No before the fall the Earth was the center. There were no galaxies. All the stars were close as possible to our solar system. The sky would have looked like clouds over clouds of white dots of light. After the fall we orbit the sun, our solar system was pushed out of the center, all those suns were made old, everything is decaying. Stars clustered into galaxies being eaten by black holes.
24:00 "does that sound cosher to you?" And here's an example why philosophers weren't able to explain the universe after we started to make actual experiments, collect data and formulate models to explain the results and from there make predictions about future experimental observations, the scientific method. Philosophers relied on their reasoning to explain the universe no matter what nature actually showed. This is why quantum mechanics is so hard to understand. It completely violates the rules we are used to. Aristotle claimed that a heavier object falls faster than a lighter one. This sounded reasonable and was held as a universal truth until Galileo pulled down the pants of Aristotle and proved, by experimental observations, that the claim was false. Science 1 - Philosophy 0 Oh boy did this rub people the wrong way.
Peter Carlson Except the effect of gravity on objects has nothing to do with divine revelation nor our origins. Also no Church Fathers has ever commented on gravity as a theological topics. But nice try.
Beech, "Except the effect of gravity on objects has nothing to do with divine revelation nor our origins." Yup gravity has very much to do with which object is the gravitational center of the solar system. The sun or the earth? Which object creates the deepest gravititational well? Answer: the one with the greatest mass. One topic of this conference was exactly that divine revelation tells us that our solar system violates this unversal law. It has also a lot to do with our physical origin (not our spiritual) as it is responisble for the creation of the heavier elements (above lithium) which we need to exist. "Also no Church Fathers has ever commented on gravity as a theological topics." No since everybody (including the church fathers) bought the crap from Aristotle hook, line and sink it wasn't until Galileo and Newton that the Greek nonsense was debunked.
@@petercarlson811 "Yup gravity has very much to do with which object is the gravitational center of the solar system." You are completely missing the point of the geocentric case. Geocentrism is an entire cosmology whereas "the solar system," taken as either a closed system by itself or as a part of big-bang or some other cosmology, is a construct of those systems. If the earth is not rotating, then the universe is; and if it is, then there are other forces acting upon us other than local gravity. If we are located at the center of mass of the universe, near the center of rotation, and the forces that Sungenis talked about balance out, then the sun's gravity in our case is overcome. If you are subject to many forces at the same time, what you experience is the net force due to how the various forces interact at your location. Airplanes and rockets counteract earth's gravity by generating lifting forces. As for what goes on in space, look at Lagrange points or different orbits around any celestial body. If you are in a three-body system, or more, it becomes very complicated. Depending on where you are, you might get jerked around continually or you might stabilize. The net force on the earth in the geocentric system, in terms of non-local gravity combined with other forces, stabilize the earth. No one is saying that the sun is not much more massive nor that it's gravitational force changes, just that the net effect of being at the center of the rotating mass of the universe is that we don't move. It's a different cosmology, so you have to understand that it's a different frame of reference.
Aristotle was right though..... ones own mass dictates how resistant you or it is to another mass's gravity.... thus even if minute will NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME!!! literally the strength of gravity depends on ones mass.... if you have more mass you will be MORE resistant to gravity... I'm 30, live with my parents and smarter than 400 years of your so called "scientists". Philosophy > Mathematics
also science vs philosophy is a false dichotomy created by mathematicians, psychologists and "theoretical" physicists after Henri Bergson philosophically disproved Relativity which cost Einstein the Nobel... so like I said. Philosophy > Mathematics
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I love this. Challenge the established theories! That what science is all about! Question, question, question!
Love this guy, spectacular.
Should have tested your audio before these talks. It could've been great to listen to and share but I can hardly hear what he is saying.
Since Robert didn't upload, prolly wasn't planned for this. It's not that bad anyway.
Background noises ruined this video. :(
why is the hyperlink for” the principle movie” removed?
Archimedes was the naked guy lol
Earth is the center of the Universe!
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What a very beautiful idea right !!!
No before the fall the Earth was the center. There were no galaxies. All the stars were close as possible to our solar system. The sky would have looked like clouds over clouds of white dots of light. After the fall we orbit the sun, our solar system was pushed out of the center, all those suns were made old, everything is decaying. Stars clustered into galaxies being eaten by black holes.
Hubal - Hu-Baal.
Extremely disappointed with the audio.
Your audio is bad. Maybe try to clean it up if possible.
24:00 "does that sound cosher to you?"
And here's an example why philosophers weren't able to explain the universe after we started to make actual experiments, collect data and formulate models to explain the results and from there make predictions about future experimental observations, the scientific method. Philosophers relied on their reasoning to explain the universe no matter what nature actually showed. This is why quantum mechanics is so hard to understand. It completely violates the rules we are used to.
Aristotle claimed that a heavier object falls faster than a lighter one. This sounded reasonable and was held as a universal truth until Galileo pulled down the pants of Aristotle and proved, by experimental observations, that the claim was false. Science 1 - Philosophy 0
Oh boy did this rub people the wrong way.
Peter Carlson Except the effect of gravity on objects has nothing to do with divine revelation nor our origins. Also no Church Fathers has ever commented on gravity as a theological topics.
But nice try.
Beech, "Except the effect of gravity on objects has nothing to do with divine revelation nor our origins."
Yup gravity has very much to do with which object is the gravitational center of the solar system. The sun or the earth? Which object creates the deepest gravititational well? Answer: the one with the greatest mass. One topic of this conference was exactly that divine revelation tells us that our solar system violates this unversal law.
It has also a lot to do with our physical origin (not our spiritual) as it is responisble for the creation of the heavier elements (above lithium) which we need to exist.
"Also no Church Fathers has ever commented on gravity as a theological topics."
No since everybody (including the church fathers) bought the crap from Aristotle hook, line and sink it wasn't until Galileo and Newton that the Greek nonsense was debunked.
@@petercarlson811 "Yup gravity has very much to do with which object is the gravitational center of the solar system."
You are completely missing the point of the geocentric case. Geocentrism is an entire cosmology whereas "the solar system," taken as either a closed system by itself or as a part of big-bang or some other cosmology, is a construct of those systems. If the earth is not rotating, then the universe is; and if it is, then there are other forces acting upon us other than local gravity. If we are located at the center of mass of the universe, near the center of rotation, and the forces that Sungenis talked about balance out, then the sun's gravity in our case is overcome. If you are subject to many forces at the same time, what you experience is the net force due to how the various forces interact at your location. Airplanes and rockets counteract earth's gravity by generating lifting forces. As for what goes on in space, look at Lagrange points or different orbits around any celestial body. If you are in a three-body system, or more, it becomes very complicated. Depending on where you are, you might get jerked around continually or you might stabilize. The net force on the earth in the geocentric system, in terms of non-local gravity combined with other forces, stabilize the earth. No one is saying that the sun is not much more massive nor that it's gravitational force changes, just that the net effect of being at the center of the rotating mass of the universe is that we don't move. It's a different cosmology, so you have to understand that it's a different frame of reference.
Aristotle was right though..... ones own mass dictates how resistant you or it is to another mass's gravity.... thus even if minute will NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME!!!
literally the strength of gravity depends on ones mass.... if you have more mass you will be MORE resistant to gravity...
I'm 30, live with my parents and smarter than 400 years of your so called "scientists".
Philosophy > Mathematics
also science vs philosophy is a false dichotomy created by mathematicians, psychologists and "theoretical" physicists after Henri Bergson philosophically disproved Relativity which cost Einstein the Nobel... so like I said.
Philosophy > Mathematics
Earth is flat
So is your brain.
@@johnp556 may you tell me what title of Mary that is in your profile pic?
It is not
@crystald3346 it is too. Provably so