Ultimately, it's all about convenience: lugging around a heavy camera and lenses, then transferring everything to a laptop or phone for editing, or just using your phone to snap, edit, export, and post quickly. On my 3-month world trip, I initially invested around $6,000 in a new camera setup, but after just a few uses, I found it too cumbersome. For the rest of my journey across 30 destinations, I relied solely on my iPhone. It was fantastic, accompanying me everywhere from glacier waters to the Swiss Alps, and the quality was perfect for Instagram posts and creating beautiful travel books. As for upgrades, I'm still using the iPhone 12 Pro but contemplating the 15 Pro, considering the cost and benefits.
As someone who takes the a7iii with me travelling and using it for my business you can definitely see flaws in the iPhone's camera. Something just doesn't look right to my eyes as I take almost all my photos with the Sony these days. You can't unsee it. Video however is where phones really shine as my A7iii just has zero image stabalisation. I'm kinda tempted to upgrade to your camera soon for the smooth video alone but I love my iPhone for everything but photos.
What about the weird reflections on the iPhone at night & ghosting during the day? I made a short video at sunset and there are like 7 weird dots / lights from a liquor store with spot lights - not even directly aimed at the camera. Also, this afternoon I walked and made a short clip using my iPhone 13 and I got some serious light flare from the sun and I never see this in comparison videos. Ability to use a lens hood and different focal lengths is really important not just image quality indoors. Also, HDR can give photos a strange look where a camera image looks less processed.
Gerard, what is your opinion of third-party lenses adding on to iPhone 15 lenses? Degraded quality? The competition is stiff, but I do wonder about any tradeoffs. Thank you for the video and for extending your own LUTs etc to any of us, even those who think that falls under "promotion." Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I wouldn’t recommend it as you already have 3 options to use in rearms of focal length, I’m sure some tech guy has tested the main camera to be better with a third party lens
These type of comparisons completely miss the point. If you're taking comparison photos, that are well lit, of static subjects...photos that you will not be processing much or that will only be viewed on a phone or small screen, then the Iphone is the way to go. However, what if you're shooting at 200mm? What if depth of field is critical? What if the look you are trying to achieve requires a specific lens to get the right farming and compression? What if you wish to blow up the picture into a wall sized printed image? What if you're trying to shoot action sports? Sure, the Iphone can kinda do it, but not as well as a dedicated Mirrorless or DSLR setup. Computational photography is definitely narrowing the gap, but it's nowhere near where it needs to be to replace dedicated cameras...perhaps one day...just not today. Having said all that, the Iphone is probably the best way to go for most people. If you're not a photographer/videographer, you are unlikely to notice many of the important differences. So enjoy your Iphones.
You are missing the point, actually. If you require one of those scenarios, you should already know you need a camera. The point of these tests is for general purpose. Most people would prefer to pay $1,000-$1,500 for a 95% result compared with $3,000 or $3,500 for the full 100% when talking about general purpose. General users are not considering whether or not they can blow up a wall sized photograph or taking photos which require a specific lens because those are not general use criteria. Those things are self-evident. If you have an extremely specific use case and aren't sure whether or not to use a camera or a phone, the problem isn't the phone, the problem is you want to do something you don't have the base level of competence to accomplish because you don't even know what tool you need. The iPhone is also not good at making telephone calls outside of its coverage map. If you need to make phone calls out of the area of cellular coverage, you would consider a satellite phone. You wouldn't create a comparison between a tool designed for the job and one that literally cannot do it and you also wouldn't go looking for a comparison. I also wouldn't look at car reviews if I am interested in buying a boat. Basic stuff.
Ok. So this what I’m assuming: If I’m not a photographer or videographer but want great image quality my 15 pro max is good enough? If I want to be more of a professional and mess around in those worlds, use my a7iv?
For anyone who is at least a bit in photography, it's super easy to spot the difference. iPhone uses computational photography and usually overprocesses the image. The colors are off and especially skin tones are inaccurate. Also, their marketing BS, things like: the 48-megapixel main sensor and it's actually 12 (upscaled), and most misleading (lying) is the aperture on those lenses. f/f2.8 on 120mm is actually f/21. lol. However, I have an iPhone and I have a mirrorless setup. I like them both but these comparisons are like mixing apples and oranges.
@@gerardneedhamhey vro could u tell me difference between percentage i phone 15 pro vs sony a7 iv in quality who click the most sharpest photo? so that i can go for 1 product
Can you do a full frame with kit lens on auto mode vs iPhone 15pro on auto comparing jpegs? As a non sophisticated user taking family pics of kids I just put everything on auto and use jpegs. I do find in the dark iPhone photos are terrible and look painted vs a real camera
Provocative topic, balanced info, not so subtle products promotion, Gerard. Have you tried the new LR AI Lens Blur feature? Comparison to phone might be worthy topic for separate vid. Are you an Apple Watch man? Watch has camera app to connect to smartphone camera - app has small live view display and shutter control. If you use off-camera flash, your options on the smartphone are extremely limited or non-existent. [Typo police alert for this one: at 2:35 “Image Qaulity” should be “Image Quality”😊. Got a spell checker?] Cheers!
@@gerardneedham Yeah, there’s a new lens blur panel in the Develop tab - still a bit buggy, but worth a look. It’s supposed to detect the background and then allow you to adjust a degree of blur.
That's YA SAME OLD " LAST RESORT " CLICHÉ ❗️😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Even on My 65" QLED Display i-Phone Looks BETTER ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️ Sony α7Ⅳ Utrecht Netherland th-cam.com/video/m4vvP2w-M7E/w-d-xo.html i-Phone 13 Pro Max Utrecht Netherland th-cam.com/video/wV-c67MDtRw/w-d-xo.html Utrecht Netherland
Nice comparsion. At 4:41, "Portrat Mode", there is a huge difference between iphone and 85 1.4 len. With 85 1.4 len, right shoulder gets naturally blurred. But iphone has clear right shoulder, which makes the image a "fake PS image", LOL. The more the right shoulder is further back, more fakeness iphone image will have. I would not use a iphone to replace my mirrorless.
Ultimately, it's all about convenience: lugging around a heavy camera and lenses, then transferring everything to a laptop or phone for editing, or just using your phone to snap, edit, export, and post quickly. On my 3-month world trip, I initially invested around $6,000 in a new camera setup, but after just a few uses, I found it too cumbersome. For the rest of my journey across 30 destinations, I relied solely on my iPhone. It was fantastic, accompanying me everywhere from glacier waters to the Swiss Alps, and the quality was perfect for Instagram posts and creating beautiful travel books. As for upgrades, I'm still using the iPhone 12 Pro but contemplating the 15 Pro, considering the cost and benefits.
Yeah I see your point, I also don’t want to carry a full $6k camera set up while travelling
These came out so nice Gerry !!!! Thank you for having me 🤩
Yoooooza
As someone who takes the a7iii with me travelling and using it for my business you can definitely see flaws in the iPhone's camera. Something just doesn't look right to my eyes as I take almost all my photos with the Sony these days. You can't unsee it. Video however is where phones really shine as my A7iii just has zero image stabalisation. I'm kinda tempted to upgrade to your camera soon for the smooth video alone but I love my iPhone for everything but photos.
Best comparison I have seen ..❤ love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩❤️
Oh thanks man
What about the weird reflections on the iPhone at night & ghosting during the day? I made a short video at sunset and there are like 7 weird dots / lights from a liquor store with spot lights - not even directly aimed at the camera. Also, this afternoon I walked and made a short clip using my iPhone 13 and I got some serious light flare from the sun and I never see this in comparison videos. Ability to use a lens hood and different focal lengths is really important not just image quality indoors. Also, HDR can give photos a strange look where a camera image looks less processed.
the graded log footage from the iphone looks so good
Yeah I’m getting one for my new BTS cam
I could tell which is which but to be honest Im dissapointed with the a7 iv because it was not that sharp at the one picture you revealed at the end
Gerard, what is your opinion of third-party lenses adding on to iPhone 15 lenses? Degraded quality? The competition is stiff, but I do wonder about any tradeoffs. Thank you for the video and for extending your own LUTs etc to any of us, even those who think that falls under "promotion." Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I wouldn’t recommend it as you already have 3 options to use in rearms of focal length, I’m sure some tech guy has tested the main camera to be better with a third party lens
iPhone has good quality, but the difference is clear to me
The video is what surprises me the most
@@gerardneedham I agree! Actually, the iPhone is very good at video, and shooting in ProRes is incredible.
To be honest not so spectacular if you compare prices and also (super lenses prices)
What is clear for you? Nobody would say what device have he used
@@Lincandoubtyou What gives it away for me 80% of the time is the background.
what is the blogging camera that you currently filming this video? 🙂
Hey, we shoot this all on the Sony a7iv cameras
now wich one should i go for?
These type of comparisons completely miss the point. If you're taking comparison photos, that are well lit, of static subjects...photos that you will not be processing much or that will only be viewed on a phone or small screen, then the Iphone is the way to go. However, what if you're shooting at 200mm? What if depth of field is critical? What if the look you are trying to achieve requires a specific lens to get the right farming and compression? What if you wish to blow up the picture into a wall sized printed image? What if you're trying to shoot action sports? Sure, the Iphone can kinda do it, but not as well as a dedicated Mirrorless or DSLR setup. Computational photography is definitely narrowing the gap, but it's nowhere near where it needs to be to replace dedicated cameras...perhaps one day...just not today. Having said all that, the Iphone is probably the best way to go for most people. If you're not a photographer/videographer, you are unlikely to notice many of the important differences. So enjoy your Iphones.
Yeah iPhones fall apart in a professional environment for sure
You are missing the point, actually. If you require one of those scenarios, you should already know you need a camera. The point of these tests is for general purpose. Most people would prefer to pay $1,000-$1,500 for a 95% result compared with $3,000 or $3,500 for the full 100% when talking about general purpose. General users are not considering whether or not they can blow up a wall sized photograph or taking photos which require a specific lens because those are not general use criteria. Those things are self-evident. If you have an extremely specific use case and aren't sure whether or not to use a camera or a phone, the problem isn't the phone, the problem is you want to do something you don't have the base level of competence to accomplish because you don't even know what tool you need. The iPhone is also not good at making telephone calls outside of its coverage map. If you need to make phone calls out of the area of cellular coverage, you would consider a satellite phone. You wouldn't create a comparison between a tool designed for the job and one that literally cannot do it and you also wouldn't go looking for a comparison. I also wouldn't look at car reviews if I am interested in buying a boat. Basic stuff.
Ok. So this what I’m assuming: If I’m not a photographer or videographer but want great image quality my 15 pro max is good enough? If I want to be more of a professional and mess around in those worlds, use my a7iv?
Yeah basically if you have one it’s a great way to learn film making or photography
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Yes I do! How did you know
@@gerardneedham your last name so funny! you might need a cheese though hahaha
For anyone who is at least a bit in photography, it's super easy to spot the difference. iPhone uses computational photography and usually overprocesses the image. The colors are off and especially skin tones are inaccurate. Also, their marketing BS, things like: the 48-megapixel main sensor and it's actually 12 (upscaled), and most misleading (lying) is the aperture on those lenses. f/f2.8 on 120mm is actually f/21. lol.
However, I have an iPhone and I have a mirrorless setup. I like them both but these comparisons are like mixing apples and oranges.
Yup you got it 😎
Did u record from which camera?
Sony A7iv I think or maybe the FX30 or ZvE1 I really can’t remember 😅 slog3 is slog3 ahahahha
@@gerardneedhamhey vro could u tell me difference between percentage
i phone 15 pro vs sony a7 iv in quality who click the most sharpest photo? so that i can go for 1 product
@@gerardneedhamand the other question is which dslr click the sharpest photo in the world ?
Can you do a full frame with kit lens on auto mode vs iPhone 15pro on auto comparing jpegs? As a non sophisticated user taking family pics of kids I just put everything on auto and use jpegs. I do find in the dark iPhone photos are terrible and look painted vs a real camera
You should use aperture priority rather than auto, you’ll get better results. I think the jpegs from a camera is better than a iPhone
iPhone all the way
Yozza
You can even print big… 40cm by 60cm … you don’t see any quality degradation
For sure mate
Provocative topic, balanced info, not so subtle products promotion, Gerard. Have you tried the new LR AI Lens Blur feature? Comparison to phone might be worthy topic for separate vid.
Are you an Apple Watch man? Watch has camera app to connect to smartphone camera - app has small live view display and shutter control.
If you use off-camera flash, your options on the smartphone are extremely limited or non-existent.
[Typo police alert for this one: at 2:35 “Image Qaulity” should be “Image Quality”😊. Got a spell checker?] Cheers!
Yeah my spelling is not ideal ahahahah, is there a AI blur feature in Lightroom? I didn’t know that ahahahah
@@gerardneedham Yeah, there’s a new lens blur panel in the Develop tab - still a bit buggy, but worth a look. It’s supposed to detect the background and then allow you to adjust a degree of blur.
3:22 all what you need to know about comparing "gayphone 15 pixel mess" with glorious sony a7 iv camera. great test for blind people. Round. Period.
Ahahahhahaah gayphone, I’m not a fan of iPhone photography BTW
You need better insults bro.
broo but the editing what
Does that mean you like my edits 😅
Can never get the depth ‘in camera’ with the iPhone. But for social media you probably can’t even tell the difference 😮
100% one day we’ll see a APSC on the iPhone
That's YA SAME OLD " LAST RESORT " CLICHÉ ❗️😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Even on My 65" QLED Display i-Phone Looks BETTER ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️
Sony α7Ⅳ Utrecht Netherland
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i-Phone 13 Pro Max Utrecht Netherland
th-cam.com/video/wV-c67MDtRw/w-d-xo.html Utrecht Netherland
nope, only if it will be a simulation@@gerardneedham
Incorrect @@gerardneedham
I hate the HDR look also. Idk why you cant turn it off 😔
focus eyes to falcon flies to 250 Miles per hour,,,,
😅
Basically asking people if they are blind
Some people are 😎
The funny thing is that theres sony sensors on the iphone
Yeah 😅 ahahhaha
Nice comparsion. At 4:41, "Portrat Mode", there is a huge difference between iphone and 85 1.4 len. With 85 1.4 len, right shoulder gets naturally blurred. But iphone has clear right shoulder, which makes the image a "fake PS image", LOL. The more the right shoulder is further back, more fakeness iphone image will have. I would not use a iphone to replace my mirrorless.
Crap iphone result the detail of the face gone