402k Mile VS 69k Mile E55 AMG dyno battle.Then One Broke.
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Dyno Battle between a 2006 E55 AMG with 69,000 miles and a 2003 E55 AMG with a crazy 402,000 miles. How much horsepower can a car with 402k make? Is this old dog up for the challenge?
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I made an update to this video after fixing it. Check it out!
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I wish people were a bit more honest. I was looking at the e55 with the 402k miles to purchase it and the transmission is toast.Why not mention this in your video. Also its not all original as you state in your video, I have the carfax right now on hand.The transmission was replaced and its toast again. Dont lie to people and make these videos! Anyone that doesnt believe me i will email you.
LegitStreetCars they actually made these in manual trans ?
LegitStreetCars it's good you updated the video, but I don't really appreciate having to watch a 10-minute video to find out you didn't Dyno the car without problems.
@davidguzman he specifically uses the words original engine in the video. He says nothing about the transmissions condition
Metric plz!
Dude, so I watch a 9min video to find out nothing... you should post this up only once you have the result 69k v 400k, otherwise it's a waste of time.
AB A thanks for the comment. Saved me from wasting my time
It does not even matter if the difference is over 300k miles.
The difference is , how it has been used , by whom and what maintenance was done.
Without watching the video , and assuming a 400k miles , one (car-loving) owner , and good maintenance , the car will have about same or exactely the same amount of hp/torque than new from factory.
On the other hand an abused , multiple owned, 65k miles car with no decent maintenance , will most likely not even come close to 75% of its original power output.
IwillBwaiting, I agree with your points about who owned the car and how it was maintained, and that, that will make a difference to the hp/torque/engine of the car.
I would be curious to find out however, if a very high mileage well maintained car would still have the same power, as a identical low mileage well maintained car.
Common sense would say that all the engine elements would be worn out much more in the high mileage car, thus the engine output would be worse. Question is, how much worse... etc...
Common sense should tell you that abuse will change the state of anything.If the use is normal and regular , even after 10 years or with 400k miles , its power will be in the same or almost same condition.
If 5 drivers use a car for 5 years and they all do a mileage of about 12.500 miles per year , but one will shift at 2000 rpm , one will shift at max rpm the other at 1500 rpm....etc etc..One will floor it every time he/she gets the chance...the other might go like a snail....every year the car will have to get used to different styles , and that will break a car.
I know many people who rather buy a car which has done up to 5 times the average mileage in a shorter time period then buy an older car with less mileage.
Reason : the car with the high mileage has probably been a (one owner) salesman's car and used mainly to cover great distances , and most times under contract has had proper maintenance.
The pther car will have less mileage but might have had 3-4 owners , all with different styles , and maybe not all the proper maintenance done...
Oh , btw , I am not a mercedes fan , although I do like some of the models , but this engine is truly great , and very reliable , but nothing lasts forever...
Rewatching these videos when Alex was starting up makes me so happy of how far he has come and all the knowledge he has given me. Thanks Alex!
They make around 450 to 470hp at 6100 rpm
@3 name changes allowed every 90 days. ok bro
I just replaced that pump on my E55. Intake air temps while simply driving around town were dangerously high (170-180F) before changing the pump. There's no check engine light or any system that will tell you if this pump has failed - just seriously degraded performance. Those 170-180F numbers were on days with 70 degree ambient air temps. Changing the pump brought down the baseline intake temps to about 110-120F, and suddenly I have 100 more horsepower when I decide to beat on it... Critical item on the M113K engine that is very often overlooked...
402k miles! That's crazy
James Friedman you call that crazy? Come over here in Denmark and see! I saw an old 2013 Mercedes Benz Vito 116 on a car selling website and it HAS 465.000 miles on it and it’s listed for almost $40.000!!!
Now that is what you call crazy!!!
In Holland my dad has a 2012 s class with 800000 km its a taxi sinds then
And totdat we bought a tesla model s100D
Its a Mercedes-Benz...
Crazy that this is amg. Modern amg got broken on 50-100k miles
Golf to sjebe kao od šale, zameniš ulje i idi dalje
the supercharger whine so sweeeet.
Lets get this amg to 600k miles my cls55 just hit 83k and my maintenance been on point ready for 600whp
I would love to have just half the $$ spent on that one to get it to 400k. I could retire..and buy my own island..
Damn that car went around the world like 20 times
That's a joke right? The earth is flat
@@jordanturner97 why you so stupid
@@kristogurma8937 r/woosh
i have become obsessed with older, high mileage AMG's. I think the m113 engine was a highly underrated yet durable beast that still has lots of untapped potential. I really look forward to the next video.
Brian Carroll Thanks so much for watching. Ya the 113 is one of my favorites. Most Mercedes techs agree it's a great engine
Brian Carroll Yes; it is mechanically simpler and rather "overbuilt."
The older inline 6 m104 is far superior. That and the 2jz have very similar bottom ends and both will take 600hp plus reliably stock
I just dynoed my Honda civic, mugen cams, spoon exhausts, kpro ecu, garret gt35 turbo charger.. It made 1hp, and minus-6ft/lbs of torque, I'm actually quite proud I have the most powerful Honda ever made.
Still will love to show you my 03 E500. I am here in Chicago with you :-)
As a e55 owner there cars are truly long lasting powertrain is bulletproof. Weak points are cooling and airmatic suspension as they tend to leak. First thing i did was went with kw v2 coilovers and upgraded cooling before i went with upper and lower pulleys. My stock put down 409rwhp and 456trq. after upgrades it did 533rwhp and 577trq on 93oct. They will take all the abuse that you can throw at them there is no on ramp that i won't go all out i love these cars
nawzy202 which part of the cooling system is the weak point
What upgrades did you make to the e55
Just noticed how close to 1,000,000 views this video is.
"Most importantly. ..they're both silver". Yeah, if you ever decide to compare HP rating of 2 cars, don't worry about then having exact motors, transmissions or gear ratios...but definitely make sure they are identical in color...Makes all the difference. Matching color is after all most important.
You have to have the same color. The black ones add like 32 horsepower at least, haha.
Thanks for watching. There is an update to this video too
I think they were joking
Just guessin u know
eduardo salles and i think he was being sarcastic
Big B Yeah ofc...for example red racing stripes are like +500 hp minimum
Big B lol
Before you watch this, dislike and click another video from another uploader. You do not find out how much it makes.
Very cool. That's neat how the SC won't play unless it's temp is comfortable.
Bring that race quickly :). Can't wait
Been watching you for a long time and I don't know how I miss this video!
Damn, my s55 AMG has 230k miles and it still runs smooth.....
What did you expect? It has 402k miles obviously it's not gonna work as a brand new car, it has a waste of too many use, so the power will be less than the other E55 with less mileage
I’ve seen the thumbnail of this video a million times and I always thought it was a hoovie video lol
Great video, subscribed. Looking forward to more AMG videos.
Thanks, stay tuned
Alex, I've got 478,000 kays on my 1994 W124 Merc. E280 & it's still in pristine condition. I like the AMG V8's but their 1994 DOHC 6 is awesome. Seeya from Australia.
y not just do a drag race?
Nigel Bailey because in a drag race are other aspects important too. Reaction time, the start... On Dyno you can see the exact power difference
Finally found a dyno place right by where i live 🤘
My mother in law has an 06, with only 52000 miles on it, and wants me to have it. I'm just not looking forward to the billion dollar maintenance.
John Politano your still lucky
Sell it to me
Maintenance is not too bad................for someone who works on their own car. A few hundred bucks here and there for an older model, and some SSTs (special service tools) will keep those tires smoking and a smile on your face. If you plan on taking it to the shop, then forget it.
Were is ur shop located
If it’s free it’s for me 🤷🏽♂️
Hey man I like your channel! Putting you on my recommended channels. I drive an 06 E55 daily, love these cars. Line 'em up! Looking forward to your new videos!
samspace81 Thanks so much. Appreciate you watching. more to come for this car and some other cool AMG cars
samspace81 Nice, I didn't even know that and I watch your videos. Owner of a W220 myself.
sweet. Thank you!!
In a world of people wanting instant gratification, I thought this was an interesting video. 😊
Thanks Andy, many were disappointed. I did make an update video showing the car back on the dyno fixed up. Check it out.
Alex
came here from WP but I have a stupid question. seems like the 06' at 2:18 wanted to break loose from Dyno and spinning the tires !?!? and only putting out 380 whp ? and the car weighs how much ? something is not making sense correct me if I'm wrong but seems like more power than what your saying
The limiter was preventing full power. The E55 makes 415whp in good conditions and 450wtq+ on Mustang Dyno. The spinning is most likely from the tiny stock 265 rear tires that these cars have.
Jam Jar Mustang dynos always read low.
Also, I forgot to mention that he was letting the car kick down rather than keep the car in gear and build speed, making the wheels spin. The important thing is that I don't he had the car in dyno mode which means he got an incorrect reading.
I call BS here... 1st run of the 2003 was totally normal, if the SC clutch disengaged it will not just re-engage during the run and put out 300+ hp. my pump went out before. may have gone out after the 1st run but not during.
Major Cocklikar Acoolant pump beginning to fail doesn't automatically shut off the super charger. What you saw was in the first run the iats were high enough to reduce timing and thus power but not high enough to shut off the blower. second run the iats were so high it just turned it off completely
LegitStreetCars mine either shut off completely or was on, no reduction in power or timing beforehand, I'm not buying it, 50hp reduction in power with 402k miles seems about right to me, we should as +Ben Rawcliffe what he thinks.
Major Cocklikar LegitStreetCars
SC system shuts down (dis. clutch) at 200F IAT and at -39F IAT.
I know the upper and lower limit as: A) I had a bad pump (CM30 replacement) B) I had a failing IAT sensor that thought I was in the arctic. In B, the car would engage the starter and crank for the full duration (10sec I think), then start on the second try after a few cranks, then spit out some smoke (as it obviously was tricked to think it was getting -41C air (the lowest reading from the failing IAT sensor)
Check the records for a radiator replacement they are common to leak into the transmission fluid on the 2003.
Good stuff Alex.
This is the first ever legitstreetcar video I saw
*names all details of the cars at the beginning and then says "And most importantly! They're both silver!" Lmfao
Looking forward to the race video
bolawdean Me too!
Still waiting for this video to appear. Please sort this for us.
Good, informative, BRIEF video that gets to the point. Thank you!
Other car hosts try so hard to be funny or constantly grin at the camera to prove they are fun dudes.
It too often gets in the way of good info.
Here we have issue, diagnosis, solution with a bit of education. And best of all, interesting info with no blatant egotism.
Well done!
Nice numbers on the 2003 dude.
To everyone saying it's a waste of time:
It's a waste of time either way. Why the fuck do you want to know which one wins? Do you have a stake in the matter? Fuck no.
You're spending your time on entertainment. You don't go to the movies and say "it needs to end this way or it's a waste of time".
Just enjoy the damn video and chill tf out.
My dad was glad his e55 Amg lasted till 147k he just wished it hit 150
awesome comparison
4th gear is good for 185 mph so unless its been delimited you must Dyno then in 3rd , otherwise you cannot go to Redline.
U missed the ultimate funny number... 69,420
wait what did he say 569 horsepower wow if he did. then man that's impressive
402k miles and the owner failed to replace the only weak part on the car, which only cost $100!
They are rated at 475 hp. At less than 400 hp I would consider that engine to be broken. I would be shocked to hear that the ratings were taken at the crank. No manufacturer has done that since about 1971. Umm right? Please comment.
It went in to LIMP MODE and you need to wait a few minutes too let it cool down
Please do a c32 amg video!
Very cool video. I love it
Kudos to you for maintaining this vehicle
I have two cars benz w 115 and 123
Both vehicles do not run very badly
The w 115 car was the official car used by the world’s first prime minister
My dream is to get those 2 cars running
It is not easy
The politicians of sri lanka have stolen the national economy and the whole country is in debt to the world
The country is now being run by IMF and world aid
Everything is taxed
Just breathing is not taxed
I have seen benz cars abandoned in some countries which are in the best condition
Both my cars have about 60% damage to the bumper
Recovery is difficult
If you have the body of the w 115 or 123 cars in you possession, I would be grateful if you could provide me with the body of those cars.
Also, if there is any possibility to help me in making these two cars, I would be grateful
Sorry if there was a mistake……
I am also a person who loves benz cars…………………
absolutely correct sir you charger went into limp... your lucky it was only the cooler pump my main pulley separated on the dyno! 7k later car is sold.
HighPsiS13 yeah but the first run with the 03' was not in limp mode , you can here the difference night and day.
2:25 I hope you had the coffee can in both cars
That white supra in the background tho....
what they got on the lift behind you though, hmm looking nice not sure but maybe a Regal
Interesting video, you earned yourself a sub.
HBH Thanks so much!
LegitStreetCars Well, you deserve it.
That is one tiny tiny fan...
Sure nice of Chris Evans to stop by and help out with the test
They still are unable to sale that car. The asking price is insane
I remember reading about this on oversteer...
"I do videos like you just saw" well count me out then.
I feel sorry for whoever buys that car from that dealership
i feel sorry for whoever watched this video
Dung Vu i feel sorry for u watching this video lol
I’ll tell you what’s wrong:)There is No Mercedes Benz with 400+ miles and still driving like Toyota 😎
martin samek to true got a lexus ls430 1 owner all good after 130000
Greg Cressey i have a 05 ls430 190,000 bought at 120,000 zero maintenance 3 oil changes and still rollin!!! Ls430 4 life😎
the first run on the 2003 must have already been getting hot, but not hot enough to shut down the SC. It could have been pulling timing already though as IATs rose quickly and that would absolutely produce a lower HP and TQ number
Those e55s are beautiful
Do a bigger coolant pump and bigger heat exchanger.
"Absolute Piles of Junk", says Scotty Kilmer
Nope, looks like it runs fine to me. I STILL WANT TO BUY ONE
This is making me want to pick up a E55 over a S2000 that I wanted to get...
why dont you use sandbags the stupid Guys in the trunk are getting flying rim parts and parts from from the dif if Things goes wrong
I don't have sand bags I guess. Honestly most dyno places work this way. Guys just get in the back. I've dont it too. Im sure sand bags are safer though.
Alex
mustang dyne underates hp like crazy, worst dyne out there if you want true numbers
By "highway" you mean closed course... right??
Use the Mercedes 'dyno mode' and there would be no limiter on the engine . This will give you better dynamometer results. This would be accessed via the gauge cluster menu and steering wheel controls.
ChromeSmoke They were in dyno mode
ChromeSmoke its a mustang dyno. You must be used to dynojets inflated numbers where this car would have done 500whp.
He’s probably just making a excuse for how little hp it made...
HOW TO TALK ABOUT GARBAGE FOR 9:04 seconds
Scotty Kilmer Where are you now? 400,000miles were are you now?
Where's the race ?
Err confused 😕. A side by side comparison would have benefitted!
Take that 400k+ mercedes to scotty and give him a ride
“ most importantly, they are both silver” ooof
Why pewdiepie sitting on the back
reported caption issue
he still hasn’t raced them tho 💀
holllyy fuck 400k miles my damn honda prolly cant even last 200k
Mercedes has dyno mode, you can enable. Did you? If you did not, the results are crap...
Garbage. Dyno figures? I apologise to the internet for contributing to this man's TH-cam revenue.
Why not show the drag race? You talked about it but skipped that part? :/
Automatic?! *TRIGGERED* *BEGONE MERCEDES*
Lol the old one is close to engine death 😂
Spotted a nissan 300zx at 0:38
Interesting theme
The engines are handbuilt so every engine is different and makes different power
V.I.P PLAYERZz lol wtf is that logic they dont build the pistons and parts by hand you donkey, its just assembled by hand. Same parts
Ummm no...... the quality control is still the same... parts are also the same.
Nicholas Eden every bolt has a torque spec, the alloys and casting imperfections could be said for every car because the parts are mass produced.
Nicholas Eden Yeah but it won't change like 20% 😂
Nicholas Eden what it changes its the type of dyno temperature humidy stuff like that
Lmao reminded me of Doug at the beginning
So when is this racing happening?
Alex I majorly enjoy your show, Here in nz ,I have owed a few older Benz s over the years 92 300c 1980w123 currently ML 430 m113 my girlfriend has 2005 c180 wagon and I want to know if we can crank the supercharger up ie smaller belt you may have mentioned ? If have been loo,ING at a 2005 e55 only 127 in nz with some issues too many questions on that begreatto chat one day
No way that benz has that much miles, they dont go that high seeing how unreliable benz are
Fix it !
You owe me 9 mins of my life back, what a waste of time!
Browse the channel. There is an update to this video. Or dont, haha. Thanks for watching
Alex
Why is it most important they are the same colour?..
It was a joke. I'm not very funny,haha.
Alex
I saw the dislikes equalling the likes and I couldn't get out fast enough
Why are Dynos different? Mustang Dyno ect..
Nebderf 350zHR on the normal ones isn' t a crowd involved ;)
The mustang dyno applies load to the tires, like what you would normally find on a road. Some dynos are free spin, which doesn't really accurately measure proper load.