Sky coverage was the best of the night. Good analysis, showed plenty of counts and genuinely interesting discussion. Burnham and Davidson were excellent. Kay Burley actually looked like she was enjoying it, unlike an anchor on another channel.
The reaction to the exit poll was hilarious, I think sky had by far the best coverage of the election I watched and listen to most of it. Exit poll overestimated the Tories and Reform by 10 and underestimated the Lib Dems by 11 and Greens by 2, so it was even a better result for the left then with the exit poll said. I wonder why we can’t have a similar exit poll in the United States
I would imagine the United States can’t have a national exit poll due to the different time zones, which means various states on the East Coast will have already counted a significant number of votes / been projected for one candidate before the polls on the West Coast closes. Trying to make a national projection on the basis of the East Coast states might also have an adverse effect on how those in the West Coast vote, and tv networks would probably be blamed for that.
All the talk was the swing required for a Labour majority of just one seat was 12.7%. But the final swing was only 10.8% and they got a majority of 180. My observation is it's not necessarily the swing itself that counts, but how the swing is distributed. All Labour needed for a landslide was the collapse of the Conservative vote! Labour lost thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of votes to Gaza supporting candidates. Something else that hasn't been mentioned was the voter ID rule this time. Most of the people who didn't have the correct ID would most likely have voted Labour, which also accounts somewhat for lower turnout. Take all of those factors away and Labour would have vastly increased their share of the vote and the swing would have been at record levels.
Voter ID laws don't actually work that well in surpressing the vote though, even when in America where they make acquiring the ID even more difficult than here. So we can't explain it away with that at all. Starmer was never going to do better than Corbyn because he was simply not offering anything compelling or transformative. People were simply fed up of the tories after 14 years in power and that was by far the most cited reason for people voting Labour, not that they actually liked any of labour's policies. Corbyn individually may have been unpopular due to the right wing smear campaign against him, but his comparatively radical policies inspired many to vote labour regardless. Whether people loved or hated him he wasn't just another dishonest manipulator. Starmer meanwhile was basically just apeing the tories' ridiculous rhetoric demonising migrants, fiscal spending rules, tougher policing, and performative nationalism. He's just another establishment politician and people sensed it, hence why his personal mandate is so weak. He literally only won because of almost half the former tory vote going to Reform UK and allowing Labour to come through the middle in otherwise unwinnable seats. And of course they also benefited from the SNP collapse in Scotland.
@@ChavvyCommunist He won because he went for seats in areas not popular for Labour. Corbyn always targeted more safe seats so won more votes there. Always a problem and a populist way to do politics. Great short term strategy not so good long term. The JC group if they want one need to target those outside their bubble to win votes to be electable outside of safe seats. I know as I helped JC I tried to explain it would lose us the election but I was not listened too. I was not around or in the party for Starmer but it is why he won.
I’ve watched most of the coverages back, Andy Burnham was sometimes a bit too interrupty, but otherwise Sky were easily the best of all the Broadcasters.
Some TV channels got the sentiment so wrong.... it was not about a "holy moment to celebrate in democracy," it was about "gosh... I don't know if the really bad people would go." Sky News got the whole sentiment right. Also, the anchor team showed a lot of genuine personality, and that's why we watch TV nowadays.
As a Labour voter I feel betrayed by Starmer. How dare they put in their manifesto what they would do only to do things they made no mention of doing such as stopping the winter fuel payment for the elderly. I dread to think what else they will do to the detriment of the people.
This was a terrible programme, largely due to Kay Burley's chairing -- when it was not chaotic with everybody talking over each other , it was Burley trying to steal the limelight so that people like Beth Rigby couldn't get a word in. And Ed Conway's graphics sections were just confusing not clarifying.
2024 United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland General Election 650 Seats Total - 326 Seats needed for Majority PARTY: # of Seats Won (Popular Vote %) CON: 121 (23.7%) ☑️LAB: 411 (33.7%) LD: 72 (12.2%) REF: 5 (14.3%) SNP: 9 (2.5%) SF: 7 (0.7%) DUP: 5 (0.6%) PC: 4 (0.7%) GPWE: 4 (6.4%) OTHERS: 12 (5.2%) Swing (CON to LAB): 10.8% Swing (CON to LD): 10.3% Swing (CON to REF): 16.2% Majority (LAB): 172 Seats Turnout: 60% (-7.5% from 2019) Result: -Sir Ker Starmer to become Prime Minister. -Labour Party Majority Landslide. -Ends 14 years of Conservative Rule. -First Labour Victory in 19 years. -2nd Largest Labour Majority. (1997 being the Largest). Notable BBC/ITV/Sky TV Exit Poll Errors: CON: Overestimated by 10 seats. REF: Overestimated by 7 seats. LD: Underestimated by 11 seats. GPWE: Underestimated by 2 seats.
Time stamps - 2:00 actual start of coverage. 6:29:06 - reaction to Ashworth loosing seat. 7:09:40 - Theresa Coffeey loose reaction - to Labour not Green Party. 7:56:14 - Labour formally wins
Streeting & Phillps just about maintained thier seats & Reform came second in over 100 constituencies. 500,000 more votes & theydve been the opposition Let's hope Reform win next time
@@chriswatson3464 so economic responsibility is monopolised by the Tories? That's why Labour keeps losing elections - interest rates are 5% so the era of easy borrowing is over for now
Because they’ve been brainwashed by propaganda and a bunch of lies. Everyone knows Labour won’t do anything different than what we’ve been accustomed to for the last 14 years of Conservative.
Sky coverage was the best of the night. Good analysis, showed plenty of counts and genuinely interesting discussion. Burnham and Davidson were excellent. Kay Burley actually looked like she was enjoying it, unlike an anchor on another channel.
@@JonVoid37Kay Burley isn’t to the left of anything. Sky is famously a centre right channel
Sky edges BBC for me. BBC was all over the place with too much purple
It was good except for the way that Kay Burley kept talking over the results as they were being announced.
Best election coverage. Better than Channel 4, BBC and ITV. Really entertaining
chanel 4 had to google the exit poll and write it down on paper useless...
@@paulmasters9306 Because unlike BBC ITV and Sky they do not have access to the exit poll data before it is announced at 10pm.
Thanks for the upload
This is so much more dynamic and declaration heavy compared to BBC. On actual night I watched BBC Scotland as got bored with UK version
The reaction to the exit poll was hilarious, I think sky had by far the best coverage of the election I watched and listen to most of it. Exit poll overestimated the Tories and Reform by 10 and underestimated the Lib Dems by 11 and Greens by 2, so it was even a better result for the left then with the exit poll said. I wonder why we can’t have a similar exit poll in the United States
shame the liberals couldn't beat hunt though
@@ANDY1985UK2011I was shocked by that
@@TimmyTheTinmanShame Starmer kept his seat.
I would imagine the United States can’t have a national exit poll due to the different time zones, which means various states on the East Coast will have already counted a significant number of votes / been projected for one candidate before the polls on the West Coast closes. Trying to make a national projection on the basis of the East Coast states might also have an adverse effect on how those in the West Coast vote, and tv networks would probably be blamed for that.
@@ANDY1985UK2011 he used his own money to hold on to his seat which sounds so wrong imo
All the talk was the swing required for a Labour majority of just one seat was 12.7%. But the final swing was only 10.8% and they got a majority of 180.
My observation is it's not necessarily the swing itself that counts, but how the swing is distributed. All Labour needed for a landslide was the collapse of the Conservative vote! Labour lost thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of votes to Gaza supporting candidates.
Something else that hasn't been mentioned was the voter ID rule this time. Most of the people who didn't have the correct ID would most likely have voted Labour, which also accounts somewhat for lower turnout. Take all of those factors away and Labour would have vastly increased their share of the vote and the swing would have been at record levels.
Voter ID laws don't actually work that well in surpressing the vote though, even when in America where they make acquiring the ID even more difficult than here. So we can't explain it away with that at all.
Starmer was never going to do better than Corbyn because he was simply not offering anything compelling or transformative. People were simply fed up of the tories after 14 years in power and that was by far the most cited reason for people voting Labour, not that they actually liked any of labour's policies. Corbyn individually may have been unpopular due to the right wing smear campaign against him, but his comparatively radical policies inspired many to vote labour regardless. Whether people loved or hated him he wasn't just another dishonest manipulator.
Starmer meanwhile was basically just apeing the tories' ridiculous rhetoric demonising migrants, fiscal spending rules, tougher policing, and performative nationalism. He's just another establishment politician and people sensed it, hence why his personal mandate is so weak. He literally only won because of almost half the former tory vote going to Reform UK and allowing Labour to come through the middle in otherwise unwinnable seats. And of course they also benefited from the SNP collapse in Scotland.
@@ChavvyCommunist He won because he went for seats in areas not popular for Labour. Corbyn always targeted more safe seats so won more votes there. Always a problem and a populist way to do politics. Great short term strategy not so good long term. The JC group if they want one need to target those outside their bubble to win votes to be electable outside of safe seats. I know as I helped JC I tried to explain it would lose us the election but I was not listened too. I was not around or in the party for Starmer but it is why he won.
The bits between 6:30am-7am is missing here.
best coverage from sky news
The way they gasped over Jonathan Ashworth made me laugh
I’ve watched most of the coverages back, Andy Burnham was sometimes a bit too interrupty, but otherwise Sky were easily the best of all the Broadcasters.
Some TV channels got the sentiment so wrong.... it was not about a "holy moment to celebrate in democracy," it was about "gosh... I don't know if the really bad people would go." Sky News got the whole sentiment right. Also, the anchor team showed a lot of genuine personality, and that's why we watch TV nowadays.
7:18:22 Shapps, gone. Chalk, gone. Mordaunt, gone. And so on.
Typical John Redwood. Totally bonkers and totally out of touch.
As a Labour voter I feel betrayed by Starmer. How dare they put in their manifesto what they would do only to do things they made no mention of doing such as stopping the winter fuel payment for the elderly. I dread to think what else they will do to the detriment of the people.
The exit poll 1:01:45
Our version of Canada 1993
6:35:33 is oliver behind the returning officer?
It would be. I was watching on a channel showing a different camera, and remember him there.
1:01:57
kate celebrates w andy
This was a terrible programme, largely due to Kay Burley's chairing -- when it was not chaotic with everybody talking over each other , it was Burley trying to steal the limelight so that people like Beth Rigby couldn't get a word in. And Ed Conway's graphics sections were just confusing not clarifying.
2024 United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland General Election
650 Seats Total - 326 Seats needed for Majority
PARTY: # of Seats Won (Popular Vote %)
CON: 121 (23.7%)
☑️LAB: 411 (33.7%)
LD: 72 (12.2%)
REF: 5 (14.3%)
SNP: 9 (2.5%)
SF: 7 (0.7%)
DUP: 5 (0.6%)
PC: 4 (0.7%)
GPWE: 4 (6.4%)
OTHERS: 12 (5.2%)
Swing (CON to LAB): 10.8%
Swing (CON to LD): 10.3%
Swing (CON to REF): 16.2%
Majority (LAB): 172 Seats
Turnout: 60% (-7.5% from 2019)
Result:
-Sir Ker Starmer to become Prime Minister.
-Labour Party Majority Landslide.
-Ends 14 years of Conservative Rule.
-First Labour Victory in 19 years.
-2nd Largest Labour Majority. (1997 being the Largest).
Notable BBC/ITV/Sky TV Exit Poll Errors:
CON: Overestimated by 10 seats.
REF: Overestimated by 7 seats.
LD: Underestimated by 11 seats.
GPWE: Underestimated by 2 seats.
Liabour win
Time stamps -
2:00 actual start of coverage.
6:29:06 - reaction to Ashworth loosing seat.
7:09:40 - Theresa Coffeey loose reaction - to Labour not Green Party.
7:56:14 - Labour formally wins
Nothing to celebrate here....more doom for the poor British population, same crap just a different Party name
reform will get its chance to expect them come to power in its first election was too deluded for some
Let's hope Reform have a shot at winning next election
After the LE Pen disaster though it doesn't look good
Streeting & Phillps just about maintained thier seats & Reform came second in over 100 constituencies. 500,000 more votes & theydve been the opposition
Let's hope Reform win next time
@@markjones4704 Reform are literally the same.
@@user-vx9lx9hy4v Party of ex-Tories. No difference.
Labour wins a massively oversized majority on just one third of the vote. So happy to see democracy is so healthy, progessive and inclusive in the UK.
And is that Labour’s fault? Or the electorate’s for not voting?? It’s not their fault the Tories have killed everyone’s trust in politics.
Labour ist coming home!
@@christianfunke4697 But they kinda did
Nothing like having a non bia's hosts...
Yeah the Scottish Conservatives and the Manchester Labour Mayor. Also a couple of Tory MPs appeared. So slightly slanted Tory but mostly unbiased.
Why on earth did people vote Labour 🙄
To get the tories out of course
Get the Tories out, house building, rail nationalisation, and stability to prevent another economic Truss screw up
@@callumboscoe8685 but labour are really right wing and are behaving like Tories now.
@@chriswatson3464 so economic responsibility is monopolised by the Tories? That's why Labour keeps losing elections - interest rates are 5% so the era of easy borrowing is over for now
Because they’ve been brainwashed by propaganda and a bunch of lies. Everyone knows Labour won’t do anything different than what we’ve been accustomed to for the last 14 years of Conservative.
8:01:17 Andy Burnham proving what a total 🔔 end he really is.
3505000 billions tirlons millions billions dollars for each 1babez 〽️
1:01:55 Exit poll 😂😂😂
The dramatic music 😂😂😂😂
😩😩😩
Did someone have the big O?