my face and my body looked seperated based on the kibbe body types. and i thought i was just the only one... until i realized that the kibbe body types are very *euro-centric* (especially with facial features) and i'm asian. and so i take the facial features with a grain of salt. btw! i'm soft natural after much examining of my body. i hope that makes more sense! 🤞💕
Yes, and it’s a very old-school archetypical way of classifying types. Modern beauty standards value a more unique, fresh, and almost incongruent/paradoxical type of look. I feel like notable modern beauties have very mixed typing, with paradoxical essences thrown in. When you look at old Hollywood starlets, it’s a very structural and archetypical form of beauty standards. Nowadays what we know as “naturally pretty” always has a strong underlying essence that radiates from within. It’s not enough to just be technically “pretty.” According to kibble, you must purely honor your structural lines. It’s just not enough for our layered modern idealizations of beauty. Kibbie was brilliant in his original work.. but just like with anything, groundbreaking original ideas will get refined and reassessed with time into better understanding.
The types being euro centric is def a problem ive noticed, but I think it can be adgusted to not be so euro-centric. Ive seen different ppl type ppl differently and i notice that some ppl type in far more/less eurocentric ways than others. To me, the basics dont seem euro centric, but the specifics of how many ppl type often are. Same thing w color seasons.
I also would add that if you look at your parents it’s a good indicator. How their lines have “mixed” have made you. I’m Mediterranean which means I’m European but I’m built a little different so I am too muscular and curvy for these charts. I still look at bone structure for clues.
Ugh, thank you so much for that video. I always thought Selena was a soft gamine because her face is so cute. And now I really understand why I personally look so different in oversized (more soft natural) clothes. People kept telling me I was too skinny when I wore those lines and whenever I wear soft gamine clothes, people are more likely to tell me I look great (yet they don't understand why I prefer that type of clothes). I think the untrained eye can still see if someone looks their best or a bit off but they can barely put their finger on the reason. They might just say "Oh you can wear anything, that's so unfair." and that's bugging me. I wish people could just see the beauty in themselves too. Every body type is amazing and is blooming in certain clothes or drowning/overpowered/looking off in other clothes. I really don't like the fact that there's this beauty standard that makes some people think they are not beautiful enough. That's basically just not true. Maybe you don't look too great in SN or R clothing but maybe you look amazing in D clothing, just try it out and embrace yourself.
Yes! Thank you for your comment. This is why I tell people if you're confused between let's say gamine and romantic, simply try the different clothing recommendations and see which looks better (this is often easier than training your eye fully to see the lines of your body). People can usually tell if they look 'off' or if the clothing looks separate from them. :)
Yes, Everything you say! I'm a huge fan of people embracing their natural beauty, and pulling it off with systems like kibbe and coolour analysis. These systems don't care about trends, what colours and styles are in fashion that month. Mostly only catering to very specific people. Instead, they show that, with the right clothes/make-up/colours and whatelse, every woman (and man!) can look amazing. Whenever I talk about this, people also nag at me because I happen to be moderately pretty and skinny (skinny soft classic type and in between warm and soft autumn in seasonal colour analysis, sunlit soft autumn in Lora Alexander's colorbreeze system). But, hey! Black makes me look like a ghost, loose, oversized stuff makes me drown and look even more frail. (unless i's very soft, for cozyness, because that's nice...) With the wrong things, I can look terrible too. But I don't because I care to learn what looks good on me, and not what looks good on a flamboyant natural deep winter.
Finally! I think you nailed it. Other experts haven't put this together as you have. Even read somewhere to "dress the face" (and don't consider the body type??) Although this is complicated to figure out- it makes perfect sense. Notice that a smaller head makes the person appear taller. A larger head gives a shorter appearance (more doll-like) as Aly Art has pointed out. I really appreciate the work you've done on this. Thank you!
Omg this is so true! People think I’m so tall due to proportions and are always surprised when they stand next to me lol. Having a dramatic build at 5’9” makes ppl think I’m much taller. I don’t think I’m tall and am surprised when I stand next to other dramatics that I thought were way tall and we are the same height 😂 it’s a humbling reminder of how far away I am from a romantic. *sigh*
I like your analyses. I am SN and that style is depicted as boho, unconstructed. I wonder if you could make an analysis where different body types look the best in their contrast? Like the most glamour look for natural, the most casual look for dramatic as well as their signature look with more photos.
10:00 Selena looks so incredible in the black and white stripe shirt. There are very very subtle differences between Selena's outfit on the right and Sofia's on the left. Selena has no sleeves and more fitted pants, but that doesn't look bad nor does it fit with the Soft Natural type. The only thing I can think of that makes both of these outfits work for Selena is the color being carried from the top half to the bottom.
This is incredibly clarifying, especially the plentiful photos of them dressing with and against their lines. I've also noticed there are many celebrities who I resemble in the face but not the body, and this was such a good exploration of that. Thank you so much!
I thought I was dramatic classic, but I have such a baby face so when I wear clothes that are what I consider to be dramatic classic, I just look like a kid playing dress up. My face definitely doesn't match my body type.
sound like some sort of gamine to me. also seems many people think big/broad is dramatic when big/broad is natural. dramatic = long & NARROW, natural = long & wide or moderate & wide/broad.
@@schadenfreudeegoism7485 i assure you, no dramatic has a baby face. if you are not some sort of natural, look at gamine. dramatic is long, sharp and narrow. they dont have width. ive found many people confuse being thin or underweight the same as being sharp & angular - but it is not. most people who think their face and body dont match tend to be some sort of gamine. because that is what gamines are, a juxtaposition of yin and yang.
It really helped me! My answers are quite similar to hers, I have a soft natural face but it doesn't apply to my body. I thought I was FG because of some misinterpretation of my body features but I really don't look good on geometrics and I actually look quite soft regarding bust, butt, face and waistline LOL I was right in the beginning, went too far but I came back to SG. Thank you!
Hi Merriam, thank you for this video and all of your content! I could not have found a better video to clarify which type am I. I was switching back and forth from SG and SN. I also have a SG face like Selena and have been called "looking like a teenager" my whole life! I guess others were typing me by my face. I now can have some peace of mind that I am a SN and will try to keep this in mind when purchasing clothes. Thanks again! xoxoxo - Jenny
Merriam you are doing a fantastic job of drawing out Kibbe's typing system. I come here to learn about the types and I am really starting to 'get it" so THANK YOU! Would you consider making a video on the Kibbe test? I know you go into it in many of your videos and that you refer us to Aly's test video but YOU do such a great job of explaining and getting to the actual real deal about how to correctly and accurately complete the questions, that if it was here on your channel it would be a real asset to us all. And also a series on each type as a guide to what's what and what's not from your perspective would be a real hit. PS I don't know why you don't have way more thumbs up considering how on point you are and the number of views. I wish people were more generous in appreciating the work you are putting in.
Yay that's great news, the more content out there about this system the better! Looking forward to whenever you can make that happen. You really have a grasp of it and that's why it's making sense. I think keep at it and when everyone on mass realises how accurate this system is your channel will go off big time!
Please contrast soft gamine with soft classic; (especially if you have quite narrow shoulders, yet lean more toward soft classic in body, although a little hippy for classic, FACE is more toward soft gamine. In addition, please begin to use some MUCH older women in all your examples I am nearly 70!). -Also, in doing color analysis, please include natural grey/silver haired women in your examples and explanations, as I find it often makes a huge difference in what colors do for you, overall, -although most color analysis that I am familiar with seem to discount this changing your best colors (I am medium to dark olive skinned...(STRONGLY green undertoned) but with long natural grey hair... that I am keeping! And yes... women my age definitely care about getting their best look, and there are a lot of us out here! Keep up your excellent work, Merriam!
@Gigi CS Thank you for our comment. I am trying to learn as much as I can, but there is always the added challenge of accommodating my 65 year old body, I refuse to color my hair-- it is white. I thought I was a soft natural for the longest time but now I don't know if I am actually a soft classic or even a soft gamine. I love the way @merriamstyle helps us get beyond stereotypes and really look at the various factors that add up to a particular type. However there is something about age that alters how we express our style. And I am not talking about excess body fat-- I am perhaps 15 pounds overweight but surely it does not alter my entire Kibbe type. Maybe I ask too much of one "system".
She could show different celebrities that are soft natural. I think it helps people compare themselves. When I saw Aly Art show Britney Spears as a soft natural it verified for me that I was too because I have a similar body.
Great video! My body is definitely more of a romantic type while my face has some soft classic elements. I guess they kind of go together? 🤷 It's hard to figure it out!
A lot of this is done on Hollywood hotties. Could you do one typing famous (female) politicians from around the world? Like Golda Meyer, Margaret Thatcher, Vigdis Finnbogadottir, Erna Solberg, Inger Støjberg, Margot Wallström, and so forth? They might be more relatable to us regular women than the hotties.
female politicians is an excellent idea! I think the reason though why Hollywood celebs is so easy is because they have pictures with minimal clothing (like beach paparazzi pictures) which makes it easier to see their body's outline and type them, but I definitely prefer the politicians idea
A means Dramatic lines B Means Natural lines C means classic lines D means Theatrical romantic E mean romantic lines I think, these basically are from the kibbe test that Ally Art put up on her channel :) hope that helped.
@@colochossalvajes awesome! I always get an even mix of answers C D E, and a few As, the least I get Is B, I still feel like I'm a bit broad for a TR or Gamine, I'm still confused 😂
Can someone explain to me why their noses are answer B? Is it because of the height of the bridge? They look soft and round to me but there could be tiny bit of bluntness I guess, though overall they look soft.
Great video! I still have a problem typing Soft Gamine and Soft Natural: they both have a yang bonestructure and yin flesh? I think I am a SG, and I don't feel comfortable in SN clothes, but I'm scared I'm not seeing myself objectively, because I gravitate more towards colours and patterns etc. Any advice?
What I notice with Naturals is that their skeletons, limbs especially, tend to be proportionate to their overall height and appearance. With Gamines, there are one or two bone structures that don't look proportionate to the overall appearance. It may be either too short or too long, or too small or too large. As for SG vs TR, SG has a dominant Yang on Bone Structure and Facial Bone, while TR has a dominant Yin on Bone Structure and Facial Bone.
Yes! By definition, a natural, dramatic, classic, and romantic will all have 'proportional' skeletons in the sense that their answers for the skeleton are all the same answer. So for a natural, their arms and legs are long and broad, their shoulders are broad, their vertical line is long, their hands and feet are large and broad. So it's all the same aka 'proportional'. For a gamine, they could have a mixture of anything--short legs, but long vertical line.....long legs but rounded shoulders....etc.
Thats such a good point! What about best makeup/hair? For someone who has “face does not match body kibbe type”, if they want to look their best on a photo that is showing just their neck and face, then they need to match their makeup and hair to the kibbe type of their face only? but for them to look best overall (when the full body is shown) they need to use the gamine makeup/hair instead?
This is fun! I look like Aurora in my face, but we have a different body type, I'm Gamine and she's a Natural, probably soft as well. Totally different lines! I can't have a low contrast face like hers, I need the contrasting make-up of a Gamine haha
It would be amazing if you did more videos like this. I think there are alot of us out there whose face/ body do not match. I am 5'2 have a mixed bone dellicate, small, slightly ingenue face and very bone wide romantic body. Theatrical romantic looks aren't quite right, gamine looks do not work, so I end up leaning into soft classic. There are so many possible combos of face and body not matching ... noone is really putting out videos on how to create balance. Just a thought :)
Hey Merriam, love your videos. I was wondering if you could do more videos on colour analysis. I found an interesting photo on Instagram with several women wearing lavender gowns and it didn't seem right on any of them. What season can pull off lavender. Can there be shades of warm and cool in lavender?
Love this! Can you do a video comparing soft natural vs soft classic? My face appears to be soft natural while my body is soft classic, but I feel way more like myself dressing as a classic than a soft natural. So is it possible to be a soft classic with more natural facial features?
Very interesting video as always, Merriam! And I agree that Selena Gomez and Sofia Solares are different types because they have very different body types. But both of them are very beautiful anyway! :)
@@mishynaofficial "There is such info on the Internet, but short" Not so fast, this forum here has all of the descriptions for each type. I've found it very helpful, as I'm a Soft Gamine and the visual representations for my type on Pinterest are too cutesy. www.tapatalk.com/groups/colorconnection/metamorphosis-david-kibbe-f129/
I love your videos but I feel like I still have a really poor understanding of which lines are for each body type? Pretty please could you do a video explaining what the lines are for each type? I'm really struggling to find this info. Thanks!!!
I have a theory that my sister might be a SG with an SN face, like Sofia here. I originally thought she was SN, but her vertical line is short and she looks daintier. Her quiz answers are similar to mine, and she had a mixture of Yin and Yang answers. Her answers for facial bones and flesh are the same as Selena and Sofia's, except her eyes are answer A. It's interesting to see, because she looks good in Gamine/Soft Gamine lines, and cute and small in Natural lines.
What about dressing your body for the lines in your body, but doing your hair to match your face?? My face has more blunt angles, while my body is sharp. I think my face looks bad in sleek sculpted hair. Would it look bad to have FN hair, but dress dramatic?
I have a question about the flesh portion of the test, I'm not quite sure what it's dependent on, on how much fat is there? Could it change if someone lost weight or became more muscular?
I always thought Selena had smaaaaaaall shoulders! But really they can handle the fashion portrayed. Bone structure is so freaking diverse I’m learning…because if Selena had a narrow face everything would look different
I've watched this video so many times! Could you do one of these videos on Nina Dobrev and Victoria Justice? They are literally twins but still somehow different
Some people have been comparing Beyoncé and Kim kardashian lately. I would love to see a deep dive since Kim is often classified as romantic or SD. I see her as SN with surgical enhancements!
Hey, I retook the Kibbe test and got: A-5, B-1, C-2, D-5, E-3. I am so confused. What types could this be?? My measurements are Bust-35, Waist-32, Hip-44.
The conclusion from comparing these two examples seems to be that it’s your body, not your face, that determines your Kibbe type. However this doesn’t sound right. Still confused.
M Y they look similar, but not exactly the same. I think it’s the mouth and eyebrows. And possibly the face shape. If you told me they’re related, I’d believe it
I an curious about vertical line - what about celebrities who are tall but look short? For instance I am 5’10 but I think if you saw a picture of me by myself you’d guess that i’m 5’3 or 5’4
So what I did is google weight, hight and messurments of celebreties and compared the ones that where the closest to my bodys measurments. They are all TR which also fits the tests I did and what looks good on me. I am slightly too tall for soft gamine...
My face has primarily, if not all C answers, & my body is D & E answers. Since I don't have Yang answers to make a gaminish contrast, what am I supposed to do? Even Aly Art didn't have a category for this in her video test.
I'm 1.63 cm, flat chest, moderate waist, long arms, muscular legs, the meat in my bones is just moderate with long slim arms and regular feet, sloped but tapered shoulders, straight but wide hips, slightly close together eyes (bedroom eyes) roftly rounded nose, slightly full and rounded lips, moderate jaw and cheekbones, and soft cheeks. What am i?
Hi! A video request : What if you get the majority answers D? I have not found any information online other than others also noticing that Kibbe (?) doesn't say anything about type D's. I have 7D, 3C, 3E, 3B and 1A/B, and I have no idea what that makes me... I love your Kibbe videos, and I would love if you made one on type D's. Love from Sweden 🧡❤️🧡
Judging from your answers, you should consider Soft Classic or, if you were unsure about your answers sometimes, Theatrical Romantic :) I've seen many theories about the "d" answer. Some claim it's Ingenue and I've seen one beauty guru claim that it's "classic essence with romantic influences". Whoever's right, one thing's for sure: It has something to do with softness (yin) but not straight up the romantic softness. Hope I helped. Don't take the test too seriously if you feel like SC or TR isn't your bodytype btw. Judge by yourself! Take a photo of your body and compare it with celebrities and most importantly, see what clothes make your feminine features pop! (lol I CANNOT write short answers lmao sorry)
It will be helpful to know which are your Ds. Did you get more Ds in the facial features or bone structure? You might be TR if your facial features are Ds. SC if your facial features are mostly C.
I feel like my face is far more yang than my body. I feel 90% sure I’m an SN, but my nose and chin (think Jennifer Aniston chin) are prominent. My nose is fairly sharp and my cheeks lean towards “flat” than broad or rounded due to high, somewhat prominent cheekbones. It’s an odd feeling.
I relate I'm pretty sure I'm romantic body SC face with SC essence I def have romantic essence too but it's just a mismatch bc I cannot wear a lot of those SC lines.
So I have heard that soft naturals have medium -small hands and feet, arms medium-shorter but my hands and feet are quite big (7.25 inche hands, US size 9 feet) and long arms (longer than my height which I heard had to be the same) my shoulders aren’t broad but not sharp either. I think I am a soft natural because soft natural lines look good on me imo. I feel so disproportionate 😢
@@merriamstyle Yaay!! I can't wait! I love love love your videos! I think learning about the Kibbe system has helped me feel more confident in my own skin! I'm a gamine and seeing style icons that are gamines too really help me feel more confident about having a petite adolescent-looking body haha Thank you for the quality content!!
I am a FN, and I am always thrown off when Selena Gomez is listed as a Natural because her face looks so soft, plump, and youthful to me (like a SG or SR). I appreciate this video in noting that sometimes the face and body "Don't match," but to be sure to dress with the entire body in mind.
I know you've said that people shouldn't dress themselves just for their face (like Sofia dressing herself for her soft natural face even though she's a soft gamine) but what about dressing yourself for your body? Or dressing yourself for your body and doing your hair and makeup for your face (if what I'm saying makes sense)?
This is super helpful. My face is obviously gamine but my body is a mix of A, C, and D answers and I'm 5'9." NO answers in E or B. I'm not sure if I'm flamgam or dramatic classic. Either lines seem to work for me.
Merriam Style I did!! I have a lot of A answers but look bad in dramatic lines and am clearly not soft dramatic. That leaves DC and FG. Are you saying that if you look better in broken lines and fun patterns that makes you a FG?
@@peggy-sue-reads-a-book I find it is helpful to divide oneself into 3 parts: Skeleton (including jaw), facial features (including nose and cheekbones) and flesh (of the body). To give an example: I am a flamboyant gamine. My skeleton is A-dominant, my flesh is A-dominant, and my facial features are E/D dominant. So, I have a sharp yang skeleton and yang flesh with a yin face. This matches with the description in the test: "...Your bone structure and body type (flesh) should be Yang-dominate while your features and stature are Yin-dominate. Your facial bones will be from the strong, Yang side. " The test says this about dramatic classics: "...Your body type (flesh) and features should be primarily balanced between the extremes of Yin and Yang while your bone structure should be more Yang-influenced. " I hope this was helpful.
Silver Roxen I’m a SG too!! I feel that Ariana grande’s a flamboyant gamine, she definitely has that obvious child like element when she doesn’t wear gamine clothes! 🌻💕
I have heard about Inguene and actually Merriam has a video about it her on her channel. It`s another theory. Not Kibbe`s, but I think some people both can be a Kibbe-type and Inguene, Angelic etc.
if they are all D then you're a pure theatrical romantic if there is a mixture in the answers then check aly art video . for example i have a mixture of C and E answers and i am a soft classic.
I'm so confused. I took the test and came up as Soft Natural (I'm pretty sure it's right) , but I'm only 5 1' (1,55) and feel like a lot of SN clothes don't really compliment my hobbit height. Any help? :(
romantic? for example, drew barrymore's bones may seem a little bit wider, and she may look a little bit wider, and this can be mislabeled as Natural bones but really since her bones are short, they are romantic bones. how do you look in romantic clothing? Another option is soft gamine. Also, you could try my video titled 'Confused by the Kibbe test, try this', where I talk about how to find your kibbe type through clothes.
@@merriamstyle I have just seen the video you mention and.. I'm getting to the conclusion that I'm just a very short soft natural and clothes are usually made for taller people, that is why almost every piece of clothes is freaking long on me. I don't think romantic fits me as I don't have an hourglass figure (small hips, slightly defined waist, small boobs) and my bone structure is definitely blunt. Also I think I look a bit manly on romantic clothes. I can definitely get away with some G outfits but not all, sometimes they make me feel too childish. Thank you for your response, your videos are great! 😊
Soft naturals can be short! I am 5"3 and just understood after one year of kibbe study (!!) That I was a soft natural. I wish I never heard that only gamine can be small because it really isn't true. You must be a soft natural too!
A soft natural in general will look ok in any natural clothing because that's their subtype. Same for soft gamine--will look ok in gamine and flamboyant gamine clothing because those are all the gamine type. But for a gamine, maybe she wouldn't look as good in theatrical romantic clothing because that's now the romantic type and not the gamine type. Hope that makes sense! The same logic applies to naturals, and all other types. :)
Could you talk more about soft dramatic . Or could you add pictures of viewers and type them??? I don’t know what to type myself. I did the test about 4 times the first two times it came out as soft natural, but then the last two came as theatrical romantic. But I think I’m a soft dramatic I’m about 5’5”
Andromache Rey thank you for you response I am quite fleshy and have a small but sharp jaw, rounded nose small fleshy lips. In body I have long arms and legs compared to my torso, but I am a 34 DD and although my hips aren’t very rounded I have a noticeable waistline and sharp bone structure like shoulders . And rib cage, I have narrow but long hands and feet, and my arms and legs get fleshy in the upper part. My face gets really fleshy when overweight
So I think the SN face did match her body, but the gamine's face did not. Is it therefore safe to say that having a mismatch in face and body is squarely a gamine thing?
Amy Adams and Isla Fischer!
my face and my body looked seperated based on the kibbe body types. and i thought i was just the only one... until i realized that the kibbe body types are very *euro-centric* (especially with facial features) and i'm asian. and so i take the facial features with a grain of salt. btw! i'm soft natural after much examining of my body.
i hope that makes more sense! 🤞💕
Yes, and it’s a very old-school archetypical way of classifying types. Modern beauty standards value a more unique, fresh, and almost incongruent/paradoxical type of look. I feel like notable modern beauties have very mixed typing, with paradoxical essences thrown in. When you look at old Hollywood starlets, it’s a very structural and archetypical form of beauty standards. Nowadays what we know as “naturally pretty” always has a strong underlying essence that radiates from within. It’s not enough to just be technically “pretty.” According to kibble, you must purely honor your structural lines. It’s just not enough for our layered modern idealizations of beauty. Kibbie was brilliant in his original work.. but just like with anything, groundbreaking original ideas will get refined and reassessed with time into better understanding.
The types being euro centric is def a problem ive noticed, but I think it can be adgusted to not be so euro-centric. Ive seen different ppl type ppl differently and i notice that some ppl type in far more/less eurocentric ways than others. To me, the basics dont seem euro centric, but the specifics of how many ppl type often are. Same thing w color seasons.
I also would add that if you look at your parents it’s a good indicator. How their lines have “mixed” have made you. I’m Mediterranean which means I’m European but I’m built a little different so I am too muscular and curvy for these charts. I still look at bone structure for clues.
Ugh, thank you so much for that video. I always thought Selena was a soft gamine because her face is so cute. And now I really understand why I personally look so different in oversized (more soft natural) clothes. People kept telling me I was too skinny when I wore those lines and whenever I wear soft gamine clothes, people are more likely to tell me I look great (yet they don't understand why I prefer that type of clothes). I think the untrained eye can still see if someone looks their best or a bit off but they can barely put their finger on the reason. They might just say "Oh you can wear anything, that's so unfair." and that's bugging me. I wish people could just see the beauty in themselves too. Every body type is amazing and is blooming in certain clothes or drowning/overpowered/looking off in other clothes. I really don't like the fact that there's this beauty standard that makes some people think they are not beautiful enough. That's basically just not true. Maybe you don't look too great in SN or R clothing but maybe you look amazing in D clothing, just try it out and embrace yourself.
Yes! Thank you for your comment. This is why I tell people if you're confused between let's say gamine and romantic, simply try the different clothing recommendations and see which looks better (this is often easier than training your eye fully to see the lines of your body). People can usually tell if they look 'off' or if the clothing looks separate from them. :)
Yes, Everything you say! I'm a huge fan of people embracing their natural beauty, and pulling it off with systems like kibbe and coolour analysis. These systems don't care about trends, what colours and styles are in fashion that month. Mostly only catering to very specific people. Instead, they show that, with the right clothes/make-up/colours and whatelse, every woman (and man!) can look amazing. Whenever I talk about this, people also nag at me because I happen to be moderately pretty and skinny (skinny soft classic type and in between warm and soft autumn in seasonal colour analysis, sunlit soft autumn in Lora Alexander's colorbreeze system). But, hey! Black makes me look like a ghost, loose, oversized stuff makes me drown and look even more frail. (unless i's very soft, for cozyness, because that's nice...) With the wrong things, I can look terrible too. But I don't because I care to learn what looks good on me, and not what looks good on a flamboyant natural deep winter.
Finally! I think you nailed it. Other experts haven't put this together as you have. Even read somewhere to "dress the face" (and don't consider the body type??) Although this is complicated to figure out- it makes perfect sense. Notice that a smaller head makes the person appear taller. A larger head gives a shorter appearance (more doll-like) as Aly Art has pointed out. I really appreciate the work you've done on this. Thank you!
Karen Behymer For group activities I always get put behind people who are the same height as me... I can thank my small head for that 😂
Thank you!!
Omg this is so true! People think I’m so tall due to proportions and are always surprised when they stand next to me lol. Having a dramatic build at 5’9” makes ppl think I’m much taller. I don’t think I’m tall and am surprised when I stand next to other dramatics that I thought were way tall and we are the same height 😂 it’s a humbling reminder of how far away I am from a romantic. *sigh*
@@TB-rx1ue I'm only 1m66, but people guess me 1.72 - 1.76, aka much taller because I have dramatic tendencies. It's annoying.
@@gittevandevelde2208 No way! I guessed you were at least my height (5"6, 169 cm) based only on your profile picture!
Mila Kunis & Sarah hyland is a good one 🙂
I like your analyses. I am SN and that style is depicted as boho, unconstructed. I wonder if you could make an analysis where different body types look the best in their contrast? Like the most glamour look for natural, the most casual look for dramatic as well as their signature look with more photos.
Your voice is calming . Your explanation and take on things is thoughtful and respectable. I love your videos.
Enlightening!!! Thank you for this ♡
10:00 Selena looks so incredible in the black and white stripe shirt. There are very very subtle differences between Selena's outfit on the right and Sofia's on the left. Selena has no sleeves and more fitted pants, but that doesn't look bad nor does it fit with the Soft Natural type. The only thing I can think of that makes both of these outfits work for Selena is the color being carried from the top half to the bottom.
Thank you so much! 💕
This is incredibly clarifying, especially the plentiful photos of them dressing with and against their lines. I've also noticed there are many celebrities who I resemble in the face but not the body, and this was such a good exploration of that. Thank you so much!
You should do more videos about soft natural
I can't thank you enough for your brilliant explanation
I love this video, really helped to understand this
Can you do a video on soft classic vs romantics?? I’m on the edge between those two
Me too!!!
height is the number 1 difference between them romantics are 5'5 and shorter , s dramatics are 5'7 and taller
+sam ch yes but you can be taller and have none of the characteristics of a soft dramatic, so height isn’t always relevant
It would be cool to compare and contrast softies (soft natural, soft classic) to romantics.
I thought I was dramatic classic, but I have such a baby face so when I wear clothes that are what I consider to be dramatic classic, I just look like a kid playing dress up. My face definitely doesn't match my body type.
Same my body is a dramatic and I have a baby face
sound like some sort of gamine to me. also seems many people think big/broad is dramatic when big/broad is natural. dramatic = long & NARROW, natural = long & wide or moderate & wide/broad.
@@schadenfreudeegoism7485 i assure you, no dramatic has a baby face. if you are not some sort of natural, look at gamine. dramatic is long, sharp and narrow. they dont have width. ive found many people confuse being thin or underweight the same as being sharp & angular - but it is not. most people who think their face and body dont match tend to be some sort of gamine. because that is what gamines are, a juxtaposition of yin and yang.
It really helped me! My answers are quite similar to hers, I have a soft natural face but it doesn't apply to my body. I thought I was FG because of some misinterpretation of my body features but I really don't look good on geometrics and I actually look quite soft regarding bust, butt, face and waistline LOL I was right in the beginning, went too far but I came back to SG. Thank you!
Natalie Portman and Keira Knightley?
Alsu Zaynutdinova ooh, good idea!
The are gamine
@@papl20 I'm almost certain Knightly is some sort of dramatic. Her features are all very sharp and dry.
@@elektraeriseros knightly is dramatic
@@papl20 Knightley is tall and long, definitely a dramatic.
Gamines are small
Hi Merriam, thank you for this video and all of your content! I could not have found a better video to clarify which type am I. I was switching back and forth from SG and SN. I also have a SG face like Selena and have been called "looking like a teenager" my whole life! I guess others were typing me by my face. I now can have some peace of mind that I am a SN and will try to keep this in mind when purchasing clothes. Thanks again! xoxoxo - Jenny
Know this is an older video but do you think since kibbe has typed Selena as a TR this video still works?
That helped me soo much, thank you!
Merriam you are doing a fantastic job of drawing out Kibbe's typing system. I come here to learn about the types and I am really starting to 'get it" so THANK YOU!
Would you consider making a video on the Kibbe test? I know you go into it in many of your videos and that you refer us to Aly's test video but YOU do such a great job of explaining and getting to the actual real deal about how to correctly and accurately complete the questions, that if it was here on your channel it would be a real asset to us all.
And also a series on each type as a guide to what's what and what's not from your perspective would be a real hit.
PS I don't know why you don't have way more thumbs up considering how on point you are and the number of views. I wish people were more generous in appreciating the work you are putting in.
Thank you!!! Yes, I think I'm getting to a point where I need to make a Kibbe body types test video, and a Kibbe body types description video.
Yay that's great news, the more content out there about this system the better! Looking forward to whenever you can make that happen. You really have a grasp of it and that's why it's making sense. I think keep at it and when everyone on mass realises how accurate this system is your channel will go off big time!
Please contrast soft gamine with soft classic; (especially if you have quite narrow shoulders, yet lean more toward soft classic in body, although a little hippy for classic, FACE is more toward soft gamine. In addition, please begin to use some MUCH older women in all your examples I am nearly 70!).
-Also, in doing color analysis, please include natural grey/silver haired women in your examples and explanations, as I find it often makes a huge difference in what colors do for you, overall, -although most color analysis that I am familiar with seem to discount this changing your best colors (I am medium to dark olive skinned...(STRONGLY green undertoned) but with long natural grey hair... that I am keeping! And yes... women my age definitely care about getting their best look, and there are a lot of us out here! Keep up your excellent work, Merriam!
Thank you so much for your comment!
@Gigi CS Thank you for our comment. I am trying to learn as much as I can, but there is always the added challenge of accommodating my 65 year old body, I refuse to color my hair-- it is white. I thought I was a soft natural for the longest time but now I don't know if I am actually a soft classic or even a soft gamine. I love the way @merriamstyle helps us get beyond stereotypes and really look at the various factors that add up to a particular type. However there is something about age that alters how we express our style. And I am not talking about excess body fat-- I am perhaps 15 pounds overweight but surely it does not alter my entire Kibbe type. Maybe I ask too much of one "system".
Love this! Please do more videos on soft natural :)
Jayden T I second this!
She could show different celebrities that are soft natural. I think it helps people compare themselves. When I saw Aly Art show Britney Spears as a soft natural it verified for me that I was too because I have a similar body.
Great video!
My body is definitely more of a romantic type while my face has some soft classic elements. I guess they kind of go together? 🤷 It's hard to figure it out!
Hi Merriam,
Great video.
I hope one day I can get a report from you.
👍
A lot of this is done on Hollywood hotties.
Could you do one typing famous (female) politicians from around the world?
Like Golda Meyer, Margaret Thatcher, Vigdis Finnbogadottir, Erna Solberg, Inger Støjberg, Margot Wallström, and so forth?
They might be more relatable to us regular women than the hotties.
Yes! That's a great idea.
female politicians is an excellent idea! I think the reason though why Hollywood celebs is so easy is because they have pictures with minimal clothing (like beach paparazzi pictures) which makes it easier to see their body's outline and type them, but I definitely prefer the politicians idea
I can’t learn anything when you say “answer D”. Is it possible that you could use the adjective too? Great video!
Ok, I'll try to do that!!
Or show a chart while comparing what each letter means.
A means Dramatic lines
B Means Natural lines
C means classic lines
D means Theatrical romantic
E mean romantic lines
I think, these basically are from the kibbe test that Ally Art put up on her channel :) hope that helped.
@@colochossalvajes awesome! I always get an even mix of answers C D E, and a few As, the least I get Is B, I still feel like I'm a bit broad for a TR or Gamine, I'm still confused 😂
I love the video, this is exactly my problem
Can someone explain to me why their noses are answer B? Is it because of the height of the bridge? They look soft and round to me but there could be tiny bit of bluntness I guess, though overall they look soft.
Can you do a video on hair colors for each season?
Great video! I still have a problem typing Soft Gamine and Soft Natural: they both have a yang bonestructure and yin flesh?
I think I am a SG, and I don't feel comfortable in SN clothes, but I'm scared I'm not seeing myself objectively, because I gravitate more towards colours and patterns etc. Any advice?
selena has now been typed TR by kibbe
What I notice with Naturals is that their skeletons, limbs especially, tend to be proportionate to their overall height and appearance. With Gamines, there are one or two bone structures that don't look proportionate to the overall appearance. It may be either too short or too long, or too small or too large. As for SG vs TR, SG has a dominant Yang on Bone Structure and Facial Bone, while TR has a dominant Yin on Bone Structure and Facial Bone.
Yes! By definition, a natural, dramatic, classic, and romantic will all have 'proportional' skeletons in the sense that their answers for the skeleton are all the same answer. So for a natural, their arms and legs are long and broad, their shoulders are broad, their vertical line is long, their hands and feet are large and broad. So it's all the same aka 'proportional'. For a gamine, they could have a mixture of anything--short legs, but long vertical line.....long legs but rounded shoulders....etc.
Please do classic! :)
Thats such a good point! What about best makeup/hair? For someone who has “face does not match body kibbe type”, if they want to look their best on a photo that is showing just their neck and face, then they need to match their makeup and hair to the kibbe type of their face only? but for them to look best overall (when the full body is shown) they need to use the gamine makeup/hair instead?
This is fun! I look like Aurora in my face, but we have a different body type, I'm Gamine and she's a Natural, probably soft as well. Totally different lines! I can't have a low contrast face like hers, I need the contrasting make-up of a Gamine haha
It would be amazing if you did more videos like this. I think there are alot of us out there whose face/ body do not match. I am 5'2 have a mixed bone dellicate, small, slightly ingenue face and very bone wide romantic body. Theatrical romantic looks aren't quite right, gamine looks do not work, so I end up leaning into soft classic. There are so many possible combos of face and body not matching ... noone is really putting out videos on how to create balance. Just a thought :)
Hey Merriam, love your videos. I was wondering if you could do more videos on colour analysis. I found an interesting photo on Instagram with several women wearing lavender gowns and it didn't seem right on any of them. What season can pull off lavender. Can there be shades of warm and cool in lavender?
more on SN.... it can be confused because make up can change el appearence of the face proportions....
Love this! Can you do a video comparing soft natural vs soft classic? My face appears to be soft natural while my body is soft classic, but I feel way more like myself dressing as a classic than a soft natural. So is it possible to be a soft classic with more natural facial features?
Yvonne C this is my struggle too exactly!!
Very interesting video as always, Merriam! And I agree that Selena Gomez and Sofia Solares are different types because they have very different body types. But both of them are very beautiful anyway! :)
I guess you're right about that TR always should have shiny make up :)
@@mishynaofficial "There is such info on the Internet, but short"
Not so fast, this forum here has all of the descriptions for each type. I've found it very helpful, as I'm a Soft Gamine and the visual representations for my type on Pinterest are too cutesy.
www.tapatalk.com/groups/colorconnection/metamorphosis-david-kibbe-f129/
Great video ;) Could you tell me what body type has Alexis Bledel? I was thinking about FG...
Thank you your videos are so helping I want more soft gamine videos!
My face is soft dramatic but my body is flamboyant natural, don't know which one to go with
I love your videos but I feel like I still have a really poor understanding of which lines are for each body type? Pretty please could you do a video explaining what the lines are for each type? I'm really struggling to find this info. Thanks!!!
I have a theory that my sister might be a SG with an SN face, like Sofia here. I originally thought she was SN, but her vertical line is short and she looks daintier. Her quiz answers are similar to mine, and she had a mixture of Yin and Yang answers. Her answers for facial bones and flesh are the same as Selena and Sofia's, except her eyes are answer A. It's interesting to see, because she looks good in Gamine/Soft Gamine lines, and cute and small in Natural lines.
Can u do the difference between dramatic classic and flamboyant natural
What about dressing your body for the lines in your body, but doing your hair to match your face?? My face has more blunt angles, while my body is sharp. I think my face looks bad in sleek sculpted hair. Would it look bad to have FN hair, but dress dramatic?
I have a question about the flesh portion of the test, I'm not quite sure what it's dependent on, on how much fat is there? Could it change if someone lost weight or became more muscular?
Wow, I can hardly tell these two women apart.
I always thought Selena had smaaaaaaall shoulders! But really they can handle the fashion portrayed. Bone structure is so freaking diverse I’m learning…because if Selena had a narrow face everything would look different
I am definitely soft natural and if I knew it when I was younger I had never made so many style mistakes over the years. v :-D
I've watched this video so many times! Could you do one of these videos on Nina Dobrev and Victoria Justice? They are literally twins but still somehow different
Some people have been comparing Beyoncé and Kim kardashian lately. I would love to see a deep dive since Kim is often classified as romantic or SD. I see her as SN with surgical enhancements!
Hey, I retook the Kibbe test and got: A-5, B-1, C-2, D-5, E-3. I am so confused. What types could this be?? My measurements are Bust-35, Waist-32, Hip-44.
The conclusion from comparing these two examples seems to be that it’s your body, not your face, that determines your Kibbe type. However this doesn’t sound right. Still confused.
Am I the only one who thinks Selena and Sofia don’t really look that similar? 🤷🏻♀️
Selena's cheeks look fuller to me. Other than that their faces are similar, but something about the eyes looks different to me too.
True... the nose is VERY different as well...
M Y they look similar, but not exactly the same. I think it’s the mouth and eyebrows. And possibly the face shape. If you told me they’re related, I’d believe it
When Selena smiles, her muscles show more. Sofia's cheeks remain soft though. Her face is not a "natural" after all, imo.
@@il5702 I think you're right, Sofia has a cute baby face with soft cheeks a big forehead and her bones are more delicate than a natural.
I an curious about vertical line - what about celebrities who are tall but look short? For instance I am 5’10 but I think if you saw a picture of me by myself you’d guess that i’m 5’3 or 5’4
I have soft dramatic body but classic face like how ???
So what I did is google weight, hight and messurments of celebreties and compared the ones that where the closest to my bodys measurments. They are all TR which also fits the tests I did and what looks good on me. I am slightly too tall for soft gamine...
Can you do a video on romantics?
Hi my body is romantic inginue but I have no idea what my face is?
I have TR face with equal amount N and G for body. What type am I? Help plz.
My face has primarily, if not all C answers, & my body is D & E answers. Since I don't have Yang answers to make a gaminish contrast, what am I supposed to do? Even Aly Art didn't have a category for this in her video test.
I have the same, Soft Classic face but Soft Gamine sized body, so I think soft classic clothing with a touch of gamine probably work best.
zoey deschanel and katy perry!
Theatrical romantic
Hi, sorry that my question is not related to the vid, but can a Gamine wear Soft Gamine clothes and still look somewhat okay?
My understanding is that yes, it would look ok, as it's the same family of lines. You just wouldn't look your absolute best.
I'm 1.63 cm, flat chest, moderate waist, long arms, muscular legs, the meat in my bones is just moderate with long slim arms and regular feet, sloped but tapered shoulders, straight but wide hips, slightly close together eyes (bedroom eyes) roftly rounded nose, slightly full and rounded lips, moderate jaw and cheekbones, and soft cheeks. What am i?
Hi! A video request : What if you get the majority answers D? I have not found any information online other than others also noticing that Kibbe (?) doesn't say anything about type D's.
I have 7D, 3C, 3E, 3B and 1A/B, and I have no idea what that makes me...
I love your Kibbe videos, and I would love if you made one on type D's.
Love from Sweden 🧡❤️🧡
Judging from your answers, you should consider Soft Classic or, if you were unsure about your answers sometimes, Theatrical Romantic :)
I've seen many theories about the "d" answer. Some claim it's Ingenue and I've seen one beauty guru claim that it's "classic essence with romantic influences". Whoever's right, one thing's for sure: It has something to do with softness (yin) but not straight up the romantic softness. Hope I helped. Don't take the test too seriously if you feel like SC or TR isn't your bodytype btw. Judge by yourself! Take a photo of your body and compare it with celebrities and most importantly, see what clothes make your feminine features pop! (lol I CANNOT write short answers lmao sorry)
It will be helpful to know which are your Ds. Did you get more Ds in the facial features or bone structure? You might be TR if your facial features are Ds. SC if your facial features are mostly C.
It would be interesting to also know what type Sarah Jeffrey is. She is their triplet.
I feel like my face is far more yang than my body. I feel 90% sure I’m an SN, but my nose and chin (think Jennifer Aniston chin) are prominent. My nose is fairly sharp and my cheeks lean towards “flat” than broad or rounded due to high, somewhat prominent cheekbones. It’s an odd feeling.
I relate I'm pretty sure I'm romantic body SC face with SC essence I def have romantic essence too but it's just a mismatch bc I cannot wear a lot of those SC lines.
Damn they look almost identical
So I have heard that soft naturals have medium -small hands and feet, arms medium-shorter but my hands and feet are quite big (7.25 inche hands, US size 9 feet) and long arms (longer than my height which I heard had to be the same) my shoulders aren’t broad but not sharp either. I think I am a soft natural because soft natural lines look good on me imo. I feel so disproportionate 😢
What if we have large ankles as a TR?
Selena’s features are more refined than Sophia’s .
I always get between 57 to 69 which doesn’t have a kibbe body type! Any advice for someone like me? What if you don’t fall into one of the 13 types?
My face is Soft Natural and my body Dramatic Classic, what I am? 😂
I used to think I was TR, but now I think I'm SG... Oh gosh... Haha
please do zooey deschanel and katy perry!!
omg great idea!!
@@merriamstyle Yaay!! I can't wait! I love love love your videos! I think learning about the Kibbe system has helped me feel more confident in my own skin! I'm a gamine and seeing style icons that are gamines too really help me feel more confident about having a petite adolescent-looking body haha
Thank you for the quality content!!
i‘m a soft gamine but i love natural clothes and i don‘t know how to wear them without drowning in them :(
I am a FN, and I am always thrown off when Selena Gomez is listed as a Natural because her face looks so soft, plump, and youthful to me (like a SG or SR). I appreciate this video in noting that sometimes the face and body "Don't match," but to be sure to dress with the entire body in mind.
What is SR? You mean romantic? Theres no soft romantic.
I know you've said that people shouldn't dress themselves just for their face (like Sofia dressing herself for her soft natural face even though she's a soft gamine) but what about dressing yourself for your body? Or dressing yourself for your body and doing your hair and makeup for your face (if what I'm saying makes sense)?
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m wondering!
Please compare Zoey Deschanel and Katy Perry.
This is super helpful. My face is obviously gamine but my body is a mix of A, C, and D answers and I'm 5'9." NO answers in E or B. I'm not sure if I'm flamgam or dramatic classic. Either lines seem to work for me.
Thank you!
Merriam Style I did!! I have a lot of A answers but look bad in dramatic lines and am clearly not soft dramatic. That leaves DC and FG. Are you saying that if you look better in broken lines and fun patterns that makes you a FG?
@@peggy-sue-reads-a-book I find it is helpful to divide oneself into 3 parts: Skeleton (including jaw), facial features (including nose and cheekbones) and flesh (of the body).
To give an example: I am a flamboyant gamine. My skeleton is A-dominant, my flesh is A-dominant, and my facial features are E/D dominant. So, I have a sharp yang skeleton and yang flesh with a yin face. This matches with the description in the test:
"...Your bone structure and body type (flesh) should be Yang-dominate while your features
and stature are Yin-dominate. Your facial bones will be from the strong, Yang side.
"
The test says this about dramatic classics:
"...Your body type (flesh) and features should be primarily balanced between the extremes
of Yin and Yang while your bone structure should be more Yang-influenced.
"
I hope this was helpful.
@Unneighborly Arcades, yes it was! I went back to the test and now think I’m just a lanky TR, since that’s what I scored.
@@peggy-sue-reads-a-book I'm so glad I could be helpful!
Hmmm what about Ariana grande?
Do you think she’s a gamine (soft/flamboyant)? 🤔🤔
I'm curious about her too, as I'm SG and was considering using her for style inspiration. I'm leaning toward her being an FG though.
Silver Roxen I’m a SG too!! I feel that Ariana grande’s a flamboyant gamine, she definitely has that obvious child like element when she doesn’t wear gamine clothes! 🌻💕
Aly Art once said your body type is complete and unchangeable cca since 22. :) So, Ariana Grande should be Kibbe-typed only based on her latest pics.
She had plastic surgery (nose/eyes/maybe chin) so it would be quite hard to decide
I originally typed myself as TR or SG. Now I am leaning towards FG or SG but the reddit group typed me as SN. Help!
Jlo, shakira and beyonce
what is D in the test, please?? I've got mostly Ds, and there is no explaination. :)
I`ve once heard that Aly Art once said that D is close to theatrical romantic. That David Kibbe has said so himself :)
thank you! some authors mantion Ingenue type - so confusing! :) however, I do feel theatrical romantic clothes look best on me.
I have heard about Inguene and actually Merriam has a video about it her on her channel. It`s another theory. Not Kibbe`s, but I think some people both can be a Kibbe-type and Inguene, Angelic etc.
sure! it's getting clearer now. thank you.
if they are all D then you're a pure theatrical romantic if there is a mixture in the answers then check aly art video . for example i have a mixture of C and E answers and i am a soft classic.
I'm so confused. I took the test and came up as Soft Natural (I'm pretty sure it's right) , but I'm only 5 1' (1,55) and feel like a lot of SN clothes don't really compliment my hobbit height. Any help? :(
romantic? for example, drew barrymore's bones may seem a little bit wider, and she may look a little bit wider, and this can be mislabeled as Natural bones but really since her bones are short, they are romantic bones. how do you look in romantic clothing? Another option is soft gamine. Also, you could try my video titled 'Confused by the Kibbe test, try this', where I talk about how to find your kibbe type through clothes.
@@merriamstyle I have just seen the video you mention and.. I'm getting to the conclusion that I'm just a very short soft natural and clothes are usually made for taller people, that is why almost every piece of clothes is freaking long on me. I don't think romantic fits me as I don't have an hourglass figure (small hips, slightly defined waist, small boobs) and my bone structure is definitely blunt. Also I think I look a bit manly on romantic clothes. I can definitely get away with some G outfits but not all, sometimes they make me feel too childish. Thank you for your response, your videos are great! 😊
I came up as Soft Classic and I am your height too. I think because of the height Soft Gamine probably works best for both of our situations.
Soft naturals can be short! I am 5"3 and just understood after one year of kibbe study (!!) That I was a soft natural. I wish I never heard that only gamine can be small because it really isn't true. You must be a soft natural too!
I think the English actresses Louise Lombard and Michelle Dockery have similar facial features
Imo- no..
So if you’re a soft natural you still can look good on flamboyant natural lines?? 🙂
Andromache Rey thanks a lot !!!
A soft natural in general will look ok in any natural clothing because that's their subtype. Same for soft gamine--will look ok in gamine and flamboyant gamine clothing because those are all the gamine type. But for a gamine, maybe she wouldn't look as good in theatrical romantic clothing because that's now the romantic type and not the gamine type. Hope that makes sense! The same logic applies to naturals, and all other types. :)
Merriam Style 🎀
Could you talk more about soft dramatic . Or could you add pictures of viewers and type them??? I don’t know what to type myself. I did the test about 4 times the first two times it came out as soft natural, but then the last two came as theatrical romantic. But I think I’m a soft dramatic I’m about 5’5”
Andromache Rey thank you for you response I am quite fleshy and have a small but sharp jaw, rounded nose small fleshy lips. In body I have long arms and legs compared to my torso, but I am a 34 DD and although my hips aren’t very rounded I have a noticeable waistline and sharp bone structure like shoulders . And rib cage, I have narrow but long hands and feet, and my arms and legs get fleshy in the upper part. My face gets really fleshy when overweight
Andromache Rey thank you for your help I will look for these groups on Facebook thank you again. :)
Andromache Rey could you help me I could send you a picture of me cuz really I’m quite lost about this
Whats devon aokis body type
I still see Soft gamine with Mila Kunis head
So I think the SN face did match her body, but the gamine's face did not. Is it therefore safe to say that having a mismatch in face and body is squarely a gamine thing?
I mean if ur face is B and body is A you won't be a gamine. Ur a gamine of your features are one both sides of the spectrum: a,b / d,e
I always thought of Selena Gomez as a Soft Gamine. Yeah, kibbe is confusing.
My face is totally dramatic but my hair is curly and my body is gamine , tiny and I am only 1,63.
flamboyant gamine?
@@merriamstyle probably yes
Hmmm 🧐 yeah, no, I got it...
I don’t got it 😑
this didn't aged well in terms of selenas typing..