iPhone 15 Pro vs Sony ZV-E10 - Which Camera is Better for Video?
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Gear Mentioned in this video -
Sony ZVE10 - bhpho.to/46qKF0G
Lenses
Sigma 18-50 F2.8 - bhpho.to/3Rj4xOV
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN Contemporary Lens (Sony E) - bhpho.to/3PtF9E9
Sirui 35mm f1.8 - bhpho.to/3t3K0V9
Sirui 35mm f1.8 E-Mount Adapter - bhpho.to/46BJiMQ
Viltrox 75mm f/1.2 AF Lens (Sony E) - bhpho.to/46CWqkz
Sony Kit lens - bhpho.to/3n3CMh7
Viltrox 13mm f1.4 - bhpho.to/465ZJB9
Sony E 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 Lens with UV Filter Kit - bhpho.to/47Cdete
Freewell anamorphic for the iPhone:
1.55x Anamorphic Lens 2.0: geni.us/m4BlZHU
Freewell iPhone Case: geni.us/aImueOw
Gimbals
Gimbal I used for ZV-E10 - bhpho.to/46b4Xer
Gimbal I used for 15 Pro - bhpho.to/3QA3rg5
Backpack
PGYTECH OneMo 2 Backpack - bhpho.to/47VS8G8
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:49 Overview
1:09 Camera Quiz
1:50 Lenses Used
2:27 My Hope
3:26 Pros and Cons
4:27 Release Dates
4:45 Skin Tones
6:39 Audiio
7:56 Usability
8:49 Storage
10:56 Stabiliization
12:01 Low Light
13:18 Native Audio/VLOG
15:16 Frame Rates & Resolution
16:03 Conclusion
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Which camera do you like better?
Been watching since the zv1 days and still have mine! I've since upgraded the the s5ii. Channel is boomin J-man. Great video as always!
ZV-1 :)
i'm getting my ZVe10 next week
M2 is gonna work for me! ❤️
@TheNeighborDominator, perhaps you are the right person to ask whether I should buy an iPhone 15 pro max or Lumix s5iix for blogging? The iPhone could do a similar job to a mirrorless camera without worrying about lenses and a bulk size to carry.
The entire intro sequence is likely more valuable than most camera review videos out there.
Big thanks for all the work you put in the vids!
Dang, thank you
The efforts you put to make these videos is just wooww.. really great work sir, hands down, you are an inspiration for lot of people!
Thank you, that means a lot
Nice video i have the zv 10, i am suprised how good the quality of the can is the shots are rwaly cinematic to
Thanks, yes I agree with you. Pretty amazing. What’s your lens setup?
@@thefilmalliance 35mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8 from sony
6:11 It is really crazy how much better the dynamic range is on the iPhone when both devices are in auto. Just look at the trees and the atmospheric detail between those houses in the background, how it is visible on the iPhone and completely washed out / overexposed on the ZV-E10.
That's a smartphone for you. Most cameras require editing, because most smartphones have crazy AI that does the work for you. It's exactly why people don't have to edit after taking a video or picture with a smartphone. It's as expected because the target consumer is someone who generally isn't into cameras, editing, or film to begin with lmao
@@Gtech-ny5rd Sure but what percentage of ZV-E10 or similar low budget camera users actually shoot in log format in order to pull dynamic range and exposure? I would guess the vast majority of budget camera users do not, and use those cameras in a non-professional setting, but rather as a point and shoot. For vlogging and hobby purposes, not professional workloads.
@@fifthgear93 you'd be surprised how many low budget filmmakers actually use low budget cameras to create films and content. Not every filmmaker/content creator can afford a camera that is capable of extensive color grading.
Another point worth noting is that while you're right that a lot of people use low budget cameras for "point and shoot", that still furthers my point. While yes, these cameras are also targeted for less professional people, you have to keep in mind that smartphone users use smartphones mainly quick edits and uploads, all of which are social media centric. Cheaper cameras CAN do these things, true, but it's solely not only for casual use. It's also used for film shoots, events, and more, hence why the option is generally still there for editing (and even if it wasn't, cheap cameras have more professional settings that could be tweaked more than what a smartphone can offer)
Great content, complete comparison, Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Great content ! I really liked the deep dive comparison !
Thanks
Thanks, I like them better than just touching the surface
Ty very much great video
Great video, I think what people sometimes don't realise is that yeah sure technology is getting a lot better in an IPhone but so is camera tech, and cameras you can buy now in the same price range will smoke an iphone once you learn how to use it :) An iphone is actually a good B-Cam for creators to add b-roll or overlay footage on the go
What a perfect way to put it. Thanks for that
Cameras beating Iphones sure but isn't beating Samsungs or Xiaomis etc in the same price range
The best phones can be defeated by 2000+$ at this point
You're severely underestimating smartphone tech
For me the game changer is always gonna be that Sigma 18-50 😍. Such an all-rounder at that price point.
I agree - I love it
Awesome video, thanks for your effort!
I'm just starting out making short business videos for social media. I like the idea of using the iPhone 15 Pro to keep things authentic. Would you recommend any other cameras that might be good for this?
Thanks again for the help!
Great video 📸
Good informative video. 👍 I watched through all the ZV1 / mk2 /F /e10 videos, as I've been looking at replacing the Iphone for shooting some videos. I shoot in a workshop, so there's low light situations, confined spaces where the iphone is fully zoomed out, and a lot of sparks from welding etc. How would one of the sony cameras handle that? It is important to me that I can zoom out almost as much as the Iphone, but I also need to use uv filters as disposable lens protection, as welding sparks embed themself into the lens quite easily. Also filming inside wheelhouses and under the car is low light and wide angle. So this leaves me with a question of which ones of the sony cameras I should pick? e10 for replaceable lenses? (I also do some urban photography, and film some motorsport) zv1-f for small size and disposable filters? is there a way to protect the lens on a mk2?
Thank you for that. Thats actually a great question. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for what you are using it for. Have you taken it yet?
Great video! I'm struggling a bit with my iPhone 14 pro. I think it needs a 1/4 black mist filter to reduce that over sharpened/digital look coming from that camera.
Yes, I know what you mean. That may help. Also I underexpose every iPhone shot by 1 full stop which seems to help.
@@thefilmalliance That's a good tip. Will try that next time! 👍
Cool thanks
After seeing this video got a satisfaction myself that I had choose the right choice , thank you for the comparison 💐🎈
Glad to hear. Your welcome. So what did you go with?
After watching this vidio..I am going to buy Zv E10.Great way of explaining with situations...In this 18 min The photocomparison part was missing..But great vidio loved it❤
The image out of the ZV-E10 trounces anything with a smaller sensor, even my Pocket 3 (I have a recent video comparing the two). I do wish Sony would provide a firmware update for the ZV-E10 with at least better/newer color profiles. It always seems to put a green tint on skin tones. I doubt that will happen though. The new menu system would also be nice!
Great point, and I can’t agree more about the skin tones
Действительно ли цвет камеры zve10 так плох? Не могу выбрать Sony или canon m6m2
Hi great video. I have the Sony ZV mark 2
Does the newer 18mm wide lens fit the Zv mark 2? Also if you recommend a different wide lens which one? Thanks
I'm not sure about that. I have gotten that question a lot. If you find out can you check back in and let me know? My guess is it would fit.
Sounds like there’s a lot of less than positive comments on here. So let me be positive. Your channel is dope and your comparisons are always stellar. Appreciate what you do man.
Thank you, I knew this would be controversial. I am surprised with how many people are negative about comparisons like these. Either way, I appreciate your positive comment and encouragement.
Great comparison !! ZVE10 is undoubtedly the champion but it comes at a cost of bulkiness compred to iPhone.
A very important thing is handheld footage where iPhone is far superior, also mobile phone gimbals are pretty neat and small whereas camera gimbals are again bulky and much costlier.
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Thanks for all of the support. Do you shoot professionally or as a hobby?
Damn dude, the ZV-E10 is gorgeous for that price. I'd love to get my hands on it! I want to start streaming (as well as make pre-recorded/edited videos) off an old iPhone but man, it's a pain to be having to do that through Software that can randomly start to lag by a couple seconds and then go back to normal. I had it setup through El Gato EPOC CAM and it looks great but at times, not so much. Not even wired and wired still produces random lag spikes it seems. I'd love to be able to just shoot from a normal Camera like this.
Holy shit. I wanted to know where this one guy was getting certain TH-camr Creator Sounds for that "Whoosh" type effect. I looked on TH-cam earlier manually by just typing stuff like "TH-cam Creator sound effects" "TH-cam video transition sound effects" but nothing close to them came up and they sounded so cool. Thank you so much for the Audiio sponsor ad! Maybe I will actually be able to find what effects he use or get close enough. At the very least, it gives me an awesome place to go and look manually now! Again, Thank you!
Thanks man, it's my pleasure.
Have you ever tried the osmo Pocket 3? I find it to have truly unique and spectacular specs of its kind and for that size and price D-log 10 bit in 4K 120P, one inch sensor with incredible low light performance. I would love to see a video of you with this camera and maybe a comparison with the iPhone 15 Pro
No, I have to get one What camera did you end up liking more?
@@thefilmalliance From a professional perspective, if I had to choose one, I would undoubtedly choose the ZV-E10. However, they are two complementary cameras. Personally I need both types. I can't just have only the iPhone (or Osmo Pocket 3) for work, just as I couldn't conceive of the Sony ZV-E10 as an everyday camera and travel camera.
When you shot with the e-10 did you use intelligent auto video settings for most or did you use Manual?
I used auto for most shots. I only went manual for low light shots. Aso I always set the exposure compensation to never go above -.07
THANK YOU!!! All these other videos usually tell me I have to do slog or other profiles to obtain results like yours… I do see the value of the other profiles but a a beginners it’s great seeing a video like this!
The iPhone 15 Pro can be supercharged if you buy the Beastgrip Pro and their DLSR lens mount adapter that allows you to use full frame EF mount lenses on your phone. When used with an iPhone 15 or Galaxy S23 and recording in log/raw you have a pretty serious little cinema camera.
Thank you for the heads up. Sounds awesome
why spend more money on a smaller camera sensor? with lowlight capabilities that are lacking, the dept of field is less capable😂
@munthohar8963 The depth of field isn't less capable because of smaller sensor, it's because of the tiny lens used on smartphones. You can easily achieve excellent bokeh blur/depth of field with a small sensor so long as you use the appropriate lens (something that MFT photographers know about) which is why using the Beastgrip Pro and full frame lens adapter will give you excellent results. Just search for Beastgrip DOF MK3 adapter, you'll see for yourself.
Also, smartphones are getting better and better in low light performance every year as some of them use big 1 inch sensors or use double stacked sensors effectively doubling low light performance. For example a Galaxy S23 Ultra has better low light performance than my Canon T5i with an APS-C sensor using a f2.8 lens. A lot of people don't want to admit that phones are catching up to "real cameras", but the truth is in some ways smartphones have already surpassed them. A $600 smartphone has a lot more processing power than a $4,000 camera and they're also several years ahead in the implementation of AI enhancements and corrections.
Dedicated cameras will always have their place but a modern smartphone with a good lens kit is good enough for most amateur cinematographers, content creators, and youtubers. If you already spent $1200 on a high end phone, might as well repurpose it to be a pretty cool cinema rig and save money in the process. Unless you're a professional that shoots for high end clients you really don't need an expensive dedicated camera.
@@munthohar8963you realize ef lenses are the one deciding the aperture and light gathering capabilities here?
Please do a a review of the DJI Osmo pocket 3☺️
I gotta do that one!
DUDE I love your videos, but this video, the intro was too dramatic for me, ha ha... keep up the good work!
I just pick the zve10 kit plus 35mm 1.8 oss
Nice, that’s an awesome setup
ufff that setup for the shot in the beginning???? so nice!
Thank you, I love getting those opening shots. They take a lot of thought.
14:45 are you using cinematic mode on this shot? or just the native camera app?
No that’s the native camera
@@thefilmalliance looks awful :c maybe beacuse is a low light situation
I ordered a M2 zv1. I’m gonna install the ulanzi lense and run with that. Get it on my gimbal. I prefer the cam over the phone. If the Sony has light you can’t compare.
Great point and I think you are choosing the right option. You can get a budget light for the ZV-E10 but that would add to the form factor. I think your going to love the ZV1 M2.
@@thefilmalliance it’s mounted on the M2. It’s very wide. I love it!! Touch screen, tripod location..🤭 All over it bro. They don’t supply a hot shoe cover! 😔 and the cover on ulanzi lens is now cheap plastic. On my old lense it was beautiful.
Your videos give me church vibes. Like im watching a youth camp video recap with the music lol. Are you a pastor? Great stuff!
That’s awesome. No I’m not a pastor. Thanks for the comment
this is what i was looking for thanks for this.. i was confused between iphone 15 pro max and zve10
Oh good, I’m glad this helps in your quest
Bro definitely sony zve10
I agree with you
@@thefilmalliance Yes Sir 😇❤️🥰
I had both iphone 12 and zv-e10 they quality is good on both
Did you notice any motion blur issues with the iPhone increasing shutter speed in broad daylight?
Yes, this happens natively and there’s nothing you can do about it other than purchasing an external ND filter
I noticed that you didn't keep the Nikon Z30 over the ZV-E10. It also looks like you're more of a Sony guy. Have you ever experienced overheating with the ZV-E10 in 4k?
I feel like if youre on a budget and can only afford the zv-e10, meaning you dont have these other fancy cameras and lenses, the iphone should compliment your ZV-e10 and not replace it. As a complimentary quick and dirty shooter and occasional walk talk vlogging cam its amazing due to iphones incresible stabilization.
Its what i use, as im on a budget, and it works great.
Zv-e10 with the sigma 16mm and my trusty iphone 15 its a great combo. Zv-E10 for 90 percent of the video and 10% for quick spontaneous snapshots and walk and talk vlogging. Honestly. On the go, i dont think you need more. Maybe add a dji mic to the mix.
Great point. Love how you explained that
iphone was not even close. I would go with the camera instead of phone.
I can see what your saying. I believe both cameras are good for different situations.
Un possessore di una fotocamera non direbbe mai che uno smartphone vince il confronto.. x me questo iPhone pro Max in proress log semplicemente mostruoso
which has better audio?
I believe I tested that out, but can’t remember. I think it’s in the video somewhere
My M50 with the 22mm lens absolutely blows away the cinematic mode of my iPhone 15 Pro Max.
I know it
This is first video I feel you were economical with fairness. Not to shoot in Apple Log is unfair given the camera you are comparing. The iPhone already has one arm behind its back not having the lens choice and a smaller sensor. It felt to me you were compromised by the loan of lenses. Warmly meant, I stopped watching when it was not a fair comparison using both cameras strength. Still a fan but slightly concerned with your direction.
Thank you for your honest and frank concern. I was more or less creating this video for someone who is a beginner and would like to pull them out of box and start shooting. The different lenses was intended to be a part of said beginners options. If you stopped watching how did you know I didn’t speak about ProRes log?
Can't Add Storage to the iPhone without Otg, & Lens Limitations although lens mods exists for the iPhone..
Sony Zv E10 for the win.
True. What is your favorite camera so far?
Have you tested skin tones of Black and Brown folks?
Yes, coming out in next video. A6700 vs ZVe10. Should be out on Friday
you can record on a ssd with the 15 pro
Yes I mentioned that later in the video
I really love the camera quality with lenses but the price will stack up 😔
Your way of testing is way off. That add on lens is not showing the phone justice. Just get a ND (filmic pro or BMC) and log. That’s the only way to compare. The colors are all off too. This isn’t a good video to show the potential of the phone. I know this is aimed for beginners yet the iPhone can punch way above the example work shown on the video.
I prefer the Sony camera, because there is better contrast and better light management.
Perfectly said. I think it all depends on the user and what they’re using it for.
Great comparison. But basic iPhone 15 pro in Europe is 1,219 eur. Not 911 eur. That's a big difference.
Really? I used a currency converter
You also get the ZV-E10 for a great price here in Germany at the moment: 549€ for the ZV-E10 plus kit lens plus SD card plus camera bag. Less than half the price of an iPhone!
Man, ain't spending on budget cameras while i have a good phone already, saving up for sony a7iv,
I'm using Xiaomi 13 ultra at the moment (one inch goodness)
Now you might say phones have lower details, but does it really?
Motioncam lets me shoot RAW VIDEO at 4k30 in cinemaDNG, should be good enough.
Sounds good. Do you shoot professionally or as a hobby?
@@thefilmalliance hobby mate, although i do intent to do film professionally later on l. 😅
@@thefilmalliance oh one thing though, the bit rate is a bit problematic, 2000+ mbits/s....
In here zv-e10 + sigma 18-50mm f2.8 $1250, but iphone 15 pro 128gb $1300.
I think zv-e10 is way better investment.
I think it all depends on the user and what they’re using it for.
I have been using my e10 for nearly a year and here is what I have to say about it lets start from the worst thing.
1. Stabilization - It's awful, micro jitters and distorting bending image with the slightest of movement. I run everything through catalyst browse and that means I need to use 4k and I have a wide angle lens 16mm sigma 1.4. However. This will make you a better camera person the limitations will make you more creative.
2. Battery - It doesn't last very long which can limit how often you have your camera on and you will miss out on a lot of shots. However I believe all dedicated cameras can suffer from this.
3. Yeah that's it. This camera is great and you will grow with it, you will not grow with the iphone so much. You can remedy the two major negatives somewhat with a lens with stabilization or by adding a cage to the e10 and putting 1kg of weight on it as a ballast. Also you could run an external battery on that cage and now your shooting all day, get a huge battery and that can become your ballast.
I know what you mean. I recently released that The ZV-E10 is made more for hand-held (still) filming or headshots. Not walking with it. What do you think?
@@thefilmalliance I think it is actually the best for handheld because it's so terrible! Maybe because you have to get creative to get around it, which means you will make a more meaningful video. You could make a balanced cinema rig for it showing that you understand balance and damping. You cannot afford to develop bad habits when using it. And you have to consider post editing more like if you are going to have enough in your frame after you run it through Catalyst browse etc. And then I guess if you get something better you would of earnt it and appreciate it more.
I have read rumors about zv e10 mark II or zv e20. Do you think this is possible? I'm afraid that if I buy zv e10 now I will miss out.
I haven’t heard anything about that
@@thefilmalliance oh thank
There were unfounded rumors about a new version in summer, but no confirmation whatsoever by Sony. But even if there should come a new version next year, you can always sell it for ~80% of purchase price.
If u know what you’re looking for, its very easy to tell the difference
I buy second zv-e10 for 3rd angle, so... :D
Good call. What lenses?
Súper pro as always but iPhone pro15 in EU is 1219€ 😂
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Viltrox 75mm 1.2 is 600€ in Europe. 🤷🏽♂️
Ty
מסקנה?
Yes there is
Sigma 30mm 1.4 is 355€ in Europe.
Thank you!
Phone still still phone footage, we can’t get like what cameras do that’s something we get if we have phone.
True, but those Freewell external lenses for the iPhone do a pretty good job I have to say.
Search for Beastgrip DOF MK3 adapter. It completely changes the game for smartphone camera users as it allows you to attach full frame lenses onto your phone to achieve professional looking photos and videos.
Shooting in ProRes with the iPhone absolutely ruins any realistic comparison. No one is going to shoot ProRes in iPhone. It's a ridiculous file format for a phone that doesn't have external storage.
use Sony Monitor & Control, and you got the perfect setup.
That's a great point. You can combine these 2
yeh i do with my fx30 and ipad pro, great for when your filming yourself. @@thefilmalliance
Nice bro
Any camera is good if you have some editing skills. You can have a 10 k dollars camera and still have mediocre footage if you don’t know what you’re doing.
This is a good point
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14:15 that looks very noisy
Yes I agree
There is no comparation here, even in prores the iphone lack the obtival qualities that good glass provides, you can get a 10 year old camera with good glass and proper lighting and will look better than your iphone 15 pro plus giga whatever
But what about stabilization?
off course the Zve10 is better , cause it's a Camera. The iPhone is a mobile phone and can do a lot of things that a camera can't, but again is not a Camera.
Honestly not fair... Sony came with 10k$ lenses but apple just come naaked 😂
Have you seen my freewell lens video for the iPhone? That clothed it up a bit
Hmmm lol. Evening starts with a good Sounddesign… and here yous videographers have a total failure. I did look 139 seconds…
This was a comparison not cinematic footage
I can't help myself. In absolute all compares, the iPhone makes a waaaay better video. It is sharper, lighter, much more details due to the higher dynamic range, the video is absolute smooth (where the Sony is shaky like a earthquake), I don't know why the heck I should use a Sony or a DSLR Camera with obsolete technology. Bokeh effect? Yeah, there are lenses for it and it's just a question of composition settings :) even without LiDAR and Portrait/Cinema mode.
And also I don't agree that the iPhone limits your creativity - HELLOOOO there are limitless Apps with limitless creative ways to shoot videos. Show me a DSLR where you can install Apps or extend the firmware with new functions. My Nikon DSLR has 10 creative modes, that's it, and the highlight is tilt-shift (wow, thats really sad). So my both DSLRs are catching dust for years.
All very true. One of my go-to’s is to just dive into this stuff, figure it out, and then share it with you. Free Apps usually come with bugs. I would go with the paid plan if you really want to maximize the camera
Dialogue by Apple.
What do you mean?
@thefilmalliance It sounds a lot like an apple event,especially at the beginning ...to me anyway..I've watched a few of your reviews and was quite impressed.
Too much of your face. You must be in love with yourself.
LOL , smartphones can never be comparable to mirrorless cameras unless smartphone companies start manufacturing prime and zoom lenses with different focal lengths and apertures 😂 ..
14:10 did really the iphone perfomed that bad?!?! U sure ur not usin' sum iphone 5 or what
Yes it did. That’s the 15 Pro in straight video mode using the rear face camera.
After watching this vidio..I am going to buy Zv E10.Great way of explaining with situations...In this 18 min The photocomparison part was missing..But great vidio loved it❤