“I felt like I got kicked”: Ontario man told new EV battery would cost more than $50,000
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Simrat Sooch of Stoney Creek, Ont., was a true believer in electric vehicles, who described his first one as “very reliable.”
To trade up, he bought a pre-owned 2017 Ioniq made by Hyundai. The vehicle had already been driven 69,000 kilometres but the warranty covering the electric charging system and battery was good for 160,000 kilometres. Sooch told Global News he was confident in the purchase and figured he wouldn’t have any issues with it.
But in October, a warning light appeared on his instrument panel. He took the car to the dealer, but technicians couldn’t find a problem. Two weeks later, Sooch said the vehicle stopped charging and the Ioniq was back at the dealership. After diagnostic checks, he said technicians determined the battery needed to be replaced.
The quoted cost, including the battery, installation and taxes came to more than $50,000. “I felt like I got kicked in the privates,” Sooch said in an interview.
Global’s Sean O’Shea has the details.
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Suddenly $3,500 for a new transmission doesn't sound too bad.
I don't know were you are going to find a new transmission for $ 3,500 but I can tel you that I have a customer who has a 2019 BMW X5 that the engine fail just past the manufacture's original warranty and a replacement engine with out any acesories just the cylinder head and block was more than $ 30 000 and a other customer came in he needed new injector for his BMW 6 cylinder engine and they are $ 1,000 a each so $6,000 for all 6 plus installation and taxes engine and trasmissions on new cars now are not cheap anymore but $ 40.000 for a new battery for a 2017 ionic is way over priced he should've check for a used one .
You can’t find any new OEM transmission for that much
@@V10PDTDI BMW is always the endless money pit for people have too much money to throw away, it's not an ordinary car for normal people.
Laughing out loud 😂😂😂😂
@@V10PDTDI ..Thats a BMW not a Hyundai,a gas Hyundai engine is $4000 installed brand new after tax at the dealer! $1,700 if you do it yourself!!
Funny how these companies only step up once news outlets get involved. Good that you helped this man out.
Of course 😂
Bad publicity = threatens future sales. Cheaper to fix driver's problem than to lose even more money to non-sold EVs.
Hyundai is the worst.
@@EattheApple666 Don't forget Kia!
NEVER buy a kia/hyundai. They lure you in with their warranty and interior. But you will very quickly find out why their cars are very shallow and why they warrant hate.
Anyone who buys a used EV is in for a miserable time when it starts breaking. When we see them on the auction lot, they usually look fairly new but are totalled in many cases...or even salvage titled. All because the cost of repairs is so high they just get scrapped like this guy had to do.
an old used EV might as well self destruct, n go up in flames, as it has little, to no resale value, n no one wants it. useless, n worthless lawn ornament.
Temporary problem, as EV adoption continues (and despite the oil-ad driven media) prices for repairs come down. As for higher electric bills, I assure you what you save in gas more than equals by several factors.
@@kontrol49y99That’s due to BMWs horrifically bad reliability and repair costs…
@@fractalelf7760 incorrect
@@fractalelf7760 And communism and islam are religions of peace.
Cool EVangelist guerrilla marketing, bro!
👌🏻
Had the same problem with Hybrids. Saved gas, but once the battery went out, it cost $5k, with no aftermarket available. It pretty much washed out all I saved on gas.
Exactly.
That's what makes it a scam.
You get to start over again with the new battery. Is the new battery warranty anymore than than as if it was a new purchase of the car?
I just LOVE when a corp suddenly jumps up to fix a problem to "show their commitment to their customers"...right *after* a news organization runs a story about how they are screwing a customer.
Had an incident like this with Toyota. June 2021 rear wheel bearing gave out and could not get another one as Toyota Canada had them on "backorder" for several months as they needed to get them from their warehouse in Iowa. Living in Atlantic Canada, I called a Toyota Dealership in Brewer, Maine and they got the part from this same Iowa warehouse in less than one day. Had them mail it to me and had the part in 5 days. Informed the press of this and before they could do an interview with me, the local Atlantic dealer "found" a part and was ready to install.
Once toyota, NEVER AGAIN.
It makes buying a used EV impossible. Used EVs have no market value at all.
The dude bought a used battery powered electronic device. What on earth makes you think it would last longer than other batteries... 🙄
Just sold our Camry with 295,488mi.. external seals, timing chain, struts/balls all it took since 1996. 38mpg all day every day with good tires.
Gluttons gonna glutton.
edit: Toyota is life enabling.
They didn't screw a customer. Educate yourself on how warranties work. This was a mistake at the lower level. People need to stop misrepresenting the situation.
We should be thanking this man for the heads up
The reporter?
The owner of the car.
This is not new news, people have been screaming this for a lot of years. And all the plastic in these garbage cars made of OIL!
Another reason for PHEV (plug in hybrid) ...small battery.
how do people not already know this? I don't even drive and I know this.... lol....
I live in a very affluent area of Marin County. Two years ago, you could throw a stick in any direction, and it'd hit a Tesla. There were charging stations at every market
I watched as yet another group of those stations were being built at my local strip mall 8 months ago; eight spots taking up more prime parking spots...
It's now been 4 months since they've finished, and I've never seen more than a single EV parked there. Ever. A month ago, I drove past, and there was yellow caution tape cordoning off half of them. The tape is still up as I write this
I'm also not seeing as many Teslas on the road now, either...
Update 12/31/23: The yellow caution tape is still there, now faded and flapping in the wind. None of the spots being used.
What a waste of money...
Yup, Tesla had their run, people have had enough of unrepiability and other issues, and now they are dropping their prices trying to keep the sales steady.
Lived in your neck of the woods when priuses first were the IT car. The EV plugs were in every Bay area new parking tower, in the prime parking spots. Those spots were never used, so the disabled had to go much further because EV charging parking was more important, no exceptions. So 20 years later nothings changed!
I live in a small town where it snows and these ev parking spaces are prioritizing disabled and regular parking. Not one ev parks there because no one up here can afford one and they aren't practical in the snow 😂
alot of them telsas are probably burnt out they catch fire easly ,a fella told me they start to burn like a newspaper and cant be extinguished for hours like even with fire tenders , i cant belive this,, how shocking to the lovely enviroment with all this smoke and toxins going up in smoke
The most interesting part to me is that they are supposed to be so "green" but really they're probably much worse for the environment. Its just all of the damage is done on the front end.
Simply not true. Overall carbon footprint is way less as they are far more energy efficient than ICE, like there is no comparison here. At least Teslas are designed to be recyclable for the most part.
Yet you fail to acknowledge the child labour getting the minerals for these batteries??? @@fractalelf7760
@@user-ip3lt6wm4f Is this problem of environmental impact somehow unique to EVs? You’d be terrified to know what’s in all that brake dust for example. This “water battery acid” concern is a joke compared to the problems of Climate Change and pollution in general…
@@fractalelf7760stop preaching Mr Kale chips . Not everybody cares about your perspective
@@jordancarlin9687 You have no argument, check and mate…
Yeah Suddenly It's a miscommunication when the media gets involved
exactly
prob just a charge controller that needs replacing. ie $100 bucks. But they will milk you.
Not so much "wah", more like wah the f
NEVER buy a kia/hyundai. They lure you in with their warranty and interior. But you will very quickly find out why their cars are very shallow and why they warrant hate.
Moral of the story: Never accept "we cannot do anything" from a dealer. Demand the service manager, without raising your voice, or swearing. Make it very clear, that you are not satisfied and demand a resolution. If you cannot solve the issue, email head office with the invoice, work order. Mention that if you cannot come to a fair agreement, you will call in local media. This applies to any brand. There is also many consumer groups that can help you including the APA (automobile protection association) in Canada.
Global News can't be there for everybody. Just abstain from buying a used EV.
@@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Availablethe moral of the story is not relegated to EVs only. Even new ICE and Hybrid vehicles have issues. The point is don’t accept what the dealer says. Reach out to corporate and the APA for mediation. If you’re being kicked in the private parts or in this guys case was being bent over by the dealer, go to the media.
*write to the manufacturer* .. simple !
Manufacturer is waaaaay more concerned than some corrupt dealer
BTW - dealerships should be abolished !
agree, to not take dealer's refusal to warranty claim as final answer. Always escalate to HQ.
I don't know why dealers always try their best to deny as much warranty claim as possible? Maybe they make more profit if customer pays? Hope someone who works in auto service can shed some light....
@@Chrisinlgy I suspect they save their time/effort/strings for their VIP clients a opposed to the 2nd owner of a used EV. It's not right, but I won't be surprised if that happens.
I’ll keep my I.C.E powered vehicles. Paid $1500 for one and $4k for the other. They’ve been great, and have lasted me a very long time.
What does ICE stand for?
Internal Combustion Engine
Me two.
EVs are garbage. You couldn’t give me one lol
You could just say gas powered
Yep my father in law was going to buy a used EV until I told him to look into how much replacing the batteries. He called me back saying he was told $30k plus $1.5k for installation
I drive gas cars made by Toyota. I had a conversation with dealership manager and he told me Toyota warranted the batteries for 5 years . The problem is you get very little trade in value when warranty is about to expire or expired because potential buyers know they’re gonna be spending thousands on a new battery . It was good info from someone who had first hand knowledge. I wouldn’t buy one for many valid reasons but this is a big one . I found out auto and home insurance rates go up significantly and electricity usage does as well . They don’t tell you these thing when buying them .
I depends on battery size, and distance driven. For an average EV, driven daily, for about 36 miles a day (USA) you can expect about $1.50 to $1.80 to charge your car daily. Or a little less than $10 USD if needing a full charge. Even extrapolating a daily charge over a month that is still less than 60 dollars to "refuel" on average, average is the word I stress here. Compared to my car that takes premium only, I put in gas at least two to three times a month at 50 to 65 USD equivalent. So the cost definitely isn't much higher for a home electric bill vs keeping a ICE in operation.
Toyota is very disappointing. First they didn’t want to replace faulty rusted out battery cables of their hybrids claiming they’re not part of the
I guess electric cables are part of the fuel injection system…ay?🤣 Now you say they warranty their batteries for only 5 years??….pretty much everybody else covers them 8 years and 160000Km. Go figure that everybody still thinks Toyotas are the cat’s meow?? My 2020 Corsair, which by the way is actually a very good handling vehicle and fun to drive, has been 100% trouble free as has, so far, my wife’s 2023 AWD Ioniq 5 whose battery is warranted the 8 years/160000km I mentioned. I’m not anti Toyota, I’ve owned 2 Supras and a Lexus but things change
Your electric goes up when you are powering your car and it’s a surprise?
What’s staggering is people thinking the government will be giving up billions from fossil fuels,& their electricity bills will be very modest.
Yes, the vehicle was significantly beyond its warranty period so the owner (2nd owner in this case if that matters) has no warranty. However, $50K to replace the battery is absolutely ridiculous given the price of a brand new Ionic is in that range.
i bet the dealership wanted to milk him, or worse, wilfully scare him away from electric cars.
looking at the amount of dealerships sending open latter to the White house to delay the only electric law further out.
dealerships live from the mark ups they have on the cars and the servicing of the cars during the 5 year warranty time, oil and brake replacement and all other stuff, and they charge you for them good. electric cars dont need oil , spark plug, brake pad replacement. they cant charge you for nothing.. maybe for an air-filter change.. but most cases you can do that easy if you are willing to do it. and brand wake up that their dealerships put substantial mark-ups on the cars, but now in case of electric, it is literally slows down sales numbers.
i mean you can look up the MSRP of the cars, and then look the price at the dealership, and you say Hell no..
Trying to figure out why the engineers didn’t design a better system to change the batteries. Still amazed that with all the bad press on EV batteries being expansive to change they haven’t addressed this.
@@russellstewart5414 I've worked at an auto parts store where we changed batteries for free. Manufacturers will try to make maintenance as difficult as possible to try and force you to go to them for maintenance. My car, you have to take the bumper or a wheel off to get to the battery. Wont get a Chrysler or Jeep next time. Some cars, you have to disconnect the computer to pull out the battery. We couldn't touch those, you had to go back to the dealership for that so they can reset the computer.
As a side note, Tesla fan boys and EV propaganda outlets paint a picture where the batteries never wear out / become an issue. There are Teslas that have been driven a million miles and no problem. At the same time, the other day I took a look at a used car sales website and every Tesla model 2014-2016 that I random picked, the sales description said "battery replaced". Why?
@@mrdot1126It's not that conspiratorial. Why would you buy a car that's just about to run out of warranty? They don't want you to trade it in
This is the third case involving Hyundai and an EV battery replacement rip-off I've come across online. I would definitely avoid any Hyundai vehicles. I'd also like to know about customer experiences with other EV manufacturers in similar situations. Is this normal for ALL EVs? If so, EVs are not the godsend governments are pretending they are.
It is normal with EV cars. Jaguar has decided to shut down their EV manufacturing line because after the first round of buyers realised the hidden costs and inconvenience, they didn't want to purchase a second one. This had a knock-on effect because new consumers didn't want to buy one either. Porsche and Volkswagen are having similiar issues and many Porsche dealerships won't take your used Porsche EV because there are too many and no one wants to purchase them. There are also not enough qualified mechanics to work on them, and finally the cost of charging the vehicles. Not only does it take a lot of time out of your schedule but the costs of charging may become problematic in future - you won't be in a position to complain about it. Lastly it loses around 10-25% of its resale value annually, so after 3 years dealerships may not offer you anything depending on the model. I find the insurance to be quite high and they don't really fix them once they have been in an accident because of the batteries - remember your EV vehicle may an auxiliary battery as well. You as the consumer will be the loser in the end.
I saw an ad for Volvo’s EV that described it as being like your cell phone, only bigger. And, I think that’s entirely accurate. You won’t repair your new vehicle because it’ll be built with planned obsolescence in mind. Add to that, the amount of data and control corporations and governments will be imbued with as a result of their data collection capabilities and who wouldn’t prefer an old school car?
This isn’t just a Hyundai issue. Extremely high battery replacements seem to be common throughout the industry. I’m not a huge Hyundai fan, but I would’ve taken the credit and put it towards a similarly priced gasoline model.
That's because you're smart enough to have done your homework. Most EV owners aren't and they base their purchase decision on whatever narrative "green" EV evangelists tell them. Resale values will be non-existent for EVs. There goes all your "gas savings" as an EV owner, lol! 🙃
The last time I heard about an "invoice" like this, it turned out it was a fake. (A GM invoice)
The way Hyundai head office acted I suspect most of the "invoice" was LABOR, and NOT the battery.
Remember dealerships (stealerships?) don't make as much money repairing EVs, so they don't like them, and want to give them a bad name.
The more I see of the modern vehicle industry, the more I think Tesla's sales model is the future for all brands that wish to survive.
Financially it makes sense but still, gasoline is a poison.
@@tac7826lithium is even worse
@@tac7826As opposed to coal plants running to charge your battery and mining for lithium?
This gentleman was lucky because he involved a news station, and the story was escalated. However, this was not the case for my friend who's EV battery wouldn't charge, so Hyundai billed her $20,000 as she was out of warranty, and offer they could get her into another EV. Either way, this issue cost her thousands of dollars. My friend is back in a gas engine vehicle, I would not consider an EV for now.
So, Hyundai, + Stealerships = Scalpers! (At a Much Higher Level)
I suppose, there is no "Option" to pay for a "Reasonably Fair Priced Extended Warranty" at any point along the Way, also! 😳🙄
Maybe it makes a Tesla choice "Not So Bad" after all?
Good for her. EV is a scam
I bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf back in 2018. The car had around 80,000 km when I bought it for $10,000. I drive Uber so I put around 80,000 more kms on it before I traded it and it still had 80 percent battery capacity. I found the biggest issue was with the lack of charging stations and the chargers were often out of service.
Not now
Not Ever
Unfortunately I'm guessing your friends didn't own a Tesla
It's so ironic, that after he took his car to the dealer, two weeks later the battery stops charging!
I just spent $150 for a new battery for my gas-powered car. I intend to drive it until the wheels fall off.The whole EV push is one big scam!
My uncle had a similar story about an out-of-warranty issue with a turbo charger on his engine (required to operate) that was quoted at $32K. You know what he did? He called up corporate. And guess what? They actually fixed it for him!!!!! A very cool story.
What type of car? I’ve replaced dozens of turbos at work and they aren’t cheap, however, even on heavy equipment with grossly inflated parts prices compared to cars, I’ve never seen one be more than a couple thousand dollars from the dealer and labor to change them isn’t usually very much.
32k doesn't sound right on any vehicle
32k? Maybe for the whole car…. Turbos are always under 3k. Most of them are under 1k.
@@Jimster481 Did you notice how the story starts with "my uncle"? A lot of good car/bad car stories start with "my uncle", "my cousin", or "my friend". No personal experience but so and so said this (Dodge) is a piece of junk. People abuse their cars and want to blame the manufacturer.
@@tedunguent156 well he didn't mention any car model or make. The whole comment is pretty vague and doesn't really sound like the guy knows what he's talking about.
I personally own a couple of turbo cars and turbos are typically sub 1k to around 2k in most cars. A turbo job is 3k or less unless you have some specific special turbo model that is also in an impossible to reach location.
This should come as no surprise to anyone who's dealt with a Hyundai dealer before.
It’s not a surprise but how is public still not widely aware that Hyundai is absolute unreliable and badly built product. I don’t care about what I went through but I don’t want anyone else to go through it. I want people to buy a vehicles that are known to be reliable built very well. Don’t rush without knowledge and let some salesman hook you up with a Hyundai.
@@wardogMMA, You are going off on the company in general here! I can tell you that people are right about the greed and incompetence of dealerships, but most Hyundai cars are as reliable as you can hope for. I bought a new Accent in 2009 and sold it with 200k km and all I had to do was oil, timing chain and brakes. I bought a 2016 Accent and did only oil changes to 2019 when I got a new Kona that now has 95k km. and only needed oil changes, brakes and transmission fluid just done. You tell me how I can complain about the product! The dealer I bought the Kona from is a different story! last time I went to them they charged me $130.00 for an oil change and $ 160.00 for tires rotation.
@@wardogMMAthe problem is not Hyundai, it’s electric cars in general. Any brand ev out of warranty that needs a new battery would be extremely expensive
@@wardogMMA The public doesn't know because all they see is the cheaper price tag compared to other manufacturers. My parents bought a Palisade strictly because of the price of it. Warned them several times Hyundai's are problematic, all my dad would say is "But where else am I gonna get a truck that big, with all those features for that price?" lol I've told them time and time again "you get what you pay for. If it's cheaper, there's a reason for it."
Like every other car company did this. They just silwnce their customers.
Years ago, my son had a problem with his car and of course the dealership said nothing we can do and it was a Hyundai
I used to drive a Honda Insight which is a hybrid vehicle that I leased and when the lease was up, they asked me if I want to buy it. I asked how much it would cost to replace the battery if it goes bad and they said around $8000. I declined and bought a Honda Civic Si. That was probably 10+ years ago. Since then, I had reservations to buy an electric or hybrid because of this. Also, I used to work in the auto insurance claims department of a Fortune 100 company and a lot of our adjusters told me that most times, if an electric vehicle was damaged due to an accident or if it was flooded and the battery gets damaged, they will just deemed it a total even if the car is new. If the repairs will cost almost or more than the current value of the car, the adjuster will just declare it a total and guess what? Anytime you have a total loss claim, there’s a chance your insurance rate will increase too!
Going to the gas station is way easier than waiting like 35 minutes to charge a battery
or longer if your 3rd in line.
yep, only thing is, and it's a PLANNED thing, in major cities gas stations are almost unuseable due to all the robberies, thats how they will usher in ev's, but when you travel you will have to charge your ev in public anyway so there is no safe bet there.
So always remember the total open crime wave happening is for a reason, so many reasons.
If you live in an appartment and have to depend on commercial chargers it can actually be more expensive to fuel up an EV compared to an ICE car.
These dems have a plan!!!! It's not about what's best for you!!!
It's not about your convience it's about the plan these dems have .....when has this adminstration worried about americans?????😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The average consumer simply can't afford to drop $50,000 on a new battery for an EV that probably initially cost about the same amount, if not more. That's insane!!!
If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to build generational wealth and cultivate financial knowledge, you must be in the market......
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@@Florencecoxx Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances.
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@sheilajensen This is the Fourth time I'm seeing someone talking about Gary as there are lot of testimonies about him on Facebook. Do you know him ? if yes , did you work with him?
That’s nothing compared to how many ev vehicles are exploding now as of recent months 1000’s have been exploding randomly on freeways or on charging ports and they explode multiple times which is crazy. My father in law had a recall on his 2017 Kia Nero because the battery in the back seats where catching on fire, so he proceeds to buy a 2021 and the transmission went out.
I know, I’ve seen tons of stories and they will explode too. They’re difficult to put out. Water won’t do, it takes two fire hydrants. They need to have a special blanket to put those out.
This is one reason why people hold onto their older cars nowadays.
Big reason, even if they don't realize it consciously, is that the new car cost 30k++. An appliance that expensive can only really be justified over 15 years with repairs/maint under 1k a year avg.
So a 70k EV better last 30 plus years...but everyone knows they won't. One reason truck sales to people that never use the bed are high is trucks are better built than cars and last decades in hard use with proven histories.
I moved from Canada to Belgium. And here it is even more obvious. Cars do not corrode from insane over-salting and early 2K years cars are very common on the roads. Most are with clean running engines. Only VW diesels in older cars smells terrible. :) My younger relative drives Honda Accord from 2004. Emissions tax is around 200 Euro ... per year and insurance per year is about the same. His even younger sister purchased similar age Audi A3 as first car. EV... In Belgium they not allowing of company lease for employers if car is not EV. Even if lease cost is taken from gross salary, the lease cost of EV is so significant, any normal range EV is at least 500 EU per month for lease as benefit company provides. It could take up to 1/4 of net salary for EV lease in Belgium. The only two "cheap" EV here are one from Peugeot, with real range of only 200 km or made in China Dacia EV, which has only one star on safety rating and tiny range as well. And if you have to charge while on route and fast, they say it costs as much as fuel refill (1.5 Euro per L at least). From my experience here in Belgium as newcomer, we are forced by EU policies to buy old, used gas engine cars. Not very expensive new EV and not economical used with diesels. Passenger car with diesel engine emissions tax is about 1.5K Euro per year now in Belgium. But people are still using even them, because EV cots is an arm and leg and nobody is confident with repair costs of used EV. Used EVs are sold here for oddly low prices comparing to EV age. Sorry, for the long write.
@@kostyafedot551 in the mountains of Georgia, NC and Tenn, many a truck is still rolling from the 70s and 80s, and cars from the 90s. There are plenty of bright new vehicles, but the old ones still work. Also an advantage of far less salting due to ice storms only once or thrice a year
@@STho205 You won't find those in Canada anymore. And not even small engine oldies. Parts and service costs are insane. Most old cars been sold in Canada to so called container dealers.
I am just going to stick with my ICE vehicles for as long as possible.
or as long as fuel is readily available. I say that because here in the UK, Shell have stated they plan to cut the production of petrol and diesel by as much as 40% on the lead up to 2030......
Same. I have been saying for a long while, the furthest I'll go is a hybrid. I can't get myself to fully rely on battery power when I keep hearing stories like this. Yeah, issues like this guy's may (or may not) be rare. But I wouldn't want to take the risk either way.
@@Brian-om2hhI'm betting as those dates get a lot closer, they will get postponed. One of the tipoffs that EV is a scam: For everyone to move to an EV vehicle, we should be building new electric power generation stations as fast as the Chinese and Indians. But I'm not aware of anyone doing so. In California they already have summertime electric brownouts and blackouts. Despite that not to long ago Governor Gavin Newsom saw to a nuclear power station was shutdown.
Is the UK any different? Or do politicians think electric power just magically comes out of that wall socket?
It also has a greater impact on the environment just to mine the rare materials with gas and diesel powered machines than to build gas powered cars.
The estimate has a typo error. If you look at the copy of the quote at 1:12, the amount quoted in the LIST and NET is $4769.60. In the right side column the amount is $44769.60. The 4 was simply double typed - otherwise the numbers match exactly. So, the quote is closer to $5000 than $50,000. I agree, even the $5,000 is bad enough.
This honestly applies to all electric cars, and I really don't understand why only Hyundai car owners are doing this.The behavior of being conscienceless, enjoying the benefits, and then cursing behind is a deeply ingrained problem in Canada.
Right? It's like they can map out how to spend the money but don't map out how to keep their company thriving without screwing people over
Tesla batteries are lasting 300-500k without battery replacement. Actually there is a fleet service who superchargers nearly everyday going from LA to Vegas. They said they have teslas reaching over 500k with close to zero maintenance.
The problem was this guy bought a Hyundai. They are super nice on the inside but they almost always have engine problems. No shocker here that their batteries suck to
@@double_joseph327No, Elon.
@@double_joseph327id imagine third party battery replacements are viable.
Our 2017 Ford CV battery will cost about $5,000.00. 🫤 that's
too much for me.
One of the biggest problems with EVs in my humble opinion is not the initial cost or the battery charging issues in cold weather that they tend to have, but rather the cost of maintenance and repair. until that can be brought under control from a financial standpoint EVs will never replace gas powered vehicles because people simply can't afforded it.
Mine is the child and slave labor used to mine the minerals and the desecration of local water supplies in those areas. Exported pollution and exploitation is not the answer.
Lol, until your govt decides to ban the making of gas powered vehicles
@@nicoleturczynski7730 Hopefully, the travel and hospitality lobby groups will have something to say about that as it would greatly restrict and/or deter travel for millions.
Unless Trudeau bans them like he did our shopping bags & plastic straws.
@@nicoleturczynski7730governments can be overthrown.
Thank you for covering this. It is something that needs consideration. We have tried telling others. So many do not believe it’s even possible. 🤷🏼♀️
You really should have expected this. A rechargeable battery is the weakest part of any product.
In the old days we could fix many of the issues with our cars ourselves or we had some car geek friends who could get it fixed for a couple cases of beer and parts.
👍
one can still maintain, diagnose, n repair today's ICE vehicles. but an EV? no way. if it won't charge, won't turn on, won't move, etc., owner, don't even think about it. has to be towed to authorized dealer for professional diagnosis, n repair, which will be very very expensive.
That's why I'll keep my 17yr old car.
@@swiftkarma4436yep...I prefer my 12 year old car with no costly monthly subscriptions for heated seats and steering wheel plus other amenities that came with the car.😄
My 20 yr olde Volvo still on the rd, Surely Hydrogen is the way to go, these EV’s are chaining people to overpriced electrickery overpriced repairs not to mention catching fire n burning down owt that’s close, a big fire in an airport car park in the UK believed to be caused by an EV catching fire, it’s a big con trick by governments n th auto industry, a friend bought one, they spent more time looking for a charging port when on a journey amazingly many didn’t work, when your 200 miles from home power low, trying to find a charger is a nightmare,
Did he really think he was going to get a free battery ? Also you never buy a used EV .
That is reason why used ev depreciate alot now
Disposable cars seem good for the climate.
It would not be an issue if the batteries were not proprietary and had only one supplier.
Don’t buy an ev anytime soon
Another good reason to ask how is it that they're good for the environment again? You'd do more for the environment running your gas car to the ground (which oftentimes is more than 10 years) than buying one of those single owner cars.
This is the plan, 15 minute cities. No cars around
The problem here is dealerships seeking more profit, people with gas cars have been lied to about unnecessary repairs for decades, why would it stop with EV’s. My wife bought her very new car in for service and was told she ran over something and damaged the rack and pinion steering assembly requiring a very expensive repair, I told her to go to my mechanic for a second opinion, there was no damage, just a dealership trying to make more profit. Advice, Tesla has an 8 year warranty on the battery and will honor it.
Currently a service advisor. Here’s some advice. EVs are not cars you want to own, but cars you want to lease. The warranty DOES NOT cover everything like the sales reps tell you. If something non warranty related kills your battery, you are 100% liable to pay for BOTH. If you do wish to purchase and EV, DO NOT buy the cheap ones. The cheaper any electronic is, the shorter the life span and the increase in problems. If you can’t pay up for the high model EV brand new, you can’t afford one. Sorry.
Can you give an example of ''something non warranty'' that can kill an ev battery?
You don't want to lease them either. Stick with petrol or diesel. Will keep you in a job too.
@@PaventiRealEstate super charging. If you super charge your EV battery too often it will prematurely kill your battery. When the technicians open the batteries, they can tell based off the cells if it was supercharged too often. Most if not all EV manufacturers will not warranty a prematurely killed battery from superchargers, is it’s counted as customer error or wear and tear. That’s just one of many examples
I had a Nissan Kicks. It was pretty good. I bought with 80 k on the odometer and put another 80 k on it. I started with 90 percent battery capacity and it only went down to 80 percent capacity by the time I traded it. Needless to say I bought another Nissan. That being said I don't do a lot of maintenance at the dealer especially when they want to do all sorts of extra service.
BTW I only paid $10k and I bought it from a Hyundai dealer😂.
@@ross_ulbright7779 your one of the lucky ones. Most people don’t get that lucky. They end up like this poor guy, with a fat bill.
Nice vehicle ,fairly new, wasted and scrapped because it wont run.
Thats green and environmental, right?
But the 79 chevy truck is horrible for the environment, because it burns gas, but still runs after 40 years and didnt need new manufacturing or materials or any further carbon wastes in that time.
Every time you see someone do some kind of breakdown about how environmentally friendly EVs are they always conveniently leave out the fact that if(when) the battery goes bad it's at the least a huge carbon expense to produce a new one, or at worst the car get scrapped and I imagine pretty soon we're going to start seeing that happen pretty often. Of course if you try to argue with people that it's a problem many will come back with 'these batteries last 500k or 1million' or whatever ridiculous number while completely ignoring that time is also a factor, not just distance.
Exactly!
I can tell you're a person who doesn't like math.
The "huge carbon cost" of a new battery is still much less than burning all the gas as an alternative.@@BriBCG
@@aluisious Maybe not as much as you might imagine. You have to drive about 25000 miles just to offset the carbon of producing a battery pack, and that's assuming you're using completely carbon free energy generation which is far from the truth in most areas.
Add onto that the fact that cars are just getting scrapped because it's too expensive to replace the battery pack and the environmental friendliness get's a lot more fuzzy.
The resources to make the batteries are not ethically extracted either. I suppose using children to dig it out is green though.
This was just like my transmission going out right after it was a few thousand miles past the warranty of 80,000 miles. It was like they knew it would go out. Why else would they choose an arbitrary number like 80,000. Like the battery warranty of 160,000 miles. It was like they knew the battery wouldn't last much longer than 160,000 miles. I think I am going to buy more oil stocks because the EV revolution is a dud.
'Stepped up AFTER we got involved...' Which means if the news media hadn't gotten involved, they wouldn't have done a damn thing...
I had the same issue with Hyundai with a gas car. A ridiculous repair bill just after warranty expiry. Unfortunately, I didn’t have the media able to put public pressure on the company for them to do the right thing. Do you have that luxury? That access? Never Hyundai or Kia, never again.
I agree 💯. I hope no young kid buys a Hyundai and gets stuck with repairs and stress while at the age to enjoy beautiful gift that is life. It was me a year ago, but it’s all good, I learn from my own mistakes instead of others, which cost me in $ but gave me a lot of lessons.
Well just escalate it to the higher ups markups like that are illegal 50k is bogus
What was your issue? If not something that was a known problem/defect they shouldn’t have to do anything. You know the product you are driving, you know the warranty terms on it. I can understand being upset at the situation, but if you want everything under warranty, buy extended or buy a new vehicle every 3 years.
@@ryanmac358 what did you expect when you wrote up your repair quote ? Did you make a nice chunk of quick cash re-selling his scraped car ? just kiddin ya bro .
The sad reality is the battery is 70 - 90 percent of the cost of the vehicle. That's something most people won't find out until this happens to them.
New battery for 2017 ioniq is $2500. Asking rate for a 2017 is $14000 to $20000. Not anywhere near 70-90 percent,
Missed the full EV there. Either way the guy was getting ripped off from the dealer.. its no 17000 for an install@@notexpatjoe
@notexpatjoe Not even close! Two Ioniq 5 vehicles in Canada required new batteries and were quoted $60k which is more than a brand new Ioniq 5!
I would NEVER own an electric vehicle. Currently own a Toyota Highlander hybrid. Wonderful car. Went to Vegas and back on 1 tank of gas. (Live in southern California)
Hyundai company would have done nothing for this gentleman without the media. thank you for helping him.
I was planning to buy a Ioniq. But after watching this, I definitely have a change of heart. Thanks for the heads up!
There is a reason why they call them "Stealerships".
Why do people think they're saving money getting an electric car?
This should help sell more Electric vehicles!
Things get done when your story hits mainstream media!
Yes sir! A insurance company didn't want to give me full pop for my write off vehicle which I had waiver of depreciation policy on. Told the adjuster I am going to media and youll hear from them soon. Replies back, oh well have the full check when can you pick it up lol 😆
Only when stuff hits the news do they do anything
I'll never give up my gasline cadillac
If you hadn’t gotten involved, they would not have done anything!
These batteries are $15k and some should last a million kilometers. The outrageous dealer quote is the real story here
Yep smells like a Dealership Scam too me. This thing has a tiny 28kWh battery. 50,000 CAD is just wrong.
$160/kwh x 28= ?
@@ainhatda8807 Answer is 4,480, meaning it cost 46K to install? THE F$%^^&
Still 15K, you can buy a decent car for that much, or brand new Corolla for an extra 10k
Yeah but a an extra $10 for a Corolla is almost double the cost and it’s still a Corolla, not a Tesla. It’s like saying I could fix my Rolex or just buy a new Casio for not much more.
Planned obsolescence. This applies to almost all things we buy today.
Cars will be like phones, full of software and hard to repair.
“Planned obsolescence” = Disposable.
Disposable cars.
@@streamingvideo6654 They already are. Especially EVs.
Saving the planet, don't you know
At 1st I was _shocked_ 😳
Then I realized it's Canadian dollars..
50k for a new battery? More than what the car costs?
You do junk the car. New anything is a risk. Radical new medical procedures don't go well for the patient.
I’m so glad this worked out… Hyundai is the absolute worst when it comes to fixing issues for their customers. I had a similar experience with Hyundai back in 2019 and they refused to fix the issue for me. I will never purchase a Hyundai again and I have made sure I’ve shared my experience with friends and family, so that they stay away from the brand as well. I’m certain the only reason why they address the issue for this customer was because of your reporting and investigation kudos to you guys for putting these guys on notice.
Mine caught on fire in the driveway.Almost lost my life and these scumbags at Hyundai were the worst people to deal with.
Everybody knows Hyundai is a garbage brand. It's just that you didn't want to know.
We have a 2011 Hyundai Sonata with 135K miles on it and the engine went out, they put a brand new motor in it, I paid a total of 350 dollars for new belts etc.
Thats the thing though it didnt work out for him, he lost his car and scrapped it for 1k. Then learned after that he couldve been paid much more if he had waited for Hyundai's response.
Hyundai is really only good while everything is still warranted.
What this man has experienced is exactly what I have been saying regarding the used car market in the future. Li ion batteries will last (hopefully) ten years. After that time period, the batteries must be changed. Anyone contemplating buying a used EV will have to consider the high cost replacing the batteries. Anyone in their right mind will not want to pay more than half the cost of a new car to repair a ten-year old car. Bye-bye used car market and hello trash heap or used parts store.
Considering our currency’s rate of devaluation. What will ev battery cost in 10 years???
@@davidhamtaro- It will depend on inflation, availability of Lithium, Cobalt, etc. and demand. The gent in the video was quoted at $19K Canadian. You can do the math.
@@davidhamtarotwelve billion dollars! ....plus taxes.
@@TheByron130everyone’s a trillionaires by then 😅
Only ever lease a BEV.
We have a 22 year old supercharged Mercedes estate and a couple of Smart Fortwos, both being over 14 years old. That’s responsible and cheap motoring. This toxic EV nonsense is coming to an end and the plan is that it pulls ICE vehicles with it. They don’t want us to drive anything, anywhere.
Kicked to the groin that is. I've heard about the replacement costs of EV batteries, and worse yet, when they don't make the battery anymore. People buying a used EV beware, you're chances of getting screwed to the floor boards are better than 100%.
1:43 Scrapped a 6 year old car. This is the ugly truth of EVs. When, not if, but When the battery dies, the replacement cost of the battery makes the car worthless and off to the scrap yard it will go. But people keep believing in the EV Cult as some great savior.
My electric is designed to allow for installation of any brand of battery.
Remember how cordless phones had a simple battery storage lid, and customers didn't have to fork over a friggin kidney for a otherwise seamless battery replacement?
The news should do a major expose on the $ociopathy of industrial disease.
I’m sorry but there is no lesson here except don’t buy a Hyundai EV. EV batteries don’t cost 50K, and the car and battery were still under warranty. I don’t know any satisfied long term Hyundai owners.
@@josephsmith594 and I don't know anyone who died as the result of the carbon atom pollution and said that they went to a better place.
Sure, lots of redneck indigents and fancy Hollywood plasticized disingenuous people and politicians habitually say otherwi$e though, and say basically say delusional willful ignorance is their prerogative to the point of professionalism, in between the commercials.
@@josephsmith594This is all about scarcity. Hyundai IONIQ EV’s are rarer vehicles so the parts are harder to come by. Couple that with lingering supply chain issues, international shipping, taxes, labour, etc., and you have one expensive part. He might have just bought a lemon as well. These stories are not that common. There are a magnitude of Tesla’s and other EV’s on the road that are 10+ years old and still going strong. One bad car does not discredit an entire industry. If the Ford Pinto represented the entire automotive industry, this industry wouldn’t exist.
@@josephsmith594the warranty had run out. But the battery should not cost $50k
These EVs are really good deals. You don’t have to spend 10 minutes a week fueling them up you can now spend hours charging your battery EVERY DAY. WOW! What a good deal.
Do you imagine you will park up on your drive, plug it in, and stand there all night waiting for it to finish charging?
After a 2-4 years phone battery will always lose its efficiency or even goes bad. I'm not sure why people think it would be different with EV.
Nearly 45 yrs as a mechanic but retired now made a good living off internal combustion engine vehicles. We always seen the newest and best technology came with the big sticker price, to buy or repair. I maybe bias because of my good living but I’m not a big fan of EV’s ( yet) but this is where the EV market is at. Who knows how long it will take before batteries become available at a more reasonable price. I assume the next technology will dictate that. In my prime years a major repair, engine , transmission etc were expensive. It didn’t make the news, we didn’t have media or cell phone at every corner and every moment in the day. About his warranty? He’s 12,000 over , not 2,000 so someone saying he’s just barely out is not correct. 12,000 kms is the lower end of a full years worth of driving for a lot of people.
Very soon, there will be no need for either EV or ICE in the future...
We'll be getting our energy from the aether, and it will be FREE. As it was 150 years ago
Houses and vehicles at that time drew their energy from the atmosphere; that's why you see in the old photos of homes, towers, and spires with metal rods on top...
There are pictures of streets in Russia where there's been metal honeycomb-like grids exposed beneath the asphalt: mag-lev for vehicle levitation...
We've been lied to for two hundred years about electricity. It used to be free, but there are people who kept this technology hidden from the masses, instead creating all the lies around electricity, its availability, and charging us forever after for it. Absolutely criminal and corrupt.
This is why i'm sticking with Toyota/lexus hybrids for the time being. Not only are they reliable but 13 years down the line when the hybrid battery may fail, it is actually worth replacing as it is much smaller.
yep, much smaller pack, around 4k to replace. still pricey but nowhere near a full ev pack.
Or the hybrid systems will be removed or bypass as to keep the vehicles on the road with a lower repair cost for the customer. Because once the repair hits 50% of the value of the vehicle dou to age and km people will be unwilling to invest the money to replace even a hybrid battery
@@frankinhonda That's true but that's the great thing about Toyota/lexus, they keep a great resale value for a very long time.
It's usually one cell or module that needs to be replaced and most battery packs are designed for the failed cell or module alone to be replaced, it's just tgat the battery msnagement system is designed to brick the car if it thinks the battery pack has changed and there is no option ti factory reset it to rediscover the battery pack. Simply allowing a factory reset on the BMS woukd allow third parties ti refurbish battery packs at very loe cost even if the cells and modules are proprietary formats as you can slways salvage from scrap yards. Of course governmrnts need to starndarduze the cell and module formats too, there's no need for battery packs to be proprietary when the skateboard layout for EV's are all basically the same.
@@johnwang9914 I don't think the Toyota hybrid battery electronics have anything like that. You can actually buy a 2000$ aftermarket battery replacement kit and replace the cells while keeping everything else. I highly doubt the replacements will be of the same longevity as the original but it is more than enough for a second life for the car.
Imagine that. The rolling battery to which everything else is attached is expensive to replace.
This is what news should be doing.
Owned a Hyundai they ruined my credit even tho i paid them off. Still sent to collections. Horrible company will never ever purchase from that crap company ever again
So good to have a guy like Sean O'Shea looking out for consumers. We need more media advocates like him.
Put the bottle down.
Nobody mentions that a new $50,000 battery dumps vast amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere.
With an EV one does not visit a gas station, but the house electric bill goes up and most of the electricity comes from the burning of fossil fuels.
Sean is a star.
What a coincidence that the battery should fail 12k after the end of the warranty
programmed lol
@@integralexpo planned obsolescence
look it up lol
Makes you think doesn't it...
Planned obsolescence
By design
Obviously he has not seen videos about how these cars can burn like a blow torch! Anyone who wants one of these must do research very deeply.
This is absolutely ridiculous. No one in their right mind eill pay $50,000 to replace the batteries. Knowing this now, it doesn't make any ecological sense to purchase one in the first place. If you ask me, this is just another way to con the public. I'm here in the UK and currently want to replace my VW Transporter diesel van. It's six years old and has done 226,400 miles. The engine is perfect. I have had a look at the new fully electric model and it costs about £65,000. One that is only 18 - 24 months old retails for about £20,000. Very cheap. However, I would never buy one. As soon as there is a problem with the battery, its only good for the scrap yard. An equivalent diesel one will cost about £35,000. I will stick to diesel.
I’ve heard of e-waste before, but tossing an entire car into the dumpster?! Wave of the future I guess.
Apparently in China they roll new EV's off the assembly line ( hundreds of thousands or more) and right into huge fields of storage, never being sold. All to save face in trying to show the world Communist China is the world leader in ev's.
That folks is modern environmentalism.. It's all flash and dash imaging just to look progressive.
I mean... When the battery costs more then it would cost to get another vehicle... I hadn't ever really thought of it before, but if EV batteries are that irreplaceable that is a major reason to fear owning a second hand vehicle. It goes a little quicker than, say, the transmission.
"Wave of the future" WRONG, you've been living under a rock. Cars have been 20 years limited really starting in the 1970s oil crisis Malaise era. BEVs are no different Rav4 EV from Y2K on average survived 17 years. Sure you could replace the battery but that cost more than the value of the 17 year old car. Guess what 2005 run down Petrol & Diesel cars are going to scrapper right now as we speak. This has nothing to do with eWaste or Electric power train. Its the horrible business model of the car industry.
FYI way more NEW Jaguar Land Rover group cars get junked with in a few year after being Lemon Lawed. At a far higher rate than Hyundai Ioniq famiily. These are freaking crappy Petrol and DIesel engines mostly 4 bangers and the odd Straight 6.
Why would you "toss" the entire car into a dump, when the battery pack could be repaired or refurbished for a fraction of the cost of buying a new battery?
This is exactly what car people have been trying to warn the public about. Batteries are so expensive that it often will result in the vehicle being scraped instead of repaired. This is still a problem with the newest ev and makes these vehicles completely impractical for people unless they can afford to buy new and dump it on a poor unsuspecting individual shortly before any warranty is gone. This is going to result in a large environmental impact as vehicles life expectancy drops from 30yr or more down to around 10yr as the battery dies.
Not really. There is nothing about that battery worth $50K. The full replacement right now for a Tesla is $23K (CAD) and dropping. Expect more price reductions as more battery production comes on line in the next couple of years. On top of that newer models on better EVs have better battery chemistries and thermal management systems that extend the life of the battery by a lot.
On top of that there are places you an get the battery repaired with something like a 1% to 2% range loss.
The real lessons here are:
1 Carefully pick who you buy from.
2 Just like in gasoline cars, the dealership/manufacturer is always the most expensive option.
and yeah evs are good for the environment right???? LOL, there will be dead ev's piling up.
@@GerhardMack that $23k figure is likely the smallest battery for a model 3. I bet you need a battery for a model x extended range version it'll be a lot more that $23k but I guess if you can afford that car you can afford a battery for it
$50K for a battery replacement is so far off, it would have been reasonable to contact head office directly. I got Honda to fix my brother's out-of-warranty Honda for an oil leak. The initial quoted price was $5k. They agreed to do it for $2,5k and provided a rental car for the entire repair process (2 weeks) -- even though the car was out of warranty and was around 10 years old. Sometimes a manufacturing issue is so egregious it does not even meet the manufacturer's expectations. In order to not trigger a recall or expensive investigation or because they know the issue can exist, the car companies will just repair that unit which presents a defect.
@@GerhardMackyou act like 23k for a Tesla battery is cheap. What a joke. I can buy multiple engines for gas vehicle for that much. Ridiculous
Anyone who goes ahead and buys an EV, and hasn’t researched battery replacement deserves the pile of junk they bought.
I think it’s odd that people don’t think how much it costs to replace a lithium battery. At least $25k
Yes but just think of the couple of hundred dollars in gas savings over all those years, lol.
@rayray8687 actually, they're starting to report that the charging costs more than gas. Lol
@@lindacalderon6417: Yes, I was being facetious. Anyone who’s studied even basic physics knows there are energy losses at every step of the process. So if you burn a fossil fuel to turn turbines to create electricity and then ship it through cables and transformers to a charging station, then into the battery to run the car motor, you’re far better off to just burn a fossil fuel directly in the car. Electric cars are a bad idea just like they were in the 1920s. Realistically a fool’s paradise…which of course is why they’re so popular in political circles.
Every time I see these so called "nothing we can do" situations a 3rd party end up replacing the cells for pennies, saving thousands.
Dealers usually have no idea what they are doing.
Exactly. That is precisely what the UK owner of a 10 year old Leaf did here in Britain. He took his Leaf to a well known independent EV specialist, who refurbished the battery pack. It cost the Leaf owner £500....
Having taken the dealership training for chrysler's EV program a few years ago, EV battery refurbishing is too much of a liability for the dealership. Even When removing the battery pack on a Fiat 500e, if a single drop of coolant gets into the battery pack, the manufacturer can deny the covering warranty on the battery pack. Knowing the facts about dealing with warranty just makes it so much harder to buy a new car not just EV's. Dealerships will get warranty claims denied all the time. If you actually read your owner's manual it will tell you about maintaining warranty.
I'm still driving my 2009 Mazda GT. Drove my previous (and first vehicle) a 1994 Eagle Talon for 17 years until it basically fell apart. I wouldn't drive an EV if it was given to me free.
I would love to drive one but no way am I paying the bills .
I'd accept the free EV (or any free car) and then sell it :D
Congrats? I wouldn’t drive your 15 year old car if it were given to me for free. On my third EV btw.
@@patty109109Some people just roll thier leases into a new car every few years and do not understand the risk/savings of actually owning, keeping, and taking care of your own car.
I think the fundamental personality trait that determines this preference is if one feels the need to communicate status and perceived wealth/success to others..
You will own nothing and be happy!
Age is also a factor; older people are more likely to view money as a hard resource instead of a fluid abstract concept that forgives careless financial habits (shopping on credit, renting, or leasing).
The price difference between an EV (including the inevitable battery replacement) and second hand ICE cars is years, maybe a decade, of gas costs!
Think back to childhood. When you got a toy needing batteries, there was always this feeling of dread hanging over you. Knowing batteries have short lives, cost money to replace, have to keep buying more, and they eventually would leak and destroy your toy !
At least they never caught on fire
I’ve seen stories like this so many times. And you can places like California that want to try to force people to only purchase electric vehicles. Of course nobody says where the money is going to come from for this on top of that, the grid can’t even handle a regular summer day let alone everybody charging their vehicles
My friend purchased a BMW i3; after a four years of driving the range decreased to about 125KM a day (summer time)/100KM a day (winter time). He wanted to get a new battery put in and was quoted $10,000. He regrets the purchase.
LOL, the bmw i3 is so awful, HE'S A HE????
I was a KIA and Ford, Lincoln warranty manager for years. this is only the beginning of things to come with EV and Hybrid. The cost of tools, training and the resources to make the non servicable battery power plants is staggering. Its not going well.
It's good that this be made public NOW so everyone can know and push back against the "go green" push.
EV,vehicles,in remote areas,or in Northern climes,could very well,cost you your life!Common sense,think about it!!!
The other huge issue is that the parts mainly come from China.
It sounds like this man reaching out to local media gained him about $25k in compensation......well done.
Not having (being able to) stop at a gas station is a curse, not a blessing. When the power goes out... you're DIW.
The real lesson is never to buy from a company like Hyundai that is so anti-consumer. Quoting someone such an absurd cost for replacement of a part that is many times more than the resale value of the car even after replacement of such part, is basically telling the consumer to go F themselves and scrap a perfectly good car. This is why people are skeptical about EVs not a solution to the Climate disaster that we are all in already. Companies that act like this must be taken to task by regulators, and shouldn't get away with a coupon to A consumer when get caught.
That the entire value of the car is effectively contained in its battery is, typical for electric vehicles, to my knowledge.
Your comment became laughable when you said ....."......scrap a perfectly good car". You CAN'T be talking about Hyundai ....right? That car was NEVER "perfectly good".....EVER....especially IF Hyundai produced it.
Well said my man. 👍
NEVER buy a kia/hyundai. They lure you in with their warranty and interior. But you will very quickly find out why their cars are very shallow and why they warrant hate.
This encapsulates the EV experience perfectly
the EV "experience" is nothing but a fraud, n a scam.
Ridiculous. I'm never buying a Hyundai anytime soon because of this.
If he puts 25 to 30 thousand in his pocket use it to shop for a high quality gas vehicle with good mileage. My 2005 Toyota Camry does just fine except for repairs that are affordable. Oh, and its got just over 300,000 miles on it.
After doing a lot of research and putting the math to it, my wife and I got rid of both our 2018 electric hybrids. So glad they are gone now. Peace of mind on our transportation is back in place.
This means used EVs will have a poor resale value.
They do..
But some people dont notice because they refresh thier cars with leases or financing before they realise the long term costs of car ownership (they never own thier car).
nope, used EVs will have NO resale value. Nobody is going to buy one just to spend thousands more to replace the batteries. All these EV toys are heading to junkyard as scrap or parts.
@@frankm7707 2 or 3 year old ones with low mileage have decent resale value, although every change in government subsidies knocks them around. I agree about anything actually driven though. 8 year old EVs aren't worth driving home.
Low resale value means that you can buy them cheap. I looked into getting a used leaf: freight to Alberta costs half the value of a 2012 Leaf in Quebec (where they were subsidized for over 8 years).
Hey, but you’re saving the world. $50,000 is a small price to pay for helping to eliminate fossil fuels. Big Brother is so proud of you, and they want their sales tax for that battery allowance.
What about the disposal of the battery? What about the people digging the chemicals? What about the cost of repairs? What about the cost of charging?
And they wonder why people don't want to buy electric cars it cost to much
And they over charged the battery so the car battery overheats and explodes and the thing is it’s really hard for the Firemen to put out the fire because Electrical Fires keep lighting up it’s been a real pain for firemen to deal with.
The power of the media and the internet. Smart of Hyundai to salvage their reputation with the save at the end. EV , no gas but monster repair bills.
Not usually. They have great warranties. I have two EVs. They’re great. 6 years and going strong!
@@GoSolarPlzexactly but they shouldve helped this man with no problem
@@fabolousjada5070 agree
It has nothing to do Hyundai, warranty is warranty, everything is on par with paper and agreement. Dont buy EVs.
@@bedbath9056 Do you know anything about Evs? Ever driven one? Owned one? I’ve owned 4 since 2013 and currently have 2 since 2018. Amazing vehicles. I always tell people to buy an EV based on my experience as an owner
How do you drive 160,000 km? That’s insane.
It makes buying a used EV very economically dangerous. Essentially used EVs have no value. The car computer probably has the mileage warranty programmed in, and so the battery does no allow a failure code to be generated until the warranty mileage is exceeded.