This New Russian TOR Air Defense System Is A Real Threat To NATO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2022
- This New Russian TOR Air Defense System Is A Real Threat To NATO.
In his famous treatise on the art of war, Karl von Clausewitz proclaimed that the first and most important thing that a statesman and commander must understand on the eve of a war is the type of war it actually is.
The Treatise On War had more influence on military leaders in the 19th and 20th centuries than any other book. In the 21st century, many of the theses of von Clausewitz have not lost their relevance. After all, he was interested in, first and foremost, the philosophy and metaphysics of war, which, unlike weaponry, barely change over the centuries.
We will now be discussing two of the most significant American developments which underpin the States’ superiority at both strategic and tactical levels. We will begin with the strategic UAV, and then follow up by covering new incredible laser-guided bullets.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it wouldn't survive five minutes on the Los Angeles freeway system......
All your weapons are toys to Russia 🇷🇺
And your president is fully aware against Russia 🇷🇺 US and all their allies do not have the fighting chance
lol
Yeah yeah yeah we hear this all the time. The war in Ukraine is showing something. Antiaircraft is antiaircraft . The weapons might be good but the training of these Russian soldiers is subpar so by default the weapons are useless. The Russian tanks and their special forces were supposed to rival U.S. tanks and special forces but that proves to be a bust.
Russian special forces kind of showed some weakness in Syria when 'mercenaries' embedded with Spetznaz got tromped when attacking a few U.S. special forces. Ukraine is just reiterating the point again and again.
What are you smoking, U.S. General Lyod Austin last week called The Russian General and asked Russia to stop it's military activities in Ukraine, he would not have did that if Ukraine was wining.😂😂
@@mr.shockedatreality4310 If the call actually happened that is exactly why it would have been made. There is a fundamental misunderstanding with totalitarian regimes as to how the West thinks. Making threats guarantees a military attack. It is Casus Belli. Saying to an enemy "I would recommend that you cease military action against us ASAP" is a massive warning with teeth. The bad guys get it wrong every time. They do not understand English and the implicit strength in certain phrases.
Yea but Ukraine is kicking their butts! They have a lot of new equipment from the west!
@@squireson I hate to break it to you but the Russian forces are the best on the planet , the United States and NATO would get absolutely slaughtered if got involved , for get crap dished out by the western MSM , Russia has already won the conflict and clown Spetsnaz has never come up against the yanks in Syria because if they did all the yanks over their would have been taken home in body bags , hey you really want to here the truth , then watch this...
th-cam.com/video/tOmLRLyiknQ/w-d-xo.html
Russian military equipment: great on paper, sh*t on the battlefield.
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You do realize that Russia is winning right?
@@waynewilson8714 I realise you’re a vodka bot with a 6-month old account.
@@bluecanary9417 , Can't you express yourself better than that to defend your little outburst?
@@waynewilson8714 You get the response you deserve, vodka bot. And in intelligible English to boot. You’re welcome.
If the Tor is such a significant weapon, then why did it get killed by 2 Ukrainian su-27s attacking snake island ? They had to cross open water, with literally _no_ radar cover from hills or terrain. Might this be another paper bear ?
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Probly not on their job or not ordered to be even turned on.
You are correct sir
Why don't The Ukrops show video footage of that, this video is lying, for example the video of the NLAW hitting that T-72B3 doesn't tell the viewer that it did NOT destroy the Tank, and there's a video with the Tank driver showing no destruction to the Tank.😮😊
@@mr.shockedatreality4310 They have (snake Island attack) and the video is available online. The NLAW attack was from too close. If they had waited for it to be more than 20 metres away then it would have taken out the tank. NLAWs have proven to be vastly more effective than expected. Many Russian tank and vehicle crews have been barbequed by them.
Does somebody go around with jumper cables and start these relics?
Hope they haven't got Chinese tyres on
Get me a toy store drone and two military grenades.
'up to' I love those useless phrases.
Lets be real: without imported electronics, russia is not building anything. And the TOR has so far failed. I am not impressed.
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use your brain a little bit they can get them from china or other countriesor even manufacture them locally but they are behind west by 9 years if i'm not wrong
@@gerard02700 use your brain, Russia does not have the facilities to produce micoelectronics - and guess who builds the machinery you need for a fab. Hint: neither China nor India.
Also, the export ban of the US bans exporting ALL electronics that contain US company's IP. So China can not deliver ANYTHING without violating that ban.
Basically, Russia has neither the capability nor brains to build fabs (which would take years anyway) and they can't import anything.
Всю технику РФ производит полностью своими силами.
@@user-oj1kt6yn9q no, it doesn't. Since the end of the soviet union, russia has been dependent on all kinds of imports. From basic electronics to whole optics.
2:18 Where came those two holes from?
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The missile is slower (by about 750mph) than Star Streak. Double the effective altitude. In Ukraine the Russians may have sent the systems in but they sat in the traffic jams not deployed. When an 'invincible' warship has its radar either turned off, operators asleep or perhaps more likely drunk and gets sunk by a couple of missiles there is a systemic problem that the best system in the world cannot fix.
No.
Ukraine just captured one of those... now in US hands 😎👍
No proof but all propaganda. Last time i check Ukraine is just getting smaller Russia is claiming its territory given for free during the break up of the Soviet Union if you do not agree with me talk to the Russian speaking population of the east.
Russian also captured almost all of the equipment send by NATO, but that is a story we wouldn't get until 50 years more
This might be a threat to us if they could buy those cutting edge technology from us to manufacture these weapons. 😂👍
wishful thinking did you forget china?
Hello , good video , greetings 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Thank you very much!
Give me a break!!!
The weakness of the TOR is being overwhelmed by direct incoming munitions. Each only has 16 missiles. So fire enough ammo at it that it cannot repel all incoming munitions.
It only took two su-27s to kill on TOR on snake island, recently. Just some high drag 'dumb' bombs dropped at supersonic speed. Until this is explained, all those numbers on paper are just that and nothing more.
А есть ПВО у которого больше 16 ракет?
Yeah, and I'm princess Darth Vader with a touch of hotsauce.
Russia looks like the best military in the world.
in the world of sarcasm you are correct.
only in theory, the "modern" russian military is failing horribly in ukraine
that was part of Putin´s plans
I agree. I'm Irish-American veteran of 3 wars, 2 continents and I have no pony in this race, but Ukraine are not only guzzling Russia but if Ukraine loses, we look bad & America don't like to look bad. [Biden/Afgahnastan not included] That was his double who fell asleep, eh, whatever.
Yeah, and that's why Russia is joining 2 new regions
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Has estado en el campo de batalla?
Ooooh we’re so scared. Shaking in muh boots! 😲
THIS VIDEO IS A JOKE, DON'T YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE WAR? UKRAINE ALSO TOOK ONE OF THIS MACHINE ABANDON HAHAHAHAHA.
It's not really. We have quite a few things that can defeat it. Russian radar, even that on the S-400, can't track F-35 and F-22 in stealth mode. These ADS were built to take out subsonic cruise missiles, drones, helicopters, and 4 gen aircraft that got to close. They would not perform well against modern weapons and tactics used by NATO. Sure if they caught you not paying attention you will get a nasty surprise but unless they turn on the radar at the last minute, we would know were all of these are located and be tracking them before we even were in their theater. Then its just a matter of clearing them out. We always take out air defense and establish air superiority first.
Unlike the Russians, the US military think tanks are gathering data from every single engagement in the world and watching how each military acts and conducts itself, then comes up with tactics and battle strategies to defeat that military in the most efficient way with the lowest cost in life. Russians are always a few decades behind and we learned a lot about Russians in Ukraine.
What do you mean by stealth mode? Without radar and communication f 35 can't do much, and that thing doesn't home on radar, it's targeting frame. All advantage that stealth brings is it will be visible later than aircraft of 4th generation. How you can be sure that it's radar can't truck f 35? Somewhat loud statement, in Ukraine fighters 4++ generation were engaged with ancient Soviet missiles and radars.
@@dmitryhetman1509 You make a lot of assumptions here you have no knowledge of. First lets talk about how stealth works. There are multiple ways to detect an enemy. You can detect its physical components, its thermal components( such as the hot exhaust), and you can detect its electronic components( such as active scanning radar). To provide stealth, you need to defeat these abilities.
US made stealth aircraft defeat the physical and thermal by using specially designed airframes and stealth paint. The radar cross section of export F-35s is said to be about that of a smallish bird, while that of the F-22 is about the size of bumblebee. Versions made for the US military are always better. This means that a radar system has to be able to detect a target the size of a small bird, decide it is a threat and not clutter, track it, and find a firing solution to it. If the defense system cannot complete all of these steps it cannot even attempt to defend itself. You can also track its radar signal. Western aircraft that has been modernized or is of an modern generation ( which is almost all active service US aircraft) does not need to use its own radar. It can use information fed to it from other sources such as AWACS which can stay outside threat range but still gather threat data.
The F-35 was also built, electronically, to support other aircraft. It can collect data and feed it through datalinks to other aircraft that are not as advanced. The US military, unlike the Russian military, has a very high level of cohesion. Our military is not only designed to work together but all of its systems are designed to support each other. The F-35 and F-22 are built for SAM penetration in hostile airspace. When i say stealth mode, that means limited use of active systems and using no external hardpoints. These aircraft compromise stealth when using external hardpoints which they sometimes do depending on mission and loadout. So they do sacrifice their stealth for a heavier loadout.
This all before you get to electronic countermeasures which the F-35 has a variety of because it was built to penetrate enemy airspace. We have AGMs that can be used from outside of the range of this TOR. And as it was mentioned it can be defeated even with dumb bombs from outside of its range.
Ukraine uses Soviet fighters. There is a significant difference between Soviet/Russian 4 gen + fighters and Western 4 gen + fighters. If the difference was relatively small then the Ukrainians would be flying older US 4 gen + fighters. The tech difference between US and Soviet fighters of the same gen is pretty large. US systems are more complex and require a lot more training to use. Also active service Western hardware is constantly updated while in active service. So our F-16 for example have had dozens and dozens of updates as tech and threats involved. Russia on the other hand is slow to update their equipment and often do so in limited numbers. USSR/Russia also tends to be a couple of decades at minimum behind the US in tech because Russian strategy seems to be based on WW2 strategy, produce a lot of hardware cheaply and throw it at the enemy until you overwhelm them. That is not an efficient way to use your resources but it the one that even Russia uses today. Western strategy is to preserve the lives of soldiers and non combatants and the life of the platform being used. This way during war time we can focus on producing mostly ammo instead of ammo, equipment, and new soldiers.
In reality, the only thing saving Russia, is its nuclear weapons and the fact that China actually makes an effort at new tech, though its not been battle tested. Otherwise the US would have helped the Ukrainians ( such help has broad support in the US), and removed the Russian government and restored it to the citizens of Russia. The US isn't a threat to the people of other countries, its a threat to the authoritarian governments of other countries. That is a huge difference but the authoritarian governments like to scare their people into thinking that the US is evil. The reality is we believe heavily in freedom and human rights and that doesn't work with authoritarian governments.
@@ldavis6083 russian jets are capable of detecting and tracking stealth fighters, because they use something else then radar. I can’t remember how its called but works different then radar so stealth technology is useless. Ok it only detects planes in front of it, but it’s better to only see in front of you then not seeing at all.
@@yarnickgoovaerts I believe you are referring to the Nebo-M system which is a ground based radar. Russia claims that it can detect F-35s and F-22s with the radar. The Nebo-M supposedly has a very long detection range of normal aircraft. There are multiple factors at play. First, the further away from radar that you get, the more that the curvature of earth affects it. Old aircraft like the f-117 were meant to fly high out of SAM range. The F-35 is designed to be flown low. So the curvature of the earth is in play much longer.
Two, there are several things that make stealth aircraft less stealthy. For example, having a loadout on external pylons. These give the aircraft a much bigger signature. Using afterburners increase IR signature and compromise stealth. Also having active scan radar turned on makes them easy to detect. 5th Gen US aircraft can use data uplinks instead of their own radar. Broadcasting IFF is also a giveaway. It literally says " I am at this location". All of this is important in a minute.
Three, stealth aircraft are not totally invisible. They are just harder to detect which means the radar has to be more powerful and the aircraft has to be closer to the radar to be detected. There is also a huge difference between being able to detect an aircraft and being able to track it and being able to get a firing solution on it. If you can't track an aircraft, you can't get a firing solution on it and thus being able to detect it isn't of much use.
Fourth, 5th gen aircraft have several built in electronic countermeasures that can be used to defeat radar systems and missile threats.
I am sure Russia did detect F-35s with their radar systems... when those F-35s are flying over friendly territory with a defense loadout( AAMs) on the wings, active radar, and broadcasting IFF every radar made in the last 40 years can detect them. Russia likes to embellish stuff like this but the truth is that Russian radar has never encountered a 5th gen aircraft in a full stealth mission mode. Because the F-35 has never been used in combat. Most of its capabilities are still unknown outside of those who have clearance and work with the plane. The F-22 is even more secretive as we don't export it.
I wouldn't believe Russian hype about their capabilities until they actually prove them on the field. Russia tends to fall significantly short of its claims in combat.
@@ldavis6083 no it was something else. I can’t remember how it’s called but I know it looks like a ball near the nose of their aircraft. Perhaps this helps you identifying it, although I doubt you know anything about Russian military equipment
Yawn! Pass me the NLaw.
How much of the Usa GDP is spent on military?
Yes I understand it is very capable of shooting down Commerical airlines like Boeing 747 carrying innocent civilians
Can't compare to the BUKs for that !! They've never missed a commercial airliner yet !
Esay this troy
It's all junk from Russia 👈😁 hahaha
Like everything the Russian have, most will be broke down and out of commission
and critical parts stolen
Fear monger
Has it meet... Mud, Zero Fuel, Zero Maintenance and 😎😁... Ukrainian 🇺🇦 farmers
Blah Blah Blah
I'm guessing most of these are not even turned on currently? Because if so then wtf? They probably see taking a drone out with one as a waste but in reality the Ukrainian drone/arty communication has been a true ballet of perfection and would be at this point worth one of those but I'm guessing they can't replace the munitions easily now. I have no idea though honestly just what I see and that means nothing in the grand scheme so 🤷🏻♂️
Wow! Quite a pleroma from the koolaid kommentariat here
enemy of america friend of the world
Smells just like BS.
It is impossible to recognize simultaneously a right of a people to self-determination, including separation, and at the same time to infringe roughly on that right by imposing on the people in question a certain type of government...."
" On the territory of the Ukrainian people's republic, all power belongs to Ukrainian "Democracy" and therefore any threat to overthrow that power will be met with force. "
How many do they have? My guess…10 - 15 units
170+ at the start of the year, but not all would be operational (need crews, training, maintenance, etc.), and not all could be sent to Ukraine. Previous experience is claimed to be good, but the evidence doesn't really support that. It doesn't mean it doesn't work well, just that the evidence it does is lacking.
Их больше 2000
This needs destroyer n snipers n ak klitchikov n asram
It already has fighter jet tank radar cryptocurrency
Mine it's crypto to protect or destroy
"TOR Air Defense System Is A Real Threat To NATO"
yeah and ukraine farmers with their tractors are a deadly threat to TOR, lol
Why NATO invade Libia Afghanistan irak thousands of miles away.but they don't cross the polish borders to defend a friend Russian weapons are old and obsolete according to wester media and expertss.? Do you ever ask that question.
Russians
Hahahahahahaha... aahahahahahaha..
First of all I would like to know how many of these exist, because if there are like 20 they don't make any difference
All these systems are a potential threat. But considering peer amd much more advanced systems like this are routinely defeated at red flag by 4th gen platforms. Israeli f35s have already snuck past Syrian s3/400 systems.
they flew into irans capital lol
Tracks up to 48 objects at a time but still gets destroyed🤔
I mean it can’t launch 48 missiles at a time..
"Putin is a dangerous enemy" pot calling the kettle black... and lying like a rug...
Everything Russia makes always seems better than any similar Western weapon - except when it comes to actual combat - refer Ukraine 2022.
it seems that you have the wrong idea about this conflict ukraine is using soviet weapons except javelin ,stinger .....
Yes? the tor system has actual footage destroying drones. yes some have passed but when russia deployed the tor system the drones attacks and media suddenly stopped showing drones attack, i wonder why? lol. coz tor system took care for it
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It is Russian so it is not going to work as advertised.
Now Ukraine should give NATO a couple of these captured units to know exactly what they can do.
So true. Russia is giving NATO their weapon for studying. Because Russia soldiers run away like a cowards.
Не смогут , потому что Зеленский клоун и наркоман.
American's military equipments is useless in Ukrain war against Russia, if u say usa military equipments more advanced , why why this Ukrainian Forces loses in battle fields. Most of equipments supply by USA & UK! Look into Patriot system that you all say best in the world which is supply by USA has been completely distroyed by Russian forces system including 10 american forces died. Most of all battle fields conquering by Russian forces. Really respect the Russian & all types of equipments there used.
Yah yah see this one “Tor”
A few destroy in Ukraine! Hah
More over Ukraine take a few of good
One ( no damage) for American to
See how good it is
And Ukraine take to shoot back at Russia aircraft ha ha
The tor is so good,it has shot down more TB2's than Ukraine ever had.That means the tor complex is clairvoyant and can shoot down things yet to be.
блд, да что ты говоришь )))))) насмотрелись мы уже металлолома в Украине ))))
Укроп , ты металалом
All you have to do is jam it’s way to communicate then it’s done ! Then if you can take control of just 1 of those missiles and send it back to blow the tor up ! Yeah they probably figured no one would ever figure out that weakness ! With the latest technology you won’t have to worry about tor or tor2 because they will take a satellite and take over its control or jam it we’re it will be rendered useless ! Also they have lazars that they can just hit any part of it and fry electronics for good then it’s jus a setting heap of steel with a bunch explosives on it ! Ronald Reagan’s Star Wars program helped out things along the way we still don’t know all about what they came up with!
Pinag yayabang lang yan!
God is more significant than this weapon!
NATO equipment is shit compared to Russian gear
Funny....
Love the sarcasm 👍🤏
Is that why Russians are losing 3 days putin said a smaller country Ukraine with the bravest people in the world Russians don't even know why they are there
Simply fill the control signal with 180° phase change radio hash
Тор под защитой от помех
Too nice explained of this Russian made air defense systems TOR M2 which throws long ranges missiles & it's controls aren't remains after releasing also missiles has minnuvoraity... capability..against( NATO weapons)........video clearly labels dead points of TOR M2. ...it's attacking in 60 degree Angle by Javelin and NLOW.....nice video in clearly explained its characteristics...thanks.(.Daily Aviation) channel
this is the Army,best of the world !!!!
At dying....
I agree Ukraine are the bravest people russian so.diers don't even know why they are there
Hahaha 😆 Ukraine 🇺🇦 seeing to peeing on tham Russia 🇷🇺 things seen very good looking but break downs .old toys from Russia .
Ukraine knocked one of these out today. 🤣
So, how is a defensive system a threat to NATO?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
They are crap.
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Don't under estimate russia ,seeing this special military operation in ùkraine...In All out War ...RUSSIA IS 2ND LARGEST IN WORLD
in what all out war then? are you talking about the past or predicting the future?
168 planes, 125 helicopters, 912 drones aircraft destroyed Ukrainian decide for yourself if tor works well👍
One amazing air defence systems, Russian TOR-ME2, probably the best in the world at what it does. Annihilated the bayraktar drones and half the Ukrainian air force.
Vlad is that you?!?!
Except the bayraktar drones and Ukrainian air force are still flying.
It isn't anything that the stinger can't fix........
Its Russian made. And is TOTAL GARBAGE 🗑