THE GREEN CHAIN RIPPER
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Today's solved true crime case is part 3 of the rachel nickell case, now that colin stagg is no longer a suspect and operation edzell has fallen through - police are on the back of a new man named robert napper, known as the green chain rapist, green chain ripper and the plumstead ripper for the previous murders of samantha bissett and jazmine bissett
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Hi Eleanor! :3
YESS PART 3!!!
Finally 🥵💕
One thing to say on this
Read The Jigsaw Man by Paul Britton
He was the forensic psychologist on this case and follows or very closely
The book also has lots of high profile cases like Fred and Rose West and Jamie Bulger
80+ women attacked and they could have caught him after the first. That’s so horrifying.
Yep and especially with the mother's confession to police about her son...that should have been it.
Shame he didn't try that shit here in Texas, where it's 50/50 the intended victim is packing heat.
We don't feel the need to involve law enforcement here. We just take care of ourselves.
@@heatherpuckett1135 I think that is what they were implying
@@anonymoose116 and then you get arrested
@@anonymoose116 The fact that it is so easy to get a hold of guns in America goes both ways. You can protect yourself but guns frequently find their way into the hands of serial killers and criminals - which consequently makes you *less* safe.
Props to the mom for not defending her son and reporting him, I’ve heard many times of moms turning a blind eye
Ikr it’s so sad that a lot of mothers in cases let theirs kids just get away with terrible crimes
I’ve heard about mums and sisters refusing to believe victims, they instead victim blame the women and defend their sons and brothers
She was more competent than the cops!
I know. Like, f*ck the police for just this alone but I'm glad this one woman tried to do the right thing.
@@MandyBuglet right?? Like, I'm sorry, I forgot, is rape like a serious crime and a horrible traumatizing thing or something? It sure doesn't seem like these people thought so. Either that or they are genuinely the most incompetent cops alive. It's almost like the only way a woman would get taken even somewhat seriously is if she DIDN'T survive the attack
Robert's mother: My son confessed a serious crime to me, can you look into it?
Police: *Seen at 9:12AM*
SERIOUSLY LOL
Hahahhhahahhaha
AA😂j we ok do qokkk
You weren't kidding when you said we wouldn't have to wait long for the other parts. Great work as always Eleanor!
Lmao same I was preparing myself to have to wait a couple days
Forreal, I just finished the 2nd part 10 mins ago and went downstairs to listen to the rain. I come back and reset my TH-cam homepage and see this was uploaded 13 minutes ago. Perfect timing ong
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@@choicethetaurus Ngl i thought this was gonna be some trash self promo but i was wrong
I can’t believe the police, like they were given a rapist and murderer in a gold platter so many times and they were just too lazy to do their job, disgusting.
Yeah. No wonder so many rape victims don't trust the goddamn police. Like, even assuming they'll be believed (sadly not a thing many can count on) and even leaving aside how getting rape kits or rape exams can be extra invasive after such a traumatic experience...the liklihood that the cops just straight up...won't bother to do more than the *barest* of bare minimum investigations and thus you went through all that for nothing at all? Is far too high. The worst part is its not just this police department.
I'm sure there are *some* units that do actually treat sexual assault as if its a serious crime regularly and consistently, but this should straight up not have happened. The police here have the trauma of so many women and the blood of Rachel Nickell on their hands almost as much as the murderer himself as far as I'm concern.
I am convinced that the media's fixation on Alex after Rachel's murder was the reason Jasmine was killed too when her mother was. He didn't want to leave another eyewitness. I am disgusted
Well… she was upstairs sleeping …. When he went in and raped her …
I’d say the only difference is that she was a little girl .. he was watching for a while so knew she was there.
The fact he had to go up stairs to find her sleeping I’m sure he knew she didn’t see anything ..
I agree first thing I thought when it was said she was killed
Thats what I was thinking too!!
Robert's mom: My son explicitly confessed to raping a woman, here's his name, please go look into this and help the woman he attacked
The police: I'm sorry, did you say something?
Its so strange to me this is the 2nd true crime story i heard today where someone has gone to the police with a person's full name and address and the crime they did and the police where like nah I don't think they did anything
that’s UK police for you.
the system doesn’t care abt women
LITERALLY!!!
🤦🏿♀️
Woman: yeah my son just confessed to this HORRID crime against a woman in her own home, with her children downstairs, he has a history of severe mental illness and creeping on his own damn sister, PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS
Police: yeah sure :) *tosses info in the garbage*
it makes me so mad. why would the own mother lie…
@@okidgaf7643 right?? it's especially shocking because i feel like in so many cases we hear about like... parents either turning a blind eye to their children's crimes or actively covering for them, and the one time a parent does the right thing and reports their own child to police for something this awful, the cops just... ignore it. it's so infuriating!
What a real mum/women grassing up her child, she tried to do the right thing and get him help !
@@becca-ww3xw yup n the one time a parent did end up doing the right thing it led her to be bullied and threatened by strangers .. for wanting ppl that raped tortured n murdered a woman in jail… ppl r sick
Not connecting the rapes and Rachel's murder I get. Even failing to test Napper thrice I understand. This one pissed me off the most.
If the police had just looked into the Mothers claim - all those women would have been spared the trauma and some their lives. Why is no disciplinary action ever taken???
it's the police system way of protecting themselves with all liability. that could be why they act negligent. if they only hold ethical grounds a lot of crime can be prevented.
A long time ago in history when a man did this he was blinded so that he could never get the opportunity to see anything. It was very effective.
Because the police system doesn’t protect women.
because misogyny
Women are rarely believed when they speak out.... Hope this is changing now but unsure of it being accurate
I’m so eager to find out who the killer was, I feel so insanely terrible for Collin who had to go through so much for over a decade. Even if he was compensated, I feel like that was lifelong damage. I’m glad he’s doing good now tho :)
He’s actually written a book on it
Also recommend reading The Jigsaw Man because the guy ( Paul Britton ) who wrote was the psychologist on this case and actually worked in trying to get Colin Stagg to confess
@Anaya Warren righttt they made so many claims that had no evidence behind them and continued to push their narrative. So insanely messed up
@@rachel.810 omg thank you for letting me know about this! I will defo be reading both of them!
@@user-vj5dm7rf9s The Jigsaw Man also includes other high profile British cases that he worked in like Fred and Rose West and Jamie Bulger
@@rachel.810 will defo check out those cases, and will try to get the book :) thanks!
The fact that the police didn’t do anything after a woman gave the info of a rapist on the loose, how did they still have jobs? That’s so awful so many incidents couldve been prevented.
You've right - Had they acted upon that confession, lives and serious crimes wouldn't have happened . . . the Police incompetence is beyond belief
They paid a catfish *5 times* as much as they gave the child who witnessed his mother's murder? That policewoman was fully complicit and consenting in what she did. That's absolutely disgusting.
I do think colon deserved his money they fucked up 16 years of his life but I also think Alex should of gotten more than the 20 he got and the officer shouldn't of gotten nothing she agreed to do it when at any time she could of been like I'm not comfortable or I don't agree to that maybe some counseling that they offer all officers but money hell no she was not a victim. Only ones who can say they were is Alex and colon
Not to mention, how the police themselves knew full well how unethical their actions were, yet they proceeded without care. They knew they were luring him, they knew the possible consequences of their actions. Yet, she cries victim, AND got REWARDED for it. That's the ugly truth of the world we live in. The REAL victims get sh!t on.
The poor dude even went along with her "f€tlsh" and didn't even judge her when he thought she had a mental illness.. honestly, that made me feel so bad for him. He's not a perfect person but at least he learned from his actions & actually respected the woman who thought was actually interested in him? That's crazy. Glad he's doing okay now
@@bridgettbenson6830I actually support her getting compensation. We don’t know what the power dynamics were in that police force. (And we all know the UK police are not the most ethical people ) People in general, especially women are often put into a spot by their superiors where they have to perform acts which they would never have in other situations. Also considering that he was innocent it surely affected her mental health.
But yeah the kid definitely deserved a much larger compensation than her.
@@paulirosa2075 the power dynamics are also where my mind immediatly went. I think Alex should have gotten more, not her gotten nothing.
Judge: "he is TOO DANGEROUS"
also Judge: *8 weeks in prison*
i think thats becsue legally the judge cannot give him more time, he can only grant time for the charges pressed
@@run4508 ye that charge was for possession of guns
@ayo maybe she didn’t know , also it was acknowledged by the judge on how disturbed this man is , I can see how the short prison sentence may not make sense to others
You know that different charges have different maximum punishments right? You can't throw someone in prison for life because they have a weapon
frrr
Real justice would also be arresting ALL the officers of Rachel’s case. DISGUSTING and SHAMEFUL.
Agreed!
Hindsight is 20/20
@@loricook6331 In this case it was very bad police work even back then.
@@loricook6331 they gave up on the dna samples after 3 chances!! Even after visiting his home! There is no excuse for this.
my mum actually treated a lot of them as her time as an osteopath, they would talk and they genuilnly did believe they had the right man. as my dad, who new the boyfriend vaguely said, the arrested the weird guy in town an thought they had cracked it. says a lot about UK police and learning difficulties.
Alex & his father are literally twins. I’m so glad his life has turned out positively 🥺❤️ also, the police lagged SO hard, I’m disgusted
Poor Colin stagg, and that photo of him holding the peace sign was just so adorable and i felt so horrible for him
i mean he still wasn’t the greatest person , charged for indecent exposure and sent an unsolicited explicit letter...
@@Luna-zh5pp well obviously but i do feel bad bad bc theres kinda a different between indecent exposure and murder yk and dont get me wrong not the best person but nothing compared to a murder
i feel like he just was really fucking weird, not really trying to be a bad person, but just like not really thinking normally, and being weird🤔 but I also feel bad for him, he looks like a decent guy, and I’m glad he’s happy and has a family now after being unfairly accused of MURDER
@@majawisniewska6397 definitely. he wasn’t the best person but at least he wasn’t a murderer right? And to be fair indecent exposure is not as bad as murderer
He was just a horndog the whole time 😔
I can’t help but to think that if Alex was Rachaels daughter and not a son. He would’ve been assaulted and killed too. It seems like the only thing that saved his life was the killers “preference”
agreed:(
thats so disturbing to think about yet sadly, very true :(
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Wow I didn't even think of that😔
True, I mean he sexually assaulted a baby, so probably.
RIP Rachel, Sam and little Jasmine. Such horrific, heartbreaking murders. I hope they are all resting in piece 😔❤️
Peace* not piece
@@lynnemc1424 Autocorrect
The police efforts in this case are disgusting honestly it is so shameful
When something didn't pan out they were just like pft well I guess that's that then. So what do y'all want for lunch?
Bark
They should have arrested and locked away EVERY single police officer on these cases for ALL these women’s murders. They are all PIGS. Disgusting disgusting pigs!
His last murder tore me up, that poor baby girl and her mother. This hit me hard, what a horrible disgusting thing he is.
Me too, I can't believe how heartless and careless that wanker Robert Napper is when he murdered them especially Sarah's daughter, makes me so mad.
My heart sank on that one hard...
Me too, it made me sick. As a single mom to a 4 year old, it made me sick to my stomach really bad...and actually afraid too to be honest...I believe it could have been avoided too. It's so disgusting to imagine people like this and these crimes...
Eleanor: "I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video"
Also Eleanor: "Apart from the UK Police Force tho, they ain't shit" 😭🤣
All the disrespect can be lain on the metpolice. It's honestly too accurate
@@Reploidx9 Oh yeah, most definitely, they're absolutely horrendous
No better joke than the UK police especially when it comes to women being assaulted, raped and even murdered
Edit: I’m so blown away by the amount of comments, I really didn’t expect to receive so many. I’m glad that people are talking about this huge issue and sharing different facts, laws and stories from all around the world, it just goes to show that women are still viewed as second class citizens even in the 21st century, let’s continue to talk and raise more awareness!
Also I just wanted to add that my intention was never to disregard any police forces from around the world that fail to protect these victims and go on as if the UK police are the worst. I am from the UK and I’ve heard so many cases where the UK police have acted poorly in relation to a case that involves sexual assault and rape, then again I have heard cases from other places in the world that do the same and I’m glad that people are choosing to share examples of these.
After I heard there were 80 victims, I couldn’t help but think to myself if it was men it would’ve been solved after the first
It's often no better in the US and Canada, esp for POC or the indigenous. If your parents are socially prominent, the case will definitely be taken seriously....Ito's sad to say.
Hello, have you ever heard of Algerian police? Victim shaming? Using religion as an excuse to basically legalise abusing women?
@@scrollingtillmidnight7330 I’ve never heard about it until you mentioned it, but I’ve just went down a rabbit hole that really REALLY shouldn’t exist. It’s awful
So many countries in the world have horrible police. Absolutely abhorrent individuals. These ones could've spared 80+ women and children such horrible trauma and pain. Sickening.
Eleanor: “no disrespect”
Also Eleanor: “BUT AGAIN THIS THE U.K POLICE SO WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT⁉️ WHY WOULD YOU THINK THEY WOULD THINK LOGICALLY🧏🏽♀️”
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So true😂😂
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I love how sassy she is istgs its amazing
Well she gotta keep it real so😂💅🏾
I feel so sorry for Colin. I had a stalker for 9 years, for 7 of those years he was to my knowledge my school bully, but by the time it got to 7 years he had befriended me. We went on a walk, I had forgiven him for his past actions and pinned it to immaturity, and agreed to hang out, and he took me to the middle of nowhere and that’s where he confessed to wanting to kill people, he told me he frequently killed animals and then told me if I told anyone he would kill me too, the only reason he hadn’t was he was obsessed with me and didn’t know why. I was 16, in the middle of nowhere, with this guy who was stalking me. But I didn’t know until then. For 2 years afterward my life got worse. But initially, when he told me that about himself, just like Colin and for self preservation purposes I acted very casual, like I didn’t care, I even faked interest in murder to keep him talking so he didn’t notice I was terrified for my life. I still believe this saved my life. I went to the police that night when I got home, and they did nothing as it was hearsay and he hadn’t actually hurt me yet..I had to move away and cut off contact with people I cared about so he couldn’t find me again.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope everything's okay now?
@@_ivanche hey, it took a long time but my life is completely as I wish it always was. Very grateful and thankful to be here.
im so sorry. i hope you're living well now
Police recruiters: Why do you want this job?
Interviewees: Well the badge and gun are pretty cool.
Recruiter: Perfect. You’re hired.
@@LittleLotteWandersliterally wtf is the point of becoming a police officer if you’re not gonna do your fucking job
When she said “they found a toolbox with chipping red paint” I IMMEDIATELY thought back to when she said they found red paint in Alex’s hair. 👀
Me too
Same-
SAME
Same
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Fr tho I paused the vid and RAN to the comments to see if anyone else noticed-
Poor Alex had to grow up knowing his mother’s killer was out there until he turned 18. The law really fucked up on this one, but what’s new 😭
Fr
U go and join the law and see how hard it is😤
@@kieshabrown9274 girl there was a million incredibly simple steps that could’ve been taken that would’ve lead to her murderer being caught years before. Hell before he even had the chance to kill her. Anyone with half a brain could’ve been more productive than the Yard in this case
@@bitchlasagna1 FRRRRR
That's UK justice for you. Very similar to Canadian justice.
Imagine if the media hadn't put such a spotlight on baby Alex. There may have been less motivation to get rid of little Jasmine. Absolutely heartbreaking.
the police are so infuriating here... his mum is literally telling them he's a rapist and they do absolutely nothing with that information, it blows my mind.
UK police are famous for giving 0 shits about women who are assaulted and raped... it's disgusting
I’m so glad that Colin didn’t give in and just tell them what they wanted. I know that had to be hard. It’s also crazy, because he actually looks similar to the actual guy that did it!
@Leia I know! It’s so crazy!
Aren't we forgetting that Colin Stagg was sick and depraved. He profited from the whole thing by writing a book and was compensated more than the little boy. What are we doing in the UK?
@@ticketyboo2456 exactly and its horrifying that so many people in the comments keep saying 'oh poor Colin he's so amazing' like yeah I know he was wrongly accused but the guy is actually SICK IN THE HEAD what with the dark and weird sexual fantasies and the indecent exposure! why are people suddenly ignoring all that?
@@reya6126 the public indecency definitely makes him a p.o.s, but shaming people for their fantasies isn’t fair. He never did it on an unwilling partner, so shaming what somebody wants just makes more sickos if they’re convinced something’s wrong with them and nobody will love them then they turn into people like this. There’s safe ways they can explore their fantasies
@@reya6126 Okay okay okay lets just. Not. There are PLENTY of people with odd sexual fantasies. And two consenting partners can engage in those fantasies. In my opinion, since he never actually went out and did those things to any unwilling partners, he isn't a bad person for odd fantasies. Flashing a woman in the park is not okay, but again, one dumb mistake that he hasn't made since cannot be used to condemn him. He's getting the mental help he needs now anyway
I literally laughed out loud when you said the police gave up when he just didn't turn up to give DNA 🙄🙄🙄 god help me if the police ever have to investigate a crime against me 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I reported somebody for assaulting me, gave all my evidence and it took them a year with no updates or contact to tell me they couldn’t do anything because there wasn’t enough evidence. They waited a year to tell me that even though I gave them evidence of him admitting it. Oh and they phoned me on my birthday to tell me they were gonna do jack shit 🙃
@@kashootmeplz866 im so sorry i hope your doing much better now
The officers on Rachel's case just kept proving how negligent they were. These were officers who had NO leads, and the one ACTUAL, GENUINE lead that was given to them by the other officers was disregarded while they continued to harass Colin into confessing something he didn't do. Smh.
Yes you are absolutely right, I hope this haunts them in their sleep for the rest of their lives.
100% agree. This is probably the worst case of police tunnel vision I’ve ever seen. (I’m sorry but I have to😭 *negligent)
That policewoman consented to taking part in the operation. She apologised to Colin, saying 'it's my job', and whatnot, meaning she did it willingly to keep her job. I understand that of course she would've undergone some form of psychological trauma from the ordeal, but arguably nothing anywhere near what Alex would've experienced. To give that woman £125,000 for something she consented to, when a victim who witnessed the murder of his own mother at the age 2 years old was only awarded £20,000 for therapy to last him the rest of his life is truly disgusting. It's purely infuriating, and I hope with all my heart that Alex has been able to live a life that is a close to 'normal' as possible, and has been able to grow up as happy as he could, and I'm overjoyed to hear that he is living a good, happy, and peaceful life, currently.
Eh... I feel leery calling it consent. You can't fully consent to sex with your boss when they proposition you when the boss may fire you for saying no. For the same reason, I doubt you can fully consent to acting as a sex worker at the behest of the police department bosses, who are probably men, telling you that you need to do this and to keep going or else another woman's rape and murder will go unpunished.
Consent is also ongoing and can be revoked at any time. If you say yes and change you mind and a sexual partner doesn't stop, it's rape. If she consented at first to terms that were safe and ethical, terms which changed, and then pressured into continuing to give consent by her bosses when she was clearly uncomfortable, she wasn't able to keep consenting.
@@emexdizzy My understanding of police work in the UK is that you can’t be forced to go undercover by your superiors. It’s done on a voluntary basis with compensation because of the additional risk involved. It’s an assignment that you apply for rather than a job you’re allocated without consent.
The police officer deserved that amount. But Alex deserved more.
@@4legsalex706 But just because it's not legal to force something doesn't mean it's not done, or wasn't done at this time. The whole thing is unethical, you can't assume that they ethically went about having this officer do this as well.
If she consented to doing something sexual in order to keep her job then no, it's not consent. Yes, Alex should have been given more, but those two should be looked at separately. If you worked so hard to get your job and your boss said you had to pretend to be into depraved things, and you had to live for 7 months writing and flirting with someone you thought wanted to rape and murder you, and you had to go pretend you were into him, and you thought you had to because it was 'part of your job' then afterwards the public turns on you because your part was terrible and unethical, it would deeply affect you. The whole thing was unethical, and you can't expect that her bosses were fair to her when they were so focused on this honey trap happening in the first place!
I still cannot believe all those rapes and deaths would be avoided id only police had acted after the mother called like it is SO frustrating that so many had to suffer duo to police's incompetencz.
*Incompetence! There’s no Z
I was waiting for this, i cant believe they tried to pin a murder on a innocent person rather than to get the REAL killer. more than 10 years later they finally get justice. The poor boy was already around 13 or 14 when they found his moms killer
And that the son and his family spent over a decade in fear that the killer would come for him. 🤦♀️
He was almost 18 I think. Which is just sick.
I think every woman who was raped and the families of the slain victims should have sued the police department. If they had listened to that sorry excuse of a human's mother then the rest might have been spared. I hope guilt eats at all of them for their failures.
Although I agree with you, I doubt it would have spared all of them. We all know how the justice system is. Since it was his first offense, he would have gotten just a few years. Sure, it would have spared some of them, but he would have continued to rape and eventually murder women after getting out of prison. I highly doubt prison would have reformed him, had he been caught. But him going to prison the first time mean police would probably have kept a closer eye on him afterwards. So who knows.
@@lau_baril possibly. But it's also possible that not getting any repercussions led to the escalation. We will never know.
They should've gotten compensation, not the cop who was part of a horrible operation to get a confession out of a man who had nothing to do with the case
I agree with the fact that the police royally messed up. however, I dont agree with the denigration of the mother. She did report him. And remember, she herself was struggling with coming out of an abusive relationship and mental health issues of her own. She did take him to psychiatrists. Unlike a lot of other people, she tried. He try may not have been upto our standards but then again, we dont know what her situation was really like.
@@lau_baril yeah but even after the first offence his dna would be in the database. If he tried to rape more women, they would have caught him sooner. Even if it saved 70-74 women, that us still a LOT of women. 60 is a lot, even 10 is a lot. Plus, in that first trial, he may have been found to be mentally ill and maybe would have been put in a pysch facility only to be release upon treatment. Also, understand that the escalation in violence and murder happen as the criminals get more and more cocky as they dont get caught. speedbumps sometimes prevent escalation. The justice system royally screwed up and failed to protect a lot of women.
This just proved how hard women literally have it out there. It’s sad
Exactly I’ve seen so many people coming back with the argument that men get raped as well but just don’t say anything. I accept that but statistically more women are raped and yes they do say it but I bet there’s just as many women who don’t say as men. I know this isn’t the absolute best example but say just for example in sex education when Amy goes through the thing on the bus she is so resistant to go to the police, good thing Maeve cared enough
Edit: I spelt maeve so wrong at first!!
@@freya2633 in the US more men are raped than women. This is counting rapes that happen in prisons. Also men are often the victim of violent crimes.
@@kiiiirbzzz in the us… I’m not from the us so
this is why existing as a female is an extreme sport.
I'm shocked that you haven't gotten a ton of heat for this comment. It's true though, the bravery that's required at random times, in random places. It sucks.
@@ea9849 😐 Grow up and don’t say ignorant shit like that.
@@ea9849 if you went out to war and died like a 'real man' we wouldn't have to witness your ignorance
@@ea9849 true we'd get beat instead
@@ea9849 Careful buddy, you wouldn't want mommy to see this comment from TH-cam notifications and kick you out of the basement would you?
Diminished responsibility? For someone who went out and raped so many and murdered, then went back to his place and marked on a map where he murdered? Nah. I call bullshit.
Right? Like, maybe if he'd only done this once that would fit, but he had so many victims! He very clearly planned out his crimes to some extent. This isn't the case of a mentally ill person who hadn't received the care they needed snapping, this is a dangerous man who just happens to have a mental illness.
@@ava_marie_v oh, it was absolutely mental illness that caused this.
Psychopathy is a mental illness.
@@anonymoose116 He wasn't a psychopath, though. Plus, psychopathy is a pretty misunderstood mental illness. It doesn't make people murderers.
@@ava_marie_v no, it doesn't make people murderers...but he was definitely a psychopath. Antisocial tendencies? Check. Lack of empathy? Check. Strong response to rage? Check.
Yeah.
@@anonymoose116 He was literally sentenced to life in a mental institution. If they haven't diagnosed him with psychopathy, then he isn't a psychopath. Please don't try to diagnose random killers with mental illnesses. You're not going to be right and will just spread misinformation that stigmatizes these disorders.
the lack of effort the police made is absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, then so much effort was put into manipulating the wrong bloke. 🙄
They didn’t have to put that much of efforts, but they still lacked. How infuriating
100+ women now traumatized for life because police didn’t bother looking into this guy
Unbelievable
It's so frustrating. Here is a mother who's done all she can to get her son help. Then, when that failed, did what she could to hold him responsible.
The police seemed to not care about the rapes at all. :(
I feel INSANELY bad for collin. he went through hell for doing nothing. the rachel police team completely ignored the green chain police team and if they didn't they would have solved a murder but no. they need to prove this one person is guilty. absolutely horrible! And I also feel super bad for Rachel's family. they didn't know who killed a loving mother, girlfriend, daughter, and person.
The most terrifying thing about this whole case is that people like Napper are still out there. As a girl, I am still constantly afraid (more than 20 years after this all happened) of being cornered on the streets by some perv. I'm 16 and I have to worry about looking over my shoulder to make sure there isn't some 40 year old following me on my way home.
Becareful out there sweetie, but more so around new friends etc, sadly many sexual assaults, "love crimes" happen by someone YOU have met, or known, that is a proven fact. Most harm for some reason, killing a women happen by their love one when they become pregnant. Just never doubt your gut instinct, never! You think someone is a weirdo, they more than likely are, you get a strange feeling walking home listen to your body, mind follow your gut!
I’m the same I’m 25 with a 1 year old and I’m only 4ft9. Being a women is scary
Same this case made me think of my experience and how I could easily have been his first rape. To think what he might go on to do scares me
The biggest concern for women tends to be family and friends, unfortunately /: however, men are very much at risk of stranger violence.
You are more in danger from kids closer to your age, I’m sorry to say. It’s not always some ‘old creepy man’. It sucks but we really can’t assume anyone is safe.
I feel so bad for the Crime Scene Photographer, a crime scene so bad that you need a two year break to heal yourself from mental pain.
The police really failed a lot of women and children here. 😭
honestly heartbreaking 💔
I really wish you’d labeled them 123. I had no idea this was the last part lol
Righghhttt. I was so confused at first. I’m like where is the last Rachel video
Man! I was still waiting on pt 2 until yesterday because of that very thing 😞😂
I had the hardest time finding this 3rd part also
Which video is part 1 & 2???
@@steph.j.g5247 part one is “The Tragic Murder of Rachel Nickell” and part two is “The Wimbledon Murder”
Honestly it sounds like if your murder hasn’t committed a crime before the police will do nothing… that’s always the scariest part to see how easily these guys avoid the police for years despite not being criminal genius.
i live in Oklahoma, USA and in order to get a license you have to submit your fingerprints so you’re automatically forced into a database. 🤷🏽♀️
it’s probably a lot easier to find first time offenders that way
@@cheyenne1082
They do that in the UK now commit a crime even a petty crime and you get caught you have to give finger prints. And DNA it's just pure lazyness tho.
How have these Investigators past exams to do this job when they can't see their own inconsistencies in their own logic
Im so happy Eleanor shows everyones side to the story. The amount of work And research she puts into this is truly outstanding And she deserves the world 🥰🥰🥰
The way she’s absolutely smearing the UK police in this series is giving me life😂😂
AS SHE SHOULDDD LMAO
Eleanor: "I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video"
Also Eleanor: "Apart from the UK Police Force tho, they ain't shit" 😭🤣
Literally same. Love when she shreds the authorities cause she’s right! Why didn’t they do anything at all?
for real!! i’ve never seen such a police force care so little about people
After finding out Collin wasn’t the murderer and feeling terribly bad for everything he endured, I was eager for pt 3...Thank you for your Speed Jack and Eleanor!
Didn’t she say that he was a sex offender though
I LOVEEE these long, detailed, multiple-part series!! I can kick back, get a drink, and chill, knowing that i wont have to find something new to watch every 15 mins bc yours are an hour long!!! Love you Eleanor, your videos are great and I hope you love making them as much as i love watching them.
And people wonder why women and vulnerable men are afraid off males… when guys like this exist. Off course it’s not all men but it’s enough that’s it’s a problem. Over 80 women he assaulted 😞couldn’t imagine being around at this time being too scared to even open your door or go out your house.
Even worst: when crap like this happens, people say “just go to the police”. We go and they ask us “what were you wearing? You were asking for it”.
This is exactly why I encourage my fellow women to stop being "polite".
Ladies, don't be a victim. Fuck a mfer up. Grab whatever is nearby, go for eyes, throat, groin. Be viscious.
Exactly.
The UK police are the real criminals they failed Rachel Nickell and 80 other women when they didnt respond to the murderers own mum when she turned him in.
Of
Roberts mother: hi my son has explicitly expressed to me that he raped a woman at knife point while her son was downstairs. Please look into it because I’m afraid this will happen again
Police: yes *tosses info out resulting in 80+ more women being attacked by him*
Yeah
This is so infuriating, it made me so angry. She did all the right things to protect all the other women and at the end, 80 women are sexually assaulted by this PoS and several young mothers are dead and their children orphans.
Its honestly so sad
Coming from an American, I find it really comforting for you to realize that a magority of your following isn’t from the UK, and explaining certain things like the lack of AC or certain things that are more custom to your location. I’ve had people from the uk make fun of Americans before and it didn’t really make it fun to watch their videos anymore, but I find it really sweet and cool to learn about these kinds of things through someone who is patient enough in their story telling to describe the customs for someone who isn’t so used to them. :)
Yeah it's sweet, I'm south african so somethings are a hybrid between american and british for example the may be products and things that we call the same as americans or british people and the fact that she takes her time to explain every single thing is cool .
Plus other countries really try to make americans seem ignorant and take jabs at them, it's never funny maybe a percentage of you are like that but it sometimes is annoying when ppl make it seem extreme
finished part two like 30 seconds ago so you could not have had more perfect timing
Me too!
Lucky
Same!
Omg same!
Same!
My intruder anxiety is so bad, I could never leave doors open, let alone unlocked. Even during the day. It disrupts my sleep, too. It’s a problem.
Same 😭
Sameeee
IKR
Honestly, better be safe than sorry.
I even wake up to check if all the windows and doors are locked 😟🤦♀️
This is why I will never be comfortable walking alone even in daylight…
Sorry, the junior police officers forgot, why they where there? I laughed at this, but in real life, it is not funny, you are an officer and you can not just forget to ask for DNA!
Really tho how tf do you forget something like that?? This whole case is so frustrating.
I genuinely hope they're disgusted with themselves for the rest of their lives. If they did their job and got a sample, so many women could have been saved from violence.
How easy would it have been to ask the guy right there in the flesh to spit in a tube or give them some hair? I'm not sure how much of a sample they would have needed or how the sample should be collected back then but whut
@@ca-ke9493 Excatly!
I’m so glad Alex is thriving….I reckon his mum would be so proud ❤️
Great work as always Elenore (and Jack!!) xx
Who's jack?
@@fuchsia2297 the editor of these videos!
@@jeonghanfication oh, thankyou
Eleanor*
OMG, I simply cannot believe the lenghts to which police resorted to try and frame an innocent man (kinky and weird alright, but innocent) but literally disregarded Robert Nappa's mother call to them. That's so messed up. This case shook me up badly. I think I might need a little break from true crime, actually
*napper
Am I the only one who likes the cases that are multiple parts? I get so much more invested in the case
I do
Love hate relationship
its just the cliffhangers that make me a lil annoyed😅 but eleanor posts the parts fast so i dont mind waiting
The fact that I know this is part three of the trilogy but the titles seem to not connect at all😂
omg fr
Trueee! Although I can imagine it's hard for people just stumbling upon her channel. You kinda have to watch all her videos chronologically, otherwise you wouldn't know that they are multiple parts of the same story
@Vampire sameee
Ong
exactly what I'm saying, why can't she keep a title the same and write (PART 3) or something...this really confused me
I feel like every American that watches Eleanor absolutely loves her accent
as an american, i can confirm this statement
I agree
We absolutely do 🥺
Hard facts as an American
I’m from the south of the uk and I can confirm it’s such a delightful accent which I wish more people had around here. So nice!
everyone watching this video: “omg this case is so sad :(“
collin: 😬✌️
44:28
BYEE
😢😭
PLEASE
PLSS
😭
Cases like these are so infuriating. HOW DO YOU LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THAT FOR SO LONG??????????????????????// HOW??????? HOWS IT EVEN POSSIBLE????????
I love you Eleanor, but for the love of god, PLEASEEEEE don’t name your multiple part series under completely different names. Or at least put (Part 1 “insert victim’s name here” Case) after your fancy smancy titles bc your girl be listening to you at work and I can’t look down at my phone for too long to try to find the next video. 😂😂❤️
the fact that his baby picture gave me chills... ugh
Eleanor has really been spoiling us lately
Money talks.
Well done @eleanor
She has been doing it for years.
I know right
hey Eleanor, could you title them at least "part 1" and so on so it's easier to binge-watch? i watch your videos when I'm working on my work. thanks!
I assume she does this for a few reasons and I support her for it: 1. For when non-subscribers find her, it’ll help direct them to her channel page 2. The titles are catchy and probably increase views too.
All we have to do is click her name and find the video we’re watching, then the next parts would be right next to it!
Eleanor: "I get scared easily but even I can play this game
Also Eleanor: has a entire channel dedicated to telling super scary true crime videos
I get it though. I can fall asleep to forensic files but after and episode of criminal minds I need to watch something comforting. 🤷🏼♀️
@@Killy-Willy11 same! 😭😂
I'm so happy to hear Alex is doing well, I can't imagine how hard it would be to grow up without your mom because of something like that. This was an amazing series, thank you for covering it for us
I have LITERALLY never had my jaw drop so many times during a case. What a WILD RIDE.
The police woman who pretended to be Lizzy James absolutely did not deserve all of that money but she could of pulled out of it at any time even at the risk of her job and didn’t need to carry on. Sickens me she gets that much money compared to Alex
I agree she did not deserve more money than the actual victim of the crime, but I'd have to know more about her to decide if she deserved anything at all. Depending how young she was, I imagine she was pressured into the job, and if she was relatively new to the force, she would have gone along with it for the sake of her career, regardless of how she felt about the ethics of it. And given her real name isn't public, I imagine part of that settlement was hush money so she wouldn't give even more details about an already unethical operation to the media.
she should have been fired, and sued. she deserved everything that happened to her afterwards, she should have been the one that was sued
Fr how is she getting 6x the amount of compensation a child who witnessed his mother's murder and SA when all she did was try to catfish a bloke in an attempt to get a wrongful confession
@@caoilfhionndunbar I am not defending her actions or the operation, but it was a fully coordinated attack with multiple people involved. I am hesitant to place blame on her without knowing if she was masterminding the operation or merely complicit. Lots of people will do questionable things if they're in fear of losing their jobs. I would need more information to determine if she was another vulnerable person who was taken advantage of or another terrible cop who enjoyed doing questionable things.
@@butterflyslinky I dont blame only her, i Think every member of the operation should have been punished equally, but the fact that she boht had the gall to go to court and actually got awarded 100k for catfishing makes me hate her particularly
The fact that his own mother reported him initially, and police didn’t do anything is outrageous. Over 100 crimes involving 80 women!! I hope that in the future these sorts of stories are few and far between.
it pisses me off so much that the freaking mother literally TOLD THE POLICE ABOUT HER OWN SON CONFESSING TO HER AND THEY DO NOTHING. I REALLY DON'T GET IT. very very upsetting.
eleanor: he said he was kidnapped, he said someone cut his fingers off, he met the queen
eleanor: ofcourse he didnt meet the queen
me: yeah that wasnt the part im caught up on 😭
It’s the fact he said they grew back for me 😩🤣
@@emilynotley6627 I would've just thought that he didn't know what surgery was, and his fingers just magically appeared when he woke up in hospital 😳
LMFAOOO
Something never sat right with me regarding this case , how can a person be considered mentally not responsible for this kind of crime but yet he still knows when to attack , I mean if you are mentally not responsible you wouldn’t know danger from safety . He wouldn’t have waited for the moment her boyfriend wasn’t there or wouldn’t have chosen to attack his victims in empty areas .
Thank you for the 3 parts Eleanor , this must have been exhausting for you , thank you again 💕
genuinely the most heartbreaking case i’ve ever heard. my heart and condolences go out to all the victims and people affected from this case🙏❤️
Sad to think that most of these murderers were raised in an abusive environment and basically traumatized since childhood. Not all go to become murderers but many eventually become abusers themselves. A vicious cycle.
I forget where I saw this quote, but it said the worst crime you can commit is to hurt a child because they take that hurt and put it back in the world :(
You may think me heartless, but that is one sound reason pro abortion. If you can't give a child a good home, if you raise it in a violent, miserable, traumatizing environment, you send another potential predator out to prey on others. Republicans think that being pro birth is empathy enough. But I congratulate any potential mother who recognizes that she is in no position to raise a child or is with an unfit father early on.
@@intrepidtomato Yeah, you are heartless. Everyone deserves a chance at life and there's no guarantee things will turn out that badly.
@@intrepidtomato Thank you for speaking it out. No baby should be forced to be born into a life of misery, neglect and abuse!
@@Jim-so3zm No, it’s not heartless at all, it’s extremely mature. Abortion is and should always be seen as an option for women, if a woman is in an abusive relationship how on earth is bringing a child into that situation a good and safe idea?? It isn’t! Abortion is a very good option, if you’re so worried about the foetus why not go and adopt one of the many children that are already in the foster system instead of complaining about women doing something to their bodies that has absolutely nothing to do with you and also simultaneously avoiding a potentially dangerous situation for a child. Look at the bigger picture in the future instead of being immature and inconsiderate.
I’ve been sitting at home crying since early this morning. I walked out of orientation for my first job “back into the world” because they just simply didn’t care. I felt like a failure like covid is still ruining my life. This sounds crazy but this upload just kinda saved me if you will. Sinking into depression and feeling alone, I needed a distraction and E’s calming and passionate voice is the perfect distraction from this ❤️
I hope you’re okay lovely, you’ve got this ❤️
Rooting for you and proud that you took care of yourself and got out of there. Try not to feel any shame or guilt for taking care of you! You are loved and worthy
@@EMEM663 thank you!! I was honest with them and told them look, I’m taking a paycut and have an awesome job from home but I really miss the world. Im just looking for a job with good hours and a great team. I just moved to a new town and know nobody. I was shocked when the response today was “so do you want to move forward with the position or not? I don’t wanna waste our time” I’ll be okay! I promise I won’t give up ❤️
@@merry_361 thank you so much! I will not give up and honestly, I’m glad I made a decision now instead of later down in the road. I have a wonderful job from home, I just miss the world. I’m in a new town and I need friends!
OMG this is so weird, i literally feel the same and was crying! I feel like I don’t know what to do with my life anymore and the career I thought I was supposed to do for the rest of my life doesn’t seem right. So I quit and now I feel like a failure. I’m 27 so it sucks. I feel like no one else is going through the same thing,so it makes me feel better. But I hope everything works out ❤️
The court: “he’s a danger to society”
Also the court: gives him 8 weeks
I freaking hate the idea of men thinking they can do whatever the f they want to and with women so their fragile ego wouldn’t be shaken and their basic pretty easily controlled needs are satisfied. It just grosses me out. Wth is wrong with this world…
@Chocolate Stars I agree, those things that happened to him in the past are totally horrible, but they just explain, not excuse all of his actions. Also, my point is he only targeted on women with children, because men are so sure all females are weak and they can easily manipulate them with their kids. This guy from the video chose women all the time, not men. Because the knowledge that females are just a “thing to do stuff with” is deep inside people’s minds. My narration is kind of chaotic and messy, but i hope my point is clear. I think is sort of a stupid thing to deny that men think about women as of sexualized objects that have two functions: to give birth and to serve. And of course the result of his traumatic childhood is not only about the male issue. But imo it’s a massive part of it anyway.
@Chocolate Stars I agree...you're no psychologist.
@Chocolate Stars well… that’s literally what I explained earlier. I have no clue why you keep trying to convince me that his traumatic childhood experience is the main point in this story cus I already partly agreed with your opinion.
But you just proved with your own words that his targets were women only due to the main idea of “weakness” and other stereotype bullsh*t about females. That exactly was the statement of my very first comment. I’m not saying that you are wrong, I’m just trying to explain my view on this situation here. That’s all :)
@Chocolate Stars Majority of the women I know were sexually abused by the men in their life, starting with their own blood. Fathers, brothers. Uncles, cousins. It happens to women, more often even, and they don’t receive justice or peace but they also do not go out and rape and kill men in the same light. The worst part is to see his actions explained in a way that paints him as a victim. By being a man, it allowed him to commit these crimes. It is a male issue.
@Chocolate Stars doesn’t quite matter what they have to add. They’re right. You’re no psychologist.
This is the second time Eleanor’s covered a case where the media and police demonised an innocent man. I hate trial by media I hope he’s okay now
I think he’s ok he’s married with step kids and I think he works in a Tesco store
Sharu - Joanna Yeates, I think.
@Sharu the joanna yeates case i think i might’ve spelt it wrong
It’s exactly 29 years today since Rachel’s murder
Rest in peace ♥️
girl! I can’t believe how fast you’re able to put out these cases. I would love to hear you talk about your process when researching and compiling information for a video. It seems like such a daunting task
This video is just Eleanor roasting the UK police for 52 minutes and 44 seconds😂
as she fucking should
They deserve it! Bumbling idiots!,
I am so glad to hear Alex is doing well. It made me teary to think that his dad almost took both of their lives, but they have managed to stay strong and get past the tragedy and are both now doing okay ❤️
Judge said he is going to be very dangerous to society in the future and proceed to give him 8 weeks in prison wow
Crazy huh
The blood of all those victims are on the police hands. I understand that it can be difficult with no leads, but all they had to do was DNA test the FIRST VICTIM. His own mother turned him in, and they did nothing.
Absolutely disgraceful.
Must've been hard for a mom to report her own son, most mom will protect their sons even after hearing such a confession. She really is/was a good woman.
This story is so sad from all angles. It's always heartbreaking to see someone was just living their lives and then there was someone else who just decided it was fair to take their lives, to take them from those ones they love. A dedicated mother, a wife, a daughter, a friend.. it's horrible to know how unsafe we are. :(
About the killer: I feel nothing for him as a man, he's just horrible. He deserves no pity.
But I do feel bad for the boy he once was. Both my brothers are also Aspergers and I've seen so much - and that's not even everything. If people only knew what abuse, neglect and exclusion can do to someone, especially if they're "different" somehow..
the police did such a lousy job here, they could've done so much better if only they gave the attention and effort that they gave to Colin, *to* Robert, so much could've been prevented!
I am so happy to see Rachel's son is doing well!! He deserves to live a happy life and I am sure his mom is with him every step of the way ❤
"Lizzie" knew what she was doing... she agreed to do it! The whole thing was disgusting. She agreed for MONTHS to do this. And I'm sure was paid WHILE doing it... IDK...
she was paid a lot more than any other officer on the case
"Agreeing" to something is really not a sound way to judge. The women threatened with rape or their children would be killed couldn't give consent to the rapist. Consent can't happen when there's explicit or even implicit threat. What would have happened if she, as a woman on a mostly male force, said no? "Lizzie James" obviously wasn't going to be raped, but joblessness and poverty are not minor threats.
They basically used her as a whore. I doubt she signed up to become an officer so that her department could exploit her as a sex worker (which this was, she was basically being a cam girl). I also doubt she agreed to it at the start believing she would be used to entrap him. She was probably told she needed to do it in order to protect other women from a bad man, that there would be boundaries, and she was pressured over and over into violating those boundaries.
We shouldn't be saying "she agreed to it" when systems of power almost certainly pressured this woman into sex work. If she was under coercion, this probably could be seen as similar to sexual assault, even though she was also used as a tool to violate someone else' consent. Her culpability needs to be viewed through a more complex understanding of consent.
I can't believe that the police were told about a son confessing to raping a woman and just yeeted that information away.
It's horrifying that this all could have been solved after the first case
They did yeet it 😂
I'm so tired of being angry at how all of these cases have been handled. It feels like we'll never stop being afraid and its such an empty feeling. I try to stay hopeful but these make me want to cry😞
The psycho mom never does the right thing! THIS mom is awesome! Turns her crotch goblin in, and NO ONE does anything 😳🤦🏻♀️
Crotch goblin 😆 bet this woman (along with everyone else)‘s faith in the police was absolutely shattered to pieces from that moment on.
@@jean-claudevandammit3371 💯 💯 💯
CROTCH GOBLIN BAHAHA
CROTCH GOBLIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Napper’s Mother : My Son is a Rapist !! Catch Him before he does anything !
Bri’ish Police : Nah Fam aint a problem innit ?
LMFAO why is it true tho 😂😂
just binged all three videos. such a good trilogy Eleanor