Awesome In car action! Jochen Mass - Spa 1000kms - Porsche 962
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- 1st September 1985, Spa Francorchamps, Belgium - Thunder down the start-finish straight and through the famous dip at Eau Rouge with our in-car camera in the cockpit of top German driver Jochen Mass in the No.1 works Porsche 962.
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Through the first half of the race Mass dices with championship leader Derek Bell, Italian flyer Ricardo Patrese and Thierry Boutsen trying harder than ever in front of the home crowd.
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The sheer amount of talent witnessed in that 10 minutes was astounding.
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Old "Bus stop" was simply G R E A T ! ! ! Bring it BACK !
I love this version of Spa with the high curbs and very little runoff room. You had to be clean or you were dead. The path through the 2nd half of Blanchemont is almost scary.
epistte agree 100%. Much more of a challenge. Old bus stop rules. The current one is awful
@@jenscee7679 Well not awful but just not that fun as it used to be. The 2004-2006 bus stop, that one was plain awful... The one with the kink to the right before the actual chicane.
@@yoshikempenaers8621 I think 2004-2006 was better than the current one since braking for it was much more of a challenge.
Imagine clipping the kerb in blanchimont, its way freaking scary.
I have never seen an onboard video this good from the 80s. Super cool!
I do believe THIS is my all time favorite “onboard” video! And that’s including all my favorite Senna onboard videos! This has to be the most intense, raw and just pure onboard racing video ever recorded. Oh! And none of that crappy “wide angle lenses” stuff. THIS is what these turns and speeds really look like from the drivers perspective!
Agreed on that wide-angle crap. It really distorts the sense of speed.
@@davidjack3 im gonna check that out now 🙂
@@davidjack3 damn ha ha talk about snakey
Absolutely brutal,this was possibly more interesting than F1 at the time
I love that you can hear the tires squealing in the audio. Can't hear that in most racing videos!
Outstanding!! No Traction Control, no Power Steering, no ABS. Just real racing drivers driving real race cars on a real circuit. Bravo
When people say power steering or lack thereof, they fail to realize once the car is moving over 5mph or even that, it becomes a moot apparatus. It's only taxing when you're trying to maneuver in very slow speeds.
ABS and Traction Control are there... They are in your feet! and for the T.C., it’s a combo with what your ass is feeling... That’s why there is almost no padding in racing seats (and that a lot of sporty drivers prefer the German manufacturers with their “hard” seats)
That Ebutuoy Guy no the porsche 956 and the 962 really had heavy steering even at high speeds. Obviously its much more heavy at low speeds but these cars felt heavy even at high speeds
And no paddle shifters on the steering wheel ....
@@thatebutuoyguy788 Not in a race car. It's still difficult and adds up over the course of a race. Plus the higher steering ratio makes you have to move your hands around a lot more. Plus you have to take one hand off to shift...
Max Verstappen recently lost partial power steering when Vettel plowed into the back of him and sent him flying off a curb and he said he got quite the workout. Of course, it's a little different with the lower steering ratio of those cars... without any power steering you can't even drive them at race pace.
Wonderful!!! Eau Rouge taken this way with the squeeling tyres is astonishing!!!
I thought I was going to die at 8:00 through Eau Rouge. Always an epic track.
MENTAL! Jochen Mass is a Legendary Legend! On-It!
5:47 Are you shitting me.
Those were crazy times and these dudes had huge balls, dancing with death every time they got into their cars.
If this is Jochen Mass then huge respect to him, crazy stuff.
That's the "modestly reasonable chance I won't die today" lifestyle.
Very well said , took extreme guts to drive those monsters........
I know, it's insane.
The driver is Jochen Maas!
Kids nowadays call him "shit".. because he lost to James Hunt in an underpowered McLaren🤣
3:28 shows, how intelligent he was in a racing car. One of the best german drivers EVER!
Wicked.... I actually found myself leaning into the turns ! 😎
The way he takes Eau Rouge is insane
+Chris James I thought so too. I think some of it has to do with the curbing. It's much higher than it is now. Actually, the curbing is so even that the racing line is now straight over it, both on the left and the right. But the way it looks back then, you had to stay off the curbs and do more of a back-and-forth saw at the wheel, as a result. I could be wrong.
And what about the bus stop chicane and the next one, huh? Insane...
Far too slow for Bellof.
That’s raidillon actually
@@apexgt4 The first part is Eau Rouge, and that's where he is clearly very fast. he carries so much speed through the left hander, and uses to perfection the moment at the very bottom where it starts going uphill and the car "heavy" to brake and change direction. But he is very fast through Raidillon as well :-)
Even in 2019, still Amazing, thank you for sharing
Actually it's more amazing than modern stuff. Back when men were men and it was ok
No traction control, no AWD, no ABS, no sequential gearbox, no paddle shifters, no rev limiter and no simulators to aid training...this was the Golden Age and nearly the end of the era. These cars required maximum ability and focus at all times in order to wring out every last bit of speed and lower your lap times every hundredth of a second possible. This was the time of men and this was the time of machines.
The Lancia LC2 was clearly faster,but lacked reliability.On the other hand the Porsche 956,and the later safety-upgraded 962C were the enduring ones. These cars make today's F1 races look like the Wacky Races!
the LC2 came out of the turns and chicanes cleaner and therefor back onto the gas quicker...slight advantage with brakes and suspension...made it slightly faster on the course...entering, through and exiting
Also the added weight of the camera in the car. Not like it is today. The weight probably of the camera probably had an effect on performance.
@@deckard2665 It's possible that the team were able to compensate for the weight of the camera, and put the car on the grid at the minimum legal weight. The cameras in those days were quite large and fairly heavy, though, and this camera is clearly mounted high in the cockpit. That in itself, would be a disadvantage, due to the adverse effect on CG height.
huh? porsche 956 did unbeatable record in 35 years at nurburgring at qualifying 24 hour nurburgring
Porsche had ground effect going for them in those cars
Jesus, this has been the Time, when the skill and performance of a driver has count most. Love it
This popped up so often in my YT suggestions that I finally had to watch it.... hooray for normal angle lenses for in-car camera shots!!The sense of speed is phenomenal and way more relateable than most of today's wide angle shots. I could almost feel the lateral forces when watching this!
Most fun i've had in a while. Ten tenths and tires talkin back and, oh my, eau rouge!!! Jochen Mass is now on my list. Never saw this till now, awsome! Thanx!
The 80s-90s in all motorsport was insane. Limits where found in f1 endurance rally etc . Lives lost like at this race but amazing machines and races
jochen mass and porsche 962 , two of the greatest things to ever grace a racetrack . what a couple of absolute legends
Every now and then I just come back and watch this video. Some of the best on board ever.
No fuss, no drama, just damn good driving.
That Martini Lancia is quick.
They were quicker than Porsches but their ferrari engines never get reliable...
Outstanding video, who would have thought that the day would get so dark within a few hours...
It really takes an exceptional and lucky person to be successful at winning races in the sport back then and not die from it. All of these guys were tremendous athletes.
This was when men drove the car's NOT computer's. This is PURE talent!!!
Spa was INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL in '85 what a good time it should have been!! God bless Stefan Bellof
Wow - that was.... BRUTAL! Got every muscle in my body tensioned!
insane - and no paddle shift BS! Mass was a fantastic driver, the way he wrestles with the car, shifting with the right hand - and what a beast of a car - and what a sound!
No wonder the FIA stopped these sports cars from continuing into the 90s, they were as good or even better than the Formula One at the time. And Formula One couldn’t have that. This is the way racing should be today
this must be one of the best videos on TH-cam!!!! awesome!
How exciting, I was leaning into every turn while sitting in my chair watching it! I wish the whole race was recorded I would watch every second.
I've not seen this footage before. Talk about great stuff! I might be late to the party but thanks for making this available. This is edge-of-your-seat kinda racing... Love it!!
I'm stunned...... it's for me not possible to understand how fast these cars where...and Stefan was maybe the most talented driver ever.... i can watch this over and over and still be just as stunned every lap.... the speed trough the bus stop is........well i have no words....thank you God that i found this video
This is Jochen Mass, Not Stefan Bellof.
aha..thx for setting the record straight, /cheers
But the video will still catch twice the hits with its current title than with Jochen Mass in the headline
its good
Some of the best in-car I've seen. Modern racing is not even a patch on this for excitement and atmosphere!
Real cars and real drivers
Fake cras, they don´t exist, change my mind
Crazy Cupckake right, fake cras don’t exist but fake cars do
...da bekommt man vom zuschauen feuchte Hände... unglaublich!
Kills bugs fast!
Excellent footage! (subscribed)
R.I.P., Stefan Bellof
Wow, he could really drive! Great footage. Love the sounds.
this is what i have been looking for my whole life this video , this 10 minutes 8 seconds of complete and utter madness, the scream of the engine, the blow off valves of the turbo , Jackys car control man handling this beast of a car around the greatest racing circuit in the world Spa Francorchamps . this is what us car freaks live for.
Forget modern LMP or F1 - This is what racing should look like. Every second of this was exciting as hell. Skating through Eau Rouge like the car is on ice, frying the tyres out of half the corners as the turbos spool, throwing the car through tight chicanes like it's kart racing! These cars were absolute monsters, and the drivers had to fight to control them. I would rather watch group C any day over any modern circuit racing.
2:45 I think even people who rate themselves as racing fans would not be able to appreciate how breathtaking and dangerous this driving is, I'm speechless
Run little Lancia! What a epic race...
God I wish I lived in the house at La Source.
OhItsThat You'd never get any sleep, and it would take forever to get home from work and unload the groceries. It's better to visit.👍
thats why you got the groceries for a month like the fanatic that you are :DDDDDD
h20 I would get lots of sleep
I take the hous on the mulsane straight.
You guys are idiots. If you truly wanted that, you can put this video on loop and try falling asleep to that.
I really loathe nonsensical jokes / appraisement
Sensational! I am struck by how stable the camera is. The suspension of the Porsche must have been amazing, even cutting inside on the turns, there is no vibration. The track condition looks also to have been quite good. Just an amazing piece of history. To be In this car with this driver, and with the noise - unreal!!!
Regardless who is driving in that Video, Bellof or Mass, both were absolutely talented & gifted drivers during their active careers. I wish Stefan could still enjoy his immense popularity as Jochen is doing today. I met Jochen this Year in Stuttgart, an absolutely down to earth guy for which I admire him after all that success. And I will do so even more, if he is the driver behind the wheel in that absolutely stunning clip. Thank you very much for posting.
Golden era of sports car racing!
I could watch this for hours. Shame that there is not that much footage from inboard cameras in those days.
Best on board ever.
Absolutely ringing the cars neck.
Now thats what you call racing.
Proper raw racing. Love it. Those guys re giving it some welly
5:15 this downshifting 😍
Sublime footage, absolutely one my favourite tracks ever
Can't beat Bathurst bro lol
Gotta love that turbo sound!
Absolute raw-on-the-edge driving at Spa.. only the best from Duke video!!
Awesome film from the early days of the shortened Spa. Sort of a revival of the old days of road racing in appearance and the first few years of the new sports car series had an awesome field of carry overs from the 1960s and new stars. Bellof and Mass going thru E Rouge is mindblowing. A savage few flicks and holds as Mass takes it fast.
Racing this close & clean has to be an amazing experience
This video is so awesome, I've watched it countless times and it always puts a smile on my face, the cars, sound, circuit and driving are all amazing, just love it 👌
Real men, real cars, real racing!!
That was fricking AWESOME!!!!! thanks for sharing. I sat in one of the 962 about 2000, amazing machine
Wow did nobody tell these guys that a 1000km race is a marathon not a sprint! Full send all the way!
Real men with real balls, driving real cars at a real circuit...
my absolute favorite cars. Peak of Motorsport
The old bus stop would have been great fun to drive, mad respect for the guys who conquered these beasts, also love the run at 5:34 and the way that the back marker let Mass by before radillon (idk how to spell it 🤦♂️)
arguably the best track footage sport-scar racing in existence
SPA such a beautiful track and beautiful to watch masters of their class, thx for upload
👽Damned best incar I've seen.Thank you.
Racers at this level and from this era are truly a special breed. They can’t allow themselves to become preoccupied by it, but they know death is as close by as the tiniest mistake.
The way the car is carried into Eaudillon (Eau Rouge-Raidillon) is outstanding!
Simply the best video. Stefan was one of the very best but even Ken Tyrrell could not control him. Amazing video ; exit to the Bus Stop - straight at the bloody barriers !! Down hill to Pouhoun (?) unbelievable speed. Group C was beyond EPIC & so were the drivers.
Someone bloody good in the Lancia-Ferrari ; Ricardo Patrese maybe ? If it is the Ickxs car then Jackie was epic to ( but we know that surely ? )
Now these were the drivers that knew how to drive. Full respect
seriously awesome footage
Fantastic just balls out race cars no driver aids then!......and superb footage with legendary driver jochan mass at the wheel!
Now that is a racing driver at work.......awesome.
Great days of group c, remember as a kid going to brands and silverstone for the 1000k's, Porsche, sauber, jaguar, lancia.........fantastic
back when driver had to " manual" shift, and be smooooth& quick, lap after lap......
J Clm he had a clutch to
Gotta be honest, Sequential gearbox is miles better than manual, the way the car shifts so quickly is something that a human with a manual can never match
@@Elinzar AI is so much better than human, go sit on couch
@@Elinzar look up for e46m3gtr driven by Hans Joachim Stuck and You'll see that he shifts like a sequential.
@@Elinzar True, a sequential box is faster than a manual. Great for racing, but for me not as much fun on the streets/roads.
I always rooted for Derek Bell in these days..
The last days of hairy chested drivers?, yeah, some really brave driving...😎
Spectacular footage and mad driving skills.
Wow 😲 amazing driving! Spa looked so different too back then.
Stefan was pure talent! As much as Senna (and I am brazilian...)
Stefan was such a talented driver. It's shame he died so early in his career.
He was a risk taker, and that is what got him killed, and bad luck
Daniel Flores It's a shame he got MURDERED so early in his career. Perhaps... The fastest driver ever.
Thank you Jacky Ickx, hope you burn in hell you miserable piece of shit
thesantiso Eau Rouge is not meant for the kind of maneuver Stefan attempted. He had all of Kemmel to attempt an overtake. He was fast, but very hot-headed. Ickx is not to blame for his death, he had the line and Stefan should've backed off. Shame that he died nevertheless
thesantiso Outrageous statement. I understand that you are a fan of his but Stefan made a terrible decision to pass in an impossible place. I've seen the in car camera from Ickx's car and he can take no blame whatsoever. He was online, not blocking, Stefan ran into him and the impact into the Armco was not survivable. A racing accident brought on by a questionable decision by a driver. I liked Stefan and was sad about his death but to blame Ickx is crazy.
*****
You do know what the vulgar term "gentleman racer" means right? Gentleman racer means a man racer who would not make you hit the wallride for making a stupid pass, no matter how stupid it was.
Ickx, is a piece of shit. I'm not balming 100% him. But he knew he could have avoided that, and he yet decided to press on. He was slower, he will always be... Maybe that's why this piece of shit had to touch Bellof's rear end
You need to see these cars on the old, long Spa course. Brian Redman told me the G forces were so bad it crazed the plexiglass windscreen and he drove the then fastest race ever run looking out the side windows at barriers and ad banners to navigate the track!😮
First of all; YES !!! Awesome video (i'm just discovering it) Comments are a bit confused on "who and when". I'll try to summarize. This is start of SPA 1000km 1985. Onboard Porsche 962C #1 (Mass-Ickx grid position 6th) passing one by one Lancia LC2 #5 (futur winner) at 0:28; Porsche 956B NewMan #7 at 0:37; Porsche 956B Schiesser #19 (Bellof) at 0:48 and Porsche 962C #2 (Bell-Stuck) at 2:53. Pole Lancia LC2 #4 stays ahead. Check this: www.sonuma.com/archive/accident-mortel-aux-1000-km-de-spa-francorchamps
This is Belgian TV report on Bellof's fatal accident. You see clearly cars at the start incl. part of this video. Hope this will help
Jacky Ickx,
un homme simple élégant
Et un pilote juste EXCEPTIONNEL 🎩
Spa un des plus beaux circuits du monde 😎
Incredible! These guys were seriously talented and brave.
Spa at the good old Layout. And Look how Close the barrier at fast corners. Wow thanks for Upload
that awesome turbo in the background sounds amazing :D
Ickx and Bell, Mass and Stuck ?
Joined from 1983 by the short lived flame of Stefan Bellof.
God bless.
You know how much I really love the 962C But Onboard? That Just AWESOME!
Thank you for the ride sir.
Taking that double apex left hander without lifting lap after lap is testament to a fine driver.
God I wish I cold take that corner at speed in a Group C car, that would be bucket list shit.
A joy to watch, thanks for uploading it.
Brilliant footage,thanks
*Spa-Francorchamps* is such an awesome track... you actually feel like you’re going somewhere unlike all these frelling *Herman Tilke* tracks that are just _”squiggly bit, straight, squiggly bit with a corner _*_inspired_*_ by a good track, straight, squiggly bit...”._
Thank the FIA. They mandate the design of most major tracks or, rather any track that wishes to be FIA certified. They make the tracks boring or, less interesting, in the interest of driver safety. Shorter straights, turns of a certain radius, maximum and minimum banking, are all products of FIA mandates. Chicanes on The Mulsanne are a great example.
You know one of most beloved modern tracks was made by Tilke?
Its my favourite. Its the most beautiful racetrack in the world, in my opinion. Mugello is the 2nd (though that has almost always been used by MotoGP only)...
Amazing to see this footage - the 80s doesn’t feel that old to me but man they were still crazy compared to today’s super safe racing. Spa really wasn’t too different back then cept for Bus Stop
This is just Pure Fantasticness.
One of my favourite circuits of all time
Duke !!! THanks !!! this is incredible ! onboard from Stefan Bellof (RIP). only thanks.
These cars are the real toys! Great video.
Unless I am very much mistaken this was the race Bellof died in. If so, the camera car is a 962 not a 956 and it is probably at this apparent early stage in the race, being driven by Jochen Mass who was Jacky Ickx's team-mate. As other comments have suggested Bellof's car appears to be the one overtaking the camera car at 3:55 although at this stage in the race it is probably Thierry Boutsen at the wheel. Fantastic footage none the less.
The car Bellof crashed and died in is just ahead of his at 0:43. He comes up to him again a few minutes later. He is behind it again at 5:37.
Correct, the Schiesser 962