Finding My Kibbe Body Type
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I'm going to try to find my Kibbe body type. Help is much appreciated!
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Very informative :) When you showed yourself on the left side of the screen you reminded me of a Sim waiting for me to pick them an outfit.
Exactly 🤣🤣.. those face expressions though🤣
This quiz needs a bunch of pictures as examples of each answer 😅
I was thinking the same thing. Or I just apparently have no clue what I look like
Yeah I mean like Lucy said.. its REALLY hard to judge yourself. Also, I'm pretty bad with faces and have a heard time telling the difference in bone structures 😬
There actually is something like that! Just look for Kibbe test with pictures
AlyArt has a Video with a lot of example pictures. It is really helpful
this overview of the Kibbe body types includes lots of photos and a more detailed breakdown! Its written by the same blogger whose quiz is used for this video but makes more sense to me when I read it than her newest one. cozyrebekah.com/2019/04/07/an-overview-of-the-kibbe-body-types/
everything about me is short, round, soft. your basic Hobbit
Same!
Same! 🤣 Rachel Maksy just uploaded a video making hobbit-y clothes!
From the waist up I’m longer an angular and then from the hips the hips I get short round and soft.
Nelda Hargo, you are probably what David Kibbe refers to as the Romantic body type.
Sounds much better than Hobbit imho 😂
You are a romantic. I am the same. I think it's a very lovely body type. :)
She basically took a video of herself as an NPC in a turnaround setting scene and judged her own character design
Or she looks like a character waiting to get dressed or picked as playable character for the game.
She looks like a Sim while you choose how they look.
Loepsie : I'm 172cm tall, I'm slightly short
Me, 160cm tall : what am I
I'm 1.56 WHAT AM I ?!
Here in top half of europe women have a biggest average growthin in last 50 years in the world. I'm 175cm and Im on the small side on the streets
@@taritangeo4948 again, what am I? Lmao
@@noworries7490 We're fairies
@@vivlings OMG YAY
I definitely don’t see you as short, and I feel that could impact the whole look.
She definitely looks tall. Her proportions scream tall girl haha!
I think she look short, with long hands
You picked wide for a lot of things, but I would have says narrow for those.
me too, maybe she is wide when you look at her around other women, but like this she looks very narrow and thin.
Kibbe's world and the kibbe comunity is one of those little niche corners on the internet filled with great content and great people sometimes...and some extremely dogmatic people on the other. I do like and follow some of kibbes recomendations, but some people get SO caught up on it, you might feel trapped. Some of the best kibbe content on youtube is made by AlyArt and Merriam's Style: she had a real-life people series were she typed her subscribers. I was on one of them and knowing my type is useful, but I dont let it describe my whole wardrobe. Variety is more fun!
(Also my bet with you is soft gamine ;)
Omg I love AlyArt so much. I wish I could go shopping with her so she could give me advice lol But she's definitely taught me a ton, and now I know why I just haven't worn certain pieces in my closet for years. They're lovely just not 100% for me :)
I think the height thing really screws people over and is where people tend to get the most dogmatic. I remember one of these bloggers said that we should “dress for your face” which was extremely interesting to me. She used Brienne of Tarth (from GOT, I don’t remember her real name lol) as an example: she actually has a really cutesy “ingenue” face and the opposite body-very dramatic. She showed pictures of her wearing dramatic vs soft/yin clothes and she looked way better in softer yin styles despite her height! 🤷♀️
@@jessierasberry3082 I agree about the height thing. People just don't understand proportions in context of one's body and comparitive features that puts someone in a specific category. Height is actually the least important requirement for typing but it's the one people are most hung up on because it is a quantifiable piece of information. The other requirements are something you can convince yourself you may or may not have unless you were strictly objective about it.
I hate my kibbe body type...
It's not anything like I want to dress.
@@jessierasberry3082 I agree that someone like that actress that have an ingenue essence should honor that and that 13 body types for the number of women on the planet is not going to work perfectly for everyone but the height thing is actually more a vertical line so more the appearance. the height for me is more about "if someone overall appearance is tall, long vertical line, you can't be certain yin dominant style" like Taylor Swift, she is not a gamine because her head to toe overall look is long vertical line but she has that ingenue/youthful essence in her face that should be honored too that's why she can sort of borrow some things that are categorized as gamines and that she needs to follow dramatic long lines and adding some cute looking things in her overall appearance.
Outside of your cheekbones, I wouldn't classify anything on you as wide!
Kibbe body types theory helped me so much,not only with choosing the lines/clothes that fit me better,but also with how I look at people.For example,I just admire how each feature fits the person's body type,while that feature maybe is,according to that person,their biggest insecurity.
I genuinely think that people that learn about this subject can be less judgemental in people's physical appearance(or maybe it's just me).
Exactly! I love how the styling recommendations are based on embracing your body and basically repeating its natural lines, not meaning to cover up and correct 'flaws' like many other styling methods do. Work with your body, not against it. Be your unique beautiful self. ❤️
Exactly, especially when you listen to Aly telling about any type you just feel complimented 😊
Something I've learned about Kibbe types is we shouldn't get bogged down in details and the quiz isn't very good for finding one's own type. It's good for understanding what is meant by "sharp", "blunt", "rounded", and etc. though. My advice would be to first look at the overall body and ask what you see first. When looking at the video provided, my first impression is tallness and width-width of the bones, that is. (You of course have some softness because you are a woman and we all have some softness. It's not the main focus though, I wouldn't say.) I think you are a lovely and elegant flamboyant natural.
A channel called "Style thoughts by Rita" does a very good job at going into the flamboyant natural type, as well as others. "Aly Art" is also a very good channel to reference. "Merriam Style" doesn't really follow Kibbe, rather she has her own system based upon Kibbe with some very key differences. I also recommend the blog "you and me and cup of coffee". There is also the Strictly Kibbe facebook group. I give these recommendations because there is a lot of misinformation on the system out there.
The Facebook is impossible to join. The link to the google doc is broken every time I try to join.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll have to check out style thoughts by Rita. I think I may be flamboyant natural or soft dramatic. Really not sure but trying to learn more. I don't have Facebook otherwise I would try to join the kibbe group. I found you me and a cup of coffee by searching 'tall gamine' one day, haha. I found her breakdown of the kibbe system and myths about it very useful!
@@theyhavememories I think FN and SD would be rather easy to get confused, especially if one has it in their head that a FN cannot have any curves at all. Good luck on your Kibbe journey!
@@unneighborlyarcades6356 Thank you! I think I'm settling more on FN, after looking into it some more and really trying to look at myself objectively. Why, oh why, is that so hard? haha. Still not 100% sure but FN seems to fit the best. I'm trying not to get too hung up on what "type" I am and just using Kibbe's ideas as a general guideline. I've always been hopeless at style so it's nice to have some place to start.
I would have guessed you as soft natural - the jaw shape says natural for me but the softness of the features is towards romantic. Gamines look more boyish/adolescent imo, especially in the body which I don't think you are. Edit: a very good tell is the clothing type which suits you best... If you can wear an oversized jumper with tousled hair and look fabulous (rather than scruffy) you're likely a natural of some sort, if you can wear very extra outfits with frills and ornate jewelry and look great (rather than fancy dress costume) you're likely TR, and if cropped, neat, boyish clothes look good on you you're more likely to be a gamine. This helped me a lot as my best outfits confirmed I'm a soft classic when I had my doubts between a few types .
I fully agree with trying the clothes that go with the types you think you could be. For the longest time I thought I was a soft classic but just couldn't make the clothes work for me. I got my mom to help me with the test and got soft gamine, and let me tell you, anything boyish, cropped, that has high necklines, is color blocked, or looks like the 60's mod style looks great on me. Which was originally a style I never tried because I always assumed they'd look awful.
Exactly -it is after all a system to help you dress your best, that's the very definition of it, so why not use that to work backwards and find what you are
Julia Daughton Kibbe inspired me to try stuff I would NEVER have even looked at and now I’m constantly getting told I look so well put together. I never thought I had a bad sense of style before but apparently I needed this upgrade 😹
thank you so so much for the comment i was just looking for it
i was so torn between sg tr and sn cuz they seemed so similar at first but then i ve found some other people opinions like yours that helped me a lot
Ha! you were right about her being Soft natural :D
As someone who's been obsessed with Aly's kibbe series for ages I think you're giving off some really strong SG vibes!
I could totally see you rocking baby bangs or a cute bob while wearing more precisely fitted/geometric/60s mod kinda clothes :)
Yes I think she's a gamine type
she is to tall to be a sg
@@Cola482 I think it´s more about "visual height" than the actual height of a person. Seeing only her figure, I´d say she looks rather short. I´d type her SG too.
Cola482 she has the same body as jenna coleman, who is a gamine type.
@@daintyDeniss According to Kibbe actual height does matter, so she it to tall
Yeeeaasss!! I’ve been wanting tou to bring up the kibbe test on your channel!!❤️ It’s honestly a very unique but great way of body typing and I don’t understand why more people don’t know about it:)
Just a heads up - and there is some argument here amongst people on the internet - but David Kibbe has said people at your height automatically have a tall vertical line and can only fit in to the Dramatic, Natural, or possibly Classic categories. A lot of people end up in gamine (myself previously included) because it can be hard to see oneself accurately and it becomes sort of the catch all category.
I was just going to say this! According to Kibbe, tall women are usually flamboyant natural, soft dramatic, or dramatic.
He recommends various exercises -- such as the line exercise -- that may be more helpful than the test. The test doesn't work accurately for many people, including tall people. It may help to first determine a general yin/yang leaning to narrow down types before delving deep.
Source: I am a soft dramatic who thought I was some sort of gamine because of the test!
I don't agree- it's only about how she looks like... there are some gamines that are tall!
It's only one of many answers
And she really looks like gamine and not dramatic, natural, classic...
@@kackareznickova5431 I dont disagree with you, but David himself disagrees with you, so you opinion fits Body Geometry system but not Kibbe's system.
I think it would be cool in your follow-up video if you styled yourself in the “appropriate” clothing, but also in clothing that would be “inappropriate” for your body type! That would give a really good comparison.
This would be cool
Alyart has a ton of informative videos on Kibbe and body types!! She is so awesome.
Omg i love Kibbe's theory and i am soooo happy that you made a video about it !!
Wow I've never heard of this but i% sounds cool! Also good morning! I'm having a matcha iced latte this morning which accompanied by this video is a great way to start my day!
The Kibbe community is wiiiiild. There’s some interesting and useful stuff, but it’s weirdly popular with like anti-feminist communities and other odd corners of the Internet. I was typed by some commenters on a quieter Kibbe subreddit - they gave me Dramatic Classic, which I realize suits me wayyyy more than what I had initially thought (Theatrical Romantic, and later Soft Classic). I too have a soft jaw but there’s more sharpness and length to my bone structure. Dressing for my face would not suit me for sure...!
I have never heard of Kibbe, thank you for sharing! I am excited to go do some research on my own and can’t wait for your next video!
Perfect timing, a relaxing and informative video before bed 💕
Love aly art. Her other channel where she sings is amazing as well.
I think you're having a hard time because you have a very gamine face but your body line is more in the natural family, maybe soft dramatic.
Soft dramatics look heavy and she doesn’t
Face and body cannot be different types, she for sure is gamine , either true or dramatic.
I could see soft dramatic too actually? I think her face looking so gamine/ingenue-like throws off the results but like, a yang bone structure with sloped shoulders, curvy flesh and a yin face sounds just like SD Christina Hendricks.
@@3000BETA face and body can definitely be different type. Gamines main characteristic is Compact, there's nothing compact about her body.
@@NaNa-wy2tk No that's not their main characteristic, their main characteristic is their unique mix between yin and yang features.
YES I knew youll eventually do a video about this.
I'm a bit of a purist and believe that system can be quite restrictive with dressing, so I try not to let it control my life and wardrobe too much. Looking good is beneficial but wearing what I like is more fun.
I went into a TH-cam hole with this a good few months back and found I was flipping between soft dramatic and soft natural, and then also the middle classic one, anyway-I wanted to be soft dramatic haha but then what helped me see I was actually soft natural was when I watched allys video about the hairstyles. I remember being a slightly emo teenager and wanting to get a haircut with a heavy Razor fringe like my friends with lovely thick hair were doing-but for some reason on me I just couldn't get the same effect when for them it seemed so effortless, I went to the hairdressers a good few times but I just came out looking the same or just looked alot better with a plain haircut, it didn't give me the same effect as my friends had .
When I heard ally explaining different body types carrying different hairstyles it made sense. When she gave examples I really identified with what she said about scarlett johansson, pretty much on every single one, and so something that gets me a little bit-is seeing someone's style I like and thinking yeah that feels like me, but then in reality it just doesn't quite look as flattering as I'd imagined.
I looked at a few of johanssons general looks and it reminded me of styles I've tried, I had similar critiques for how certain clothes looked on her as they did for myself (sorry scarlett!) (e.g. I love how leather jackets look on people, but for me they just look kind of awkward and like the cut is not right as ally would say 'separate' and I saw on scarlett they felt the same to me) - and ones I liked or disliked seemed to be similar in her, then I think I searched recommended styling for my body type on Pinterest got the jist of the type of new silhouette and went shopping trying on this kind of silhouette but in a style/colour of clothing I liked, and I felt like it was alot more flattering-like it was nice to be like oh yeeeaaahh... Of course that's why I wasn't getting the desired look, because my body is just different from what I was trying to achieve. Anyway it's nice to kind of accept that and appreciate it for what it is.... Hope this long arse description of my journey helps abit, basically comparing how you have felt in things you new didn't quite suit you or definitely do suit you, and then seeing if you feel the same about celebs in your category-I know you say you don't know how to, but if you have a particular thing that you're like-no this doesn't work, maybe that can be a starting point, for me it was my haircuts
This is cool! Glad you found your type and in such an unconventional way 👍 I’m sure this advice will help someone struggling to pin down their exact type
I’m always so in awe of your beauty!!! 💕
I'm saving this video to enjoy over breakfast tomorrow, but I just wanted to pop in and say how absolutely gorgeous you look in the thumbnail. You are a talented photographer and a beautiful human being! See you in the morning!
Yay you did a Kibbe video!!
I think you're a soft natural :) if you google 'soft natural tapatalk' you'll find the exact description as copied from the book, I think it describes you really well. Kibbe is much more about learning to read the yin/yang balance in your body than counting test answers, and he himself doesn't recommend the test any more. I think your shoulders are more blunt/bevelled than rounded, and your bone structure looks softly yang with yin flesh. You also don't look short to me, definitely not enough to have a short vertical line (necessary for gamine type). I think that relaxed lines and draping with waist emphasis (a belt or something) would look great on you.
Also, the face is not really taken into account in modern Kibbe (how he applies his theory himself these days). A LOT of your yin answers come from your face, and even though it's definitely super important to consider your face in your overall look/style, your face doesn't actually affect how clothes physically hang on your body, if you see what I mean! I would really recommend looking at the r/kibbe subreddit for more, it's a very helpful environment :D
This was very interesting! I think it’s always going to be conflicting because how we perceive ourselves changes and, on top of that, differs from how others perceive us. I am 5’2” and some would call me “boyish” for being flat and petite/skinny. I see myself as more “medium” frame since I’m have round and soft frame, particularly wider at the hip and thigh area, with fuller arms. You certainly look tall and slender to me, with a round soft face. You’re very pretty and definitely look great in feminine clothing you cover on your channel.
I have myself been binge watching aly art and Merriam styles videos as well a lot since the last few months..and it's really a very interesting topic..
I love hearing your thoughts on the Kibbe system! I'm a soft gamine (or at least I believe I am) and have found it sooo interesting in examining my own wardrobe and attitudes to certain clothing. I can see how you'd be stuck between soft gamine and theatrical romantic、maybe you could do a video where you dress for both types and see how they contrast! 💓
Love your videos so much , thanks for that quality content
Its true it’s hard to type yourself accurately the first time- I’m a soft dramatic and initially I thought I was romantic which is the opposite of my true nature. Personally I’d type you as some kind of dramatic, I’d try to pay attention to your hands and feet -that’s what finally convinced me. I don’t actually think the face is as big of a tell as the body.
Yes, most people mistype by concentrating too much on the face. Most women have a lot of yin in their face even if they are a yang type. I’m always so shocked at who Kibbe types as a yang type because I usually concentrate heavily on the face and I forget that’s just a small percentage of the overall body.
kshiftkometh Kibbe says that celebrities often exaggerate their heights and that if he were to meet them in person and they were actually that tall, he would just move them to the correct category. He seems to put a lot of emphasis on the height restrictions so I doubt he’ll be adjusting them anytime soon. But I wonder why there is so much resistance to being yang though? I never see anyone complaining about only being able to be in the yin category due to being too short and rounded but being yang seems so controversial? 🤔 I’m just curious as to why that is.
@@nicolesmith4371 i know i fought yang for a while because i wanted to feel more feminine and cute/small. i am (likely) a soft natural, trying to be gamine for a long time. it always felt odd though. it should be more accented that having a yang structure doesn't doom you to look manly in your good clothes.
That was extra helpful for me because though I'm shorter than you I answered the same on almost every question. I love your "avatar" video on the left. I want to arm you with swords and play Mortal Combat lol!
I think you get it right! I’m a soft classic and i find this types usefull!
Hi fellow soft classic!
I’m so glad I watched this! I’ve had so many AHA! moments researching this! It seems so obvious now!
In my opinion, you look exactly like your actual height! 5’8” is tall-ish to me, and you look like you would be tall-ish. ❤️
Firstly, I just want to say that you are SO pretty! Secondly, I just love the Kibbe typing, but was confused about my type until I had my husband do the quiz for me. I wasn't even considering classic, but that is actually what I am! Try having another person who is looking at you in person take the quiz for you. Might be fun. 😃💖
A quick scroll through the comments kinda illustrates how difficult it is to find the right type for many people. I think every type has been mentioned apart from Romantic :P I can't wait for the follow up video! :) I think the best way to determine what you actually are is to try to style yourself according to the type rules. I tried to identify myself a couple of times, I did the very test from Cozy Rebekah a few months ago, I know Aly Art and Merriam (I find her videos the most helpful - and her colour analysis method is great too!), I thought I was a SG as well but a few style recommendations went directly against what I had figured out myself looked good on me ;) Then someone pointed out the Natural family to me, which I hadn't considered at all because I'm petite. But I looked up the recommendations and Soft Natural really resonated with me. I also remembered how people would sometimes exclaim how small I was, especially when I was a teenager - so probably I look taller than I am and that would be OK for SN. I look good in Classic too, though. (My first test result was actually SC, but just like with SG it wasn't fully it). So am I a SN? Probably. And this degree of probability is satisfactory for me. Now I can go back to wearing what I want ;)
Edit: I just wanted to add that I was surprised by no C answers on your side. I probably got SC at first because I was so unsure how to describe my shapes that I kept picking the middle ground. But I'd say your shoulders are C. I think they look very balanced with regard to the rest of your body.
Hi Loepsie! I have followed your videos on-and-off since 2009 or 2010, since you were 16! I just started watching again a few months ago. It's amazing to see that you are still doing all of these videos, hairstyles, and looks. The only thing I think you got a bit mistaken in your personal body assessment is that you look tall -- 5´8“ is right. And, maybe also that your hips are not really wide. They may seem wide to you but they aren't. Hugs from USA-and-now-Chile!
I agree that you look shorter than what you are! I remember when I started watching your channel I always assumed you were shorter than me (5'6) so I remember being surprised when you mentioned your height in a video. A bit like Audrey Hepburn, she is taller than what she seems haha. I need to look more into this as I was ignorant of this concept.
I was very confused about my body type to, but trying on different clothes and taking pictures helped me figure it out.
No way, just a week ago I was checking to see if you'd done this on your channel yet! I am so excited for this video! I am definitely no expert, but my impression of you has always been soft gamine as well.
I'm early for your video for once! This is a really cool concept and I'm considering giving this a try ^^
@Loepise great video. If you want to know your body ID I would look further in Kibbe work. Kibbe is still very active with his work no longer uses the quiz, the book was written in 1987. Also the kibbe description he gives for the SG and FG are different from what you have learned on TH-cam. SG are short, narrow in body, a little board, compact ( the curves are tight) with a mix of opposite all over the place. You don't look SG or FG at all. When you see a G ID you know straight away! The previous outfits videos show how you are not a SG. Look into SC if you think you are curvy etc. Having large eyes does not equal SG. Alot of people have gone into the group thinking what they learnt on TH-cam is true only to realise they are different from what they learnt. Kibbe wife is a TR. Short, trim, slight yang, curvy with some slight sharp face features and face. He also states that TR, R, SG will be under 5'4 in his system. The Gamine and Romantic family are small and they look small in real life. Although not all short people with be yin. Sarah Jessica Parker is a FN. If you interested 're learn the system.
Lucy, you are definitely not a soft gamine. The quiz needs to take into account how tall you look, as well as how tall you actually are.
And gamines' structure is very different, their limbs are shorter, and their bones are smaller.
Ally Art's quiz is my favourite, it really helped me find and understand my body type. It's extensive enough to be accurate, but also simple to understand (the pictures really helped me)
I don't know if this will help, but lots of love from me ❤️❤️❤️
She looks like a soft gamine to me
@@13jonni soft gamines are a lot smaller, Hayden Panettiere is a perfect example of a soft gamine ❤️
I struggle a lot with finding my Kibbe body type, but when i started learning about it a few years ago i definitely identified you as a gamine. And i think soft gamine really suits you ! And i think you style, even if it's not fully gamine, works well on your body, like you already kinda knew what to wear !
Great idea for a video! I think you have a very good sense of what you look like overall, but I think your yin/yang balance is more unique than you might realize. For instance, even though you have very round answer E eyes, you have a strong contrast in your eye color/skin color and your brows are quite yang leaning because of their definition & overall presence, also your nose is a combination of straight and round lines. So, the quiz gives a good overview of your features, but it doesn't even touch the smaller more subtle characteristics that may be more yin or yang. This may explain why you don't like to wear frilly/puffy yin leaning lines, they contrast with some of your subtle yang features. Soft gamine lines with a more yang essence or soft natural would work well on you. I think your height does make it more likely for you to be flattered by soft natural lines, simply because you have a more yang physical presence than a soft gamine. But you could blend the two styles to accommodate you individually, taking aspects of both and tailoring it to suit you, and working with your seasonal color palette as well. Personal style is an ever evolving process, one that is fascinating and so addictive!
This is interesting. I didn't realize we have such a similar body shape until this video lol. Good luck with this adventure
I did one quiz with pictures, very nice since English isn't my first language. Otherwise knowing what is considered round for example is hard.
Not related to the video, but I just ordered a mug and a sweatshirt from your merch store! So excited! ❤
Aaah yay! 😍😍
Its a great video. Kibbe's theory is very complicated to understand and see in real life. Also it takes a couple of more tries to get the test right. My Kibbe body type is romantic and I still don't understand a lot of stuff. I have been researching on this for a couple of years now. However my personal opinion is to look at yourself objectively and just wear clothes that best suit your body. The specific body types don't matter in the long run.
I thought you were too tall to be a gamine, but then you said you look shorter than you are. It's such a fine distinction between your two types. I find it so hard to answer some of those body typing questions and it is useful to watch you go through the same process.
I've been interested in this for a while but have never been able to work out what I am, I always end up stuck between natural, romantic and gamine. I wish there were more people available that we could ask for a more accurate opinion
hi there, i’m a recent subscriber! i really like the kibbe body types test and i think you did a good job taking this test. i think you’re definitely a soft gamine as opposed to a theatrical romantic, the difference is mostly in bone structure. gamines will have a mixed bone structure, meaning the length and build of bones changes frequently as you move down the skeleton. this could mean long arms and legs and a short torso, or long hands and teeny feet; it truly could mean a lot of things when it comes to gamines. while theatrical romantics will have some sharpness/yang in their bones as well, it is notably fewer; they definitely still belong in the romantic/rounded bone structure camp. soft gamine bone structure and features have a lot of variety and movement with a yin leaning; theatrical romantics are rounded types with a sprinkling of sharpness. i hope that helps and would love to see you in some soft gamine outfits! i tend to see a lot of SG lines in vintage clothing (:
Lucy I have been wanting you to do this for ages! I have mentioned in a few comment sections that I have seen you as a Soft Gamine since your Style Evolution video last year, based on your most flattering outfits from that (and how well you wear Brigitte Bardot inspired looks, she's an ICONIC SG!) BUT... My jaw DROPPED when you said you are 5'8". GIRL. Your essence is SHORT and SG AF but under the strict Kibbe system you can ONLY be pure D, SD, or FN because you are so tall! SG's heights are officially capped at 5'4"!
There are some key differences between 1980s Metamorphosis Kibbe (which Aly Art teaches), Merriam Style (who now calls her system Body Geometry because it's so divergent from DK's work), and "modern Kibbe", which is what DK himself teaches in his Facebook groups and when you are typed by him in person. Basically modern Kibbe uses only 10 Image IDs (pure N, C, and G are no more), does NOT use or recommend the typing quiz, and basically disregards one's facial features since "you don't wear clothes on your face". This means that Merriam Style would type you as a Soft Gamine, but I think DK would type you as a Flamboyant Natural or Soft Dramatic! I know, it's crazy. The best example of this phenomenon is Taylor Swift-gate, when Merriam typed her as a pure Gamine (based on her essence i.e. her face) and all hell broke loose in the community. She's a DK verified pure D. Her body is pure D. But her face has a lot of yin and she looks cute in G looks, there's no denying!
Basically you have the choice to dress as a Kibbe FN/SD, or a Body Geometry "Softened Mixed" type (Merriam's Soft Gamine), or dress more FN/SD and do more SG hair and makeup, etc. It's up to you! I HIGHLY recommend the r/Kibbe subreddit to you and anyone else interested in the system (the preferred term rather than "theory", FYI! :) ). It's a great, supportive community and there's tons of awesome "scholarship" being done on this topic, it's the best resource online once you've watched Aly's videos and want to start actually engaging with the system! (Word of warning/encouragement, we're already talking about you! If you came and lurk you will get a wide variety of input from commentators who are already well versed in the ins and outs of the system.) This is an article to get you started specifically on the face vs body and Taylorgate issue: www.reddit.com/r/Kibbe/comments/esyh72/dressing_for_your_body_vs_dressing_for_your_face/
Welcome to the community!
I figured you were a flamboyant gamine. But it’s hard to tell through a screen. A lot of the answers you put as soft and rounded I did not see. Your chest and arms and legs for example. I don’t see very much flesh or roundness in those areas. Also a soft gamine usually won’t be 5’8. You do have a shorter line but you still have actual physical length which is a yang trait. Soft gamines must appear short and you don’t appear short to me, you appear moderate. I believe there is a little more wiggle room with height for flamboyant gamines however. Audrey Hepburn, for instance is a tall flamboyant gamine.
I agree with this! I think she appears on the tall side
My thoughts exactly. Her skeleton looked way more yang than that of a soft gamine, but maybe she's just like Brigitte Bardot (who I think has been qualified in the Soft Natural category although she had gamine features (or ingenue essence) and therefore could pull off soft gamine fashion as well). I wouldn't think she's a TR at all though, her body has way too yang for a romantic type.
Audrey Hepburn was actually only 5'5.5" according to her son. 0.5" is hardly that much taller, I think she's not a tall gamine, just a gamine.
Your facial features are definitely very gamine, which might explain why people think you are shorter than you are. What I found most fascinating by your results is that your body's bone structure is nearly identical to mine, and I'd describe myself as a dramatic classic because my facial features are pretty angular! I've also watched the Aly Art videos on the topic. Certainly not a science, but certainly a helpful tool I find!
So the thing with Kibbe is that it's better not to read the book or anything written on the Internet, and never ever take any tests. Ever. Just join Strictly Kibbe on Facebook, where David himself writes. His theory is hugely misunderstood on the Internet, I've actually never seen anyone outside of the FB group getting it right! It's not about any types, too, he personally hates this name. It's more about looking at your own lines, shapes, as they truly are, not "square", "round" or whatever, and wearing clothes that repeat the same lines. I'd say number one most important thing with Kibbe is your bone structure as a whole. When you read what he writes it all becomes incredibly easy and helpful when buying clothes or doing makeup, and it's a guide that has never failed me :)
I requested to join the Facebook group a week ago and I'm still waiting on approval. Are the admins active?
I’d say the exact opposite. The Facebook group is weirdly cultish and his writing style... borders on ... incomprehensible... Have fun on the internet in places that are open to discussion and debate instead of places that don’t allow questioning. We can all repeat the lines of our own bodies without consulting a 70 year old man who really hasn’t kept up with modern fashion at all.
I've never heard of this. Now, I really want to do this! ( no surprise since I love any sort of quiz lol)
Typing oneself is ridiculously difficult, I've discovered, as I've taken and re-taken the test 6-7 times! My results have varied between soft classic, theatrical romantic, soft gamine, and romantic, but after a whole year of researching Kibbe I've finally concluded that I'm (probably) soft gamine.
To me you don't look that short, actually, I'd say your vertical line is answer C. In fact, I think you have a lot more C in you than you think. I too have a very rounded, baby-like face, which caused me to think I have more E answers in my facial features than I actually have. I think you might be making the same mistake here. I feel like people with ingenue essence, which you have, instinctively get typed as soft gamine as we tend to associate the "child-like" appearance with that type. Merriam Style has a great video on this!
If I was you I'd consider soft classic (you remind me a bit of Marion Cotillard who is a soft classic), possibly soft natural or flamboyant gamine (you do have that Audrey Hepburn vibe). Also, watching your 'Trying on all my clothes' video, I couldn't tell if you look better in relaxed, loose, boho-style clothing or more fitted pieces (So typical of classics to look good in everything, you lucky bastards!). If anything, your best outfits were the basic ones with clean lines that let your inherent beauty be in the spotlight. So definitely look into the soft classic body type!
What ultimately helped me find my type was to stop focusing on the test and just try on the types' different lines, silhouettes, textures and makeup. That way I could /see/ what worked for me and not.
But then again, I'm no expert. Just excited to share my thoughts ^^ Always had a feeling you were into Kibbe and was basically waiting for you to make this video haha!
I think the main thing about learning your body type and what suits it is kind of like learning how to draw. Once you get the fundamentals down, you can start to manipulate what you know to fit your personal style and signature. I feel like you have some pretty distinctly dramatic undercurrents in your body with a very gamine face. IMO flamboyant gamine or just gamine comes to mind more than soft gamine. The angles in your body look sharp but long even tho over all you appear shorter than you are. You do have very lovely waist definition which is a romantic feature for sure! All that aside, you have very pretty features! My eyes just kept falling to your hands they're so slender and move so gently! :D It's hard to be objective. A friend and I each did the test for the other because we thought it would be the most objective lol.
What I find difficult about the quiz is that some words either aren't clearly definded or have a connotation that draws you to them or pushes you away respectively. I could hardly answer the questions about myself, just like you sometimes struggled with it. And as some people already pointed out: how do you judge one's height if not by their surroundings? I'm 1.7m. In Germany where I live that's slightly below average. But in other parts of the world I'd be considered reeeeally tall. Btw, when you said your bust was not that prominent I died a little bit inside because I am suuuper flat-chested. x)
It’s not about how tall you actually are but how tall you appear to be. Like if we met her in real life and said “oh youre taller than I expected!” So the question is if I were to look at a picture of you and guess your height, would you appear taller than you are, the same as you are, or shorter than you are
I became interested in kibbe body types and oh... it is so complicated. I think images would serve a lot better for comparing yourself to others, as it is often the case you dont know if something is "round" or "elongated" or whatever. For me, the most useful thing is to try different styles and check yourself out and what you find you are most drawn towards would help label you in the system.
I thought the same - that's not the way to knowing. As you pointed out you can't tell what is rounded or elongated, because you looking at it with the 'clothes situation '. But in reality you do know - Look at yourself in the mirror ( pictures distort images). The clue is in the body structure and height. All combined with the shapes on the face features.
Wow, I had never heard of this before. I love the idea that we can all be beautiful.
As some already did, I would recommend to you the videos by 'Style thoughts by Rita'. They helped me a lot to understand the system and Kibbe's work a little better and to find and love my body type.
Will you be doing a video on what style or look your kibbe body type says you should go for? Would be super interested in this.
Yes for a second part 😊
No word of a lie, this seemed a wee bit hard if I’m honest with. you love! Fair play for trying it though!!! x
I got neck deep into the Kibbe Body Types myself a few years ago. I ultimately decided that it wasn't helpful for me at the time.
That said, when you completed your quiz and came up with Soft Gamine, I FULLY agreed. I believe I remember Jenna Coleman from Dr. Who is also a Soft Gamine, and I can see the similarities in you and her.
I agree with the Soft Gamine body type for you, Lucy.
One of the best Kibbe Body Typing blogs I recommend is by Truth is Beauty. It has a style calculator which you can purchase and it's very precise if you have a trained eye for optical illusions. The thing is quizzes can be very subjective, especially when you really think you're VERY (characteristic), or you want to be considered a particular (feature) because of the influence of society (something I was influenced by in the past). Interestingly, the blogger focuses mainly on your face, not your body. I thought I had some classic and romantic essence in me before I found her blog, because of my body... but according to her style calculator, my face is 100% classic. When trying out dresses, I would look and feel weird in dresses with a romantic essence but feel so good in 100% classic dresses.
I've spent so much time researching Kibbe body types and I'm sure you're soft gamine, good job seeing yourself objectively, I can't figure out my own type😆 . Ally art have great videos about this subject
I would be interested in a video on how to style clothes with hipdips. I have them myself and I find it hard to style my clothes so it looks flattering. I loved the video ♥
I made a video about that a few months ago! :)
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@@Loepsie Oh thank you! ♥
First of all, waw how much your videos are well done and informative, I love how you made videos so we can check with you and that gave me the idea to do the same since I have the same issue of estimating my feature. Second, I'm not familiar with the Kibbe body type but from the definition I feel you're more a soft gamine, you have such wonderful youtful lively features, especially your gorgeous round face..
I have been researching this system for months now cause I find it so interesting! The test isn't recommended anymore, as it makes it seem like for example the size of your hands/feet are as important as your vertical line, which isn't true. At your height, if you follow Kibbe strictly, you can only be Dramatic, Soft Dramatic, Flamboyant Natural or Dramatic classic. If you're interested I'd check out the Kibbe subreddit, it's very helpful. I personally don't see gamine at all in you, as you don't look short and compact which is the most striking feature of gamines, to me you look very Dramatic Classic. But in the end only you can decide your type!
I always thought you were about my height (170) so I think you look pretty accurate to your height :)
This was so interesting 🙌 imo you look tall though
uuuh and please, make a follow-up video, love to see it ^-^
Yaaasss finally!
I think having all black on actually would make it more difficult for you to judge. I would have gone with a nude legging/cami/socks. But, I know that can be uncomfortable to have for a video, so maybe like a dusty/ballet pink would be be a better option for a video. It's just that darker colours automatically trick your eye into making it look slimmer, and white tricks your eye into making you seem wider. So something more flesh coloured would be ideal.
My dear, nothing about you is wide bar your pretty round face and eyes! I have looked at this system before and find it as confusing as you do. As someone who has always been short and round all over, whether slimmer or in midlife, I'm not sure you see yourself objectively (but then, who does, we all have our hangups - I'm amazed by the things my taller, slimmer friends criticise in themselves!!). I certainly don't think your head is large, you have a small face, too, even if it is round, have you considered your hat size? "Normal" is 57 cm-ish. I take a 58 and my mom, who is only a cm taller than me a 59, we are like Shetland ponies, robust-looking! Also look at your wrists. My friend is the same height as me but her wrists are tiny and she is petite (I wish!) whereas I have 7"/17.75 cm wrists like someone who is 6 ft/182 cm tall... You are slightly taller than average but the overall impression you make is a dainty one, soft, slender are good words to describe you, and you are a more athletic build than someone who is round or wide, I think. I too would probably be surprised at your height in real life (one of my daughters is your height to my 157 cm!) but after all, soft gamine doesn't sound too wrong as a description... Whatever the quiz, I think you have a very well-balanced body shape. I will have to re-consult the quiz LOL
(ps your high hip reminds to ask if you have heard of the different descriptions for hourglass figures as being X or 8, 8 is the one with the high hip, ask me how I know ;))
It's less about measurements and more about proportions and the "visual weight". So, for example, my daughter and I both have broad shoulders but her bones are what is referred to as "bevelled" or "blunt", where as mine are sharp. We both have curves but hers are gentler and mine more severe, extreme. Her face is cuter, mine harsher. We look similar, but those slight differences in proportion set us quite apart. Additionally, when I stand next to my mum and sister (both dramatic classics, balanced, slightly sharp features), I look like a giant, even though my mum and I wear the same clothing size.
@@MsAdlerHolmes I have the same thing of looking a lot like my mother, but the different body types set us completely apart, even in face features.
I always looked younger, people still think I'm in my early 20's, but I'm 31, my mother was the opposite, she looked like a full grown woman since puberty.
I'm a romantic type, I think, all rounded features, rounded body, hourglass figure even when overweight, I think my mother is a natural type, I know there is more than one, but I didn't quite figure it out. She looks taller (we are the same height), never had an hourglass figure, her body was straight and muscular when young, now, older and after menopause, she gained weight, only in the torso, her arms and legs are still very straight. Her face is slightly sharper than mine.
We are now the same weight (around 30 pounds overweight) and the same height, but I carry more of my weight in my arms and legs, still have an hourglass figure with rounded arms.
In the past I got to 220 pounds due to a hormonal issue, and even that overweight (I'm 1,62m) I somehow still had a bit of the hourglass shape, my waist was smaller than my mother's who was a lot thinner than me.
Samantha Holz yes but even looking at her nothing but her face looks broad to me. But I read that you can only accurately asses yourself with this test and your not supposed to have someone else answer for you.
You’re definitely some sort of a gamine! I’ve always thought you look amazing in gamine lines in your previous fashion videos, so I already knew you would get a mixed answer result☺️
Interesting how we view ourselves and as others mentioned cultural norms of height and width. For many of the questions I would say her body is proportional to itself except perhaps longer arms. For example according to Wikipedia average height for Women is 5'4 so I would find her quite tall and also find her figure quite hourglass to me. I am excited to see what she will do to dress for the type and what will the result be! I hope she tries a couple of different types.
I was wondering if you would ever do a hair tutorial on the braid that Madam Giry wears in the phantom of the opera movie in the beginning, where her hair is kind of like in a crown braid but also is a long braid at the bottom? I’m having trouble figuring it out myself and I haven’t found anyone who has tried to do it
I think you're a Soft Dramatic but I'd also consider Dramatic Classic. Many of your B answers should be A IMO (I see sharpness more than bluntness), and you're too tall to be a Gamine or Romantic in the strict Kibbe rules. I suggest someone close to you, maybe Robert, take the test on your behalf too.
I wouldn't focus that much on your face since Kibbe doesn't even consider it anymore. I was originally mistyped as a Soft Gamine because of my face (I look good with short hair and have a baby face) but my body, which is stronger and long, is definitely Flamboyant Natural.
I think it's helpful to consider what you need to accommodate when you're shopping. Do you need to alter clothes to accommodate certain features? As an FN, I often struggle with the shoulder area in tops and thighs in pants (too tight, from Natural width and muscularity) and sleeve/pant length (too short, from Dramatic length).
Your height doesn't matter when it comes to body type. Short people can be true Dramatics and tall people can be true Romantics as well. It's all about how tall/short you and your bones appear to be.
@@lauraweichman7115 It does matter in the strict Kibbe system, which I mentioned in my previous comment. I agree short people can be pure Dramatics because there are not height requirements in the system, only limitations.
I know it because at 5'5.5" I'm just above average height and am a Flamboyant Natural, one of the "tall" types. I believe the rationale is that the defining feature of someone tall is at least in part their height, which is yang. In Dramatics you see length, Flamboyant Naturals length and width, and Soft Dramatics length and curve. I resisted this idea at first, but when I stopped looking at faces and just looked at bodies it became clear that it makes sense. I know there's been debate about Taylor Swift as a Gamine or Dramatic, but if you look at just her body it's obvious the latter is the correct type.
Em Shef I agree. We should be respectful of kibbes and merriams work by addressing that they are two different systems.
I’m about 10 minutes in and getting a little perturbed at your answers. I disagree with almost all of them. I think you are seeing yourself much more “wide” than most people would. You appear very tall (nearly as tall as the door, most of which are above or around 6ft), so while I do agree with you saying your limbs are long they are certainly not wide. I would describe you as tall, and fairly slender. Especially the portion about your ribcage, very much not wide! I was astounded that you were so sure of that answer. I’m not sure if you’re working off of reference pictures for this test and maybe that’s where you’re getting your answers, but to be fair I’ve never heard of this test before so I’m not very objective. And this is certainly not to say that being “wide” is a bad thing, I just don’t know that you’re able to see yourself accurately.
You need the chill pill. I think this test fails to consider cultural opinions. She seems European so I assume thin women are more common. I’m american and over here she is nowhere near any concept of wide in terms of her body. I think her face is the widest thing about her. Her body is tall and slender, long limbed, very regal looking. Also her shoulders are not broad or wide at all, they flow down very softly. Like when you look at her she does not look muscular or athletic at all, very soft and thin. This test isn’t the most accurate since style changes within cultures and countries.
from my small amount of knowledge i agree w another comment, ur face seems more gamine but ur body seems more natural or classic. from my limited knowledge hahah. i SUPER reccomend studying Aly Arts vidoes tho! tho u need to dedicate time she explains it extremely well. im confidently a soft classic btw :)
Have you ever tried the “dressing your truth” system? The test is shorter and depends on your energy. Very interesting... it got me right! (Type 2)
I don't fall on any of them :(
First I was struggling on how to express why certain styles/“vibes” don’t fit certain people and then I found Kibbe and rejoiced and then I failed at identifying myself and now I just watch random videos and cry bc even if I ID myself reconciling my taste and strong suits calls for WORK and I don’t have the confidence to try stuff AND NOW this video pops up.
Is this a sign to not give up
I think it is a sign :)
Do not give up!!
I think posting to a quieter subreddit or group (avoid some of the busy drama-filled ones) and learn more about qualities than types. I was typed Dramatic Classic but it’s more useful to me to know I’ve got a balanced bone structure leaning yang, and then balanced flesh. I’m not at all symmetrical which is what classics are often stereotyped as - but the advice is close enough so it works!
You are classic, very proportionate.
You’re an inch taller than me but I always assumed you were very petite!
I got this with 5 A's as well
If you got mostly ‘D’ answers, or a combination of ‘E’ and ‘D’ with up to 4 ‘A’ + ‘B’ answers in body or facial bones, then you have the theatrical romantic body type.
Your body is made up of soft and rounded lines, however you also have some added angularity in your bone structure or facial features. You also tend to be more narrow than the romantic. If you work out a lot your muscles are softly defined rather than quite sharp. When you gain weight your body becomes very rounded and soft, however you will still maintain a defined figure if you’re an hourglass shape.
you look about my height, which is 5'5. i tend to look taller than i am because i have wide shoulders. i believe i was a soft classic when i completed the quiz about a year ago.
This was a great video and a good idea to!😁😍
Thank you so much for your insights!
Im also a mix between theatrical romantic and soft gamine! I think I lean slightly more toward theatrical romantic, but I find both work for me.
now I definitely see you with a layered A-line bob
I’d love for there to be an app based on this to make avatars or drawings or animations!
Im surprised you got the types i thought you might be! Dramatic Natural and Soft Gamine. Cuz i didnt agree with some of ur answers BUT you know ur body best and had the context of the questions.
I am a Soft Natural btw
I think there is an argument for you possibly being a Theatrical Romantic too? But not as sure on that one. You are a very beautiful and unique mix of blunt (not so much wide) and sharp and soft and long and round, with lovely big eyes! I think maybe your face is more Soft Gamine and possibly your body is more Theatrical Romantic/Dramatic Natural? It also helps to look up celebrities and their types.