The Cameron Years - Episode 1 - A Huge Fight on My Hands

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  • Drawing on an exclusive interview with David Cameron, this series explores his leadership, the events that led to the EU referendum and his impact on our political landscape.
    The first episode looks at how David Cameron went from riding high following his successful 2015 election campaign to offering his own resignation to the British public on the steps of Downing Street just over a year later.
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  • @Martin_Vienna
    @Martin_Vienna ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Can't wait for the Truss Month Documentary on the BBC 😂

    • @lindymcbroom953
      @lindymcbroom953 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It would not last very long!

    • @marksandsmith6778
      @marksandsmith6778 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Search for
      State of chaos
      3 parts political lunacy

    • @henfc456
      @henfc456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lindymcbroom953more like a short or a 5 minute video haha

    • @maxsch8454
      @maxsch8454 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      They’ll upload that as TH-cam Short

    • @GenjiShimada.
      @GenjiShimada. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That will last even shorter than her PMship or the lettice

  • @henfc456
    @henfc456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Disgrace how Johnson thought of his own political career and left us in a mess well done mate 👏

    • @Tom_murray89
      @Tom_murray89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He only thought about himself and not the country

  • @Tom_murray89
    @Tom_murray89 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This now feels like bygone age

  • @JKLoans
    @JKLoans ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Years on and the country is *still suffering* for this. Whatever Cameron's legacy might have been (he was far from perfect but he did some thing right), it will forever be tainted by this clusterfuck that he unleashed on his country.

    • @nicokern7615
      @nicokern7615 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      as much as I may disagree with him about his policies, Brexit and all the political, social and economic mess it's produced were NOT David Cameron's fault
      Letting the voters decide on an important matter like this is never wrong, and if the people vote for something which leads to bad consequences afterwards, it's their problem
      The British have caused this mess themselves, not Cameron

    • @DTL9164
      @DTL9164 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't say ot better myself.

    • @yao052
      @yao052 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nicokern7615i would it's the conservative party who caused this mess.

    • @simonzonenblick395
      @simonzonenblick395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicokern7615 It will forever be a matter of opinion. What one person sees as the wrong decision, another will say was right. We had an election just a year after , and overwhelming numbers voted for pro-Brexit parties, even though one party stood on a very clear policy of a 2nd ref. I voted for that party, so this isn't my pro-Brexit bias talking. There was a chance to remain, and unlike the ref which strictly speaking was advisory the GE result was binding. Both main party leaders emphasized their manifestos' Brexit credentials, and made clear their other policies were largely contextual to leaving the EU. 75% of voters endorsed them. As if that wasn't emphatic enough, as we all know the 2019 GE was won by a party literally staking virtually its entire campaign for government precisely on a promise to leave, and they won a landslide. True, the Opposition were dire, but again there were other options available, should sufficient numbers have wanted to remain.

    • @josephkerrigan733
      @josephkerrigan733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nicokern7615 So why don't they let the public decide to have an election? It's right to let the public decide to leave the EU and plunge the country into disaster through lies and deceit but letting the public decide they don't want the current government is something that you can only have every 5 years? Regardless of how corrupt, evil and damaging the current government is they get 5 years to do whatever the fuck they want while insisting it's for the good of the British people as they cut taxes for the rich and shit on the poor. Great.

  • @Bishopaaronbeachy
    @Bishopaaronbeachy ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Most of these former politicians have no idea or self awareness of how their policies effect the average citizen. It’s stunning actually. All of these arguments suggest that they haven’t really considered why so many people voted to leave. Perhaps it wouldn’t have needed to get that far if they had a clue

  • @flashtheoriginal
    @flashtheoriginal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I dont blame Cameron for giving the people their say. Its democracy and my opinion counts as much as everyone else.
    I do blame him for pissing off as soon as "he" lost. Stay on, fight, make a difference, you chick-chick-chicken

    • @Monica23881
      @Monica23881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He should have stayed and stood his ground as in "The people have spoken."

    • @rayc9539
      @rayc9539 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I somewhat blame him. He proposed the referendum as a tactic to win a second term. He was so arrogant to think that remain would definitely win, that he didn't consider it risky. Hence why we are in the mess we are in now. We can thank him for austerity and introducing Brexit.

    • @jaaput
      @jaaput 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rayc9539 Just thank yourselves. It was not Cameron that voted over 17 million times in favour of leave, it was half of the electorate that was willing, able and allowed to vote that day. You should aim your anger at people like Jacob Rees Mogg and “The people of this country have had enough of experts” Michael Gove, and of course Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage. All of them selling fairytales, to remainers dumb enough to believe them. And why were they selling those fairytales? To please the fraction in their respective parties that represented the powerful ultra-rich of the UK. They are the ones that really wanted a hard brexit, just to avoid the new EU taxation rules. The power and influence that they have over your country is not healthy, and one of the things that, as a population, you should try to get grip on.

    • @Tom_murray89
      @Tom_murray89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brexit has ruined our country

  • @Sonsequence
    @Sonsequence ปีที่แล้ว +13

    His trouble is that once he's convinced himself of the logic of an idea he can't drop it, no matter how many people plead otherwise. Very bad at course correction. It's stunning to see that neither Gove nor IDS actually wanted the vote and Boris didn't even genuinely want to leave.

  • @TinTin01234
    @TinTin01234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The irony of the remain campaign explaining how much worse each household would be, and now the country is actually suffering

  • @bruiSER-
    @bruiSER- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    'we didn't want to leave' but he is now amongst a cabinet table who are full on leave and working with MP's who are pro-leave. Why is he back? What has brought him back? A question nobody really knows.

  • @ryant9876
    @ryant9876 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I don't agree with choices Cameron made, I didnt and still don't agree with his policies, but one thing I do miss about the Cameron years, was he was a strong leader and he actually believed in integrity and I truely believed he made his decisions to try to make the country better or solve a big issue. I have a similar view of Teresa May. She was more just a leader at the wrong time.
    As for every other leader Since, they have no credibility, accountability, no integrity and most of what they've done because of themselves or the select few.
    And we need to get this next election right, not only for the right policies, but also a strong leader that has integrity, going to be credible on the world stage.

    • @Tom_murray89
      @Tom_murray89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree Tory leaders since him haven’t cut it and left our country in a worse position

  • @sibionic
    @sibionic ปีที่แล้ว +41

    There was absolutely NO serious public pressure to call a referendum on Europe. It was an entirely a Conservative party obsession inflicted on the nation.

    • @Bishopaaronbeachy
      @Bishopaaronbeachy ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol 17 million people voted for it, I’d say they were well founded in what you call their “obsession”

  • @nigelbenn4642
    @nigelbenn4642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Thatcher, Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak good old Tories wrecking the UK since 1979.

    • @calastyphon3414
      @calastyphon3414 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Major as well

    • @PBI45
      @PBI45 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@calastyphon3414 out of all of them he was the least shit, but then again I never lived under him so I've only got hindsight and history books to draw from

    • @calastyphon3414
      @calastyphon3414 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PBI45 not a high bar but I'd also point he was the one who privatised the railwausb

    • @PBI45
      @PBI45 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@calastyphon3414 True but I get the sense from him that he was a man out of his depth trying his best. I don't know from personal experience but from stuff I've seen by 1997 the economy was doing better than it was when Major picked up the country in 1990.

    • @tomlevick2935
      @tomlevick2935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@calastyphon3414the difference was that despite his politics ( and I don't agree with them), he was actually a nice guy.

  • @CarlosDeSanta
    @CarlosDeSanta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Who’s here now he’s foreign secretary

    • @vincentsmit1935
      @vincentsmit1935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's so over

    • @ChuckY229
      @ChuckY229 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Call me Lord Dave Your Majesty"

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat หลายเดือนก่อน

      And laughing at how shortly even that lasted. Piggy Boy Cameron was even useless at that.

  • @DTL9164
    @DTL9164 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm a remainder and now a rejoiner and it hurt to watch this documentary. I strongly thibk the remain camapign could have been much more successful if they did the folllwing 4 things:
    1 Make a strong economic case for staying in the EU, often promoted by expert advice and research from George Osborne
    2 Make a unitarian case for being a member of the EU
    3 Focused on the positives of immigration
    4 Debunked the lies and misinformstion promoted bu the leave campaign
    Ever since the referendum and Cameron's resignation, the Conservative Party has become a much darker and much more hard-right place.

    • @quailking8265
      @quailking8265 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Totally agree. But remember that austerity motivated many to vote for Brexit anyway, and made it harder to reassure those in disadvantaged areas about benefits of EU membership.
      However, those points you made should be done in a future rejoin campaign in a second EU referendum in the future...

    • @henfc456
      @henfc456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just hate the fact it’s always easier to argue for change, because people make stupid claims and hypothetically promises and stupid people see those and vote off the top of their head. I think it was disaster to even call it because the ordinary person including me wouldn’t have truly known all the stuff the eu does for us. REJOIN THE EU!

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't sell the positives of immigration with a lawless flood of illegal aliens and fake asylum seekers going on at the same time. Impossible.

    • @maxsch8454
      @maxsch8454 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They tried to do all of those to a degree. Ultimately the problem is that there is little to no emotional attachment to the EU in the UK. It was always a pragmatic arrangement and people reached a point where they didn’t think it was working for them.

  • @simonzonenblick395
    @simonzonenblick395 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its interesting that he includes "our position in the Single Market safeguarded" as one of the objectives he most wished to secure and thought would be most popular, when in fact quite a lot of Brexiteers wanted us out of the Single Market, and see membership of it as being almost EU membership by proxy. Members of the public as well as politicians, that is.

    • @kitmoore9969
      @kitmoore9969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brexiteers wanted out of the freedom of movement, not the single market. Brexit wasn't even an issue until the EU was formed.

  • @GWills-ys6rd
    @GWills-ys6rd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The outcome of the EU Referendum for the Conservative Party is exactly what they were trying to avoid. It may take decades for the party to recover, much like the United Kingdom as a whole due to the catastrophic consequences of BREXIT!

    • @flashtheoriginal
      @flashtheoriginal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But that doesnt mean the electorate shouldnt have their say.
      Do not despise your fellow Citizens the right to legally express an opinion. The Eurozone crisis was the writing on the wall. If the EU had been run better, with full transparency and respect for the right of veto, then droves of Englishmen and Englishwomen might not have given the emerging European Super-State such a gigantic V-Sign.
      We are out
      We are still unpacking the bureaucratic mess
      We can see the prizes
      ....but poor Government has pissed our opportunities up the wall

  • @warwickbull5559
    @warwickbull5559 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In an alternative timeline when Remain won the EU referendum in 2016, Cameron would have stayed on as prime minster until 2020 at least, because that is when it would have been 5 years since the 2015 general election, now of course that have meant we would have had an election year as the pandemic was going on, how differently would Cameron have handled the pandemic differently to Johnson?

  • @jediofswtor5738
    @jediofswtor5738 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If he had not called that referendum he would have probably been one of the greatest prime ministers In my view. And he would have lasted all the way up to probably 2021 as I doubt there would have been a general election during 2020 during covid. It's a shame though that his legacy as PM will be forever marred by the brexit votes

    • @marksc111
      @marksc111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      please, he's an over-confident dimwit

    • @azazelssprachen
      @azazelssprachen หลายเดือนก่อน

      Na, he made consistently poor decisions and if the Brexit referrendum hadn't tripped him up other things would've

  • @BibinBCherian
    @BibinBCherian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Cameron seems an honorable and decent man.

    • @adamgrimsley2900
      @adamgrimsley2900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes just not very good

  • @matthewscott8947
    @matthewscott8947 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Criminal. Absolutely criminal.

  • @TheTristanmarcus
    @TheTristanmarcus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Jeremy Paxman once described Cameron as the worst PM since Lord North (who lost the American colonies for George III) which was probably true at the time, but he didn't know about the shit-show that was to come afterwards 😢💩💩 #makethetorieshistory

  • @psidot
    @psidot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well I hope the majority of people in the UK who voted to leave are happy with what they ultimately ended up with.

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If the EU had shown any willingness to reform we’d never have left.

    • @lovelondon806
      @lovelondon806 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly!!!! That is what I’ve always said. Their pigheadedness and Cameron waffling on about coming back from Brussels with a good deal etc made it an easy choice to leave

    • @The_Orgazoid
      @The_Orgazoid ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That’s not a very good reason to leave if it has made your lives poorer and ironically more restricted than before.

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@The_Orgazoid Any organisation that is unwilling to reform through sheer arrogance/intransigence (delete as applicable) and any organisation that seeks to punish those that dare to leave is not an organisation that a) deserves to succeed or b) deserves to have any members.

    • @nicokern7615
      @nicokern7615 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@BossySwan​Would the UK be delighted to see Scotland leave?!
      I bet not!
      I'm sure that in the event Scotland leaving the UK, the Westminster parliament wouldn't just accept every political wish of the Scots
      So according to your point A), the UK wouldn't deserve any success either
      No political entity will be happy to see a part or member of it leave, the idea that the EU should've just let the UK leave and accept all its wishes is utterly laughable

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicokern7615 Scotland isn’t leaving as they voted to stay, so your point is moot.

  • @radomu1
    @radomu1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This documentary isn't about the Cameron Years. It's about the last year or so concerning the referendum.

    • @lucastaylor2321
      @lucastaylor2321 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes quite misleading the title.
      But it's more interesting.

  • @razabadass
    @razabadass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanns

  • @DevonPixie1991
    @DevonPixie1991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This came up on my suggestions now he’s back as foreign secretary

  • @Bishopaaronbeachy
    @Bishopaaronbeachy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine if Cameron would have stayed on and followed the will of the people. He would have been one of the greatest pms of all time

    • @tld7195
      @tld7195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we should have had a soft Brexit with customs union etc

    • @Monica23881
      @Monica23881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The referendum was in fact following the will of the people. A majority voted to leave. Astounding the element of the public not actually wanting their liberties.

    • @user-jx8xf2pk5c
      @user-jx8xf2pk5c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Monica23881 What is the 'will of the people' when the 'majority' were completely misinformed? Brexit was a disaster and completely undermined our democracy.

  • @samuelcarnall309
    @samuelcarnall309 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Cameron and Osborne both come across as such political novices. Telling themselves nice stories to soothe themselves.

    • @TheLucanicLord
      @TheLucanicLord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More money for being born than most people earn in a lifetime means they don't suffer the consequences.

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nick Clegg is the politician I have most despised in my lifetime. Seduced by the prospect of power he was a disastrous Tory austerity enabler who threw away the prospects and the influence of third party politics for a generation.

  • @duckbizniz663
    @duckbizniz663 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    David Cameron felt he could not be the Prime Minister after what he said and did during his remain in the EU campaign. He believed that staying in the EU was the best option for the UK, and he could not honestly lead England out of the EU. Michael Gove said that he felt David Cameron should stay as Prime Minister and lead England out of the EU. Michael Gove said that doing what the country wanted was beyond himself or David Cameron, and David Cameron should set aside his beliefs and lead England out of the EU. I guess that is the problem. Michael Gove feel it is possible for someone to do something that they believe will lead their country's ruin. Can David Cameron do his best to accomplish something that he believes would ruin his own country? Is Michael Gove's expectation honest or is Michael Gove just exaggerating or lying? Theresa May was an EU remainer. Theresa May was the Prime Minister and she tried to lead England out of the EU. What did the 3 Brexiteers do? Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, and Jacob Rees-Mogg among other Brexiteering Tories voted against Theresa May's Deals. Eventually they forced Theresa May to resign. Boris Johnson was chosen by the Brexiteering Tories to be Prime Minister. Did David Cameron foresee the power grab that was happening. Michael Gove's words sounds honorable. Let us put aside our differences for King and Country. By the way we will do everything we can to block Prime Minister May's Brexit Deals, and replace her with one of our own. Macbeth is live and well in Tory politics.

    • @Sonsequence
      @Sonsequence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cameron was right to resign for the same reason May stood no chance of getting a deal her party would accept. Only a true believer or a convincing idiot bullhorn could be that standard bearer

  • @w.urlitzer1869
    @w.urlitzer1869 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    and now he s back oh dear

  • @idiotsloveboxes
    @idiotsloveboxes ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m glad to hear some of these reflective & behind the scenes discussions, but if the purpose of this production was to make us feel pity & sympathy for David Cameron, it certainly did not.

  • @stuarturquhart9363
    @stuarturquhart9363 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well done Cameron - look at the mess you have left us with. Migration was a mess then and is still a mess now. 13 years of these a Tory Gov, when will people learn

    • @rayc9539
      @rayc9539 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mate, the tories lack compassion. Don't ever expect them to consider sentiments of the ordinary public.

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Austerity when inflation and world bank rates were on the floor, and then near tripled the national debt. That worked well, didn't it not? And Brexit was all about Tory Party survival and avoiding tax dodging investigations.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Labour clowns were proven wrong on the economy once again, during The Cameron Years. They said that the mild cuts in spending Cameron enacted would crater the economy. They didn't, and 2 million new jobs were added under his premiership. Digging out from the Labour Recession.

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why does it start in 2015?

    • @amsmith29
      @amsmith29 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it's the best bit

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@philstabler6650 Cameron's premiership began in 2010.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@johnnotrealname8168 Episode 1 deals with Brexit. Further episodes deal with the rest of his career. They started at 2015 because Brexit is the disaster which ended his prime ministerial career.

  • @Dic-yy1rj
    @Dic-yy1rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jesus watching this you wouldn’t think Cameron and Osborne were right about the cost of Brexit. Johnson and Co should be in jail

    • @ClickChase
      @ClickChase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You do remember we had a pandemic don't you?

    • @smdutton
      @smdutton ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClickChaseseriously…?! Good god.

  • @user-gd1yg6le1h
    @user-gd1yg6le1h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes bad years

  • @rastrats
    @rastrats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Trump has come and gone, but on this side of the Atlantic, Brexit holds as a permanent reminder of a turbulent decade for the Anglosphere.

    • @samhailess
      @samhailess ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, what a crazy decade. The political landscapes from 2010 to 2020 are almost unrecognisable from each other. After such a decade of iconoclasm and erosion of public institutions I'm not really sure which direction the wind of change will take politics. One thing's for sure, we're mostly a lot worse off now.

  • @EdutainmentSeeker
    @EdutainmentSeeker ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Calling out backbenchers who, under the guise of principles, were essentially baying for office could have been achieved by proposing a concord. To prove you aren’t just looking to skim the cream off the European fight but unprepared for any of the accountability or risks, sign this backbenchers - “We will do the referendum. If public chooses to stay, you will resign from politics.”

    • @tomj8271
      @tomj8271 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they may ask for the same in return “if the public chooses to leave you must resign from office”

    • @EdutainmentSeeker
      @EdutainmentSeeker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomj8271 Which they did

    • @tomj8271
      @tomj8271 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdutainmentSeeker I agree but Theresa May stayed and she was remain

  • @johnjudd2183
    @johnjudd2183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And demons were unleashed, and let loose on the country and there they still wreak havoc to this day…

  • @adamgrimsley2900
    @adamgrimsley2900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A terrible government

  • @philipvjones397
    @philipvjones397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It says a lot about the state this country is in that cameron isn;t even the worst pm of the last 13 years; never mind history.

  • @alistairrobinson3865
    @alistairrobinson3865 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with Danny Dyer

  • @vojo5
    @vojo5 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow

  • @tedm6894
    @tedm6894 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comparing this to the Blair/Brown one is so fucking depressing. This lot have absolutely no vision. They're all trying to defend their actions.

  • @butcherax
    @butcherax หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He resigns at the end of this... what's episode 2? XD

  • @KischteBier
    @KischteBier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Listen to them - they are „full of regret“ for letting people have a say on anything. They will make sure to not let this happen ever again.

    • @adama-k2710
      @adama-k2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not really panning out well so far

    • @mmlas8683
      @mmlas8683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at the absolute state of the country now. Can’t blame anyone for thinking that.

    • @tld7195
      @tld7195 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's because most leave voters were/are clueless! You don't ask ordinary people to decide on complex political questions! especially when they are provoked by the likes of Froggage

  • @garryharriman7349
    @garryharriman7349 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Conservative Party were and still are in disarray and irrevocably dysfunctional and at war with itself. The start of this political impasse probably originated from the ousting of Thatcher which was also directly linked to the issue of Europe! No doubt immigrants will always bear the brunt of blame due to economic discomfort and its impact on the populace which no doubt, for the average man on the street, makes up the vast amount of the uniformed public. People forget one of the main triggers for that discomfort and austerity.... the bail out of the unregulated financial institutions! As for the very real migrant crisis, as mirrored in the US, regional wars instigated by the west, particularly in Libia, may also be a factor for the uncontrollable numbers of very desperate people seeking a better life.

    • @azazelssprachen
      @azazelssprachen หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great comment, I agree

  • @derekwhyle1884
    @derekwhyle1884 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Clegg was useless. Osborne and Cameron screwed up and he said sod all.

  • @BlyatimirPootin
    @BlyatimirPootin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God the Cameron years were shit. They're even worse now.

  • @johnchristmas7522
    @johnchristmas7522 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like a lot of Tories, full of pomp and bluster but totally brainless and now , we as a country are suffering horrendously. They need to excommunicated from politics for ever.

  • @roadrunner4449
    @roadrunner4449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are episodes 1 and 2 the wrong way about? Feels like they are

  • @markalexwhite
    @markalexwhite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Howz that oul Brexit experiment going for you in 2023 UK?! ;-)

  • @clockwork2299
    @clockwork2299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the Tories got in with the help of Nick Clegg it was clear to me that the students union was in government. I was not wrong.

  • @WildOwlFilms
    @WildOwlFilms 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I blame Shaun Woodward, the former NI minister and St Helens MP. Before he became MP for St Helens he was of course Conservative MP for Witney in Oxfordshire. If he had never defected from Conservative to Labour, from Witney to St Helens, David Cameron would have never become an MP at the point he did and its unlikely would have never become PM. He wouldnt have been an MP for long enough to have had the experience and credibility to run as Conservative Party leader.

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *WHERE IS THA GEEZA?!*

  • @napoleonsdauphin
    @napoleonsdauphin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the real story behind Cameron and Gove, anyway?

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming soon - The Sunak Getting Drenched in the Rain Years from the BBC. 😉

  • @jocktigernuts680
    @jocktigernuts680 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole lot of them display an air of arrogant; lying entitlement, Clegg being close to the top of the pile🥶

  • @duckbizniz663
    @duckbizniz663 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The EU project was something that Great Britain, from PM Thatcher to the average working class bloke, never accepted. The EU single market and EU customs union mean that member states are going to optimize trade, and yes make money. But among the most developed, most industrialized, most "western civilization" STATES, their mission is to lead the rest of Europe into the modern world. John Major (when he was working for PM Thatcher) said that Great Britain wanted to be in the EU (single market and customs union) but not use the Euro as currency. John Major has the right to take this position. He felt that the southern European states were "not on par" economically speaking with the developed countries, i.e. Germany, England, & France (the big 3). John Major's concern is absolutely true. Southern European states were not as developed and not as stable as the big 3. After the fall of Soviet Union, the Eastern European Communist Bloc states would add even less developed and less stable states to the EU. Since the fall of the Roman Empire in the 5 century AD European states has been evolving. Only a handful of European states developed representative government and advanced industries. They are England, France, Germany, Netherland, Belgium, ... But only England, France, and Germany are populous enough to become European super powers. As a result, in a unified European alliance the big 3 must lead the other European countries to "be on par." What do I mean. This is illustrated by the Greek Crisis and how Chancellor Merkel and Germany imposed austerity on a fiscally irresponsible Greek government. The EU would bail out Greece from their financial crisis, but the Greek government cannot spend more money than they make (taxes). By using the same currency (Euro) an irresponsible European state can ruin the value of the Euro for all of its member states. So the most developed EU countries (the big 3) must guide the "not on par" states toward a "on par" state. The European countries on the continent have suffered through many wars. The stronger, more developed countries have swallowed up smaller, weaker, and less developed countries. France and Germany have been at the center of such conflicts, and they want to prevent another conflict. This means sharing the risk of a common currency (Euro) and regulating irresponsible practices among member states to keep the Euro safe for all Europeans. In reality, the EU member states have already allowed England to avoid the risk of a common currency and to enjoy the benefit of the single market access. However, most people of Great Britain feel they are getting a bad deal from the other European countries. If England was Kosovo I would understand their position. But England is not Kosovo. England is Germany or France. England needs to lead the "not on par" European countries. A developed and stable Europe is good for England.

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      The Brexiteers would prefer to be the 51st State than leaders of Europe, that is their warped view of patriotism.

  • @matthewshamas2803
    @matthewshamas2803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worst PM since Chamberlain. Apart from his successors.

  • @wrestlingp
    @wrestlingp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I tried to watch this but I cannot stomach even looking at the man, the damage he did to the country in pursuit of his own legacy on both the domestic and international stage will continue to be felt by the people of our country for years to come and the way he ran away was unforgivable.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boohoo, you left a group of nations that you were part of for a while. You can get back in someday, or live fine like Norway and other European nations do. Not the end of the world either way.........and the economy bounced back during his tenure, in complete refutation of lefty arguments that his mild cuts in spending would cause a huge recession. More new jobs than the rest of the EU combined, like he said. For a while.

  • @flachi32
    @flachi32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EU membership was always a boil to lance but appointing Theresa May was the party's missed opportunity.

  • @itsnotmyjob
    @itsnotmyjob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is episode 3?

  • @dianebonner8827
    @dianebonner8827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A nother turn coat

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...What rackches..room...oh plan to sold something...

  • @DFandV
    @DFandV ปีที่แล้ว +6

    EU shot themselves in the foot, and it was their stance that ultimately, the UK left the EU.

  • @emiratiindian6706
    @emiratiindian6706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wtf does it mean by zarkosy saying that eu didn't give much to britain. uk had the maximum no. of opt outs any member state could ever get.

  • @pacifistidentitarian549
    @pacifistidentitarian549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant barrage the Farrage

  • @angied8919
    @angied8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really miss smart handsome David Cameron especially when you see what we've got now

    • @jgsh8062
      @jgsh8062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SMART AND HANDSOME 💀☠

    • @williamgannaway8183
      @williamgannaway8183 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Looks like Data from Star Trek, superimposed onto a ham.

    • @jamesoneill6712
      @jamesoneill6712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@williamgannaway8183He always reminds me of an egg with a face painted on it ☺️

    • @lutherblissett9070
      @lutherblissett9070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You make a good case against women's suffrage.

  • @oldschoolcockneylover8138
    @oldschoolcockneylover8138 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Clegg and Osborne literally admitting they ok with staying in the EU despite democratic objection

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      Democratic? You traitors were backed to the hilt by Putin.

    • @selaucurry6058
      @selaucurry6058 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That was their personal view.I don't see whats wrong with that

    • @astalagriotte
      @astalagriotte 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Referenda in the UK aren’t binding. Parliament, not the people, is sovereign.

    • @oldschoolcockneylover8138
      @oldschoolcockneylover8138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@astalagriotte and all those who obstinately tried to scupper Brexit were voted out lol

  • @lw1zfog
    @lw1zfog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HSBC, the Opium Wars, Ewan Cameron banker, The City of London Crown Corporation, David Cameron PM, the Panama Papers

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...Everything gotta change...
    Migrant gotta know their position.....

  • @EnteresanJEA
    @EnteresanJEA 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    48:04 This is pure derogatoriness at its finest. Turkey did not have so many immigrants as it has now. And this ad shows 88.7 million people becoming part of the EU, ok, but trying to say that the citizens or these countries will affect public services.
    This is a gaff. The 88.7 million will not move to the UK, a tiny 90,000 maybe but nothing more from the combination of potential nations to join the EU on the ad.

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...Still remember... your papa send you to... school (Boris)

  • @conordaly6975
    @conordaly6975 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cameron did a lot wrong but he’s certainly not to blame for the entire mess. A good prime minister listens to his people, and he was correct to call the referendum. He was strongly advising the people to remain in the EU as he believed it was best, and sadly not enough people agreed. He could have kept fighting after the result, but he was probably right to step down and give someone else a go, someone who had a passion for a post-EU Britain. As I said Cameron is definitely not perfect, and he’s not going to go down as a fantastic prime minister, but he gets a lot of unnecessary hate when he’s not entirely to blame for the current state of the country.

  • @thedukeofswellington1827
    @thedukeofswellington1827 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nick Clegg sold his seat and the entire party just to get to be "junior PM" for 5 years 🤣

    • @michaelmccomb2594
      @michaelmccomb2594 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a question of, what else would he do?

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      And PR.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, he joined the government, which was the most sensible option. And of course when you come in 3rd in an election, you don't get to make most of the decisions. In a coalition.

  • @user-oc7it1il5y
    @user-oc7it1il5y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chubby brown I would pay to see this lot no way

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Tories or they call something else...they have some real good biz...but they depends on other...

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ..That wine glass...do you think...is safe to drink... expensive wine at that time...big laugh...big smile just same as clown 🤡...(Sweetie time).... victory... their words at that time give me an answer...
    They just small fly....

  • @lesthompson5907
    @lesthompson5907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i watch this & relies Cameron still dose not get it , we cant control out borders & our own people haven got the job's to keep them off the unemployment list. we cud not get the EU to bend our way So we must drive the leave vote & deliver the change we in the UK required Had that been the case i suspect it would have been A remain result . Bu after 45 year it was clear we will not get what we would not be able to repeal of law. after 45 years in the EU we discovered it could not Get reformed.

  • @PJV1990
    @PJV1990 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I said it the moment it was clear that leave had won the referendum; Brexit would ultimately benefit the UK enormously however we'd have to go through a lengthy period of pain and hardship. I still believe that. Brexit will lead to long-term prosperity that far outweighs the benefits of EU membership eventually however we're still 2-3 years away. The trouble is that the public (and certain news organisations) want it all NOW. They want money, growth and success for themselves now. They don't want to sacrifice and struggle in the short term, even if that sacrifice means long term (multi-generational) prosperity. The public needs to understand that sometimes one has to go through hardship today to ensure tomorrow is plentiful.

    • @tonyblair5914
      @tonyblair5914 ปีที่แล้ว

      its always another two years away everybody is laughing at us but as you are somebody who has no idea what the EU is and how devastating leaving is allow me to give you a reality check , to keep this constructive and not a insult blood bath we are not better out the EU and never will be, you haven't stated facts so here is some number 1- nobody new how to carry out Brexit from the start, you are still believing this delusion that we are better out even though Boris Johnson lied like the cunt he is and went against his own beliefs of staying in the EU because he wanted to benefit his career , number 2 Nigel Farage himself said he wouldn't voted for leave if he hadn't have anything to do with being the driving force of leave as he said the promises from Boris and Michael were unrealistic and were misleading , number 3 why did we join the EU again??? oh wait we were broke and because the Tories closed all the steel works and industries especially in the north of England so we are depended on foreign importing then out sourcing, number 4 WE ARE NOT AMERICA AND THE CURRENT GOVERMENT WITCH ARE APPRENTLY "PRO LEAVE TO THE CORE" HAVE JUST SIGNED A DEAL TO KEEP A PART OF THE UK IN EUROPE, number 5 leaving Europe means we are weaker and we are now a bitch to America as well the EU as we don't have as i have stated industries that are not European and America see us only as a backdoor way into Europe as the European union is a rival to America from a business and power prospective, Kemi Bedanoche came out recently saying there is " strength in numbers" she was Pro leave and yet we have just signed a deal with Australia Canada New Zealand with Australian farmers benefiting with British farmer losing out because they are unable to import or trade with the Eu and Austrian farmers can import cheaper meet witch means British farmers are losing out due to prices having to go up because of the cost exporting and all other costs, lastly if you think leaving is a good idea your are either racist or just fucking stupid you decide what you are

    • @robertfawcett332
      @robertfawcett332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn’t put it better myself! Glad I’m not the only one who’s ready for the long haul.

    • @itechmaroc1
      @itechmaroc1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Explain in economic terms "not just in a subjective manner" how will GB be better long term out of the EU than in the EU

    • @selaucurry6058
      @selaucurry6058 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lad, or miss or whatever : It's been bloody 7 years(almost 8 now) we've been waiting for the so-called Brexit dividends ! What the hell more time do you need ? The facts are just there,the UK is worse off outside the EU than it would've been inside and more time is going to add nothing than more regret to the whole mess those desilusions created. . .

    • @lutherblissett9070
      @lutherblissett9070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      two more weeks

  • @jontydenton1201
    @jontydenton1201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clegg played the lapdog and got what exactly . PR? Nah… does he ever sleep at night?

  • @mzo.7333
    @mzo.7333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hold nick clegg responsible. He was the biggest traitor

  • @Bishopaaronbeachy
    @Bishopaaronbeachy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    George Osborn 🙄🙄

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're in love?

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Born middle-aged.

  • @folasadegiwa6305
    @folasadegiwa6305 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    by abiiouse radio by form milemu agin black ?

  • @willrelf1377
    @willrelf1377 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst Prime Minister ever

  • @khairulnaeim756
    @khairulnaeim756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fear what... migrant thing...

  • @leeshepherd6512
    @leeshepherd6512 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst PM we ever had.

    • @scuffedreekid9051
      @scuffedreekid9051 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You think he’s better than truss?

    • @leeshepherd6512
      @leeshepherd6512 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@scuffedreekid9051 his BS led directly to that monstrosity.

  • @JWParkerPhDDDiv
    @JWParkerPhDDDiv ปีที่แล้ว +6

    sorry David but as soon as the lib-dems left you indeed did move further right even if you don't want to admit it.

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cameron just accepted Blair's agenda - which in fairness, Michael Howard had done beforehand. That was a big mistake. The Tories weren't going to undo the disastrous changes that Blair made to this country's institutions.
    Ironically as well - despite Cameron supposedly being a Eurosceptic and knowing of the damage that the ERM did, he never the less wanted the UK to still be in the EU - he must of realised that staying in was going to lead to continued integration.

    • @fbdjwjflac
      @fbdjwjflac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What were the disastrous changes that Blair made? Genuinely interested, as I was not old enough to remember back then

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fbdjwjflac The changes to the major institutions of the UK : the Supreme Court taking over from the House of Lords as the highest court in the land, devolution(which in my opinion was done to aid independence rather than prevent it), the common purpose training used to infiltrate all the big companies and organisations of the UK, higher education utterly destroyed because it lost all meaning if everyone went and devalues any degree given now, mass immigration used to keep the UK a low wage economy and placing enormous pressure on the UK's infrastructure.

  • @mitchio86
    @mitchio86 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    pro-EU people still moan about brexit but way bigger things have happened since then - covid and ukraine war for example

  • @georgeiii2998
    @georgeiii2998 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:13

  • @jamesbyrne9312
    @jamesbyrne9312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The EU should have been less arrogant. If they wanted a union for peace and prosperity why did they provoke the UK?

    • @marksc111
      @marksc111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They didn't. The UK was behaving like a spoiled toddler.

    • @jamesbyrne9312
      @jamesbyrne9312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marksc111 two sides to the story I feel

  • @Eric_200
    @Eric_200 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nick Clegg is literally animated sewage.

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the word is figurative.

    • @Eric_200
      @Eric_200 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your smugness is however not figurative. It is literal.

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eric_200 You are literally learning basic English. Well done.

    • @narcher91
      @narcher91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PNETriffid No I’d say he’s literally animated sewage because I know what hyperbole is. 😊

    • @PNETriffid
      @PNETriffid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@narcher91 OH dear Nick you clearly don't understand what hyporbole means. A hypobolic sentence would be, 'Nick Clegg is animated sewage'. The addition of the misused word 'literally' removes all the hyperbole from the sentence. Hope that helps.

  • @willgreig8912
    @willgreig8912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cameron total failure

  • @KnowledgeVariable
    @KnowledgeVariable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    praise the illuminati

  • @davidpascoe5842
    @davidpascoe5842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was right result in the end. We simply couldn’t remain within the EU. They want more and more of citizens within the EU. I would vote leave again

  • @Bishopaaronbeachy
    @Bishopaaronbeachy ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick Clegg has no idea how the real world works