will try this thank you for sharing🙏
Bonjour,
Comment avez-vous fait pour que ça mette 25s alors que vous appuyer sur simple espresso ?
Avez vous modifier le temps sur la machine ?
Hello my friend, I didn't change anything. The double-shot setting on Dedica aims at mililiters, not the time, I believe. So the finer you grain the longer it will take to get to the volume you need. The espresso shot should extract for 25-30 seconds.
@@yevgenshatalov thanks !!!
Добрый вечер! Подскажите, как вы меняли скорость пролива? У вас так медленно проливается эспрессо, загляденье! У меня после кнопки включения 15 сек всего. Это зависит от помола кофе? Или можно как-то настроить?
Добрый день! Да, все правильно, от помола. Чем мельче помол, тем больше сопротивление и соответственно медленей поток и лучшая экстракция кофе.
practice steaming.... listen to the milk :)
Can you tell me what kind of bottomless bottle brand name?
Hello! This is a no-name portafilter from China, from Aliexpress. There are many stores selling these types of portafilters on that platform.
Do you use double or single portafilter? Thanks!
Hi! This is a bottomless portafilter that comes with double basket (18 grams).
А где такой купить?
@@shetnemo940 AliExpress
@@shetnemo940 проще всего на алиэкспресс - delonghi dedica bottomless portafilter. Там масса опций с разными ручками и вариациями.
Hi
Gaggia carezza deluxe or delonghi dedica is better coffee machine?
Hi! I never used that machine, but briefly looking at the specs I guess it would be more about your preferences. The main difference is the heating system. Dedica has a thermoblock, meaning it reaches operating temperature really fast, you can steam as much milk as you want without having the machine to warm up again (I usually make 4 milk drinks in a row for my wife and kids and that's why Dedica is a better choice for me), etc. Gaggia has a boiler, I assume a very tiny one, meaning longer heating times, maybe worse temp stability because of the size, maybe one cup of frothing milk at a time, on the other hand it has cup warmer, but overall it is a very basic tiny-boiler machine. Also I like the overall design and the footprint of Dedica more than Carezza. Both machines have pressurized portafilters and panarelos. So it depends on your preferences.
@@yevgenshatalov Thank you very much for your reply, keep up the good worκ
Hola qué tal? Cual es el calibre Perfecto para el moler el café de esa cafetera? Tengo un moledor delongi tambien
Hi! I don't have delonghi coffee grinder, but for a proper espresso your grind setting is somewhere around extra-fine. The exact setting will depend on your coffee beans, roast level, dose, etc.
May i ask please how many ml of milk you used? Thank u
I have a 300 ml milk jar and usually pour 2/3 of milk.
This is really inpressive but it is not "very close to a commercial steam wand". Dont get me wrong i dont want to play it down but even with a good not commercial steam wand you get better results relatively easy. Still damn impressive! Are you planning on upgrading at some point or do you love getting the best result with this maschine?
Thank you for your feedback! I know what you mean and I agree. I haven't thought seriously about upgrading yet, as the war in my country changed the way we live and the things we buy. Eventually I would like to get a machine with proper 9 bars pressure, OVP, wider portafilter and better temperature stability. But that's something to think about after victory. Cheers!
muy bueno amigo
From whee did you get the bottomless port-filter and what's the name of it? Thanks
You can find lot's of them at Aliexpress, I believe Ebay sells them as well. Just search for Delonghi Dedica Bottomless Portafilter.
Did you use pre boiled milk or raw milk??
This is a slightly pasteurized milk (we have raw milk that lasts for 2 days, then slightly pasteurized that lasts from 7 to 12 days, and fully pasteurized that lasts for a year or so) if this is what you mean, but I didn’t do any tricks to it, this is how it is being sold by the store.
@@yevgenshatalov can i use pre boiled milk for frothing
@@UNKNOWN-jk6jb I am not sure, it all depends what do you mean by pre boiling. I think milk proteins are denaturated and destroyed when you boil it, which my affect the quality of your froth (as the proteins are crucial for good good froth)
@@yevgenshatalov thank you
Does it have pre infusion?
Yes it does. But use Google search, he is not Delonghi's support center.
I have the exact machine, but when I push the far left button to start the extraction, it often just drips a bit and does nothing. I then have to push the same far left button 2-3 times before it starts the extraction process fully. Anyone know why it won't start the process after just one button push like it should?
The process is that after you push a button the machine does a pre-infusion (drips a bit) and then stops for several seconds, and then it runs the actual extraction. Did you try to wait a few seconds? It sounds like your machine does the pre-infusion only. Perhaps there is an issues with programming? You can actually reprogram the buttons to change the extraction timing, I don't remember though whether you can change the pre-infusion.
@@yevgenshatalov thanks. However, I'm pretty sure I was grinding the beans way too fine. I don't grind the beans as fine anymore and don't seem to have the problem anymore.
@@michalsavatar7 it’s true, when the grind is too fine it chokes the portafilter and the machines stops pumping water.
I have the 680m can I still do this?
I think your panarello wand does not have "hot milk/cappuccino" settings, so it always injects bubbles into the milk for frothy cappuccino. I'd assume it would be more challenging to froth the milk for microfoam with your panarello.
Portafilter link please ❤
I bought mine here - www.aliexpress.com/item/4001003737652.html, but there are plenty of them on AliExpress
Tutt stu burdell pe nu caffè?!
Тут бы на обычном фильтре на ней научится делать)уже четыре пачки перевёл ,на пойму что за ерунда
Para que más solo bueno
Не знаю как попал на канал,но Женя наверное понимает русский язык)
Я вчера так расстроился с кофемашиной,что сегодня не хочу делать кофе!
5 лет пользовался 685 ой моделью,а вчера купил 885 ую!
Сплошные разочарования !
Элементарную ложку для кофе ,на которую раньше в 685 ой говорили что она плохая - теперь она стала вообще - ужас!
Фильтра для холдера - вообще мрак !
Я ещё успел купить 685 - когда не было резинок внутри корзин - теперь вместе с остатками кофе - резинки могут выпасть в мусорку ,да и вообще - для кофеманов - это НЕ ДОПУСТИМО !
И наконец - Капучинатор !!!
Это просто fuck,с первой минуты всбивания молока!!!!!!!! Молоко сильно нагревается,и у меня не получается сделать красивую пену как в прошлой модели !
Жду такой же рожок и ручную кофемолку, надеюсь хоть в этом порадуюсь!
На видео всё чётко - молодец!
С капучинатором там главное поймать правильный угол и глубину погружения + время. По идее на 885 сделать правильное молоко проще, просто нужно набить руку спалив несколько литров молока) А вот сам кофе безусловно заиграет только на бездоннике.
@@yevgenshatalov можете ссылку на бездонник сбросить пожалуйста?
@@leshaprischits я покупал у этого продавца, там масса вариантов по ручкам, все было хорошо, но в целом их много на алике - www.aliexpress.com/item/4001003737652.html
Всё классно сделал , но насадку можно убрать, и взбить молоко ..
Можно, да, но нужно чем-то закреплять резиновую трубку, чтоб не сорвало, и эстетический вид с резинкой у машины уже не тот. Идея была попробовать как работают режимы hot milk/cappuccino именно с панарелло.
@@yevgenshatalov я закрепила с обычной черным пластмассовым хамутом
Myślałem, że 14g to maksimum dla tej kolby. Powyżej tej gramatury kawa wychodzi kwaśna.
Kawa jest kwaśna tylko vgen są niedoekstrahowana. Trudniej jest ekstrahować 18 gramów kawy niż 14, więc to może smakować kwaśno. Aby zrekompensować większą ilość kawy, należy odpowiednio dostosować ustawienie mielenia.
@@yevgenshatalov Dziękuję za odpowiedź. Wydawało mi się, że dobrze zmieliłem kawę, bo mam uzysk 2 razy więcej naparu niż kawy w około 25 sekund. Wydłużając ten czas kawa nie dość, że jest kwaśna to jeszcze robi się jednocześnie gorzka. Myślałem, że to raczej ekspres nie daje rady. Jestem wdzięczny za wszelkie sugestie, bo jeszcze wiele nauki przede mną 🙂
@@leju666 Gorzka kawa jest wtedy, gdy jest nadmiernie ekstrahowana, więc masz rację, trzeba znaleźć ten złoty środek. Dotyczących ten ekspres, spróbuj przejść na proporcje 1:2,5 a takze zmniejsz ekstrakcję do 20-22 sekund. Możesz też spróbować trochę grubszego mielenia na 18 gramów niż na 14.
@@yevgenshatalov Dobry pomysł, spróbuję w taki sposób. A czy temperatura wody ma jakieś znaczenie? Może warto wcześniej trochę rozgrzać grupę@ albo wręcz przeciwnie ?
@@leju666 zwykle zależy to od ziaren kawy. lżejsze pieczenie ziaren wymaga wyższych temperatur dla lepszej ekstrakcji. W każdym razie, zrobienie pustego shota z tym ekspresem przed parzeniem kawy w celu rozgrzania grupy to jest dobry pomysł. Zawsze robię to samo.
😂😂, 😂
No fingers temp
Noticed a few flaws, measuring coffee grinds weight, but spilling quite a lot of it (roughly 0.5g), not tamping level, stopping the timer wayyyyyyyyyyy to late ( about 4s, as you're supposed to stop when the machine stops, which is 22.5s, which is also an underextracted shot)
Hi! I agree, this one in particular is not the perfect shot 🙄. Indeed, it is not leveled perfectly and I did lost some coffee while dispensing it. Something I noted as well while watching the actual footage 🙈 But I still decided to leave it as is, as the focus of this video was steaming milk. I have another video, actually the one before it, where I did a more thorough work on pulling out the shot. I’d say better tamping, dispensing and timing 😉 Feel free to review that one and provide the feedback.
The hissing sounds are too loud compared to the music which was quite unpleasant to listen to with headphones.
Who cares about your headphones?! Turn the bloody volume lower and learn the sound of paper-cuts when frothing milk. This is not a music video.
what is this spinning technique does? this spinning here? 0:34 seems like your basket is for 15g - 16g max isnt it ? just saying
Hi! It is just for better distribution of coffee. Technically, the basket is 18 grams, but different types of coffee usually have different volume after being grind (like lighter roasts are usually fluffier and take more space until being tamped, if you know what I mean).
The spinning of the grind cup helps with getting all the powder off the cup and also makes a "mountain" on the portafilter so it will be easier to aerate and tamper without spilling on the countertop. But our friend Yevgen here was rushing and he spilled some grind nonetheless. :)