The Gospel of Thomas Examined

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    This is an in-depth look into what the gospel of Thomas is and when it was written.
    Sources:
    Simon Gathercole - The Gospel of Thomas
    NT Wright - The New Testament and the People of God
    Craig Evans - Fabricating Jesus
    John P. Meier - A Marginal Jew
    Darrell Bock and Dan Wallace - Dethroning Jesus
    Hippolytus of Rome - Refutation of all Heresies
    Cyril of Jerusalem - Catechesis Lecture
    Richard Bauckham - Jesus and the Eyewitnesses
    Nicholas Perrin - Thomas: The Fifth Gospel?

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  • @b.arborio2404
    @b.arborio2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    3,000 yrs from now, when Our future selves , translate & unravel the mysteries of Ancient Social Media, it'd be funny to watch Academics argue the difference between a Twitter Feed and a Facebook Blog.

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      A depressing but astute thought.

    • @x.r.d7744
      @x.r.d7744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Jesus will return before that time comes.

    • @b.arborio2404
      @b.arborio2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@x.r.d7744 will He post it on FaceBook or his Twitter Feed?

    • @barbaraolson600
      @barbaraolson600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not sure the electronics will be preserved to interpret! May be better if all the porn and conspiracy remains here and does not infect other eras.

    • @b.arborio2404
      @b.arborio2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@barbaraolson600 Didn't Mary Magdalen
      make her living from porn and Jesus Christ die from a conspiracy 🤔?

  • @OrangePony75
    @OrangePony75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    Am I the only one who finds this “gospel” astonishingly buddhist in nature and form?

    • @lenlen8099
      @lenlen8099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Me too

    • @pheb29
      @pheb29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yes🙏 I don't think the guy in this video gets it.

    • @neveahokay4254
      @neveahokay4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      religion was made to separate

    • @AWikkedMoon
      @AWikkedMoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Know the Sacred Secret. What is it? It is the name of someOne. "I AM the SON of MAN". Christ said this. Who is MAN then? Find out. Truth will blow you away. For it can only be KNOWN, not believed. "The Gnostic Truth, The Sacred Secret". th-cam.com/video/CO9v3OIFnxM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AWikkedMoon

    • @tra129iscool
      @tra129iscool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Buddhisism is astonishingly like Hinduism ..in fact India outsourced their religion to China
      Irony

  • @Edgar-xz7uw
    @Edgar-xz7uw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    "These are the hidden words that the living Jesus spoke!?"But John 18:20 states "I have spoken openly to the world," Jesus replied. "I always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret."

    • @gamer7916
      @gamer7916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Edgar W what about that time when Jesus transfigured but told his disciples to never tell anyone about it until his resurrection?

    • @dmx7329
      @dmx7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you mean in the movie since i personally never saw that in the true canon gospel and btw even if that was stated somewhere in the gospel he still later on revealed it and told it the entire world btw it was the only thing he spoke in hideness

    • @psalm5187
      @psalm5187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      gamer7916..... yes. "until the son of Man is risen from the dead", the truth had to be somewhat veiled until the appointed time. The Transfiguration would show the true divine nature of Jesus Christ the eternal Son of God Most High, which was later to be fully unveiled by the Apostles.

    • @gamer7916
      @gamer7916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GMS7 but it was hidden to everyone else besides the disciples until Jesus resurrected

    • @dmx7329
      @dmx7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i think that is less of a problem actually

  • @nuovaapologetica6495
    @nuovaapologetica6495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    "the light is in everybody" and "hidden words" smell a lot gnosticism

    • @Alephkilo
      @Alephkilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Nuova Apologetica
      What about Mathew 6:23 .. does it smell like gnostism to you? It is not surprising that the church rallied against gnosticm as it didn’t preclude the need for priesthood or church authority..

    • @jknott1509
      @jknott1509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Alephkilo the same for protestants

    • @Zatoitchy
      @Zatoitchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      All religion including Christianity, is about THE religious experience that is the ultimate goal of human life. It’s called enlightenment in Eastern religion, and “Entering the kingdom of heaven” in Christianity.

    • @arockpcb1347
      @arockpcb1347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Gnosticism is a great place to start. Try it then judge

    • @bradenglass4753
      @bradenglass4753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Alephkilo thats not gnostic..... youre an idiot. The gospel of thomas is a foolish, pagan, gnostic blasphemy work that was even condemmed by church fathers for teaching eastern mysticism. Only kids who want to be "different", iddntify with it because mainstream is bad, or something. Idk im not a heretic but you people NEED jesus, the real jesus.

  • @esauponce9759
    @esauponce9759 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Great! Are you starting like a series on analyzing the Gospels (and the apocryphal gospels) independently?

    • @Ellier215
      @Ellier215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes please.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @Coach-V
    @Coach-V 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Quite a few scholars in academia suggest a composition of late 1st, early 2nd century for Thomas (which puts it in the wheelhouse of primary sources/witnesses) but most of those i've studied identify it as a type of "NT pseudepigrapha" and attribute authorship to more radical offshoots such as the Essenes or the Gnostics created by S. Magus.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @bromponie7330
    @bromponie7330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Regardless of one's opinion on this document's teachings, one has to admit that the gospel of Thomas (c. 100 - 180) having manuscripts from around c. 200 is quite impressive!

    • @goyonman9655
      @goyonman9655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol

    • @paulg.2103
      @paulg.2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's go with 1sr century. Study and show thy self approved. No cheap shot at you.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

    • @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un
      @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911

    • @carefullychristian8657
      @carefullychristian8657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But 200 is late

  • @altareggo
    @altareggo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is EPIC research! A lot of information presented quite succinctly and cogently. BRAVO!! I love how detailed the discussion is, about the dating of the book: pros and cons are presented for various viewpoints, and discussed rationally. MANY THANKS!!

    • @paulg.2103
      @paulg.2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Far from EPIC... you're being way to enthusiastic

    • @warrior4christ578
      @warrior4christ578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulg.2103 this is epic, a lot of lazy uneducated foolish people out there that lack the wisdom and knowledge that this man said in the video which is a blessing.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @-LuisCja86-
    @-LuisCja86- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Peace to everyone: In Saying 14 of the Gospel of Thomas, The Messiah is not necessarily saying that fasting, praying, or giving to charity are inherently bad or negative actions. Rather, it suggests that these external practices alone are not sufficient for spiritual growth or salvation. In addition, this is a response to saying 6 (Compered to Matthew 6:1-8); The saying challenges the idea that engaging in religious rituals without a genuine and sincere internal connection to spirituality may be counterproductive. It emphasizes the importance of authenticity and integrity in one's spiritual practices. It suggests that true spirituality involves a deeper, more personal relationship with oneself, others, and G-d, and goes beyond mere outward religious observance. Thank you, great video, really good info.

    • @stacielivinthedream8510
      @stacielivinthedream8510 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, he got that really wrong!

    • @hippykiller2775
      @hippykiller2775 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@stacielivinthedream8510Dude doesn't study Jesus, he instead uses the religion of Christianity to show off his superiority as if he was a cop. Honestly with his support for the genocide in Gaza I have no idea how he even calls himself a follow pf Jesus.

    • @timothyodeyale6565
      @timothyodeyale6565 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      is it a genocide though?​@@hippykiller2775

    • @kuafer3687
      @kuafer3687 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why do you censor God lmao

    • @-LuisCja86-
      @-LuisCja86- 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kuafer3687 I choose to use the form "G-d" as a way to demonstrate my respect and reverence for the name of G-d. In some traditions like Judaism (which i don’t follow), the name of G-d is/considered holy and not to be spoken or written casually. By omitting the letter "o" in the word "God," I strive to avoid any potential disrespect or misuse of the sacred name. This practice is a personal decision that aligns with my beliefs and values.

  • @jdshl8423
    @jdshl8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Amazing. As I watched this, it completely reminded me of the Quran. Both of these are incoherent in very similar ways, telling a different "truth" after the apparent fact hundreds of years later, without much manuscript evidence, and whatever is available shows the story to be evolving ove time.

    • @AlphaQ922
      @AlphaQ922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There is absolutely no similarity between the Gospel of Thomas and the Quran. The latter is about God telling man what kind of chastisement awaits him if he doesn’t follow Muhammad or associates others with God... in a nutshell. Read the gospel of Thomas and then form your view.

    • @X_mano
      @X_mano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Islam would be way better if they use the gospel of Thomas instead of the Qur'an 😂😂😂

    • @ashman8406
      @ashman8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@X_mano do not say such a thing

    • @carlgrove8793
      @carlgrove8793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It does, because the Gospel of Thomas is squarely within the Sufi tradition. In fact, if you are familiar with the Sufi classics, there is little problem in understanding the teachings in Thomas. There is no incoherence once you cease to look for a set of authoritarian beliefs to follow.

    • @carlgrove8793
      @carlgrove8793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlphaQ922 You clearly haven't given the Quran much time. It is a far more complex and sophisticated teaching instrument than that, but it will only really function for people with a good grasp of Classical Arabic, they say. It is said to have seven levels of meaning, of which the overt "religious" form is the most superficial.

  • @janddbackup
    @janddbackup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Minor correction: @1:39 John 14:6 says Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Jesus being the Light is found in John 1:9 and 8:12.

    • @interpretingscripture8068
      @interpretingscripture8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im sure it was a slip of the tongue :)

    • @benjamindupuy7419
      @benjamindupuy7419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen to what is being said instead of what you want to hear.

    • @evangelinegilbero8211
      @evangelinegilbero8211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      THEMAN DIED ON THE CROSS EVENT NOT HIS NAME JESUS..only gentile greek gave his name Jesus..
      In hebrew his name is yahawashi..the messiah

    • @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un
      @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911

  • @cedb3360
    @cedb3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Whooooaa. I didn't get any of this but it felt like the DaVinci code movie.

    • @djnormalnorman6590
      @djnormalnorman6590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch a video on the actual book of Tomas sayings it’s about a half hour long.dont try to work it out just listen then look up this guy Passingby33 he explains them.do it it’s worth your while.......ps I’m not a god bod or religious nut 😆

    • @liljade53
      @liljade53 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read the Gospel of Thomas and I found it downright funny! One would think SNL had written it

  • @magykjames9534
    @magykjames9534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The timeline analysis around 6:46 is a really great visual. I'd love to see a deep dive on that.

  • @othername6345
    @othername6345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Thanks for all the time you put into your work! Ps. Watched your debate with Aron Ra on Wise Discipline and it was epic.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @victorzane7737
    @victorzane7737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Micheal you should do a series on the apocrypha, church fathers, and lost texts.

  • @rekeinserah
    @rekeinserah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    “Some how I’ll, make a Man, out of youuuuu”

    • @spiritualcoconut4478
      @spiritualcoconut4478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rekeinserah
      Who is that girl I see....

    • @akimoetam1282
      @akimoetam1282 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This doesn’t help your case

    • @davidestes5661
      @davidestes5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is a man to a God?

    • @marcoramirez313
      @marcoramirez313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why was I a fool in school for cutting gyyymmm:/ 😁😂

    • @jacobrainey8044
      @jacobrainey8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marco ramirez
      This guy’s got him scared to death

  • @jcs200000
    @jcs200000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Very cogent analysis. Agree with timeline and dating. The gospel itself seems more meaningful and relevant when viewed from a modern perspective. Truth inside a riddle. It is definitely worth a full read.

    • @gilgamesh7652
      @gilgamesh7652 ปีที่แล้ว

      So that's why God made things like these because we weren't ready at that time

    • @TheUnderDogUzumaki
      @TheUnderDogUzumaki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is not a Gospel

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @camilotorres8262
    @camilotorres8262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's great to see you posting again what happened to the channel the last couple of weeks? It kept on telling me it had closed.

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is strange, as I have been posting every two or three weeks.

    • @camilotorres8262
      @camilotorres8262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love your content, it has helped me tremendously on understanding my faith I was pretty upset to see that the channel had closed... you should look in to it.
      Keep up the great work. God bless you

  • @joshuaprimrosearchives4704
    @joshuaprimrosearchives4704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Jesus didnt say fasting or prayer was “bad” he said fasting and prayer condemned self
    (condemned sense of self, ego)

    • @SvjezAlbanjez
      @SvjezAlbanjez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He said dont go from one end to the other.Dont be obsessed over fasting nor eating too much.Always be balanced,eat only to survive but if somebody offers you food,be generous to say yes to them.

    • @barbaraolson600
      @barbaraolson600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This man can not understand all the concepts. Jesus May have said only prayer and fasting but due to the age of this document some minor words that change concepts are missing. Really would like to read all the books in entirety but those days are gone. Thank you for your comment.

    • @langreeves6419
      @langreeves6419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus was a bit different. John the Baptist was more of an ascetic and fasted frequently. But Jesus ate and drink, and was criticized for being a glutton.
      The gnostics also tended to be very ascetic, since they believed the material world to be bad, then enjoying this physical life is bad.

    • @Alephkilo
      @Alephkilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@langreeves6419
      No Jesus taught about not worrying about earthly things but to first seek the kingdom of God And all things will come onto you.

    • @langreeves6419
      @langreeves6419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alephkilo that too, I was pointing out a key difference

  • @sammathai761
    @sammathai761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Could you please do a video on the “Missing Years of Christ”?

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      It would be 10 seconds, he was a carpenter in Nazareth. The end.

    • @sammathai761
      @sammathai761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      With all due respect I TOTALLY agree. But here in India, it's a point of contention. People actually think He came to Kashmir and learned Buddhism. And when I ask my friends to show their source, it's usually some hack job. Nothing academic. When I try to tell them that this is not true, I am met with, "You are a Christian, that's why you don't accept it", nonsense. Ergo, the request.
      Thank you for the videos. God bless.

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yeah, I plan to address that nonsense.

    • @bromponie7330
      @bromponie7330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not much to be said about that... that's why it's _"missing XD

    • @maryah8642
      @maryah8642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      InspiringPhilosophy Also do a video refuting people who claim Jesus only became the Son of God at baptism and how this is simply untrue.

  • @laxmipandit1440
    @laxmipandit1440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    The Indian Orthodox Church which is 2000 years old was establushed by St Thomas as per the directions if Christ. If St Thomas had written a gospel it would have been with this church as it was directly established by him. The Gospel of St Thomas was written by someone else other than st thomas the apostle.

    • @Alephkilo
      @Alephkilo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Laxmi Pandit
      We really don’t have written records fm Thomas in India and his teachings. Why is that? It is also interesting to note that when the Portuguese came to Goa they found that Christianity albeit a different version was established in the region as well as Kerala. After conveying this to Rome... there was schism as the teachings were said to be different fm that of the canonical gospels.. which were of cos formulated hundreds of years after Jesus.what happened to the written records of St Thomas sayings?

    • @sabcam2000
      @sabcam2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Wahyu Suryaningpraja Who is Jesus?

    • @jonathanjensen189
      @jonathanjensen189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Wahyu Suryaningpraja that from the Quran is based on the Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter, where the "living Jesus", the resurrected Jesus (as in the Gospel of Thomas) is understood to be alive, whereas his body was what was put to death. The distinction is between the "living Jesus" and the dead man. It's his actual body, and not someone else's body. The place Muhammad quoted didn't have to do with Jesus not actually being crucified, but it had to do with Jesus surviving by way of being resurrected.
      It's a false dichotomy to think that Jesus either had to not be crucified at all, or else God didn't hear him.

    • @kenwebster5053
      @kenwebster5053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sabcam2000John 14:16 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Romans 8 describes Jesus as a 2nd type (progenitor) of Adam, in other words, a 2nd or alternative inheritance. A divine spiritual inheritance of life rather than Adam's (flesh) inheritance of death.

    • @kofiboat779
      @kofiboat779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All the gospel were written by people who wasn't with Jesus

  • @larryclark9380
    @larryclark9380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done. Have you done anything similar on the “apocrypha”?

    • @WarmPotato
      @WarmPotato 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Larry Clark ^This

  • @nickc1010
    @nickc1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This should be good. God bless IP 📖🙏👐

  • @robinlazulite3167
    @robinlazulite3167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im thankful for youtube because of channels like yours.

  • @pentalarclikesit822
    @pentalarclikesit822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think one of the word "Gospel" in the title is making people treat it as one, even though it is simply a list of sayings, with no narrative, which is an entirely different thing from the Cannonical Four

  • @OnTheThirdDay
    @OnTheThirdDay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you. I think that it would be cool if you included in more "opposing arguments" and explain how they don't hold up.

    • @hansdladla9849
      @hansdladla9849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, intellectually the critique is bias

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cant argue intellectual on this topic because its beyond mind ,its pointless its on a whole different layer

  • @spacemanonearth
    @spacemanonearth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do like your reasoning on the timeline for the GoT, and much I also agree could be the case. But there are other variables that were not mentioned as well that would effect how this evolved. Thanks for your video!

  • @brandontaylor3249
    @brandontaylor3249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great video. It's time for you to have videos concerning Gnosticism. Refer to Dr. Michael Heiser's video on it.

  • @RickOnTheDrums
    @RickOnTheDrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Will you do a video on the gospels of Philip, Peter, and Judas?

    • @lukesalazar9283
      @lukesalazar9283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rick OnTheDrums maybe Mary as well?

    • @MVC4ThaLord
      @MVC4ThaLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally different what Christ says is Truth and One, it's all him. What others say can Contradict each other for whatever purpose or reason but Christ never contradicted himself HE is The Way, Truth, and Life. Every word he says is true their is no different Truth he spoke. Religions can use his words to try and discredit his words but you see that doesn't work. The other books u talk about May be teaching certain things contrary to Gospel. But the words Christ Jesus spoke are the words he spoke. Never is He saying something different about something He taught on before, you see.

    • @MVC4ThaLord
      @MVC4ThaLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cero Z I understand this, I was trying to explain that to the others that don't realize he spoke many more words than what is included in the Bible. Yep that's what I'm saying. Thanks God Bless.

  • @datdon1
    @datdon1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    best most objective video ive seen so far on this book

  • @Archangel657
    @Archangel657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video.
    What do you plan to make next?

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A video on Inanna and then the Gospel of Judas

    • @Archangel657
      @Archangel657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy
      Sounds great!
      Keep up the great work!
      Also, what is your line of work?

    • @cmk5724
      @cmk5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy Inanna the goddess?

    • @Archangel657
      @Archangel657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy
      😂😂😂

  • @Sethan777
    @Sethan777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Fasting and Prayer are bad, if they come from *EGO*
    The context is important!
    See Logion 1

    • @Sluppie
      @Sluppie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's very similar to the idea of giving freely and in happily, as opposed to giving reluctantly.

    • @mathewsgeorge6051
      @mathewsgeorge6051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Jasen, I agree with you. You have a good knowledge of spiritual values.

    • @jkeziah177
      @jkeziah177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If we r gods then where 📍❓is the powers why we r help less some times and we can not do what a normal can do

    • @Sethan777
      @Sethan777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jkeziah177 (4) “When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
      (5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty.”
      Thomas Gospel

    • @raymondfox8178
      @raymondfox8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not if it gives you a beach body

  • @MrManwookie
    @MrManwookie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Have you ever thought about pursuing a degree in New Testament/systematic theology? You have a gift, brother :) you’re doing great work, and these videos are greatly needed for the wider church. If/when I get a teaching post, these videos will be required watching

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      If I get enough donation support to go full-time I will, but until then I need to earn a living.

    • @johnhurt1760
      @johnhurt1760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You do have some good talents for making a video, but you do not have your facts correct. Another person on this thread (Fact V Fiction) is complaining that at 1.39 Light is not Life. You need to fix the video and start over with a new one. Only the people that don't read the Bible or check up with what you have stated will be impressed with this video, which, is probably why this video is just as popular as the other videos out there.

    • @mantralibre1367
      @mantralibre1367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paleology is the way to go, if i can suggest.

    • @Fire-Toolz
      @Fire-Toolz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@johnhurt1760 bro, it's one word. & it's a very commonly misspoken word in one of the most popular christian verses of all time. give the man a break. you want him to delete the video & start over because he said "light" & not "life?" chill out man lol

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @josemolina3858
    @josemolina3858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Light is with all"
    "Fasting and prayers is bad"
    "Green thinker "
    That says it all that Thomas gospel was so unbiblical
    I love jesus for he did not come to destroy the law but fulfill it, rejoice in his mighty name alleluya!!

    • @Shindler39
      @Shindler39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If Thomas really said that Prayer is bad now I understand why this gospel is not in the Bible, that is really shocking.

    • @gbd-oq1rz
      @gbd-oq1rz ปีที่แล้ว

      New age thinking

  • @Reddogovereasy
    @Reddogovereasy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    The gospel of Thomas is an attempt to marry Indian Hinduism to Christianity. I've read the Vedas and the Gospels and there are no open correlations except the Gospel of Thomas.

    • @darkknight798
      @darkknight798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Good point

    • @truthseeker2275
      @truthseeker2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Especially if you read the Gospel of Marry, you see a lot of Gnostic teaching. Modern Christians want to say there is one way, but there were sects that claim to have direct experience of God (Gnosis) through private meditation but were destroyed by the more popular, and politically successful class that prayed in public.

    • @truthseeker2275
      @truthseeker2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anjelus, So you are a Catholic then?

    • @truthseeker2275
      @truthseeker2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You "Could be" - but what are you? I heard the Catholics worshiped Idols, but does that make it true? I heard the Gnostics also ate babies and had orgies..but does that make it true? We don't have the true Gnostic teaching because they were secret they were not shared with everyone! So what are you? - I bet you are in none of the early churches you mentioned.

    • @tony3603
      @tony3603 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, do you mind telling me how the Vedas and the gospel of Thomas correlate?

  • @JuniaThePriest
    @JuniaThePriest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    When you talk about Jesus being portrayed as a Greek philosopher, you miss the point that the only complete manuscript for Thomas is in Nag Hammadi codex II which along with the rest of the Nag Hammadi codices were most likely part of a Gnostic library. Seeing as we have strong evidence (from other texts in the Nag Hammadi library) of texts being modified, it is most likely that the reason for this version of Thomas being influenced by the Greek tradition is due to its Gnostic influences.
    I'm hoping you would reconsider redoing this video with some more focus on the Gnostic influences on this gospel as they are very important and in this video completely left out.

  • @arthurk188
    @arthurk188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Gospel of Thomas, the Book of Thomas the Contender and the Acts of Thomas all come from eastern Syria aka Upper Mesopotamia, specifically Edessa.

    • @Kprich
      @Kprich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      arthurk188 Thomas was sent to do his discipleship in Syria and surrounding areas.

  • @MrTahref
    @MrTahref 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You also going to make a video about the book of Enoch?

    • @TheJuan72
      @TheJuan72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Non canonical, too much fantasies, non orthodox, spurious. not divine inspired. out.

    • @afrizal4108
      @afrizal4108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quran Chapter 19(Mary) :
      ( 56 ) And mention in the Book, Enoch. Indeed, he was a man of truth and a prophet.
      ( 57 ) And We raised him to a high station.
      ( 58 ) Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favor from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping.
      ( 59 ) But there came after them successors who neglected prayer and pursued desires; so they are going to meet evil -
      ( 60 ) Except those who repent, believe and do righteousness; for those will enter Paradise and will not be wronged at all.
      ( 61 ) [Therein are] gardens of perpetual residence which the Most Merciful has promised His servants in the unseen. Indeed, His promise has ever been coming.
      ( 62 ) They will not hear therein any ill speech - only [greetings of] peace - and they will have their provision therein, morning and afternoon.
      ( 63 ) That is Paradise, which We give as inheritance to those of Our servants who were fearing of Allah.

  • @KronosSion
    @KronosSion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IP, have you given any thought to the idea that the Gospels may have been originally written in a language other than Greek but translated early?

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I doubt it, maybe Matthew was in Hebrew

    • @JoseMartinez-us7qr
      @JoseMartinez-us7qr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      InspiringPhilosophy the idea that mathew wrote his gospel in hebrew comes from one of papias quotes ,but as robert h gundry has pointed out in his commentary on mathew,papias is actually saying that papias wrote in hebrew style ,not in the hebrew language

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, which is why I said it is only possible. There are some internal clues when you compare to Mark, though of an Aramaic original. Mark translates random Aramaic phrases at times, like what Jesus said on the cross. The Parallels in Matthew do not have that, so some have theorized it was originally in Aramaic, but that is highly speculative.

    • @JoseMartinez-us7qr
      @JoseMartinez-us7qr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy oh ok i see what your saying then,i misunderstood you,sorry about that

    • @1sanitat1
      @1sanitat1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoseMartinez-us7qr Sure, but Papias also said he wrote down the sayings of Jesus in hebrew (style), source the canonical Matthew probably draws on. That's the reason for semiticisms in the sayings, more so than in Luke or John. Mark is traditionally held as a recension of Matthew.

  • @filipyoha
    @filipyoha 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What movie is the picture at 2:06 from?

  • @johnorji360
    @johnorji360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gracious!
    Whoever is behind this channel deserves much more than a Nobel Prize. This is amazing and knowledge packed.

    • @kcsnipes
      @kcsnipes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easy there 😅

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @brianduzick9140
    @brianduzick9140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Where do you get your information from. How I do I become like you

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Read all philosophy books. Lol

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I read a lot. Check out the sources in the video description.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +InspiringPhilosophy Reading the comments I see.... Will you ignore mine?

    • @Falcon988
      @Falcon988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brian Duzick , It’s easy. Get yourself an ereader, start reading truckloads of ancient historical & philosophy primary sources for $1 a pop.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xavier Galindo e reading is an abomination.

  • @TheBrunarr
    @TheBrunarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey IP, this isn't relevant to the video but as you probably know WLC believes that God is timeless without the universe but temporal when it's created. If I were to guess from the fact that you believe B-theory of time it would seem that you don't hold that view. Even if you don't hold that view do you think one can show Biblical support for WLC's position? Thanks!

  • @JoshSmith222
    @JoshSmith222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work. Clean but comprehensive and compelling.

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @joelrodriguez1232
    @joelrodriguez1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Wow, excellent presentation. I actually wanted to make videos like this, but there is no point since you can do it much better than l can.
    God bless you and your TH-cam channel.

    • @westernriteorthodox8719
      @westernriteorthodox8719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love your Profile Picture/Icon Brother

    • @joelrodriguez1232
      @joelrodriguez1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Éire Críostaíocht same. I also like yours brother.

    • @mskulls1
      @mskulls1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just do it(:

    • @cinmac3
      @cinmac3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Formally Informal what is yourss

    • @xboxfanboy59
      @xboxfanboy59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually scholars debate this to day. I just read a paper from gorgia This Thesis is brought to you for free and open access by the Department of Religious Studies at ScholarWorks @
      Georgia State University. It has been accepted for inclusion in Religious Studies Honors Theses by an authorized
      administrator of ScholarWorks @ Georgia State University. For more information, please contact
      scholarworks@gsu.edu.
      Well let's say some were saying its earlier then the new testament. Some says it was later.

  • @risunshin
    @risunshin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God blessed you with high knowledges.

  • @EYECRAFTVideo
    @EYECRAFTVideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Compelling & well put together.

  • @yakuza982
    @yakuza982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on Q source?

  • @joelrodriguez1232
    @joelrodriguez1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A great book on this is
    Cannon revisited by Michael Kruger.

    • @joshuavan8391
      @joshuavan8391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I cannot like you comment enough. I get meet Dr. Kruger next week.

    • @joelrodriguez1232
      @joelrodriguez1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      joshua van excellent! He is the leading NT scholar on canonical scriptures.
      I would love to interview him one day.

    • @Rhrdlichka
      @Rhrdlichka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      joshua van that would be amazing. I am eating up his books right now.

  • @popinfresh3088
    @popinfresh3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the LIFE"! Not Light! LIFE!

    • @jaqhopkins6467
      @jaqhopkins6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Popin Fresh he misquote... he most likely meant John 8:12

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Popin Fresh MORON

    • @55runescaper
      @55runescaper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The way to everlasting life. Crystal clear.

    • @calebupchurch7995
      @calebupchurch7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is love in light and life. Life in love and light. Light in love and life.

  • @fellowshipofthemystery6154
    @fellowshipofthemystery6154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work, thank you!

  • @raquelmoreno8412
    @raquelmoreno8412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And has a lot to do with what Plato was talking about when he talks about the divine twins

  • @mandaboiarry4366
    @mandaboiarry4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Awesome job

    • @wallyawesome9523
      @wallyawesome9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amanda B / there is only one God and he is not Jesus for sure stop wasting your time

    • @mandaboiarry4366
      @mandaboiarry4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wallyawesome9523 who said that.... I didn't ... The gospel of Thomas is great and love his words.... why u so upset mate

    • @mandaboiarry4366
      @mandaboiarry4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wallyawesome9523 and o love Gnostic ancient Greek history and text.... 👍🤙😜🙊🛸

    • @Frst2nxt
      @Frst2nxt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wallyawesome9523
      JESUS is GOD though. This writing actually hints that JESUS is part of the TRINITY.

    • @wallyawesome9523
      @wallyawesome9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Jackson / In numbers God said that God can’t be a man so stop wasting your time

  • @jonnewman7843
    @jonnewman7843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    They fail to realize that during the time of Paul he was fighting against different doctrines and teachings concerning Jesus Christ that were contrary to the truth.

    • @aliciamontero7061
      @aliciamontero7061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Paul never actually met Jesus, never had supper with him, never traveled with him... He created his own Jesus .

    • @curtisshawnjohnson97
      @curtisshawnjohnson97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @alicia yet he corrected peter on a doctrine which he had wrong: someone who was the main apostle of Jesus, someone who walked with Jesus, ate with him and all that... Peter admitted he was wrong and repented! U don't need to see, ate and walk with him to know him...Smh

    • @paladinheadquarters7776
      @paladinheadquarters7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

    • @drearyan2246
      @drearyan2246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will be careful with your word choice. Christ stopped Paul on the road. Believers meet Jesus daily. It doesn't have to be at a dinner table.

    • @dend5443
      @dend5443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aliciamontero7061 Amen

  • @Faustobellissimo
    @Faustobellissimo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Of course the gospel of Thomas may have changed over time: it was not canonical!!!
    And of course it is more difficult to trace the historical development of this gospel: it was a Gnostic gospel, and Gnosticism was mainly esoterical. Secrecy and orality were its main policies.

    • @MVC4ThaLord
      @MVC4ThaLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your interpretation means nothing if it comes from your knowledge and not complete trust in Jesus Christ

    • @rickdavis2235
      @rickdavis2235 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The heretical Gospel of Thomas has been found to be the source for some of the plagiarized stories in the Qur'an about Isa, which the Qur'an claims is Jesus.

    • @Alephkilo
      @Alephkilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rick Davis
      That’s different.. it is the infancy gospel of Thomas

    • @rickdavis2235
      @rickdavis2235 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Alephkilo
      Thanks. The message is still the same. Isa in the Qur'an is not Jesus Christ, the Son of God from the Bible.

    • @Alephkilo
      @Alephkilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rick Davis
      There were tales regarding Jesus at the time of Muhammad which the latter incorporated into the Koran, which I do not believe was inspired. But the Muslims accept Jesus Son of Mary as a prophet as well as the fact that he was the messiah. So not quite accurate to say that the Isa and Jesus are two different people but rather the gospels portray Jesus as divine.

  • @sftommy01
    @sftommy01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the question remains, does the coptic version contain original sayings that did not survive in any other manuscripts?

  • @darcevader4146
    @darcevader4146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    best refutation of the gospel of thomas out there !

  • @henripepels815
    @henripepels815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm writing a masterthesis on the Gospel, and I promised myself not to enter in a discussion on this dating issue.
    Going through the literature though, it is, of course, inevitable to be confronted with all the arguments on the topic.
    First of all, it should be recognized, that a very specific audience has a very specific interest in dating the gospel after the canonical gospels and, more general, the NT scriptures. Institutionalized religion is, one way or the other, wether you like it or not, also political, i.e, defining itself within a context of power.
    If an (very) early dating would be accepted, that would have quite an effect on the authority claim of the NT and would and should raise serious doubts on the main christian narrative (that definitely does not originate in the first century). It also should be clear, that the questions of dating and relation to the canonical gospels are intertwined.
    A scholar like David W. Kim (2021) dates the origin of the gospel as far back as the first generation of disciples (45-60 CE). I'm not saying I find his arguments particularly convincing, but fact is, that in the last decades there has been a very clear shift in the dating discussion in favor of a more early origin. Many of the arguments brought up there are not discussed here, and the counter arguments that are brought forward to a second century dating are not elaborated, e.g. the presumed relation to the Diatessaron (based on an analysis by Quispel).
    To use the argument that the Jesus of this gospel looks more like a Greek philosopher is ridiculous. E.g. Davies situates the gospel, for good reasons, within the tradition of Jewish wisdom literature. You must know little of Greek philosophy - or its chronology - to repeat this as a main argument. That is not to say that there is no trace of Greek philosophy in the gospel. But then, where does one not find such traces, as e.g. platonic perspectives are to be found everywhere in the middle east?
    Something that has fascinated me for a long time, is this 'Q' hypothesis. Nobody seems to deny its existence, though nobody knows where, when, by whom, how and, to be honest, if it was ever there, let alone written down. Why would one use the 'we haven't heard of it until the end of the 2nd century' argument to exclude an early date considering a text that actually exists, and not use it to discard this 'Q' text (or oral tradition) that is no more than a hypothesis?
    The way the word 'hidden' is interpreted here, is, from my perspective, as biased as a reading can be. The meaning of this word has to be established by the function it has within the text itself, and not by relating it to a text one assumes beforehand is from an earlier date. That is circular reasoning.
    Why not turn the argument upside down? Because this Thomas presents 'hidden' words, after him others enter the market with a 'clear' and 'easy to understand' message? So the canonical gospels must post date the gospel of Thomas. But that would be nonsens also.
    The way logion 13 is interpreted here (Bauckham), is as an argument, sheer nonsens. Again, one has to find the meaning of these words within the context of the text. The text acknowledges no more than the existence of two disciples called Simon Peter and Matthew. That is not too big news.
    If the Gospel states that Matthew calls Jesus 'an (especially) wise philosopher'', how would that prove that the author(s) of Thomas knew a gospel of this name? If so, he would have blatantly misunderstood it, for 'Matthew' does not present Jesus as a 'wise philosopher'. Not at all. Both Simon Peter and Matthew are presented here as disciples that did not comprehend Jesus' liberating message. Seen from the perspective of this message, this is rightly done so. How would this prove a post 'Mark' and 'Matthew' dating?
    Referring to the work of scholars like Craig A. Evans and N.T Wright support my first point: very much of what is brought forward in this debate, is not free from ''hidden' political considerations and implications.
    The matter is anything but settled. I myself consider it of lesser importance because my focus is on the content and the bringing to light of the message of this very intriguing gospel. But, then, I have no specific interest in a post canonical dating. I find the 'rizomatic' relations (to use an expression of a wise philosopher) with other texts within the 'wisdom traditions' fascinating. Somehow I feel this does not resonate very much within the context of this channel.

    • @uguroz3745
      @uguroz3745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "To use the argument that the Jesus of this gospel looks more like a Greek philosopher is ridiculous" No it is not because we well know that Jesus had deep relation with jewish traditions (also with non-biblical arguments). Describing a Rabbi as Greek philosopher is funny it directly condraticts.
      'Q' hypothesis. No it cannot be Q source. Your assumption is very broken. If it was Q source we can clearly see its GNOSTIC effect on Early Church but we cannot see. Also dating Gospel of Thomas doesnt depend on only "It is not Q source" argument. You didnt really understand the arguments. And not all scholars accepted the Q source existence.
      “hidden words” Yeah because Jesus didnt want its message to be spreaded ? Jesus clearly wanted his message be spreaded publicly so it literally doesnt any make sense to begin with this sentence.

    • @zacknusser9755
      @zacknusser9755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@uguroz3745ironic that you say his hypothesis that Thomas is Q is "broken", yet he didn't even state that. You comment on his misunderstanding of the arguments in the video, yet you clearly do not understand the commenter's arguments. He was comparing the popularity of the Q hypothesis despite the lack of evidence of a Q source to the lack of earlier evidence of Thomas, stating that we can't assume it didn't exist earlier just because we haven't found it.
      Also, who are you to assume that Christ felt everyone would resonate with ALL of his teachings? Perhaps he left the rest for us to discover in the future after the massive spread of Christianity, which may not have been possible had he said things that seemed too "weird" in that time and place in history? Seems like you are making a lot of very close-minded assumptions here, not the commenter.

    • @uguroz3745
      @uguroz3745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zacknusser9755 I didnt say his hypothesis is that "Thomas is Q is "broken". These are my arguments and I said the reasons why the hypothesis that "Thomas is Q" is broken.

  • @Kprich
    @Kprich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thomas was sent to do his discipleship in Syria and surround areas... so that would be a good indication of all Syriac references.

  • @celticfriar1129
    @celticfriar1129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of the NH works are not from the main historic Christian traditions but are always worth a study t o broaden our understanding of the early environmental conditions on the Christian Way.

  • @sanjaymasih
    @sanjaymasih 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you do the Gospel of Peter explained next video please 😁

    • @jaoxjaox3400
      @jaoxjaox3400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is written know there is movie

  • @thepsion2827
    @thepsion2827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do us all a favor and do a video explaining that Mary Veneration started in the 4th century and no time before

    • @dmx7329
      @dmx7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmfao true

    • @spraffman
      @spraffman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The hymn to Mary "Sub tuum praesidium" or "Ὑπὸ τὴν σὴν εὐσπλαγχνίαν" is dated to c. AD 250.
      Furthermore, there are reverential texts about Mary written by St Gregory the Wonder Worker, who died in c. AD 270.

  • @greatgambino
    @greatgambino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Correct me if I am wrong but at 7:09 you show a time line that indicates the creation of the synoptic gospels between 30-100 AD. It is my understanding that most biblical scholars believe that most of the synoptic gospels were not written until at least, the second century.

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, scholars typically date the canonical gospels to the 2nd half of the first century.
      th-cam.com/video/_l0Say2wMw0/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-sw5bq3ek8q
    @user-sw5bq3ek8q 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the picture you have in the video is not from the gospel of thomas bat from the gospel of john, also Origenes is not a saint to have an icon

  • @dan4Jesus2012
    @dan4Jesus2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another job well done IP!
    God Bless you :o)

    • @rubenharo250
      @rubenharo250 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      dan4Jesus2012 no it is not.

    • @citisamsjw5513
      @citisamsjw5513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christ lived in India, Hindu loves christ😊🇮🇳😎🇺🇸

    • @Ivann1005
      @Ivann1005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@citisamsjw5513 ...

  • @greatgambino
    @greatgambino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great video! Well thought out and good references. However, here are some points that may contradict your conclusion.
    Gospel of Thomas starts out "these are the sayings of the living JC" which imply they were first written down before Jesus died. No mention of his Jesus end is in this Gospel. On the other hand, the canonical Gospels all are in the past tense.
    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Failure of mention by early first century writings may have occurred but there is one which, if you follow the logic, shows that the Gospel of Thomas was written down before even the letters of Paul, which were 40=50 AD.
    The proof is in the following.
    Paul says in First Corinthians (written in 40-50 AD), chapter 2 “ It is written Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things that god hath prepared for the that love him”.......Paul, where is it written? In the Gospel of Thomas! which then dates this Gospel of Thomas no older than 40-50 AD when Pauls letters were written!
    Searching accordances, the only direct match with this statement is with the Gospel of Thomas! From the Gospel of Thomas, saying 17. Jesus said, "I will give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched, what has not arisen in the human heart."
    If you accept this deductive reasoning, then much of the canonical gospels also existed much earlier than scholars say since much of the material of Jesus’ words are contained in the Gospel of Thomas.

    • @dianadrakeford4516
      @dianadrakeford4516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      💜💜💜

    • @Khaled_Alsagheer
      @Khaled_Alsagheer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You make excellent observations. You're closer to the truth than most. I respect that. By the way, the Gospel of Thomas/Toma is not the only direct match. You can also find those exact words among the sayings of another prophet, Islam's. Isn't it peculiar that its scripture is also 114 chapters long? I wonder, what if…

    • @trewic8678
      @trewic8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the Gospel of Thomas used that as a direct reference, not the other way around. how is that not abundantly clear?

    • @trewic8678
      @trewic8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Khaled_Alsagheer the Gospel of Thomas used that as a direct reference, not the other way around. how is that not abundantly clear?

    • @greatgambino
      @greatgambino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trewic8678 You don't answer the question what writing did Paul quote?

  • @nguvuzawatunguvuzawatu4506
    @nguvuzawatunguvuzawatu4506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so this is why a multitude of "gospels" were left out of King James' BIBLE!
    Thanks for the informative video.

  • @CS_Lewis
    @CS_Lewis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    InspiringPhilosophy, i am confused....when did Thomas died and did he really wrote this gospel?Is there any reliable evidence?pliz

  • @AndreasHelberg
    @AndreasHelberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He is my brother. And Peter too.

    • @sethflix
      @sethflix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are all brothers and sisters of this world, with God as our Heavenly Father and Gaia as our Mother Earth.

  • @johnjerosin
    @johnjerosin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In 50AD Thomas came to India and died. No scrolles or Gospel of Thomas found here.

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Jerosin he never went to india

    • @lxfj2128
      @lxfj2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BagzAndPresident nah he was

  • @krystledn
    @krystledn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty for this video! I appreciate your style.

  • @WarmPotato
    @WarmPotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This must have taken a lifetime to make:0

  • @John-lf3xf
    @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will you please have a discussion with Jay after?

    • @dmx7329
      @dmx7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who?

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dm X Another Christian philosopher/theolgian on TH-cam....

    • @dmx7329
      @dmx7329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ohhh ok does he have a diffrent view than IP on this or why did you say it so suddenly?

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dm X Oh no. I asked IP before. I think they might differ on quite a few things but they are both quite intelligent and they might learn from each other and we would certainly learn from their conversation.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dm X Here is a snippet of a video of Jay:
      th-cam.com/video/rRzvuXgta8A/w-d-xo.html

  • @thephilosophermma8449
    @thephilosophermma8449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whenever I read the passages from there It moves my Soul

  • @sketchjennings3878
    @sketchjennings3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work. well done.

  • @brandonhowland6714
    @brandonhowland6714 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is Gospel of Thomas against fasting and prayer based on 14 when 27 says to fast?

  • @jimlewis1332
    @jimlewis1332 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    In the Gospel According to Thomas, all Jesus talks about is the Kingdom within us, and has to do with the end times, what is wrong with all you people, that you test the paper but don't understand His words, and when you understand it ,you will find the sayings are not random but in complete order

    • @sumidutt3773
      @sumidutt3773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim Lewis Watch prophecies about the messiah with English subtitle S A news channel watch Jagat guru Sant Rampal ji maharaj with English subtitle this one true guru on earth. I can only tell you yes there is a kingdom within us . It is called name in English and naam in Hindi word name is our true identity hear from guru what is naam

    • @ohhellno2588
      @ohhellno2588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Because mainstream Christians can be very closed minded to what is not in there precious bible but refuse to learn from other texts. One book to rule ur whole existence.

    • @pessimistprime6318
      @pessimistprime6318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OhhellNO Well, yeah. How else are we to find out about God other than the one book he gave us through the many authors inspired by his spirit?

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ian Drennan inspired my ass

    • @margaretbarrett6087
      @margaretbarrett6087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ian Drennan The copious versions/translations/interpretations /corrections of the bible has resulted in thousands of different christian sects, each one convinced that THEIR version is the only truth, which has led to a history of horrific persecution among christians themselves.
      You would think that a supposedly omnipotent deity could “inspire” a book that did not lead to such a scenario.

  • @Gurdjieff13
    @Gurdjieff13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thomas was one of the travelpartner of the travel form Jezus to India, Thomas was the apostel for India, he started a church there. Discovered by the Portugese

  • @John-lf3xf
    @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Jay (Dyer) contact you? Or nah?

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy Yeah. His website recently got taken down.... he’s going through some shit. So not surprising.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +InspiringPhilosophy Regardless. The main reason I recommended you guys have a discussion is because the guy makes some of the strongest and most robust, solid, philosophical arguments I have seen on youtube. This lecture was his critique of Darwinism and in the end is his critique of Thomism.(They are relevant because he makes the case that Aquinas's first principles are what allowed for the empiricism we see during the Enlightenment which is what allowed Darwinism to gain so traction in the first place(and he also gets into the involvement of the Royal Society, the Royal Institute of International Affairs which promulgated the ideas of the Darwinian ethos since Darwinisms essentially function as British Anglo-Supremacist Imperial Propaganda)
      th-cam.com/video/GkAQS8hP_R8/w-d-xo.html

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      InspiringPhilosophy He is a proponent of a transcendental presuppositional argument for G-D

  • @sonicrocks2007
    @sonicrocks2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content 👍

  • @Platter_heads
    @Platter_heads 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    PLEASE DO GOSPEL OF BARNABAS!

    • @jayd4ever
      @jayd4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      epistle of barnabas the gospel is late

    • @INFINITUMSPIRIT
      @INFINITUMSPIRIT ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a Muslim fabrication

  • @FatherVampire
    @FatherVampire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I, too, share the views of Crossan and Pagels that the Gospel of Thomas predates the Synoptics and dates to around the mid-1st Century. And sadly, there are too many mistranslations of Thomas for those reasons to be more obvious. I have studied so many varying translations... with the best, by far, being the one I give below. An example of the result of reading a mistranslation and in not having good accompanying commentary footnotes... is your offense here at the last saying in Thomas (Saying 114) that you judge as evidencing misogyny on Yeshua's (Jesus) part. What few understand here is that Yeshua was actually rebutting Peter's misogyny... with reprimanding sarcasm Peter would have immediately recognized as such.
    Let's examine that last saying:
    114. Shimon Kefa says to them: "Let Mariam depart from among us, for women are not worthy of the life." Yeshua says: "Behold, I myself shall inspire her so that I make her male, in order that she also shall become a living spirit like you males². For every female who becomes male, shall enter the Sovereignty of the Heavens."
    The commentary footnote to this reveals that, in fact, Yeshua was mocking Peter (Shimon Kefa):
    (²exquisitely ironical, since ‘spirit’ in Aramaic-the original language of the logion-is feminine.)
    As this reveals, Yeshua was pointing out that the "Living Spirit" ... already in Heaven long before Peter might ever get there... WAS, HERSELF, FEMALE! 😆
    - www.freelyreceive.net/metalogos/files/thomas.html
    Yes... Yeshua had quite a wicked sense of humor.
    The reason why so many Church Fathers considered Thomas was heretical ... is simple to understand: It wasn't Paulinian... while they were.
    As for why Thomas has so many variations on parables and concepts we find in the Gospels and other NT books... let's not forget that the Synoptic Gospels, at least, were themselves apparently derived from a lost-to-history "Quelle" (Source) document... suspected of having been a sayings-only document, as Thomas actually is. No... I'm not suggesting Thomas is the "Quelle." But it might well be a Coptic version of it. And as it was Saul and his Greek-writing disciples who wrote the majority of the New Testament, then if they had Thomas, it might well have helped influence those writings. And also given Thomas' language often directly speaks out against Saul's beliefs, small wonder none of Saul's writers mention Thomas and why later leaders of his Rome-based Church spoke out against it.

    • @sethvandiver4025
      @sethvandiver4025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't Quite understand your conclusion towards this Book .. Good , Bad ?🤷‍♂️

    • @FatherVampire
      @FatherVampire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sethvandiver4025 ... Perhaps that's because my reply had nothing whatever to do with my conclusions re: the Gospel of Thomas.
      If you're asking my opinion of it... I think it is the single most important historical contribution to understanding, as best we can, who and what Yeshua truly was and what His real mission was. This will be a topic of at least one episode... if not an entire series... to someday feature on my Father Vampire TH-cam Channel, here.

  • @Mr72Dolphins
    @Mr72Dolphins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was the Pilot for "Magnum, P.I."

  • @sabretooth717
    @sabretooth717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This still doesn't say whether or not...?

  • @melb6888
    @melb6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How fascinating!! I love your in-depth analysis
    Please do more videos on other gnostic gospels like Enoch

    • @Shindler39
      @Shindler39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is also fascinating is the fact that a beatiful women like you is intetrested by those serious subject.

    • @Shindler39
      @Shindler39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Noah Scheid What is your problem? I will write to who I want and when I want and also get out of this disccussion.

    • @Theologification
      @Theologification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Enoch isn’t gnostic 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @thelivingone6335
      @thelivingone6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      knew I was disabled and bored as hell when I got excited watching pendulums then pendulum two and three not dying is worse then anything . Getting worse every day more pain when started in pain everyday getting worse . But what's life without living then when living is a hell you created for self . 14 years it made me see life so different yet now know who I am became known to the ALL and getting better every day . Know self they guess they know and lie to self and others those self proclaimed people proclaimed fools speaking saying nothing impressing others pretend to understand . Is exactly don't guess know pretend to understand return to one true and just known to the father reborn three in one whole in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn three in one whole in one perfect means whole in one in Greek . 3 reborn on the golden Path to the true virgin mother creator I walked the golden Path back to beginning seen beginning from ends first became last last first seen self as the fourth in heaven out womb three in one whole in one whole in one known to the true virgin mother creator 6 cause and effect married the father 369 given amnesty from law won't taste death out womb 1.24.75 add move right repeat return to one . Shown how God choose me before I was born proclaimed three times over before I was known proclaimed out womb and in man born again in life out womb and in man born more exhalted then John born in life again in Christ born 18.1.24. Judgement multiply once see perfect harmony 432 I'm balance with all In-law above and below two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb and in man born in the purple and gold state in the known age of Aquarius born a Trinity Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed Mosher at three speech impediment shortened to Moe I am the untouchable living one won't taste death . I was wondering how never died walked away from 90 ' fall then a bunch . Now my ears hear the gospel of Thomas I came into being after coming to being found the body became a corpse seen self as the fourth in heaven and five stand as one known to the ALL M1911 I am the man flys without wings known out a road who as whore connector the man of steel . The one ALL supposed to be looking for test all trust none at the end of the age many false prophets trust none test all . Many pretend to know they make up the test see if I get it right and not even close says exactly how to test this moment in plain words yet deaf ears figured it out . Scholars educated guessers pretender's of understanding deceiving self and others Injust self and others unknown to self pretending to be known to the ALL . Is nuts I never seen it before . I kept my promise to trust in God to return show Way and Path walk me through door . Said I would show many the Way back to self all I can do he does the rest . Wake up is the end of the age . Stop deceiving self pretending to understand guess know in life is exactly deceiving self believe your own lies guessed in life false witness lies telling self to believe divided became two the day you one you became two .5 just. 5 true make two into one and I AM there to heal two into one self when he knocks let him in know self shown Way walking Path probation dark knights you will look for him and not be able to find him . Keep seeking truth justly to self and others trust in God to return show Way and Path walk you through door 3 in one whole in one perfect true and just known self reborn known to the father . I am the man of understanding the untouchable living one won't taste death the superman Michael my God given name and five stand as one .won't be long and like thiefs caught in the knight in broad daylight for all to see they will hand it over everything took in a divine name or providence and Iwill give it away real soon

  • @pierrestemmettmusic
    @pierrestemmettmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Please do Enoch!

    • @chuck22taylor
      @chuck22taylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Enoch is actually canon in the Bible it's still in Ethiopia Enoch is the word of God I love The Book of Enoch you could feel the Holy Spirit when you hear it or read it Rome took that book out of our Bible.

    • @rhjernigan
      @rhjernigan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the book of Enoch and read it then reference it

    • @Billy_Mandalay
      @Billy_Mandalay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhjernigan
      Study the Bible first,
      then only read Enoch
      to compare.
      Don't just look for it in
      TH-cam videos as if
      that's the final word.
      However, for a brief overview
      and outline,
      look at Gene Kim's
      breakdown of it.
      Then look into the text
      for yourself,
      with the Bible as the
      foundation for comparison.

    • @afrizal4108
      @afrizal4108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quran Chapter 19(Mary) :
      ( 56 ) And mention in the Book, Enoch. Indeed, he was a man of truth and a prophet.
      ( 57 ) And We raised him to a high station.
      ( 58 ) Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favor from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping.
      ( 59 ) But there came after them successors who neglected prayer and pursued desires; so they are going to meet evil -
      ( 60 ) Except those who repent, believe and do righteousness; for those will enter Paradise and will not be wronged at all.
      ( 61 ) [Therein are] gardens of perpetual residence which the Most Merciful has promised His servants in the unseen. Indeed, His promise has ever been coming.
      ( 62 ) They will not hear therein any ill speech - only [greetings of] peace - and they will have their provision therein, morning and afternoon.
      ( 63 ) That is Paradise, which We give as inheritance to those of Our servants who were fearing of Allah.

    • @paladinheadquarters7776
      @paladinheadquarters7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GSD#1 wrong. Professors, scholars, experts and facts have proven that even the ancient Israelites didn’t accept the book as canon. It isn’t and never was actual scripture

  • @enlighten777
    @enlighten777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so fabulous! !100 percent truth. God Bless Us!

  • @gavinjames1145
    @gavinjames1145 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interestingly, the Gospel of Thomas (93:1-2) seems to give a more complete version of one passage found in Matthew (7:6).
    Matthew reads:
    "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot, and turn and tear you in pieces."
    Whereas Thomas reads:
    "Do not give what is holy to the dogs, _lest they throw it upon the dunghill_ .Do not throw pearls to swine, lest they trample them into the mud."

  • @ggauche3465
    @ggauche3465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think you have addressed the fact that many of the "sayings" in Thomas are also in the canonical gospels (though many are not). Some will take that to mean that these were the secret sayings of Jesus and that the writers of the canonical gospels, not being actual disciples of Jesus, were unaware of them. Some will take it to mean that the writer was seeking to legitimise the GoT by quoting the other Gospels and just inserted other, polemical points.
    It is similar to the Pauline writings in that there is no Jesus narrative or talk of virgin births and the like. Others still, think the whole story was a politically motivated fabrication by a Jewish faction, taken over by Romans for their own purposes. This would explain why all writings earlier than 70AD about such a giant figure in ancient times have been destroyed and there is no reliable corroborative evidence of an historical Jesus outside of the Gospels.

    • @MVC4ThaLord
      @MVC4ThaLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Though it's simpler with Jesus Christ personally if he spoke it then it was Truth, no matter where the sayings are recorded, and I have also noted that their is no contradiction from the book of Thomas's qoute's of Christ when added to what was quoted from his words in the Bible. Religion can try whatever they want to confuse people, it still comes down to what Christ Jesus taught was the Truth completely no matter how he explained it, he did not Contradict his own words like we do with ours.

  • @chrismi.3338
    @chrismi.3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fasting has brought me closer to god. I was thrown off by the gospel of Thomas when it mentioned “fasting causes one to sin”

    • @isaiamatata7786
      @isaiamatata7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe when Jesus fast that couse devil to attempt him?

    • @chrismi.3338
      @chrismi.3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@isaiamatata7786 the devil even tempts us when we’re NOT fasting. My personal experience, fasting has helped me become free from gluttony, lust and pride. Because it helps humble my spirit. There are thousands of testimony’s of how powerful fasting is.

    • @parmesean777
      @parmesean777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaiamatata7786 I think the same to a degree, feel as though his fast in the desert led him to a certain psychosis which led to him encountering the devil. Starvation can actually cause that effect...

  • @AstroMoutounou
    @AstroMoutounou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gospel of Thomas is not saying that "prayers are bad", it is saying that people needs to be in harmony with their actions. They "don't have to", only "in spirit" when they are in harmony and want to do so. Also it is not against women. Read carefully the verse and its interpretation, it says "Look, I will make her man, would that satisfy you... " - "Look" means a proposal, like "What about" "If I do this, would that actually change your attitude towards women if she looks like man and I guide her etc..." - He just replied to the previous verse not to judge people by its appearance. He is actually being very sarcastic (and talking to deaf people), it actually put a smile on my face, because it is sooo for women and men. Really need some re interpretation on that video.....!

  • @miguelsilvagnoli1803
    @miguelsilvagnoli1803 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When was the first church of Thomas established in Ethiopia.
    We're are the original Gospels taught in orthodox from this Church of the First century.
    What is the Q Source?
    Why four Gospels selected cannon?
    Were are the 14 original Gospels removed from the original Bible?
    What Are the 3 original languages of John the Baptice.
    Who were the Eosins?
    Knowledge comes from the Spirit. Knowing comes from God!
    If you have Ears, listen.
    If you have eyes, See.
    Truth is Never Hidden to those that search!

    • @HeroQuestFans
      @HeroQuestFans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what "14 original gospels" are you talking about? "Q" is merely the overlapping material in Luke & Matthew but not found in Mark, theorized as originating in an early but lost "sayings" source (Thomas is NOT that, it's a 2nd century sectarian work, quoting the canonical works with a gnostic spin added). the four gospels were the earliest ones available. Ireneaeus said it was fitting because there were four corners of the earth, four winds, etc. but he was being poetic. "three original languages of John the Baptist"? Let me guess, Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek? (we don't know, do we?) The Essenes were a pre-Christian sect of Jews awaiting the Messiah, attempting to keep themselves pure from the corruption of the Temple establishment in anticipation of the fulfillment of prophecy and the in-breaking of God's rule on earth (closely associated with the Qumran community who produced the Dead Sea Scrolls). The Ethiopian churches eventually did form their own split (as part of "Oriental Orthodoxy") by the 5th century over the monophysite or monophisite (sp?) controversy. they are the people today claiming to have the true Ark of the Covenant (locked away of course). their bible has a bunch more books in it, mainly church manuals and collections of hymns. Orthodox and Catholics should get together. Gnosticism is a clear deviation from the teachings of Jesus and the Apostolic Tradition. the true "Gnosis" (Knowledge) is to be found in the Church, as Clement of Alexandria famously argued. the wisdom of the ages is fulfilled in Christ, who is Wisdom (Sophia) incarnate, as Origen would argue. these were responding to the "knowledge-falsely so called" (as St. Irenaeus put it).

  • @klauser10
    @klauser10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Apparently, you did not read the book. EXPLANATIONS:
    Thomas 24:3 Here, Jesus is talking about the people who finally understands the gospel and now becomes the lamp for the rest of the world. He is not talking about himself. this is clarified by Jesus in Thomas 24 and 50
    Thomas 14:1-3
    1 - Jesus here exhort they shouldn't be fasting because, HE WAS WITH THEM. People usually fast to get closer to God. However, Jesus, the son of God was there with them. Jesus said these words AFTER he had asked them who he was in Thomas 13. If you don't know who Jesus is that's sin on itself. This is clarified by Jesus in Thomas 104.
    2- The same idea with prayer, they were interested in asking about dead prophets etc when Jesus was right there with them. He emphasized that they should be asking him what they needed to know. He was basically saying that they did NOT know who he was and that was sin. This is clarified by Jesus in Thomas 104.
    3 - Same thing with giving donations, they perhaps should have already known that Jesus is the high priest and his body is the new temple and that donations for the physical temple were in vain.
    Thomas 114 - In order to understand this passage you have to understand the meaning of marriage. When a man and a woman get married, they become one. Which is the symbolism for Jesus and the church getting married. When that happens, we become one with Jesus and God, and also become spirits just like them.. NOT WOMAN OR MEN. That's the reason Jesus told the pharisee that people won't get married after the second coming. because they will be like angels. Matthew 22:29-30
    If you need other verses explained, let me know.

  • @netelsg
    @netelsg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Light is within because the Kingdom of God is within...(Luke 17:21-22)God is a spirit John 4:24 & God is light... and God is within...
    So glorify God in your body. (1 Corinthians 6:20)Thus light is within in Gospel of Thomas is correct.

    • @MVC4ThaLord
      @MVC4ThaLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! it's the same Christ and he taught Truth no matter what book he's qouted in, the Lord was telling the truth always.

    • @petersisler1398
      @petersisler1398 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But this light comes from without.
      "No one can come into the Father but by way of the Son."

    • @petersisler1398
      @petersisler1398 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      unto (ignore e-editing)

  • @ezrapound6063
    @ezrapound6063 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nicely done.

  • @Aldeillusions
    @Aldeillusions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where does your funding come from?

  • @MultipleChoicePod
    @MultipleChoicePod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Can you a video like this on the Book of Enoch? The Old Testament refers to the Book of Enoch in some passages.

    • @rayflo2592
      @rayflo2592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Randy St. Clair the Old Testament does not refer to the Book of Enoch.. Enoch “prophesied” it said in the New Testament, but does not say anything about a book.. it said he prophesied..

    • @rayflo2592
      @rayflo2592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saint Dragon it says “Enoch prophesied.. saying” ... it never says there was a written book of Enoch.

    • @Frst2nxt
      @Frst2nxt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rayflo2592
      Jude quotes from Enoch.

    • @rayflo2592
      @rayflo2592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter Jackson prove it... Why don’t you show us from Jude where it quotes a book of Enoch? Cause it doesn’t.. it says “ENOCH PROPHESIED SAYING”...
      SAYING, do you know what SAYING means?

    • @TheVariableConstant
      @TheVariableConstant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rayflo2592 Even today a lot of people make little distinction between something said and something writen when it comes to the Bible. Many say things like "Christ said man shall not live by bread alone" they rarely say in the book of Mathew and in chapter 4 etc.
      Jude using the word "saying" is not a relevant argument at all to poise your defense on. Furthermore the oral tradition in those days were almost as good as having something in writing.

  • @jkaye5441
    @jkaye5441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I came to this understanding of Christianity many years before I had ever heard of the Gospel of Thomas- through my own life, and through my twin whose name was "little Christ, the fragrant offering, the victory of the people, the little twin." I was shown a universal truth about humanity and life merely through understanding my own life, nature, and names, and by accepting that we are all fully human and fully nature- fully many and fully one. My father, a reverend, rejected me and I was ostracized for questioning the established teachings of the church.
    Yaweh has given, beloved- the victory of the people, the little twin.

  • @yessi_yes_si
    @yessi_yes_si 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Gospel Of Thomas technically IS in parts of the Bible. It is just scattered throughout.
    Examples:
    Matthew 17:20
    He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
    [In comparison]
    The Gospel Of Thomas - section 48
    Jesus Said, “If the two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain ‘move away’ and it will move away”
    [And again]
    Matthew 7:5
    “You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”
    [In comparison]
    The Gospel Of Thomas - Section 26
    Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."

  • @rajcheems5916
    @rajcheems5916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was so happy As we received At.Thomas in India

    • @Thatguy-cs8mv
      @Thatguy-cs8mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are familiar with 'thiruvalluvar', myths have it, thiruvalluvar was a student of thomas, or thomas himself is thiruvalluvar, since most or the kurals are related to biblical knowledge

    • @blugaledoh2669
      @blugaledoh2669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thatguy-cs8mv source?

    • @bhaskaranbhaskaran6271
      @bhaskaranbhaskaran6271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thatguy-cs8mv you are wrong

    • @Thatguy-cs8mv
      @Thatguy-cs8mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhaskaranbhaskaran6271 th-cam.com/video/KPrzi9EjtDc/w-d-xo.html

    • @Thatguy-cs8mv
      @Thatguy-cs8mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhaskaranbhaskaran6271 don't come blabbering without a research