Honestly, one of your most cinematic edits. story, content, cuts, views, people, all perfect. A true master piece and as an aviator myself very touching as well. Thanks
I AGREE the HIGHWING for OFFROAD/strip landing and more ''slo fun'' and be fine hittin a kinda nice cruze, and the unnerwinger all spiced up for when you need to do that 1k jump and don't wanna land 4 times ;) eh fster right? but one of each is a good one, the HIGHWING For backcrountry BUSH stuff ''first'' ;) would be MY vote... ujnless it's gunna be a BUILDOFF CONTEST tween them two, HERS underwing, HIS HIGHWING... (again my guess there... just assuming) :) and SEE WHAT ONE IS BETTER GETS MORE VOTES after they are built ;) (SPEED IS NOT A FACTOR IN THE BUILDOFF... don't wanna comprimize quaility for quickness)
What a combo! By that I mean, being a South African, my aviation journey started by first watching the 2 Sling guys navigate the world in the tiny yellow Sling, then I stumbled upon Aviation101, especially one of the early videos of practicing circuits in N80991. I then turned to my then girlfriend and said to her: I'm getting my PPL. Both Sling and Josh were my inspiration to follow a long life dream and now, seeing both combine into this amazing journey, is simply unimaginable. Thank you for all the amazing content and always looking forward to watching the next!
I caught up with the SLING TEAM on their AROUND THE WORLD flight when BAMBI met up with them in Africa (well before that but when they were down in there, then I backtracked binged the watching of that wonderful little machine, yea the SLING is on my list ;) COMPAIR's are also on that list ;) hehee they are pretty cool too
Ahhh, I'm in your video! You were there literally the same week I started classes! And now I have my checkride for PPL tomorrow! I absolutely love the Sling family, and it's super awesome that you're joining too! I'm sure you won't regret going with either plane. Maybe I'll catch you around the hangers sometime soon!?
Hello Josh… I’m a A320 Captain and RV-7 builder (and flying since 2020)… On my journey in experimental aviation I’ve learned that is not the airplane what is important, it’s the mission… be honest with yourself and define what do you want to do with the aircraft, and pick the one that satisfies most of you mission requirements. Greetings from Chile! You have an absolutely awesome channel. Keep it going!!!
I sold GA piston planes for a few years. When it comes to mission, I find people usually think the mission is more than it really is. Wives always want to be able to bring another couple, but if you’re on a budget, buy only for family. If you have a second home or trip you often fly commercial on, and that’s your mission, then that’s a mission. The places you think you will want to go, you really may not. Flight schools and their day charges for trips are really killing aviation and cutting their own throats, but if you won’t rent a plane for a week for a trip, you probably won’t even take your own plane enough to justify upping your mission for that trip. If you are not retired, and you are buying to travel, it must be IFR. If you are buying just fly, buy what you love to fly. If you are paying cash, don’t stress out too much on the choice. And finally, I represented three different factories. I’d recommend a used Diamond if it fits your needs. For experimental, buy what offers you the most support to help you build it. One reason I left the industry was distrust of the manufacturers. I always found Textron companies (Cessna/Lycoming and now Beech) to be terrible, but they are about the only company that isn’t foreign owned by questionable countries. It’s a good time to build your own for that reason.
A few years ago I was contemplating between the two door version or 4 door of the same model car. I chose the 2 door because it looked cooler and I thought to myself if I needed a bigger car we could take my wife’s car. Fast forward just a few months later I was wishing I opted for the 4 door. Probably not the same but I kind of thought back to my car decision when watching this video. Now when I purchase vehicles I do what you suggest and that is what is my mission.
So there I was, wandering past the Sling booth at AirVenture, when I spotted Josh and Chelsea sitting in the TSI, chatting with someone from Sling. Little did I know they were actually filming, because here I sat just now watching this video when I spied myself walking by in the background. 😂 Great video, and I can’t wait to see the build process!
Josh and Chelsea, your videos are better than watching a movie. Brilliant as Jean would say! I used to fly and instruct on Sling S/N 8 and sent the first student ever to solo in a Sling at Johannesburg Flying Academy. Mike Blyth, James and Andrew Pittman have grown the company from a small operation at Tedderfield , South Africa, into a dynamic operation in the US. It takes vision and drive, much like Chelsea and Josh have. So good to see people being successful. Buy the Tsi first, then a second high wing later with crowd funding. One each is the way to go. Fly safe, have fun, and keep the videos coming.
I’m working on my PPL now. Josh you have no idea how much I have learned watching your videos. You have absolutely been an inspiration to me especially when I get discouraged your videos keep me trudging on. Keep up the great work. Maybe soon I’ll be able to call myself a “pilot”. A dream I’ve had since I was a child
I’ve watched Josh for quite a few years now. His all around channel has improved so much over the time it’s amazing. All the content he has managed to get into the shorter videos and now doing longer ones makes it seem to become an short movie. The editing, voice overs and just all over cinematic videos. And now we have a heroine added into the story, truly a great channel. God Bless you and Chelsea,may you both continue to have great health,a deep Love and a wonderful life. I’ll continue to watch you both grow together along with y’all’s channel. Greetings from Far West Texas. Land of Sun, Fun and Sand.😂
Can't really put into words what I feel when watching your videos. I'm colorblind, but have been blessed (or cursed?) with the love of aviation since the early N80991 videos. Just when you think that there is no way your videos could get any better, another great masterpiece drops. It's been over 10 years, and your content has been there all the time with me, taking me to adventures I can only wish I could embark on in this life. Thank you Josh and Chels!
I love seeing how big Sling has grown! I remember flying in the original Sling 2 and 4 the first year they flew them to the USA. Such fun airplanes to fly!
Great video! I first visited Sling in Torrance in 2013, when I was considering the Sling 4 to build. Back then, before the Academy, there was no one there. I had to walk around the office to find the lone instructor to let me fly the Sling 2 (there were no 4s in the US yet). I'm so glad I built my 4 (first in the US), and I've been flying it now for over 4 years.
Think ramp presence. It’s a thing. The High Wing casts a big shadow on the low wing. Take out your folding chairs at your nearest camp ground and sit under the wing with Chelsea with coffee in the morning. Nirvana. 5:45 I’m bullish on high wing. Can’t wait to see what you both select.
Hey Josh, me Marty and the rest of the team at Black Hound Aviation send our regards. We miss yall at KHYI. Any case, I have not flown either of these airplanes myself but from what I've found published about them it seems the TSI hits your mission items right on the head where as the High wing comes up short in terms of speed and range.
I feel like we don’t get to see Chelsea fly that often. She’s clearly an excellent pilot and looked in her element. Cool, calm and collected, and loving every minute. Love this long form content, looking forward to seeing the build.
Hi Josh and Chelsea! I've been a subscriber for a very long time. I must say what a pleasure it is to watch your progression over the past few years. Chelsea has brought a wonderful new dynamic to your videos. It's so fun watching your collective journeys. I have only a hunch as to which airplane you choose, and I'm really looking forward to finding out!! Continue the great productions and fly safe!
I think a good test would be turning up with all your gear you'd expect to take on a long cross-country + filming, and load it all into each plane in turn, doing weight & balance etc, and if possible actually taking each aircraft on such a mission. Fueling, tying down, unloading in a rain shower etc - what's it like to actually live with?
Jean seems like an awesome instructor. Been through a couple in my aviation career, did 1000 hrs of instruction myself, but that’s the sort of instructor you want - passionate, personable, knowlegeable, calm and fun!
I've been watching the sling build videos from a couple of different TH-camrs, and even toyed with the idea of a TSi myself. I personally ended up going with legend cub, because I don't necessarily need four seats at the moment, but I am very partial to the looks of the TSi. My wife and I watched JP on TH-cam as he built his high wing, and she really likes the high wing. Congratulations on the engagement! I've been watching your channel since you were a new pilot. In that time we have both grown as pilots, but your skill and experience very quickly outpaced mine even though I was slightly ahead of you for a while! I started flying in 2006, and by 2011 I had my private pilot in airplanes and helicopters and a commercial and instrument rating in Helicopters. If I remember correctly that was about the time I started watching you, and your experience took off like a rocket. Well passed mine. It's been very interesting watching you grow as a pilot. My personal experience kind of fizzled out in 2011 when I left my commercial helicopter career behind. Since then I have only flown in my local area in a super cub and a Cherokee 180 for the last decade and a half. I have actually learned a lot from your channel! And appreciate your content and dedication to your channel and your craft! Wish you and Chelsea a long adventurous flying career! Don't forget to take us with you!
Cool Got introduced to Slings with Mojo Mike. Ya'll are going with the TSI . I know Josh just threw in the choice dilemma for drama. Have fun in SA. Great video by the way. loved the filmography and richness.
@@Aviation101 Fun airplane exactly... However loading, unloading equipment & baggage over the wing in hot sun or rain isn't so much fun. Over wing loading of a little passenger and child seat... oh wait getting way too far ahead. At any rate use this next flight to compare. Can't wait for the video. Fly Smart Fly Safe
I trained in Cessnas. Have time in lsa’s with rotax engines. I ended up buying a Piper Cherokee. I have no problems with high or low wing aircraft but have really come to appreciate the visibility especially in the traffic pattern with the low wing. It took awhile to get use to the different sound of the rotax but I never had any issues with them and would not have a problem purchase another airplane with one.
I wondered about you getting a HW! Like 80991. Lots of room and the wing is the best sunshade. But by looking the TSi is well shielded from sun by it's doors. Love the overhead switches on HW and the Advanced IFR panel on them too. Very well appointed! Love the TCAS, EGPWS and systems Sling has. Hugely well appointed. I agree with Chels. The HW does have the look of an adventure plane. Even though the TSi is just as capable on small airfields. But having watched this I reckon you need to build a HW! Because as the Sling pilot said to you Josh on way back from AVX, you and Chels can take the back seats out and have a huge amount of space. He talked himself into one! Aside from climb rate HW is basically an identical performer to TSi. You must install Aircon in yours! This was a superb watch Chels & Josh. Happy New Year from me way down under in Middle Earth! Grayson
Can't wait to see which one you eventually pick! Having watched you for many years, the type of trips you go on, the work that comes with running this channel, I personally think you will choose the HW! Good luck with the build! Living vicariously through you guys! For now.
I was an ATPL pilot in Canada .... Piper Navajo,, C401, Cessna C500 and MU2 ..... I watch your video and really enjoyed your video. Good Luck in your choice ... Thanks for making the video Awesome Job !!!
You guys living the good life. My dad enjoyed flying and I went up with him a few times as a kid. But the bug didn’t bite me. At 70 I do regret not pursuing it when I was young. But my dad introduced me to golf and I have been a life long golfer ever since so I guess that was more my thing anyway. Enjoy y’all’s videos…..keep them coming!
WEll done! This is my first visit to your site and you can bet I will be back. Good luck on the numbers... Me after seeing the sling for the first time would be leaning towards the high wing tail dragger in a perfect world. Be well you two!
Having walked (flown?) this path back in late 2020 before buying my Tsi it was fun to re-live the full treatment. Flying with Jean is an amazing treat that anyone would enjoy doing. The HW wasn't anywhere close to even being announced at the time of my purchase, not even a rumor. I finished my build in mid-2024 and am flying now... knowing what it takes to build one, I'd build a HW in a heartbeat. The build is a pleasure and very straightforward. I can't imagine how fast it'll be using builders assist. Now I'm wondering if we'll see the JC Sling at Osh this year. :P Have fun with the journey!
This might just be the best, most fun video yet! It went by in what seemed like 15 minutes. You guys are always fun to "fly" with but John and Matt were also terrific! If I was a student pilot I would love to fly with either one of them. And I chuckled when Chelsea asked John if he flew gliders too. Just moments before when Josh & Matt changed formation position I had a deja vu of "boxing the wake" on tow; the visual references looked identical to low tow. Can't wait to see where you're going on the next trip. As always, thanks for sharing!!
By far one of the best videos you have released on this channel. Loved it! As a guy that hopes to maybe one day take to the sky, and always geeking out on avaition, you give everyone many points to think over and consider. I don't know though. As a Texan myself, I think having a high wing would definitely help on those hot summer days.
Bit if a nail biter!!! Look forward to seeing your choice. This was an epic filming btw…. The conversations in the cockpits were impromptu and really engaging. Good luck!!
Happy New Year to you both! Long time viewer, and I must say your storytelling and cinematography is over the top. Your long-and-short form content always reminds me why I’ve loved flying since I was 10, and still love it at 60. Cheers, and good luck with your decision!
Having lived here in SoCal all my life (70 years) and flown in the same airspace and airports as the two of you did in this episode has really brought back many wonderful memories. I noticed there was a lot more complaining about how hot it was in the low-wing. You'de probably hear more complaining about how wet it feels in the rain, getting in and out of the low-wing as well. The high-wing is certainly more comfortable when you're outside in the elements and visibility for a photographer to get great ground shots without a lower wing in the viewfinder, which is also a big plus. If you want to fly faster, get a jet. If you want to fly as a productive videographer, stay with the high-wing... you can take that advice to the bank!
I am on the ''build BOTH of em'' bandwagon, and then LEASE one back to the ORG/CLUB for those photograph or other ''missions'' set it up for more BUSHY flying and keep the speed demon all slick and fast for those ''long range trips'' they takin on COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT.... get them a 200knott 1200 mile (1k with reserve) 4 seater that can take off with 4 peeps and full tanks... and ;) sigh...... HAVE AN AWESUM EVERYTHING!!!!! (( deep down I think the HI WING would fit what their ''percieved from the outside mission'' of their channel has been (like from the cessina teaching the basics to those that are listening along the way as they play....) but yea ;) kinda would not bet they both wouldn't be able to come up with several PRO's for the LOWWINGSLING :) but yea, if you gunna be doin photos, and may be the only one in the plane doin the photos.... the HI WING really is in a league of it's own, UNLESS you go ''underbelly mounted camera system on a gyro pivito thingie controllable from inside the...'' hehehe
What a fabulous episode of time compression! How did I succumb to a gorgeous journey to CA and blast out to the Catalina "carrier-deck" in the sky, and it felt like only 30 minutes? This journey was a blast! Chelsea and Josh, you two are amazing and the video footage and editing, just sublime! I also am loving these Slings! - Talk about dragging GA out of the long lost past of conventional aircooled big bangers and getting something really modern and much lighter, and therefore faster on "an oily rag smell"! Having trained in mostly low wing Pipers, and yet having a love of all things Cessna, and especially the strutless 210s (which are very popular in South Africa too!) I think I'm for the Sling High Wing because of the unhindered view for everyone aboard and superb ease of access for people on the ground and with loading. What's a few knots at the end of a long 3-4 hour flight, - nothing. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. What a dilemma for you both choosing! Cheers from NZL, David 😎❤
Congratulations 🎉 on your purchase. I just purchased a ground school course from freepilottraining so I’m about to study ground school from home and hopefully soon get my ppl. You guys have been an inspiration to me and continue on being it. I wish you guys the best for the future and with your sling aircraft.
High wing for the win. Versatility is what it’s all about. I could see many great adventures in your futures in that plane. Put the nose wheel on the back.
Absolutely brilliant! Another South African aviator here and so immensely proud of our boys at Sling! For me personally the high wing taildragger is calling my name!! Time to visit SA Josh; and bring Chelsea with! It’s a trip you’ll never forget, just ask JP!
I have a friend that owns the TSi low wing and we’ve flown it a few times. Beautiful airplane. He did owner assist and flew to Ca a few times to built his bird. My main complaint is getting in and out and trying to place your feet without hitting the stick or stepping on the seat. It could be challenging to get your leg over especially for older heavier folks. Otherwise it’s fast, nimble and easy to fly.
Tailwheel sling high wing is my dream. I saw a guy talking about adding larger tires to make it like a backcountry plane. I dont think that would work but who knows.
The low wing suits you as you already have a high wing. What every you purchase will be awesome. You inspired me to get my own plane brand new plane last year. cool video.
One of your best ones Josh and Chelsea. Thank you for making this great content. I got my PPL in a sling2 in Port Elizabeth South Africa. Its a plane I would buy due to all its boxes that it ticks. I appreciate you guys
Super awesome, I’m excited for what’s to come. Could you do a short video or portion of a video talking about the Rotax engine? I’m interested to hear more about the newer technology and how they compare to conventional Lycoming or Continental engines. Happy flying!
Fantastic video. One of your best and they are all great. My wife and I went through the plane selections a year ago and ended up where you kind of started with a Mooney M20J. It’s fantastic and we love it. Easily cruises at 155 ktas on about 7.5 gallons an hour. With the seats folded down it perfect for us. The TSi looks fantastic for sure and is one we didn’t consider but may have to look at somewhere down the road.
It’s great to chat a chance to go to LA in August. If you travel there now, the only food that’s available is barbecue, which seems to be barbecued everything.
What an excellent comparison between both planes - very well done! I am partial to low wings. I built and am test flying a Zenith Zodiac 650B, a light sport with BRS emergency parachute and a Viking Honda engine. It's like a light sport version of the TSI. I love the quality of your videos! Well done!
Stay the course girl, your the few journalists that see truth through the smoke an mirrors. One day the hostages will see the likes of you and Douglas Murray. Thank you for keeping our head above the water. Much love for your bravery!
Amazing video Josh. As always, your editing is phenomenal. I can only imagine the complexity for this video, with two aircraft worth of audio and video. Absolutely top notch. The two Slings look amazing, I would love to fly them both. All I have flown so far has been c172’s. Thank you for sharing your experience with us all. Keep up the excellent work. Safe skies my friends 🇺🇸🛩️
Great video Josh & Chelsea I really loved it! I love all the videos but this was especially great! I am really looking forward to seeing which one you decide on but if I were you I’d lean towards the high wing. For many reasons, being easier to get in and out of in an emergency for safety reasons and the unobstructed view of the world as you fly by is really a game changer especially coming from a Cessna with wing struts however, the low wing is slightly faster as swept low wing planes usually are but the views may be a bit more lacking or challenging to film. It may require mounting cameras under the wings and things like that as well as less if a view for you filming the scenery. Either way whatever you decide I am very happy for you and as always you and the channel have my full support! Cheers 🥂 my friend! Here’s to the new Sling whichever one it is. I also loved this longer video it has to be one of my very favorite videos of yours ever! Also I remember the last time you flew to Catalina Island the airport in the sky! -Caleb
For me, the high wing you sit on it and the low wing you sit in it. Very different positions need taking into account. Just an observation from a none pilot. Both great machines, I don’t have enough knowledge to choose. 👍👍👍
Both great airframes. I think the visibility in a low wing is better when it is most important. Final check before departure, all the turns in the pattern. A low wing gets out of the way. A high wing gets in the way.
As a 62 year old student, 3 years in, it would be pretty amazing if this were an option. I’m trying to put an old, neglected 150 together on a budget. Either one would be awesome.
So much Chelsea in this one! Terrific. If you think you're going to continue to grow your youtube presence and income with flight videos, seems the unobstructed views of the high wing is an investment in your business.
Great video as it points out many of the pluses and minuses of high-wing versus low-wing. I had a 182 and then I currently fly a Cirrus. My main mission is Florida to Illinois to Wisconsin. The high wing advantages is cooler, easy in and out and packing, more room in a hanger with high wing, and there is a more stable handl-flying experience. Low wing-easier to check and pump fuel. But Cirrus has A/C, faster, cruise speeds, ballistic, parachute, TKS in case you have to fly through cloud layers, IFR, Downside is cost of maintenance and parts, and requirement and regulations of certified aircraft. I am going to look at mosaic airplanes that allow me to do my own maintenance, have a ballistic parachute, upgraded Avionics, while more economic turbo charged water cooled engines.
I think my vote is for High Wing. Its new, and from a content perspective you can make a lot of new material as one of the only creators with one. That combined with no struts make it an amazing platform for filming. Plus some extra payload for the new pupper!
At this point, I was looking into the Rav 9A now I guess - all eyes are on the Sling TSI - Just got the call today A hangar will be available at the end of February at one of the local airports in MASS Looking forward to get more information now from Sling
I have to echo some of the other comments, your best video yet, really enjoyed it, didn't feel the time go by. Great start to my Saturday morning,....keep it up
Knowing speeds are so close the next thing for me would be the following in no order. Vision, "leg room", luggage, and climbing in. I believe HW might slightly edge in all those categories. I also love a HW in Texas from May until Oct. SHADE
Love the video! Congrats on the sling. What an amazing choice. My prayers go out to you and your family and hope they are safe from the fire. No one there is unaffected so best regards.
What a fantastic video! I'm on Team High Wing for many reasons but mostly for the view and the ease of loading cargo, plus the removable seats. Thanks for the long video!!!
I took a leap of faith back in 2017 and went with the Airplane Factory, now Sling Aircraft. My Sling 2 is a Certified LSA. Going into retirement this was going to be my 4th and last plane. My wife and I went and visited Vans first, almost put money down on a RV-12. Flew down to Torrance before heading back east. Spent a couple of days with John and Matt, do I need to say any more? LOL! I wanted something to punch holes in the sky, keep my mind sharp and not be costly to fly. I found it in my Sling 2. I took delivery July 2018. My 2 was built in Joberg. Which ever SLING you choose you guys won’t be disappointed. Good Luck and keep in touch.
Honestly, one of your most cinematic edits. story, content, cuts, views, people, all perfect. A true master piece and as an aviator myself very touching as well. Thanks
I'm glad to hear it! Thanks so much for the support. More long edits to come.
Agreed. The slickness of the edits caught my eye immediately. Especially upon arrival into Catalina.
When my channel grows up I want to edit like Josh does.
The answer is really simple. You should build one of each!
Yep, DUH. One of each LOL I thought the same thing.
My thought exactly. Sell everything else and bingo...
Why not high wing one side, low wing the other? Hmmmmm............... well, it IS experimental........................
I AGREE the HIGHWING for OFFROAD/strip landing and more ''slo fun'' and be fine hittin a kinda nice cruze, and the unnerwinger all spiced up for when you need to do that 1k jump and don't wanna land 4 times ;) eh fster right? but one of each is a good one, the HIGHWING For backcrountry BUSH stuff ''first'' ;) would be MY vote... ujnless it's gunna be a BUILDOFF CONTEST tween them two, HERS underwing, HIS HIGHWING... (again my guess there... just assuming) :) and SEE WHAT ONE IS BETTER GETS MORE VOTES after they are built ;) (SPEED IS NOT A FACTOR IN THE BUILDOFF... don't wanna comprimize quaility for quickness)
AGREED! 😂
The shade of a high wing when parked in a Fly In is priceless.
@@garygower702 Or to camp under at Oshkosh! I concur it’s priceless! ⛺️ ✈️
I agree, many a time under the wing of a C210, waiting for passengers at a shadeless African bush strip in my early flying days.
one hour and twenty minutes? Theres goes my work productivity! Well worth it!
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What a combo! By that I mean, being a South African, my aviation journey started by first watching the 2 Sling guys navigate the world in the tiny yellow Sling, then I stumbled upon Aviation101, especially one of the early videos of practicing circuits in N80991. I then turned to my then girlfriend and said to her: I'm getting my PPL.
Both Sling and Josh were my inspiration to follow a long life dream and now, seeing both combine into this amazing journey, is simply unimaginable. Thank you for all the amazing content and always looking forward to watching the next!
Go for it mate & grab it by the balls.
I caught up with the SLING TEAM on their AROUND THE WORLD flight when BAMBI met up with them in Africa (well before that but when they were down in there, then I backtracked binged the watching of that wonderful little machine, yea the SLING is on my list ;) COMPAIR's are also on that list ;) hehee they are pretty cool too
Ahhh, I'm in your video! You were there literally the same week I started classes! And now I have my checkride for PPL tomorrow! I absolutely love the Sling family, and it's super awesome that you're joining too! I'm sure you won't regret going with either plane. Maybe I'll catch you around the hangers sometime soon!?
I like the high wing....better access in and out of the cabin, better downward visibility for seeing the earth and better grass strip wing clearance.
Hello Josh… I’m a A320 Captain and RV-7 builder (and flying since 2020)… On my journey in experimental aviation I’ve learned that is not the airplane what is important, it’s the mission… be honest with yourself and define what do you want to do with the aircraft, and pick the one that satisfies most of you mission requirements. Greetings from Chile! You have an absolutely awesome channel. Keep it going!!!
I sold GA piston planes for a few years. When it comes to mission, I find people usually think the mission is more than it really is. Wives always want to be able to bring another couple, but if you’re on a budget, buy only for family.
If you have a second home or trip you often fly commercial on, and that’s your mission, then that’s a mission. The places you think you will want to go, you really may not.
Flight schools and their day charges for trips are really killing aviation and cutting their own throats, but if you won’t rent a plane for a week for a trip, you probably won’t even take your own plane enough to justify upping your mission for that trip.
If you are not retired, and you are buying to travel, it must be IFR.
If you are buying just fly, buy what you love to fly.
If you are paying cash, don’t stress out too much on the choice.
And finally, I represented three different factories. I’d recommend a used Diamond if it fits your needs. For experimental, buy what offers you the most support to help you build it.
One reason I left the industry was distrust of the manufacturers. I always found Textron companies (Cessna/Lycoming and now Beech) to be terrible, but they are about the only company that isn’t foreign owned by questionable countries.
It’s a good time to build your own for that reason.
You could see his mission. That downward strutless view for his channel makes it the best business choice.
A few years ago I was contemplating between the two door version or 4 door of the same model car. I chose the 2 door because it looked cooler and I thought to myself if I needed a bigger car we could take my wife’s car. Fast forward just a few months later I was wishing I opted for the 4 door. Probably not the same but I kind of thought back to my car decision when watching this video. Now when I purchase vehicles I do what you suggest and that is what is my mission.
The editing combining both flights, and showing the beauty of the area is top notch
So there I was, wandering past the Sling booth at AirVenture, when I spotted Josh and Chelsea sitting in the TSI, chatting with someone from Sling. Little did I know they were actually filming, because here I sat just now watching this video when I spied myself walking by in the background. 😂
Great video, and I can’t wait to see the build process!
Josh and Chelsea, your videos are better than watching a movie. Brilliant as Jean would say!
I used to fly and instruct on Sling S/N 8 and sent the first student ever to solo in a Sling at Johannesburg Flying Academy. Mike Blyth, James and Andrew Pittman have grown the company from a small operation at Tedderfield , South Africa, into a dynamic operation in the US. It takes vision and drive, much like Chelsea and Josh have. So good to see people being successful.
Buy the Tsi first, then a second high wing later with crowd funding. One each is the way to go.
Fly safe, have fun, and keep the videos coming.
I’m working on my PPL now. Josh you have no idea how much I have learned watching your videos. You have absolutely been an inspiration to me especially when I get discouraged your videos keep me trudging on. Keep up the great work. Maybe soon I’ll be able to call myself a “pilot”. A dream I’ve had since I was a child
I’ve watched Josh for quite a few years now. His all around channel has improved so much over the time it’s amazing. All the content he has managed to get into the shorter videos and now doing longer ones makes it seem to become an short movie. The editing, voice overs and just all over cinematic videos. And now we have a heroine added into the story, truly a great channel. God Bless you and Chelsea,may you both continue to have great health,a deep Love and a wonderful life. I’ll continue to watch you both grow together along with y’all’s channel. Greetings from Far West Texas. Land of Sun, Fun and Sand.😂
Proud to see a South African product featuring on your channel! 🇿🇦 Sling, Proudly South African
Amazing to see Sling gaining a reputable reputation
Amazing product, company, and people. 🤌🏼
Very proud of them 🇿🇦🙌
Glorified cirrus
@@edmoore3910That's cool. Then you should pay for your Cirrus and enjoy it.
Prayers for your sister Josh. And everyone affected by the devastation of fires🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely love the long form content
More to come!
Can't really put into words what I feel when watching your videos. I'm colorblind, but have been blessed (or cursed?) with the love of aviation since the early N80991 videos. Just when you think that there is no way your videos could get any better, another great masterpiece drops. It's been over 10 years, and your content has been there all the time with me, taking me to adventures I can only wish I could embark on in this life. Thank you Josh and Chels!
I love seeing how big Sling has grown! I remember flying in the original Sling 2 and 4 the first year they flew them to the USA. Such fun airplanes to fly!
You two can't go wrong with either airframe. Beautiful planes, beautiful cinematography and beautiful people. Thanks for documenting your journey.
Great video! I first visited Sling in Torrance in 2013, when I was considering the Sling 4 to build. Back then, before the Academy, there was no one there. I had to walk around the office to find the lone instructor to let me fly the Sling 2 (there were no 4s in the US yet). I'm so glad I built my 4 (first in the US), and I've been flying it now for over 4 years.
Think ramp presence. It’s a thing. The High Wing casts a big shadow on the low wing. Take out your folding chairs at your nearest camp ground and sit under the wing with Chelsea with coffee in the morning. Nirvana. 5:45 I’m bullish on high wing. Can’t wait to see what you both select.
Hey Josh, me Marty and the rest of the team at Black Hound Aviation send our regards. We miss yall at KHYI. Any case, I have not flown either of these airplanes myself but from what I've found published about them it seems the TSI hits your mission items right on the head where as the High wing comes up short in terms of speed and range.
I feel like we don’t get to see Chelsea fly that often. She’s clearly an excellent pilot and looked in her element. Cool, calm and collected, and loving every minute.
Love this long form content, looking forward to seeing the build.
Hi Josh and Chelsea! I've been a subscriber for a very long time. I must say what a pleasure it is to watch your progression over the past few years. Chelsea has brought a wonderful new dynamic to your videos. It's so fun watching your collective journeys. I have only a hunch as to which airplane you choose, and I'm really looking forward to finding out!! Continue the great productions and fly safe!
I think a good test would be turning up with all your gear you'd expect to take on a long cross-country + filming, and load it all into each plane in turn, doing weight & balance etc, and if possible actually taking each aircraft on such a mission. Fueling, tying down, unloading in a rain shower etc - what's it like to actually live with?
Yeah that tsi is a toy😂
5,000 flight hours a month at Sling. That’s amazing. I’ve never seen a flight school with that much student foot traffic!!
Jean seems like an awesome instructor. Been through a couple in my aviation career, did 1000 hrs of instruction myself, but that’s the sort of instructor you want - passionate, personable, knowlegeable, calm and fun!
I've been watching the sling build videos from a couple of different TH-camrs, and even toyed with the idea of a TSi myself. I personally ended up going with legend cub, because I don't necessarily need four seats at the moment, but I am very partial to the looks of the TSi. My wife and I watched JP on TH-cam as he built his high wing, and she really likes the high wing. Congratulations on the engagement! I've been watching your channel since you were a new pilot. In that time we have both grown as pilots, but your skill and experience very quickly outpaced mine even though I was slightly ahead of you for a while! I started flying in 2006, and by 2011 I had my private pilot in airplanes and helicopters and a commercial and instrument rating in Helicopters. If I remember correctly that was about the time I started watching you, and your experience took off like a rocket. Well passed mine. It's been very interesting watching you grow as a pilot. My personal experience kind of fizzled out in 2011 when I left my commercial helicopter career behind. Since then I have only flown in my local area in a super cub and a Cherokee 180 for the last decade and a half. I have actually learned a lot from your channel! And appreciate your content and dedication to your channel and your craft! Wish you and Chelsea a long adventurous flying career! Don't forget to take us with you!
Thanks for the kind words. We're excited to continue sharing our flying adventures with you. Your support means a ton. Stay proficient and fly safe!
Cool Got introduced to Slings with Mojo Mike. Ya'll are going with the TSI . I know Josh just threw in the choice dilemma for drama. Have fun in SA. Great video by the way. loved the filmography and richness.
TSI all the way. Did you see the way Chelsea looked in the TSI? I was leaning HW but that smile even changed my mind! Good luck in choosing, hahaha!
She definitely loved that plane!
Chelsea loves the TSi so therefore, TSi. 😏
@@Aviation101 Fun airplane exactly... However loading, unloading equipment & baggage over the wing in hot sun or rain isn't so much fun. Over wing loading of a little passenger and child seat... oh wait getting way too far ahead. At any rate use this next flight to compare. Can't wait for the video. Fly Smart Fly Safe
I enjoyed how polite, personable you two are with everyone. Honest, witty and engaging. Great stuff! Still watching. =]
What a calming influence Jean is. I would feel so confident in an aircraft with him sitting next to me! Great video too - have fun building!!!
I trained in Cessnas. Have time in lsa’s with rotax engines. I ended up buying a Piper Cherokee. I have no problems with high or low wing aircraft but have really come to appreciate the visibility especially in the traffic pattern with the low wing. It took awhile to get use to the different sound of the rotax but I never had any issues with them and would not have a problem purchase another airplane with one.
I wondered about you getting a HW!
Like 80991. Lots of room and the wing is the best sunshade.
But by looking the TSi is well shielded from sun by it's doors.
Love the overhead switches on HW and the Advanced IFR panel on them too. Very well appointed!
Love the TCAS, EGPWS and systems Sling has. Hugely well appointed.
I agree with Chels. The HW does have the look of an adventure plane. Even though the TSi is just as capable on small airfields.
But having watched this I reckon you need to build a HW!
Because as the Sling pilot said to you Josh on way back from AVX, you and Chels can take the back seats out and have a huge amount of space. He talked himself into one!
Aside from climb rate HW is basically an identical performer to TSi.
You must install Aircon in yours!
This was a superb watch Chels & Josh.
Happy New Year from me way down under in Middle Earth!
Grayson
Can't wait to see which one you eventually pick! Having watched you for many years, the type of trips you go on, the work that comes with running this channel, I personally think you will choose the HW!
Good luck with the build! Living vicariously through you guys! For now.
I was an ATPL pilot in Canada .... Piper Navajo,, C401, Cessna C500 and MU2 ..... I watch your video and really enjoyed your video. Good Luck in your choice ... Thanks for making the video Awesome Job !!!
You guys living the good life. My dad enjoyed flying and I went up with him a few times as a kid. But the bug didn’t bite me. At 70 I do regret not pursuing it when I was young. But my dad introduced me to golf and I have been a life long golfer ever since so I guess that was more my thing anyway. Enjoy y’all’s videos…..keep them coming!
Also love sailing channels: favs are Sailing La Vagabond, Sailing Ruby Rose, and Gone With The Wynns.
Don't forget SV Delos!
WEll done! This is my first visit to your site and you can bet I will be back. Good luck on the numbers... Me after seeing the sling for the first time would be leaning towards the high wing tail dragger in a perfect world. Be well you two!
Having walked (flown?) this path back in late 2020 before buying my Tsi it was fun to re-live the full treatment. Flying with Jean is an amazing treat that anyone would enjoy doing. The HW wasn't anywhere close to even being announced at the time of my purchase, not even a rumor. I finished my build in mid-2024 and am flying now... knowing what it takes to build one, I'd build a HW in a heartbeat. The build is a pleasure and very straightforward. I can't imagine how fast it'll be using builders assist.
Now I'm wondering if we'll see the JC Sling at Osh this year. :P Have fun with the journey!
Yeah, that "Free" demo flight often ends up with a check getting written, but what a great adventure it starts! Glad to have you in the Sling family.
This might just be the best, most fun video yet! It went by in what seemed like 15 minutes. You guys are always fun to "fly" with but John and Matt were also terrific! If I was a student pilot I would love to fly with either one of them. And I chuckled when Chelsea asked John if he flew gliders too. Just moments before when Josh & Matt changed formation position I had a deja vu of "boxing the wake" on tow; the visual references looked identical to low tow. Can't wait to see where you're going on the next trip. As always, thanks for sharing!!
By far one of the best videos you have released on this channel. Loved it! As a guy that hopes to maybe one day take to the sky, and always geeking out on avaition, you give everyone many points to think over and consider.
I don't know though. As a Texan myself, I think having a high wing would definitely help on those hot summer days.
Bit if a nail biter!!! Look forward to seeing your choice. This was an epic filming btw…. The conversations in the cockpits were impromptu and really engaging. Good luck!!
Happy New Year to you both! Long time viewer, and I must say your storytelling and cinematography is over the top. Your long-and-short form content always reminds me why I’ve loved flying since I was 10, and still love it at 60. Cheers, and good luck with your decision!
Having lived here in SoCal all my life (70 years) and flown in the same airspace and airports as the two of you did in this episode has really brought back many wonderful memories.
I noticed there was a lot more complaining about how hot it was in the low-wing. You'de probably hear more complaining about how wet it feels in the rain, getting in and out of the low-wing as well. The high-wing is certainly more comfortable when you're outside in the elements and visibility for a photographer to get great ground shots without a lower wing in the viewfinder, which is also a big plus.
If you want to fly faster, get a jet. If you want to fly as a productive videographer, stay with the high-wing... you can take that advice to the bank!
I am on the ''build BOTH of em'' bandwagon, and then LEASE one back to the ORG/CLUB for those photograph or other ''missions'' set it up for more BUSHY flying and keep the speed demon all slick and fast for those ''long range trips'' they takin on COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT.... get them a 200knott 1200 mile (1k with reserve) 4 seater that can take off with 4 peeps and full tanks... and ;) sigh......
HAVE AN AWESUM EVERYTHING!!!!!
(( deep down I think the HI WING would fit what their ''percieved from the outside mission'' of their channel has been (like from the cessina teaching the basics to those that are listening along the way as they play....) but yea ;) kinda would not bet they both wouldn't be able to come up with several PRO's for the LOWWINGSLING :) but yea, if you gunna be doin photos, and may be the only one in the plane doin the photos.... the HI WING really is in a league of it's own, UNLESS you go ''underbelly mounted camera system on a gyro pivito thingie controllable from inside the...'' hehehe
What a fabulous episode of time compression! How did I succumb to a gorgeous journey to CA and blast out to the Catalina "carrier-deck" in the sky, and it felt like only 30 minutes? This journey was a blast! Chelsea and Josh, you two are amazing and the video footage and editing, just sublime!
I also am loving these Slings! - Talk about dragging GA out of the long lost past of conventional aircooled big bangers and getting something really modern and much lighter, and therefore faster on "an oily rag smell"! Having trained in mostly low wing Pipers, and yet having a love of all things Cessna, and especially the strutless 210s (which are very popular in South Africa too!) I think I'm for the Sling High Wing because of the unhindered view for everyone aboard and superb ease of access for people on the ground and with loading. What's a few knots at the end of a long 3-4 hour flight, - nothing. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. What a dilemma for you both choosing! Cheers from NZL, David 😎❤
Good morning from Minnesota!! Fantastic episode!! Can't wait to see what you decide on!!
Josh, every video gets better. i find myself mesmerized by the music and cinematography. Beautiful job!!
Great episode...Great aircraft...what a choice...
The Sling organization is very impressive.
Can hardly wait for your reveal!
Thx Josh and Chelsea.
Congratulations 🎉 on your purchase. I just purchased a ground school course from freepilottraining so I’m about to study ground school from home and hopefully soon get my ppl. You guys have been an inspiration to me and continue on being it. I wish you guys the best for the future and with your sling aircraft.
High wing for the win. Versatility is what it’s all about. I could see many great adventures in your futures in that plane. Put the nose wheel on the back.
Absolutely brilliant! Another South African aviator here and so immensely proud of our boys at Sling! For me personally the high wing taildragger is calling my name!! Time to visit SA Josh; and bring Chelsea with! It’s a trip you’ll never forget, just ask JP!
I have a friend that owns the TSi low wing and we’ve flown it a few times. Beautiful airplane. He did owner assist and flew to Ca a few times to built his bird. My main complaint is getting in and out and trying to place your feet without hitting the stick or stepping on the seat. It could be challenging to get your leg over especially for older heavier folks. Otherwise it’s fast, nimble and easy to fly.
The scenery, first in the high wing, and later in the low wing is gorgeous....and the terrain isn't bad either😁❤️
This is great! Hopefully when you're done with your sling, you can get JP and others together and have a great formation flight.
Heck yeah! In fact, JP is gonna show up in the next couple of videos. 🤙🏼
I had the same thought.
Tailwheel sling high wing is my dream. I saw a guy talking about adding larger tires to make it like a backcountry plane. I dont think that would work but who knows.
Totally agree with you....tailwheel version is the BEST....😊
The low wing suits you as you already have a high wing. What every you purchase will be awesome. You inspired me to get my own plane brand new plane last year. cool video.
One of your best ones Josh and Chelsea. Thank you for making this great content. I got my PPL in a sling2 in Port Elizabeth South Africa. Its a plane I would buy due to all its boxes that it ticks.
I appreciate you guys
As I age I appreciate the ease of entry & exit of the high wing plane. Just 1 more consideration of many others when it comes to picking an airplane!
High wing for shade in the summer 👍
Way more practical too.
Super awesome, I’m excited for what’s to come. Could you do a short video or portion of a video talking about the Rotax engine? I’m interested to hear more about the newer technology and how they compare to conventional Lycoming or Continental engines. Happy flying!
Fantastic video. One of your best and they are all great. My wife and I went through the plane selections a year ago and ended up where you kind of started with a Mooney M20J. It’s fantastic and we love it. Easily cruises at 155 ktas on about 7.5 gallons an hour. With the seats folded down it perfect for us. The TSi looks fantastic for sure and is one we didn’t consider but may have to look at somewhere down the road.
It’s great to chat a chance to go to LA in August. If you travel there now, the only food that’s available is barbecue, which seems to be barbecued everything.
Damn good episode. Loved how yall described each plane and your experience.
The pride and joy of South African aviation. Thanks for checking them out!
What an excellent comparison between both planes - very well done! I am partial to low wings. I built and am test flying a Zenith Zodiac 650B, a light sport with BRS emergency parachute and a Viking Honda engine. It's like a light sport version of the TSI.
I love the quality of your videos! Well done!
Fantastic! I agree, Low wings just have that sporty form factor.
Stay the course girl, your the few journalists that see truth through the smoke an mirrors. One day the hostages will see the likes of you and Douglas Murray. Thank you for keeping our head above the water. Much love for your bravery!
Both of these planes ARE AWESOME 😊....I wish Sling Academy was around in 1990..been a fan of KFAs Safari....
Nice content, editing. Been a longtime subscriber….quality is spot on.
Amazing video Josh. As always, your editing is phenomenal. I can only imagine the complexity for this video, with two aircraft worth of audio and video. Absolutely top notch. The two Slings look amazing, I would love to fly them both. All I have flown so far has been c172’s. Thank you for sharing your experience with us all. Keep up the excellent work. Safe skies my friends 🇺🇸🛩️
Great video Josh & Chelsea I really loved it! I love all the videos but this was especially great! I am really looking forward to seeing which one you decide on but if I were you I’d lean towards the high wing. For many reasons, being easier to get in and out of in an emergency for safety reasons and the unobstructed view of the world as you fly by is really a game changer especially coming from a Cessna with wing struts however, the low wing is slightly faster as swept low wing planes usually are but the views may be a bit more lacking or challenging to film. It may require mounting cameras under the wings and things like that as well as less if a view for you filming the scenery.
Either way whatever you decide I am very happy for you and as always you and the channel have my full support!
Cheers 🥂 my friend!
Here’s to the new Sling whichever one it is. I also loved this longer video it has to be one of my very favorite videos of yours ever! Also I remember the last time you flew to Catalina Island the airport in the sky!
-Caleb
Great video! That’s a tough choice. I’m thinking high wing! But man the smile on Chelsea’s face…
For me, the high wing you sit on it and the low wing you sit in it. Very different positions need taking into account. Just an observation from a none pilot. Both great machines, I don’t have enough knowledge to choose. 👍👍👍
With my PPL checkide tomorrow morning, I can’t think of a better video to just get me pumped up for it. Great work and thank you for great content!
Both? Both. Both is good.
Both. 🫡
That's what Sling told them, too! 🙂
Hi Josh from Adelaide South Australia. A fantastic well produced video. A tough decision on which plane to get. Love your work
Both great airframes. I think the visibility in a low wing is better when it is most important. Final check before departure, all the turns in the pattern. A low wing gets out of the way. A high wing gets in the way.
I’m looking at the experimental Berkut 540 personally. Unique, fast, great range. Awaiting the financial part to fall into place, to begin the build.
As a 62 year old student, 3 years in, it would be pretty amazing if this were an option. I’m trying to put an old, neglected 150 together on a budget. Either one would be awesome.
Long-time follower of both of your channels and TSi pilot here. You should make Chelsea happy with the TSi and you will not be disappointed.
I like the high wing. I like the parachute too.
So much Chelsea in this one! Terrific. If you think you're going to continue to grow your youtube presence and income with flight videos, seems the unobstructed views of the high wing is an investment in your business.
Great video as it points out many of the pluses and minuses of high-wing versus low-wing.
I had a 182 and then I currently fly a Cirrus. My main mission is Florida to Illinois to Wisconsin.
The high wing advantages is cooler, easy in and out and packing, more room in a hanger with high wing, and there is a more stable handl-flying experience.
Low wing-easier to check and pump fuel.
But Cirrus has A/C, faster, cruise speeds, ballistic, parachute, TKS in case you have to fly through cloud layers, IFR,
Downside is cost of maintenance and parts, and requirement and regulations of certified aircraft.
I am going to look at mosaic airplanes that allow me to do my own maintenance, have a ballistic parachute, upgraded Avionics, while more economic turbo charged water cooled engines.
lol we love watching LaVagabond also!
I’m partial to the low wing but I can see going plane camping in the high wing! Good video ❤
Decisions decisions 🧐
I think my vote is for High Wing. Its new, and from a content perspective you can make a lot of new material as one of the only creators with one. That combined with no struts make it an amazing platform for filming.
Plus some extra payload for the new pupper!
Flew right over my old apartment in Lomita. I used to live right on the final off PCH.
Enjoy your Rotax! Be sure to take a couple of days to go through Lockwood's Rotax course in Sebring sometime soon.
Definitely! It's a new type of flying, and so much more reliable.
Your videos are getting better and better!
I'm glad to hear it! Thanks for the support.
Nice video!
And what a blast from the past - I flew hang-gliders with Jean for a time, but then lost track of him.
HW...
Awesome video, well done! Cheering for your journey down this new path!
At this point, I was looking into the Rav 9A now I guess - all eyes are on the Sling TSI - Just got the call today A hangar will be available at the end of February at one of the local airports in MASS Looking forward to get more information now from Sling
I have to echo some of the other comments, your best video yet, really enjoyed it, didn't feel the time go by. Great start to my Saturday morning,....keep it up
Go for the high wing you'll get some shade from the wing on long hot flights.
Knowing speeds are so close the next thing for me would be the following in no order. Vision, "leg room", luggage, and climbing in. I believe HW might slightly edge in all those categories. I also love a HW in Texas from May until Oct. SHADE
“As soon as we banked on a crosswind… i switched”. Love it. Yeah that’s what happens when you can see where you’re going lol
Love the video! Congrats on the sling. What an amazing choice. My prayers go out to you and your family and hope they are safe from the fire. No one there is unaffected so best regards.
What a fantastic video! I'm on Team High Wing for many reasons but mostly for the view and the ease of loading cargo, plus the removable seats. Thanks for the long video!!!
Good to see Jean again!
Such a cool guy 🇿🇦🙌
What an excellent video!! Enjoyed every minute of it. Excellent storytelling, cinematography and music choices.
SLING 2 owner here, if I had to do it over again I’d go with the High Wing!
Why?
How do you like the Sling 2? The Sling 2 tailwheel looks like a blast!
I took a leap of faith back in 2017 and went with the Airplane Factory, now Sling Aircraft. My Sling 2 is a Certified LSA. Going into retirement this was going to be my 4th and last plane.
My wife and I went and visited Vans first, almost put money down on a RV-12. Flew down to Torrance before heading back east. Spent a couple of days with John and Matt, do I need to say any more? LOL! I wanted something to punch holes in the sky, keep my mind sharp and not be costly to fly. I found it in my Sling 2.
I took delivery July 2018. My 2 was built in Joberg.
Which ever SLING you choose you guys won’t be disappointed. Good Luck and keep in touch.
@@CheetoFaceDonConvict I’m getting older, so the HW makes entry and exit a no brainer