I took my ELECTRIC CAR for its first EVer SERVICE and was SHOCKED! Prepare yourself for this...

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2023
  • Electric Cars, EV, Electric Vehicles, call them what you like, we are told that they are the future of motoring, we are also told that they are cheaper to run than petrol or diesel internal combustion engine cars. However I believe that isn't the actual reality of EV Ownership. I own an all electric Porsche Taycan and found that with the initial outlay and using public electric charging points driving an Electric Car costs substantially more than running a petrol or diesel car, even charging your electric car at home is now more expensive because of the rising Electricity Prices. I've had my EV now for just over a year and it's due it's first EVer service. So in today's vlog we are going to Porsche Leeds to se just how much it costs and what's involved in servicing an Electric Car.
    #evs #electriccar #electricvehicle #electric #porsche

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  • @lamontwolverton8959
    @lamontwolverton8959 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    95% of all EV’s are still on the road, the other 5% made it home!

    • @davewilson4528
      @davewilson4528 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      They're still on the road waiting for the diesel powered tow trucks to show up and give them a charge so they can make it home.

    • @johnnydoe1984
      @johnnydoe1984 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The other 5% are Chinese made and the fire brigade are still trying to extinguish them after they caught fire !

    • @joelpierce3940
      @joelpierce3940 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      😂😂😂

    • @southernstargazer1951
      @southernstargazer1951 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Love that analogy 😄

    • @davidelrick3131
      @davidelrick3131 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      😂

  • @johnarnell4241
    @johnarnell4241 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    I can't be the only person who has noticed how much customer service has deteriorated in all areas public and private since public sector flu !

    • @matt01506
      @matt01506 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I couldn't agree more. There is no quality or personal help from any company nowadays. I recently dealt with EDF and they would not speak to me so it took over 200 text messages and 10 weeks just to get a simple issue sorted (only simple to fix , not to live with) !

    • @asambrook76
      @asambrook76 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Most people seem to have a vacant stare about them since too.

    • @brummierabbitman9637
      @brummierabbitman9637 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They even ignore freedom of information requests these days. Disgusting

    • @Neil070
      @Neil070 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've sent three emails to one company over the course of a few months. None answered or acknowledged

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall ปีที่แล้ว +7

      40 years of tory misrule, greed is good and devil take the hindmost

  • @ilovesuisse1
    @ilovesuisse1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Life is too short for waiting in a queue to charge a car.

  • @ilovesuisse1
    @ilovesuisse1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I love my fossil fuelled Audi TT Roadster. No moving crematorium for me.

    • @mauricegeake8207
      @mauricegeake8207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I absolutely love driving past the petrol stations and giving them the finger now, as they are charging whatever they feel like for fuel in Australia atm.
      My guess is, that there will always be ICE cars so some extent, no doubt about it, but in time, they will be about as popular as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, but it is only early days yet....just mark my words on this.

  • @gordonhill8164
    @gordonhill8164 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Good to see that the exhaust system and catalytic converter got a green stamp of approval, Also good to see they checked the engine for noise and smoke. That got a green stamp as well. Cam belt was fine.

    • @andrerodriguez7603
      @andrerodriguez7603 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Another smart man who noticed that service was generic for gas engine Porsche. They sure took his money, and laughed all the way to the bank.
      MacMaster needs to watch TH-cam for the difference between a gas car vs a EV mechanically.

    • @user-pf2rx3mj4e
      @user-pf2rx3mj4e 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The vauxhall cavaliers i had all built at Luton and Th and VWs were all crap along with a Bmw 3 series. Opal is not a german firm but was owned by General motors and now own by the french
      A little story that when Opel Cavaliers were being built for export to Japan Detriot said they at to be built in Luton because they had the best build quality in GM Europe. Lets not all fall for the German myth

    • @1ralton1
      @1ralton1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😜Shocking isn't it? I mean, It's totally misleading. I bet a lot of customers wouldn't even know that an EV has none of them. Surely they should put N/A rather than an indication that these none existing items have passed the inspection? Porsche what are you doing?

    • @1crazypj
      @1crazypj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-pf2rx3mj4e I know, that's why I re-built a Vauxhall 2.3 for it. (to make sure everything was in correct place with correct clearances) Getrag gearbox was German though and it had Bosche electrics (back when they were 100% German)

    • @flouisbailey
      @flouisbailey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1ralton1 they passed over them not same as checking. Wife had a great Volvo S60T dealer always commented on thrust bushing….found only on the 4wheel drive models it was front drive.

  • @lupo10
    @lupo10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    £750 for a safety inspection?
    Wow that is scandalous.

    • @andrewjohnson6162
      @andrewjohnson6162 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      £750 to plug a laptop up to the car and hit the enter button. Super difficult waiting the 15 minutes for the update as well. All done in 25 minutes then top up the fluids and jobs a goodun but they will still make you wait 4 hours. Then charge you 4 hours of labour at £150 per hour with £150 for topping off the fluids. It's a bargin at twice the price.

    • @SnaxMuppet
      @SnaxMuppet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But that is Porsche. It isn't that expensive with normal brands

    • @MummaBear
      @MummaBear หลายเดือนก่อน

      This implies it's not safe and needs regular inspecting 😅

    • @john1genius
      @john1genius 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't forget it's hard to get people to risk getting roasted in fireproof suits and carry out the safety check- on what is a potential firebomb - head first underneath the said bomb

  • @cncwizard
    @cncwizard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Let's not forget the 20,000 to 50,000 gallons of H2O it takes to put one out when it bursts into flames for no apparent reason. Nasty chemicals & toxic heavy metals flowing into the water supply the whole time...

  • @jenny6253
    @jenny6253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow that’s insane!! I’m wondering if it’s that expensive for all makes of EV,s. Imagine if you are trying to run a fleet of trucks for transporting essentials and what that will do to prices!! Holly crap!!

    • @flouisbailey
      @flouisbailey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hertz rentals of USA is selling 60,000 used Teslas, wonder why. PS not to be replaced with EVs.

  • @aliengrey6052
    @aliengrey6052 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Anyone who bought into the electric car charade deserves everything they get.

  • @carolyn6001
    @carolyn6001 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I live in the United States. We have a very large country we can drive 3,000+- miles from coast to coast. I generally drive a 1600 mile trip One direction and I can tell you of the thousands of cars I pass I can count on one hand the number of electric vehicles I have seen on each trip. There is no way electric cars can be the future. it's not a sustainable idea. thousands upon thousands of cars, even millions, cannot be replaced with electric vehicles. There are not enough supplies to make the batteries. Pipe dream. there has to be another solution or we're going to keep going along with petroleum products running our automotive industry.

    • @nikex2197
      @nikex2197 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We ARE going to keep going along with petroleum products running our automotive industry. The demand for oil is forecast to increase for at least the next 20 years. Technology is the limiting factor, and no ideology-driven legislation is going to change that fact. The sooner we get off this dead-end road to nowhere, the better.

    • @eddiea3782
      @eddiea3782 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EVs are a joke. Horrible pieces of crap.

    • @theelectricmonk3909
      @theelectricmonk3909 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much nonsense :( It makes me sad - you do zero research, zero fact checking, and spout this sort of bollocks as "fact". Sure, EVs are not quite as convenient as petrol/diesel cars for doing very long distances. Never mind the fact they'll do your daily commute (average in America: 20.5 miles each way) for a whole week on a charge, and even at NY prices, assuming a 100kWh battery that was completely flat, it'll cost less than 25 bucks to "refill". And do another week. How does your gas-guzzling F250 compare eh? (ok, I'll do the maths for you: F250 mpg = 13.4, 41*5 miles/week @ $3.20/gal = nearly $50). So double the price. That 1600 mile road trip? Over $380 in gas alone.

    • @FullFact548
      @FullFact548 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most EVs look like regular gas cars, Carolyn, so how would you know?

    • @FullFact548
      @FullFact548 ปีที่แล้ว

      10.9% of global car sales in 2022 were battery electric vehicles. There is no shortage of materials to make batteries, and battery development is changing at a rapid pace. I'm afraid to say that there is far too much negative and inaccurate reporting in the media, much of it supported by the oil industry 😢

  • @lee4171
    @lee4171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As an old school mechanic. That's more of a vehicle check, than a service. A hilarious piss-take.

  • @julesviolin
    @julesviolin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    ⚠️TOP TIP
    Always write down your requirements in duplicate .
    Leave one in the car and one at reception.
    Never give verbal requests they disappear.
    TOP TIP No2
    Never let main agents do servicing.
    It funds their fancy showrooms.
    TOP TIP No3
    Never buy an EV

  • @chodkowski01
    @chodkowski01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I just took my 2022 Honda Civic in for its 1 year service and they charged me $60.

  • @youtubesucks8995
    @youtubesucks8995 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I cannot believe they can’t get a part for your virtually brand-new car. Just to put that into perspective, I’ve just bought a brand new cigar lighter and housing for my ‘1958’ Ford Fairlane 500!

  • @dangerman01582
    @dangerman01582 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Good video. Just shows how the average person with a mortgage or rent to pay won't be able to even afford the service on an EV

    • @JupiterAscending2
      @JupiterAscending2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      An average person with a mortgage or rent to pay will not buy a Porsche Taycan, an EV that costs over USD$100K to USD$230K. I own/have owned 3 EVs and none of them cost outrageous amount of money to service. In fact, the two full battery electric EVs I have, only need tire rotation once or twice a year, that costs $30.

  • @next0845
    @next0845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’ve got an old 2012 Citroen with a 1.6 diesel engine and low mileage. It cost me £5000 and it does 50 mpg around town!
    When you factor in the cost of buying these electric cars it doesn’t make sense, and when they get as old as my car, you’ll get stung for the huge cost of a new battery.

  • @don-qb4xb
    @don-qb4xb ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Lee I am a mechanic and undertake those service checks on cars I work on. I work in an independent Garage where our costs are much lower than franchised dealerships. I am amazed when a customer shows me an invoice from a main dealer with just how much they charge. As for EVs they have much less to do as they do not have an engine. The dealers are not going to let their revenue slip away so will always find ways to pad the bill. EVs are still relatively a new thing and yes I know how long the Leaf has been around but things will still go wrong as they get older. One thing I have learned after thirty years working on cars is they may be more reliable these days but when they go wrong they cost a lot more to fix. As I started to watch I had a figure of £300 in my head for what was probably an hours work. You have definitely had your trousers well and truly removed.

    • @Dan23_7
      @Dan23_7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I run a 2003 beetle tdi. Service it myself or minor jobs. A mate who’s a mechanic did the cambelt, w/pump, auxiliary and tensioner, so mates rates👍🏼 new cars don’t float my boat but I know when stuff goes wrong it’s ££££.

    • @TheMacMaster
      @TheMacMaster  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      LOL Yes I have a sore behind! Lol

    • @NickyDunn
      @NickyDunn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMacMaster 😁🤣

    • @philnotley5138
      @philnotley5138 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I presume you have to use the main dealerships to keep the warranty valid ? So they can charge what they like really

    • @jonhunter8737
      @jonhunter8737 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Next time,.take some KY with you to ease it in!!!!!

  • @MikeSmith-tx2lp
    @MikeSmith-tx2lp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Got a 2006 Toyota Landcruiser. Washer jet needed replacement, call to parts, ordered and delivered to dealer within 48 hrs. Polite phone call to advise it was available to collect. Wandered down there, through Dubai Hotel standard granite showroom to the parts counter. Apprehended by ‘front desk’ lady who insisted I sat in the plush sofa, got me a coffee and biscuits, and only then proceeded to ask why I was there. A minute later the part and paperwork were handed to me (albeit not on a velvety cushion) and I had a nice chat with the parts guy. Pleasant experience but the cost of all that BS is built into your price. Still, £17.50 for a washer jet for a 17 year old car is fair enough imho. Well done Toyota.

  • @warthogA10
    @warthogA10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What most aren't thinking about.
    If they are ever successful in banning fossil fuels,
    the cost for electricity will absolutely skyrocket dramatically, as well as taxes.
    Because the electric grid will need substantial, multi billions in upgrades,
    which of course won't be figured out until well after the serious problems have revealed themselves,
    and those upgrades will be done in a manner which they are already obsolete by the time they're half way done...
    And all of this is fully intentional.
    People should demand information on politicians etc who are heavily invested financially to all of this, every aspect from mining for materials, to production, to distribution of electricity etc., etc..
    Then maybe people may start to figure things out

    • @edwinthompson6510
      @edwinthompson6510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EVs are a government scam no less

  • @jackcarter66
    @jackcarter66 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    NEVER buy tyres from a main dealer 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @stepheneasson9787
    @stepheneasson9787 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ian, I think the extortionate price you paid for the service is more of a porsche thing rather and what you pay to service most evs. For example a 5 year service plan on an EV6 is £900, that's 5 services and 3 MOTs.

  • @yanikem6655
    @yanikem6655 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Here’s the deal - 1. get everyone onto finance agreements to purchase these expensive EVs. 2. Make it so that you HAVE to get them serviced at approved dealers or your expensive toy’s resale value will be impacted. 3. Once everyone has one of these, they will tell you when and for how long you can drive. 4. They will then use those who are by now heavily in debt on to subscription packages where they will again control access as part of the subscription agreement. They have already warned us - YOU WILL OWN NOTHING…AND YOU’LL BE HAPPY

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Loosen your tinfoil hat, man. You have made a lot of assumptions there.

    • @yanikem6655
      @yanikem6655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carletonrutherford1799 Tinfoil hat??? Ah, that catch-all phrase used by the weak-minded to denigrate the warnings of those who have the clarity of foresight to see through the BS that is coming. Give yourself a shake, stop hiding behind what the media spoon-feeds you and open your eyes. It is already happening. Or look the other way like a coward and ignore what’s coming for our childrens’ future.

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yanikem6655 Seek help dude. But you won't, because you go to conspiracy minded internet echo chambers, full of other smooth brained morons, and you all convince each other that what, EV companies are going to control you, or the government? Or both? Enjoy your paranoid life, dude.

    • @yanikem6655
      @yanikem6655 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carletonrutherford1799 we’re already ‘controlled’, idiot! Can you travel to another country without a passport? Can you draw a pension without identification? Willing control. No point in trying to educate morons like you. Let the media anaesthetise your anxieties. You’re the perfect fuel for those who control weak minds. Goodbye, fool.

    • @johnnydoe1984
      @johnnydoe1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Carleton Rutherford Look up C40 plans ! You'll be buying one (tin hat) yourself then.
      Carleton Rutherford 😎🐑 ?

  • @meremortal5789
    @meremortal5789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Common sense and my location told me EVs weren't my answer. I added a second ICE pickup to my fleet and I'm good for life.

  • @dunebuggymike
    @dunebuggymike 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So what maintenance did they actually do? Was this just an inspection? Most of the items on that list are for ICE cars.
    - alternator belt - You don't have an alternator.
    - antifreeze - You don't have a radiator.
    - cambelt - You don't have a camshaft. Or an engine.
    - clutch/transmission - Does not exist.
    - engine noise/smoke - No engine.
    - exhaust system/catalyst - Does not exist.
    - fuel system - LOL, what?
    - power steering fluid - It has electric power steering.

  • @nickviner1225
    @nickviner1225 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I live in Australia and often drive from Geelong to Brisbane (over 2000Kms)often and you want me to buy something that will go for 400 Km before it stops or I have to queue for hours to recharge.
    My citroen goes for nearly 1000 Km on one tank of diesel. You have to be kidding if anyone thinks this is the future in a big country. It may work if you live in a city but forget it for wide open spaces.

    • @beejons6145
      @beejons6145 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if you was to live in a city a ev bicycle would make a lot more sense, unless your a rich person doing away with cash before the tax man takes it

  • @robertlincoln7312
    @robertlincoln7312 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    So, they charged you £750.00 just to look at your car. Not wishing to be rude but who is the muppet?

    • @harold6863
      @harold6863 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a Master tech, all cars get a free health check, the brakes usually only require replacing when the discs have fully corroded as they never wear out. A diagnostic check and reset electronic handbook is about 5 minutes. The tyre condition, pressures, steering and suspension checks double up with the free EVHC which all dealers of every manufacturer I know do. A few visual checks put it on charge. Yes the EV servicing is a mugs game.

    • @xperyskop2475
      @xperyskop2475 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why I don't service my Leaf. Air filter/cabin filter I can replace myself

  • @13opacus
    @13opacus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hydrogen and synthetic fuels are the future.

  • @mpowa101
    @mpowa101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My father-in-law recently brought a Peugeot 3008 hybrid, and much to his unhappy surprise, it has cost him just over £1100 to insure and just ovet £500 to tax, and for all of this he says that what he gets out of the hybrid part of the car isn't much at all.
    I think that I'll stick to my cheap and cheerful diesel, £30 a year tax, cheap to run, and didn't cost the earth to buy.
    Oh, and thank you for the video, gives yet an insight from another angle to owning and EV, and another reason not to want or own one.

  • @Raylufc
    @Raylufc ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I lost my mother on Saturday and didn't turn on the TV until today, and I watched you and the blond angel eating curry in Mansfield it was the first time I laughed for days thank you

    • @TheMacMaster
      @TheMacMaster  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ❤️ Sorry for your loss.

    • @Raylufc
      @Raylufc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheMacMaster as I am for the loss of your wonderful mother

  • @richardneale246
    @richardneale246 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My 12 year old diesel VW Golf passed its MOT emission test OK again. 66 M.P.G. £30 a year road tax. E.V. has to "up its game" before I can see it as a serious alternative. Thanks Lee for showing exactly what is involved with owning an E.V. No more Fish and Chips for awhile mate !!!!!!!!!

    • @Supraboyes
      @Supraboyes ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah but if you buy a EV it will save you money, no road tax no services... Just caugh up 50k to start saving. 🤪. Yeah I'd stick with the golf mate, I've got a 10 year old pug and a 30 year old Toyota, it's cheaper for me to service both every year than to go buy a EV.

    • @winstonsmith935
      @winstonsmith935 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will be mandated by 2030 to dispose of your Diesel, You are an obedient slave of the UN

    • @robertsmith2956
      @robertsmith2956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do they do for inspections if you drop a gas engine in the porsche? or an electric engine in a gas car for that matter. How to you plug the exhaust to check for leaks it it has no exhaust?

    • @iway002
      @iway002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is why they call them the poor mans Mercedes Benz!!

  • @tokairic3925
    @tokairic3925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Whar is the Porsche labour rate? I was a mechanic (:"technician?") a long time ago and I didn't believe that people would happily pay £25 per hour for someone to change their oil and filter, then do a series of safety related checks that pretty much anyone could do. Now its nearer £70 per hour for the same kind of service. Incredible - but what do Porsche charge? to plug in a diagnostic machine.

  • @BRM101
    @BRM101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Basically a quick check over and check tyre pressures £750 wow 😬

  • @thematlockbiker
    @thematlockbiker ปีที่แล้ว +224

    EV’s - an unworkable solution for a nonexistent problem

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yay! Lets continue to burn russian oil for the benefit of mankind! Burn Baby Burn!

    • @sambrooks7862
      @sambrooks7862 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 or let's burn Russian gas to supply the enormous demand for electricity created by these ridiculous overpriced golf buggies.

    • @BudahOfBirmingham
      @BudahOfBirmingham ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No problems apart from killing 30,000 people a year in the uk. That’s an nhs figure. Then there are oil spills like in the Gulf of Mexico, tankers spilling oil, refineries blowing up

    • @davidgapp1457
      @davidgapp1457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, I had my 911 serviced six weeks ago. No change from $5,800. Truth is, you buy from a luxury brand, you end up with exotic pricing when your car gets serviced. By comparison my RAV4 Prime? Well, I have no idea as I took the extended warranty, but computing based on the price of the extension, around $300 a service.
      😊

    • @sambrooks7862
      @sambrooks7862 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@BudahOfBirmingham well if it's an NHS figure you know it's a lie.

  • @robocowone464
    @robocowone464 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Everybody is always saying that electric cars don't have anything to service. That's simply not true. You have coolant, gear oil, brake fluid, cabin air filters, etc. You say you don't hardly use the brakes, but some times that does more harm than good. Parts need to be used to keep them from corroding and freezing up. What nobody wants to talk about is the fact that EV'S are much heavier than ICE vehicles. That weight is extremely hard on tires and suspension components. All that needs to be checked. The principals of an electric car are simple, but the reality is they are extremely complex systems that most people can't work on themselves even if they wanted to.

  • @caitlyn9391
    @caitlyn9391 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't want are trust getting an eV. There is no way to charge at home. Also all the fires and short range. I'll wait to see how the new hydrogen cars work out

  • @ChrisPopham
    @ChrisPopham 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The smart metre in your house is able to see if your charging a vehicle so that means you will soon be taxed like any other fuel you use
    the whole thing is a scam

    • @mikebilsborough765
      @mikebilsborough765 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How does it know electricity is going into a car as opposed to say a home battery?

    • @ChrisPopham
      @ChrisPopham 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikebilsborough765 I don’t know, I’m not an electrician. In fact far from it, I thought it was widely known that the smart meter in the house can detect all sorts of different devices,
      I suppose it wouldn’t be too hard to identify a specific electric drawer rate signature?

  • @bobyearley5088
    @bobyearley5088 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sticking with my V8 Aston Martin. Before the "Holier than thou", lefty loonies get involved i rarely use it so very low emissions. i have other vehicles and motorbikes to use. Not electric but low emission. I also have nothing against small electric cars for the city. But I believe each to their own!

  • @rogerhudson2814
    @rogerhudson2814 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's not that EV servicing is expensive, it's PORSCHE! servicing that's expensive , especially at main dealerships. Ex 911 owner.

  • @alanc286
    @alanc286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You may also wish to be aware that according to your service bill states that the dealership replaced your N/S (passenger) rear tyre which was originally a Pirelli 305/30/21 with a Pirelli 265/35/21. So you may have a mismatch set of tyre on the rear, as the offside rear still has a Pirelli 305/30/21.

  • @happysnapperman
    @happysnapperman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That's more than it costs for a full service on my 2009 Hyundai coupe which is a daily driver.

  • @JustLiveInPeace2
    @JustLiveInPeace2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tyres made up the £750.06. They showed as being approx 60% worn and were flagged as Amber.
    That bill also showed Total Identified Work as £750.06, Total Declined Work as £750.06 and no price next to Total Completed Work.
    I also note they list Engine Noise, Exhaust system and Fuel System as items checked.
    Sorry but I'm a little confused by this.

    • @Wdeane1957
      @Wdeane1957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, they puzzled me too. Charging to check non existing components.

  • @paulpaintshop103
    @paulpaintshop103 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    EVs an Impractical solution to an Imaginary problem.

    • @tabcobra
      @tabcobra ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said! I say they’re just a novelty.

    • @mikewendeln5218
      @mikewendeln5218 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said.

    • @originaldcjensen
      @originaldcjensen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The electric car is a solution to a real future problem. If we were to wait until the atmosphere is polluted beyond our tolerance and etc. Every product has an introductory period before they are more efficient. We are doing the legwork BEFORE the crisis point for a change.

    • @blazeboyblazeboy4470
      @blazeboyblazeboy4470 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow!! Best quote I've seen long time!!!

    • @blazeboyblazeboy4470
      @blazeboyblazeboy4470 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@originaldcjensen at one point in time, so.much carbon was lost from the atmosphere the earth froze covered in the ice age. Do research instead of.parroting. lack of carbon atmospheric changes can also bring the wrong outcome u are looking for in ur utopian world.

  • @Rockinthehill
    @Rockinthehill 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Turns out that most folks range anxiety is not just a non issue. They are way more expensive, more expensive to repair, not enough charging stations that work and will leave you stranded if you dont constantly watch your range ALL THE TIME. Screw that.

  • @davidmilledge221
    @davidmilledge221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The future is always combustion engines and making them more efficient 💯👌

  • @ianthomas1060
    @ianthomas1060 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    £750 to service that?
    £750 for 2 tyres?
    Someone is doing well.
    Great Vid Lee!

  • @martinbootneck
    @martinbootneck ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've had electric cars for years, my Scalextrix was all electric. EV, AV, VD, FU, no ta I'm sticking with my DB5, it may be old
    but it was my dream car and Ive had it for 45yrs now and NOBODY is going to take that away from me.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know who will take it away from you. Master Death.

    • @shingerz
      @shingerz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said 👍

  • @jamescohen5200
    @jamescohen5200 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    why would they check the computer when it checks itself and self reports

  • @ashleymoore9063
    @ashleymoore9063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    50% depreciation in the first two years enormous service charges high cost of charging whilst on the road unsailable after 4 years due to battery concerns and a risk of fire at any time that will demolish your house within 5 minutes whilst you sleep. Why wouldn't you buy an Eevee

    • @josefeibl8230
      @josefeibl8230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Personal experience or just regurgitating what you hear?

  • @refuztosay9454
    @refuztosay9454 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    750 just to put it up on a lift and look around. You’ve been ripped off my friend.

  • @scottiopizza7565
    @scottiopizza7565 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm a retired auto technician, and looking at that sheet of work performed....I just hope they gave you a cigarette after that!

  • @1000adstar
    @1000adstar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Looking at your check list most items are either nothing items, or items for petrol/diesel cars. Looks like a stitch up mate.

  • @philipuren3857
    @philipuren3857 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    ...checking under the car for bumps and scrapes - thats my biggest worry for an EV. Have a look under any car and see how many bumps and scratches are under the average vehicle (I worked as a mechanic for a Holden dealership for 4 years). Even cars one year old have bumps and scratches underneath - speed bumps, potholes, the occasional gutter.
    Given that the battery is under the floor of all EVs there's going to be a lot of tears from EV owners.

  • @zeroone5097
    @zeroone5097 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wouldn't touch an EV with a barge pole

  • @johnnyb8629
    @johnnyb8629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    PORSCHE, that's why. Its a car company designed around separating rich people from their money. Now they just do it more efficiently and without as big of a carbon footprint.

  • @fredclarke801
    @fredclarke801 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why did you buy it? Don't forget it should be cheaper to charge because of 'cheap' renewable energy. NOT!
    I guessed the bill @£1,500. Spot on!

  • @pauldiab944
    @pauldiab944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I didn't see them list the Vaseline used on the price list, or did they just go in there dry?

  • @caver38
    @caver38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The biggest problem with all electric cars will be the cost and maintance of all the charging points , the new generating stations that will be needed and the poulltion it will generate . The ecological costs of going all electric will be enourmous

  • @ashbohgan2022
    @ashbohgan2022 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always buy old cars. There cheap to run nd parts are cheap too..
    I service my own car. The clutch is going now. My friend going to fit for me in his back yard.
    He doesn't want money. As he say I've helped him nd he's helping me.
    New cars a good to look at but they are only used for 10 % of the day if not less.
    If a car get me from A/Z. That's all that matters.

  • @hughmuir3063
    @hughmuir3063 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The garage probably said ''well we have to charge you something so we'll go by a percentage of what you paid for it, does that sound fair'' ?!!!

  • @pamelamitchell8789
    @pamelamitchell8789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    We need our car to be able to tow our caravan , works trailer or our motorcycle trailer . Electric cars don't seem to be able to do it, weight reduces milage, ( as well as running a radio, heater, lights electric windows etc ) !

  • @steverose8633
    @steverose8633 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lee, If you can afford a Porche, you can afford the service. I see in 2025 all EV's will have road tax implemented.

  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They had to rotate the blinker fluid and change the filter. The prop wash was also dirty and needed the timing adjusted.

    • @rogerringold616
      @rogerringold616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Need metric grid square replacement for the gps modulator resevoir.

    • @Absaalookemensch
      @Absaalookemensch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerringold616 Is that every 12 persecs.

  • @Richard-ys2ns
    @Richard-ys2ns 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm just waiting for home insurance companies increase their policy prices for people who have EV's or hybrids parked in the garage or near the property.
    May actually suggest it to them 🤣

    • @jellybean1976928
      @jellybean1976928 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah, the corporations are in on the agenda. So you are right that premiums will increase, but they will just make all of us suffer by subsidising the EV "liability".

  • @RobertArrowsmith
    @RobertArrowsmith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I only subcribed because your views are hilarious.
    My first EV has never been serviced..after 4 years. It now needs a well known fault fixed but runs great.

  • @speccyiiii7677
    @speccyiiii7677 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Makes you think that politicians and others in the know have invested heavily in EV technology and are now feeling a bit flat that they haven't made them as much money as they thought they would! Makes you think that if the voters don't fall in line with their wishes that you purchase an EV they will mandate you to do so...

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now it seems the only places to get service for electric autos are the dealers. The most expensive places to do so plus the monopoly power grows reducing service and raising costs.

  • @Peter-yg7ze
    @Peter-yg7ze 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You can legally tell which car you have and which neighborhood, but it may be inappropriate in some countries to tell exactly which individuals are the problem. .
    Tell as much as possible to insinuate clearly!
    Here in Sweden, I bought a used car, the car salesman mismanaged his duty to inform about the condition of the car.
    My luck is that we have a consumer purchase law that is not to be trifled with, the car salesman pretended not to know it that well but with the printout almost shoved down his throat he was forced to change brake parts, EGR valve , glow plugs and a little else. . . It cost the entire profit on that car and probably a bit more ;-)

  • @bryanbufton4358
    @bryanbufton4358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your taking the financial kick in the bollox so well, the best i ever had from my Chevrolet aveo diesel was touched 80 mpg, average short trips 50 to 55 and zero road tax,

  • @carl9976
    @carl9976 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Daylight robbery if you ask me. It’s not even a service because nothing was changed.. it’s £750 for an inspection. 🤑

  • @navelriver
    @navelriver 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    EV in for service, they plug in diagnostic machine, a bunch of green lights come on, looks good, 750 please!

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It doubles if a light comes up red.

    • @markmark5269
      @markmark5269 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5 x EVs over 8 years, have 3 at the moment, I change diff oil and their cabin filters once a year in them, 20 mins and a few bucks. PS: Not a Porsche ...

  • @peter12803
    @peter12803 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My Ram1500 Laramie 5.7L hemi is the best vehicle I ever owned for driving in rural Canada. My conscience is clear. Check out the good things about lithium.

  • @waynehewett4017
    @waynehewett4017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You hear about the tesla driver who scrapped the battery shield a bit , took it in to get repaired and got handed a 60 grand bill as they stated the battery could be damaged
    Yes the car was scrapped
    So much for recycling and saving the planet?

    • @colinnicols5387
      @colinnicols5387 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here in Vancouver area an ionic had the exact same issue.

  • @adventtrooper
    @adventtrooper ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd be asking why the nearside tyres have worn so much faster than the offside.

  • @ddognine
    @ddognine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In the US, used ICEs are expensive while used EVs are basically junk. I have an '05 Camry with over 200k. It's not a looker, but I still get unsolicited offers for it.

  • @bertiesworld
    @bertiesworld หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hate to say this but every time you take any car in for service, you need to have taken out a bank loan beforehand. Last MOT, I got told the dust cover on the suspension arm ball joint had deteriorated. Cost to sort £496!!!! Yeah, right on. I'll be paying my local friendly garage a visit (they service the wife's car) to see how much they would charge. The ball joint itself, with the dust cover, comes in at less than £30. But you buy a Porsche, like Apple, you pay their inflated prices. Maybe your local garage would have been much cheaper.

  • @brianmorris8045
    @brianmorris8045 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I live in Australia, and the distance between Adelaide and Sydney is quite vast...in my petrol car, I can be in Sydney if I start at 8pm, on the first day, by next evening...that is taking it easy staying in a cabin overnight. If I'm in an EV, most of the I could be travelling time would be wasted on charging. When I say I want to be somewhere at a certain time and day, I want to do just that! Not dictated to by some car that has to hope there is a charging station within 200 k's distance. And I'm not going to let some latte sipping dumb greenies dictate to me I have to by an EV. I have just paid this car off after 5 years...am not buying another car for sometime.

  • @terrygee210
    @terrygee210 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    £750 for a bunch of visual inspections, and they couldn't even empty the boot to check the spare?

  • @willallen7757
    @willallen7757 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Considering that price does not include any oil, transmission fluid or filters it's absolute highway robbery.

  • @guyski666
    @guyski666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    all German car companies rip you off on service - but it is good to know that your cambelt and driveshaft are good - since an electric car doesn't have them

  • @JohnLee-mq4hk
    @JohnLee-mq4hk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The more electronic a car becomes the less we can service a car it ourselves, not good for our pockets.

  • @WayneM1961
    @WayneM1961 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In my humble opinion, every motorist up and down the country needs to lobby their MP and oppose the 2030 ban on new car sales of petrol and diesel engines. The infrastructure needed in the way of charging points is never going to be in place by 2030. Our next car is going to be the E-power Qashqai Tekna. This interesting concept uses a petrol engine ONLY to charge the car, at all times the electric motor powers the wheel. Not only will these give much improved MPG figures it will also noticeably cut down on exhaust emissions and again, in my opinion, that's about as far as the UK is ready to go with all electric as we stand here in 2023. If we are ready for all electric by 2030 then I'll stand corrected.

  • @eddieleong6490
    @eddieleong6490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love my pedal bicycle for short distances. Only need to pump the tyres once a week. ha ha

  • @janicecopeland9083
    @janicecopeland9083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Anyone that buys/lease an EV deserve everything they get. Most got them to say "I'm better than you" 🤣🤣😂😂👌👌

    • @presidentxd
      @presidentxd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ya can't budget for stupid

  • @iandunn4722
    @iandunn4722 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How long will the cheaper overnight tariff on electricity last when everyone is charging their EVs at home overnight, answer me that one

    • @jjbiggmann5576
      @jjbiggmann5576 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FOREVER. OR AT LEAST TILL PEOPLE STOP SLEEPING AT NIGHT.....WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

    • @boogboog8097
      @boogboog8097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are all the chargers going to be? I live in a city there is no possibility that the grid could even support the chargers its all complete bs

  • @n0w3lly90
    @n0w3lly90 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I imagine most of the costs are associated with the fact these are now exceedingly expensive planned obsolesence goods and a laptop on wheels ? You know: Taycan 1.0,.2.0,.3.0 with incremental tech and range improvements! I plan to buy petrol cars for as long as I possibly can frankly

    • @jackwatsonepic626
      @jackwatsonepic626 ปีที่แล้ว

      The extortionate cost is for the badges what they where on their uniform as well as all that nice deca , it all has to be paid for these dealership garages have been getting away with it for decades , £10:200 for a push-bike
      bloody hell I didn't buy my first house for that price back in the early noughties 🇬🇧

    • @jackwatsonepic626
      @jackwatsonepic626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In decades to come when 80% of people have electric vehicles
      The government will then hold , you to ransom
      ; watch this space .

  • @grathy1
    @grathy1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They checked the cambelt!!? Why did you change tyres with over 4mm on them.

  • @johnlewis5663
    @johnlewis5663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hell they saw you coming, I've had three services on my Kia EV and none of them cost over £200.

  • @stanleystone8636
    @stanleystone8636 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So each tyre cost £350 and lasted 20,000 miles. I have just replaced tyre {Bridgestone} on my Sorento after 42,000 miles for £157. Am i missing soemthing?

  • @CBR2200
    @CBR2200 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree with your premise that EV's aren't the future, but that price for service at a Porsche dealer seems about what I would expect. Expensive cars are expensive to maintain at expensive dealers. No surprise there.

  • @-EC002-
    @-EC002- ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I suspect that most of the "service" was done in 10 minutes on a laptop!

  • @Checklight66
    @Checklight66 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    750 GBP to basically scan the car, and walk under it with a flash light. I have to actual work when I service my customers cars. The print out looks like the BMW ISTA diagnostic system screen shot. It was what I expected, though. The bloke at the service counter, is an artful story teller, it's what he gets paid for. I know about this line of work as I used to have to write artful repair reports to get paid by the manufacturer for warranty work for the dealership I used to work for.

  • @alwynsmit3546
    @alwynsmit3546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Imagine a species so arrogant that it thinks it can somehow control the weather

  • @granhellosyan
    @granhellosyan ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You leased a Porsche so you should expect to pay through the nose, if you wanted cheap there are plenty of other makes which are cheaper. Pity you didn't do due diligence and find out the charges prior to the lease.

  • @keithbuckley3220
    @keithbuckley3220 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Porsche - Merc - Audi all cost double the standard rates for servicing. Volvo consider the car is always theirs and you are not allowed to do thing without checking with them first. For god sake bring back cars which don't have to rely on computers to open glove compartments and screens of information large enough to take you mind off driving, and with nowhere to charge electric vehicles without a long wait.

  • @David-fj5lz
    @David-fj5lz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Will engineer now refuse to service a car which could electrocute or burn them horribly ?

  • @christopherruff4938
    @christopherruff4938 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am in Australia and what horrifies me aside from the service costs is the degrading of customer service. When you buy a car worth the money you are paying one does not drop the keys in a box. That seems to be the norm now.

  • @steverichdrummr
    @steverichdrummr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm not positive, but it looks to me like besides from an underside visual check which is very important, that "check" printout is just right out of the cars computer telling the dealer everything is Ok. Likely took one minute to generate that report. just my thoughts.

  • @charlesjones7404
    @charlesjones7404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    £1500 including 2 tyres, so that's £375 per tyre. Are they the special gold wall tyres?

  • @puma51921
    @puma51921 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just wait when around 90,000 miles, you need to replace your battery. The average cost is $25,000

    • @timbrown9305
      @timbrown9305 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

    • @CliveSmithy
      @CliveSmithy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not sure which battery capacity this Porsche has, but why would the battery need replacing at 360 cycles???

    • @RebelsInc969
      @RebelsInc969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Hyindia Ionic 5 battery pack is $56,000

    • @CliveSmithy
      @CliveSmithy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RebelsInc969 that is a news story currently where a Hyundai dealer that stated that because the battery protection pan had some minor scratches to it, the battery on the Ionic 5 needed replacing and quoted the guy $26k.. The owner then asked his insurance to get involved - as it would be accident damage and the same dealer then quoted the insurance $56K.
      There was nothing about the damage that suggested the battery was actually damaged and Hyundai Canada has told all of its dealer network that its technicians need to be involved in future

  • @leoguy1609
    @leoguy1609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Here in the states, there's been a cold spell where temps have dropped below -65 Fahrenheit or -53.88 Celsius. Were dead electrical vehicle all over the place and at that temperature? You can watch how quickly your batteries goes from full to dead in no time.