cant run forever. the uk wont be the last place to do these things. the whole western world moves in very close circles. got to be like the farmers. they knew those restrictions wouldnt stay in just one country and it didnt.
Well, the Industrial Revolution is what started this ideology of capitalism & "mass is better." More work meant more help needed from immigrants. Larger population meant a larger government. Larger government meant more taxes. And then technological advances stripped a lot of jobs from humans & high wage demands from Brits caused companies to outsource to other countries for cheap labour. Now that most of the Industrial jobs have left this country, taxes are still high to manage the large population from the immigrants who helped build this country. So yh. This mess as a whole was inevitable. China will be next to crumble. Capitalism isn't sustainable at all & people there are living in cages. Over 90% of their population are Han Chinese, so fairly low immigration rate. But it's only a matter of time before capitalism rips them from the inside out.
@@Sasquinydont know a single person who's ever used a dealership.. especially nowadays with so many online market places.. only people who use forecourt dealerships are only there for one reason, finance. Spend less buy your car outright and they can swivel.
@@MDM1992 While thats true, most cars sold right now are company cars.. whole fleets of them. From 3 all the way to 50 cars in a single order :D thats why cars are getting so shit, because the regular people just arent buying new cars anymore.
Great to see the UK still implementing EU regulations lol. Fortunately I've used my Irish passport to implement my freedom of movement where I can live in Germany and commute to work at 241 kmph down the Autobahn .
Quote: In effect, the ISA will use a mixture of GPS data and traffic sign recognition cameras, technology already fitted to the vast majority of new vehicles, to determine what the speed limit is down a given road, and then apply varying levels of electronic intervention to encourage a driver to stick to that speed limit. That doesn’t necessarily mean a hard limiter, and the technology can still be overridden by pressing down harder on the accelerator - a vital safety feature in some driving conditions, so the ISA tech won’t outright prevent people from going above the limit if they need (or want) to.
It's more insidious than just a speed limiter. The device will be required to detect the speed limit. The only reliable way to achive this cost-effectively at the moment is using GPS. Front facing cameras to "read" signs and the data processing hardware to achive a similar result to how Teslas note speed limits is just too expensive and complex to install when compared with a small prossesor, GPS chip and accelerometer. It's all about even more constant surveillance.
I just returned home to Belgium last sunday and i left Liverpool at 2200hrs to drive to Dover for my ferry at 0600hrs . The drive was terrible most of the way i had to drive at 50 mph thats 80kmh for me on 4 lane motorway without a hard shoulder. I can understand going thru roadworks at 50 mph but a motorway at night with not much traffic . Its just a joke now driving in the UK an lots of pot holes Belgium is also not such a good place to drive ether but i used to enjoy my yearly trip to see family but not anymore.
There's some propper wobblers in this comment section. 😆 If you don't trust yourself with a vehicle that can go over 70, maybe you should stick with an EV that the state can constantly monitor and take control of, for your own good of course.
This is extremely dangerous because speed limits are not all so accurate with gps the amount of times my car has said the road is like 20mph when it sees a sign that says 20 but it’s in a different road it’s madness this country is officially finished
Rebel to oblivion and then rinse and repeat. It’s a fact that a group of people simply fail to function properly without an authority telling them what to do.
Unfortunately, he's more or less correct, they will have speed limiters fitted (initially you'll be able to switch it off, but my guess is that'll get dumped after a year or so) also the automatic calling of emergency services in the event of a crash, means that your car is tracked. Stop being so naive.
Because we're an EU member, we pay in and follow the rules, we just don't receive any of the benefits from membership now, thank the Tories, zero seats.
I'll lay odds that the ability to turn it off will only be available for maybe 2 years to get people use to it, but then they will remove the ability to switch it off
@@TheColehaboIt will probably electronically cut the acceleration when having reached the desired speed. It has been done before. In Japan the cars were (or still is?) limited to 180 km/h or ~112 mph.
Company vehicles I've driven we're limited to 70mph. Acceleration wasn't affected. They'd get get up to 70mph in the same amount of time but once at 70 it's like hitting a gale force wind coming in the opposite direction and they'd just hold back... @@TheColehabo
And this is the point, why are you going over 70 mph and over taking? Same with lane hogging, that's only a thing because people are speeding, and with the over use of phones in vehicles...., let's slow you lot down so you don't kill a person.
There are plenty of examples of dangerous driving out there where speed isn't a factor. But because the Police only use speeding fines to generate cash they never get dealt with. Think about it. You cant ban people for life from driving even though it's a privilege...... safety my arse
@@chappy2121 This is crap. Both the idea that speed cameras exist just to generate money, and that that's all the police cares about. First, the speed camera thing. If the police and the government only put up speed cameras to make money from speeding fines, why are they wanting to introduce the ISA technology at all? Surely you'd just keep the existing system so you could keep making loads of money from speeding fines...? Also, you don't just get a fine, you get points for speeding, which can get you a ban if you get enough. Surely if they were just out to make money, they wouldn't bother with the points, and they'd just keep all the speeding drivers on the road so they could keep fining them? Also, you are correct in saying that there are a lot of accidents where speed isn't a factor. But saying these aren't dealt with is untrue. According to Statista, the leading cause of vehicle accidents in the UK is drivers not looking properly. In hundreds of cases, local councils have responded to this by adding signage and changing road layouts to encourage drivers to slow down and look better. As for reckless and dangerous driving, the police is trying to crack down on it, but I can agree they are not doing enough at the moment. I think that surveillance cameras and dashcams are important to help with this, so that more incidents can be reported to the police, and dealt with.
Don't listen to the clickbait on social media, this isn't what they're doing at all....... Not yet. However "This little known pedal hack will give you 60% better MPG"
because nobody asked us if we wanted a nationwide 20mph limit. why do you equate law with morality? they could set the limit to 5mph tomorrow if they wanted to. If there is an emergency then it may be required to go over their arbitrary limits
@@yxcdeb . Not the most sensible of answers, but that’s the internet for you :-) I was looking for a genuinely good reason for people to exceed the speed limit. Emergency vehicles already can and do.
@@WoolyChewbakker What wasnt sensible about them? Not emergency vehicles. ME in an emergency, like a family member in the hospital. Thats a genuinely good reason. Can you give a genuinely good reason why the government should be given this level of invasive power to force the everyday person to comply with their desires? Keep in mind that if you expand their powers in one area then you set precedent for them to expand their powers in similar ways. "public safety" is a bottomless hole. You can restrict anything to any degree with that as a justification, because it is always possible to make things a little safer with yet another acrifice to personal freedom. I am genuinely smarter, better educated, and more moral than the government. Why should they be allowed to impose rules as if they are installed into power by god? I dont know why we keep up the pretense that we live in a democracy when these assholes rule like kings. If it wasnt in their manifesto, then we didnt vote for it. If the public didnt demand it while they were in office, then we didnt consent to it. If they didnt put it to a referendum vote while in office then they dont have a mandate and its not a valid ruling and can be ignored. Dont treat the government like a parent, "Whelp, dad said no, so i guess thats the end of the discussion." Its not the end of the discussion. I am a free person and this is my home, not the inmate of an open air prison to be monitored and locked down.
What is it with people saying this is controlling or bull shit? 1. The speed limiters are there to try and prevent speeding to save lives on the road. This is a good thing. Speeding is a significant cause of accidents on our roads. 2. You can override the limiter by pushing down harder on the pedal. So it's not a hard limiter. So can people just stop whining about it. It's being introduced for a good reason.
@@chappy2121 Sure, but this requires them to do something dangerous and potentially get someone else killed first. Why not try to stop the problem from occurring at all before that? Also, a lot of people will just continue to drive anyway, as a significant number of people are required to drive to get to their place of work due to lack of other reasonable alternatives.
@@m2dat791you won't ever overtake me pal, I drive slowly on purpose, foot down until there is enough oncoming traffic that you can't get past, soon as you get a chance I'm off again. Absolutely love doing over impatient loosers trying to go 32 in a 30
If you want to have a moan about limiters, go right ahead, but please get your facts straight. There is absolutely no mandatory retrofit for used cars. Nothing at all changes for existing cars first registered before this.
From July 2024, all vehicles in showrooms will need to come equipped with Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA) technology. A spokesperson for Motor Match said: "The new rules, set to take effect in July, introduce 'mandatory' speed limiters, changing how we drive on roads. UK cars will have to be 'retrofitted' with new 'mandatory' speed limiter before July 7th. Thats ALL cars that are sold commercially whether they are old or new...
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So glad we packed our bags. In 10 years time the UK people will not know what freedom is.
Mind if I ask where you moved to? This country seems to be really going downhill in the last decade.
cant run forever. the uk wont be the last place to do these things. the whole western world moves in very close circles. got to be like the farmers. they knew those restrictions wouldnt stay in just one country and it didnt.
10 years ago i felt freedom was gone...
We won’t know what white people are either
@@user-yn7ll3qz1p real vibe shift back in 2001, been downhill since then
It's all about control, my friend. Smaller government, less immigration and less taxes are all we need.
Well, the Industrial Revolution is what started this ideology of capitalism & "mass is better." More work meant more help needed from immigrants. Larger population meant a larger government. Larger government meant more taxes. And then technological advances stripped a lot of jobs from humans & high wage demands from Brits caused companies to outsource to other countries for cheap labour. Now that most of the Industrial jobs have left this country, taxes are still high to manage the large population from the immigrants who helped build this country. So yh. This mess as a whole was inevitable. China will be next to crumble. Capitalism isn't sustainable at all & people there are living in cages. Over 90% of their population are Han Chinese, so fairly low immigration rate. But it's only a matter of time before capitalism rips them from the inside out.
Dealerships will go out of business. People will buy private.
True. Never thought of that.
A small percentage will. I'm sure the majority of car buyers will still go through a dealership!
@@Sasquinydont know a single person who's ever used a dealership.. especially nowadays with so many online market places.. only people who use forecourt dealerships are only there for one reason, finance. Spend less buy your car outright and they can swivel.
@@MDM1992 While thats true, most cars sold right now are company cars.. whole fleets of them. From 3 all the way to 50 cars in a single order :D thats why cars are getting so shit, because the regular people just arent buying new cars anymore.
Great to see the UK still implementing EU regulations lol. Fortunately I've used my Irish passport to implement my freedom of movement where I can live in Germany and commute to work at 241 kmph down the Autobahn .
That country that just sent a rape victim to prison for calling her rapist a pig...
yeah have fun there.......
Pay per mile will be next so no need for speed cameras.
We already pay per mile ... it's called fuel duty!
It's a WEF initiative and it's coming in.
Quote:
In effect, the ISA will use a mixture of GPS data and traffic sign recognition cameras, technology already fitted to the vast majority of new vehicles, to determine what the speed limit is down a given road, and then apply varying levels of electronic intervention to encourage a driver to stick to that speed limit.
That doesn’t necessarily mean a hard limiter, and the technology can still be overridden by pressing down harder on the accelerator - a vital safety feature in some driving conditions, so the ISA tech won’t outright prevent people from going above the limit if they need (or want) to.
It's more insidious than just a speed limiter. The device will be required to detect the speed limit. The only reliable way to achive this cost-effectively at the moment is using GPS. Front facing cameras to "read" signs and the data processing hardware to achive a similar result to how Teslas note speed limits is just too expensive and complex to install when compared with a small prossesor, GPS chip and accelerometer.
It's all about even more constant surveillance.
100% correct. Then there's geo fencing and geo limiting. Total enslavement.
Clue is in the name Government screw them and their law
I just returned home to Belgium last sunday and i left Liverpool at 2200hrs to drive to Dover for my ferry at 0600hrs . The drive was terrible most of the way i had to drive at 50 mph thats 80kmh for me on 4 lane motorway without a hard shoulder. I can understand going thru roadworks at 50 mph but a motorway at night with not much traffic . Its just a joke now driving in the UK an lots of pot holes Belgium is also not such a good place to drive ether but i used to enjoy my yearly trip to see family but not anymore.
There's some propper wobblers in this comment section. 😆
If you don't trust yourself with a vehicle that can go over 70, maybe you should stick with an EV that the state can constantly monitor and take control of, for your own good of course.
This is extremely dangerous because speed limits are not all so accurate with gps the amount of times my car has said the road is like 20mph when it sees a sign that says 20 but it’s in a different road it’s madness this country is officially finished
You only need to say no😮
Its time to rebel. Sick of being controlled
Rebel to oblivion and then rinse and repeat. It’s a fact that a group of people simply fail to function properly without an authority telling them what to do.
BS, no speed limiter just notification speed assist.Stop smoking the woodbines.
BS, we alraedy have that... my car my choice.
Unfortunately, he's more or less correct, they will have speed limiters fitted (initially you'll be able to switch it off, but my guess is that'll get dumped after a year or so) also the automatic calling of emergency services in the event of a crash, means that your car is tracked. Stop being so naive.
Its an EU law so why does it bother us ?
Because we're an EU member, we pay in and follow the rules, we just don't receive any of the benefits from membership now, thank the Tories, zero seats.
I'll lay odds that the ability to turn it off will only be available for maybe 2 years to get people use to it, but then they will remove the ability to switch it off
not going to happen a lack of ability to accelerate beyond the limit could cause you your life... imagine the legal battles..
@@Jafmanz tell that to the revenue collectors 😏
@@kevindarkstar I'm telling it to you.
@@Jafmanz I'd noticed, but maybe you should tell it to the revenue collectors 🙄
@@kevindarkstar why don't you tell them i'm not your butler.
ewhat type of speed limiters u talking about because i drove a company van who had 1 at 140km per hourabd that diddnt bother me at all to start with.
For all veichles mate
@@BenVader i mean how whoud they work only limiting the speed or also acceleration
@@TheColehaboIt will probably electronically cut the acceleration when having reached the desired speed.
It has been done before. In Japan the cars were (or still is?) limited to 180 km/h or ~112 mph.
Company vehicles I've driven we're limited to 70mph. Acceleration wasn't affected. They'd get get up to 70mph in the same amount of time but once at 70 it's like hitting a gale force wind coming in the opposite direction and they'd just hold back... @@TheColehabo
@@cunkmusic8748 what u saying they arent even a hinder in driving.
Revenue, and getting ready for BLiar's united nanny states of europe.
won't bother me i drive a 60 year old volvo amazon that can sit at 80 all day and top 100 if i like . modern cars are rubbish anyway
not going to last much longer though is it?
longer than you?
what next?
@@Jafmanz its restored to new condition im a volvo race mechanic
@@BennyGoodmanGoodman well bravo you sir and enjoy it!
And this is the point, why are you going over 70 mph and over taking? Same with lane hogging, that's only a thing because people are speeding, and with the over use of phones in vehicles...., let's slow you lot down so you don't kill a person.
I've got to drive over 70 to get away from the likes of you. 😂
There are plenty of examples of dangerous driving out there where speed isn't a factor. But because the Police only use speeding fines to generate cash they never get dealt with.
Think about it. You cant ban people for life from driving even though it's a privilege...... safety my arse
@@chappy2121 This is crap. Both the idea that speed cameras exist just to generate money, and that that's all the police cares about.
First, the speed camera thing. If the police and the government only put up speed cameras to make money from speeding fines, why are they wanting to introduce the ISA technology at all? Surely you'd just keep the existing system so you could keep making loads of money from speeding fines...?
Also, you don't just get a fine, you get points for speeding, which can get you a ban if you get enough. Surely if they were just out to make money, they wouldn't bother with the points, and they'd just keep all the speeding drivers on the road so they could keep fining them?
Also, you are correct in saying that there are a lot of accidents where speed isn't a factor. But saying these aren't dealt with is untrue. According to Statista, the leading cause of vehicle accidents in the UK is drivers not looking properly. In hundreds of cases, local councils have responded to this by adding signage and changing road layouts to encourage drivers to slow down and look better.
As for reckless and dangerous driving, the police is trying to crack down on it, but I can agree they are not doing enough at the moment. I think that surveillance cameras and dashcams are important to help with this, so that more incidents can be reported to the police, and dealt with.
9 out of 10 accidents are due to over taking 🥴
Don't listen to the clickbait on social media, this isn't what they're doing at all....... Not yet.
However "This little known pedal hack will give you 60% better MPG"
Why would you want your vehicle to exceed the speed limit?
Along as I'm under double I don't care 🚙💨
because nobody asked us if we wanted a nationwide 20mph limit. why do you equate law with morality? they could set the limit to 5mph tomorrow if they wanted to. If there is an emergency then it may be required to go over their arbitrary limits
@@yxcdeb . Not the most sensible of answers, but that’s the internet for you :-)
I was looking for a genuinely good reason for people to exceed the speed limit. Emergency vehicles already can and do.
Couldn't give a fk. If I wanna do a hundred ill do a hundred.
@@WoolyChewbakker What wasnt sensible about them?
Not emergency vehicles. ME in an emergency, like a family member in the hospital. Thats a genuinely good reason.
Can you give a genuinely good reason why the government should be given this level of invasive power to force the everyday person to comply with their desires? Keep in mind that if you expand their powers in one area then you set precedent for them to expand their powers in similar ways. "public safety" is a bottomless hole. You can restrict anything to any degree with that as a justification, because it is always possible to make things a little safer with yet another acrifice to personal freedom.
I am genuinely smarter, better educated, and more moral than the government. Why should they be allowed to impose rules as if they are installed into power by god?
I dont know why we keep up the pretense that we live in a democracy when these assholes rule like kings.
If it wasnt in their manifesto, then we didnt vote for it.
If the public didnt demand it while they were in office, then we didnt consent to it.
If they didnt put it to a referendum vote while in office then they dont have a mandate and its not a valid ruling and can be ignored.
Dont treat the government like a parent, "Whelp, dad said no, so i guess thats the end of the discussion."
Its not the end of the discussion. I am a free person and this is my home, not the inmate of an open air prison to be monitored and locked down.
What is it with people saying this is controlling or bull shit?
1. The speed limiters are there to try and prevent speeding to save lives on the road. This is a good thing. Speeding is a significant cause of accidents on our roads.
2. You can override the limiter by pushing down harder on the pedal. So it's not a hard limiter.
So can people just stop whining about it. It's being introduced for a good reason.
So why not ban people for life who are dangerous? It's a privilege after all..
@@chappy2121 Sure, but this requires them to do something dangerous and potentially get someone else killed first. Why not try to stop the problem from occurring at all before that?
Also, a lot of people will just continue to drive anyway, as a significant number of people are required to drive to get to their place of work due to lack of other reasonable alternatives.
If anything its a good thing if you cant go over the linit they cant fine you.
You seem like the type I person I overtake for going to bloody slow
@@m2dat791you won't ever overtake me pal, I drive slowly on purpose, foot down until there is enough oncoming traffic that you can't get past, soon as you get a chance I'm off again. Absolutely love doing over impatient loosers trying to go 32 in a 30
@@Graes0ns sad existence you got there PAL
@@Graes0ns until someone rams you off the road on false plates and you cant do fuck all about it 🤣
Well you didn't want to be in the EU. Meet the consequences of that.
The EU bloc is owned by the wall kissers and is a full blown dictatorship.
If you want to have a moan about limiters, go right ahead, but please get your facts straight. There is absolutely no mandatory retrofit for used cars. Nothing at all changes for existing cars first registered before this.
Not yet,, give it a week...
From July 2024, all vehicles in showrooms will need to come equipped with Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA) technology. A spokesperson for Motor Match said: "The new rules, set to take effect in July, introduce 'mandatory' speed limiters, changing how we drive on roads. UK cars will have to be 'retrofitted' with new 'mandatory' speed limiter before July 7th.
Thats ALL cars that are sold commercially whether they are old or new...
@@Jafmanz That's just an inaccurate click bait advertorial, and simply not true. The new law only applies to new vehicles.