Taking a look at the SIG P226 9mm DA/SA Legion. Make sure you time stamp my fart in the comments. Music: "Silent minds and empty hearts" - Balazs Varga • Silent Minds & Empty H...
Picked up my sig P226 Extreme on 12/11/22. Put a pro cut slide on it and a Romeo 2. Has 2450 rounds through it as of 1-1-23 and it’s been AMAZING. No failures to feed, eject, or chamber a round. Keeps 5 inch groups at 30 yards no problem with the cheapest range ammo we can find, (Blazer 124 Gr) all in all it’s a 10 out of 10 gun for me.
Yes, it is an awesome gun. Good to know the finish is holding up alright after you’ve run 4,000 rounds through it (not counting previous ownership). Glad you’re enjoying it.
I dont have near as many rounds through my 229 Legion yet, but I've been loving it. Its earned it's way into my summer carry slot. It just shoots so freakin well. Hope you have a great Christmas!
Man beautiful piece, I haven’t stepped into SIG yet but my 92 does what that pistol does for you, it’s just effortless to shoot. Can’t wait for the next review, keep up the videos and have a good Christmas!
My LTT 92 elite is pretty much does for me that your P226 does for you. Just effortless to shoot and brings smiles to anyone who tries it. Even changed some hearts on salty veterans who hated the beretta when they were still serving. Anyway. Hope you're doing well bro.
I've got a Blackened Stainless P226, which is an all Stainless steel lower/upper with the Nitron finish. It was my first 9mm, I bought it as I was getting out of 1911s, before my first Glock. I use grease on it and oil on the rest of my pistols. It's never failed me in over 8k rounds and has a really nice D/A trigger.
Just an added thing, sig recommends decocking before removing the slide after pushing the takedown lever down. It’s because the SRT safety lever initially wasn’t long enough and was pre engaged so removing the slide forcefully rubbed against the safety lever. That safety lever’s nub is what actuates and depresses the firing pin block plunger. If it gets too worn down then it may not disengage the FPB, causing a failure to fire.
I’m actually trading my p30L in for a p226 legion today. I’ve owned the HK for about 6 months. Swapping it out even-Steven for a brand new legion. #nobrainer
My son has the 226 and 229 both Legions...I prefer the 229 but I will take either one .....he just won't spare me one...lol...stay safe and Merry Christmas brother....good luck with your new lady
Seriously need to invest in a custom 1911. I've been watching you for years now with all these borderline top shelf pistols. Time to make the leap man. I did it 3 yrs ago and regret all the money and time wasted on HKs and Sigs. All I order now is Nighthawks or Wilsons.
The only 1911 that keeps popping on and off my list is a Dan Wesson specialist full size in black. It's all forged and $1800 is the top I would spend on a pistol. I like and respect the Wilson Combats, Triarc and the 2011's I see. But I can't bring myself to spend $3K on a pistol like that. I have to get these rifle projects knocked out, gear and NODS first. But I was raised on the 1911 so we'll see. Once everything else is purchased.
Great video, I had a P220 in .45 but sold it to thin the heard. If I didn’t already have the Glock or the Browning HP, this would be my choice for 9mm. Or even the P229.
How does the Legion compare with the Mark 25? I know the trigger and sights are better but any other advantages besides that? I really like the grips on the Legion it feels like a whole new gun compared to Mark 25 grips.
The grip is much better as well as the controls. IT's all of the little things in concert that deliver the high quality experience. I really like the attention to detail.
@@navyman8903 One more question. How is the recoil compared the standard USP 9? More or less or about the same? Thanks for the info, literally about to buy this pistol, just making sure im choosing right.
@@LLpros The recoil on the P226 is slightly less, but they're both smooth. The slide weight on the P226 is what helps with that. But both with a pistol light on there is good to go.
Have you checked out any of the high-end Baretta 92's? Wilson Combat, LTT or even an older Elite? Smooth actions and triggers. It's just a bummer that the prices have been inflated recently, if you have, are they in the running for your triad?
@@navyman8903 I have a Wilson Centurion and if I had known LTT was going to have one I would have gotten his instead for sure! Just a FYI. My Wilson is nice but LTT is to Beretta what Wilson is to 1911’s.
I am loving the trigger reset on my Legion and am curious how your P30L compares with the Grayguns parts. I am thinking about getting the grayguns kit for mine.
The GG kit is worth a buy for sure. I think the Legion SA reset and travel will always be better. But I honestly love my P30L with the GG kit in it. Makes it perfect IMO.
Any interest in the P229 legion? It feels better in my hand for whatever reason than the 226 and I shoot them about the same. Didn't i see a pic you posted a while back with a 229 slide split? What was the deal with that?
Looks sweet. I'm torn between getting a P30L and another steel-framed gun. I do wonder though: Are you not into optics on your pistols? I know it's personal preference for everyone, but I don't know if I've ever heard you talk about it.
@@navyman8903 you want to really go down the rabbit hole start shooting semi custom 9mm 1911’s and 2011’s. Your wallet will hate you but your happy factor will be a plus 10.
I picked up one of these a few months ago used, i like it more than my langdon berretta. Had to bubba one of my x300's to get it to work with the gun but oh well
Hah I remember you and the vp9 round count update vids (which you took down?) I just recently got this 226 legion, new, within in the first 30 rounds I had 1 failure to extract but it’s seemed to have hold up otherwise within 200 rounds besides that one malfunction. Have you experienced any failures with yours? The new factory mags aren’t black like yours, they’re closer to the legion finish.
Great video so I’m looking into purchasing a sig p226 not sure between a legion or the MK25 I’m now working private security so it will be used for duty use what’s your thoughts
For a duty gun, you'll probably want the MK25 with the SIG SRT kit. It's more replaceable if you have to use it and it gets taken for an investigation. It'll do better for harsh weather also.
have the Sig Elite basically in a nutshell the same gun except mine has the stainless slide and stainless color got a good deal new so I jumped on it I want to put a Dark brown bronze refinish when I get the chance. Anyway I love the 20rnd mags and the Sig Mag well grips you may want to try them out makes for better reloads with a little extra grip for the hand anyway give it a shot or not Semper Fi Navy man!
I had an x300u shit the bed on me and they sent me a new tail cap and that wasnt the issue so I sent the whole ass light in and they sent me what I assume is a refurbed one back. Both were thousand lumens so I think they're pretty even on what they send back to you versus what you send in.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. I'm going to send it in after the holidays, we'll see how things go. I'm hoping to get a legion light back, but who knows.
@@navyman8903 Wow you lucked out! Love this video. I have the P226 Legion and both the A and B models of this light and neither one fits. I suspect that if I use the smaller rail post on the A model that might work, but my B model no luck. Congrats on a great pistol and keep of the awesome content! Subscribing now!
Man where on earth can you find one for purchase right now? Literally everywhere is sold out of guns and this is the duty weapon I'm going to when adult christmas hits and I get my cheddar back from Unc. XD
9mm or 45 USP? The USP9 SD is a great pistol and an amazing suppressor host. I would probably still take the SIG but that's a tough call. The USP9 SD shoots very well, and even better suppressed.
@@navyman8903 not really comparing caliber but platforms. I shot a 226 in 40. I really didn’t care for the platform. I’ve shot a USP FS V1 in 9mm and own a .45 FS V1 and I love it. Full disclosure, while I own an Emperor Scorpion, I’m a HK ho at heart.
if i found a p226 legion for a good price i could get passed the gross long extractor...lol i still kick myself for not buying one of the blackwater models that came with a bunch of mags. one of the older x-5 tactical with normal sights from back in the day is another one i wish i jumped on. an old navy model before it was the mk25 and didnt have the qr code on it i regret selling my non railed german frame w/ short external extractor 226 still have a uu serial number p226....i think i got it 15 years ago? when .357 and .40 were the rage and i got a barsto 9mm conversion barrel
I love it, the trigger is excellent. It’s a pretty soft shooter. I did put in a low profile slide release because I have big hands and use a high grip.
Man recoil anticipation is a real bitch bro, i know you shoot a whole lot and see you still recoil anticipate (as i do myself) although I have shot thousands of rounds but still not as much as you i still catch myself anticipating the recoil often as well. What would you say is the cure for recoil anticipation? As much as you shoot i hate to think that it is cured by training, so leads me to believe is it mental? Or combo of both training and mentally? Would love to hear your thoughts man. Congrats on the 4k and "the new girl". Also hate to see the light went out as I have the same light myself lol.
The light situation has me sad. I don't do it all the time and even running it fast I corrected the flinch. I'm not sure why I do it with as much shooting as I do. It just happens. Just need more solid practice.
Gotcha ill try and get some more solid training in myself. On a side note I have some left over mags from when I had a P226 Legion RX. If you are interested I would love to trade you for some HK mags.
A: I told Surefire that I had a U-Boat that went tits up and they said “send it back so our engineers can figure out what happened. Do you want a black or tan replacement?” B: must remember to not watch your videos after a rough day… last time I bought my 11.5 Bendi. Today… well…. Ummm…
Not a fan of sigs due to part count and the whole detail strip process. H&k isn’t great either but not that bad. And don’t really get anything for it. No more durable, no more accurate, no more ergonomic.
Picked up my sig P226 Extreme on 12/11/22. Put a pro cut slide on it and a Romeo 2. Has 2450 rounds through it as of 1-1-23 and it’s been AMAZING. No failures to feed, eject, or chamber a round. Keeps 5 inch groups at 30 yards no problem with the cheapest range ammo we can find, (Blazer 124 Gr) all in all it’s a 10 out of 10 gun for me.
Yes, it is an awesome gun. Good to know the finish is holding up alright after you’ve run 4,000 rounds through it (not counting previous ownership). Glad you’re enjoying it.
I dont have near as many rounds through my 229 Legion yet, but I've been loving it. Its earned it's way into my summer carry slot. It just shoots so freakin well. Hope you have a great Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too. I really like the Legion series and they are effortless to shoot.
Man beautiful piece, I haven’t stepped into SIG yet but my 92 does what that pistol does for you, it’s just effortless to shoot. Can’t wait for the next review, keep up the videos and have a good Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you as well, and I have some Beretta pistols on the list for sure.
What’s your thoughts on the mk35 would you still choose the legion over the mk35
Really great review!
My LTT 92 elite is pretty much does for me that your P226 does for you. Just effortless to shoot and brings smiles to anyone who tries it. Even changed some hearts on salty veterans who hated the beretta when they were still serving. Anyway. Hope you're doing well bro.
Thanks and I hope you're doing well too. I'm looking into getting some berettas here soon.
I've got a Blackened Stainless P226, which is an all Stainless steel lower/upper with the Nitron finish. It was my first 9mm, I bought it as I was getting out of 1911s, before my first Glock. I use grease on it and oil on the rest of my pistols. It's never failed me in over 8k rounds and has a really nice D/A trigger.
They really are great guns. They absolutely call for grease but I just run the same oil I use on everything for continuity/ consolidation.
I will be getting one of these as soon as my store gets one in stock.
Just an added thing, sig recommends decocking before removing the slide after pushing the takedown lever down. It’s because the SRT safety lever initially wasn’t long enough and was pre engaged so removing the slide forcefully rubbed against the safety lever. That safety lever’s nub is what actuates and depresses the firing pin block plunger. If it gets too worn down then it may not disengage the FPB, causing a failure to fire.
Interesting, I've never heard that before. I'll look into that, thanks for the information.
Thanks Again for the info bro just ordered the sig legion 226 over the P30L
You're welcome and I really think you'll love it brother. It's also nice to have an all metal gun in the safe.
I’m actually trading my p30L in for a p226 legion today. I’ve owned the HK for about 6 months. Swapping it out even-Steven for a brand new legion.
#nobrainer
My son has the 226 and 229 both Legions...I prefer the 229 but I will take either one .....he just won't spare me one...lol...stay safe and Merry Christmas brother....good luck with your new lady
Thanks bro. Can't go wrong with a Legion. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Seriously need to invest in a custom 1911. I've been watching you for years now with all these borderline top shelf pistols. Time to make the leap man. I did it 3 yrs ago and regret all the money and time wasted on HKs and Sigs. All I order now is Nighthawks or Wilsons.
The only 1911 that keeps popping on and off my list is a Dan Wesson specialist full size in black. It's all forged and $1800 is the top I would spend on a pistol. I like and respect the Wilson Combats, Triarc and the 2011's I see. But I can't bring myself to spend $3K on a pistol like that. I have to get these rifle projects knocked out, gear and NODS first. But I was raised on the 1911 so we'll see. Once everything else is purchased.
Got one of these bad boys comin!
Great video, I had a P220 in .45 but sold it to thin the heard. If I didn’t already have the Glock or the Browning HP, this would be my choice for 9mm. Or even the P229.
For the surefire x300 ultra B on the p226 legion does it still hold well on the rail so far?
How does the Legion compare with the Mark 25? I know the trigger and sights are better but any other advantages besides that? I really like the grips on the Legion it feels like a whole new gun compared to Mark 25 grips.
The grip is much better as well as the controls. IT's all of the little things in concert that deliver the high quality experience. I really like the attention to detail.
@@navyman8903 One more question. How is the recoil compared the standard USP 9? More or less or about the same? Thanks for the info, literally about to buy this pistol, just making sure im choosing right.
@@LLpros The recoil on the P226 is slightly less, but they're both smooth. The slide weight on the P226 is what helps with that. But both with a pistol light on there is good to go.
@@navyman8903 Copy that friend. I’m hardcore HK USP fanboy so this is going to be an interesting change.
Is the 20 round mags worth the price difference between the metgar 18 rounders?
Have you checked out any of the high-end Baretta 92's? Wilson Combat, LTT or even an older Elite? Smooth actions and triggers. It's just a bummer that the prices have been inflated recently, if you have, are they in the running for your triad?
I'm looking at the Beretta M9A3 and Wilson combat offerings. I might give one of the LTT's a look for the centurion.
@@navyman8903 I have a Wilson Centurion and if I had known LTT was going to have one I would have gotten his instead for sure! Just a FYI. My Wilson is nice but LTT is to Beretta what Wilson is to 1911’s.
LOL... said you was fixing to change the Recoil assembly & then said it was perfectly fine!!! LMAO... been there done that
I am loving the trigger reset on my Legion and am curious how your P30L compares with the Grayguns parts. I am thinking about getting the grayguns kit for mine.
The GG kit is worth a buy for sure. I think the Legion SA reset and travel will always be better. But I honestly love my P30L with the GG kit in it. Makes it perfect IMO.
Nice gat. Any experience with any of the German P226Rs? I think it's the only 226 variant that -might- rival the Legion.
I haven't not had the pleasure yet sadly.
Any interest in the P229 legion? It feels better in my hand for whatever reason than the 226 and I shoot them about the same. Didn't i see a pic you posted a while back with a 229 slide split? What was the deal with that?
Looks sweet. I'm torn between getting a P30L and another steel-framed gun. I do wonder though: Are you not into optics on your pistols? I know it's personal preference for everyone, but I don't know if I've ever heard you talk about it.
I'm not a huge optic fan. I don't like the draw backs. I really love my P30L if you don't have one yet I would get one.
No optic cut out on original 226 legions! But they did put cutouts on newer ones!
Love all of the Legion guns from sig! It’s crazy to see enjoying something so much that doesn’t say HK on it.
I know. I'm kinda shocked myself.
@@navyman8903 you want to really go down the rabbit hole start shooting semi custom 9mm 1911’s and 2011’s. Your wallet will hate you but your happy factor will be a plus 10.
I picked up one of these a few months ago used, i like it more than my langdon berretta. Had to bubba one of my x300's to get it to work with the gun but oh well
Hah I remember you and the vp9 round count update vids (which you took down?) I just recently got this 226 legion, new, within in the first 30 rounds I had 1 failure to extract but it’s seemed to have hold up otherwise within 200 rounds besides that one malfunction. Have you experienced any failures with yours? The new factory mags aren’t black like yours, they’re closer to the legion finish.
I just put 1000 rounds in mine, brand new. Not a single issue other than wanting to put another 1000 through it and ammo isn’t cheap these days.
@@Typhoonbladefist dope. I put another 120 rounds through it a couple days ago at indoor range, no issues.
What is the price on the legion surefire?
Was that a fart at 12:00 mins? if so I will be subscribing. Great review. Great gun!
Yessir
How’s the finish on it now?
Great video so I’m looking into purchasing a sig p226 not sure between a legion or the MK25 I’m now working private security so it will be used for duty use what’s your thoughts
For a duty gun, you'll probably want the MK25 with the SIG SRT kit. It's more replaceable if you have to use it and it gets taken for an investigation. It'll do better for harsh weather also.
@@navyman8903 thank you it was really a hard decision I love that legion p226
have the Sig Elite basically in a nutshell the same gun except mine has the stainless slide and stainless color got a good deal new so I jumped on it I want to put a Dark brown bronze refinish when I get the chance. Anyway I love the 20rnd mags and the Sig Mag well grips you may want to try them out makes for better reloads with a little extra grip for the hand anyway give it a shot or not Semper Fi Navy man!
I'll give them a look. Thanks for the tip Devil.
I had an x300u shit the bed on me and they sent me a new tail cap and that wasnt the issue so I sent the whole ass light in and they sent me what I assume is a refurbed one back. Both were thousand lumens so I think they're pretty even on what they send back to you versus what you send in.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. I'm going to send it in after the holidays, we'll see how things go. I'm hoping to get a legion light back, but who knows.
How the f*** did you get a SF X-300-U to fit on a P226?! Did you have to grind material down on the battery hatch?
It just fit out of the box.
@@navyman8903 Wow you lucked out! Love this video. I have the P226 Legion and both the A and B models of this light and neither one fits. I suspect that if I use the smaller rail post on the A model that might work, but my B model no luck. Congrats on a great pistol and keep of the awesome content! Subscribing now!
@12:01-12:02 did you shit? Or we just gonna say that’s the chair haha just got mine the other day excited to test it out and see how it runs
Man where on earth can you find one for purchase right now? Literally everywhere is sold out of guns and this is the duty weapon I'm going to when adult christmas hits and I get my cheddar back from Unc. XD
I'm looking for a backup as well. Just have to keep hitting refresh I guess.
Do you like your USP or the 226 better?
9mm or 45 USP? The USP9 SD is a great pistol and an amazing suppressor host. I would probably still take the SIG but that's a tough call. The USP9 SD shoots very well, and even better suppressed.
@@navyman8903 not really comparing caliber but platforms. I shot a 226 in 40. I really didn’t care for the platform. I’ve shot a USP FS V1 in 9mm and own a .45 FS V1 and I love it. Full disclosure, while I own an Emperor Scorpion, I’m a HK ho at heart.
Name of the BGM please?
The Sig P226 has always been a favorite of mine as well, but I still prefer the HK P30 myself. So...tell us about “the girl”!
We shall see what happens with the girl. IT's looking good but still new. I really do love my P30L. It's a solid gun and also hasn't let me down.
@@navyman8903 Well I wish you and your new girl all the best! I keep my P30L in the nightstand and carry the P30 concealed when weather allows.
Where do you get your ammo?
This is going to sound like a dick answer. But honestly wherever I can find it. All the watering holes are dry and I rely on notification emails.
@@navyman8903 it’s the truth! I’m finding only .34 a round at the moment:/
if i found a p226 legion for a good price i could get passed the gross long extractor...lol
i still kick myself for not buying one of the blackwater models that came with a bunch of mags.
one of the older x-5 tactical with normal sights from back in the day is another one i wish i jumped on.
an old navy model before it was the mk25 and didnt have the qr code on it
i regret selling my non railed german frame w/ short external extractor 226
still have a uu serial number p226....i think i got it 15 years ago? when .357 and .40 were the rage and i got a barsto 9mm conversion barrel
I really like the Legion. The old blackwater models were sweet back in the day and I passed on one regrettably back in the day.
The 226 SAO Legion is the way…..
Let me know how she does for you.
I love it, the trigger is excellent. It’s a pretty soft shooter. I did put in a low profile slide release because I have big hands and use a high grip.
gun is good and greased . i like that . what kind of gun oil is that ???
M Pro 7.
How about the VP9’s still running them?
Yessir. I've still got 2 of the 3. I downsized a little bit to finish other projects.
why isnt the slide locking back
Just where my stubby thumb rests. Nothing wrong with the gun.
Man recoil anticipation is a real bitch bro, i know you shoot a whole lot and see you still recoil anticipate (as i do myself) although I have shot thousands of rounds but still not as much as you i still catch myself anticipating the recoil often as well. What would you say is the cure for recoil anticipation? As much as you shoot i hate to think that it is cured by training, so leads me to believe is it mental? Or combo of both training and mentally? Would love to hear your thoughts man. Congrats on the 4k and "the new girl". Also hate to see the light went out as I have the same light myself lol.
The light situation has me sad. I don't do it all the time and even running it fast I corrected the flinch. I'm not sure why I do it with as much shooting as I do. It just happens. Just need more solid practice.
Gotcha ill try and get some more solid training in myself.
On a side note I have some left over mags from when I had a P226 Legion RX. If you are interested I would love to trade you for some HK mags.
A: I told Surefire that I had a U-Boat that went tits up and they said “send it back so our engineers can figure out what happened. Do you want a black or tan replacement?”
B: must remember to not watch your videos after a rough day… last time I bought my 11.5 Bendi. Today… well…. Ummm…
12:01 wet fart
Not a fan of sigs due to part count and the whole detail strip process. H&k isn’t great either but not that bad. And don’t really get anything for it. No more durable, no more accurate, no more ergonomic.
I mean, detail stripping either can be tedious in different places. But to each their own, I can't fault someone for something they don't like.
@@navyman8903 handgun is proven. can’t say it’s junk or doesn’t have a solid record. I’m just a Glock /USP fan
Shame we never got a p227 legion!
@@gh-gv8mx sig would rather make stupid other models than serious ones like that
@@gh-gv8mx Honestly I would buy one, I've also wrote SIG about it. But I doubt it.
Light is dead and slide doesn’t stay back on an empty mag hahahaha