As a Turk, I thought the video was clickbait for Turk viewers before watching it. Then I watched the whole video. This is a masterpiece that tells all of Turkish air defense history. You have no information only KAAN, also you are well-informed about details of parts. I appreciate!
I reckon they used their involvement in the JSF program to develop the aircraft, after getting kicked out of the program due to the purchase of one of those S-300, S-400, or S-XXX whatever Russian-designed air defense radar systems.
@@tomsmith6513 it's a little more than that; no European nation (despite participation in the same program) has a domestically produced 5th gen aircraft that's had its maiden flight
5th Gen is an US defence marketing made up thing. The defence systems aren't evaluated like that even in the US. That's why the F22 are scrapped and the F15 built with the latest upgrades.
@nahitakyel put away the hammer kind sir We are allied are we not? A real nice bit of kit for defending one’s country so let’s all hope it never has to be used.
@@peterweller8583 peekaboo's response was to your incorrect statement that Turkey is #1 in UAV technology. The US has had combat UAV's way before Turkey built their first one. The MQ9 Reaper and a couple of others secret UAVs they have developed recently are more advanced than anything Turkey has. Germany and France also have very advanced military UAV's, most of which have been kept a secret. So it has nothing to do with alliances that you speak of. He is disputing your false statement. Turkey's UAV's just got more exposure recently because they were used in Azerbaijan in the war with Armenia, and in the Ukraine against Russia, so the world got to see what armed UAVs can do in the battefield which happened to be made in Turkey. You cannot seriously compare a $2M Bayraktar TB2 to a $32M Reaper. BTW, all the Turkish drones were shot down in Ukraine after the first couple of months, and several were shut down in Libya before that by decades old anti-aircraft weapons.
Guys "Khan" is also from central asia, it means a kind of "king" it is written "Han" Kaan is also kind of a derivative from Han, "Khagan" means the king of the kings.
bilmediğin konuda konuşma... Han ın başında ki H harfi gırtlaktan HIRILTILI söylenir yani KHAN olarak söylenir o yüzden KAĞAN KAHAN KHAN gibi DUYULUR.. Aslı HAN dır. ama yazılışı okunuşa uydurursan KHAN dır.
Turkish is coming from Central Asia as well. But khan, kaan and hakan have different meanings in details. Khan (han) is king, kaan is king of kings like emperor, hakan is conquering han, when big enough he will be kaan. There also other noble class like bey(beg) like lords, yabgu like prince of princedoms.
As an American, I'm already more impressed by Turkey's efforts than by the Chinese. The KAAN is an extremely ambitious goal, and I wish Turkey the best of success!
As an American, i was expecting chinese military industry to surprize us with cutting edge technologies and def. not the turks. I am impressed and tbh kizilelma has am amazing design. Keep it going turks!!!
For a middle power, the achievements of the Turkish Aerospace Industry is a marvel to behold. So much progress in many areas in such a short span of time that rivals the great powers. KAAN can only get better from here. An excellent analysis Gus.
And they have the right strategic stance: develop independent capabilities to be independent from other actors on the world stage. Europe MUST shift its armaments stance in the same way. It has nothing to do with being a 'bad ally' if one develop its own weapon systems. We see it currently what it means if weapon systems have 'strings attached' by their country of origin. And since more and more weapon systems rely heavily on programs and electronic interactions ... it is irresponsible and dangerous to accept some kind of 'back door' in the systems that allows another actor to compromise them.
I want to remind the influence of Turkey from Imperial times. Turkey has direct political influence from North Africa to Middle east, from Balkans to Caucausus, From Central Asia to South Asia. Even when Turkey build a standart featured weapon with reasonable price many countries would prefer to buy it from Turkey due to historical connections and mutual interests. Because Turkey wouldn't impose sanctions to those countries like western manufacturers do. So if Kaan will successfully enter the mass production not only Azerbaijan and Pakistan will buy it. Central Asian countries, Arabic Gulf Countries, North African countries would buy it too. And more production means price per unit will be cheaper. That would make the project more sustainable and price competetive than western alternatives.
No one in Balkan has any political influence or brotherly relationship with Turkey. We all hate it. We are not middle east or North Africa. Only albanians are somewhat tied cause they are muslims...
@@JosephFactsOnly It is not a junk. It is a twin engine advanced 4 generation jet. 4,5 generation. It has stealth geometry and internal weapon base.. Even without 5th generation engine it is more stealthy than Rafale or Typhoon. It has new technology (gaN) AESA radar. It has all kinds of indigenous ammunition from air to aşr missiles to crıuise missiles even gliding bombs. So most of the countries in the world don't have jets in such standarts. It is not equal to f35 yet. But when 5th generation engine will be ready it will be more capable than f35 in next 10 years. But probably USA will have 6th generation jets untill that time.
@@darkprofile I read all the specifications on the KAAN,the Turkish was supposed to be in full development on f-35 lightning but they got KICKED out because they wanted the s400 from Russia instead🤣 Too bad your NATO buddy's stabbed you in the back. ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS EACH, They are Junk as a NATO member, nobody in NATO is going to buy them 🤣 MiG 29 the 4.5 generation fighter is 22-25 million is a better bet for developing countries with a tight budget.
The Turkish engineers and material scientists must maintain momentum in order to keep the Kaan competitive. The design, while relatively conventional for a fifth generation planform, is brilliant. I can’t wait as the Kaan continues to develop and mature into a world class fighter. I agree with you wholeheartedly - the indigenous chip manufacturing must continue to advance.
I like how you don't trash other countries technology and just look at things through more objective lens. I became a subcriber almost 2 years ago when you said (and I'm paraphrasing) "brilliant minds are everywhere not only in western countries" and I think this video is a really good example of that. I really enjoy your videos because I feel I'm learning useful things and not just consuming overrated propaganda, just admiration for human achievment. Keep the good work!
@@jeffreysojo4187 even if it wasn't your point, it's still a mistake worth correcting. Also, the non-westrern brilliant minds often times simply move to the west because of better life conditions
In my opinion the only real problem the non-western brilliant minds have is in some cases a lack of funding. Some countries just arren't as willing to spend themselves into unsurmountable debt as others.
buna mecburuz ukrayna savaşı suriye iç savaşı ırakın işgali israilın ortadoğuda yaptığı soykırım ve bir çok tehdit bizi bu teknolojiye sahip olmamızı gerektiriyor başarılı olacağız miili gemiler uçak gemileri deniz altılar insansız savaş uçakları dronelar ve savaş uçağı ve daha bir çok silaha ihtiyacımız var bağımsızlık ve tehditlere karşı halkımızın savunması için başaracağız
The project has clearly been a full success at this point. Just getting to first flight is noteworthy. At this point the aircraft is clearly a 5th generation air superiority fighter with significant strike capabilities.
This plane is designed for a very new strategic purpose. It is a command center for the Anka 3 the Kizilelma and the Akinci/TB3. It is designed like an aircraft carrier as an operational center and a command outpost. A fleet of Kizilelma will be the airdefense the Anka will be the Aweacs the Akinci/TB3 will be the Air to ground and Air to sea defense system. It is a very new strategy of air superiority. Something beyond all existing systems.
This is an impressively detailed look at the very new and game changing Turkish fifth generation fighter. Indeed, the country has come a long way in a short time and their development is to be applauded!
@@ttystikkrocks1042 Turkish stood on the shoulders of the f-35 program until they got kicked out for the s400s that turkeys bought from Russia, since you're so proud of KAAN, where is the jet engine made? how many NATO Members will purchase the Turkish KAAN with the American jet engines? You have a 4.5 generation fighter that cost a whooping 100 Million dollars,no developing countries can afford it and developed countries aren't going to deal with a jet fighter that takes 2-3 countries to produce, And yet to be tested against combatants.
I watch most TH-cam videos with one eye and one ear. When your videos go up I set aside the time to watch in an attentive manner, put in both earplugs and drink it in. Such excellent content! Unavailable anywhere else. Thanks!
There are very few foreigners who analyze my own country like this. But when talking about terrorists, please do not refer to them as a Kurdish organization. This is an insult for most Kurds living in Turkey.
@@NJ-wb1cz wtf? in this mentality, west thrace, half bulgaria, part of georgia, 1/3 iran should became part of turkey. also, in turkey, how oppressed kurds in turkey? i have tons of kurd friends and some releatives from some marriages. if they became seperatist ofc there is some consequences. which country accept seperatist with very warm welcome?
@@NJ-wb1cz You know that there is already a regional Kurdish area in northern Iraq, right? Also, as someone who has been to many regions in Turkiye, I can say that Kurds and all other ethnic groups live in equality and peace, my friend.
@@bledakaan like, restrictions on teaching and using the Kurdish language. It's not an official language, it's not taught as a native language in schools, there isn't an equal treatment of the language in Kurdish regions to the treatment of Turkish language in Turkish regions. Heck, only 10 years ago there were literally banned Kurdish names that Kurds in Turkey couldn't name their children with. And that's just one narrow facet
USA UK USSR Germany France Italy Australia Canada Belgium Japan Czechslovakia Netherlands Poland Italy Turkey The only five countries that could build aircraft in the 1930s. Oh! And Greece. Greece was one of the other five countries that could build aircraft in the 1930's too.
My Case tractor was built in Turkey and most of my tractor tires are from Turkey. My favorite pistol is from Turkey. 9mm SAR. It really is a good semi-auto pistol. No need to pay big prices. And I believe SAR has the largest small arms factory in the world. No doubt providing a lot of parts for NATO arms. But it obviously doesn't have the lobbying power to get NATO to standardize on this outstanding weapon.
Turkey has achieved remarkable success in various sectors in the recent years , be it in defence sector or civilian fields. Future belongs to them , just stay focused and avoid any kind of conflicts and disputes , be it very minor in nature.
Watching the video prepared by an expert like you, whom I value, made me happy as a Turk. In general, I have nothing to object to and you made very accurate analyses. However, there are some points I would like to add: The first prototype of an aircraft is not normally flown. However, TAI started flying both KAAN and HÜRJET aircraft since their first prototypes. Deeply adopted new technologies play a big role in this. Simulations, digital twins, etc. Normally, confidentiality is taken into account on these prototypes. This first KAAN shows too much. The reason for this is that the aircraft will undergo more changes. The second prototype will fly soon and you will see a completely different nose. Certain countries produce aircraft with different design priorities. For Türkiye, priority is given to a warplane that will cause damage if hit. We can understand this from the thick neck of the plane. This section, which is most susceptible to breakage in most other aircraft, is targeted by IIR guided missiles such as the Israeli Phyton 5. (Most of the structural weak points were strengthened.) It is a multi-mission aircraft that will start its life as a stealth-designed F-15 and can progress to the F-35 and beyond as its subsystems mature. But this will take time and will be shaped around a newly established ecosystem. I consider it highly likely that European defense and aerospace projects will benefit from the efforts of this ecosystem and the modern subsystems it will produce. In short, KAAN and HÜRJET projects will also benefit Europe. I wish you to make more videos on the Turkish defense and aerospace industry. I am especially curious about your opinions on HÜRJET, which is a candidate to be the modern interpretation of the much-missed F-5 and MiG-21, and has a reliable design and reliable technologies.
@@waynesworldofsci-tech no it wouldn't be an export. Who would the export to that wouldn't prefer either American or European or Chinese or Russian designs? India has it's own program, South Korea does, Japan does and China does and Russia does and Europe does and America does. The middle East buys American. Western Europe buys American or indigenous. Eastern Europe buys Russian. South East Asia buys American or indigenous. Literally only Africa seems possible. But they mostly can't afford fifth Gen.
@@sparkzbarca Um; no. The Russian aerospace industry has massive issues. The Chinese have huge quality problems. That leaves the Swedes. Yes, the Gripen is fifth gen without full stealth features. It’s nearly as stealthy as the SU-57. The Korean one will be good. But expensive. The US is too expensive. The Rafale isn’t as good as the Gripen currently, though it is low observable. The problem is the computer systems. If Turkiye can produce Hurjet and Kaan for a lower price than the competition, while offering relatively similar features, you have a market. Say Turkiye manages to see 50 Hurjets. That will help lower production costs for your own planes, but also help cover development. That’s what the Russians did, until their engineering went to hell. That’s why India is working on their own design. They helped fund development of the SU-57 but decided to drop out, bought Rafales, and are now working on their own designs. The country Turkiye would be competing in that market with is India.
@@waynesworldofsci-tech In fact, the genie is out of the bottle in the defense and aerospace industry. But no one has noticed this enough yet. The USA, which has extensive war experience, was the most reliable and sustainable supplier in the field of defense for a long time. As technology developed, it consolidated this position. It has now entered another period in which it will decline as technology develops. Many countries are still waiting in line for the manned F-16 fighter jet. There are significant question marks over the F-35 aircraft and these are also expressed by the countries that use this aircraft. (ALIS, signals intelligence claims, etc.) Even if the USA gave the next generation unmanned warplane for free, there are many countries that would not trust it and buy it. Seeing this, the USA wants to penetrate these markets through countries such as South Korea and Türkiye. (A change of management would instantly turn the relations between Turkey and the USA, which seem to be at odds today, into besties.) For this reason, it does not hesitate to give engines to planes like KAAN. Of course, chips and other subsystems that are difficult to produce locally. Therefore yes. It looks like it will be a very qualified export product...
This video contains more reliable information about the project than %95 of the domestic media channels. That's a sad truth about todays media, and when you correct the misinformation you generally accused by not being patriotic. As said in the video, these projects should be celebrated and criticized like their scientific counterparts. I'm glad you waited to gather clear information, it was very helpful for even we Turks. Thank you.
Turkey and the USA hace HAD to come together with mutual interests....but the trust was never complete. We don't want anyone to have our dull armament for good reason. Trust me. If we are selling F-35's....then we have vehicles thst are at least 30 years more advanced in production using black budgets. We are working on a machine that is sub orbital air breather but with L/OC support. In other words it can reach 100,000 feet and dive in launching Hypersonics and DEW weapons. We trust Turkey now more than ever. Thank you for helping Ukraine! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️
abd bizim ülkemizde darbe yapmak isteyen teröristlere destek verdi pkk terör örgütüne destek veriyor suriyede pyd terör örgütüne destek veriyor ege denizinde yunanistanı destekliyor yani bizim ortak bir çıkarımız yok artık abd ile sadece kağıt üzerinde görünüyor türkiye ona dost olmak isteyen ülke ile dost olur ukrayna bizim dost ülkemiz bayraktar tb2 bu sebeple verildi savunma yapmanız için bu konuda abd ile çıkarımız ortaktır ukrayna halkı bağımsızlık için savaşıyor tabi yaptığı en büyük hata abd ye fazla güvenmekti ama ruslar size başka bir yol bırakmadı türkiye istanbulda barış görüşmesi planlamıştı abd ve ingiltere buna karşi oldu ve savaş uzadı her ülkede bundan zarar gördü abd ve ingiltere kardeşi kardeşe öldürtür tehlikelidirler
As a Turk I was surprised with the detail and objective truth this video contains about Turkish recent history. Brilliant analysis from outside. This shows your skills, and I will trust your other comments as well. Also thanks for spreading goodwill. Subscribed.
Definitely hyperbolic at this stage. Not enough is known about the jet especially regarding its actual stealth level and situational awareness, the quantities they will be able to produce and at what (real) price are unknown also. Even if its a superior aircraft in every way to the F-35 if it cannot be made in sufficient numbers its operationally irrelevant. So all these things make a massive difference.
West can do alot of demage to them if they decide to cut them off from components and materials. They are still not self sufficient enough nor have good enough relations with "other side".... so they cant be called "power house" until they become self sufficient to much larger extent.
Thanks Gus. This was a very thorough analysis made from only from a few pictures. There are only a handful people in the world that can analyse an aircraft like you can. Lucky us
Turkey should have bought the S400 last, after they’re done reserve engineering the F35. But still, as an American, Kaan is an impressive accomplishment in a very short time span. India has been trying to design their own indigenous jet engine for decades now and counting.
There is little information about the K AAN fighter, as Turkey only has one prototype. But if it succeeds, it will also show the progress of Turkey's aviation industry.
@@highway9patrol Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.
@@steppenwolf5956OK，Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.
I personally think that the horizontal stabs moving so much is due to the fact that the pilot wanted a smooth, easy takeoff, instead of pulling up next to the ISS straight away. Those stabs are as big as an F-16's main wing. When they want to go up, you shall go up, come hell or high water!
During the U.S. ATF program, one of the prototypes tail surfaces began violently twitching while moving on the ground. It was determined that the FBW system was reacting to expansion joints in the taxiway/runway. The sensitivity of the system was tuned to reduce sensitivity. Each minor impact by first, the nose wheel and then the main gears, introduced small pitch changes that the computer interpreted as up or downdrafts that it attempted to null out by deflecting the horizontal tail to counter those forces.
I honestly don't know what gave me the impression that the kaan was a small thing as big as an F-16, but your comment prompted me to look it up and oh my LORD it's gigantic!
all systems of kaan developed in turkiye except engines (turkiye develops its own turbofan engines for kaan right now) and ejection seats.(.ejection seats is also under development indigenously.)
That F-32 sounds pretty awesome... And NOBODY is going to comment on how fabulous the Turkish test pilot's hair was AFTER he took off his helmet? Black magic, that was.
No one is laughing at what comes out of the Turkish Aviation Group nowadays.... They have had some of the best Russian and American fourth generation stuff, and have somehow turned into a 4++ Gen family.... Respect.
@@anavgeekspassion5727 But they have played the two sides against each other for favor and technology. What about threatening to buy SAMS ? I would bet there have been technology trades and visits by both to try to win contracts.
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You MUST be joking. I'll give it credit when it PERFORMS against its peers. Before that it's vaporware.
You'll hardly come across 5th gen aircraft performing against one another. Most info you're relying on when speaking of the F-22/F-35 are written on papers as well.
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@@anavgeekspassion5727 The F-22 calls the F-15 the candy in a babies hand but struggles on a dogfight against the Eurofighter under certain conditions. If the "KKKHHHHAAAAANNNN" is so good, why not put it on some joint NATO exercises going against the best that NATO has to offer? Put your money where your mouth is, it's what I say.
Fat Amy met her match you say? Well, let's just say a little hyperbole is good for a few more clicks! But beyond that, the Turks have really bore down and put together an impressive aircraft! I wish them well in their pursuit! It sounds as if they are well aware of the commitment of time and resources that will be required to see the 'KAAN' to completion and deployment. Good luck, descendants of Ataturk!
Senin beynini... Osmanlı'dan önce Atilla, Mete Han ve nicesi vardı. Bi bitmediniz! Bi de koyduğun fotoya bak. Türk tarihi bütündür Atatürk de son başbuğdur. Git sütünü iç A haber izle...
That Star Trek/Kirk "KHAN!!!" scene is immortal (if one is a Trekkie). Not to mention the "Reeech Corrr-een-thee-an Lather" guy (Ricardo Montalban). The KAAN looks impressive. I just hope neither the KAAN nor the F-35 are pressed into long-term intended purpose.
Thank you for your review. It may be the most unbiased review I've seen so far. Naturally, everyone will praise their own country's aircraft. What matters to us is its contribution to us in times of war. Otherwise, anyone can claim that their aircraft is the 10th generation, no problem. The KAAN TF-X is an aircraft made for our future, not our present. I am happy that we will no longer be dependent on anyone in the defense industry. See you in the war arena...
Loads of people know about - " KHAN", but never seen a movie itself. This scene has a life of its own, now. Ps. I didn't see it myself, but I'm familiar with the story and importance of it for fanbase
It's good video. Thank You. Meteor ramjet will not be integrated on KAAN. We are currently developing 2 missile altenatives ramjet versions (one solid fuel other liquid fuel) air to air RF guided missile as you said in the video with name Gokhan Ramjet. Also an other anti radiation air to ground ramjet solid fueled missile is under development (Akbaba) will be integrated on Kaan for future blocks.
Thank you for one of your best overviews to date. You never state what you do not know and, as an expert, some things which you DO know cannot be disclosed until manufacturers say so. Speculation is a way of losing trust. However, inference from design features is fair and what stands out to me is the amount of generating power built into the KAAN. I know that UK and Turkish engineers interact on several ventures and we have had a large Turkish population in Britain since 1918. I am pleased that Brit Turks were never treated as inferiors as in some countries and can only recall, in my 75 years of life, minor tensions when the Cyprus troubles were were in progress. I was a young schoolboy then and my grandfather, who had fought in WW1, always commented that 'an Ottoman's word is his bond' -- even though his first contact with Turkish people was being at war with them. He said that they were like Brits and Russians in codes of honour. This has been my experience too. Back to the generators: shades of Project Tempest? It is highly probable that designated KAAN planes will be drone carriers and controller and that is one explanation for the weapons bay side doors and boxy shape of the fuselage. It would nice to think that Ankara and London could resolve their engine squabbles and perhaps decisions should be with co-engineers and designers rather than politicians. My own feeling, over decades, is that British aviation was all but killed off by association with the USA and that the last straw was the F-35 scam against the only 'Tier 1' partner. BAE, unfortunately, left it perhaps too late for Turkey's liking, to divest of US access to components, even though BAE US division was mainly concerned with land weapons. Rolls Royce undoubtedly has refined thrust vector engineering, perhaps to its peak at present, and of course invented it -- hence Japan joining Tempest but when one considers how Turkey totally rebuilt the F-16s it reluctantly bought, (thus escaping OEM bullying) perhaps it can make something as good on its own.
An excellent comment. I agree with you on all points. If America calls a country a strategic partner, we learned long ago to pay attention.: ) Greetings from Turkey.
We are also waiting for a Baykar video from you. They do incredible work. They put the world's first fighter drone, Kızılelma, into mass production. They produce their own cruise missiles. They announced that they would invest in engine production. I don't even need to mention TB2. They have very innovative and different solutions.
Love the enthusiasm for the art of design! The requirements of a fighter plane create big challenges and require excellence in design and that is what excites me too!
I love turkiye bcuz of its history thats been altered by certain ppl. They have always been on the side of peasants , good chance they will stand with peasants again, thats why i have the biggest hope and wishes for turkiye success, their success is my success !
That sort of HS instability (wobble) is caused by software and incorrect compensation for latency in FBW. It's definitely not the first plane to have that problem. Kind of a series of overcorrections chasing it's tail (pun intended) in a latency loop. Rather dangerous really. But entirely fixable. Interesting design. Small central tail solves some aerodynamic & raydome considerations in a tidy fashion. With F110 engines, it's going to have some significant range limits, ~or~ payload limits. Aerodynamically it looks good. But it's quite difficult to fit everything '5th gen' inside a sleek looking airframe. I guess they're addressing that with sheer airframe size.
This and Korean projects show that the future is bright for non-traditional aircraft producers, simply because the current turbo-jet engines stuck aviation in the Mach 2 region.
"Wow, this video is a game-changer! The depth of insight into the new Turkish KH fighter is mind-blowing. It’s amazing to see how far Turkey has come in aerospace technology. Can't wait to see how this will shape the future of air combat!"
What is most important is that Turkiye achieved alot and demonstrated that it has an nationaly developped aircraft with almost all electronics and software domestically built. It is the foundation and the rest is just related to time and money. In at most 10 years, Turkiye will be domestically fully independent and it will have all relevant weaponary of great powers, submarines, air defence systems, unmanned systems in air, land and sea, combat aircrafts and aircraft carries. I bet Turkiye will be nuclear power as well. The question is if the world has 10 years. If ww3 is to happen, it has to be in next 3-5 years, otherwise US and EU will superiority military force, technology.
Only 10 minutes into this video and I have to stop and salute you! What a superb overview of intersecting geopolitical, national, and tech-industrial policy currents over the 1970s-2000s to explain the rise of TAI and, more broadly, Turkey's sovereign military-industrial base. It is not without relevance for understanding China, Russia, and India's military industries as well. Your marriage of political objectivity (neither pro- nor anti-NATO or EU propaganda) and military-technical expertise is unmatched!! And now back to the Kaan...l
I totally enjoyed that, thanks. It's the most info on the aircraft that I've seen in a single place. Also, I propose that one of the prototypes be named Ricardo Montalbán.
Kaan projesinde 15 bin mühendis çalışıyor, hintli, pakistanli, amerikalı, İngiliz vs konusunda en iyi mühendisleri seçti, emekli olanlarda Türkiye ye geldi 1000 yabancı tecrübeli mühendisimiz var. 6.nesil insansız savaş uçağı Kızılelma'yı bitiren seri üretime birkaç ay sonra başlayacak Türkiye 6.nesil insansız Kaan için portatif yapımına başladı.
I mean, yeah. Turkey started development of indigenous aircraft in the 80s, and except a few cruicial parts (like the engine) could start building advanced aircraft in 40 to 50 years, with the sanctions the us put on turkey it is kind of an amazing achievement
They WERE offered Patriot, but they also wanted the technology transferred so that they could build their own - from scratch. The US did not trust Turkey to keep the technology from Russia and China and so we said nope. That is why they went with the S-400.
Truth shall set you free… Be truthfull … technology transfer came about when some pentagon and some senators who are not Turkish and NATO unity minded for 9 years from Obama’time unilmthey bought the S400’s …..Truth will set you free do not forget that….
Arkadaslar, ben senelerdir Korede kaliyorum. Onceden (2000'li ve 2010'lu senelerin basina kadar) bize karsi sevgi ve saygi vardi, ama bu artik neredeyse yok oldu. Kisacasi, tek tarafli ask haline gelmis diyebilirim, tabii Korenin lehine. Kore, populer ve basarili olduktan sonra, popolari iyice kalkti, simardilar ve artik kendilerini Bati ve Japonya gibi ulkeler ile ayni seviyede goruyorlar. Diger halklari kucuk goruyorlar ve bu halklari disliyorlar burada. Inanmayan buyursun bir 5 sene Korede kalsin. Kore devleti yine iyi diyelim, ama halkin cogunda (tekrar ediyorum, cogunda) is yok. Gozlerinizi lutfen acin, ve bunlari daha fazla simartmayin yahu. Hem kendinize, hem burada yasayan Turklere yazik oluyor. Bize ne kadar sevgi gosteriliyorsa, ona gore saygi gostermeliyiz. Bizim bunlara gosterdigimiz ilginin 10~20%'yi biz goremiyoruz burada. Lutfen dikkat edelim.
@millennium7* Your productions are a delight because of how you merge artistry with humility. My BS detector never goes off when I take in your work. Bravo!
Turk can emerge in different era like they always do ..I'm remembering when Turk making their drone and many also doubt it ..well they make it..the drone don't seem to be advanced like game changer but it's not bad ..they achieve what they aim..
The Turkish made drones was game changer in Syria,Ukraine and Azerbaijan. Now those drones changing the game in Africa. Now they have Akinci, Kizil elma ( unmanned fighter drone) and mini b2 ( anka 3). Turkey is atleast Top 3 in drone making. Now they are making tb3 version that can land and take off from helicopter landing ships.
Congrats Turkey, very capable and underestimated country..Good choice to take matters into your own hands and go through the painful development stage, rather than begging uncle Sam for his overpriced F-35 NATO callsign RustBack. Will be following this projects, very interesting.
You do understand that's a British design. The British had developed their own stealth fighter and the USA convinced them to join the F35 program. That's why UK is the only country that can mod the F35(with Israel). Turkey collaborate with BAE and KAAN was the result
Maximum respect for the Turkish industry .such a program is a technonological risk . As a first fighter built ex the indian programs Marut and Tejas Marut was a semi failure be cause of the engines..two similar projects of 5 th generation aircraft to follow in the next years the south korean KF 21 BORAMAE and the indian programAMCA
It would appear that the rudders and vertical stabilizers were underestimated, but that is (or at least used to be) a common "error" in the aicraft industry as a whole. Other than that, there is the possibility that the flaps could instead be flaperons, used when the ailerons+tails are not enough. There is a world of possibilities there alone. As always, wonderful, beautiful video.
sanctions breed independence, such was the case in history with countries such as Taiwan, Israel, South Africa and even Iran, each were forced to home develop their alternatives in their military aircraft when faced with sanctions
The Venom 30 mm gun was designed by AEI in the UK. Sadly AEI were bought by CANIK last year. Those mass figures must mean that Kaan will have a relatively low fuel load. A hugely impressive achievement though.
@1:45 the tail wobble is undamped movement common with this style of aircraft. The F35 actually bounces at this point in rotation because the wobble is dampened out.
Türkiye will not buy F35. We know that the F-16s will not be delivered. You will also have a delivery problem with F110 engines. Now the choice of US air elements is over for us. There is not even a little bit of confidence left. You lost the oily customer because of the Armenian and Greek lobby congressmen. Thank you for our benefit
Awesome video, you Turkish Shrill! But seriously the amount of effort you put into researching and producing videos is very admirable. It is not a flood of misleading numbers and stats. No political or virtue signaling. Good context and details. All very relevant.
In a region with a neighbor which threatens everybody with nuclear annihilation while not acknowledging its nuclear power status Turkey has to be strong not only by developing its own fighter jets and its own missile defense systems but also consider the same approach that threatening neighbor has been taking for decades. As the Turkish saying goes: “Show the (profile of) the stick from under the garment”.
An alternate to your classic "Kaaaaaaan!!!!!!" opening - th-cam.com/video/UwPqAHNv2HE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aUkJs6Xsv8TlQJgb Every time I read a comment about the Kaan, and its weapons/sensor suite being inferior to other Western equipment, I am reminded of the time just before WW2 started and the Japanese became involved. Every Western Power just poo-pooed the Japanese Military and their equipment as being inferior copies of Superior Western Equipment. Then Pearl Harbor happened, and everyone was "Surprised" at the quality, and lethality of Japanese military equipment.
But its objectively correct to say that these Gen 1 sensors/weapons are inferior to Western equipment, which has been around for many generations and multiple rounds of lessons learned and applying real world data into their upgrades and design. Its silly to assume that some of the first sensors/weapons systems the Turks ever created would be better at the first try. Also, "Superior Western" powers didn't say the Japanese "equipment as being inferior copies of Superior Western Equipment"... the Russians learned that the hard way a few decades before that.
As a Turk, I thought the video was clickbait for Turk viewers before watching it.
Then I watched the whole video. This is a masterpiece that tells all of Turkish air defense history. You have no information only KAAN, also you are well-informed about details of parts. I appreciate!
I reckon they used their involvement in the JSF program to develop the aircraft, after getting kicked out of the program due to the purchase of one of those S-300, S-400, or S-XXX whatever Russian-designed air defense radar systems.
@@tomsmith6513 it's a little more than that; no European nation (despite participation in the same program) has a domestically produced 5th gen aircraft that's had its maiden flight
@@tomsmith6513s-400 and it's an air defense system guess the west don't want Turkiey to defend itself 🤷
every defence system is a spy system for the country who developed it. it gathers and sends a LOT of data back to the Motherland.
5th Gen is an US defence marketing made up thing. The defence systems aren't evaluated like that even in the US. That's why the F22 are scrapped and the F15 built with the latest upgrades.
I personally have a deep respect for the Turkish mind set some really brilliant people in Country. You too Ryan.
@nahitakyel
U$A is first in UAV technology.
@nahitakyel put away the hammer kind sir
We are allied are we not?
A real nice bit of kit for defending one’s country so let’s all hope it never has to be used.
@@peterweller8583 peekaboo's response was to your incorrect statement that Turkey is #1 in UAV technology. The US has had combat UAV's way before Turkey built their first one. The MQ9 Reaper and a couple of others secret UAVs they have developed recently are more advanced than anything Turkey has. Germany and France also have very advanced military UAV's, most of which have been kept a secret. So it has nothing to do with alliances that you speak of. He is disputing your false statement. Turkey's UAV's just got more exposure recently because they were used in Azerbaijan in the war with Armenia, and in the Ukraine against Russia, so the world got to see what armed UAVs can do in the battefield which happened to be made in Turkey. You cannot seriously compare a $2M Bayraktar TB2 to a $32M Reaper.
BTW, all the Turkish drones were shot down in Ukraine after the first couple of months, and several were shut down in Libya before that by decades old anti-aircraft weapons.
@@vtecharrys.6981 What, that cabbage guy? Are you jealous? You make up a lot of excuses and a lot of false stories!!
@@vtecharrys.6981 Was, dieser Kohlkopf? Bist du eifersüchtig? Du erfindest viele Ausreden und viele falsche Geschichten!!
Guys "Khan" is also from central asia, it means a kind of "king" it is written "Han"
Kaan is also kind of a derivative from Han, "Khagan" means the king of the kings.
KAAN = THE KING OF THE KINGS
🇹🇷🇦🇿😎
Kaan means ear 👂
In Hindi
yep example Imran Khan, Ghenghis Khan etc. In Pakistan, khaandaan is a tribe and khan is the leader of the tribe.
bilmediğin konuda konuşma... Han ın başında ki H harfi gırtlaktan HIRILTILI söylenir yani KHAN olarak söylenir o yüzden KAĞAN KAHAN KHAN gibi DUYULUR.. Aslı HAN dır. ama yazılışı okunuşa uydurursan KHAN dır.
Turkish is coming from Central Asia as well. But khan, kaan and hakan have different meanings in details. Khan (han) is king, kaan is king of kings like emperor, hakan is conquering han, when big enough he will be kaan. There also other noble class like bey(beg) like lords, yabgu like prince of princedoms.
형제의 나라 튀르키예를 응원 합니다. frome Korea
Thanks to Korea.
You did it in the past with the black panter tank....
In Turkiye known as the Altay Tank.
Awesome cooperation.
🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Love our Korean Brothers 🇹🇷❤️🇰🇷
🇰🇷🇹🇷😊
zzzzzzz buzz 😂
As an American, I'm already more impressed by Turkey's efforts than by the Chinese. The KAAN is an extremely ambitious goal, and I wish Turkey the best of success!
Hilarious.
Kaan adopted both F-22 and F-35 designs .
How much of the planes parts are indigenous. 100% if not, its worthless as its not sovereign.
@@erwin5760 Remember , the turks build the landing gear for the F35 . So F35 worthless ?
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 yes and a little from the super hornet.
@@erwin5760 all of it
For a country that is building its first fighter aircraft any level achieved better than its current fighter fleet of F16 s is a success.
Ah yes, the 50 Year old F16 finally has competition 😅
@@babocheeyou can't read apparently because he said for a country building it's first fighter. First was the keyword.
@@babochee man your eyes are not eying
@@chewbacca3269ya first and useless
Turkey chicken kabab😂😂😂 the country with backward ideology
As an American, i was expecting chinese military industry to surprize us with cutting edge technologies and def. not the turks. I am impressed and tbh kizilelma has am amazing design. Keep it going turks!!!
Sagol yavrum edeceğiz
@@istanbul...pendikolm burda gaza geliyorsunuz da . Jet motoru ucagi tasiyamiyor yuksek hizlarda.
thanx
For a middle power, the achievements of the Turkish Aerospace Industry is a marvel to behold. So much progress in many areas in such a short span of time that rivals the great powers. KAAN can only get better from here.
An excellent analysis Gus.
well, yes, if they decide to make more planes and sell them.
I think you meant "Things KAAN only get better" 😂
@davidhughes4089 "Boo this man" *Boooo* 😂
And they have the right strategic stance: develop independent capabilities to be independent from other actors on the world stage. Europe MUST shift its armaments stance in the same way. It has nothing to do with being a 'bad ally' if one develop its own weapon systems. We see it currently what it means if weapon systems have 'strings attached' by their country of origin. And since more and more weapon systems rely heavily on programs and electronic interactions ... it is irresponsible and dangerous to accept some kind of 'back door' in the systems that allows another actor to compromise them.
@nahitakyel you think Turks being first in UAV technology is unfortunate? What would be the fortunate senario in your head?
we have a saying in Turkish. bad landlord makes you a house owner.
and surprisingly, every landlord in Turkey is bad and we can't own houses.
I want to remind the influence of Turkey from Imperial times. Turkey has direct political influence from North Africa to Middle east, from Balkans to Caucausus, From Central Asia to South Asia.
Even when Turkey build a standart featured weapon with reasonable price many countries would prefer to buy it from Turkey due to historical connections and mutual interests. Because Turkey wouldn't impose sanctions to those countries like western manufacturers do.
So if Kaan will successfully enter the mass production not only Azerbaijan and Pakistan will buy it. Central Asian countries, Arabic Gulf Countries, North African countries would buy it too. And more production means price per unit will be cheaper.
That would make the project more sustainable and price competetive than western alternatives.
No one in Balkan has any political influence or brotherly relationship with Turkey. We all hate it. We are not middle east or North Africa. Only albanians are somewhat tied cause they are muslims...
They murdered their way out of Central Asia about 150 years ago, okay that's where they come from.
It's a fourth-generation motor with a 5th generation body believe me when I tell you that the thing is basically junk 🤣
@@JosephFactsOnly It is not a junk. It is a twin engine advanced 4 generation jet. 4,5 generation. It has stealth geometry and internal weapon base.. Even without 5th generation engine it is more stealthy than Rafale or Typhoon. It has new technology (gaN) AESA radar. It has all kinds of indigenous ammunition from air to aşr missiles to crıuise missiles even gliding bombs. So most of the countries in the world don't have jets in such standarts. It is not equal to f35 yet. But when 5th generation engine will be ready it will be more capable than f35 in next 10 years. But probably USA will have 6th generation jets untill that time.
@@darkprofile I read all the specifications on the KAAN,the Turkish was supposed to be in full development on f-35 lightning but they got KICKED out because they wanted the s400 from Russia instead🤣
Too bad your NATO buddy's stabbed you in the back.
ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS EACH,
They are Junk as a NATO member, nobody in NATO is going to buy them 🤣
MiG 29 the 4.5 generation fighter is 22-25 million is a better bet for developing countries with a tight budget.
The Turkish engineers and material scientists must maintain momentum in order to keep the Kaan competitive. The design, while relatively conventional for a fifth generation planform, is brilliant. I can’t wait as the Kaan continues to develop and mature into a world class fighter. I agree with you wholeheartedly - the indigenous chip manufacturing must continue to advance.
O zaten yapıldı çip
Pa vec je napredovao domena F35 i nekih Kineskih J22 ruskih koji su vec zastarili
It uses all Turkish chips.
it is going to have crazy metamaterials and fiber optic wires for internal data wires. It will be a 5.5 gen fighter.
I like how you don't trash other countries technology and just look at things through more objective lens. I became a subcriber almost 2 years ago when you said (and I'm paraphrasing) "brilliant minds are everywhere not only in western countries" and I think this video is a really good example of that. I really enjoy your videos because I feel I'm learning useful things and not just consuming overrated propaganda, just admiration for human achievment. Keep the good work!
Turkey is a NATO member, though, and as such, a Western country
@@Filanca1 I know, but is not my point though.
@@jeffreysojo4187 even if it wasn't your point, it's still a mistake worth correcting. Also, the non-westrern brilliant minds often times simply move to the west because of better life conditions
@@gior987Turkey needs to get rid of its dictator and become a free democracy again.
In my opinion the only real problem the non-western brilliant minds have is in some cases a lack of funding. Some countries just arren't as willing to spend themselves into unsurmountable debt as others.
Hats off to Türkiye for this one. It’s quite a technological leap forward they’ve managed to pull off.
Bravo! Wise underlying of the great Turkish efforts to be independent and to develop their local economy.
Finally an update on TAI's biggest project. Thanks mate!
As a northern European.... I'm quite impressed with the plane... getting a project of this magnitude done is certainly not easy
buna mecburuz ukrayna savaşı suriye iç savaşı ırakın işgali israilın ortadoğuda yaptığı soykırım ve bir çok tehdit bizi bu teknolojiye sahip olmamızı gerektiriyor başarılı olacağız miili gemiler uçak gemileri deniz altılar insansız savaş uçakları dronelar ve savaş uçağı ve daha bir çok silaha ihtiyacımız var bağımsızlık ve tehditlere karşı halkımızın savunması için başaracağız
What? So this is a TAI Fighter named KAAN?
Star Wars meets Star Trek.
Genius absolutely genius
You can't tell me the guy responsible for the naming didn't slip in those reference on purpose.
Under-rated comment 😀
Erdogan himself picked the name. It's highly unlikely that he is a Star Trek fan lmao
@@NomadFierceno erdogan didnt named ,other partner party leader bahceli gave the name
İsmi Türkçe. Kaan bir erkek ismidir. Anlamı kralların kralıdır.
Much respect for the Turkish people, and culture, very intelligent and capable 😎
The project has clearly been a full success at this point. Just getting to first flight is noteworthy. At this point the aircraft is clearly a 5th generation air superiority fighter with significant strike capabilities.
Best wishes towards TAI for the successful development of this aircraft. It is truly a great achievement.
This plane is designed for a very new strategic purpose. It is a command center for the Anka 3 the Kizilelma and the Akinci/TB3.
It is designed like an aircraft carrier as an operational center and a command outpost. A fleet of Kizilelma will be the airdefense the Anka will be the Aweacs the Akinci/TB3 will be the Air to ground and Air to sea defense system. It is a very new strategy of air superiority. Something beyond all existing systems.
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Masha Allah Tabaraka Allah.
May Allah make it beneficial for the Ummah
This is an impressively detailed look at the very new and game changing Turkish fifth generation fighter. Indeed, the country has come a long way in a short time and their development is to be applauded!
@@ttystikkrocks1042 that thing is what you call close,but no cigar, 4.5 generation fighter by.5
@@JosephFactsOnly it never pays to underestimate the capabilities of your adversaries, just as it doesn't pay to overestimate your own.
@@ttystikkrocks1042 know your enemy
and know yourself.
Sun Tzu stratagem.
You are feeling emotional because your product is inferior.
@@ttystikkrocks1042 Turkish stood on the shoulders of the f-35 program until they got kicked out for the s400s that turkeys bought from Russia, since you're so proud of KAAN, where is the jet engine made? how many NATO Members will purchase the Turkish KAAN with the American jet engines? You have a 4.5 generation fighter that cost a whooping 100 Million dollars,no developing countries can afford it and developed countries aren't going to deal with a jet fighter that takes 2-3 countries to produce,
And yet to be tested against combatants.
@@JosephFactsOnly I think it will perform very well for its intended use.
Best informative video I have seen about Kaan. Thank you! 🇹🇷
Thank you to you!
Great storytelling of a great story! Very proud of Turkey! Congratulations!
I watch most TH-cam videos with one eye and one ear. When your videos go up I set aside the time to watch in an attentive manner, put in both earplugs and drink it in. Such excellent content! Unavailable anywhere else. Thanks!
There are very few foreigners who analyze my own country like this. But when talking about terrorists, please do not refer to them as a Kurdish organization. This is an insult for most Kurds living in Turkey.
Kurds deserve to have their own country instead of being constantly oppressed by Turkey and Syria on their homeland
@@NJ-wb1cz wtf? in this mentality, west thrace, half bulgaria, part of georgia, 1/3 iran should became part of turkey. also, in turkey, how oppressed kurds in turkey? i have tons of kurd friends and some releatives from some marriages. if they became seperatist ofc there is some consequences. which country accept seperatist with very warm welcome?
@@NJ-wb1cz You know that there is already a regional Kurdish area in northern Iraq, right? Also, as someone who has been to many regions in Turkiye, I can say that Kurds and all other ethnic groups live in equality and peace, my friend.
@@NJ-wb1cz How are Kurds opressed in Türkiye ? I would like to know this as a Kurdish living in my country. İt seems that you know more than me :).
@@bledakaan like, restrictions on teaching and using the Kurdish language. It's not an official language, it's not taught as a native language in schools, there isn't an equal treatment of the language in Kurdish regions to the treatment of Turkish language in Turkish regions. Heck, only 10 years ago there were literally banned Kurdish names that Kurds in Turkey couldn't name their children with. And that's just one narrow facet
Turkey was one of the 5 nations that had the capabilities to build its own planes in 1930s. We are getting back there.
güzel bir tespit.
USA
UK
USSR
Germany
France
Italy
Australia
Canada
Belgium
Japan
Czechslovakia
Netherlands
Poland
Italy
Turkey
The only five countries that could build aircraft in the 1930s.
Oh!
And Greece.
Greece was one of the other five countries that could build aircraft in the 1930's too.
My Case tractor was built in Turkey and most of my tractor tires are from Turkey. My favorite pistol is from Turkey. 9mm SAR. It really is a good semi-auto pistol. No need to pay big prices. And I believe SAR has the largest small arms factory in the world. No doubt providing a lot of parts for NATO arms. But it obviously doesn't have the lobbying power to get NATO to standardize on this outstanding weapon.
The silliest comment I've seen today. But it's early...
@@tigerpjm Not seeing New Zealand on that list. A case that arguably preceded the Wright Brothers.
I'm glad to see an unbiased perspective. No politics, no religion, no bs, just facts. Thank you subscribed.
Turkey has achieved remarkable success in various sectors in the recent years , be it in defence sector or civilian fields. Future belongs to them , just stay focused and avoid any kind of conflicts and disputes , be it very minor in nature.
Watching the video prepared by an expert like you, whom I value, made me happy as a Turk. In general, I have nothing to object to and you made very accurate analyses. However, there are some points I would like to add:
The first prototype of an aircraft is not normally flown. However, TAI started flying both KAAN and HÜRJET aircraft since their first prototypes. Deeply adopted new technologies play a big role in this. Simulations, digital twins, etc.
Normally, confidentiality is taken into account on these prototypes. This first KAAN shows too much. The reason for this is that the aircraft will undergo more changes. The second prototype will fly soon and you will see a completely different nose.
Certain countries produce aircraft with different design priorities. For Türkiye, priority is given to a warplane that will cause damage if hit. We can understand this from the thick neck of the plane. This section, which is most susceptible to breakage in most other aircraft, is targeted by IIR guided missiles such as the Israeli Phyton 5. (Most of the structural weak points were strengthened.)
It is a multi-mission aircraft that will start its life as a stealth-designed F-15 and can progress to the F-35 and beyond as its subsystems mature. But this will take time and will be shaped around a newly established ecosystem. I consider it highly likely that European defense and aerospace projects will benefit from the efforts of this ecosystem and the modern subsystems it will produce. In short, KAAN and HÜRJET projects will also benefit Europe.
I wish you to make more videos on the Turkish defense and aerospace industry. I am especially curious about your opinions on HÜRJET, which is a candidate to be the modern interpretation of the much-missed F-5 and MiG-21, and has a reliable design and reliable technologies.
Turkiye is doing some neat stuff. This could become a nice export product line.
@@waynesworldofsci-tech no it wouldn't be an export.
Who would the export to that wouldn't prefer either American or European or Chinese or Russian designs?
India has it's own program, South Korea does, Japan does and China does and Russia does and Europe does and America does.
The middle East buys American.
Western Europe buys American or indigenous. Eastern Europe buys Russian.
South East Asia buys American or indigenous.
Literally only Africa seems possible. But they mostly can't afford fifth Gen.
@@sparkzbarca
Um; no. The Russian aerospace industry has massive issues. The Chinese have huge quality problems.
That leaves the Swedes. Yes, the Gripen is fifth gen without full stealth features. It’s nearly as stealthy as the SU-57.
The Korean one will be good. But expensive.
The US is too expensive.
The Rafale isn’t as good as the Gripen currently, though it is low observable. The problem is the computer systems.
If Turkiye can produce Hurjet and Kaan for a lower price than the competition, while offering relatively similar features, you have a market.
Say Turkiye manages to see 50 Hurjets. That will help lower production costs for your own planes, but also help cover development.
That’s what the Russians did, until their engineering went to hell. That’s why India is working on their own design. They helped fund development of the SU-57 but decided to drop out, bought Rafales, and are now working on their own designs.
The country Turkiye would be competing in that market with is India.
@@waynesworldofsci-tech In fact, the genie is out of the bottle in the defense and aerospace industry. But no one has noticed this enough yet. The USA, which has extensive war experience, was the most reliable and sustainable supplier in the field of defense for a long time. As technology developed, it consolidated this position. It has now entered another period in which it will decline as technology develops. Many countries are still waiting in line for the manned F-16 fighter jet. There are significant question marks over the F-35 aircraft and these are also expressed by the countries that use this aircraft. (ALIS, signals intelligence claims, etc.) Even if the USA gave the next generation unmanned warplane for free, there are many countries that would not trust it and buy it. Seeing this, the USA wants to penetrate these markets through countries such as South Korea and Türkiye. (A change of management would instantly turn the relations between Turkey and the USA, which seem to be at odds today, into besties.) For this reason, it does not hesitate to give engines to planes like KAAN. Of course, chips and other subsystems that are difficult to produce locally. Therefore yes. It looks like it will be a very qualified export product...
@@aybarsmericpure delusion lol
This video contains more reliable information about the project than %95 of the domestic media channels. That's a sad truth about todays media, and when you correct the misinformation you generally accused by not being patriotic. As said in the video, these projects should be celebrated and criticized like their scientific counterparts. I'm glad you waited to gather clear information, it was very helpful for even we Turks. Thank you.
Muhalif basının Kaan ın uçtuğunu görmediğini biliyorsun değil mi?Vatansever mi oluyorlar, şimdi?
@@musakarakaya2483 yazdığımı tekrar oku lütfen
@@musakarakaya2483 yazdığımı tekrar oku lütfen, muhalefet ya da iktidarla ilgili hiçbir şey söylemedim
@@berkekaan9118 Sen de haklısın,ben de hakılıyım.
@@musakarakaya2483ooo yalaaakk.alert 🚨🚨🚨🚨😂😂
Turkey and the USA hace HAD to come together with mutual interests....but the trust was never complete. We don't want anyone to have our dull armament for good reason.
Trust me. If we are selling F-35's....then we have vehicles thst are at least 30 years more advanced in production using black budgets. We are working on a machine that is sub orbital air breather but with L/OC support. In other words it can reach 100,000 feet and dive in launching Hypersonics and DEW weapons.
We trust Turkey now more than ever. Thank you for helping Ukraine!
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️
abd bizim ülkemizde darbe yapmak isteyen teröristlere destek verdi pkk terör örgütüne destek veriyor suriyede pyd terör örgütüne destek veriyor ege denizinde yunanistanı destekliyor yani bizim ortak bir çıkarımız yok artık abd ile sadece kağıt üzerinde görünüyor türkiye ona dost olmak isteyen ülke ile dost olur ukrayna bizim dost ülkemiz bayraktar tb2 bu sebeple verildi savunma yapmanız için bu konuda abd ile çıkarımız ortaktır ukrayna halkı bağımsızlık için savaşıyor tabi yaptığı en büyük hata abd ye fazla güvenmekti ama ruslar size başka bir yol bırakmadı türkiye istanbulda barış görüşmesi planlamıştı abd ve ingiltere buna karşi oldu ve savaş uzadı her ülkede bundan zarar gördü abd ve ingiltere kardeşi kardeşe öldürtür tehlikelidirler
As a Turk I was surprised with the detail and objective truth this video contains about Turkish recent history. Brilliant analysis from outside. This shows your skills, and I will trust your other comments as well. Also thanks for spreading goodwill. Subscribed.
Lots of love and respect for Turkish brothers ❤❤❤from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Yeah, pretty sure it didn’t meet its “match”. A little hyperbole but the Turks are becoming a power house. I wish them good luck in their programs.
The Turks need first to survive economic to build this plane.
Definitely hyperbolic at this stage. Not enough is known about the jet especially regarding its actual stealth level and situational awareness, the quantities they will be able to produce and at what (real) price are unknown also. Even if its a superior aircraft in every way to the F-35 if it cannot be made in sufficient numbers its operationally irrelevant.
So all these things make a massive difference.
Lmao there is only two kinds of stealth low observable and not. Rcs under a meter squared is fine. Just ask the kh 69
West can do alot of demage to them if they decide to cut them off from components and materials. They are still not self sufficient enough nor have good enough relations with "other side".... so they cant be called "power house" until they become self sufficient to much larger extent.
@@blazinchaliceI would have clicked if it literally only said "KAAN video"
Congratulations to Türkiye! I hope this project goes well, and quickly.
The most comprehensive and unbiased review I have seen so far. Thank you.
Oh come on surely it's biased
@@qedcharlie no
Turks are doing all these with their own sources not stealing other countries’ sources. Best of luck to Turks
Wow, I am impressed..... this is quite an adventure - and with great spin-off...!Thanks for an educative and amusing video!
The only video I was interested in to watch about Kaan is finally out and it did not disappoint
Thanks Gus. This was a very thorough analysis made from only from a few pictures. There are only a handful people in the world that can analyse an aircraft like you can. Lucky us
There are plenty, just not on YT
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Met it's match ?
Turkey should have bought the S400 last, after they’re done reserve engineering the F35. But still, as an American, Kaan is an impressive accomplishment in a very short time span. India has been trying to design their own indigenous jet engine for decades now and counting.
excellent informative video, thanks a lot. congratulations Türkiye, it requires tons of balls to even launch this challenge.
There is little information about the K AAN fighter, as Turkey only has one prototype. But if it succeeds, it will also show the progress of Turkey's aviation industry.
2 prototype. 1 of them has never flight. They are using for stress and ground tests. ironbird test.
8 prototyps are planned for all kind of tests,
@@highway9patrol Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.
@@steppenwolf5956OK，Based on China's experience in developing the FC31 J20, it will take several years for Turkey's fighter jet to enter service. At the fastest, it may take about 5 years.
@@你看个锤子你看 yes but it will enter service in 2028. And engines in 2030
I personally think that the horizontal stabs moving so much is due to the fact that the pilot wanted a smooth, easy takeoff, instead of pulling up next to the ISS straight away.
Those stabs are as big as an F-16's main wing. When they want to go up, you shall go up, come hell or high water!
During the U.S. ATF program, one of the prototypes tail surfaces began violently twitching while moving on the ground. It was determined that the FBW system was reacting to expansion joints in the taxiway/runway. The sensitivity of the system was tuned to reduce sensitivity.
Each minor impact by first, the nose wheel and then the main gears, introduced small pitch changes that the computer interpreted as up or downdrafts that it attempted to null out by deflecting the horizontal tail to counter those forces.
No it was unintended. And was fixed in 2nd flight
The plane is going to look much different. Smaller aswell. It's being produced. 6 more prototypes.
I honestly don't know what gave me the impression that the kaan was a small thing as big as an F-16, but your comment prompted me to look it up and oh my LORD it's gigantic!
@@SmoochyRoo time to 'add' miniaturization and weight savings
Thank you Gus. Superb explication and explanation, as always.
all systems of kaan developed in turkiye except engines (turkiye develops its own turbofan engines for kaan right now) and ejection seats.(.ejection seats is also under development indigenously.)
That F-32 sounds pretty awesome...
And NOBODY is going to comment on how fabulous the Turkish test pilot's hair was AFTER he took off his helmet? Black magic, that was.
No one is laughing at what comes out of the Turkish Aviation Group nowadays.... They have had some of the best Russian and American fourth generation stuff, and have somehow turned into a 4++ Gen family.... Respect.
Turkey never operated an aircraft of Russian origin. TurAF is strongly against it even today.
@@anavgeekspassion5727 But they have played the two sides against each other for favor and technology. What about threatening to buy SAMS ? I would bet there have been technology trades and visits by both to try to win contracts.
You MUST be joking. I'll give it credit when it PERFORMS against its peers. Before that it's vaporware.
You'll hardly come across 5th gen aircraft performing against one another. Most info you're relying on when speaking of the F-22/F-35 are written on papers as well.
@@anavgeekspassion5727 The F-22 calls the F-15 the candy in a babies hand but struggles on a dogfight against the Eurofighter under certain conditions. If the "KKKHHHHAAAAANNNN" is so good, why not put it on some joint NATO exercises going against the best that NATO has to offer? Put your money where your mouth is, it's what I say.
Completely agree with your thoughts on celebrating the design and production of these combat aircraft. Beautiful. great videos too.
We would like to hear more about Turkish aerospace industry, UAV s and missiles.
Fat Amy met her match you say? Well, let's just say a little hyperbole is good for a few more clicks!
But beyond that, the Turks have really bore down and put together an impressive aircraft! I wish them well in their pursuit! It sounds as if they are well aware of the commitment of time and resources that will be required to see the 'KAAN' to completion and deployment. Good luck, descendants of Ataturk!
Respect..
Biz osmanlı torunuyuz.
Atatürk'de Osmanlinin torunu. Bizim tarihimiz 100 sene önce başlamadı😉
Senin beynini... Osmanlı'dan önce Atilla, Mete Han ve nicesi vardı. Bi bitmediniz! Bi de koyduğun fotoya bak.
Türk tarihi bütündür Atatürk de son başbuğdur. Git sütünü iç A haber izle...
Turks were involved at the Fat Amy and builded all mid body parts for it.
That Star Trek/Kirk "KHAN!!!" scene is immortal (if one is a Trekkie). Not to mention the "Reeech Corrr-een-thee-an Lather" guy (Ricardo Montalban).
The KAAN looks impressive. I just hope neither the KAAN nor the F-35 are pressed into long-term intended purpose.
Almost forgot that YT encourages hyperbolic thumbnails till I saw this one.
Amen.
The latter quote has been permanently co-opted by Ryan Reynolds.
Thank you for your review. It may be the most unbiased review I've seen so far. Naturally, everyone will praise their own country's aircraft. What matters to us is its contribution to us in times of war. Otherwise, anyone can claim that their aircraft is the 10th generation, no problem. The KAAN TF-X is an aircraft made for our future, not our present. I am happy that we will no longer be dependent on anyone in the defense industry. See you in the war arena...
Very thorough, educated and informative synopsis as always. The promise at the start is definitely kept.
I'm 24. The first thing I thought of when I heard the name was the Wrath of Khan :)
I'm 40 and the first thing I thought of was the Wrath of Khan but the Family Guy cutaway version "edited for goats".
You are correct. Kaan and Khan are the same word of Turkic origin. One wrotten in Turkish, other in English
"They put creatures in our bodies."
Loads of people know about - " KHAN", but never seen a movie itself.
This scene has a life of its own, now.
Ps. I didn't see it myself, but I'm familiar with the story and importance of it for fanbase
Im 53 and i was thinking of your mom.. Hows she doing these days?
It's good video. Thank You.
Meteor ramjet will not be integrated on KAAN. We are currently developing 2 missile altenatives ramjet versions (one solid fuel other liquid fuel) air to air RF guided missile as you said in the video with name Gokhan Ramjet. Also an other anti radiation air to ground ramjet solid fueled missile is under development (Akbaba) will be integrated on Kaan for future blocks.
Thank you for one of your best overviews to date. You never state what you do not know and, as an expert, some things which you DO know cannot be disclosed until manufacturers say so. Speculation is a way of losing trust. However, inference from design features is fair and what stands out to me is the amount of generating power built into the KAAN.
I know that UK and Turkish engineers interact on several ventures and we have had a large Turkish population in Britain since 1918. I am pleased that Brit Turks were never treated as inferiors as in some countries and can only recall, in my 75 years of life, minor tensions when the Cyprus troubles were were in progress. I was a young schoolboy then and my grandfather, who had fought in WW1, always commented that 'an Ottoman's word is his bond' -- even though his first contact with Turkish people was being at war with them. He said that they were like Brits and Russians in codes of honour. This has been my experience too.
Back to the generators: shades of Project Tempest? It is highly probable that designated KAAN planes will be drone carriers and controller and that is one explanation for the weapons bay side doors and boxy shape of the fuselage.
It would nice to think that Ankara and London could resolve their engine squabbles and perhaps decisions should be with co-engineers and designers rather than politicians. My own feeling, over decades, is that British aviation was all but killed off by association with the USA and that the last straw was the F-35 scam against the only 'Tier 1' partner. BAE, unfortunately, left it perhaps too late for Turkey's liking, to divest of US access to components, even though BAE US division was mainly concerned with land weapons.
Rolls Royce undoubtedly has refined thrust vector engineering, perhaps to its peak at present, and of course invented it -- hence Japan joining Tempest but when one considers how Turkey totally rebuilt the F-16s it reluctantly bought, (thus escaping OEM bullying) perhaps it can make something as good on its own.
An excellent comment. I agree with you on all points. If America calls a country a strategic partner, we learned long ago to pay attention.: )
Greetings from Turkey.
We are also waiting for a Baykar video from you. They do incredible work. They put the world's first fighter drone, Kızılelma, into mass production. They produce their own cruise missiles. They announced that they would invest in engine production. I don't even need to mention TB2. They have very innovative and different solutions.
Kızılelma seri üretimde değil,tb2 yenilikçi bir tasarım veya mühendislik sunmuyor.Fazlaca baykar hayranlığı.
@@Farwolldoru ama tb2 iyi fiyat performans
Love the enthusiasm for the art of design! The requirements of a fighter plane create big challenges and require excellence in design and that is what excites me too!
I love turkiye bcuz of its history thats been altered by certain ppl.
They have always been on the side of peasants , good chance they will stand with peasants again, thats why i have the biggest hope and wishes for turkiye success, their success is my success !
That sort of HS instability (wobble) is caused by software and incorrect compensation for latency in FBW. It's definitely not the first plane to have that problem.
Kind of a series of overcorrections chasing it's tail (pun intended) in a latency loop.
Rather dangerous really. But entirely fixable.
Interesting design. Small central tail solves some aerodynamic & raydome considerations in a tidy fashion.
With F110 engines, it's going to have some significant range limits, ~or~ payload limits. Aerodynamically it looks good. But it's quite difficult to fit everything '5th gen' inside a sleek looking airframe. I guess they're addressing that with sheer airframe size.
Nice comment. I think they already mostly fixed the wobble at the second flight.
Thank you for your honest and politically neutral analysis.
Best regards from Turkey. 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
This and Korean projects show that the future is bright for non-traditional aircraft producers, simply because the current turbo-jet engines stuck aviation in the Mach 2 region.
"Wow, this video is a game-changer! The depth of insight into the new Turkish KH fighter is mind-blowing. It’s amazing to see how far Turkey has come in aerospace technology. Can't wait to see how this will shape the future of air combat!"
What is most important is that Turkiye achieved alot and demonstrated that it has an nationaly developped aircraft with almost all electronics and software domestically built. It is the foundation and the rest is just related to time and money. In at most 10 years, Turkiye will be domestically fully independent and it will have all relevant weaponary of great powers, submarines, air defence systems, unmanned systems in air, land and sea, combat aircrafts and aircraft carries. I bet Turkiye will be nuclear power as well. The question is if the world has 10 years. If ww3 is to happen, it has to be in next 3-5 years, otherwise US and EU will superiority military force, technology.
Full agreed. Judging by aircraft production and orders in the world, the third war may break out between 2030-2037.
Can't be everywhere at once.
Only 10 minutes into this video and I have to stop and salute you! What a superb overview of intersecting geopolitical, national, and tech-industrial policy currents over the 1970s-2000s to explain the rise of TAI and, more broadly, Turkey's sovereign military-industrial base. It is not without relevance for understanding China, Russia, and India's military industries as well. Your marriage of political objectivity (neither pro- nor anti-NATO or EU propaganda) and military-technical expertise is unmatched!! And now back to the Kaan...l
I totally enjoyed that, thanks. It's the most info on the aircraft that I've seen in a single place. Also, I propose that one of the prototypes be named Ricardo Montalbán.
Kaan is the Future of many Air forces
Kaan projesinde 15 bin mühendis çalışıyor, hintli, pakistanli, amerikalı, İngiliz vs konusunda en iyi mühendisleri seçti, emekli olanlarda Türkiye ye geldi 1000 yabancı tecrübeli mühendisimiz var. 6.nesil insansız savaş uçağı Kızılelma'yı bitiren seri üretime birkaç ay sonra başlayacak Türkiye 6.nesil insansız Kaan için portatif yapımına başladı.
Considering the first F22 Raptor flight was in 1997, Turkey isn't doing too bad.
cope harder
@@masterp401 😌
I mean, yeah. Turkey started development of indigenous aircraft in the 80s, and except a few cruicial parts (like the engine) could start building advanced aircraft in 40 to 50 years, with the sanctions the us put on turkey it is kind of an amazing achievement
This probably is the most and the best informative video on KAAN. Thank you for this great work. ✨
Why did you not mention the Turks being denied Patriot systems, ie the reason they opted for the S400 system instead?
Because USA writed whatever narrative it wants to
They WERE offered Patriot, but they also wanted the technology transferred so that they could build their own - from scratch. The US did not trust Turkey to keep the technology from Russia and China and so we said nope. That is why they went with the S-400.
he said.
That’s not true. Turkey was offered the Patriot system but the Turks wanted extensive transfer of its technology as well which the US refused.
Truth shall set you free… Be truthfull … technology transfer came about when some pentagon and some senators who are not Turkish and NATO unity minded for 9 years from Obama’time unilmthey bought the S400’s …..Truth will set you free do not forget that….
Bad ass development. Turkiye is goin strong forward! You never wanted to be in confrontation...
Arkadaslar, ben senelerdir Korede kaliyorum. Onceden (2000'li ve 2010'lu senelerin basina kadar) bize karsi sevgi ve saygi vardi, ama bu artik neredeyse yok oldu. Kisacasi, tek tarafli ask haline gelmis diyebilirim, tabii Korenin lehine. Kore, populer ve basarili olduktan sonra, popolari iyice kalkti, simardilar ve artik kendilerini Bati ve Japonya gibi ulkeler ile ayni seviyede goruyorlar. Diger halklari kucuk goruyorlar ve bu halklari disliyorlar burada. Inanmayan buyursun bir 5 sene Korede kalsin. Kore devleti yine iyi diyelim, ama halkin cogunda (tekrar ediyorum, cogunda) is yok. Gozlerinizi lutfen acin, ve bunlari daha fazla simartmayin yahu. Hem kendinize, hem burada yasayan Turklere yazik oluyor. Bize ne kadar sevgi gosteriliyorsa, ona gore saygi gostermeliyiz. Bizim bunlara gosterdigimiz ilginin 10~20%'yi biz goremiyoruz burada. Lutfen dikkat edelim.
@millennium7* Your productions are a delight because of how you merge artistry with humility. My BS detector never goes off when I take in your work. Bravo!
Beatiful video thanks.
Many thanks!
As always perfect analys 👏👏👍 Glad to see another nation become independent 🎉🎉🎉 Greetings from Serbia. Good job Turkey ☺️
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sırplar ve türkler eski güzel günlerdeki gibi tekrar birlikte sırt sırta savaşacağı günleri heycanla bekliyoruz sırbistana sevgiler
Turk can emerge in different era like they always do ..I'm remembering when Turk making their drone and many also doubt it ..well they make it..the drone don't seem to be advanced like game changer but it's not bad ..they achieve what they aim..
The Turkish made drones was game changer in Syria,Ukraine and Azerbaijan. Now those drones changing the game in Africa. Now they have Akinci, Kizil elma ( unmanned fighter drone) and mini b2 ( anka 3). Turkey is atleast Top 3 in drone making. Now they are making tb3 version that can land and take off from helicopter landing ships.
Are u really a joke?.Which country can make game changer drones better than Turks?
Thanks
Thank you!
As an American, all i can say is:
Good luck! 😊
Congrats Turkey, very capable and underestimated country..Good choice to take matters into your own hands and go through the painful development stage, rather than begging uncle Sam for his overpriced F-35 NATO callsign RustBack. Will be following this projects, very interesting.
You do understand that's a British design. The British had developed their own stealth fighter and the USA convinced them to join the F35 program. That's why UK is the only country that can mod the F35(with Israel).
Turkey collaborate with BAE and KAAN was the result
@@Wasengenyieno not at all
@@Wasengenyie Are you Greek? :))
Maximum respect for the Turkish industry .such a program is a technonological risk . As a first fighter built ex the indian programs Marut and Tejas Marut was a semi failure be cause of the engines..two similar projects of 5 th generation aircraft to follow in the next years the south korean KF 21 BORAMAE and the indian programAMCA
It would appear that the rudders and vertical stabilizers were underestimated, but that is (or at least used to be) a common "error" in the aicraft industry as a whole.
Other than that, there is the possibility that the flaps could instead be flaperons, used when the ailerons+tails are not enough. There is a world of possibilities there alone.
As always, wonderful, beautiful video.
sanctions breed independence, such was the case in history with countries such as Taiwan, Israel, South Africa and even Iran, each were forced to home develop their alternatives in their military aircraft when faced with sanctions
There are only a handful people in the world that can analyse an aircraft like you can. Lucky us
impressive plane! very few countries have the capability to take on this kind of project.
The Venom 30 mm gun was designed by AEI in the UK. Sadly AEI were bought by CANIK last year. Those mass figures must mean that Kaan will have a relatively low fuel load. A hugely impressive achievement though.
Well don Turkey an amazing effort i really like the Kaan its beautiful
I’ve been anticipating and waiting for a video about KAAN from you for so long. Great unbiased video.
@1:45 the tail wobble is undamped movement common with this style of aircraft. The F35 actually bounces at this point in rotation because the wobble is dampened out.
Every country should build their own weapons when possible. Turkey is an ally to the USA and I wish them luck.
Türkiye will not buy F35. We know that the F-16s will not be delivered. You will also have a delivery problem with F110 engines. Now the choice of US air elements is over for us. There is not even a little bit of confidence left. You lost the oily customer because of the Armenian and Greek lobby congressmen. Thank you for our benefit
Update December 2024: Turkey purchased 40 Eurofighters so no need for the F-16 Vipers
Awesome video, you Turkish Shrill!
But seriously the amount of effort you put into researching and producing videos is very admirable. It is not a flood of misleading numbers and stats. No political or virtue signaling. Good context and details. All very relevant.
Your focussing and accuracy are unbelievable. 👌
Great coverage. Most detailed I have ever seen. Well done.
In a region with a neighbor which threatens everybody with nuclear annihilation while not acknowledging its nuclear power status Turkey has to be strong not only by developing its own fighter jets and its own missile defense systems but also consider the same approach that threatening neighbor has been taking for decades. As the Turkish saying goes: “Show the (profile of) the stick from under the garment”.
An alternate to your classic "Kaaaaaaan!!!!!!" opening - th-cam.com/video/UwPqAHNv2HE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aUkJs6Xsv8TlQJgb
Every time I read a comment about the Kaan, and its weapons/sensor suite being inferior to other Western equipment, I am reminded of the time just before WW2 started and the Japanese became involved. Every Western Power just poo-pooed the Japanese Military and their equipment as being inferior copies of Superior Western Equipment. Then Pearl Harbor happened, and everyone was "Surprised" at the quality, and lethality of Japanese military equipment.
But its objectively correct to say that these Gen 1 sensors/weapons are inferior to Western equipment, which has been around for many generations and multiple rounds of lessons learned and applying real world data into their upgrades and design. Its silly to assume that some of the first sensors/weapons systems the Turks ever created would be better at the first try. Also, "Superior Western" powers didn't say the Japanese "equipment as being inferior copies of Superior Western Equipment"... the Russians learned that the hard way a few decades before that.
The zero air plane was an American design, but the Japanese were a higher bidder.
@nahitakyel
Turkic tribes fought China.
There was no "Turks" some 2000 years ago !
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We'll see when this plane is introduced if it measures up.
Thanks!
Thank you to you!