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I’ve been riding for just over 54 years. I now have 2019 Can-Am Spyder RTL primarily because my wife is petrified of two wheels and I can barely get her off the three. For most riders wanting/needing to make the jump, I’d suggest the Can-Am F3 series. They’re much easier in every way and the rider sits lower in the seat with a more controls forward riding position. Former Harley riders seem to gravitate toward these, plus the added swagger is fun. The RTL took a good while, approximately 6000 miles before I was feeling comfortable and few thousand more before I became one with the machine. Most people give up before that and most RTL owners are clueless as to what it is they own. Riding solo in the mountains I got caught up in a derecho and the Can-Am handled it remarkably well. I was able to stay just ahead of the worst of it finding enclosed shelter before all hell broke loose. Another time, riding two up in the mountains we rounded a long sweeping turn straight into a squall. It was as if two separate realities slammed into each other. The short of it is we turned tail, no available shelter for 23 miles, flashers running, visibility about 50-75 feet, maintained 45-50 mph in rainwater covering my rims and rising, automobiles flying past us, freezing and soaked to the bone, compartmentalizing every perception, we made it safely to a small gas station and waited it out. The only harm to the machine was that the high water stripped the wheel balancing weights which my dealership replaced for free. I drive mine like I stole it. Very few bikes, or riders can stay with me through the turns and twisties. Dialed in, plus a Pedal Box, trail braking and accelerating simultaneously is a wicked foe for the twofers. I make it a point to use a different technique and/or a different combination of techniques on every maneuver; be it a turn, twist, curve or lane adjustment without repeating on every ride. These are, if you can imagine, a perfect blending of motorcycle and Go-Kart.
I want to try a tilt a motor conversion. The guy that invented it was spot on. Expensive as hell but I believe it’s the solution all trike companies will eventually go to.
I have over 40 years on bikes, and 10 of them on the Can-Am Spyder RT. The Reverse trikes are much more stable then the traditional trike during normal operation. I feel VERY secure on the Can-AM, and the adjustment to it from 2 wheels bikes was very quick. One thing to remember that was not mentioned here is tire paths. A car has 2 tire paths, a motorcycle has 1. These trikes, if they are traditional or reverse styles, have 3 tire paths. This makes the skills at missing objects in the road much more difficult then any other vehicle. With my can-am, I have less than 8 inches to the inside of each front tires to clear an object in the road from hitting the front or rear wheels. This does take some getting used too, especially when quickly coming upon the object. Also, all motorcycle classes instruct you to avoid the very center of a travel lane as that is where the "Oil Path" is from most cars and in even slightly wet conditions make that middle of the road very slick. Most reverse trikes are powered by the single rear wheel, putting your traction wheel directly in this potentially low traction area.
Thanks for sharing that. I never attended a motorcycle class but have been riding solely 2 wheelers for 33 years yet never discovered that Oil Path. I'll look out for it now.
I have a trik, it has a independent suspension making it so smooth. But the guy that I bought it from got a can-am for the way it sets it relived the pain in his hips due to arthritis. The set and ride definitely .each rider need salic what beast for them. Lucky for me I love it.
I was in a rush on my last comment so I wanted to come back and share my experiences from owning a Ryker 900 for a year. I came from a Harley 48 to the Ryker after I had a very minor accident with my daughter on the back (gravel, hadderlayerdown, etc.). Wife insisted I get rid of the Harley and I bought the Ryker as a compromise. I love the look of the Ryker, it has a nice "cruiser like" riding position and it definitely gets attention wherever you go. I got the passenger seat, 2 Up Spring, and some other cosmetic upgrades. All in I paid right at 15k for it. It was wonderful riding around town and any sort of backroads. The only issue I had where I was a little concerned was on the interstate. It "can" go over 70 but it feels very squirrely and I highly recommend buying the swaybar upgrade for it. Also the factory lights are just plain awful at night so you are going to need to get LED lights for it. The 2Up spring is a waste of money if you are a heavier person (over 250 pounds) and want to have a passenger. You would need to get some aftermarket shocks. Many people complain about the seats on the Ryker's, I thought they were fine. You see where I am going with this, the price point on the front end is attractive but the necessary upgrades you are looking at a few grand more to get it to something that is comparable to a decent ride. Finally, some of the things you love about riding a motorcycle just aren't there in a Ryker. The motor sounds horrible, even with aftermarket exhaust. There's no gear shifts, no clutch, and you cant even rev it if you want to. A Ryker is a great option for someone with disabilities that wants to ride. After you invest all that money to make it a decent ride you are slipping into Spyder territory. I sold the Ryker after a year because it just wasn't as fun as the Harley. I am looking at a Spyder FR-S but at 24k base price I am going to be waiting for a while and trying to find a decent used one. I still want a V-Twin "Harley" version of the Spyder/Ryker I think there is a market for those if a manufacturer would give it a shot. The Harley trikes just look like oversized senior mobility chairs to me.
There is a company in Wisconsin called Endeavor trikes that will turn your bike into a reverse trike. If I had the funds, I would get a newer Goldwind done. Dream machine! 👍
I had a rt limited spyder and Freewheeler at the same time because I didn't know what I'd like better, I sold the spyder, the Freewheeler win hands down and after a few times you can do everything you could on the spyder
I've been riding for a long time and have owned a variety of motorcycles. The first time I rode a Can Am Spyder I thought, where have you been all my life?
I've been riding for almost 60 years. The last 18 years on a Honda Valkyrie motorcycle. My wife kept pushing me to get a Can-Am after she road with a friend who had one. She felt more comfortable and secure with three wheels. Finally purchased one and it does take some getting used to the turning simply because it feels different. That said, it didn't take long. The other issue is the shifting, which is accomplished via your left thumb and doesn't require you to lower the rpms as you shift. It downshifts on its own as you slow down. I do love the ability to store two full face helmets in the Spyder RT and all the additional storage compared to the bags on my Valk. The Can-Am feels more stable with two wheels in front compared to two wheels in the back. Anyone who's ever seen a tricycle tip over can attest to that. Also this configuration definitely smooths out the railroad tracks and bumps. Looks like it's Can-Am from here on out.
Everyone has to be comfortable riding whatever they choose. That said, on our mountain roads we are frequently waiting for regular trikes (and a lot of 2 wheelers) to get our of our way as we zip by on our Can Am F3's.
I had both a Can-am spyder and Harley Freewheeler. I wanted to see what I liked better. I sold the spyder because after a few mods on the Harley, it's wonderful and looks better in my humble opinion
It depends on what one likes. I just don’t like the look of the CanAm. That’s my choice. I like the sound of a Harley Trike compared to a CanAm with a snowmobile motor.
Another clarification. Reverse trike that you ride inside is a Auto Cycle, drive it like a car. If you can fall off its just a trike or reverse trike. A autocycle can have protection like roll bars and seatbelts even a roof.
I wish I could like the looks of a reverse trike, I've got good friends that ride them. But since I grew up on a Honda 70 ATC, and then a 110 Honda ATC (both 3 wheelers with the one tire in the front) as a preteen kid in the 70s, it's probably the reason I love the traditional trike (single wheel in front). As long as it's fun y'all, RIDE WHAT YA WANT, GOD BLESS Y'ALL🤠🙏
I built The Magnum trike . Traction was comparable to a Honda accord , pulled about the same G force before loosing grip on the back wheel . Center of gravity was extremely low There was absolutely no sign of flipping it . The acceleration was equal to a corvette . Top speed was around 145 mph . Stopping on wet surface could be challenging
I found it hilarious when Harley started selling three wheelers in the showroom. Up until that they adamantly maintained that such things as after market attachments to their bikes were inherently dangerous. Those after market rigs were the blueprint for their own conversion. My only problem with the Can Am came when Florida decided testing on those got you a license for 'all' motorcycles as the way they behave is SO different from two wheelers.
Well my biggest problem with oem harley trikes is the suspension. The Harley oem trikes have solid suspension while MOST after market have independent suspension suspension. Which is a Game changer
I am almost 65 and looking for a trike. My brothers are HD riders for years. I've never ridden a two wheel bike and will not try it at this age. I love the look and quality of a HD trike and have heard and watch many videos about the reverse trike, like Can Am. One thing it is not mentioned is the type of crowd that rides can am vs HD and also de resale value of a Can Am vs that of a HD trike. Share your thoughts. Happy trails.
The reverse trike is by far better than the Backwheel trikes the reverse trike is built around steering and handling. A backwheel triangles poorly and ride very harsh. I appreciate you using my personal endeavor trike in this video along with other information
I believe the Harley takes are by far the easiest to get fixed. In North East Ohio. We have way more experienced Harley mechanics than can am dealership. I have owned a gold wing csc trike for 10 years and l am lucky to have a repair shop locally. She's been paid for so I probably won't be buying another. If I did it would be a factory built Harley Davison. I like the freewheel. I have demo rode them all over the years. Just my opinion
Rode 2 wheel till could no longer at 80. Now own reverse trike, Can Am. Only issue , in hard turn, without arm rests in back a driver could throw a passenger off as bike has so much stability.
Not all backwards trikes have the extra wide front, they have a granny program that applies the brakes and doesn't allow you to accelerate in curves.....the reason being is the chance of flipping.......rear wheels you don't want to apply brakes in curve due to chance of flipping, however accelerating in curves is good The leaning trikes are whole different critters Those trikes you showed on the beach were not touring machines you were talking about I would not recommend front wheels trike.....however with the brake problems of Harley trikes I would have to recommend the Honda And again the leaning trikes are a different critter.....I haven't rode one but I sure want to
Problem with reverse trikes in US is we are pretty much limited to Can Am. I like Rykers and Spyders but I really want a Vtwin and a clutch like a reg Harley trike would have. Rykers ans Spyders are like Power Wheels for grown ups. Twist throttle and go.
I think the ”revers trike” is called a tadpole trike. And the ”trike” is called a delta trike. Also you had pictures of tadpole trikes with and without leaning system and you didn't meantion it. Even if it does make a drastic difference in how the bike is steered.
I have ridden both. If I were going to go the trike route, I would go with the Can-Am over a traditional trike. Having said that, I'm not a fan of vehicles with an odd number of wheels so I probably wouldn't buy one either way. I also disagree with a number of the statements made at the beginning of this video referencing the differences between trikes vs motorcycles.
You can ride them fast even in turns... they are so stable. You have to plant your opposite side foot hard on the peg and lean your body over to counter as you turn hard. I've gone through twisties easily leaving all the sports bikes in my dust while they are dragging knees lol. I think the Harley I road would have flipped even trying it.
As owners of both, the Original trike easily flips and falls over and is UNSTABLE. Many deaths have occurred from the instability on the Original trike. The reverse trike is VERY STABLE. The only real difference, other than bias and prejudice from bike owners, is in the turning. With 2 wheels you lean into the turn. With the reverse trike you do not lean. You simply turn the wheel. Handles more like a wet bike. You do not lean over on a wet bike. It also handles like a Harley with a side car. You do not lean a Harley with a side car. You just turn the wheel.
You failed to mention the market leader in reverse trikes, Can-Am. Spyder has power assisted steering, traction control, so hands down winner. And far more stable than trikes.
AT 3:36 in this video you show a reverse trike which is an Endeavor Trike from Minnesota. This is a patented process and more than likely you did not get permission to show this motorcycle in the video. It is the personal trike of the inventor.
Sold Harley 2015 street glide special got can am rt limited I can ride it all day not get saddle sore so much more comfortable u just gota slow down in corners ride the inside love mine
The harley trikes are usually ridden by old timers that can't hold up a heavy bike anymore and the spyders are usually ridden by 50 year old women and others who are afraid of motorcycles. Harley trikes usually still get respect while the Spyders are generally looked down upon by bikers.
Not correct that a 2 wheel is harder to handle than a 3 wheel. Fully loaded Goldwing with passenger is way easier to ride than a Can Am or regular trike and from my experience if no health issues safer. Had a Goldwing and went to a Can Am after 2 knee replacements and can say the Can Am is a upper body workout in the twisties, not so with a Goldwing.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your personal comparison between the Goldwing and the Can Am. It's always great to hear from someone with firsthand experience.
Sorry but I had to give your video a thumbs down. You did a great job on explaining everything EXCEPT ONE VITAL FACTOR. The Can Am Ryker. Brand new from the dealer is just a little over $8,000. Then add the fact that Can Am (BRP) is a global company. Almost anyone can get a Ryker with very little hassle. The maintenance is easy enough the Ryker Lady Riders are doing much of it themselves!!! (See Ryker Rydes for all her amazing tutorials!!) So all that throws the reverse trike into a “perfect score” with that included. Therefore I couldn’t give this video a thumbs up because not only was a big part of the information missing, but the Ryker had been available since 2019. How could you have missed it in your research???
Trikes are difficult on turns ,must slow down into turn's, Data of crashes! Can't use front brakes more than 25 percent and 75 percent in rear! Using front brake total will snap your handle bar of the direction of that turn! 😧 And it's worst with trike conversations because front end not raked for conversion,so you have double the force into turn's , bottom line try both! If no good,time quit riding and be safe ,both are a learning experience curve!
Youn say you do not have to put forth any effort to ride a trike. I disagree. On a two wheeled motorcycle all you have to do is lean while on a trike it is all about steering and it is a hard steer. My wife and I have traveled more than 300,000 miles on two wheeled motorcycles but due to health issues we had to go to a trike. You get exhausted no matter if the machine has two wheels or three, there is no difference. The vibrations and the wind wears you out. I've never had any trouible riding double and carring a tent, sleeping bag, air mattress, and clothes on a long trip with a two wheeled motorcycle. It is an easy ride if you are going on a trip because usually on a trip it is highway riding.How do figure that you get a better view of the traffic, the view is exactly the same on my TriGlide as it was on my two wheeled motorcycles? Your explanation of braking on a reverse trike is hog wash. You have three wheels braking no matter if it is a normal trike or a reverse trike, Therefore one is not better than the other. I went to a trike after my wife, who always rides with me battled cancer eight times. She had 12 surgeries in ten years, maxed out on chemo, radiation and cyber knife treatments. She is currently on immnotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. When the cancer in her brain caused seizures we went to the trike. Our thoughts were if she had a seizure on a two wheeled machine it might cause an acciident injuring both of us and maybe others. On the trike we feel I should be able to pull over and tend to her needs. We test drove a CamAm Spyder and both of us HATED the way it handled. The Gold Wing trike felt like a bicycle with training wheels bobbing from side to side. I fought the idea of a trike as long as I could, but my wife insisted.So we test drove a Harley and it drove great and that's what we bought. We are now on our second Harley Davidson Tri Glide.
Your complaint about the effort needed to steer a trike is a good reason why you should have gone Can Am, the spyders have power assist so require much less effort to steer, still more than 2 wheels but definitely not exhausting, rode 5 1/2 Swiss Alpine passes this year in one day and still OK at the end. Were talking of multiple hairpins with steep climbs both up and down the pass. As for braking you obviously either didn't listen to the video or don't understand the dynamics of braking on both 2 wheels and 3. During braking it is accepted that around 80% of the braking effort is on the front wheel due to weight shift during braking. This is why 2 wheelers generally have a double disc on the front and a single on the back. On a standard trike this braking is done by a single wheel, often with a narrow bike tire, during braking hitting a stone or pothole can cause major stability problems in extreme cases even flipping. A reverse trike has 2 wide wheels in front so much better grip and one wheel hitting a pothole has less effect so much more stable. Riding fully loaded on 2 wheels on trips can have problems, you may have nothing but straight, flat roads in the USA but elsewhere we have twisty roads with tight turns where the high centre of gravity of 2 wheels can cause problems. I was part of a group riding in the Alps this year and one of the 2 wheelers on a BMW GS1250 fully loaded with a pillion dropped it on one of the hairpins on an Alpine pass, couldn't happen with my Spyder RTL.
@@JimGDMAC Your point on front brakes is well taken. AS far as twisty roads, we live in SE Ohio just acorss the Ohio River from West Virginia. One of our favorite motorcycle vacations has been the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive in North CArolina and Virginia. If you ever get a chance to come to the states you ought to check them out. They are beautiful mountain twisties and the speed limit is only 35 MPH so you can really enjoy the view and there are plenty of overlooks. I still don't like the way a CAn AM Spyder handles, so I will stay with mt TriGlide. AS I get older, my 69th birthday is tomorrow I might find myself going for a Piaggio 500cc MP3 What do you think if them?
As far as the effort for steering I repeat that my Spyder has power asisted steering so a lot less effort is needed than your Tri Glide, stil more than a 2 wheeler but not a great effort needed. In fact the assist has to be reduced with speed or it would be too sensitive for small movements. I can steer at road speeds with one hand and little force needed. Only at slow speed with near full lock does it take more effort to turn the bars. Your ideas about braking need a lot of changeing. It is fully accepted that around 80% of the braking is done by the front brakes especially on 2 wheels but still the same on 3. Yes there are 3 wheels being braked whether standard or reverse trikes but it is the front doing most work. Threfore reverse trikes have 2 wheels for most effective braking while standards only have one. Also converted 2 wheelers still tend to have motorbike tires on the front so have less tread on the road than the wider tires on a reverse trike. Not sure if I would ever ride a Tri Glide especially the newer ones with a very poor record of safety with failure of the ABS system locking up one of the rear wheels killing the drivers and pillions.
@@JimGDMAC Maybe the Can AM I test drove needed the steering assit reduced or something. It was very jerky and darted from side to side. At 40 MPH my wife was yelling she wanted off the thing. I took it back to the dealership. I did like the way it shifted and I like the way reverse worked.We just didn't like the steering. The salesperson said I would get use to it in a couple weeks, but I felt I shouldn't have to get use to soemthing like that.
Why do these vids show three wheel cars? If you sit in the veh and it has a steering wheel then its a three wheel car. If you have a three wheel veh which you sit astride and it has handle bars then it is a trike. Please get these distinctions right.
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@@maxhengstenberg908 I got sick last year and was in a coma for 5 weeks. When I came out of the coma I couldn't walk. I had to sell my motorcycle so I bought a Vanderhall
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I’ve been riding for just over 54 years. I now have 2019 Can-Am Spyder RTL primarily because my wife is petrified of two wheels and I can barely get her off the three. For most riders wanting/needing to make the jump, I’d suggest the Can-Am F3 series. They’re much easier in every way and the rider sits lower in the seat with a more controls forward riding position. Former Harley riders seem to gravitate toward these, plus the added swagger is fun.
The RTL took a good while, approximately 6000 miles before I was feeling comfortable and few thousand more before I became one with the machine. Most people give up before that and most RTL owners are clueless as to what it is they own.
Riding solo in the mountains I got caught up in a derecho and the Can-Am handled it remarkably well. I was able to stay just ahead of the worst of it finding enclosed shelter before all hell broke loose.
Another time, riding two up in the mountains we rounded a long sweeping turn straight into a squall. It was as if two separate realities slammed into each other. The short of it is we turned tail, no available shelter for 23 miles, flashers running, visibility about 50-75 feet, maintained 45-50 mph in rainwater covering my rims and rising, automobiles flying past us, freezing and soaked to the bone, compartmentalizing every perception, we made it safely to a small gas station and waited it out.
The only harm to the machine was that the high water stripped the wheel balancing weights which my dealership replaced for free.
I drive mine like I stole it. Very few bikes, or riders can stay with me through the turns and twisties. Dialed in, plus a Pedal Box, trail braking and accelerating simultaneously is a wicked foe for the twofers.
I make it a point to use a different technique and/or a different combination of techniques on every maneuver; be it a turn, twist, curve or lane adjustment without repeating on every ride. These are, if you can imagine, a perfect blending of motorcycle and Go-Kart.
This guy is a god ! He sounds as if he is Jim Thorpe of motoheads ! Call me impressed !❤😊
I want to try a tilt a motor conversion. The guy that invented it was spot on. Expensive as hell but I believe it’s the solution all trike companies will eventually go to.
Maybe I missed it but I never heard the name Can Am Spyder come up nor did you show one.
I'll take the harley trike any day. I've driven one and love the way it handles. But then I've always been a harley lover
I have over 40 years on bikes, and 10 of them on the Can-Am Spyder RT. The Reverse trikes are much more stable then the traditional trike during normal operation. I feel VERY secure on the Can-AM, and the adjustment to it from 2 wheels bikes was very quick. One thing to remember that was not mentioned here is tire paths. A car has 2 tire paths, a motorcycle has 1. These trikes, if they are traditional or reverse styles, have 3 tire paths. This makes the skills at missing objects in the road much more difficult then any other vehicle. With my can-am, I have less than 8 inches to the inside of each front tires to clear an object in the road from hitting the front or rear wheels. This does take some getting used too, especially when quickly coming upon the object. Also, all motorcycle classes instruct you to avoid the very center of a travel lane as that is where the "Oil Path" is from most cars and in even slightly wet conditions make that middle of the road very slick. Most reverse trikes are powered by the single rear wheel, putting your traction wheel directly in this potentially low traction area.
Thanks for sharing that. I never attended a motorcycle class but have been riding solely 2 wheelers for 33 years yet never discovered that Oil Path. I'll look out for it now.
Exactly... Good summary of the pros and cons...
I have a trik, it has a independent suspension making it so smooth. But the guy that I bought it from got a can-am for the way it sets it relived the pain in his hips due to arthritis. The set and ride definitely .each rider need salic what beast for them. Lucky for me I love it.
I was in a rush on my last comment so I wanted to come back and share my experiences from owning a Ryker 900 for a year. I came from a Harley 48 to the Ryker after I had a very minor accident with my daughter on the back (gravel, hadderlayerdown, etc.). Wife insisted I get rid of the Harley and I bought the Ryker as a compromise. I love the look of the Ryker, it has a nice "cruiser like" riding position and it definitely gets attention wherever you go. I got the passenger seat, 2 Up Spring, and some other cosmetic upgrades. All in I paid right at 15k for it. It was wonderful riding around town and any sort of backroads. The only issue I had where I was a little concerned was on the interstate. It "can" go over 70 but it feels very squirrely and I highly recommend buying the swaybar upgrade for it. Also the factory lights are just plain awful at night so you are going to need to get LED lights for it. The 2Up spring is a waste of money if you are a heavier person (over 250 pounds) and want to have a passenger. You would need to get some aftermarket shocks. Many people complain about the seats on the Ryker's, I thought they were fine. You see where I am going with this, the price point on the front end is attractive but the necessary upgrades you are looking at a few grand more to get it to something that is comparable to a decent ride. Finally, some of the things you love about riding a motorcycle just aren't there in a Ryker. The motor sounds horrible, even with aftermarket exhaust. There's no gear shifts, no clutch, and you cant even rev it if you want to. A Ryker is a great option for someone with disabilities that wants to ride. After you invest all that money to make it a decent ride you are slipping into Spyder territory. I sold the Ryker after a year because it just wasn't as fun as the Harley. I am looking at a Spyder FR-S but at 24k base price I am going to be waiting for a while and trying to find a decent used one. I still want a V-Twin "Harley" version of the Spyder/Ryker I think there is a market for those if a manufacturer would give it a shot. The Harley trikes just look like oversized senior mobility chairs to me.
There is a company in Wisconsin called Endeavor trikes that will turn your bike into a reverse trike. If I had the funds, I would get a newer Goldwind done. Dream machine! 👍
reverse trike is safer and handles alot better than a trike
No it dose not. I’ll take my freewheeler over those ass backwards trikes any day.
I had a rt limited spyder and Freewheeler at the same time because I didn't know what I'd like better, I sold the spyder, the Freewheeler win hands down and after a few times you can do everything you could on the spyder
I've been riding for a long time and have owned a variety of motorcycles. The first time I rode a Can Am Spyder I thought, where have you been all my life?
I've been riding for almost 60 years. The last 18 years on a Honda Valkyrie motorcycle. My wife kept pushing me to get a Can-Am after she road with a friend who had one. She felt more comfortable and secure with three wheels. Finally purchased one and it does take some getting used to the turning simply because it feels different. That said, it didn't take long. The other issue is the shifting, which is accomplished via your left thumb and doesn't require you to lower the rpms as you shift. It downshifts on its own as you slow down. I do love the ability to store two full face helmets in the Spyder RT and all the additional storage compared to the bags on my Valk. The Can-Am feels more stable with two wheels in front compared to two wheels in the back. Anyone who's ever seen a tricycle tip over can attest to that. Also this configuration definitely smooths out the railroad tracks and bumps. Looks like it's Can-Am from here on out.
I just want an affordable trike (either normal or reverse) that’s automatic transmission.
Can Am all the way !
yes can am all the wayway.
Everyone has to be comfortable riding whatever they choose. That said, on our mountain roads we are frequently waiting for regular trikes (and a lot of 2 wheelers) to get our of our way as we zip by on our Can Am F3's.
I had both a Can-am spyder and Harley Freewheeler. I wanted to see what I liked better. I sold the spyder because after a few mods on the Harley, it's wonderful and looks better in my humble opinion
It depends on what one likes. I just don’t like the look of the CanAm. That’s my choice. I like the sound of a Harley Trike compared to a CanAm with a snowmobile motor.
I found Can-Am Spyder is Awesome after riding two Wheels for 51 years. It was time I felt more safe and the Comfort is great on a Spyder.
Another clarification.
Reverse trike that you ride inside is a Auto Cycle, drive it like a car. If you can fall off its just a trike or reverse trike.
A autocycle can have protection like roll bars and seatbelts even a roof.
I wish I could like the looks of a reverse trike, I've got good friends that ride them. But since I grew up on a Honda 70 ATC, and then a 110 Honda ATC (both 3 wheelers with the one tire in the front) as a preteen kid in the 70s, it's probably the reason I love the traditional trike (single wheel in front). As long as it's fun y'all, RIDE WHAT YA WANT, GOD BLESS Y'ALL🤠🙏
I built The Magnum trike . Traction was comparable to a Honda accord , pulled about the same G force before loosing grip on the back wheel . Center of gravity was extremely low There was absolutely no sign of flipping it . The acceleration was equal to a corvette . Top speed was around 145 mph . Stopping on wet surface could be challenging
I found it hilarious when Harley started selling three wheelers in the showroom. Up until that they adamantly maintained that such things as after market attachments to their bikes were inherently dangerous. Those after market rigs were the blueprint for their own conversion. My only problem with the Can Am came when Florida decided testing on those got you a license for 'all' motorcycles as the way they behave is SO different from two wheelers.
Well my biggest problem with oem harley trikes is the suspension. The Harley oem trikes have solid suspension while MOST after market have independent suspension suspension. Which is a Game changer
@@ruknot4648 I can see that. It makes the Harley trike a huge ATC. I wonder if the old 'servi cars' were solid.
Rode both. Prefer the reverse trike. Once you get used to the tail wiggle it is a more stable, more fun ride.
You didn't cover the can am spyder.
Anyone who has ridden both styles knows that two wheels up front is way more stable... That's why ATV trikes got banned for their instability...
I am almost 65 and looking for a trike. My brothers are HD riders for years. I've never ridden a two wheel bike and will not try it at this age.
I love the look and quality of a HD trike and have heard and watch many videos about the reverse trike, like Can Am. One thing it is not mentioned is the type of crowd that rides can am vs HD and also de resale value of a Can Am vs that of a HD trike. Share your thoughts. Happy trails.
The reverse trike is by far better than the Backwheel trikes the reverse trike is built around steering and handling. A backwheel triangles poorly and ride very harsh. I appreciate you using my personal endeavor trike in this video along with other information
I believe the Harley takes are by far the easiest to get fixed. In North East Ohio. We have way more experienced Harley mechanics than can am dealership. I have owned a gold wing csc trike for 10 years and l am lucky to have a repair shop locally. She's been paid for so I probably won't be buying another. If I did it would be a factory built Harley Davison. I like the freewheel. I have demo rode them all over the years. Just my opinion
Rode 2 wheel till could no longer at 80. Now own reverse trike, Can Am. Only issue , in hard turn, without arm rests in back a driver could throw a passenger off as bike has so much stability.
The rear passenger has hand grips on both sides.
Take the can-am any day, it's like being able to snowmobile all year long.
Not all backwards trikes have the extra wide front, they have a granny program that applies the brakes and doesn't allow you to accelerate in curves.....the reason being is the chance of flipping.......rear wheels you don't want to apply brakes in curve due to chance of flipping, however accelerating in curves is good
The leaning trikes are whole different critters
Those trikes you showed on the beach were not touring machines you were talking about
I would not recommend front wheels trike.....however with the brake problems of Harley trikes I would have to recommend the Honda
And again the leaning trikes are a different critter.....I haven't rode one but I sure want to
Problem with reverse trikes in US is we are pretty much limited to Can Am. I like Rykers and Spyders but I really want a Vtwin and a clutch like a reg Harley trike would have. Rykers ans Spyders are like Power Wheels for grown ups. Twist throttle and go.
I think the ”revers trike” is called a tadpole trike. And the ”trike” is called a delta trike. Also you had pictures of tadpole trikes with and without leaning system and you didn't meantion it. Even if it does make a drastic difference in how the bike is steered.
I have ridden both. If I were going to go the trike route, I would go with the Can-Am over a traditional trike. Having said that, I'm not a fan of vehicles with an odd number of wheels so I probably wouldn't buy one either way. I also disagree with a number of the statements made at the beginning of this video referencing the differences between trikes vs motorcycles.
I have tried the spider can am center of gravity is high and gives a sense of being unstable in turns
Newer ones have lower COG. I find my F3 is sportscar like stable in corners.
You can ride them fast even in turns... they are so stable. You have to plant your opposite side foot hard on the peg and lean your body over to counter as you turn hard. I've gone through twisties easily leaving all the sports bikes in my dust while they are dragging knees lol. I think the Harley I road would have flipped even trying it.
I hear Harley Davidson has a lawsuit against them on rear brake lock up on their trike
As owners of both, the Original trike easily flips and falls over and is UNSTABLE. Many deaths have occurred from the instability on the Original trike.
The reverse trike is VERY STABLE.
The only real difference, other than bias and prejudice from bike owners, is in the turning. With 2 wheels you lean into the turn. With the reverse trike you do not lean. You simply turn the wheel. Handles more like a wet bike. You do not lean over on a wet bike.
It also handles like a Harley with a side car. You do not lean a Harley with a side car. You just turn the wheel.
Cam Am
So which one Is old school??
Which of these trike models can handle the aggressive Alkebulan 🌍 terrain?
You failed to mention the market leader in reverse trikes, Can-Am. Spyder has power assisted steering, traction control, so hands down winner. And far more stable than trikes.
One wheel in front, two in the back - trike. Two wheels in front, one in the back - scooter.
I'm liken the trike I ride now
BOTH ARE NICE...BOTH ARE OVERPRICED 😅😅😅
Where’s the can-am in this review?
Same here.
AT 3:36 in this video you show a reverse trike which is an Endeavor Trike from Minnesota. This is a patented process and more than likely you did not get permission to show this motorcycle in the video. It is the personal trike of the inventor.
Sold Harley 2015 street glide special got can am rt limited I can ride it all day not get saddle sore so much more comfortable u just gota slow down in corners ride the inside love mine
Oh yea 44gallons storage and you get no motor heat ride on hot day un like a harley
The harley trikes are usually ridden by old timers that can't hold up a heavy bike anymore and the spyders are usually ridden by 50 year old women and others who are afraid of motorcycles. Harley trikes usually still get respect while the Spyders are generally looked down upon by bikers.
Until the Harley trikes try to keep up with you through the mountains. Then they want suggestions.
Not correct that a 2 wheel is harder to handle than a 3 wheel. Fully loaded Goldwing with passenger is way easier to ride than a Can Am or regular trike and from my experience if no health issues safer. Had a Goldwing and went to a Can Am after 2 knee replacements and can say the Can Am is a upper body workout in the twisties, not so with a Goldwing.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your personal comparison between the Goldwing and the Can Am. It's always great to hear from someone with firsthand experience.
Sorry but I had to give your video a thumbs down. You did a great job on explaining everything EXCEPT ONE VITAL FACTOR.
The Can Am Ryker. Brand new from the dealer is just a little over $8,000. Then add the fact that Can Am (BRP) is a global company. Almost anyone can get a Ryker with very little hassle.
The maintenance is easy enough the Ryker Lady Riders are doing much of it themselves!!! (See Ryker Rydes for all her amazing tutorials!!)
So all that throws the reverse trike into a “perfect score” with that included. Therefore I couldn’t give this video a thumbs up because not only was a big part of the information missing, but the Ryker had been available since 2019. How could you have missed it in your research???
I’d rather just have a two wheel motorcycle and when I go on long trips and Carrie stuff and passengers, just jumping my damn truck😅
Trikes are difficult on turns ,must slow down into turn's, Data of crashes! Can't use front brakes more than 25 percent and 75 percent in rear! Using front brake total will snap your handle bar of the direction of that turn! 😧 And it's worst with trike conversations because front end not raked for conversion,so you have double the force into turn's , bottom line try both! If no good,time quit riding and be safe ,both are a learning experience curve!
Youn say you do not have to put forth any effort to ride a trike. I disagree. On a two wheeled motorcycle all you have to do is lean while on a trike it is all about steering and it is a hard steer. My wife and I have traveled more than 300,000 miles on two wheeled motorcycles but due to health issues we had to go to a trike. You get exhausted no matter if the machine has two wheels or three, there is no difference. The vibrations and the wind wears you out. I've never had any trouible riding double and carring a tent, sleeping bag, air mattress, and clothes on a long trip with a two wheeled motorcycle. It is an easy ride if you are going on a trip because usually on a trip it is highway riding.How do figure that you get a better view of the traffic, the view is exactly the same on my TriGlide as it was on my two wheeled motorcycles? Your explanation of braking on a reverse trike is hog wash. You have three wheels braking no matter if it is a normal trike or a reverse trike, Therefore one is not better than the other. I went to a trike after my wife, who always rides with me battled cancer eight times. She had 12 surgeries in ten years, maxed out on chemo, radiation and cyber knife treatments. She is currently on immnotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. When the cancer in her brain caused seizures we went to the trike. Our thoughts were if she had a seizure on a two wheeled machine it might cause an acciident injuring both of us and maybe others. On the trike we feel I should be able to pull over and tend to her needs. We test drove a CamAm Spyder and both of us HATED the way it handled. The Gold Wing trike felt like a bicycle with training wheels bobbing from side to side. I fought the idea of a trike as long as I could, but my wife insisted.So we test drove a Harley and it drove great and that's what we bought. We are now on our second Harley Davidson Tri Glide.
Your complaint about the effort needed to steer a trike is a good reason why you should have gone Can Am, the spyders have power assist so require much less effort to steer, still more than 2 wheels but definitely not exhausting, rode 5 1/2 Swiss Alpine passes this year in one day and still OK at the end. Were talking of multiple hairpins with steep climbs both up and down the pass.
As for braking you obviously either didn't listen to the video or don't understand the dynamics of braking on both 2 wheels and 3. During braking it is accepted that around 80% of the braking effort is on the front wheel due to weight shift during braking. This is why 2 wheelers generally have a double disc on the front and a single on the back. On a standard trike this braking is done by a single wheel, often with a narrow bike tire, during braking hitting a stone or pothole can cause major stability problems in extreme cases even flipping. A reverse trike has 2 wide wheels in front so much better grip and one wheel hitting a pothole has less effect so much more stable.
Riding fully loaded on 2 wheels on trips can have problems, you may have nothing but straight, flat roads in the USA but elsewhere we have twisty roads with tight turns where the high centre of gravity of 2 wheels can cause problems. I was part of a group riding in the Alps this year and one of the 2 wheelers on a BMW GS1250 fully loaded with a pillion dropped it on one of the hairpins on an Alpine pass, couldn't happen with my Spyder RTL.
Can Am is perfect for twisty roads.
@@JimGDMAC Your point on front brakes is well taken. AS far as twisty roads, we live in SE Ohio just acorss the Ohio River from West Virginia. One of our favorite motorcycle vacations has been the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive in North CArolina and Virginia. If you ever get a chance to come to the states you ought to check them out. They are beautiful mountain twisties and the speed limit is only 35 MPH so you can really enjoy the view and there are plenty of overlooks. I still don't like the way a CAn AM Spyder handles, so I will stay with mt TriGlide. AS I get older, my 69th birthday is tomorrow I might find myself going for a Piaggio 500cc MP3 What do you think if them?
As far as the effort for steering I repeat that my Spyder has power asisted steering so a lot less effort is needed than your Tri Glide, stil more than a 2 wheeler but not a great effort needed. In fact the assist has to be reduced with speed or it would be too sensitive for small movements. I can steer at road speeds with one hand and little force needed. Only at slow speed with near full lock does it take more effort to turn the bars.
Your ideas about braking need a lot of changeing. It is fully accepted that around 80% of the braking is done by the front brakes especially on 2 wheels but still the same on 3. Yes there are 3 wheels being braked whether standard or reverse trikes but it is the front doing most work. Threfore reverse trikes have 2 wheels for most effective braking while standards only have one. Also converted 2 wheelers still tend to have motorbike tires on the front so have less tread on the road than the wider tires on a reverse trike.
Not sure if I would ever ride a Tri Glide especially the newer ones with a very poor record of safety with failure of the ABS system locking up one of the rear wheels killing the drivers and pillions.
@@JimGDMAC Maybe the Can AM I test drove needed the steering assit reduced or something. It was very jerky and darted from side to side. At 40 MPH my wife was yelling she wanted off the thing. I took it back to the dealership. I did like the way it shifted and I like the way reverse worked.We just didn't like the steering. The salesperson said I would get use to it in a couple weeks, but I felt I shouldn't have to get use to soemthing like that.
Why do these vids show three wheel cars? If you sit in the veh and it has a steering wheel then its a three wheel car. If you have a three wheel veh which you sit astride and it has handle bars then it is a trike. Please get these distinctions right.
CAN AM...ALL THE WAY...😂😂😂
Just buy an BRP CanAm...problem solved.
Did you check the AI script before uploading? so many repeated sentences.
Tutorial of Information video with background music are totally USELESS 👎👎👎. I don't see the point of it. Im people want music, they can simply listen to Pandora 👎👎👎👎
Lost me at tricycles. Pretty disrespectful.
how so? Motorized Bicycle or Motorized Tricycle, they are both Motorcycles.
Trikes are for children 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Might as well get a Toyota Collora and roll the windows down!
Who in the hell made this crap!
What bike is this 0:25?
H.D Freewheeler is the way to go. You can keep those ass backwards things.
Have you riden a vanderhall or slingshot. Let me guess NO
@@gregnutter4658 yes. I have. Not my style. Don’t like either
@@gregnutter4658 if you are going to get either of those. Ya may as well buy a car.
@@maxhengstenberg908 I got sick last year and was in a coma for 5 weeks. When I came out of the coma I couldn't walk. I had to sell my motorcycle so I bought a Vanderhall