The Book of Jasher Examined
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- The Bible mentions a book called Jasher that has been lost to history, but some claim it has been found and should be included in the Biblical Canon. Is this true?
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Sources:
Duane Christensen - The Lost Books of the Bible
Cyrus H. Gordon - "Ugarit as Link between Greek and Hebrew Literatures,” Revista degli Studi
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Jason M. H. Gaines - The Poetic Priestly Source
John Walton - Ancient Near Eastern Thought and the
Old Testament
John McClintock & James Strong, “Jasher,” Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature
Arthur Chiel - “The Mysterious Book of Jasher,” Judaism 26:3 (1977)
Leslie Stephen, ed. “Ilive, Jacob,” Dictionary of National Biography (1891), Vol. 28, 414
Michael Hesier, “The Book of Jasher.” Fringe Pop 321. www.fringepop321.com
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One thing I think people need to realize on this topic is that the Bible quoting a passage does not automatically mean that the work cited is divinely inspired Scripture. All that can be inferred is that the quoted portion alone is either accurate or somehow relevant to the writer's point. The Apostle Paul quotes two pagan philosophers in his writings. That certainly doesn't mean that the pagan writings should be added to the Bible. So a "missing" book of Jasher doesn't mean the Bible is incomplete.
"What is the Book of Jasher?
The Book of Jasher is one of 13 books that are recommended reading in the Bible. Out of these 13 books only Jasher is still in existance. If we are to believe the text itself, this history book was written over 3500 years ago. It is aproximately the same age as the book of Genesis. It covers about the same period as Genesis and Exodus but has about twice as much information in it than Genesis. It answeres a lot of questions raised in Genesis."
I bought this book from the above description and, no it was not a well spent $8. Never finished it because it just was too inconsistent with the Bible and I am glad I realised it before too long even if this happened just after my christian journey had begun.
Thank you good sir, for your help!
Veksin is t mark of t beest. Open your I eyes I please you in the name of who He is.
It'll spoil you blood. And in blood is where the life of being rests.
No buy nor sell - cov. Measures. .. All are pushed into it small and great young and old.
@@Mt6xyz777 have you received your measles or chicken pox shots? You can never attend school without them...
@@ruintheliarsschemes they are not the same..not at all.
@Fallon Waye that sounds like book of Jubilees not Jasher.
Each denomination can publish any canon they see fit. Most can probably be found online.
God bless.
I forgot about the hoaxed version and got excited thinking the original might have been found. These source works for the OT always fascinated me as a kid and I've always hoped they'd be found one day.
Me too
Me three. Maybe God saved these books in the library in heaven?
At 7:05 it is clear that the book of Jasher is a medieval fabrication because it mentions the lombards. The lombards are a Germanic tribe very far away from the place and time we would expect the book of Jasher to have been written. The lombards didn’t move south into northern Italy until A.D. 6th century. This is widely known among people that study Eastern Roman history.
What about the Ethiopian translations?
@@sukaenacornelius9285 Mostly likely accurate
Then how did the old testament mention it twice?
@@wingedhorus1462 The versions sold currently aren't translations or copies of the original. The original Jashar existed and was quoted, but we don't have any copy of it today.
A quotation about a Germanic tribe is a proof that current prints aren't copies of an ancient writing. A proof that a current print of a book isn't a copy of an original doesn't mean an original didn't exist. In fact we know an original existed because it was quoted, but since current prints of a book titled Jashar was written in the Middle Ages such a print clearly isn't the one quoted in Joshua.
Hope that clears up the misunderstanding
Mr. Jones I'm so glad that you covered this
Your editing was popping off in this video nice!!
you turned me on to Dr. Mike S. Heiser. He is something special for sure! Love his books on the supernatural realm and enoch. Really re-invigorated my spiritual life post-seminary when I read and re-read (a half dozen times) "The Unseen Realm", as well as Reversing Hermon, Andgels, Demons, and his fiction novels too. Appreciate all your work and videos.
I could listen to the narrator's voice forever!!!!
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Eye opening and deep thanks for this amazing video 📸
This clears up alot of questions I had, thanks you.
Thank you I.P. team for another informative fact based video l both Love and am grateful for such a wonderful resource and when am a little confused on a subject l search your video archives to see if I.P. have produced on video on the matter. Another thing l' grateful for is the Bible that l have and l find that it's canon form is enough for me. Studying it, praying through it & APPLYING it is more than enough. Contained within the Bible is enough to keep one busy for an entire lifetime and then some !. While l find these extra bilem interesting and at times quite tantalizing I am aware that such pursuits may not bare fruit. This is written not as a criticism simply an observation and a reminder firstly to myself that there can many detractions in this world and that some of them glitter like gold.
Great content as always
If you're ever short for ideas, I (and I'm sure lots of others) would _love_ to see a video on "a lack of belief".
Thank you... pls do more videos on lost books of bible
Great video!
Great Job!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
insightful as ever.
Well done brother.
Great stuff 💯💯
@IP, nice video on the book of jasher.
Liked you mind/ materialism videos, interesting that they say that the Big Bang started everywhere and nowheres, speed of lights point of view is instantaneous, we are very special even by Theory of a general relativity each one of us has our own time it seems make us even more special and created from the beginning.
Finally this video has been released!
Jasher 88:64
[64]And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Joshua, and the sun stood still in the midst of the heavens, and it stood still six and thirty moments, and the moon also stood still and hastened not to go down a whole day.
Joshua 10:13
[13]So the sun stood still, And the moon stopped, Till the people had revenge Upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
Jasher 56:8-9
[8]And Jacob said unto Judah, I know my son that thou art a mighty man for thy brethren; reign over them, and thy sons shall reign over their sons forever.
[9]Only teach thy sons the bow and all the weapons of war, in order that they may fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies.
2 Samuel 1:18
[18]and he told them to teach the children of Judah the Song of the Bow; indeed it is written in the Book of Jasher:
And what now? I just proved you wrong. See how connected this book is with the bible. The reason why Dina was defiled is explained. The reason why the sons of Judah had to learn the how to use the bow and all weapons, was because the caananites planned to ally themselves with other kingdoms against Israel. All started when Dina was captured and defiled by the prince of Canaan.
Please do an examined video on Melchizedek.🥺
Thank you so much for this! I am a baby Christian and just started a Bible study today. They said we were studying Hebrews, but then the instructor said we were using the book of jasher as a reference. I had heard of it before and I was interested, but unsure if it was really a book from the Bible. We spent no time in Hebrews, and the entire time in jasher. I came home and searched for the book of jasher on TH-cam. I am SO grateful for the work you have done on this book. I will ask the instructor about it, but if they decide to continue using this book then I think God wants me to find a different Bible study. Thank you!
Edited to say that I remember somewhere in Revelations that The Book is complete and nothing shall be added to, or taken away from It. I will keep my studies in the King James Bible.
Seems revelations didn’t listen to deuteronomy that keeps telling you no one can change add or subtract to it and even if someone comes and does signs and wonders if they do that they are a false prophet and get death
two verses .....prove the real bible.
Jesus on marriage?...> MATTHEW 19;12 '''''some become Eunechs for heaven' = Celibate????
Priests on women?....1 CORINTHIANS 14;34 ..'women must NOT SPEAK in church..disgraceful'?
.......ask these two questions of your priest/pastor....and @CASTRATO....defender of faith?
@1611 KJV txt images...king iames,iosephus, iacobus,iesus?......NO 'J' at all......try @ASHUR.
Blessings always, that's in REVELATION 22:18
Just so you know that it's believed that this verse in Revelation 22:18 that if anyone adds to takes away from "this prophesy", the Lord is referring to the prophesy John documented in the Book of Revelation, not the Bible. The Bible, or the books that make up the canon/Bible, was not in existance at the time of John's revelation.
A truly interesting text that I'd love to get my hands on.
Which version tho?
Wouldn't we all
@@Saint_nobody I think he means the authentic original? I'm pretty interested in that 13th Century text, though. It could be good.
Timely upload, I been reading The Encyclopedia of Lost and Rejected Scriptures, you should examine it
No scripture is rejected but books
If it was scripture no one would reject that...
Of course gnostic gospels and enoch would be one of them
@@asamanthinketh5944 so should I return the book?
Can you do a vid on alternate gospels like Marcions and the Gospel of the Hebrews?
If someone actually looks for the events said to be in the book of Jasher, you needent look very far, look in the Bible where the accounts of those events are repeated. You will find yourself in in I & II Chronicles. "The book of Jasher" seems to just be a metaphorical reference to the book of Chronicles.
Hmm I checked out the differences mentioned here in both texts and they seem to be easily explained away. May the Lord forgive me if I’m wrong.
1. Abraham could have left the city of Haran when 50 then the region of Haran when 75 according to scholars.
2. It actually was 10 plagues in Jasher if read carefully. It just details each plague so much they seem like different plagues. Example the Bible mentioning locusts but Jasher telling of other animals that joined in that one animal plague. Same plague, more details.
3. The Bible doesn’t explicitly say the sea was split into two… it just says it was split. So the 12 splits in Jasher could, by right, be an accurate inference.
So in short, Jasher could have actually been filling in what the Bible never bothered to detail to save space.
For the most part those details match though. The few discrepancies seem to be misunderstandings if anything.
I personally find the book of Jasher enlightening and revealing of difficult questions that the Bible doesn’t answer. And that’s not to discredit the Bible.
Texts that never made it into the Bible still have their value is all I’m saying.
Nice citation of Heiser, I know you disagree with him in some areas, but your circles (fans) overlap and its nice to see you give him props. ✌️
First time i heard about this book was one sermon i watched on youtube about Sodom and Gomorrah and how evil those people were. Book of Jasher goes into all sorts of details what those people did there but i immediately understood that this is suspicious because it is some "lost book of jasher". This video helped me to see clearly what is actually wrong with it. Thank you.
Can you make a video about the apocrypha. I love your channel God bless you Ip.
Gotta love the singling out of Rob Skiba.
Skiba loves it
@@AD-en5dq he’s dead
The book of Jasher can also be called the book of the Upright One. What it was probably referring to when it was citing prophecy was when Joseph had dreams in Genesis 37:7,9. In his second dream, he said the sun and the moon and the eleven stars obeyed him. That could mean they held still at his command. But these dreams undeniably draw parallels to the commands of Joshua in Joshua 10:12-13, also considering the first dream mentioned Joseph being “upright.” Joshua was descended from Joseph’s line, through his son Ephraim.
Another oddly fitting book is Habakkuk, though quite short it literally contains a song with the line "you uncovered your bow," and shortly afterwards "sun and moon stood still in the heavens at the glint of your flying arrows," and in an earlier chapter "the enemy is puffed up, his desires are not upright, but the righteous person will live by his faithfulness," although if this were the book of Jasher it would carry some weird implications, considering that David's description of Saul in his lament sounds pretty similar to Habakkuk's description of an arrogant heathen king.
I wonder if a copy of it still exists somewhere, even in fragments.
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An annoying possibility (believed by many) is that it hides in plain sight, being an alternate name for some other book. One scholar even thought it was the Pentateuch itself (I suppose in that case "the upright one" would be Moses).
there is a direct reference to 2 Samuel ch. 1! Jasher ch 56 7-9 "and on the next day Jacob again called for his sons, and they all assembled and came to him and sat before him, and Jacob on that day blessed his sons before his death, each man did he bless according to his blessing; behold it is written in the book of the law of the Lord appertaining to Israel. And Jacob said unto Judah, I know my son that thou art a mighty man for thy brethren; reign over them, and they sons shall reign over their sons forever. only teach thy sons the bow and all the weapons of war, in order that they fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies"
Yeah
So the first book was written in the late renaissance,
The entire book is basically fan fiction
The real one been lost.
Thank you
Please, do you have a video regarding Nihilism? I'm a believer but some of my friends are repeatedly arguing on everything.. please help IP. 🙏🏻
Nice!
What topics are you working on?
I like this channel but do u only do videos on philosophy and topics regarding abrahamic religion? no problem if u do but it's just a question
Another book I always wanted to read whenever the Bible referred to it was the annals of the kings of Israel. Any idea what that was?
You brought up a topic about how the book of Joshua and the Illiad have similar references about the sun standing still during battle. Just a note, the book of Joshua was estimated to have been written more than 700 years before the Illiad. That most likely indicates that Jasher and Joshua and other hebrew texts influced the Greeks later on, not the reverse.
Am I wrong that some fragments of the real Jashar have been found? I thought I recall reading that. I also wonder if any other early non-biblical books quote Jashar like the bible does. None of these things would be equivalent to finding a whole original scroll, but it would be interesting to even have a few additional quotes and fragments.
Any book that was not previously in the Jewish scripture shouldn’t be canonized it doesn’t matter. You can argue for the Maccabees and the book of Enoch because those were read in the 2nd temple period by many Jews I’m sure there are others in the deuterocanon but the only ones that I am aware of right now are those two.
Thanks for your interesting video. The book of Jasher is full of occult teachings. The real book mentioned in scripture is referring to the Book of Jubilees, (Book of the Divisions of the Times into their Jubilees and Weeks) which was found in the caves of Qumran (Muslim name, but really is Bethabara). More copies of the Book of Jubilees were found than the Book of Genesis. so the keepers of the scrolls obviously deemed it important. These were NOT the Essenes, which we have been taught by scholars, but was where John the Baptist lived because in 165 BC, the real priests fled when the temple was taken over by the wicked priests. ( the Maccabees took over the temple) In the Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English, translated by Geza Vermes, you can see that it was the Sons of Zadok who lived in Qumran (really Bethabara), not the Essenes.
When you read about John the baptist in the gospels, it all makes sense. 😊 These wicked priests were who Jesus was dealing with when he was at the temple. You can watch the video "Who Defiled the Temple?"
Since the author of Joshua quoted a book that referenced Saul according to 2 Samuel 1, Joshua can't be written before 1000 bc. Don't know if any scholars have used this piece of evidence, but it surely caught my eyes
I wouldn't necessarily argue that, although I could suggest that this "Song of the Bow" found in 2 Samuel 1 was added to the book afterwards, almost like a historical encyclopedia with a new addition to the book itself as time passes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jasher_(biblical_references)
It's hard to say unless we ever find the authentic Book of Jasher, but it would be interesting to see IP's response to your theory.
Great job as always keep up the good work .may I ask you sir to do the book of Enoch too I will love to know your thoughts about it 💜🙏.
He did make a video on the book of Enoch. Here's the link -
th-cam.com/video/440hI9lnAlc/w-d-xo.html
My mother, who has passed away now, decided to order the lost books of the Bible one day. But when she sat down at her desk to write the check and mail it out. The LORD spoke to her saying, "If I had wanted you to have those books I would have put them in the Bible." Needless to say my mother didnt order them.
And I myself was about to read the book of Jashar until I saw this video. But now, I, thinking back on my mother's experience and seeing this video today, have decided against it. Thank you again.
Ma’am/Sir, books like Enoch were in the Bible and removed by the elites of this world including King James (a freem*son) in addition to twisting verses. GOD’s name has also been removed and replaced by a title that men who have power in this physical world, also hold.
Theory: the Book of Jasher is a Phoenician astronomy text. Phoenicians dominated the Mediterranean for over 500 years due to their great ability to navigate by the stars, and their language was so similar to Hebrew that the two languages were probably mutually understandable, both in spoken and written form. The mention in Joshua could refer to solar and lunar standstills, and the mention in Samuel could refer to the Little Dipper, which resembles a bow and contains the North Star.
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And now can you do one on the book of Gad the seer which was supposedly discovered in cochin india
We find Gad in the sign of Aries (the Ram) which became El. Take a look at the Ram headed Zeus Ammon.
Can you do a video defending the criticism towards Daniel?
One of my favorite obscure references in the Bible
Hasn't there been audiobooks of this been out for ages?
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1 Kings (1 Samual) 24:13 quotes Yasher 7:48b
Can you please make a video on the Johannine Comma?
Whenever I read in the Bible, the statement, _"Is it not written in...",_ that's a red flag for me. That is; whoever is referencing a non-Scriptural book, is noting that it *is* not Scripture, yet in common usage by people, and that that person is only quoting it, to make a point of some sort. It doesn't even mean that that person quoting it, is in agreement with it. _(How many of us have quoted Lenin or Goebbels?)_ "Is it not written in" is a form of avoidance. Avoidance in validating a book, while using something from that book, to make a point clearer defined.
Can you do a video on the concept of purgatory?
That would be the sacred number forty and Lent. February is in this myth.
I've always wondered about this honestly. It's mentioned three times as you have said, it seems (to me) to have been prophecies for the Isrealites, the promises of God, so to say. Something to akin to Issiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Joel, maybe even something like Revealtion or Daniel. I don't think we have found the real one from what I've seen of these dozens of "Jasher" books. I belive maybe Enoch wrote the real one, but was lost to time. Enoch was raptured for a reason in Genesis, since we walked with God often. (Take that as you will). So maybe he was a prophet of sorts like Elijah (who was also taken to Heaven) and wrote down sayings from The Lord our God.
So when we as believer get to Heaven, maybe we could ask God our questions. Hopefully. But, and I don't mean to be harsh, but there is a reason why we the 66 Canon. I used to be sucked into the book of Enoch (1st Enoch) myself. It took me months to break away from it since no one gave me a good answer on why it was false. Two contradictions would be that the angels built the arc of Noah and another fallen angle tempted Eve, not Satan, even though Jesus said in Revealtion that Satan was the Serpent who tempted Eve. Another contrardiction is that Enoch was called to be the son of man, savior of all. People debate about that and who translated wrong.
Another false book would be The Book of Jubbilees. It takes out the mentions of God being three persons in their retelling of Genesis. It takes out the spirit of the lord of the earth in Genesis 1, and "let us make man in our image." As well as Genesis 19:24, "then The Lord (who was in a human body) rained fire and Sulphur on Sodom and Gomrrah from The Lord out of Heaven."
Anyway as I said, not to be harsh but I wanna help people with this since helped me at all with these false books in the past.
Amen and shalom.
Good explanation
@@xBeeGee thank you. I want to help everyone.
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Hey Michael, do you have plans to make an updated video on Jesus resurrection?
Why would he make it?
Is there anything of importance you think needs updating? His resurrection series is old but simply fantastic
@@Ivann1005 To cover some recent objections.
@@j.victor That seems like a good idea. Good suggestion.
Perhaps the Red Sea or Chaos, was divided into 12 signs which equates to the two seasons of winter and summer (as in Genesis one).
Jasher 56:9 actually does contain the scripture passage in 1 Samuel.
When I first read The Book of Joshua, and I read that verse. I actually thought it was a book in the Bible hahaha after looking for it, without success, I was so intrigued!! I asked other people and literally no one had even caught that verse
Biblical scholar George Bush is something I never would have thought I'd hear
7:33 - "let alone the second temple period" - »the first temple« to say, is not it?
Jasher 88:64
[64]And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Joshua, and the sun stood still in the midst of the heavens, and it stood still six and thirty moments, and the moon also stood still and hastened not to go down a whole day.
Joshua 10:13
[13]So the sun stood still, And the moon stopped, Till the people had revenge Upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
Jasher 56:8-9
[8]And Jacob said unto Judah, I know my son that thou art a mighty man for thy brethren; reign over them, and thy sons shall reign over their sons forever.
[9]Only teach thy sons the bow and all the weapons of war, in order that they may fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies.
2 Samuel 1:18
[18]and he told them to teach the children of Judah the Song of the Bow; indeed it is written in the Book of Jasher:
And what now? I just proved you wrong. See how connected this book is with the bible. The reason why Dina was defiled is explained. The reason why the sons of Judah had to learn the how to use the bow and all weapons, was because the caananites planned to ally themselves with other kingdoms against Israel. All started when Dina was captured and defiled by the prince of Canaan.
How bizarre. So, every time an ancient book is discovered we should add it to Scripture? That's a really weird theory of canon.
Was it a polemic against the Greek speaking tribes of Canaan?
OH BOY! It's ol' Rob Skiba! full confession though, he did get me interested in deeper biblical studies and led down the rabbit hole that got me here. credit where it's due, YHWH used him in my life, just not the way Rob may have thought...
I can attest the same. Yah used rob to really get me going down the Holy path. Although I’m now learning jasher isn’t really biblical at all, I’m even starting to have doubts about Enoch. Nonetheless both of these books helped my journey
I heard that Moses was referred to as the upright one so what they're referring to is the first five books of the Old Testament
Moses is a personification of the man/boy with the water pot. Follow this sign through the year and you will know when he is upright. Virgo is the funny one for as she sets headfirst her secrets are revealed and this is when Jupiter impregnates her with his sun rays. This happens on March 25, every year. Nine months later, on December 25, she gives birth to the baby sun...every year.
When this book is found ?
So your saying that the book of Jasher on the internet or online or on Google search is not the real book of Jasher is not the real book? And I shouldn't read them? And is the real book of Jasher Lost? But was that book of Jasher in the holy bible then taking out? Like is the holy bible 66 chapters or 67 chapter with the book of Jasher? Or is there more chapter taking out? Like Was the book of Enoch taking out of the holy bible? Does the book of Enoch belong in the holy bible? I dont want to add or take away from the word of O Amighty God I Am Amen Deuteronomy 4:2-12:32 -Proverbs 30:5-6- Revelation 22:18 there more scripture on this topic in the holy bible.
Thank you. I'm halfway through reading it but I'll stop. The fact it wasn't contained within the dead sea scrolls was a red flag that I shouldn't of ignored
i have read it, i used to use it when talking to muslims about the part that ishmael wanted to kill isaac with his bow and arrow
u know...the talking/
discussing is over for humanity...religions....cultures....faith....will soon be over and shattered (understanding and outgrowing our current human concious vibratition into our next evolution is at hand) evry religion is right, but evry religion is incomplete and miss concepted...there is coming one. the first "one" That will show this to us, i have been going deep into ,islam,christianity,hinduism,judiusm,zohar,kabbalah,mysticism,occult. and evry religion.... is waiting for the coming of the first evolved being-human...the lotus master,christ,prophet,budha (our next level of potential being)....the truth is that evry human being is still asleep and onconcious(evryone feels it in there heart but can not comprehent it)....many humans went down the rabbit hole and drove themselfs lost or in insanity...humanity made so many mistakes (out of ignorance and infant conciousness) i could even argue the bible should not have been a book for evryone to read,and definitly not for sleeping onconcious human beings to read...let alone forcing people in faith....that alone even is a bigger disaster..(thats what christians are doing constantly btw...forcing people to god(the devine), when they are onconciously driven themselfs by fear and axiety of scriptures from onconcious manic prophets themselfs trying to evolve.the devine....is not evil....gives no punishment...as the bible says we are its children....and evrything we do wrong and need to learn...(yes even murder) is out of ignorance and piled up unhealed trauma and ignorance...the fear of ourselfs.... the unknown...the understanding of our reality...and evrytime that defines and we connect to with our individual being....patriotisme,nationalisme,race,culture,languages,even religion etc etc are all limitations! to our potential and spiritual being...(a false sense of identity)
i can bombard u with knowlegde...to se what i se...how i se US...but thats not enough...u need to learn to se it for urself...i know now....the impact on evry human being its identity, its the same why people reject the bible or other religions....when they give in.. there being and who they are changed in an instance...its a revelation... but then even still no one is right...no one trully understands....if someone did he would be the christ and the christ would allready be here...the suffering of human beings is so sad....and the happy ones need to be left alone sleeping...so many depressed semi woke spiritual human beings that are lost...and yet....our evolution is so beautiful,so amazing,the innocence and ignorance is even beautiful to watch... dus ik wil maar 1 ding tegen je zeggen...laat je niet vasthouden door 1 geloof en probeer je weg naar het oneindige te vinden.
@@privatprivat7279 what is your basis for these claims?
@@josua365 my researtch,my mind,my thoughts...but thats what i said....i have no proof...its just my thoughts i share with u,and u can do with it as u please...humanity needs proof and action...not just thoughts...
@@josua365 he ignorant: don't worry about this guy ! All hot air.
@@privatprivat7279 ik ben Christen en ik blijf daarbij Jezus is de Weg de Waarheid en het Leven. ik ben niet zo'n new age freak die zegt in elke religie wel iets moois te zien!! i used to read many gnostic books years ago, i was a liberal Christian. but it didnt suit me at all. i always say do NOT be open minded about religion. about 5 years ago i totally gave my heart to Jesus/Christianity it was my best decision ever.
This is why Theodosius should not have allowed the Library of Alexandria to be burned down, damn it! This is partly why the other six volumes of The Epic Cycle (The Iliad and The Odyssey are volumes 2 and 7 in this epic) have not survived in their entirety.
I wonder if it was ever a book are just handed down orally.
Thats sad, I wonder though if it would count as sacred scripture if it were to be found.
If it's quoted in the bible what else do you need to study it.
Well this should be interesting.
Well the editing style looks different, like the book of jasher found on the internet
The Holy Ghost is the BEST scholar
The Book of Jasher contains instructions on how to build an unstoppable army of flying saucers and android supersoldiers.
Was it lost? or STOLEN!
Lmao
Spoken like a true Rocket Man. lol
Hey IP, have you watched Rob Skiba's videos before? Are you familiar with his Babylon Rising video series?
Rob Skiba's a flat earther and conspiracy theorist. If you want historical sources on the religion and culture of Babylon and how other MENA cultures paralleled that, go somewhere other than that guy. He has slides in his videos that try to compare women's hairstyles to Indigenous skull-shaping and claim that this is "evidence" of Nephilim. Also, he has absolutely NO understanding of Hebrew: he claimed that 'NASA' (the US space agency) was the same word for the Hebrew word 'deceive', which is simply not factual. The word 'nassa' in Hebrew means 'to lift/elevate', and the word 'naSHa' means deceive. 2 totally different words. He's been corrected on this and his bunk flat earther claims, but refuses to change. Seek other teachers.
@@Vishanti Thank you for the reply. I was asking because I discovered Rob Skiba about 3 years ago, ripped through the majority of his material and determined it to be mostly off the walls, although some of it intriguing. This video here was the first time I have ever seen anybody else reference him or even know about him, so I was curious on opinions.
@@mxkingpin91 Yeah, you know exactly how Skiba operates, then. He prefers a conspiracy to hard evidence, and trying to claim the text of the Scripture is somehow lying when it gives firm numbers for things. I was floored by his claim that despite numerous passages to the contrary, Israel wasn't in Egypt for 430 years. It got me so spun up I had to write a short essay to debunk him! It's not surprising he likes referencing the Book of Yasher, considering its non-canonical status and tendency towards the fantastical. I wonder if he thinks it's literal when one of Jacob's sons did a war cry so loud that the women of a city gave birth prematurely, or how (iirc) Shimeon and Levi were scaling the walls of a city like Spider-Man, LOL! Just wild stuff.
When was the real book of Jasher lost?
I wonder why they have not found a copy in the dead sea scrolls ? It seems that if the book had any significance to the Jews, that they would have had a copy there. Maybe they have , but have kept the find from the public.
Jasher is good when it comes to its biblical chronology about how Genesis isn't always straight with you with everything of its chronology but it definitely is bad in a lot of cases though too.
Quick question: Where do you find the 15 plagues in Jasher? in Jasher 80, it talks about only 10 plagues. I'm trying to show my congregation all the discrepancies so we can STOP studying it!
There's only 10 plagues lol
@@megz122 no kidding, but the video explains:
Jasher said there were 15.....but what chapter do you find that info?
I cannot find 15. Only 10
@@Karri-Hi-Vibes It doesn't say that at all is the point.
@@Karri-Hi-Vibes Jasher 80:51
[51]And Moses said to her, Surely ten plagues did the Lord bring upon Egypt; did any evil accrue to thee from any of them? did one of them affect thee? and she said, No.
@@megz122 ok, at 8:25 in the video the author claimed that Jasher said there was 15 plagues......I don't see it in the book of Jasher! So is this claim false, or am I missing something?
I thought it was found with the dead sea scrolls
as far as i know its been out for atleat 4 years
I spy Frodo's sword Sting @7:43
Nothing new under the sun happens, repeats through ages that come and go, any thing new is above the sun and invisible to sons of man, awakened to being sons of God then you see it with eternal truth. All letters are shadows and secular history that keeps you looking outside repeating.
Ecclesiastes 3:15:
“That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.”
The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
Thanks for this, I was just arguing with an atheist that was claiming Jesus, Mary, John the Baptist and even prophet Mohammed didn't exist, smh
Don't waste your time with such ignorance... Arguing with people of other faiths is far more intriguing, IMHO.
@@Saint_nobody We can not ignore Our Blessed Lord's command to spread the evangelion and make disciples of all nations. If toil a lifetime and save one soul, it is another person forever to be with God in glory for all eternity who would otherwise we doomed to eternal damnation. So I must implore, yes do deal with such ignorance if the Lord calls one to it, it is never a waste to attempt to use this passing life to bring about the salvation for all eternity of another, that is a great expression of the meaning of charity and bearing one's cross in imitation of Christ.
John the Baptist, Jesus and mohamed much probably existed, we don't have extra sources about Mary, but isn't too improbable that she also existed
Really don't understand the fascination with extra biblical texts. The book Jasper contradicts 1/3 of the Bible books. It calls into question the many references that Jesus made concerning Moses. We are not even in agreement with the revelation in the Bible as it stands. Why did I watch the video? Because I would support anyone that questions the validity of this and other such books.
if books like jasher or enoch etc are not biblical canon then that is because God does not want it to be therefore anything that is not biblical canon should not be canon
That's up to Zeus, the supreme God of the bible.
Enoch has Biblical credence but the original manuscript isn’t known to us anymore. There’s Gnostic changes clearly added to the text. But nonetheless the Biblical authors Peter and Jude copied quotes and themes directly from Enoch and the context of those statements have no similarities to the Pagan references in other parts of the Bible that were quoted. They are specifically endorsing that at one point there was an authentic book. I would also point out that the Book of Job may have been written by Enoch based on the similarities in the perspective of the Author and the vocabulary used in the work.
That all said, if it’s not directly found in the known 66 books then it’s not canon and I agree with you 😉
GOD Bless! ❤️
@@narrowistheway77 the book of Job takes place during the time of Abraham long after the flood; thus long after Enoch.
So in other words???...no...it hasn't been found
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Still just as lost as the Book of Nathan the Prophet and the Book Gad the Seer.
1st off, Some that have been given a true gift of Discernment can simply read the book and know that it should have been included in the bible, esp since it was quoted in the Bible as a book to read. There are several books that have been found with ancient scrolls, yet there seems to be a certain Book of Jasher along with the Genesis Apocryphon that were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls in the year 1947. Also the Catholic Church took it upon themselves to remove so many as 75 books maybe more, who knows. Once you see that the False Prophet is of such church, you will then figure out as to why these things were removed as foretold to us in the bible by God, himself. God knows all, and with having the foreknowledge to know that the good book would be messed with. The Catholic Church finally admitted that they removed Enoch 1 from the Bible. Yes it can be confusing if you are not aware of who is who. Enoch 1 is the grandfather of Noah and he was a "just" man and escaped the first death and walked with God. If you pay attention, there were only two men that did so. There will also be two witnesses in the end days that will be killed and lay in the streets for all to see for 3.5 days. In my opinion, that would be Enoch and Elijah, since they walk with God and yet ALL men must experience the first death. It's the 2nd death that we as true followers of Christ, need to not experience, which, if we make sure that we confess to God our sins, ask for forgiveness and repent of those sins, you shouldn't worry. Also when Jesus fulfilled the 10 commandments, he created a new one and said for us all to love one another.
Facts
@@janiwinbush815 I hope you have a blessed day!
@@KSmallz Where did you get 75 books taken out of the bible
@@snopespeerreview Takes days of research on your own to see it. That is all I can say atm. For many, if they do not see it on their own, they do not believe it.
@@KSmallz Is it by looking up every single biblical like book that existed around the time of christ like the ascension of isaiah testament of levi etc
You made a mistake here. There are also copyist errors in the bible, yet also accurate quotations. You said that the book of jasher, that exists today has nothing related with the bible, but that is wrong.
Joshua 10:13
[13]So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies. Is it not written in the book of Jashar? And the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
Jasher 88:64
[64]And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Joshua, and the sun stood still in the midst of the heavens, and it stood still six and thirty moments, and the moon also stood still and hastened not to go down a whole day.
2 Samuel 1:17-18
[17]Then David chanted with this lament over Saul and Jonathan his son,
[18]and he told them to teach the sons of Judah the song of the bow; behold, it is written in the book of Jashar.
Jasher 56:8-9
[8]And Jacob said unto Judah, I know my son that thou art a mighty man for thy brethren; reign over them, and thy sons shall reign over their sons forever.
[9]Only teach thy sons the bow and all the weapons of war, in order that they may fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies.
Examples of Copyists' Errors
2 Samuel 21:19; 1 Chronicles 20:15
2 Kings 24:8; 2 Chronicles 36:9
2 Samuel 8:3,16,19; 1 Chronicles 18:3
1 Kings 4:26; 2 Chronicles 9:25
As you can see there no excuse not to accept the Book of Jasher if the copyist errors already exist. So wich is wich? And did you know also that the masoretic text was written centuries later after the death and resurrection of Christ? The masoretic text contains modern Hebrew also, and it's still accepted, even though it went through certain changes.
In 2 Timonthy:3 Paul mentions Jannes and Jambres the magicians Moses confronted, who's name are not given in Genesis but are mentioned in Jasher.( also some fragments among the dead sea scrolls mentioned Jannes and Jambres),
the testament of the 12 patriarchs refers and gives context to events that happens in Jasher such as the siege of the 7 Amorite cities.
I truly believe that the Book of Jasher will help people today who think logically to understand the stories in the Old Testament and know more about God. I really think the Book of Jasher is important for our time and could help many Westerners understand and like the Bible better. It seems like God wants everyone to have this book! So, I recommend checking out this video to learn more about the Book of Jasher! th-cam.com/video/fxMNn50Pw90/w-d-xo.html