Excellent! I’ve read the manuals and seen many videos on chainsaw carb adjustment but this was the most succinct and helpful demonstration I’ve seen, including the counterclockwise for more fuel, clockwise for lean. I get it now. Thank you!
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for making this video. Like others have said, this was the first video I came across that actually made sense when you explained it. You should make another video, in a quiet place. Lol
Thank you for this video! I’m an old school mechanic and submarine sonar technician… we did everything by ear! I like your clean cut, to the point method! Thanks again! 👍
and you have fuel. When I was learning to tune, I had my 660 almost perfect and then it started stalling. I could start it and then it would die. I was messing around with the jets again only to realise i was out of fuel 😂
Very good video💙 I didn't realize for the longest time that the little stihl screwdriver they give you, it has a little triangle on the end of the handle, its really helpful in knowing how many turns you've made when adjusting a carb💙💙💙 good on stihl for actually putting some thought into the tools they include with equipment 💙
With all due respect to all the other carb tuning videos out there ... this is the first one that makes me feel like I might be able to tune a saw on my own with some practice ... maybe start with a cheaper saw :) Thank you!
You need to get Mike a little electric Poulan so he stops disrupting the videos ha ha ha 😂 Awesome video this is exactly how I tune my saws as well 🤘 Stay safe. Get logs.
I’m ashamed to admit it, but I have to tell the truth. I haven’t watched one of your videos now in 2 to 3 weeks. Simply because we’ve been so busy here where we live in NW Montana. YAAK MONTANA. Snow removal and working on equipment to get it ready for spring. Logging season. In winter it’s simply too much work to try logging. Between getting stuck, And, tearing up equipment because of getting stuck, it’s simply not worth it. Now that I am pretty much caught up, I’m going to kick back, relax, late into the night, and do nothing besides watch your videos and get all caught up!! YESSSSSSSSS!!!
To anyone just learning how to adjust their carb, if you have to really adjust the screws to get it running good, then you need to check for intake boot leaks or etc, the screws shouldnt be super far off from each other example - one screw turned a 1/4 turn and the other turned 3 full turns... that is a sign that something else is wrong with your machine💙💙
Great video, My big saws (064 and 084) are both needing a tune, I was thinking about trying to dial them in this weekend. Both are running a little fat so not worried about hurting them but man im getting tired of pulling on the 084 when it dies at idle. I need to come meet ya, I think im about an hour north of you. I just found your channel; I like your videos.
Thanks mate After trying other methods and lots and lots and lots of swearing I now have my saw running sweet And can hear the splutter at high speed revs Cheers from all the way in New Zealand
Great stuff Gordy! I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates these lil tip vids! Ya know, just the tips! Keep up the great stuff both vid wise & WCS wise! Ya'll be safe!
With all the complete nonsense floating around TH-cam it is ultra refreshing to see a video that basically anyone can use, and explanations as to WHY the adjustments should be done how they’re done. That 460 is pretty snappy! Very well done, and with the confidence in what you’re doing to give others the confidence to do the same! I would add…clean air filter, properly mixed fuel and known good plug, but these are givens to the experienced user. I’m a bit late on the comment but the video will be useful forever, just excellent! Question…what oil do YOU use? Have you seen all the oil videos?? Whaaaat??? I’ve used HP Ultra in saws, trimmers, blowers,etc for decades and never blown an engine in anything. I probably log 100 hours of “2 stroke time” a year. Why does it get such a bad rap from some if its that bad? And why would Stihl have you buy a 6 pack with a new machine to extend the warranty if it was going to cause failure which they would then have to warranty? Or….or….is this just a bunch of axe grinding on these videos I’ve seen about HP Ultra? What’s your choice and why?
All of my spark plugs are a bit darker than anyone else's around where I live. Had one that I rebuilt, a Stihl 391, that had an almost white plug. Pulled the limiter caps off the carb, set it a bit rich, and haven't had any problems since the rebuild. My 881, which I use for milling, has a pretty dark plug, but it'll pull through anything without going lean.
Great video right on the money even from years ago old firewood, cutter, 026, 044 sure miss the sound of a screaming, two-stroke! I used to duck tape, my pant legs
Gordy I have seen a lot of tuning videos. I mean almost all of them. I learned more in this one video than I did from all the others. Specifically about the low jet. Most every video says you want your low jet leaned out for max throttle response. But I didn’t know the low jet is feeding the high. I am going back to 1-1/4 on my L and re-tune. When you start tuning the low jet what position do you have the idle screw? Just at mid range? One other thing I’ve not seen out there is tuning of a rev limited saw. It’s real hard to do the ear method for me because the 4 stroke and the rev limiter sound so similar. Maybe you can give us some insight on that
Awesome video. I just recently got a 461 and should be getting my Bark Box and Maxflo this week, so I'll have to adjust the carburetor. With the 461 having a rev limiter, would I be correct in assuming that I'm simply going to have to rely on a tach (which I have already)? Or, in a pinch can you just bounce it off the rev limiter and adjust the needle to the point where it doesn't hit the limiter and then turn the needle back a touch to where it's just tickling the rev limiter? And suggestions would be appreciated.
The low jet will adjust the same as this video If you are at sea level and you end you pulling the limiter caps out you should land around 1 1/8 turn low jet 1 turn high jet That will be enough fuel you can tune it down from there You want it to hit the limiter it won’t hurt a thing 👌
How did I get here? Okay let’s start. First of all, I need a saw! I landed on the STIHL 261 with a 20” bar as my choice. I have never even owned or used a chain saw before. Now I feel like a seasoned pro over here after researching for a week straight (Kidding! I have never cut down a tree before or used a saw before) lol. Okay, so Stihl Mtronic or Stihl Non-Mtronic. My local dealer has both 261 flavors, and both with 20” bars. I have lots of 2 stroke tuning experience with my Nitro RC car days as a kid and adult. So I might go with the Non-Mtronic model. 😊 I’m still a little undecided.
I guess its the same for my little home owner saw. 120 huskvarna my really wraps hard too hard after I leaned it out like it could blow up. but when I richen it up it really bogs. I cannot find the spot your talking about with the miss. It either too lean or waay rich. I will have to mess with it more. I did a turn and a half out on the high. the low wont even idle. 1 .5 out on that too. One guy said on youtube go 1.25 out old bucking billy says. that would be reall lean. Scary lean for this little saw. I ordered a Digital Non-contact Laser Photo Tachometer RPM Tach Tester Meter Speed Gauge I may have to wait for that to get here.
Awesome video! I got my barkbox and new dogs for my ms462 today. I was looking for some good advice to adjust the carburetor after the installation. Thank you!
Hey brother. Thanks for instructions im in Ireland 🇮🇪 and its reached me. Question recently done a rebuild on a oleomac952 and had to adjust carburetor. After first run i notice plug looks carbon fouled is this normal after rebuild saw sound and runs good. Im a diy guy this has been the first rebuild ive ever done so everything is new .
Hey Gordy, new subscriber here. I did have a question. Regarding the 500i and any saw with the m-tronic system, will it automatically adjust for a muffler mod or port job?
GOOD VID..I ENJOY BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN A SAW MYSELF THOUGH I'M NOT GREAT AT IT. WHY DOES A SAW STALL WHEN IN BETWEEN CUTS? I ENGAGE BREAK TO GET IN A BETTER POSITION MAYBE 45 SECONDS TO A MINUTE IF THE SAW STAYS IDLE THAT LONG WHEN I DISENGAGE BREAK AND SQUEEZE THROTTLE IT STALLS. STARTS BACK UP BUT SUPER ANNOYING CONSTANTLY STALLING - THANKS
Any suggestions on high jet setting on a 461? I have mine set somewhere between 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 with a bark box and max flow. Seems to clean up in bigger wood but i still think im fairly rich, i tached it around 13000-13200.
If you are under 2,500 feet elevation try 1 1/8 turn on low and 1 turn on high should be super close You are real rich at 1 1/2 on that high I am running 1 turn on my built 461 👍
@@westcoastsaw1368 Cool thanks! Ya I’m at sea level, I figured I was rich, didn’t realize I was that rich because the saw runs great, just fourstrokes in small wood.
@@westcoastsaw1368 Gordy the plug has a little carbon build up on it so what would I do to get it the nice brown color you were talking about and it is a stock saw
So you have that 460 ported a bit yeah? Do you happen to know where a stock internal one likes to sit at the high rpm? Ive got a max flow. Port matched exhaust and the dual port hogged out a bit. Feels like it enjoys around 12500
all my old school logger friends have tried to tune my saws by ear and they get pretty close. but an rpm reader is only 10$ and so much more accurate. and the worst was when my friend "pro tuner" tried to tune my saw after a few beers and he messed it up real good. almost over heated my saw.
What I did with all my saws and it worked great, was to pick the idle up till the clutch is engaged, and then tweak the low jet to optimal, this way there is some work it has to do but not enough for the high to come into play. You can even tighten the chain, so the chain doesn't spin but is still forced to work just the same, probably safer to do it like this. The high jet is easy to tell, the low can be tricky, but not now. Then just adjust you idle till it's just off the clutch.
Why does Stihl charge $200 to put a wrap handle on the 362? $200 for some bent tubing an pre drilled holes. You should undercut them an make something of your own to sell, some hopped up fancy boy handlebars lol
Problem is that anyone that doesn’t already know how to adjust a carb isn’t likely to have a non limiting coil saw. It’s probably also going to have limiters and that makes the low jet harder as well. A new consumer is doubly screwed and will probably never learn to adjust a carb correctly. 🤷🏽♂️
Excellent! I’ve read the manuals and seen many videos on chainsaw carb adjustment but this was the most succinct and helpful demonstration I’ve seen, including the counterclockwise for more fuel, clockwise for lean. I get it now. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!👍
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for making this video. Like others have said, this was the first video I came across that actually made sense when you explained it. You should make another video, in a quiet place. Lol
Thank you for this video! I’m an old school mechanic and submarine sonar technician… we did everything by ear! I like your clean cut, to the point method! Thanks again! 👍
WHY AM I IN LOVE WITH TREE FELLING
Me too brother 😂
One thing I might add is make sure your AIR FILTER is CLEAN, before any Adjustment!
Good tip!👍
and you have fuel. When I was learning to tune, I had my 660 almost perfect and then it started stalling. I could start it and then it would die. I was messing around with the jets again only to realise i was out of fuel 😂
Very good video💙 I didn't realize for the longest time that the little stihl screwdriver they give you, it has a little triangle on the end of the handle, its really helpful in knowing how many turns you've made when adjusting a carb💙💙💙 good on stihl for actually putting some thought into the tools they include with equipment 💙
The mustache man is so damn steampunk.
Great video on tuneing! Most people don’t know where lean is, thanks
THE absolute best tuning video out there🫡
With all due respect to all the other carb tuning videos out there ... this is the first one that makes me feel like I might be able to tune a saw on my own with some practice ... maybe start with a cheaper saw :) Thank you!
If you buy a saw brand new make sure it is not auto tune. Otherwise, you will not be able to tune it the way Gordy shows in this video.
It’s tuning a carburetor, not rocket science..
Remember most saws that 'just'needs a tune' have something actually wrong with it. Rarely does anyone go screw up their own jet settings
@@7eisor maybe a new exhaust, such as a bark box hmmmmmm weird….
Actually a lot of people do just that not knowing what they are really doing. @@7eis
You need to get Mike a little electric Poulan so he stops disrupting the videos ha ha ha 😂
Awesome video this is exactly how I tune my saws as well 🤘
Stay safe. Get logs.
I've watched this twice now. I have learned so dang off this channel. Thanks Gordy
I’m ashamed to admit it, but I have to tell the truth. I haven’t watched one of your videos now in 2 to 3 weeks. Simply because we’ve been so busy here where we live in NW Montana. YAAK MONTANA.
Snow removal and working on equipment to get it ready for spring. Logging season. In winter it’s simply too much work to try logging. Between getting stuck, And, tearing up equipment because of getting stuck, it’s simply not worth it.
Now that I am pretty much caught up, I’m going to kick back, relax, late into the night, and do nothing besides watch your videos and get all caught up!! YESSSSSSSSS!!!
Thanks dear sir. Solid clarity for us weekend warrior types!
Long live 460RHD!!!❤ My favorite big saw, the only one I would not change to anything else.
Short, simple and clean explanation. No need to search for something better (full stop).
To anyone just learning how to adjust their carb, if you have to really adjust the screws to get it running good, then you need to check for intake boot leaks or etc, the screws shouldnt be super far off from each other example - one screw turned a 1/4 turn and the other turned 3 full turns... that is a sign that something else is wrong with your machine💙💙
Great video, My big saws (064 and 084) are both needing a tune, I was thinking about trying to dial them in this weekend. Both are running a little fat so not worried about hurting them but man im getting tired of pulling on the 084 when it dies at idle. I need to come meet ya, I think im about an hour north of you. I just found your channel; I like your videos.
Gordy, something tells me that you’re probably fun to work with and just an enjoyable kind of “cus” to hang out with.
Good vid man!😊
Well thank you we are only here for a short time it mite as well be a good time 😁
@@westcoastsaw1368 that’s for certain. Because if you can’t have fun, then what’s the point.
Awesome video Gordy!! Surprised Garrett doesn't have a WCS clutch cover on that saw.😉 Keep the content coming, I can't get enough of it!
They don’t make one for the 460 😢.
Thanks 👍
@@nhill05 yes we do 👍
@@westcoastsaw1368 how did I miss that?! Lol. Just ordered one for my 460. Heck yeah!
That saw sounds and responds beautifully!
Thanks mate
After trying other methods and lots and lots and lots of swearing
I now have my saw running sweet
And can hear the splutter at high speed revs
Cheers from all the way in New Zealand
Great stuff Gordy! I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates these lil tip vids! Ya know, just the tips!
Keep up the great stuff both vid wise & WCS wise!
Ya'll be safe!
Glad you like them!
The MS460 and 461 were Stihls best overall saws! Miss them dearly
064 😮
@@seakadventurer1330 can’t forget about the 064! 💪🏻
I've got an old school 046 mag 32in oregon power match bar .404 chain
With all the complete nonsense floating around TH-cam it is ultra refreshing to see a video that basically anyone can use, and explanations as to WHY the adjustments should be done how they’re done. That 460 is pretty snappy! Very well done, and with the confidence in what you’re doing to give others the confidence to do the same! I would add…clean air filter, properly mixed fuel and known good plug, but these are givens to the experienced user. I’m a bit late on the comment but the video will be useful forever, just excellent!
Question…what oil do YOU use? Have you seen all the oil videos?? Whaaaat??? I’ve used HP Ultra in saws, trimmers, blowers,etc for decades and never blown an engine in anything. I probably log 100 hours of “2 stroke time” a year. Why does it get such a bad rap from some if its that bad? And why would Stihl have you buy a 6 pack with a new machine to extend the warranty if it was going to cause failure which they would then have to warranty? Or….or….is this just a bunch of axe grinding on these videos I’ve seen about HP Ultra? What’s your choice and why?
100hrs a year would be about equal to 2-3wks of regular work so it might take you 20-25yrs to equal the hours put on a production saw in one year.
I actually like the background saws/‘noise’. Real guys with tested advice. 👌🏻
All of my spark plugs are a bit darker than anyone else's around where I live. Had one that I rebuilt, a Stihl 391, that had an almost white plug. Pulled the limiter caps off the carb, set it a bit rich, and haven't had any problems since the rebuild. My 881, which I use for milling, has a pretty dark plug, but it'll pull through anything without going lean.
such a great video Gordy thanks so much for making this.
Something about cutting trees is so satisfying.
Great video right on the money even from years ago old firewood, cutter, 026, 044 sure miss the sound of a screaming, two-stroke! I used to duck tape, my pant legs
Dang, those loggers are inconsiderate. 🤣 Great info. 👍
Awesome, just rebuilt my husky and was a bit unsure about the tuning... not anymore tho thanks to you..
That square body❤. I got a 87 regular cab dually 4x4 that I’m swapping a 12 valve in.
Higher altitude cutting 8,000 ft..leaner or richer?...it seems any of my saws run like crap up hill
As you go up go leaner
Every 1,000 foot you loose 3% air so at 8,000 you are going to run 20% less fuel hope that helps
Another great video from the living legend his self😂
Thanks Gordy awesome video just what I was looking for. Thanks so much
This is spot on thanks for sharing it.
This is excellent, thanks so much for reaching us all how to do this!
Gordy I have seen a lot of tuning videos. I mean almost all of them. I learned more in this one video than I did from all the others. Specifically about the low jet. Most every video says you want your low jet leaned out for max throttle response. But I didn’t know the low jet is feeding the high. I am going back to 1-1/4 on my L and re-tune.
When you start tuning the low jet what position do you have the idle screw? Just at mid range?
One other thing I’ve not seen out there is tuning of a rev limited saw. It’s real hard to do the ear method for me because the 4 stroke and the rev limiter sound so similar. Maybe you can give us some insight on that
Great video man,really clear,keep up the great work,keep safe,work hard and be honest.
Thanks Gordy! Helpful video!!!! Will fattening up the low jet get rid of that bog?
Great simple video thanks fellow!
Good info 👍 I'm going to get me a set of your dogs for my new 462 now I know how to fatten that carb up 😀
Awesome video. I just recently got a 461 and should be getting my Bark Box and Maxflo this week, so I'll have to adjust the carburetor. With the 461 having a rev limiter, would I be correct in assuming that I'm simply going to have to rely on a tach (which I have already)? Or, in a pinch can you just bounce it off the rev limiter and adjust the needle to the point where it doesn't hit the limiter and then turn the needle back a touch to where it's just tickling the rev limiter? And suggestions would be appreciated.
The low jet will adjust the same as this video
If you are at sea level and you end you pulling the limiter caps out you should land around
1 1/8 turn low jet
1 turn high jet
That will be enough fuel you can tune it down from there
You want it to hit the limiter it won’t hurt a thing 👌
How did I get here? Okay let’s start. First of all, I need a saw! I landed on the STIHL 261 with a 20” bar as my choice. I have never even owned or used a chain saw before. Now I feel like a seasoned pro over here after researching for a week straight (Kidding! I have never cut down a tree before or used a saw before) lol. Okay, so Stihl Mtronic or Stihl Non-Mtronic. My local dealer has both 261 flavors, and both with 20” bars. I have lots of 2 stroke tuning experience with my Nitro RC car days as a kid and adult. So I might go with the Non-Mtronic model. 😊 I’m still a little undecided.
Hell yeah, thanks Gordy!
I guess its the same for my little home owner saw. 120 huskvarna my really wraps hard too hard after I leaned it out like it could blow up. but when I richen it up it really bogs. I cannot find the spot your talking about with the miss. It either too lean or waay rich. I will have to mess with it more. I did a turn and a half out on the high. the low wont even idle. 1 .5 out on that too. One guy said on youtube go 1.25 out old bucking billy says. that would be reall lean. Scary lean for this little saw. I ordered a Digital Non-contact Laser Photo Tachometer RPM Tach Tester Meter Speed Gauge I may have to wait for that to get here.
Thanks Gordie.
Great video Gordy. Is that your red dually? If so I would love to see a video on that!
Great n first class teaching 😊!
Well done Gordy 👏
Great info as always. Thanks Gordy.
Good video. Thank you for sharing.
Awesome video! I got my barkbox and new dogs for my ms462 today. I was looking for some good advice to adjust the carburetor after the installation. Thank you!
Do you not have the Mtronic version? Because the 462C will auto carb adjust on its own?
Gordy I like my plug color like a light chocolate brown or a honeycomb brown
👌
Atta boy great video
Hey brother.
Thanks for instructions im in Ireland 🇮🇪 and its reached me.
Question recently done a rebuild on a oleomac952 and had to adjust carburetor.
After first run i notice plug looks carbon fouled is this normal after rebuild saw sound and runs good.
Im a diy guy this has been the first rebuild ive ever done so everything is new .
great video
Hey Gordy, new subscriber here. I did have a question. Regarding the 500i and any saw with the m-tronic system, will it automatically adjust for a muffler mod or port job?
Yes it will
Definitely more pleasant than the leg method
GOOD VID..I ENJOY BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN A SAW MYSELF THOUGH I'M NOT GREAT AT IT. WHY DOES A SAW STALL WHEN IN BETWEEN CUTS? I ENGAGE BREAK TO GET IN A BETTER POSITION MAYBE 45 SECONDS TO A MINUTE IF THE SAW STAYS IDLE THAT LONG WHEN I DISENGAGE BREAK AND SQUEEZE THROTTLE IT STALLS. STARTS BACK UP BUT SUPER ANNOYING CONSTANTLY STALLING - THANKS
Thanks good class thanks 😊
Ahhh think this would carry over to a brush cutter? 525RX Husq, thing's a beast but improved performance is always welcome.
Great 👍🏼 job on video my friend
Great video, thank you
remember to tune an engine only after it's good and warmed up
Very good info.
Well done. Basic stuff.
You'll never burn up a saw running it too rich.
When ya gonna tell us about that dooley?
Any suggestions on high jet setting on a 461? I have mine set somewhere between 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 with a bark box and max flow. Seems to clean up in bigger wood but i still think im fairly rich, i tached it around 13000-13200.
If you are under 2,500 feet elevation try
1 1/8 turn on low and 1 turn on high should be super close
You are real rich at 1 1/2 on that high
I am running 1 turn on my built 461 👍
@@westcoastsaw1368 Cool thanks! Ya I’m at sea level, I figured I was rich, didn’t realize I was that rich because the saw runs great, just fourstrokes in small wood.
My WOT guess of 14,400 was damn close by ear. I know anything 15k and up screams
Do brand new STIHL saws from factory run rich?
Do you run a "custom" amount of mix oil? I knew a logger that ran 3.25oz/gallon, curious if you tamper with the recipe?
Gordy I have a 029 Stihl it runs ok but it seems to bog down in the cut way more than I believe it should what should I look for
Take a look at your plug color to see how it looks you mite be out of adjustment
@@westcoastsaw1368 Gordy the plug has a little carbon build up on it so what would I do to get it the nice brown color you were talking about and it is a stock saw
Good job Gordy
Brown color is where we want the spark plug to be??
So you have that 460 ported a bit yeah? Do you happen to know where a stock internal one likes to sit at the high rpm? Ive got a max flow. Port matched exhaust and the dual port hogged out a bit. Feels like it enjoys around 12500
all my old school logger friends have tried to tune my saws by ear and they get pretty close. but an rpm reader is only 10$ and so much more accurate. and the worst was when my friend "pro tuner" tried to tune my saw after a few beers and he messed it up real good. almost over heated my saw.
Right on the money!
Awesome stuff
Excfllent video! Do a red truck review?!
What are we getting a WCS 461 air filter😅
Man yall cut some big trees out that way. Im in Tennessee and there are a few big trees around but not like out there
Very good!
great information. thank you.
Rad. Sounds nice!
Good job. Very informative. The video and sounds are coming in spectacular. Keep up great job and stay safe. 💪🏻
Great video!
How many times a week or a month minimum should one do this ?
Mite not have to touch it at all just l watch the color of your screens and listen to her she’ll tell ya when 👍
Always thought we were cheating pushing them over with an excavator but now that I see the pros do it lmafao
Give her the fuel! Nice dogs!
What I did with all my saws and it worked great, was to pick the idle up till the clutch is engaged, and then tweak the low jet to optimal, this way there is some work it has to do but not enough for the high to come into play. You can even tighten the chain, so the chain doesn't spin but is still forced to work just the same, probably safer to do it like this. The high jet is easy to tell, the low can be tricky, but not now. Then just adjust you idle till it's just off the clutch.
cummins swapped chev?
Yes
@@westcoastsaw1368 Hell yeah! I have a 86 swapped
Why does Stihl charge $200 to put a wrap handle on the 362? $200 for some bent tubing an pre drilled holes. You should undercut them an make something of your own to sell, some hopped up fancy boy handlebars lol
put a west coast sticker on that helmet
I have some questions to ask
Do you know John @jcs
Problem is that anyone that doesn’t already know how to adjust a carb isn’t likely to have a non limiting coil saw. It’s probably also going to have limiters and that makes the low jet harder as well. A new consumer is doubly screwed and will probably never learn to adjust a carb correctly. 🤷🏽♂️
Cowlitz county!!!!